Speaker 1: You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.
Speaker 2: That'd be.
Speaker 3: This is Wednesday, and welcome here till twelve. I hope
Speaker 3: things are good, and if they're not good, I hope
Speaker 3: they're better by the time midnight rolls around. I hope
Speaker 3: we can do some good tonight. I don't know what
Speaker 3: they're good is. Maybe who knows? Oh eight hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty toighty is the number? Are nine to nine two text.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of things probably we should talk about tonight.
Speaker 3: Got three or four things, but this will change throughout
Speaker 3: the course of the evening. There's other stuff that bounces up.
Speaker 3: Will bring that to your attention to We might even
Speaker 3: discuss it. We have quite a broad brief.
Speaker 2: Do we.
Speaker 3: Yes, we'll talk about anything basically, So if you want
Speaker 3: to be a part of it, get in touch. As
Speaker 3: I say, oh, eight hundred eighty thirty and nine two
Speaker 3: nine two to text. You'd have heard the news the
Speaker 3: news during the news also that Psmith and Cohe has
Speaker 3: Smith and Coey's has closed. Now for those that don't
Speaker 3: know Smith and coy'serhaps it's a bit like Ballantine's or
Speaker 3: a bit like Caircaldi's or a bit like I don't
Speaker 3: know what that the need and equivalent would have been,
Speaker 3: there would have been one, but you're or a bit
Speaker 3: like an invert cargol. They had h and Jays and
Speaker 3: that's God left a gaping hole. H and Jays also
Speaker 3: to the whole blocks just did with nothing going on.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so now it's turned for Smith and Curries
Speaker 3: were already about a year ago talked about their demise
Speaker 3: because it was going to go, but they decided to
Speaker 3: have another go with it. What was interesting I was
Speaker 3: an Auckland a bit over Christmas. Everyone was going to
Speaker 3: Smith and Curry's. They are the people that people go
Speaker 3: to for Father Christmas photos. Yes as kind of naph
Speaker 3: as that sounds, it is the go to people book
Speaker 3: ahead and it's like this right of passage for people
Speaker 3: seems to be a rite of passage, mainly for people
Speaker 3: that have moved to Auckland from elsewhere. I don't want
Speaker 3: to sound jelish, but that seems to be what it is.
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure why that is. They think that's
Speaker 3: something that you need to do in Auckland is but anyway,
Speaker 3: and they booked out. You couldn't get in, was booked
Speaker 3: out for weeks and weeks in advance. So I don't
Speaker 3: quite know who now picks up that mental because who
Speaker 3: else would do that. I can't imagine what the answer
Speaker 3: that would be. And they be father Christmases that will
Speaker 3: be out of work, I suppose to, but who knows anyway.
Speaker 3: So if you want to talk quickly about Smith and Coey's,
Speaker 3: I've been there recently, recently in December. I think I
Speaker 3: had to buy something, and I had to buy a
Speaker 3: shirt for a child whose birthday was on the nineteenth
Speaker 3: of December. It was a sure he looked at for
Speaker 3: five minutes and decided it wasn't for him, gave it
Speaker 3: to his brother, who was quite happy with it. But yes,
Speaker 3: it was in one of those desperate shopping things that
Speaker 3: was the last place to go to, and even then
Speaker 3: it seemed slightly well, it seems slightly abandoned. However, also
Speaker 3: I took myself and sat myself in the cafe there
Speaker 3: and that was quite pleasant for a length of times.
Speaker 3: The people will miss that too, anyway, if you do
Speaker 3: want to. It's been there forever, but obviously to retail
Speaker 3: has gone. Department stores have gone. Queen Street's gone, and
Speaker 3: people blame it on COVID and the renovations, but it
Speaker 3: will be all manner of things and the fact they
Speaker 3: didn't pivot to online retail quick enough, and also too
Speaker 3: when it comes to big departments at stores. You might
Speaker 3: like to say too, perhaps with some of them that
Speaker 3: perhaps some of their brands, the choice of brands was
Speaker 3: perhaps in some cases too luxury and in other cases
Speaker 3: not luxury enough. So yeah, if you want to comment
Speaker 3: on that quickly. The My name is Marcus Welcome, eight
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. I don't know what will
Speaker 3: happen with the building. It feels like it's about six stories.
Speaker 3: It's quite a big building, takes up a whole block
Speaker 3: of be a significant building. I can't imagine what would
Speaker 3: go in there. I can't imagine who is the rising
Speaker 3: stars of commercial real estate that they would put in there.
Speaker 3: What's everyone clamoring to do? I know what it will be,
Speaker 3: probably bubble Tea put in the world's biggest bubble tea
Speaker 3: place that seems to not be falling out of favor
Speaker 3: with anyone, does it?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, so we had those yogurt places, you go those
Speaker 3: ice cream places you do, all the different topics they
Speaker 3: came and went. But bubble Tea, well it seems to
Speaker 3: work better in smaller shops. Bubble Tea you would want
Speaker 3: five floors a bit don't even know what the bubbles are.
Speaker 3: We tried the family once in Dneed and it was
Speaker 3: a disaster. The people we were with you, I've never
Speaker 3: known anyone who has so much trouble struggle with But
Speaker 3: I mean I loved it, but the kids were sort
Speaker 3: of non play. There was a bit too sophisticated for
Speaker 3: them out from Bluff and the big city of Dunedin
Speaker 3: experimenting with the bubble Tea thing. Anyway, I think they
Speaker 3: thought it was going to be more excited than next
Speaker 3: you was, which is probably very much what I've always
Speaker 3: thought about bubble Tea. Anyway, who although I kind of
Speaker 3: thought I was there at the beginning of bubble Tea,
Speaker 3: when was at about two thousand. Anyway, do get in touch.
Speaker 3: My name as Marcus Welcome eight hundred and eighty ten
Speaker 3: eighty nine two nine two to text. Winston's been a
Speaker 3: bit precious a with the guy. I don't know what
Speaker 3: he does it Tonkin and Taylor, I certainly hope he
Speaker 3: keeps his job. Otherwise I'd been feeling differently about Tonkin
Speaker 3: and Taylor. I could imagine going to work one day
Speaker 3: on a train and seeing Winston Peters there grandstanding and
Speaker 3: PEPs thinking I need to say something, and that's a
Speaker 3: that's a healthy kind of thing to want to do.
Speaker 3: And we all have bad days sometimes think oh, well,
Speaker 3: you know, and someone cops what we have to say.
Speaker 3: I presume that dominated talk back today. Everywhere I've heard,
Speaker 3: there's been online polls what should you do? Should be
Speaker 3: able to say anything?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 5: At work?
Speaker 3: I mean I was sure, well, you know, should you
Speaker 3: be able to do that? I'm probably in a slightly
Speaker 3: different position because if I went out there and sort
Speaker 3: of started abusing someone, probably I would expect there'd be
Speaker 3: consequences because I am someone that works in that public realm.
Speaker 3: If you work at Tonkin and Taylor should be able
Speaker 3: say what you like when you're off the clock. That
Speaker 3: would be my take on that one also tonight. But look,
Speaker 3: no doubt that's been every time I've turned they ready
Speaker 3: to I've heard people talking about that. So no doubt
Speaker 3: that dominated the discussion today. So there's that also too today,
Speaker 3: since I have to throw things through a few things
Speaker 3: at you to get your grabbing. Tonight, the guy from
Speaker 3: Chairs has died. Now, probably most of you. The first
Speaker 3: thing we thought was well, I didn't know he was
Speaker 3: still alive. It didn't look like he was going to
Speaker 3: hang around for if. I believe he spent some time
Speaker 3: in New Zealand filming a movie, and I think that
Speaker 3: would be the late nineties. I remember working at a
Speaker 3: restaurant when he was a frequent visitor. I don't know
Speaker 3: what the movie he was filming was, but it was
Speaker 3: certainly filmed in New Zealand. He was here for some months.
Speaker 3: I will do some research. I remember what it was.
Speaker 3: But also the other thing I can tell you about
Speaker 3: George Went who was from Cheers, and there's a very
Speaker 3: funny song about that. And it's not often we can
Speaker 3: get a song about Norm from Cheers, but yes, we
Speaker 3: might ever played that later tonight. I've just remembered the
Speaker 3: lyrics to that. Someone remind me what the song is called. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I'm putting the show together on the fly. I'm quite
Speaker 3: enjoying this. So Norm from Cheers, but the three I
Speaker 3: about Norm from Cheers? What was the song? Someone remembered?
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't even google it up. I'm not
Speaker 3: looking at the song from Cheers. I'm looking at the
Speaker 3: song that contains the Norm from Cheers lyrics. What's it
Speaker 3: called Dan? Who's it by? Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: It's the welcome Matt from Cheers. What's the song called?
Speaker 3: Play me? Anyway? So the thing about Norm from Cheers is,
Speaker 3: once upon a time at christ Jewich Airport they had
Speaker 3: a bar called the Cheers Bar, and this was like
Speaker 3: thirty years ago, and in that bar they had animatronics
Speaker 3: people sitting at the bar, and one of them was
Speaker 3: Norm from Cheers, and one of them was one of
Speaker 3: the other guys from Cheers. I think it was the
Speaker 3: poster and they talked to you when you drank. Now,
Speaker 3: how sad that a bar We've got to go and
Speaker 3: sit next to robots that will talk to you. But
Speaker 3: then they got sued by the Cheers people and they
Speaker 3: had to change them into just nondescript people at the bar.
Speaker 3: So that is the situation with the Cheers Bar, some
Speaker 3: of them. It was a big deal in christ Church
Speaker 3: at the time. We thought it was the future, but
Speaker 3: not as much of the future as AI. But it
Speaker 3: was pretty exciting at the time. Can you see me
Speaker 3: as lyrics down? I couldn't find them. Was it called
Speaker 3: they'll play me the welcome matt uh? Is that what
Speaker 3: the song is called? It might be the one I'm
Speaker 3: exactly thinking of it. You seen those lyrics through and
Speaker 3: I'll tell people if that's the one I'm thinking of
Speaker 3: or not. Anyway, full board men will get going with
Speaker 3: the people. There's people there would like some more. Actually, factually,
Speaker 3: oh eight hundred and eighty sady and nine to nine
Speaker 3: two to text. Oh beautiful. I'll start drinking hot water
Speaker 3: quite good. I don't know why I've switched, but it'll
Speaker 3: make sense sometime. So three things they are already free speech,
Speaker 3: Winston Peters, Smith and Cowe's and norm from Cheers you
Speaker 3: hit send? Oh you have found the lyrics yet? Now
Speaker 3: I've found them either just a song okay, dB Marcus welcome.
Speaker 6: Where everybody knows your name? Anyway, Smith and Curry's. As
Speaker 6: a young child, and I'm talking six, maybe five, maybe seven,
Speaker 6: I Smiff and Curry's fascinated me because they had the
Speaker 6: lambsome tube system of doing the money.
