1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: an early edition with ex Pole insulation, keeping Kiwi Holmes 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: warm and try this winter news talk said, be. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Welcome morning to you, and welcome to the end of 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: the week. Coming up for the next jour our thirty 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: thousand New Zealanders pack up shop and to bunk to Australia. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: So how bad are these numbers? We'll have asb economists 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: Mark Smith and ten. The second test looms between France 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: and the All Blacks. Jason Pine is getting up early 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: for us. He'll be here in fifteen minutes time. The 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: fortieth anniversary of the Rainbow Warriors sinking, and I'll tell 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: you where I was that Faithful minds and anti scam 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: alliances and the banning of crypto ATMs. We're talking banking 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: with Roger Beaumont from the Banking Association. Just before six. 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: There are weather warnings across New Zealand and a state 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 2: of emergency for Nelson Tasman, so we'll keep you informed 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: as the day goes on. We'll have correspondents from around 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: New Zealand and around the world. Vincent mcavenni from the 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: UK and you can have your say by giving us 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: a text ninety two ninety two is the text number 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: a small town supplies, or you can email me Dickens 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: at Newstalk ZTB dot co dot NZ. It is eight 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: after five. 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: The agenda. 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: It's Friday, the eleventh of July. A. UK Prime Minister 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: kier Stammer and French President Emmanuel Macron have unveiled a 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: joint deal on tackling migrants crossing the Channel on small boats. 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: Migrants arriving by a small boat will be detained and 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: returned to France in short order, in exchange for every 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: return a different individual. We're allowed to come here via 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: y safe route, controlled and legal, subject to strict security checks, 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: and only open to those who have not tried to 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: enter the UK illegally. 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: Now to the Middle East and ten crew members have 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: been rescued and at least three others killed after a 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: cargo ship was attacked by Yemen's booties and then sunk 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: in the Red Sea. The Greek operated ship was carrying 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: twenty five crew when it was significantly damaged by rocket 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: propelled grenades fired from small boats. The aram Becked futies 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: say they were heading to Israel. 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: Those crew who have been captured by the Huthies. Now 42 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: might be being used by the Huthis as a kind 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: of leverage tactic from their side to put pressure on 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: the ongoing ceasefy negotiations. 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: The Huthis are saying that their attacks on shipping and. 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: Israel did out of solidarity with the. 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Palestinians in order to see an end to the war 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: in Gaza. 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Enter the Russian Ukraine War. Mak Rubio's been meeting with 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: his Russian counterpart, Sergey Levrov in Kuala Lumpur. There he 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: expressed the United States frustration. 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 5: We understand that these things take time and patience, but 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 5: obviously we're also frustrated that more progress has not been made. 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 5: And hopefully we based on today and in the days 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 5: to come, we'll have more clarity about what exactly actually 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 5: the Russian position and priorities are in this regard and 57 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 5: can begin to make some progress. But it's you know, 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 5: it's been difficult, and it's nine after. 59 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: Five on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and X Full Insulation Keeping Kiwi Holmes 61 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: warm and dry. This winter news talks at be. 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: So the debate on the expansion of our largest gold 63 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: mine has centered on lizards, which made for some good copy, 64 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: but not on the real subject, which is how much 65 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: gold is actually in there. As of twenty twenty five, 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: the McCrae's gold mine in Otago, which is New Zealand's 67 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: largest active gold mine, has produced about one point eight 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: million ounces of gold since it opened in nineteen ninety. 69 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: The average amount of gold gets is one point six 70 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: grams per metric ton. The mine process is more than 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: five million tons of or per year and it produces 72 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: about five point seven tons of gold in that year. Now, 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: that is an all a lot of rock that got 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: to dig through to find a bit of gold. And 75 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: in fact, compared to the rest of the world, this 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: is a pretty low yield and it's a good enough 77 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: business for mccraze. But to be honest, it's no bonanza 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: for New Zealand. There are jobs, yes, but it's not 79 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: a bonanza. And this is where I have a bit 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: of a problem. Spooking mining makes for good politics for 81 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: Shane Jones, but it's not the gold rush that he 82 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: likes to make out, and it's the same for oil 83 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: and gas. Prior to the moratorium on expiration, New Zealand 84 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: had been striking out every time drills went into the ground, 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: and once it stopped, opponents of the Greenies who said 86 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: it was crippling the country had a free hit and 87 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: no one ever held them to account and wondered whether 88 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: they were letting hope trump reality. There is no real 89 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: proof that we are sitting on a literal gold mine. 90 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: In fact, the story is one of a lot of 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: money thrown at low yields. So look, I'm not against oil, 92 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: gas and gold exploration per se. I'm not on the 93 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: lizard side. However, I'm not sure that it is the 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: grand economic revolution that Shane Jones believed. But hey, i'll 95 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: tell you what, it has a very rich yield in 96 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: terms of votes. 