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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks.

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Speaker 2: EDB players with a connection to football on the side

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Speaker 3: Now William's back onto the right for the slender goal.

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Speaker 2: David Williams even the starting lineup for the first time

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Speaker 2: in a while and he retains the faith shown by

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Speaker 2: Mike rw Dan. David Williams played a league football for

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Speaker 2: Queensland Raw as a seventeen year old, then had time

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Speaker 2: with North Queensland Fury, Melbourne City, Wellington Phoenix and Perth Glory,

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Speaker 2: racking up two hundred and twenty eight A league matches,

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Speaker 2: scoring fifty one goals. Also had time playing in Denmark,

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Speaker 2: Hungary and India. He also played under seventeen, under twenty

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Speaker 2: and under twenty three football for Australia and earned two

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Speaker 2: full soccero's caps. He announced this week he'll be leaving

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Speaker 2: Perth Glory, so I wanted to get him on the

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Speaker 2: air to reflect really on his time as a Phoenix player.

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Speaker 2: He's with us. David Williams, thanks for joining us, mate,

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Speaker 2: great to have you on the show. You were here

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Speaker 2: in Wellington in twenty eighteen nineteen, so tell us about

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Speaker 2: the five or six years since that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me Piney. That was you can

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Speaker 4: come up for a breath of air. Now, Okay, Look,

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Speaker 4: I was unfortunate I was injured and didn't make the

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Speaker 4: double header in New Zealand versus Auckland. Then the trip

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Speaker 4: been my time to come back to Wellington and see

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Speaker 3: For you know, potentially one of the last times.

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Speaker 4: But look, it's one of those journeys that I've really

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Speaker 4: really enjoyed. And to this day, my wife and I

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Speaker 4: still speak about my time in Wellington. We speak about,

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Speaker 4: you know, we're having our first boy who was living

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Speaker 4: there with us, and you know, things pop up on

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Speaker 4: anniversaries and things like that on our phone, you know,

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Speaker 4: and it's him and Wellington riding the bus to daycare

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Speaker 4: my time in Wellington and New Zealand and yeah, long

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Speaker 4: career to think about as well.

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Speaker 2: Twitty eighteen nineteen was the season you spent with Wellington Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: Mark Rudin was the coach. How did he tempt you

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Speaker 2: to the Phoenix.

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Speaker 3: I think it was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just from memory, it was just a conversation on

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Speaker 4: the phone. He was he was something that kind of

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Speaker 4: tested me. I think he was playing a few mind

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Speaker 4: of enticed me a little bit to.

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Speaker 3: Kind of prove him, prove him wrong. But you know,

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Speaker 3: it was just an opportunity that you know, it was

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Speaker 4: I've always loved traveling and experienced different parts of the world,

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Speaker 4: and throughout my career, you know, I've chosen a few

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Speaker 4: able to travel. And if you can do that and

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Speaker 4: for visas and all this different stuff, you know, that's

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I jumped at the opportunity and had a great,

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Speaker 3: Through that season, even though we didn't win anything.

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Speaker 4: I felt like the club was on and the team

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Speaker 3: A part of me thinks that looking back on it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you arrived off the back of the previous season

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Speaker 2: Spoon and I know there was some scars around the

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Speaker 2: fan base. Were there any internal scars wellow when you arrived.

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Speaker 2: Did you arrive into a playing group that was still

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: I think the recruitment was pretty good in terms of

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Speaker 3: I loved the dressing room. We had a great dressing room.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was Andrew Duranty there, there was Steven Taylor,

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Speaker 3: Who has gone on to bigger and better things, so

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Speaker 4: And that's the best thing about being a player who

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Speaker 4: You know, the beauty about signing new players about that

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Speaker 4: getting on. So yeah, I think that set up our

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Speaker 2: Well, you made the top six, which hadn't been done

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Speaker 2: was it obvious though to you, even as youngsters that

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Speaker 2: they had a bit about them, Libby and sarp Reed.

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Speaker 4: The thing with those two is they got opportunities regularly

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Speaker 3: They were they were backed.

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Speaker 4: By Mark and it just made it you know, easy

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Speaker 4: Important of where they're allocated on the field. With some experience,

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Speaker 3: It matched up really well.