Speaker 3: Now is that the one that's that's not the one
Speaker 3: on cables. That's the one that's hydraulics.
Speaker 6: No, this one's pneumatic.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 7: So you.
Speaker 6: Would hand over your money with a receipt to the
Speaker 6: I don't know what they would call them. Anyway, they
Speaker 6: would put it into a little capsule where they'd go
Speaker 6: into a tube. Zum gone. Yeah, at about two maybe three, zook,
Speaker 6: come back with your change, your receipts for paying, and
Speaker 6: you could leave the shops. Fascinated me.
Speaker 3: I wonder, I wonder why I phased that out. What
Speaker 3: was the point of all of that.
Speaker 6: Well, the first the point of it was that way the.
Speaker 5: I'd really like a.
Speaker 6: Better word from the attendant. But the person telling you
Speaker 6: the goods didn't handle the money. It was taken to
Speaker 6: a central position and they had cashiers there that did
Speaker 6: the money transaction. There was no money in the shop.
Speaker 6: It was in a secure location to use an americanism,
Speaker 6: and that was that was quite common in the fifties
Speaker 6: and sixties. And I'm talking sixty five sixty six, So
Speaker 6: in that era that wasn't unusual because there were no
Speaker 6: point of sale pills, you know, a till was considered
Speaker 6: a little bit yeah, not the high class. And also
Speaker 6: these people shopping at Stiff and Courage. They would have
Speaker 6: themselves a credit token that they could put in with
Speaker 6: what they're purchasing, and then they actually have to pay cash.
Speaker 6: It was they would have a running account that was
Speaker 6: kept again in the cashiers are they would check your
Speaker 6: token against what, you know, your account. This was long
Speaker 6: before anything electronic, of course, and if you had a
Speaker 6: good credit rating with them, or even perhaps a positive
Speaker 6: credit balance, you could buy stuff without handling money, and
Speaker 6: that was considered. They was there for the.
Speaker 3: Time because there are there are other shops that had
Speaker 3: things like cables that you could clip stuff on that
Speaker 3: was quite complicated as well. The other thing I need
Speaker 3: to use there, yes, and the other thing I probably
Speaker 3: need to tell you about. There is a burger bar
Speaker 3: in christ Gyge that's quite interesting and they deliver your
Speaker 3: food in the pneumatic tubes.
Speaker 6: Hopefully it's not a MiG shake.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: It comes to like a canister, an animinium canister canister
Speaker 3: that you kind of unroll and it works quite well well.
Speaker 6: A lot of hospitals still used the them method for
Speaker 6: samples across vast distances, you know, and you could program
Speaker 6: the canister go different places. If we had to go
Speaker 6: to thematology. You push a different an exeit coator they
Speaker 6: had to go to I don't know, tissue something. It
Speaker 6: would go somewhere else. And they were very efficient. I
Speaker 6: could a bit of a sudding on damp and shoes
Speaker 6: there is. But the other thing that I remember, they
Speaker 6: have conflated the memory. They had a lift caller, so
Speaker 6: the the elevator, the lift was manually operated and they
Speaker 6: had a list attendant and he would call the good
Speaker 6: on the floors as you arrived, very much like are
Speaker 6: you being served? You hear it in the background, I.
Speaker 3: Think, because in those days the lift quite I think
Speaker 3: in those days the lift were quite complicated to operate.
Speaker 6: Was that right handle that you went go up and
Speaker 6: go down? Yes, I don't know if they were necessarily complicated.
Speaker 6: I remember being allowed to operate a few I missed
Speaker 6: the floor being dead. Even that requires skill. But the
Speaker 6: mechanism itself was turn the handle one way, it go up,
Speaker 6: turn the handle the other way it goes down. Not
Speaker 6: unlike a train pushing forward, it go forward, push it backwards,
Speaker 6: did go backwards. The skill was stopping where people wanted
Speaker 6: to be.
Speaker 3: How many years was it since you've been dismissing Coe's dB.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 6: Oh that's a great question. Maybe thirty years.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well hasn't changed much, but now it's going. Able
Speaker 3: to move on, d bit nice to talk interesting sown.
Speaker 3: I feel I threw too much at you, but that's fine.
Speaker 3: I was excited to be here. Welcome anyway. I didn't
Speaker 3: find that song. It's called the Welcome Mad. It's from
Speaker 3: probably about nineteen ninety two. Was big an alternative radio
Speaker 3: at its day. Happy International Tea Day, Marcus, how do
Speaker 3: you like your tea? What's your predictions on the budget tomorrow?
Speaker 3: Budgets these days are of no interest. Really, little will
Speaker 3: happen to be a little that we talk about, much
Speaker 3: debated figures and much talk about tightening the belt. Thank
Speaker 3: you Marcus for that. If I saw Winston private, I'd say,
Speaker 3: can we have the six September the sixth Test live? Please?
Speaker 3: Three TV?
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Very good, Marcus. If you're out, if you were to
Speaker 3: shouted a supplier or customers and advertise of news talks,
Speaker 3: there'd be whilst wearing the news talks, he'd be lanyard
Speaker 3: or cap. Do you think that is okay? I don't, Peter,
Speaker 3: I don't think what the person had done was illegal.
Speaker 3: I think you can say stuff that's free speech, but
Speaker 3: certainly they've made that into a big deal. I guess
Speaker 3: because there are reporters there. Someone said that the Tonkin
Speaker 3: and Taylor are also a client of Well ended Rails,
Speaker 3: a client of Tonkin and Taylor, but that becomes complicated.
Speaker 3: I think it looked bad on Tonkin and Tailor if
Speaker 3: they did dismissed the guy or took action against them.
Speaker 3: But you might differ. I see also the run it
Speaker 3: or run it straight. They've run into some of those campaigns.
Speaker 3: They have run into trouble. It looks like some of
Speaker 3: those ones might be going ahead, but it appears to
Speaker 3: be about three of them trying to go ahead. Anyway,
Speaker 3: You're going to need to retype that text, Brink, because
Speaker 3: I can hardly understand the writing. You're just gonna have
Speaker 3: to edit it because I've read it and I can't
Speaker 3: read that out just yet. Could it didn't make much sense,
Speaker 3: but just spell check it that. I think it would
Speaker 3: be good. Smith and Coey's Winston Peters, remember how Cheers?
Speaker 3: How good Cheers was? I think you'd put that in
Speaker 3: your top five American sitcoms. Wouldn't you. It was one
Speaker 3: of those great ones that very really did they leave it.
Speaker 3: It was always in the bar, which I think is
Speaker 3: a great thing. I think a sitcom is great when
Speaker 3: they don't kind of when you know what you're up against,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just them around the bar. I think
Speaker 3: once or twice they might have left. And then of
Speaker 3: course Frasier steamed off from that too. Very well done
Speaker 3: in its day, and every time I've seen an episode
Speaker 3: recently it's kind of aged pretty well. Oh by the way,
Speaker 3: if also anyone remembers that bar at the christ Jewish
Speaker 3: Airport where it was a cheers bar and you'd sit
Speaker 3: next to a drink next to the robot that was
Speaker 3: based on him until they sued for their likeness. I
Speaker 3: don't know who's going to pick up the mantle for
Speaker 3: the Santa Claus because it was an extremely big deal
Speaker 3: for Smith and Goey's. I mean, if you could actually
Speaker 3: manage to get that going, get that ip or whatever
Speaker 3: it's called. I mean, it's not much to it. It's
Speaker 3: just a winter wonderland and a guy in a bed,
Speaker 3: but you can do kind of an upmarket Santa Clause
Speaker 3: could be of every exciting thing, hold your horse's lease
Speaker 3: away with you. So the number, as I say, is oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, nineteen eighty two chairs started. It went
Speaker 3: for eleven seasons. But yes, skid amongst. If your doing
Speaker 3: a talk, miname as Marcus welcome, Oh eight hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty nine two nine two detect of his
Speaker 3: breaking news, and of course the Smith and Coen news
Speaker 3: only came out with in the last hour also, so
Speaker 3: just breaking or readjusting that it's closing for good. I
Speaker 3: don't know what will happen to the building. You'd be
Speaker 3: a fitty bold person to take that on. But now
Speaker 3: that you've got the rail loop opening, it's quite handy
Speaker 3: to every thing. In fact, with the rail loop, I
Speaker 3: think that becomes an extremely attractive proposition. Maybe there's a
Speaker 3: giant bubble tea seems to you what everyone wants. It's
Speaker 3: what everyone goes into town for. Oh, eight hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty ten with gelato, Oh eight hundred eighty good evening, sir,
Speaker 3: it's Marcus welcome.
Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 8: Can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Or eight speak unclear sounding very crisp, So thank you
Speaker 3: for that, Lisa.
Speaker 8: Oh that's good. So I was just listening to the
Speaker 8: other guy talking about Smith and Cowie, and it reminded
Speaker 8: me of my very early years. That would have been
Speaker 8: about the mid seventies, I think, going to George Courts
Speaker 8: and k Road with my mum and we'd we'd part
Speaker 8: in the back somewhere and we'd go across this bridge.
Speaker 3: That's right. There was that sort of that bridge, wasn't
Speaker 3: there like an eb what would you call that, like
Speaker 3: a flyer over?
Speaker 9: Yeah, which was quite modern in those days. Yes, And
Speaker 9: so we'd park in the car park and go across
Speaker 9: there and and then we're geting a lift and it
Speaker 9: was this very manual lift where where there would be
Speaker 9: assistance like the other guy was talking about where.
Speaker 10: And it was it was like a cage.
Speaker 3: You should. You'd bring the grid across first and then
Speaker 3: you'd close the door and hook it in, wouldn't you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there there were like two doors and that were
Speaker 8: manually closed by this person that did it for us.
Speaker 8: It wasn't left left for the public to do. And
Speaker 8: he would ask you where you want to go, and
Speaker 8: he would push the button for the correct store at
Speaker 8: the correct level.
Speaker 3: And yes, there was the George Court and there was
Speaker 3: there was Rendell's just down as well, there was two
Speaker 3: big departments.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it might have been either. Now you mentioned that
Speaker 8: it might have even been that we win the same lift.
Speaker 8: I can't remember. And yeah, I don't know how how
Speaker 8: we went to either Rendall's or the other one, George Courts,
Speaker 8: but I remember particularly George Courts is very classical building,
Speaker 8: and they's now converted to a partner.
Speaker 3: That's right, And I think probably for most people, I
Speaker 3: think George Courts and Rendall's were a more sort of
Speaker 3: a accessible situation, and what happened at Smith and Coey's
Speaker 3: it probably was more designed to be affordable, would be
Speaker 3: my take. I would think. Nice to hear from Elsa,
Speaker 3: Thank you, Nicotts s Marcus.
Speaker 11: Good evening.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's Nick here.
Speaker 13: How are you good?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Just regarding Smith and Coey, it's said that I'm one
Speaker 13: of the professional tenders.
Speaker 3: Oh hang on, you one of there?
Speaker 12: What professional?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, for how long have you done that?