97 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: Said be. 98 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: My youngest boy left for Australia a month ago. He'd 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 2: been working in New Zealand. He'd been working at the Herald. 100 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: Actually he'd been here for two years and then he 101 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: just went on twenty six I want to go to 102 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: a bigger place, and so he's gone to Melbourne. Thirty 103 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: thousand New Zealand has left the country for Australia last year. Now, 104 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: Ben would have left anyway even if we were in 105 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: great times. But we're not in great times. So this 106 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: number thirty thousand, is it what often happens? Or is 107 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: this a standout? It's certainly the worst figures in ten years. 108 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 2: And what does it mean for our economy? Mark Smith 109 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: is the ASB senior economist and he's joining me. Next 110 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: news talks are B. It's twelve after five. 111 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with ex bowl insulation keeping 112 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: Kiwi homes warm and try this winter news talks at B. 113 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: We had another poll out yesterday. Winston's happy. But it 114 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: shows both our leaders. This is Hipkins and Laxon. They 115 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: both had favorability ratings under twenty percent and both National 116 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: and Labour is stuck on thirty percent. So does this 117 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: suggest that our two major parties are a bit useless 118 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: and our two leaders are a bit useless? What do 119 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: you think? You can text me on ninety two ninety 120 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: two and I have some thoughts on this very shortly. 121 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: It is five point fifteen, so just under thirty thousand 122 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: New Zealand has left the country for Australia last year. 123 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: This marks the highest level of emigration across the Ditch 124 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: since twenty twelve, highest in a decade. Mark Smith has 125 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: got up early for us this morning, the senior economist 126 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: at ASP. Good morning to you, Mark, Good morning. Are 127 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: these bad numbers or is this the normal outflow of 128 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: Kiwi's as part of our great diaspora. 129 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 7: No, this figures are pretty bleak credit you think about it. Yeah, 130 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 7: the normal sort of average finet migration is about a 131 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 7: thirty thousand person inflow. We're currently running about fifteen thousand, 132 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 7: so about half of usual. What we've seen over the 133 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 7: last few years has been a shit up slow down 134 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 7: and the number of people coming in, and we've also 135 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 7: seen record numbers of people leaving. So it's really a 136 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 7: reflection I suppose of how weak New zealm economy is. 137 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: I was about to say, so we've got less people 138 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: coming in and more people going out, So what does 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: that say to you? 140 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very much a reflection of where we are 141 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 7: at the moment. I mean comparing with Australia about I 142 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 7: suppose the partures at the moment are at a record high, 143 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 7: and of that we've got about seventy thousand here we 144 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 7: are going offshore and probably about seventy percent of going 145 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 7: to Australia. So if you compare Australia, the unemprovment rate 146 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 7: has been lower about four percent of the last twelve months. 147 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 7: Ours is five percent and climbing, And that's really a 148 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 7: reflection of where we are at the moment. 149 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: But Australia is a bit of a basketcase as well. 150 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: Is it the Elderado? Is it the great savior of people? 151 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: If they went over there, are they going to be 152 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: any better. 153 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 7: Comparatively? Probably here, And that's probably the sad reality of 154 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 7: where we are at the moment. But yeah, sure Australia 155 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 7: is not the land of milk and honey for everyone, 156 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 7: but things are comparably stronger over there, and people are 157 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 7: voting with your seat, all. 158 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: Right, So how does this affect the economy? If more 159 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: people are going and that means there's people are out 160 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: there buying, it helps continue our moribund economy as it stands. 161 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, straight, So I think people are probably sort of 162 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 7: sort of struggling to realize why the New Zealand economy. 163 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 7: Consumer spending in the housing market is not really going 164 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 7: anywhere the lasted or twelve months, and this is really 165 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 7: probably one of the key outlists is really much slower 166 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 7: population growth. You think how they're viewing things will be. 167 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 7: You know, the economy is struggling to gain traction and 168 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 7: with few people coming in, what it's really going to 169 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 7: do is really constrained demand and reserve bank. The key 170 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 7: thing will be implacently precious demetract will be lower. All 171 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 7: that's equal, and if you will see the special path 172 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 7: rate continue to fall from there. 173 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: And it interesting me to think about what that does 174 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: to housing because we need less roofs overheads. 175 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 7: I yeah, that's right. You know, the housing market is 176 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 7: really a key catalyst very centris migration flows and a 177 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 7: housing market hasn't really gone in anywhere of the last 178 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 7: twelve months, and a key catalyst that would be very 179 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 7: very low numbers of lot of numbers of people coming 180 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 7: in and more people leaving. 