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Speaker 4: So it was exciting and those players, you know, local well,

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Speaker 4: Libby was local, being from Wellington and sarpri Obviously I'm

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Speaker 4: so that was inspiring for others who have also continued

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Speaker 2: So the season just before Christmas, I remember this game

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Speaker 2: You were really prolific, you know, eleven and all that season,

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Speaker 4: I just think I've got a lot of confidence from

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Speaker 4: Mark as a coach as well. He would test me,

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Speaker 4: high standard. It was you know, it was ruthless at times,

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Speaker 3: But I really do feel like I was part of

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Speaker 3: We were really really fit, I felt.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, with the likes of playing with Roy upfront

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got nineteen goals that season. I checked the

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Speaker 4: I think it was just we were just simple players really,

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Speaker 4: Like I was never one to dribble and do step

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Speaker 3: Roy wasn't really either.

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Speaker 4: He might just do one to create a yard to

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Speaker 4: which was our pace and our shot and football is simple.

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Speaker 4: I think some people over complicated sometimes and I think

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Speaker 3: We worked hard defensively, which.

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Speaker 4: Created our opportunities, and I think that's you know, Roy's

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Speaker 4: And that's why he's still playing because of the way

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he's close to forty three years

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Speaker 3: But he's.

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Speaker 4: Still playing over in India, not at the IL level,

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Speaker 4: but he's still thereabouts. So I think the simplicity of

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Speaker 4: our football was probably a reason why we connected so well.

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Speaker 4: We were very very similar players, but we also had

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Speaker 4: just a natural connection, and that's what some clubs can

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Speaker 4: naturally and luckily get sometimes if players can just naturally connect.

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Speaker 4: We were friends off the field, you know, we were

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Speaker 2: Well, one of your more memorable Knights didn't feature him.

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Speaker 2: He had been sent off the previous game against Western

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Speaker 2: Sydney back end of March around twenty three. Newcastle come

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Speaker 2: That goal, well, where is that? Where does that set

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Speaker 2: in amongst all of the goals that you think.

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Speaker 4: I think that would be my number one goal I've

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Speaker 4: a good atmosphere as well. I've scored some great goals

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Speaker 4: in might I say better atmospheres.

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Speaker 3: But you know in a Melbourne.

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Speaker 4: Derby when I was Melbourne Heart, this Melbourne victory that

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Speaker 4: when it was Eddie had stadium before.

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Speaker 3: I think it's now Marvel potentially, I can't remember.

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Speaker 4: What it might be called now, but you know when

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Speaker 4: we used to sell out that that game, it was

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Speaker 4: huge as well, So that that goal for me was

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Speaker 4: quite important being outside the box. And I even remember

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Speaker 4: Holy Sale he said he was on the bench and

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Speaker 4: before I even hit it, he goes that this is

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Speaker 4: going to be a goal like a few minutes before,

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Speaker 4: because he had a feeling. Goes, there's no way a

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Speaker 4: strikers on two goals and going to pass it to someone,

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Speaker 4: and that was his basis of his call, and he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's it's going in. So you know all he's got

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Speaker 4: some good instincts about him too, which is pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, there was one goal. Actually I.

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Speaker 4: Can't actually find vision for it because it was so

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Speaker 4: long ago as North Queensland, Fury Verse, Gold Coast and

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Speaker 4: it was in the Gold Coast as well, so I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure if cameras were even around that man.

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Speaker 3: I definitely don't think it was HD.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, look, if there was any vision of a

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Speaker 4: goal I scored at skilled Stadium all those years ago,

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Speaker 4: that was also up there for me.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Look, there was a I scored a really good header

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Speaker 4: to get us into the Grand Final one year, which is.

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Speaker 3: Actually against Eric.

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Speaker 4: Pardalou's team Bengaloo which he doesn't like me bringing that

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Speaker 4: up every time I see him or.

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Speaker 3: Speak to him.

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Speaker 4: Look, there are good goals, but I think in terms

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Speaker 4: of you've got to put atmosphere moments, what the order

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Speaker 4: of the goal? I think, yeah, that that has to

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Speaker 4: take the cake. The Phoenix against Newcastle Jets.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff. Well, you had a season here six years ago.

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Speaker 2: Well and it's still fondly remembered by Yellow Fever and

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Speaker 2: by everybody associated with a football club. It's been great

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Speaker 2: to get the chance to catch up. Made all the

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Speaker 2: best for the decision making your head and no doubt

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Speaker 2: we'll see you around the football traps in the in

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Speaker 2: the months and years to come.

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Speaker 4: No thanks, enjoyed my time and look forward to getting

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Speaker 4: back there one day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look forward to seeing you David. Thanks. Indeed, David

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Speaker 2: William's there. Former Phoenix player's left Perth Glory and is

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Speaker 2: now looking for his next football club. We wait to

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Speaker 2: see where he turns up.

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