Speaker 13: I've been there, I'll be doing for a number of years.
Speaker 13: I did, will be there for about eight, eight or
Speaker 13: nine years.
Speaker 3: Oh well, condolences for losing your job.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I did seventy dig here last year.
Speaker 14: You did what six seventy.
Speaker 3: Gigs seventy so seventy different shifts.
Speaker 12: Yeah there last year.
Speaker 3: And what and sorry? How long was a shift?
Speaker 2: Nick?
Speaker 12: Three? Three hours? And yeah, we started early November.
Speaker 3: And people booked into like five minutes slots, did they?
Speaker 12: You know, we could only spend five minutes with a family.
Speaker 12: And it's pretty pretty continuous over there over the seventy gigs,
Speaker 12: four thousand children on my knee?
Speaker 3: Wow, and what would happen if the if the five
Speaker 3: minutes would I wouldn't else come and get them?
Speaker 15: Well?
Speaker 12: Well, no, we we sort of were just conscious of
Speaker 12: the time and we tried and I mean five minutes
Speaker 12: with the screening pread is far too long, but five
Speaker 12: minutes with a couple of teenage kids and stuff, it's
Speaker 12: nowhere near enough. But it's yeah, we sort of get
Speaker 12: a feeling and we we we that they let us
Speaker 12: know after a while, how are we tracking?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's mainly for then. It was manly a
Speaker 3: photo opportunity too, was it.
Speaker 12: Yeah? Yeah, well they get the photo. Yeah, it's but
Speaker 12: the whole experience, the whole center experience is world renowned.
Speaker 12: They got the enchanted forest with all the center of
Speaker 12: reindeer workshops and stuff and and and they're going to
Speaker 12: a you know, so in the room. I mean, I've
Speaker 12: done malls. I've done heat and malls and you know
Speaker 12: smith and Cory's the census. Every center's favorite place.
Speaker 3: Oh, more than one place? You more than one place
Speaker 3: is center.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I've done most of them all, and i'd have
Speaker 12: you know, my first choice is when you get our rosters,
Speaker 12: which is usually around about September October, and I wait
Speaker 12: for the center for the Smithy Coey's roster, and then
Speaker 12: all the other mauls will work around that.
Speaker 3: So is this some is this some business that runs
Speaker 3: all the centers?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Well yeah, these with there's twenty six centers there and
Speaker 12: the six on the floor at any one moment.
Speaker 3: But you you hold hang on, hang on. Are you
Speaker 3: booked to go to other malls as well?
Speaker 12: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, by the.
Speaker 3: Same by the same age, from the same agent.
Speaker 12: No, no, no, I work for about three different recruitment companies.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I understand, Okay, I appreciate terrible line bred,
Speaker 3: but I appreciate that. Thank you. I appreciate you coming
Speaker 3: through next. Sorry. By the way, of course, for the
Speaker 3: young people listening, there are Probably these are just representative
Speaker 3: centers until the real one can come through. I guess
Speaker 3: we've got to tall you that, don't we this time
Speaker 3: of the year. So that's what there's just it's just
Speaker 3: for the photo chants because so you can actually yeah,
Speaker 3: I think you get that whole drift. Anyway, some extremely
Speaker 3: good texts. The good texts are back, and that's an
Speaker 3: exciting thing. Someone's texture that said, what are people texting?
Speaker 3: Actually we just bring those ones up. Any kid listening
Speaker 3: throughout this time of the night should be on the
Speaker 3: NAISI list anyway, exactly. George Courts and John Courts were
Speaker 3: on opposite corners Renders further down the k Road opposites
Speaker 3: and Keevintac not familiar with the John Courts, but I'm
Speaker 3: sure someone will know about that. Marcus is Nick ringing
Speaker 3: from the North Pole, noisy and weird that his name
Speaker 3: is Nick. You're really weird. He's sounded young for a father.
Speaker 3: Christmas Marcus. I've just had a left of meeting at
Speaker 3: Trust Stadium and we're stalkland run it straight going on
Speaker 3: to the own absolutely huge crowd. That was always going
Speaker 3: to happen with that sort of publish I think it's
Speaker 3: the heat tonight? Is it?
Speaker 16: Is it?
Speaker 3: The heat? Is the heat? Marcus? Can they stop mentioning?
Speaker 3: Running it straight on the news? Now it's gone, Tony destroyed. No,
Speaker 3: I think that was just one of them. But is
Speaker 3: it trust stadium tonight? If that's what you mean. Good evening, Brent.
Speaker 17: Welcome, Hi Marcus? How are you good?
Speaker 3: Brent?
Speaker 17: That's the story? Hey, I sent you that text.
Speaker 3: You couldn't be that's right to say.
Speaker 17: It's a book called Machines Like Me written by a
Speaker 17: guy called em McEwan.
Speaker 3: Oh, yelled mckuwen YEA, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 17: It's related to AI. This can gets left three hundred
Speaker 17: and fifty thousand pounds and he buys a robot that
Speaker 17: is so low lifelike people can't differentiate whether it is
Speaker 17: human or whether it's a robot. And he introduces it
Speaker 17: to his girlfriend and it copulates with her wow, which
Speaker 17: is kind of bizarre. And he takes it to parties.
Speaker 17: He is the scary, but he takes it to parties
Speaker 17: and introduces it to people, and the robot sets on
Speaker 17: the side no, and can tell that he's not human.
Speaker 17: It says to him, I don't trust him, and he'll say,
Speaker 17: but you don't have that capacity, and the robot says,
Speaker 17: don't I. Well, no, that's that's a scary tale.
Speaker 3: What takes you? Has he got a kill switch?
Speaker 17: Well, it's it runs out of power. Here, it runs
Speaker 17: out of power, but then it learns how to actually
Speaker 17: recharge power. You know, it click power on before it
Speaker 17: knows it's going to run out of power. So he
Speaker 17: has to do away with its lead. But the whole
Speaker 17: thing is very scary when something like that that can
Speaker 17: talk says don't I have that capacity? Because he read
Speaker 17: them annual about what it could do, but he didn't
Speaker 17: think it could do that with his girlfriend.
Speaker 3: And what did the girl? What did the girlfriend think
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 17: She was quite It just happens to be very attractive.
Speaker 3: Was she none the wiser?
Speaker 17: She was none the wiser?
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 17: Crazy, good book to read. And another good book he wrote,
Speaker 17: it's called Saturday. That's a very good book.
Speaker 3: I've read that book.
Speaker 18: Have you?
Speaker 17: They will read read machines like about very good.
Speaker 3: Tell me about Saturday. Is there a balloonist or something?
Speaker 17: No, Saturday is about a guy who.
Speaker 19: Is a.
Speaker 17: He's a brain surgeon or whatever. And he goes down,
Speaker 17: goes down and gets some preissants and he has an
Speaker 17: accident and it wasn't his fault in the people he
Speaker 17: hit weren't the most likable people, so they home invade
Speaker 17: him and it all turns a bit nasty.
Speaker 3: What's the one with the balloon?
Speaker 17: Not read that, but you must see that when you
Speaker 17: spoke about I'm in christ Church, about the christ judge
Speaker 17: bar with those tears characters, I thought, well, I wonder
Speaker 17: how life right they would have been. I never went there.
Speaker 3: But so Enduring Lover is when the people witness a
Speaker 3: ballooning accent. That's the other in me cure and one
Speaker 3: ballooning Enduring Love, which is a good read.
Speaker 17: Yeah good, he's a good author.
Speaker 3: One of the greats, one of the greats. Hey, but
Speaker 3: tell me something. I don't know about you, but I'm
Speaker 3: a big fan of robots having a kill switch. Have
Speaker 3: you got strong feelings about that?
Speaker 17: I think that is a necessity when you read what
Speaker 17: Ian McEwan thinks might happen, because.
Speaker 3: Now they're doing backflip. Now they're doing backflips and all
Speaker 3: sorts of stuff.
Speaker 17: Yeah, hey, I think you've got to have a kill switch.
Speaker 17: I don't think i'd like one taking off as my girlfriend.
Speaker 3: No, I've been more concerned about well, yeah, okay, I
Speaker 3: was also. I was also slightly concerned that when they
Speaker 3: had that prowler at Margo mar Lago Trump's place before
Speaker 3: he took over power. The second time the prowler was
Speaker 3: caught by robotic dogs that were that were monitoring the
Speaker 3: boundary fence.
Speaker 17: Hey, well, I'm I'm sure they'd probably make a mess
Speaker 17: with somebody because.
Speaker 3: They sound terrifying, don't they do. Yeah, it's bad enough
Speaker 3: normal dogs, but once robotic dogs come at you, jeep,
Speaker 3: is it? Brent? Thank you. I appreciate your text now
Speaker 3: that I understand what that was about. But no one's
Speaker 3: yet rung up and talking about the bar at the
Speaker 3: Christchiech Airport with Norm from Cheers and also talk about
Speaker 3: Smith and I know people love nostalgia, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't even know what to say about Smith and Coey's
Speaker 3: huge number of staff. Yes, a very successful I didn't
Speaker 3: really experience the grotto or the workshop. I guess we're
Speaker 3: more of a farmer's family with their free bus up
Speaker 3: that would go in mckew and gosh, today was the
Speaker 3: anniversary of amiliar Earhart's flight. Thank you for that. Never
Speaker 3: to be seen again. Every five years there's someone found
Speaker 3: there wreckage, haven't they. I've read some fairly good reportage
Speaker 3: on that about just what happens. This is a text markets.
Speaker 3: Can they stop mentioning running it straight in the news
Speaker 3: now it's gone totally destroyed. No, I think it's still
Speaker 3: going badline for the North Pole need and back in
Speaker 3: decemberfore his stories. Please so now there's probably the only
Speaker 3: apartment department store that has left I would think in
Speaker 3: the whole of the country would be Ballantine's, and that's
Speaker 3: always looking lightly hollowed out these days. You might want
Speaker 3: to mention that, Marcus. Lots of public sympathy for Smith
Speaker 3: and Koey, but reality is consumers aren't shopping their hence
Speaker 3: the closure. Well, there's only sympathy in the terms of nostalgia,
Speaker 3: but people lamenting the end of Smith and Kowey as
Speaker 3: they're filling out their order formers for Timu or whatever
Speaker 3: they're doing online. I mean that's the reality. People have changed,
Speaker 3: haven't they. They've gone about the roadworks in the parking,
Speaker 3: but people want to buy stuff online. Our mess. You's
Speaker 3: put Mesh in your top five comedies. Fair enough to
Speaker 3: remember we all tune in for the last episode of
Speaker 3: mass and there was no laugh line or that was
Speaker 3: telling them that they were wow. Look at that no
Speaker 3: laughs and that no fun in war, Clinger in the
Speaker 3: dress Radar with his thick glasses difficult to work with.
Speaker 3: They reckon hot lips. Hulahan, It's all coming back, Marcus.