181 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: And the only answer is to fix the economy. But 182 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: this current government's had eighteen months and they're not doing 183 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: that great a job at that. 184 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 7: Well, it takes a long time to ten things around. 185 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 7: So but to the moment, people are voiding with his 186 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 7: feet unfortunately. 187 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: Mark Smith, thank you for that depressing news on this 188 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: Friday morning. Come back though. We'll be fine soon enough. 189 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: All right, there's a big old test coming up this weekends, 190 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: and I think the biggest interest point is will the 191 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: all backs play better? It was a good test last weekend. 192 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 2: It was an enjoyable, entertaining test last weekend, but there 193 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: were just a few fumbles. I was thinking about it. 194 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: How in the second second half Ricolani spills the ball. 195 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: Then the French come back, this or a try and bomb. 196 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: Suddenly it's all on again. Can we do better? Have 197 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: we got a better team? We'll talk about this in 198 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: a few moments time with our sportscaster extraordin mayor Jason Pine. 199 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: Right here on news Talks. Heb it's five eighteen. 200 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 201 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: analysis earlier this year with Andrew Dickens and x full 202 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry this winter News Talks, 203 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: it'd be five. 204 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: Twenty two is the time. Here is the bloke who's 205 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: broadcasting from a shed this weekend. Jason Pine, Welcome to 206 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: the show. 207 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 8: Hello Andrew, good morning mate. 208 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: Has it got insulation? Is it a warm shed? 209 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 8: It's a very warm shed. It's a very hospitable shed. 210 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 8: Excuse me. Shed twenty two and downtown Wellington a great 211 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 8: place to broadcast a radio show. 212 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: From and of course a home test for you, so 213 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 2: you've got your own bed to sleep, and so you 214 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: should be in great form. Now let's look at the match. 215 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: Captain Scott Barrett out for the rest of the series 216 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: due to a calf injury. So how does this side 217 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: perform without Barrett and how much will he regret not 218 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: having these games? 219 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I think they'll be okay without him. I 220 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 8: mean it's always been a bit of a next man 221 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 8: up scenario for excuse me, for the All Blacks and 222 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 8: look Patrick two for loss who comes into the second row. 223 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 8: He's a pretty good replacement, rarely fifty test matches, he's 224 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 8: a experienced campaigner captain of the Blues. So look, I'm 225 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 8: not sure they'd lose a lot there. But when you 226 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 8: lose your skipper, that is a you know, that's a 227 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 8: little hurdle to get over. I just wonder how injured 228 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 8: Scott Barrett might actually be. I think that there's a 229 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 8: concern that this isn't going to be a short term 230 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 8: thing for Scott Barrett. He's going to miss this game 231 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 8: and next weekend. But there's just a little bit of 232 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 8: doubt out there about whether he might actually be out 233 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 8: for significantly longer than that. It's just a feeling you 234 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 8: get from the All Blacks when they talk about him 235 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 8: and say they're a little bit coy about exactly how 236 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 8: bad the injury is. So, look, he's out for this one. 237 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 8: Let's hope that he's going to be okay for the 238 00:11:58,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 8: Rugby Championship. 239 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: Let's be frank, the focus of our season is the 240 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: spring Box two games there and we want him back 241 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: for that. Caleb Clark gets a second chance. Now, what 242 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 2: does he have to do. 243 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 8: I think he has to be good in the air. 244 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 8: I think that's one thing that they weren't last week 245 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 8: in Duneda and the All Blacks they just found it 246 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 8: very difficult to diffuse France's aerial game. So I think 247 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 8: that's one thing that they'll definitely have to do tomorrow, 248 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 8: and Caleb Clark's a big part of that. He's probably 249 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 8: the All Blacks best winger in terms of diffusing the 250 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 8: high bomb. He'd want to get a try as well, Andrew. 251 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 8: He didn't get a single try in Super Rugby Caleb Clark, 252 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 8: which is so unusual for a winger. But yeah, look 253 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 8: he gets his opportunity. He is a good player and 254 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 8: let's hope that he can show that at Sky Stadium 255 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 8: tomorrow night. 256 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: And well, when the wingers don't get tries, I blame 257 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: the midfield, to be honest with you. 258 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 8: And that's a great point. It's a great point. And look, 259 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 8: we know who plays at center for the Blues, and 260 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 8: that's Rico Youani. He'll be out on the other wing 261 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 8: tomorrow night. So it's Billy who has the task at 262 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 8: center with Jordy Barrett inside him to provide those opportunities 263 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 8: for the wingers. It's a great point. So yeah, let's 264 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 8: hope they can provide the ammunition for the likes of 265 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 8: Clark and Yuannie and Will Jordan at fallback to score 266 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 8: some drives. 267 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: Actually, Rico has got a lot to prove as well. 268 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: If Billy's going to take over his role, which is 269 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: starting to look likely, he's got to make the wing 270 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: his home again. 271 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, isn't it funny that he's gone across the right 272 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 8: wing as well. I've always thought of Rico Yoani if 273 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 8: he is a winger, as a left winger with eleven 274 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 8: on his back. But look, I can't remember the last 275 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 8: time he played on the right wing. Our rugby editor 276 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 8: Elliott Smith told me yesterday. He reckons it's twenty nineteen, 277 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 8: which is an awfully long time ago. Look, I don't 278 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 8: know that there's a huge difference between playing on the 279 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 8: left wing and on the right wing. But you're right, 280 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 8: he's got to find a place. If Billy Propt is 281 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 8: going to be the center, then Reco has to play 282 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 8: well on the wing just to make sure he's still 283 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 8: in the mix. 284 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: Jason, enjoy your weekend working out of a shed, and 285 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: I look forward to your sideline comments. And of course 286 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: Elliot Smith will be doing the call, and it's right 287 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: here on news Talks here B It is five to twenty. 288 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: Four the early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 289 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: by News. 290 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 7: Talks at B. 291 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: New Talks a B is five twenty six. So another poll, 292 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: another rush of fevered opinion, and yet still so far 293 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: away from an election. The pole business is booming. Once 294 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: upon a time we used to have the two TV 295 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: networks in the game, but now they've been joined by others, 296 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: keeping the opinion writers in business and politics as the 297 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: leading news driver in this country. So this one was 298 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: paid for by the Taxpayers Union, and A breathlessly reports 299 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: that New Zealand First is on the rise. It is 300 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: now the third most popular party. Winston maybe eighty, but 301 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: it looks like he's here to stay. And the two 302 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: major parties are pretty equal at thirty on each. There 303 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: seems to be no dominant party right now in New Zealand. 304 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: And other than that, the other takeaway is that we 305 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: don't really like the leaders of the major parties. Both 306 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: leaders have popularity rankings less than twenty percent. That could 307 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: be because they're both demonstrably a bit average. Now that 308 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: is particularly concerning for National and the Prime Minister who 309 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: learns that eighty percent of the New Zealanders don't raige 310 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: them as a PM. And why is this? I think 311 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: it reflects a deep disease about where the country finds itself. 312 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: In a week where we found that we grew not 313 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: one jot in the last financial quarter, people are wondering 314 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: why we've got so stuck of the Mayer. 315 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 8: Now. 316 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: National's easy answer at the last election in this past 317 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: eighteen months is that labor is useless. But eighteen months 318 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: International's governments, I feel people are still wondering where we're 319 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: going and where that Maybe they're a bit useless too, 320 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: And I blame politics and the urge to and the 321 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: urge to politicize every issue and to polarize the voters. 322 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: Our current default position from all our politicians is the 323 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: other side is crap. Vote for us. But I think 324 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: the country is saying, Ye're both crap. There is no 325 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: truth teller out there leading the way through the merk 326 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: and in this vacuum of leadership, Winston shines by just 327 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: doing the basics as a foreign minister well and not 328 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: being demonstrably useless. 329 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: News talk zed be It's. 330 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: The fortieth anniversary of the Rainbow Warrior bombing yesterday and 331 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: they had a little, a little pow wow down in 332 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: the wharves of Auckland. In fact, the new Rainbow Warrior 333 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: was there. I saw that boat actually about a month ago. 334 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: It was paying a visit and it was quite a 335 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: shock to see it because it looks just like the 336 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: old boat. But anyway, I can tell you exactly where 337 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: I was forty years ago when the Rainbow Warrior was bombed, 338 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: and I've got that story and I feel few feelings 339 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: about that still to come. We're talking to Vincent Macaveni 340 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: today out of the UK. The editorial in the Guardian 341 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: today is has the Trump putin bromance finally run its course. 342 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: You think ever get the feeling you've been played Donald, 343 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: No wonder you're swearing in public anyway. We'll talk to 344 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: Vincent's about the bromance between France and England. I'll tell 345 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: you a little bit about the foot see as well, 346 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: and later. Who knew that we had ATM machines that 347 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: dealt in crypto? We don't anymore. They've decided to get 348 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: rid of them because of money money laundering. So we'll 349 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: talked to Roger Bowman about that and the new anti 350 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: scam Alliance. So that's all still to come, including reporters 351 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: from right around New Zealander's Early edition continues here on 352 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: news Talk z it B on a Friday, the eleventh 353 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: of July. 354 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day Early 355 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: Edition with Andrew Dickens and ex Pole Insulation keeping Kiwi 356 00:17:53,480 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: Holmes warm and dry this winter news Talks at B. 357 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: Good morning, thank you for choosing the program, my man 358 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: Tre Dickinson for Ryan Bridge. I've got another week to 359 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 2: do this and then he's back. Very emotional day yesterday 360 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: as the fortieth anniversary of the Rainbow Warrior bombing was 361 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: commemorated and I actually remembered that day well. At the time, 362 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: I had a flattened Parnell. It was the first time 363 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: I was living with Heaven, my partner. I'm still with Helen. 