Speaker 3: Funny thing about robot dogs. One of the main dogs
Speaker 3: made advantages. They can spell you out, kind of robots
Speaker 3: spell you hiding in a bush? Still remember that terrible voice?
Speaker 3: What what someone's referring to on that Someone said, I
Speaker 3: would say that few American comedies are funny. Well, I
Speaker 3: think most would disagree with you. Actually, I think we're
Speaker 3: sort of beyond that. Only the Brits can do humor
Speaker 3: type thing from the fifties. But oh well that's you
Speaker 3: do you, you do you, and welcome you. Oh, by
Speaker 3: the way, we know what was the movie that George
Speaker 3: went filmed in New Zealand? And It was a big
Speaker 3: deal at the time, but not a very good film.
Speaker 3: Never Say Die with Tim with a Morrison. It was
Speaker 3: a big deal. Never Say Die Jeff Murvie movie, The
Speaker 3: Great Tony Barry. John Clark was a car salesman It
Speaker 3: was kind of a police chase around the country with
Speaker 3: a house in Grayland that blew up. You remember it,
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight, Well you might remember it. It was
Speaker 3: a good watch. Actually, I might rewatch it on the
Speaker 3: back of that five to nine here till midnight. Good evening, John, welcome.
Speaker 11: Him, Marcus. How are you using this?
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 3: Thank you John.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 11: Now I'll start at the bottom in the things. Yes, yes,
Speaker 11: Arthur Banet's was that that even top shop?
Speaker 3: What the cargel?
Speaker 11: No, No, I'm starting at Arthur Bannette.
Speaker 3: Do you said you're starting at the bottom.
Speaker 11: Well, no, I haven't got a bottom. That part with
Speaker 11: the big guys, the big guy.
Speaker 3: The big H and J's was one of the great
Speaker 3: department stores in the country.
Speaker 11: So Arthur Barnets was too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think in the end H and J's
Speaker 3: board Arthur Barnett. Okay, Ancient Jays, then Arthur Barnet and Duneda.
Speaker 11: Yes, then Valentine's. In christ Church. Beasts were also in
Speaker 11: christ Church.
Speaker 3: Pattern Beasts how's that spelled.
Speaker 11: B E A t HS, Beasts, Beasts and Armstrongs. They
Speaker 11: were the top three in christ Church. I used to
Speaker 11: work for such of these people.
Speaker 19: Were you are ripped?
Speaker 16: No.
Speaker 11: I used to be a footwear buyer lady the Ladies.
Speaker 3: Yes, I realized that I had.
Speaker 11: Eighteen staff and then Valentine's in christ chirts eighteen staff.
Speaker 3: Then Wellington, no christ Church? Are you moving up the country.
Speaker 11: A Wellington you had Cocordias Stains, James Smith and d C.
Speaker 3: Yes. And where else.
Speaker 11: No they there main ones No. And then you went
Speaker 11: to Paris North you had Joice's Joyces.
Speaker 3: Right yep.
Speaker 11: And then you went to Auckland and there's nothing in Hamilton,
Speaker 11: no big stores in Hamilton. Then you went to walk
Speaker 11: near Spit and Curries which was a beautiful shop, beautiful
Speaker 11: shop and farmers. So they were the two big ones
Speaker 11: in Auckland. And I used to sell all that or
Speaker 11: predict what woman was going to be wearing in the
Speaker 11: ladies foot where six months or nine months ahead?
Speaker 3: Goodness? Do you still follow the trends?
Speaker 11: No? I don't because I've eighty four now. Mean I'm
Speaker 11: you know, but I hear you talking about and I
Speaker 11: thought you couldn't get the one Undernead and I thought
Speaker 11: Arthur Bannets.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, John, I appreciate that. Just so
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not saying this to drive talk back,
Speaker 3: traffic chatter or conversation, but I think it's undignant. And
Speaker 3: this is going to sound weird for me because it's
Speaker 3: going to sound pious and slightly righteous, and that's fine.
Speaker 3: I think it lacks. I think it's undignified for our
Speaker 3: finance minister to call it the no b S budget.
Speaker 3: I know she's probably trying to sound tough and no nonsense,
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, it just kind of sits wrong with me.
Speaker 3: Not a big deal in the scheme of things. I mean,
Speaker 3: why not call it the no bullshit budget? You wouldn't
Speaker 3: say that, would you, So I abbreviate it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I kind of think she's miss a trick with that one,
Speaker 3: and already by that's put her on the back foot
Speaker 3: of it. But that's just my comment. It might be
Speaker 3: one of the most compelling and exciting documents, but she
Speaker 3: could have framed in a slightly more less confrontational, more
Speaker 3: kind of growing up way. It's beneath the office she holds.
Speaker 3: I think there you go. Any we are a good
Speaker 3: text coming through. We are talking about the death of
Speaker 3: the apartment store, and that very much has happened by
Speaker 3: the way, this is an international thing. I think you
Speaker 3: find that your David Jones in your minds and Australia
Speaker 3: aren't quite what they used to be. I don't know
Speaker 3: what's happened internationally. Herod's is still the thing. Of course,
Speaker 3: that guy that owned it appeared to be fairly grubby,
Speaker 3: didn't he now as he did now? I think Dodie's dad.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's sort of what's happening around the world.
Speaker 3: I think as retail falls and will not retail falls,
Speaker 3: but people buy online and go to the malls. So
Speaker 3: someone has said that Hamilton did have a mall, so
Speaker 3: you might want to ring about that. So I did
Speaker 3: not have a mall at it did have an apartment
Speaker 3: store at an apartment store with the DIC and a
Speaker 3: lift attendant in Chandler House, very exclusive for Cowtown. By
Speaker 3: the way, someone's texted me the entire copy of Never
Speaker 3: Say Die, of the movie with George went in it,
Speaker 3: and there's a scene with we'd a Morrison and a
Speaker 3: car and another guy who I think is I can't
Speaker 3: quite work out the actor doing that, but anyway, the
Speaker 3: line that this guy uses three times a week, and
Speaker 3: you might remember this from the movie never say die,
Speaker 3: I'm looking for Prognini strog Nostrovitch. Yeah, it's quite a
Speaker 3: fun rob that one. At ten past nine summon Texters.
Speaker 3: Agree with you about the budget title, just be genuine.
Speaker 3: People really respond well to people that are genuine in themselves,
Speaker 3: not full of bluster and pretense. Get in touch people.
Speaker 3: My name is Marcus. Welcome Heedal midnight tonight. We are
Speaker 3: discussing department stores. Smith and Coe's finally gone. There had
Speaker 3: a second go of it. I bet they wish they hadn't. Actually,
Speaker 3: there's probably good gesture of closed the store down when
Speaker 3: they did, like a year or so ago, but that's
Speaker 3: what did. They gave another another go. It didn't work,
Speaker 3: But there's going to be a huge hole for a
Speaker 3: winter wonderland or a center's workshop. I don't know where
Speaker 3: they'd put one of those now, Marcus, I agree the
Speaker 3: government talk about standards and call the new budget no
Speaker 3: bs really, Susie, Yeah, it's just wrong. It's just the optics.
Speaker 3: Well what's the sound version of optics? But it's all wrong. Marcus.
Speaker 3: I agree with you about the name of the budget.
Speaker 3: No nonsense budget would have been much more prepped, exactly
Speaker 3: absolutely exactly. I mean that might be the fun talk
Speaker 3: in the belt, whey you'll talk like that, but I
Speaker 3: think people expect something a bit better, especially with old
Speaker 3: Winston going on about that guy, sort of profaning him.
Speaker 3: But yes, and you know, I might be prone to
Speaker 3: colorful language off here, but it's a time and place
Speaker 3: that I would indulge it on here because it's the
Speaker 3: wrong kind of thing for it. When you start getting
Speaker 3: involved with the language like that, it's always a race
Speaker 3: to the bottom lines free if you want to talk
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Marcus, I agree, it's
Speaker 3: an odd thing to say for a finance person. Also,
Speaker 3: balance sheet can be shortened to b S and finance
Speaker 3: to speak. Thank you for that. Maybe it's a no
Speaker 3: balance sheet budget. That's probably what she'll be criticized about tomorrow,
Speaker 3: she said byes, But she might have been balance sheet.
Speaker 3: The juniors would be picking that up. By the way,
Speaker 3: discovered something today, the battery save mode on your cell phone.
Speaker 3: You go into set trees, you go into battery. Is
Speaker 3: there any downside to that? Marcus? Pressly, I'm not bothered
Speaker 3: too much with Nicholas no Bs where I do find issue,
Speaker 3: whether it's the PEM and others across the media saying
Speaker 3: furking or is it fricking? Which you want as a
Speaker 3: placement for the F word? Just saying cheers Terry. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well they try and get down with the people, don't
Speaker 3: They just come across looking like Gidiat's that's my take
Speaker 3: on that. John, it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.
Speaker 20: Is that you talking to Steward to John?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm talking to John.
Speaker 20: Oh, okay, I didn't expect you to come up that correct.
Speaker 20: But on the subject of AI, I heard that somebody
Speaker 20: had been defending their position of their security in the
Speaker 20: workplace because because they had so much experience, and I
Speaker 20: immediately sawt a'll ring in and I thought it was
Speaker 20: your program, But maybe it wasn't, and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 20: The thing is I immediately saw it. This is where
Speaker 20: AI can actually help people that have got a huge
Speaker 20: amount of knowledge to spread that knowledge more widely and
Speaker 20: more accurately than they can as an individual.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you agree with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe tell me more about this. Well, who was
Speaker 3: saying they weren't going to get replaced by AI? I'm
Speaker 3: interested in that.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 5: He was a guy that works in.
Speaker 20: Detecting leaky buildings, yes, and he considered himself to be
Speaker 20: quite an expert at it, and he didn't feel threatened
Speaker 20: by the concept of AI because he was pretty onto it.
Speaker 20: But the thing is he could be miles more onto
Speaker 20: it if he used AI to be able to be
Speaker 20: more places at the same time.
Speaker 3: More accurately, exactly.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 20: And so that I just kind of sort all of
Speaker 20: ring in because I think you've opened it up to
Speaker 20: a bit of general topic rather than something and the
Speaker 20: thing for.
Speaker 3: Me and talk back. I don't know with AI if
Speaker 3: the AI will replace the callers or the host or both.
Speaker 4: So I've got a really.
Speaker 20: Good friend at a very successful winemaker in the Hawk's Bay,
Speaker 20: and I was through going to his sieve India's birthday party.
Speaker 20: I meet a person from AI who's based in New
Speaker 20: Zealand that's Worldwide board and he's very good about AI.
Speaker 20: And so I said to my friend, very close friend.
Speaker 20: I said to him, you know, like, if you're coming
Speaker 20: up to retirement, you possibly need to look at AI
Speaker 20: because you need to be in several places at once
Speaker 20: and you really want to be spending more time with
Speaker 20: your loved ones and not working so hard and he said, well,
Speaker 20: how would that work? And I said, well, I think
Speaker 20: AI probably presents the opportunity because you can people can
Speaker 20: get access to your knowledge and without you actually being there.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Were you saying that to the winemaker or to the
Speaker 3: AI guy?