364 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: We've got two kids. Anyway, we're in Parnell. The middle 365 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: of the night, We're woken up by a dull wamp. 366 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: We both said what was that? And then of course 367 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: we fell straight back to sleep. But when we woke up, 368 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: we discovered the horror of state terrorism against New Zealand. 369 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: We couldn't believe it, and it resulted in the death 370 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: of a crewman. And so later that day, after going 371 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: into UNI, I actually wandered down to Mars and Wharf 372 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: and I joined the slow procession of onlookers looking at 373 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: the half submerged wreck and it was really chilling and 374 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: everyone was sad. Now this week I learned new stuff 375 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: about the attack from the Rainbow Warrior podcast I Forgotten History, 376 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: which is available now on iHeartRadio. They tracked down the 377 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: French guy who actually planted the bomb. He lives in 378 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: retirement in a lovely town in France called Metz. He's 379 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: having a lovely full life the way Fernando Perira did not. 380 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: He revealed they did a test run on a sheet 381 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: of metal and they went, oh, now we're going to 382 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: have to add some more umph into this, and the 383 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: results led them to overcook the bomb on the boat, 384 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: so blew the ship apart, and the Rainbow Warriors sank 385 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: him five minutes flat, and that's why Fernando died. If 386 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: the action wasn't shocky enough, the incompetence of the bombers 387 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: is astounding. Really, the French called the project Operation Satanique, 388 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: or otherwise known as Satanic, showing that they knew how 389 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: bad they were being. It was an incredibly gross thing 390 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: for one nation to do to another, And in my lifetime, 391 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: no other nation has ever done anything to us quite 392 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: so bad. It's a terrible breach of sovereignty. They're lucky 393 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: we forgave them to be honest, and yet look at this. 394 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: Their rugby team is here staying in a a hotel 395 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: not two kilometers away from where the Rainbow Warrior went down. 396 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: It's extraordinary news talk, said be Graham said me a 397 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: text it is well worth reading. Andrew, you need to 398 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: offer a balanced view of New Zealand. If things are 399 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: so bad, how come the Maldy economy is doing so 400 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: well well, Graham. They've got a seventeen point five percent 401 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: concessionary tax rate, so that helps. 402 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 8: Graham. 403 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: As how come Christians and Selwyn are going well well, 404 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: they're still rebuilding frankly after the earthquake. Enjoy your new stadium, 405 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: can't wait for it? And what about our agriculture and 406 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: horticulture doing well? While that's overseas factors. But Graham says this, 407 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: we need to speak positively as well as critically. It 408 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: has become so fashionable to be down on New Zealand 409 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: and not up tall poppy syndrome is alive and well, 410 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: and you are feeding at Dickens without offering a balanced 411 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: view of things. You've got a funny old economy right now. 412 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: Some of it's going real real well. Farmers are great. 413 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: News, talk, said b Let's. 414 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: Go around the country. Callum Procter fromed and good morning 415 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: to you mate, morning Andrew. So that terrible stabbing in 416 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: Dunedin's bus hub. Where are we at with this? 417 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 9: Well, we've got the sentencing today. This is for the 418 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 9: fourteen year old who fatally stabbed a fellow teen back 419 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 9: in May of twenty twenty four. The fourteen year old 420 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 9: has permanent name suppression, but will be sentenced today. He 421 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 9: was found guilty of manslaughter over this death of sixteen 422 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 9: year old and edair Tana McLaren. He died of a 423 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 9: single stab wound at the Great King Street bus hub. 424 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 9: The jury, you'll remember, return to the lesser charge of manslaughter. 425 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 9: That was after more than two days of deliberations in March, 426 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 9: so we await with interest the sentencing today. Meanwhile, concerns 427 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 9: remain about tensions at the bus hub here. Recent incidents 428 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 9: include a woman discharging a BB gun there and complaints 429 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 9: that security guards are failing to patrol the area. 430 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: How's your weather today? 431 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 9: Fine for us, but rain from this afternoon strong nor 432 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 9: easterlies get up Dunedin's high today twelve. 433 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. Callum clai joins U from christ Church. 434 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: Good morning to your Claire. 435 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 8: Good morning. 436 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: So there's going to be more international routes coming in 437 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: and out of christ Church so that more Keywis can 438 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: leave for Australia. 439 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 10: Ah, yes, well Andrew. We know that the Garden City 440 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 10: has been a magnet for airlines recently. We've had the 441 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 10: likes of Quantus, Singapore Air and China Southern all increasing 442 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 10: capacity over summer in New Zealand's also boosted some routes 443 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 10: between Auckland and Adelaide and it hasn't ruled out adding 444 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 10: a bit more coming to and from christ Church. Now 445 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 10: we've spoken with the mayor film major, he says, Look, 446 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 10: christ Church is not going to bother relying on the 447 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 10: national carrier. The airport's working really hard to get more 448 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 10: flights in from a range of airlines. He says this 449 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 10: talk about Korean Air and China Eastern also starting flights 450 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 10: for christ Church. He says Lork christ Church has the 451 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 10: best airport in New Zealand. That shows Auckland is spending 452 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 10: a lot of money on theirs, but is also raising 453 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 10: the landing charges, which apparently is why christ Church is 454 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 10: getting more competitive now. 455 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: It's a great airport. It's flat and as close to 456 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: the town as really pretty when you come on in. 457 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: And by the way, how's your weather? 458 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 10: Well, a bit foggy this morning, otherwise should clear to 459 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 10: find before some rain this after noon. Northeasterlies and a 460 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 10: high of thirteen. 461 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: And I thank you hav a great weekend, clear next 462 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: toelve from Wellington. Good morning, good morning, give me another 463 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: reason to go to Tipapa well. 464 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: A take on Captain Robert Falcon Scott's Antarctic exhibition is 465 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: opening at Tip Papa. It is a virtual reality experience. 466 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 4: I believe it's been in Auckland and is now coming 467 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: to the capital. It provides a lifelike view of Scott's 468 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: famous voyage to Antarctica from nineteen ten. You can sort 469 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 4: of put on the headset, crunch through snow pats and penguins. 470 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 4: Minister of Culture and Arts Paul Goldsmith opened it yesterday 471 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: at Tip Papa. Put it on himself, says it was 472 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: eye opening, a great way to view a historic event 473 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 4: and there would probably be an opportunity to make more 474 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 4: of history available in such a VR fashion in the future. 475 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: Available until Sunday, in hot demand. 476 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: And how's your weather. 477 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: It's going to be rainy later with stronger winds. Fifteen 478 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 4: the high and. 479 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: I thank you Max. Have a great weekend. Neva Ritchtiman 480 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: who joins me from Aukland. Hello, Neva, good morning, Happy Friday. 481 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: Smith and Coe's Department store used to have the best 482 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: Christmas windows and are thought to myself, what's happened to 483 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: all that stuff? 484 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 6: Yes, well, as we all know. In the store is 485 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 6: shut up in June after more than one hundred and 486 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 6: forty years of trading. So the news now injuries that center, 487 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 6: sleigh and all the other surplus supplies from Auckland's now 488 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 6: closed Smith and Coe's department store up for auction. So 489 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 6: the shop's Christmas Day car Now this includes as you say, 490 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 6: the sleigh, the trees, the vintage ornament's antique furniture. It's 491 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 6: listed with the starting bid of forty four thousand dollars. 492 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 6: And there are other lots which include the shelving units, mirrors, 493 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 6: display tables, commercial kitchen appliances, plenty of coat hangers. It's 494 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 6: all going. Some of the bids have a reserve price 495 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 6: as low as one dollar. So this auction website we 496 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 6: know will be starting from next Monday through to Sunday. 497 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 2: And how's orkins. 498 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 6: We're there, Okay, We've got rain, heavy falls from afternoon 499 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 6: and the winds are going to be strong northerly is 500 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 6: galegusting one hundred kilimeters per hour and exposed places seventeen 501 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 6: the high here in all Clinton and. 502 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: I thank you never have a great weekend. At is 503 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: seventeen minutes to six, and asked the question if we're 504 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: losing so many people to Australia. Why do we need 505 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: all the housing that people continually go on about well, 506 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: and that is why the housing market right now is 507 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: it's fair to say flat. In fact, Mark Smith from 508 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: the ASP who talked to me just after the five 509 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: o'clock news, was saying that this is affecting everything. We've 510 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: got less people. That means your house won't be rising 511 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: in prices. We're a little bit stuck in the mire 512 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: for a whole load of reasons. So it's all workable. 513 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: We can get round it. But the sooner the better. 514 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: It is sixteen to six. Vincent Macavenni out of the 515 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: UK in just a few moments time, and before the 516 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 2: news at six we're going to talk about scamming and 517 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: crypto with Roger Beaumont. 518 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of mind 519 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 520 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: If time is out thirteen to six. As I mentioned earlier, 521 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: the editorial in the Guardian today is has the Trump 522 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 2: prout and bromance finally and it's course you think you know. Meanwhile, 523 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: there's certainly a romance between France and England. As Macron's 524 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: visit continues, and we're joined now from the UK by 525 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: Vincent memcavinnie. Good morning to Vincent, Good morning. So how 526 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: did Macron finish his state visit? 