Speaker 20: No, to the wine maker. Okay, that's one night I
Speaker 20: was talking to the AI guy who is one of
Speaker 20: his closest friends. And the next night I talked to
Speaker 20: him and said, well, you know, this is possibly the
Speaker 20: way that you can retire and your your expertise and
Speaker 20: your future aspirations actually carry on with greater access to
Speaker 20: the people without overloading you and your retirement years.
Speaker 5: That's quite powerful.
Speaker 3: Oh powerful, all right? Be the end of civilization? Probably?
Speaker 20: Oh well, I just you know what is going to
Speaker 20: be the end of civilization when you look at what's
Speaker 20: going on around the.
Speaker 3: World, Probably probably AI when they become well be what's
Speaker 3: what's the word, when they become sentient?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 19: I mean.
Speaker 20: And then there was somebody in the in the discussion
Speaker 20: somewhere along the line talking about about no idea in
Speaker 20: the same subject was people are saying AI isn't a
Speaker 20: bit of a threat because but you know.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a pretty dry party if this is
Speaker 3: a party and a wine or eat cheapers.
Speaker 5: No, no, I just said that I was at that party.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but it sounds like quite a serious topic.
Speaker 20: Oh No, it wasn't at the party itself. It was
Speaker 20: the next day the party summer lunch event, where I
Speaker 20: just kind of got closer to this guy that's involved
Speaker 20: with AI and he said, well, at the end of
Speaker 20: the day, don't be scared of it instead of what
Speaker 20: it is if you're not using it, because if you
Speaker 20: if you're really successful at something and truly successful, not
Speaker 20: a cono, then you really do want to share that
Speaker 20: knowledge of your expertise in that. They'll say, like wine making,
Speaker 20: that's what a winemaker is. A winemaker is a person
Speaker 20: that's involved in the storyline in a marketing line and
Speaker 20: it's got enough experience to be winning all the awards.
Speaker 3: Live at the Stuart. But nice to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Thank you for that news from the New South Wales
Speaker 3: Mid Coast. In Australia, Mid mid Coast chaos as cows
Speaker 3: washed up on beaches. Where did the cows come from?
Speaker 3: They're walking jeeves, Lola, Yes, you.
Speaker 7: Were asking about that departmental store in Devon Street.
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you.
Speaker 5: Yes, I can hardly hear you.
Speaker 3: I wonder what it is. Oh was it really?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well you can't hear me. Can you hear me now?
Speaker 5: Adam?
Speaker 7: I can hear you better now, okay?
Speaker 6: Cool?
Speaker 3: Where did it close down?
Speaker 7: I don't know because I wasn't in the Taranaki district
Speaker 7: at the time.
Speaker 3: Okay, but it did have the police system. Is that right?
Speaker 7: Yes, they put the receipts and the thing paul a
Speaker 7: lever and away it went to the office.
Speaker 3: Okay. Why did they not trust the workers with money
Speaker 3: or was just was it just simpler that way?
Speaker 7: You'd put the money in there and they and they'd
Speaker 7: send the change back in it.
Speaker 3: It seems like a complicated way to do it, doesn't it.
Speaker 7: Well that's how they did it. I don't know any
Speaker 7: other store that operated that system.
Speaker 3: No, Well, find and it was it was on basket.
Speaker 3: Was it on bulldog clips?
Speaker 7: No, it was a little round tin sort of thing,
Speaker 7: and and it just oh, you just pulled the lever
Speaker 7: and it went was into the office.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe we might find something that worked in the
Speaker 3: office and know what they actually did there. Thank you
Speaker 3: for that, good evening, grace. This is Marcus welcome, good evening, Marcus.
Speaker 21: I've lived in Auckland all my life except when I
Speaker 21: came from My parents came from Gisbon when i was
Speaker 21: five years old, so I've got eighty years of memories
Speaker 21: of Smith and CEY's. Wow, I've tried to think what
Speaker 21: that the payment procedure was at Smith and Colly's. That
Speaker 21: the lady has just been trying to describe about a
Speaker 21: cylinder on a line that was sent upstairs to the offices,
Speaker 21: So the money was actually had handled upstairs. So that
Speaker 21: was the money part of it. But the other things
Speaker 21: I've thought about since I heard you talking about Smith
Speaker 21: and CEY's is all the stuff that will especially I
Speaker 21: remember the female staff were all always dressed very smartly
Speaker 21: in black uniforms. The toilets were penny in the slot,
Speaker 21: which was I can imagine that these days. And they
Speaker 21: had a very nice ladies' restroom where mums could feed
Speaker 21: their babies and change their babies, which was part of
Speaker 21: the toilet complex area. The counters were old fashion. Behind
Speaker 21: the counters were old fashion drawers that held gloves in
Speaker 21: one one drawer and scarves in another, and that sort
Speaker 21: of thing. The old fashion type of holding, you know,
Speaker 21: the products that they had. Some of the Coe's was
Speaker 21: has always been a high end retailer. There was, of course.
Speaker 21: The others were, and I've grown up with all of them.
Speaker 21: Was the Farmers, George and John Courts and Randolph's, which
Speaker 21: you could class those as sort of more of a
Speaker 21: working person's department store. And I know about George and
Speaker 21: John Courts because I grew up just along the road
Speaker 21: from where George Courts used to be, on the corner
Speaker 21: of Front Street and Crangapi Road.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah.
Speaker 21: John Court's, for memory, was halfway down Queen Street. I
Speaker 21: think eventually it became whit Calls.
Speaker 3: Oh yes.
Speaker 21: There should be quite a lot of people round about
Speaker 21: my age in the eighties and nineties that have lovely
Speaker 21: memories of those places. A closer memory of George and
Speaker 21: John Courts is there's a Court Crescent in Pamua and
Speaker 21: the original Court Home is actually on Court Crescent.
Speaker 3: Okay, how do you know, so, Elia, are you a historian?
Speaker 3: Because you know a lot, don't you.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 21: Up until ten or plus, I belonged to the local
Speaker 21: Historical Society.
Speaker 3: In which area this is Pamua.
Speaker 21: I actually live in Court Present. I actually live in
Speaker 21: Court present and right opposite me is the Court what
Speaker 21: I've always called it the Court Homestead. It would originally
Speaker 21: been surrounded by acres of farmland, and because it's near
Speaker 21: the foot of Mount Wellington, and because that's where you know,
Speaker 21: the horse breeding and a hunt club was and all
Speaker 21: those sort of things in the market gardens. So I've
Speaker 21: really got some wonderful memories of Smith and Coey's.
Speaker 3: It was lovely.
Speaker 21: It was a treat when I got older and when
Speaker 21: I was working to go to Smith and Coey's for
Speaker 21: a cup of tea.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've very good. Nice to hear from you, Grace,
Speaker 3: Thank you for those meenories. Twenty six to ten. There
Speaker 3: is a big website you can go to about have
Speaker 3: all the different shops and the different systems they had.
Speaker 3: A lot of them had something called a cash railway,
Speaker 3: which we think different from the pumatic system. It's a
Speaker 3: remarkable website. But a lot of them had the kesh railway,
Speaker 3: a lot of them had a wire system, a lot
Speaker 3: of them had a cable system, and some had the
Speaker 3: pneumatic system. All extremely interesting. Actually, good evening, Billet's Marcus, welcome, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Good evening. Sorry, I'm just telling you, going to explain.
Speaker 5: The pulling system was made by a company from the
Speaker 5: East end of London called Lambson Paragon. Yes, they made
Speaker 5: that system in all the department stores around the world actually,
Speaker 5: and that was the later That was.
Speaker 3: The Pulley system, not the pneumatic system.
Speaker 5: No, the pneumatic system came later, and that was with
Speaker 5: air and tubes.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the same couple did it, did they?
Speaker 5: I believe so I'm not sure on that. But the
Speaker 5: original what was Lambson Paragon, and they were called Lemson
Speaker 5: Paragon and they're.
Speaker 3: Called cash railways. That was a general name for them.
Speaker 2: Was it.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't know what they called it. It's just a
Speaker 5: wire system and they pulled it like it sprung away
Speaker 5: back to the cashier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's fascinating. I appreciate that, Thank you, Bill.
Speaker 3: Some of them seem to have balls that would roll
Speaker 3: down too. The cash ball system manufactured in the thirties.
Speaker 3: The cash is conveyed in the hollow wooden balls running
Speaker 3: along a pair of inclined tracks. The top one slopes
Speaker 3: down from sales point to kesha and the bottom slopes
Speaker 3: the other way. They were literally kind of railways gravity
Speaker 3: fed Railways. Hello, Willie, it's Marcus welcome.
Speaker 19: Hey, did I buddy? Here you go? Mate?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 3: Thanks, Willy, Hey, just.
Speaker 15: One of those pictures here. I run a restaurant and
Speaker 15: towering on the waterfront, and the name of the restaurant
Speaker 15: was called Lemson's.
Speaker 3: Oh yes.
Speaker 15: And in the day, the Lensns they were on why
Speaker 15: are police? And the lady down below she would put
Speaker 15: the money in the Lensen thing and she'd send it
Speaker 15: up to the teller up top.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 15: And they are actually called Lensen's. Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: You go.
Speaker 15: Believe it or not. Like this restaurant under I took
Speaker 15: over very upmarket restaurant. They still had all them in there,
Speaker 15: and sometimes people are a bit naughty with them, you know,
Speaker 15: put a bit of undergarment on and send it right
Speaker 15: across the obston at the restaurant.
Speaker 3: So when was this that it was still going, Willie?
Speaker 15: I know it was closed down, but they still were.
Speaker 15: They still had the lenses working, but it was just
Speaker 15: a feature in the restaurant. And it's called land Jair.
Speaker 3: But whenabouts was this, Willy, pardon, when was this restaurant open?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 15: You're going back to nineties, early nineties, Okay, but it
Speaker 15: had always been there as it always been there on
Speaker 15: the waterfront. Hey, can I ask you something else?
Speaker 19: Mate?
Speaker 3: Can I just stick with us for a Secah? The question,
Speaker 3: so would this place? Was it a new medic tuber?
Speaker 3: Was it right at Whys and Pulleys? Yes, yep it
Speaker 3: was Wyse and Pulleys.
Speaker 15: Correct Roger that yes, yep, definitely mate, Yes.
Speaker 3: And before it was a restaurant was it a department store?
Speaker 15: Yes? It was yes.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's your question?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 15: And rug me, okay, this is going off the chart,
Speaker 15: and rugged me like if a rugby will come down
Speaker 15: HiT's one of the planes square in the head and
Speaker 15: whatever would they would they go take love for?
Speaker 2: You know that?
Speaker 15: He and look at the reader masking this is my daughter.