527 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 11: Well, Macron has been here for three days. We've got 528 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 11: all the sort of royal pomp and ceremony outs. On 529 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 11: the first day he did a carriage tour around Windsor, 530 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 11: he addressed Parliament and then there was a state banquet 531 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 11: in the evening. But the last two days have all 532 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 11: been about negotiations with Sakirs Starma, the Prime Minister, about 533 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 11: a range of things, and we've had an announcement in 534 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 11: the past few hours there will be a new sort 535 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 11: of strategic partnership and alignment between the UK and France 536 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 11: on their nuclear de terrans. They're going to coordinate much 537 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 11: more closely. They wouldn't give us the full details because 538 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 11: they need strategic ambivalence, they say, but that is the 539 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 11: first deal of its kind between two nuclear powers. And 540 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 11: then there is this one in, one out deal, so 541 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 11: anyone they're going to run a pilot. Anyone who comes 542 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 11: across the channel from France will be returned and imediately 543 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 11: quickly to France, and then the UK will take someone 544 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 11: who has claimed asylum properly in France, not paid a 545 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 11: trafficker who has the potential right to come to the 546 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 11: UK because they already have a family member here and 547 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 11: definitely need asylum. So this is a big game changer 548 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 11: on a day where we've already had today around two 549 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 11: hundred and fifty people crossing the Channel, and we're already 550 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 11: up fifty percent on channel crossings this month versus where 551 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 11: we are the same month last year. So this is 552 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 11: a real priority for kirs Starmer, and it seemed that 553 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 11: there was a sort of recognition now by France that 554 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 11: they need to help get tough on this. 555 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the UK recognizes they're facing a rising and unpredictable 556 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: threat from Iran. 557 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, this's a really interesting report coming out from Parliament's 558 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 11: Intelligence and Security Committee warning that Iran is posing a 559 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 11: real risk and they are an unpredictable threat here in 560 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 11: the UK. And we already have a large Iranian expat 561 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 11: community here. A lot of them have felt threatened in 562 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 11: the past by Iranian operatives, and we've had journalists working 563 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 11: for International Iranian TV here being stalked and threatened as well, 564 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 11: but this report sheds more light on it. So in 565 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 11: the UK has to do more to counter this, and 566 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 11: the report was actually drafted before. Of course, the attack 567 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 11: recently that the US led on Iran that Britain says 568 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 11: it didn't play a part in. But we have had 569 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 11: an attempted attack earlier this year on the Israeli embassy 570 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 11: by five Iranian men. So this seems to be ratcheting 571 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 11: up the terrorism register as a possible problem for the UK. 572 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: Excuse me, good on you, Vincent. Sorry, I've just had 573 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: a cup of coffee. Good on you, Vincent. Thank you 574 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: for joining us today and enjoy your weekend. 575 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 11: Thanks, have a good weekend. 576 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, the foots one hundred indis 577 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: are the most valuable companies on the London Stock Exchange 578 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: has sought to a record high in good news. This 579 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: is because of this is a shrugging off concerns about 580 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's trade wars. So good times for the UK. 581 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: They hope it is ten six news talks. 582 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: It'd be all right. 583 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: Finally, some good news about skims. The Government's going to 584 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: address the country's scamming issues head with an anti scam alliance. 585 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: So with some reports suggesting the scams costing kind of 586 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: up to two billion, dollars annually. People are saying it's 587 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: well over due. The New Zealand Banking Association chief executive 588 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: is Roger Beaumont, who joins me now the body teer Roger. 589 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 7: Oh, good morning, Andrew, good to talk to you. 590 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: So what does this alliance actually do? What does it mean? 591 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 7: Well, what it means, excuse me, is a coordinated approach 592 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 7: across a number of industries and government agencies around tackling 593 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 7: scams because no one industry can actually deal with it 594 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 7: on their own. The banks have stepped up and done 595 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 7: a pretty good job of putting processes into place to 596 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 7: protect customers, but for it to truly be an effective ecosystem, 597 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 7: it needs everybody working together. And that's what the SAME's 598 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 7: to do. 599 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: Shoul. We have done that right from the go. 600 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 7: Oh, we've been calling for this for a couple of years, Andrew. 601 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 7: We've said that actually we can't do this on our own. 602 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 7: We need government leadership to actually bring all the individual 603 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 7: entities together to work in a coordinated way. So you know, 604 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 7: it's good that it's happened. 