Speaker 15: She knows a friend that's a good one. With players
Speaker 15: in the Penwich soccer and higgetspan headaches and all if
Speaker 15: she said was how can they hit up balls all
Speaker 15: the time? But any rugby players get one knock and
Speaker 15: they get tacking off your checked.
Speaker 3: I think there is concerns about head knocks with the
Speaker 3: ball and football. And I don't think they practice hitting
Speaker 3: at practice. They just do it at matches because they've
Speaker 3: realized they could get repercussions from it. It is something
Speaker 3: that's recognized and they are looking about for that, Willie.
Speaker 3: But thank you, Vicki. It's Marcus. Good evening, Good evening, Marcus.
Speaker 22: I'm wondering up to say that my first job after
Speaker 22: leaving school was operating the wire cash railway system in
Speaker 22: a department store.
Speaker 3: Fantastic.
Speaker 20: We worked in the office of.
Speaker 22: The office junior receptionist and all the money came in
Speaker 22: on the wire system is actually called a Lemsen rapid
Speaker 22: wire cash railway system.
Speaker 3: Is it lents and with two ends or.
Speaker 7: Now l A M S O N.
Speaker 3: So it was called a lamps on.
Speaker 22: Red rapid wire cash railway system.
Speaker 3: So whereabouts were you what's what building?
Speaker 22: I was in Thames and in tims coramanal Manicola, and
Speaker 22: I worked in a shop called a Court and Son,
Speaker 22: and it was it had four or five different departments
Speaker 22: means where ladies wear material, habitashery, and they all had that.
Speaker 22: They all had that little thing. You screw it up,
Speaker 22: fulled canister and it screwed up and then you pulled
Speaker 22: the cord and it went into the office where I sat.
Speaker 22: And they had a docket that came with the money,
Speaker 22: and you made sure that they'd added the docket up correctly,
Speaker 22: and then you put the change in the folded it
Speaker 22: all up in the docket and put it back in
Speaker 22: the canister and screwed it up and pulled the wire
Speaker 22: and it shot off to the department that came from.
Speaker 3: And just to clarify, was it on a pulley or
Speaker 3: was it a eumatic system?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 22: Police, it was on a police put the scud down
Speaker 22: and off it went like a rocket.
Speaker 3: And yet how was the canister?
Speaker 16: Hell?
Speaker 3: Was it clipped onto the system?
Speaker 22: No, it's screwed on and you unscrewed it.
Speaker 3: Okay, And how many different how many different tracks would
Speaker 3: be because each track had the same there in return
Speaker 3: one did it?
Speaker 22: Yeah, it had its own separate returns. So okay, they
Speaker 22: all came into the one. Only one could go at
Speaker 22: one time.
Speaker 5: But if you had a sale day, that's okay.
Speaker 20: They were going pretty fast.
Speaker 3: But how many different lines were coming in? Like half
Speaker 3: a dozen different lines coming in? Were there?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Four?
Speaker 5: Four okay, came in from each parts.
Speaker 22: Well, there was four departments from memory, and they came
Speaker 22: in a line coming from each the par artment they
Speaker 22: had a little little hole. The office sat up high
Speaker 22: and the little hole had a little cut out in
Speaker 22: the wall.
Speaker 5: And where it came for.
Speaker 22: It came in from that department.
Speaker 3: How was it powered?
Speaker 22: Yes, spring powered?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so it's just okay, So it was spring power.
Speaker 3: There's a pull that go ah okay.
Speaker 6: So it was pulled down and went like a rocket.
Speaker 22: Yeah, straight down to the to the department. And then
Speaker 22: that person unscrewed it and got the money out. Yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: Why why would they a thing? Was that because there
Speaker 3: were no cash registers in those days.
Speaker 22: Yeah, there was no cash register at each counter. No,
Speaker 22: that's how they operated it. The cash just came up.
Speaker 5: To the office.
Speaker 22: And yeah, you were responsible for giving back the correct
Speaker 22: change and making sure they had added the docket up
Speaker 22: in the first place correctly, and then you and it's
Speaker 22: that the money just went to that one department all day.
Speaker 3: Was the document handwritten, the docket.
Speaker 22: A carbon copied yep?
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 3: And how many of you in that little box up the.
Speaker 22: Top, A senior receptionist and me the junior wow.
Speaker 3: And times it would be quiet and times it would
Speaker 3: be flat out, I suppose.
Speaker 22: Yes, if you had a sale day it was flat out,
Speaker 22: but when it was quiet because the juniors would all
Speaker 22: be play up a bit and they'd seen spied as
Speaker 22: an awfut wrepped.
Speaker 3: Up in those of course they did. Vicky, are we
Speaker 3: talking Are we talking the nineteen sixties?
Speaker 22: No, yeah, very late sixties. I were there, but they
Speaker 22: had been operating for quite a while. There was another
Speaker 22: store in Teams at the time called Heatherington's and they
Speaker 22: also had the same system.
Speaker 3: Wow, fantastic, VICKI thank you so much. I've loved that
Speaker 3: more than you can imagine. I've got to bring those back.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for that. By the way. By
Speaker 3: the way, of course, a Ted West from Outrageous Fortune.
Speaker 3: They robbed Smith and Coey's well, they robbed the Juwel
Speaker 3: and next doraor of the Cougar ends remember, and Ted
Speaker 3: West wit inside for three years. John Marcus good evening, Hi,
Speaker 3: Hi John.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I worked for a company called I N. L and
Speaker 5: Lower Heart, and we had one of those vacuum tube
Speaker 5: things to send the corrections and bruce to the proof readers.
Speaker 5: We could an a plastic tube that had suck it
Speaker 5: up and you could hear it rattling away above your head.
Speaker 5: Then you could hear coming back deliver it to the
Speaker 5: who made the Friday flesh.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So you're you're a printing publisher, were you?
Speaker 5: I did the what it's called cold type yep, okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: And that was in nineteen eighty five and I left
Speaker 5: in eighty nine.
Speaker 3: Was it quite a complicated system with there a number
Speaker 3: of different routes?
Speaker 5: I think it was only maybe one maybe one more okay,
Speaker 5: the editor, but it was on a different floor and
Speaker 5: where's a fair walk?
Speaker 3: So all this, I guess is replaced by computer, so
Speaker 3: that all you're doing is saving you going back, because
Speaker 3: you'd be making a lot of trips each day, would you.
Speaker 5: We didn't make the ships ourselves, but I'm.
Speaker 3: Talking about if it wasn't, there'd be walking back and forward?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Was it reliable system that breakdown?
Speaker 23: Much?
Speaker 5: As far as I know, it seemed to be okay.
Speaker 5: But it was just funny to he hear them rattling,
Speaker 5: see him coming along when they hit a joint.
Speaker 3: It's a shame. Well, of course there is that one
Speaker 3: preserved in that cafe and Christ judge, but it seems
Speaker 3: that we should be doing more to preserve them. There
Speaker 3: needs to be a museum for them. Thank you for that.
Speaker 3: Seven from ten Good Evening Gaiale. Hello, it's Marcus, Welcome, Hi, no.
Speaker 10: Curse, how are you jing? I remained of the the
Speaker 10: system that you're talking about. They used to have one
Speaker 10: at a department store Core George and George in Newtown
Speaker 10: and Wellington.
Speaker 3: Oh, tell me more about that.
Speaker 10: Well, I was a young child at the time living
Speaker 10: in Newtown and that was the largest department store that
Speaker 10: we had, and it was right in a Newtown's school,
Speaker 10: primary school, and we used to go on there and
Speaker 10: they used to as one lady said, there were no
Speaker 10: such a as credit cards, so you think it had
Speaker 10: to be cash. So whenever you bought, the lady behind
Speaker 10: the counter would put the cash into the sort of
Speaker 10: trolley thing and then it would whizz off above your
Speaker 10: head really fast, which was quite frightening at times, because
Speaker 10: it just whizz that went from from where you would
Speaker 10: purchase your your goods to somewhere which is an office
Speaker 10: which is above your head, and and then they would
Speaker 10: put the change back of it and you'll come back again.
Speaker 10: So it was quite an interesting thing to watch as
Speaker 10: a child growing up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm amazed. They didn't just have cash registers.
Speaker 10: No, nothing like that either, not that I can remember.
Speaker 3: That mustn't have been. I can't quite work out why not,
Speaker 3: but that seems to you what they've done.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I was quite surprised that they had one.
Speaker 10: After listening to you tonight, I thought, I remember that
Speaker 10: a new Town of all places, and it was a
Speaker 10: department store called.
Speaker 5: George and George.
Speaker 3: What sort of stuff would they say? All sorts of.
Speaker 10: Goods, all sorts of things? I say, any any typical department.
Speaker 4: Store, you know.
Speaker 3: Look and looking at that, there's a there's a list
Speaker 3: of all the places they had that system. It's quite
Speaker 3: a long list of them. So thank you for that.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed that call. I appreciate that. And New Town
Speaker 3: get in touch. My name is Marcus. Welcome. We'll talk
Speaker 3: more about this after the news If you had to
Speaker 3: come through eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, I can
Speaker 3: tell you too that I have got some information through
Speaker 3: here that Frank Gibson Junior has died, extremely well known
Speaker 3: and acclaimed drummer. His wife has contacted the newsroom to
Speaker 3: say that it's with great sadness I let you know
Speaker 3: that my husband, the legendary drummer Frank Gibson Junior, has
Speaker 3: passed away today, so no doubt on audio culture and
Speaker 3: some of those other music websites there will be fairly
Speaker 3: deep dives into his career of probably seventy five years.
Speaker 3: I'd think I think luded his father's knee quite young there.
Speaker 3: So that's news that's through also too. So you might
Speaker 3: want to mention that the next hour we're here until
Speaker 3: midnight tonight, we are talking about the end of Smith
Speaker 3: and coey Zah and the aerial railways that were in
Speaker 3: some of those places. Someone said, Marcus Smister start this convo,
Speaker 3: but crazy to think that drive through banking in America
Speaker 3: is still done at this today with vacuum canisters sent
Speaker 3: to the tellers inside the bank. Marcu's got to bring
Speaker 3: the conversation back to Costco. Costco in the US, some
Speaker 3: of them still use the tube system. I've been at
Speaker 3: one in Los Angeles where they had the tube outlet
Speaker 3: at every register. I believe they would load the cash
Speaker 3: into the register begin of a person shift, and then
Speaker 3: close out the register there, fill up the tube and
Speaker 3: send it back from Tony. We are spending much time
Speaker 3: tonight looking and talking about cash railways. There seems to
Speaker 3: be five different systems ball, cable lifts, wire, anumatic tube.
Speaker 3: There's good websites. It's obviously obsessives that kind of follow
Speaker 3: them all and look for photos. It's quite fascinating. I
Speaker 3: haven't quite yet really understand understood the point of all
Speaker 3: of them, but I presume it was because they couldn't
Speaker 3: have tills. Well, they didn't trust their staff. I'm not
Speaker 3: quite sure which is which. I don't know. Someone might
Speaker 3: know more about this, Someone might work the benefits of
Speaker 3: a centralized cashste whether it could be more closely supervised
Speaker 3: by management. There was less opportunity for pilfering, and it
Speaker 3: freed up their assistant to attend to the customer, perhaps
Speaker 3: make further or better sales. There we go, just like that.
Speaker 3: Good evening, David Marcus, welcome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi Marcus, good evening.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I worked for the company that in fact invented, manufactured
Speaker 2: and installed those wire systems and the tube systems. The
Speaker 2: wire system was called rapid wire, and that was in
Speaker 2: the old department stores, as you were talking about, and
Speaker 2: then when that became sort of supersededs. If you like
Speaker 2: the tube system come in and they were manufactured by
Speaker 2: a company called Lampson Paragon, which was an English company
Speaker 2: and had branches in different parts of the world, and
Speaker 2: in New Zealand of Australia, the company was called Lampson
Speaker 2: Paragon and the tube systems were installed by part of
Speaker 2: that company called Mamson Engineering. And there were many many
Speaker 2: tube systems throughout New Zealand, but one of the more
Speaker 2: recent developments of that tube system was at twy point
Speaker 2: and what they used to do there in the smelter,
Speaker 2: they would put samples of the smeltered aluminium into a
Speaker 2: tube and shoot it across the road to the laboratory
Speaker 2: to be tested. And that was the best and most
Speaker 2: efficient way to get it from a very hot environment
Speaker 2: to a laboratory type environment. And they used the choose
Speaker 2: system to do that, and that was probably one of
Speaker 2: the more it's going way back many years, but it
Speaker 2: was probably one of the last systems that were installed.
Speaker 3: IDA should reach there because at t y today, so
Speaker 3: did that require a special cannister to put the hot
Speaker 3: sample in.
Speaker 2: Yes, they're DIAD, but the system was the same in
Speaker 2: terms of instiding it into the tube system itself and
Speaker 2: then the system that then superseded dat was one called
Speaker 2: tele lift, and the telelift was a more electronically controlled
Speaker 2: and it used to go up inside building. So the
Speaker 2: mail would all come into the bottom of a high
Speaker 2: rise building and the mail would be sorted in the
Speaker 2: mail room and put into these telelift systems, and then
Speaker 2: you'd hit the button and I'd go on a railway
Speaker 2: system up inside the infrastructure of the building and pop
Speaker 2: out on the fifth floor, the tenth boor the thirtieth
Speaker 2: or whatever and deliver the mail to whatever that company
Speaker 2: was on that floor. So that was the development after
Speaker 2: the Tude system.
Speaker 3: So tell me a bit more about that.
Speaker 6: What was that?
Speaker 3: Was that wired driven or how was that powered?
Speaker 2: I think that not one hundred percent said that. It
Speaker 2: was only like a little railway line gripped.
Speaker 3: They gripped under the right understand.
Speaker 2: It would go up. It would go up vertically up
Speaker 2: inside the building, if you like. And then they have
Speaker 2: a like a gimbal type system like they have on
Speaker 2: ships yep, so that the Telly lift would remain equal.
Speaker 2: And they used it also in hospitals for delivering blood
Speaker 2: samples and things like that between floors and high roads
Speaker 2: hospital setups.
Speaker 3: So did any places. Did any places have that system
Speaker 3: in New Zealand?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 3: Yes? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, yes, lots of them. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a big It was a big operation. I
Speaker 2: mean I eventually did at a time as CEO of
Speaker 2: what was then Lambson Paragon English company sold out to
Speaker 2: an American company called More and it was called More
Speaker 2: Business Systems and they changed their name that it was
Speaker 2: and More took over the English company Lambson Paragon. But
Speaker 2: it's a really old old company.
Speaker 3: Could you tell me some of the name of the
Speaker 3: could you tell me some of the name of the
Speaker 3: buildings that had that later system? No, I can't because
Speaker 3: I remember when I remember my mother was at UCLAM Hostel,
Speaker 3: that main big tall building overlooking the domain. There was
Speaker 3: a lance and tube system and that that they used
Speaker 3: to send samples around. So that must have that looked
Speaker 3: like it was a building that was built in the
Speaker 3: sixties or the seventies. That very much ad that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and the Lambs and the Telly rift was
Speaker 2: more for not for cash or anything like that. It
Speaker 2: was more for mail delivery inside high rise building. So
Speaker 2: that was that's why that was Belding and it would
Speaker 2: come out through the wall through a fire fire doors
Speaker 2: would open and the tellylypt system would pop out of
Speaker 2: the wall, if you like. Quite quite fascinating.
Speaker 3: And that would have been a suit by emails, I presume,
Speaker 3: would that be right? So that would have gone right
Speaker 3: into the nineties. I presume.
Speaker 2: Yes, it would have, Yes, yep, right through to then yep.
Speaker 3: And and David with the wire system you talk about
Speaker 3: that was lampsun as well.
Speaker 6: Was that was that?
Speaker 3: That was that was electric? That wasn't just spring operated
Speaker 3: or was it spring operated?
Speaker 2: Spring operated? They pulled the cord, they'd reach up above them,
Speaker 2: clip the docket in a little pouch, clip it to
Speaker 2: the wire, and then pull the cord and it would
Speaker 2: shoot across at great speed up to the cashier's office,
Speaker 2: and then they'd deal with it there, put the change
Speaker 2: in and then put it back up again, pulled the
Speaker 2: cord and shoot it back to the cashier that it
Speaker 2: came from, to give back to the customer of their change.
Speaker 2: And because that someone had mentioned of on the emails,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry on the text before that that was just
Speaker 2: a security thing really in terms of that way you
Speaker 2: only had one or two people handing the cash in
Speaker 2: what can be quite a big store, or you'd have
Speaker 2: more than two.
Speaker 3: And would that would that have wheels vertically on top
Speaker 3: of the wire? Is that how they ran along the wire?
Speaker 2: No, the wire moved so or not one hundred percent
Speaker 2: certain about that, actually, Marcus. And just remember that was
Speaker 2: a bit before my time.
Speaker 3: I can't understand it.
Speaker 2: In terms of the ticklar. I was more involved in
Speaker 2: the tube system.
Speaker 3: Just a big was it just a big compressed guess
Speaker 3: tank that would fire it all?
Speaker 2: No? No, it was you see it today in internal
Speaker 2: vacuum cleaning systems inside houses and buildings, you know when
Speaker 2: you might plug your vacuum cleaner into a little hole
Speaker 2: in the wall. Yes, that that was also installed by
Speaker 2: in later years, installed by Lamps and Paragon which became
Speaker 2: more Paragon, same technology. So you'd have a just like
Speaker 2: a gigantic section. It's like a vacuum cleaner.
Speaker 3: So that wouldn't that would have Yeah, that makes that
Speaker 3: makes sense. Okay, that makes perfect sense of to suck
Speaker 3: it through. And they'd be quite tight in the tube,
Speaker 3: wouldn't they.
Speaker 2: Yes, they would. It had a sort of a tube
Speaker 2: with say maybe three hundred million long, and when you
Speaker 2: put it into the tube. It was quite a snug fit. Yes,
Speaker 2: so that it would, you know, the vacuum would suck
Speaker 2: it through the tube system.
Speaker 3: Is there's still one working, and there's still a Cafeine
Speaker 3: Christ that has a lens and system work that does
Speaker 3: Spencer's food and it's quite successful.
Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. And the other one they used to have,
Speaker 2: of course, was the I'm just trying to think of
Speaker 2: the name now, the dumb waiter.
Speaker 6: Oh, yep, you know that was also.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think that that would have been
Speaker 2: invented by by Lambsons, but they certainly installed them.
Speaker 3: When did this? When did they stop using it at
Speaker 3: t Y? Was that during your time?
Speaker 2: I don't know that they've ever stopped. I can't answer that.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me if it's still operating.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got mates that work there. I'll find out, David.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was yeah, and just see if if
Speaker 2: it's still if it still works, I think from memory,
Speaker 2: I never saw it operate. I don't know whether it
Speaker 2: went under the road or on a tube going across
Speaker 2: the road.
Speaker 3: If you like, I'll report back, David. Look, thank you.
Speaker 3: That was more than I could hopeful with your as
Speaker 3: a call, I mean a city with a fondable knowledge
Speaker 3: with the GMS. I appreciate that greatly. Thank you. Ten
Speaker 3: nineteen Good evening, Daniel.
Speaker 18: Could I Matt, I'll tell you a friend, good Daniel,
Speaker 18: you know trip down Memory Lane? Because she is I
Speaker 18: used to watch it a wood On and it was
Speaker 18: probably Born. It was Matte before born. I'm five years
Speaker 18: from fifty. But there's some characters in me and where
Speaker 18: she's very tame with people. But what he Harrison, he
Speaker 18: was a Kno, there were a few in the phraser
Speaker 18: crane he and then he went on to make his
Speaker 18: own show. Remember, so he made his own show doctor phrases,
Speaker 18: phrases Grant they were in me is tousey Ellen. She
Speaker 18: was in there for w O. But then did Danton
Speaker 18: headed out a given? I think her name was Hilly Long's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because he was Whatdy Harrelson wasn't and originally
Speaker 3: was he. There was another guy there that was the
Speaker 3: seecond in command.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think you come along later on.
Speaker 2: What was normOn?
Speaker 3: What was Norm's job?
Speaker 5: What was normal?
Speaker 2: Mate?
Speaker 18: Next time? Well he was the post poster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we never know what Norm did? Would we.
Speaker 18: No, no, never, you seed what his gob was. But
Speaker 18: he always sitting in the bar and sit at the
Speaker 18: mate the posty, and you know, and I remember that
Speaker 18: it was over they had the fire and the bar
Speaker 18: got burnt to christ and a lot well and they
Speaker 18: all come and said, no, we're going to help the rebullet.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll talk more about that tonight, Daniel. But thank
Speaker 3: you for that, Susan. It's Marcus. Good evening, Oh, good evening, Marcus.
Speaker 24: I was prompted to call by the lady who grew
Speaker 24: up in Newtown and was talking about Newtown and Wellington,
Speaker 24: and she remembers the George and George store next door
Speaker 24: to the Newtown School. Well I grew up in Colburnie,
Speaker 24: which is just next suburb over after after Newtown, heading
Speaker 24: towards the airport, and we had a George and George
Speaker 24: in the little village of shops in Kilburnie. Oh, and
Speaker 24: I remember exactly what you're talking about. I was fascinated
Speaker 24: as a child watching these people take they'd unscrew a
Speaker 24: little barrel it's like only about the size of your hand,
Speaker 24: it seemed like an adult hand, and they'd unscrew it
Speaker 24: off the wire above them and they'd clip the money
Speaker 24: and the account whatever you'd bought, and clip it back
Speaker 24: up and then pull the cord above them, which was
Speaker 24: attached to the wire, I think, and it zoomed off
Speaker 24: at great speed, and the office was upstairs. You could
Speaker 24: see the office because it was semi open, and so
Speaker 24: there was a whole network of wires all over the store.