605 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: So scams, are they becoming worse or are we getting 606 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: on top of them? 607 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 7: Well, I think just the awareness and education that's gone 608 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 7: on by some of the awful stories that you've seen 609 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 7: play out in the media have themselves been an incredible 610 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 7: educational device. We also have put some processes into place 611 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 7: that have I think made a different So at Easter 612 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 7: we finished rolling out a thing called confirmation a payee 613 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 7: and you've probably experienced this if you've paid someone new 614 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 7: or made a one off payment by your banking app 615 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 7: or your online banking and what that does, for example, 616 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 7: is it tries to match that the person you're paying 617 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 7: matches the account number that that money is going into, 618 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 7: and you'll get a message back. But that's either a 619 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 7: complete match or a partial match, or no match at all, 620 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 7: and it'll give you that comfort or assurance that it's 621 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 7: right or to go or if not, to go back 622 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 7: and check some of those details. 623 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: Yah, I've had a few of those. It's a little 624 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: bit of a hassle, but at the same time, it's 625 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of a hassle, but it's even more 626 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: of a hassle to lose money, that's right. 627 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 7: I mean, you can't have it all. You've got a 628 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 7: If you want to have protections in place, there are 629 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 7: going to be there that's going to put friction in 630 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 7: the payment system and process. But that friction, I think 631 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 7: is a very small price to pay for having surety 632 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 7: about who you're sending money to. 633 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: All right, good luck. Now the thing I learned last night, 634 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: I had no idea we had two hundred crypto ATMs 635 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: in this country that being outboored. 636 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 7: Do you have an opinion on this, Well, it's interesting 637 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 7: that a number of we're just following a number of 638 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 7: jurisdictions around the world that have banned crypto ATMs. I 639 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 7: think the UK did it first in twenty twenty two 640 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 7: from memory, and so that is a global trend now 641 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 7: for that to happen. And crypto is a known tool 642 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 7: for criminals to shift money around the globe, and so 643 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 7: I think anything that puts in place processes that reduced 644 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 7: the opportunities for scammers and crims to be active is 645 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 7: a good thing. 646 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: Would it be fair to say that the banking industry 647 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: hates crypto? 648 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 7: I wouldn't go. We're not haters, Andrew. 649 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: Roger, I got to go. I gotta go, lovely to 650 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: talk to you. Roger Beaumont, who is the New Zealand 651 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: Banking Association's Chief executive News Talks b it is seven 652 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: and two six. 653 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew 654 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: Dickens and ex Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm and 655 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: dry This winter News Talks by the d. 656 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: C Ellen is on the Breakfast Show this morning. And 657 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: the very first thing she said to me was, Dickens, 658 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: you look naked. 659 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 12: You do look a little bit tired. 660 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: I've come right now. But it was three thirty in 661 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: the morning. 662 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 12: I was worried about was because you have you you 663 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 12: are known for a late night and what did you do? 664 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 12: Was it Monday or Tuesday night. 665 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: That you stayed at went out to the arts of 666 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: banks until what time? 667 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 8: Yeah? 668 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 12: That's really late mate, And so I thought, oh, no, 669 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 12: he's pulled an all night again, isn't he? 670 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 6: No? 671 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: No, but true, I do now. 672 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 12: So what must have happened was that you got out 673 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 12: of bed and walks, you know, get your wake up face. 674 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: It's got three thirty. 675 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 12: Yeah you have still had your wake up face. 676 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, swelling had came down. I forgive you now. It's 677 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: all good, okay, So what are you doing on the show? 678 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 9: Listen? 679 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 12: We're going to talk about scams the government. You know, 680 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 12: scams have been a thing forever, right, and we've been 681 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 12: talking about it for a very long time. Government's finally 682 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 12: got an anti scam alliance together. 683 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: So try to Roger Beaumont about that. 684 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 12: Brillian, Yeah, love Rodge. Love Rodge lives down the road 685 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 12: from me somewhere. Also going to talk about Alan. Do 686 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 12: you remember how last winter Sam and Brown floated that 687 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 12: idea that we can put it as the pipe dream. 688 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 12: It's not going to happen. It costs out a billion dollars. 689 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: What about my what about my barbecue? 690 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm sorry about your barbie, but what about my 691 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 12: stove at TYR? Yeah, sorry about your fancy stove. 692 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 6: Have you? 693 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 12: By the way, have you explained to people how epic 694 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 12: you'll be chouses? It's not it's not a batch. Is 695 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 12: that I can design. 696 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: Actually my home? People say you're going to your holiday homeday, 697 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: it's actually my home. 698 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 5: Hey? 699 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: Look, can I also say when we have no more 700 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: guests for the barbecue and all that sort, then can 701 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 2: you imagine how much electricity we're going to start using? 702 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 8: And so worry? 703 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: Hey see you next week. 704 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 12: Have a nice morning. 705 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: Yeah you too. 706 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: Town Flats and don't be in twice. 707 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. 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