Speaker 24: And as a child, I was fascinated that there weren't
Speaker 24: any crashes.
Speaker 5: On the line.
Speaker 3: I think you're conveying it, well, then, am I that's
Speaker 3: my sentiments exactly? Chaosity Roof didn't that it was chaos.
Speaker 24: And then I think there was a bell or something
Speaker 24: that went bing like this, and you know, you'd think, oh, yes,
Speaker 24: another one's gone off or something like that, and then
Speaker 24: you'd be waiting down there by the counter, waiting or
Speaker 24: winds that come to come back. And if it was
Speaker 24: a busy time, of course there'd be quite a delay.
Speaker 24: I don't know how many people were working up in
Speaker 24: the office, but it only looked like two or three
Speaker 24: people up there. But this is a memory from when
Speaker 24: I was about four, because I would walk up to
Speaker 24: Kilburnie with my mother and we would go there to
Speaker 24: buy our underwear, our blouses. Mother would buy the sewing, habdasherie,
Speaker 24: cottons and things like that. They'd be women's clothes with
Speaker 24: their men's clothes, boys clothes, hats and gloves and that
Speaker 24: kind of thing. It was not two story, it was
Speaker 24: just one level. Now that store, I don't know what
Speaker 24: it became after. It was George and George I cannot
Speaker 24: quite remember. But now it's a funeral home called part
Speaker 24: of the Harbor City chain, and a very nice funeral
Speaker 24: home now too. But the funny thing I find quite amusing.
Speaker 24: It's right opposite a retirement home called Rita Angus, and
Speaker 24: on beside it, this is in Colbernie, Wellington, there is
Speaker 24: the Westpac Bank, a very big branch of the Westpac Bank.
Speaker 24: So you're sitting, if you're sitting on that side of
Speaker 24: the retirement home, you just look out the window to
Speaker 24: the place that's going to take your money, the bank,
Speaker 24: and then the other place you're going to deposit the
Speaker 24: money into when you go is the funeral home. Of course,
Speaker 24: behind it is a little chimney spire. You can see
Speaker 24: within with somebody's cremated. You can see little puff of
Speaker 24: smoke go up every so often, I think that's right
Speaker 24: in opposite on the corner, because this goes to the
Speaker 24: end of the street, and on the corner of the
Speaker 24: next street there is the chapel. I think if I
Speaker 24: went to that home, I'd rather be on the other
Speaker 24: side looking out at some people's houses in a place
Speaker 24: where I'm going next kind of thing. But I do
Speaker 24: remember the store very very well. It has lovely window displays,
Speaker 24: and I remembered going there to get my college uniform.
Speaker 24: And I went to Wellington News Girls College and mother
Speaker 24: made my uniform because the parents were given a pattern
Speaker 24: if they were a sewer.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's gone, hasn't You couldn't get a patent anymore, could?
Speaker 3: That's amazing to hear.
Speaker 24: Oh well, my mother was a dress maker dress designer,
Speaker 24: so she could draft her own patterns. But the thing
Speaker 24: was that you had to buy your raincoat there. And
Speaker 24: I'm quite short, while my mother was short, didn't make
Speaker 24: five foot and unfortunately never did I for eleven and
Speaker 24: three w inches. And of course when I was I
Speaker 24: was growing quite normally as a child, just slightly below
Speaker 24: average maybe or average some years. And of course mother
Speaker 24: looked at this raincoat wall Garbadine. We had to have
Speaker 24: a great, big, heavy thing. I hated heavy clothes. I
Speaker 24: just couldn't stand heavy clothes or heavy shoes. And the
Speaker 24: regulation school shoes were great, heavy clumping things, and I
Speaker 24: just hated getting into them. And so mother thinks, oh, well,
Speaker 24: children do have a gross spurt in teenage life. So
Speaker 24: she bought me an extra long raincoat.
Speaker 3: It should be hopeing than her spring up.
Speaker 19: Yeah.
Speaker 24: My father was about five foot eleven and tall and broad.
Speaker 24: He was from the Shetland, so good Viking and Scottish stock,
Speaker 24: And of course she assumed I would, you know, grow
Speaker 24: some more. My seat kept growing, kept going up as
Speaker 24: shoe size, and I was ever hopeful as a teenager,
Speaker 24: and I'd say to my mother, well, I'm definitely going
Speaker 24: to grow because my body's getting the base a little
Speaker 24: bit longer to deal with the upright, you know, the
Speaker 24: shooting upright and going a few more inches. But no,
Speaker 24: I never made the great achievement I wanted to make
Speaker 24: was to be over five foot. But the sunny thing
Speaker 24: is everybody thinks I'm about five foot three because I.
Speaker 15: Had all I do.
Speaker 24: Well, I don't think I'm sure you sound. I think
Speaker 24: I'm me just a normal height.
Speaker 3: Now, hang, are we stuck wearing that John Gavitten coat
Speaker 3: your whole time? Yes?
Speaker 24: And it was so heavy, and Mum put in a
Speaker 24: hem probably about ten inches, you know, because she was
Speaker 24: a dressmaker, she could take it up. So of course
Speaker 24: it was a coat with this big hem, and I
Speaker 24: just felt like I was sinking into the ground with
Speaker 24: the clumping shoes and then this heavy raincoat. I just
Speaker 24: hated it when it rained. And because when I was
Speaker 24: a child at primary school, mother made me beautiful little
Speaker 24: plastic raincoats. I had a white one with red and
Speaker 24: gold spots on it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 24: I was always dressed like a little model because she
Speaker 24: would see fashions overseas and she could draft her own patterns.
Speaker 24: So I went from that to the heavy raincoat and
Speaker 24: the heavy walk And was she restrained?
Speaker 3: Was she restrained with the Wellington Girl's uniform? Did she
Speaker 3: follow the patent or did she put her own flourishes
Speaker 3: into it?
Speaker 24: It was very meticulous and she and she made that fine.
Speaker 24: I didn't have a great big hem on that because
Speaker 24: she knew she could make it the next year if
Speaker 24: I grew But of course I just had the same
Speaker 24: uniform all the way through because I never woman will grew.
Speaker 10: But never mind.
Speaker 24: I've enjoyed life. But I do vaguely remember that when
Speaker 24: we went to get the school uniform there the raincoat,
Speaker 24: I vaguely remember. I don't know if my memory serves
Speaker 24: me correctly, but I thought they had those big silver
Speaker 24: embossed tools. I see that image. I know when I
Speaker 24: went to Diic downtown in Wellington on Lampton Key, I
Speaker 24: remember the big silver embossed tools there. But I think
Speaker 24: the IC when we were children, I think that had
Speaker 24: the wire system as well. So, but great memories of
Speaker 24: walking up to Colbernie on a Friday night with Dad
Speaker 24: or Mum and watching the Salvation Army playing their songs
Speaker 24: and the ladies with their bonnets and the tambourines with
Speaker 24: the colored ribbons on, and Dad would meet his Shetland mates.
Speaker 24: Then we'd be all standing around, and I'd be standing
Speaker 24: there listening to adult conversation. It was all good and
Speaker 24: excuse me clean. And of course all these men had
Speaker 24: a Shetland accent, so I was quite used to listening
Speaker 24: to their bro their Shetland accents, and I could understand
Speaker 24: what they were saying because my dad had the same accent.
Speaker 24: And they were always very jolly men. And a lot
Speaker 24: of the Shetlanders settled in Island Bay where the Italians settled,
Speaker 24: and the Shetlanders and the Italians they fished together. And
Speaker 24: I was told by an Italian lady that the Shetlanders
Speaker 24: taught the Italians the long line of fishing system.
Speaker 3: That was okay, I'm just going to cover with It's
Speaker 3: been absolutely fascinating. What a pleasure has been to talk to.
Speaker 3: I'm right on headlines, but wow, gosh, you've got some
Speaker 3: great things to say. And thank you so very much
Speaker 3: for that good evening, Zeta, welcome, Thank.
Speaker 19: You, Marcus. I'd like to talk about my first memory
Speaker 19: of Smith and Coe great That was in nineteen thirty
Speaker 19: two and I was four and my mother took me
Speaker 19: to buy brown leather gloves for the winter. Quite a procedure.
Speaker 19: I was on a high stool with a backing, my
Speaker 19: elbow was put on a velvet cushion. All the gloves
Speaker 19: was kept in long narrow drawers the wedding gloves. The
Speaker 19: gloves were going to the races and so on, and
Speaker 19: each pair was wrapped in white tissue. So my brown
Speaker 19: mather gloves were brought out and the lady stretched each
Speaker 19: finger was some sort of stretch of thing, and first
Speaker 19: of all the thumb was put on. Then each finger
Speaker 19: was smoothed down lovingly by the sales person. And all
Speaker 19: the time I was watching the money flying over my
Speaker 19: head going up to the glass office where I could
Speaker 19: see the girls on the next floor. But getting back
Speaker 19: to the gloves, each finger, as I said, was smoothed
Speaker 19: on and finally buttoned with a little glass brown button
Speaker 19: at the wrist. And my mother bought the gloves. And
Speaker 19: that is my first memory of Smith and che.
Speaker 3: Wow and it all. Did children have gloves in those days?
Speaker 3: I suppose they did?
Speaker 19: Oh, of course, dressed up to go to town. And
Speaker 19: then I'd like to talk about Gibson. Frank Gibson, the drummer, Yes,
Speaker 19: thank you. I don't know if it was Frank or
Speaker 19: Don Gibson who played at the Peter Pan in Ruhlm
Speaker 19: Street in my heyday when we went almost every Saturday night,
Speaker 19: Nancy Harry on piano, Don or Frank Gibson on drums,
Speaker 19: and Tommy Andle on bass, and sometimes Mavis Rivers sang.
Speaker 19: And those were great days.
Speaker 3: Now, could you just remind me, because it's kind of
Speaker 3: beyond my days. The peter Pan was where Rutland Street. Okay,
Speaker 3: copy that, yep, and then it moves Rutland Street in
Speaker 3: the city.
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, and this will be in the sixtieshow it's
Speaker 19: very sad about Smith and Kewey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is the fifties or the sixties for
Speaker 3: the peter Pan. Oh, late forties, Okay, I understand, yep.
Speaker 19: Yes, I got married in fifty two, so we were
Speaker 19: going to the peter Pan regularly before that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the line up there and I think
Speaker 3: that certainly was Frank Gibson that was there at that one.
Speaker 3: But I'll do some more research on that, Zeta. But look,
Speaker 3: that's a tremendous call, and thank you very much for that.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 15: Julie.
Speaker 16: Hello, in a very good evening, and what an interesting
Speaker 16: program is.
Speaker 3: It's dangerously interesting tonight.
Speaker 16: Well, extremely the previous previous lady so that she was
Speaker 16: extremely interesting. But I was raised in Martin and we
Speaker 16: had Martin, the farmers co op and Martin and they
Speaker 16: had the wire system and I used to be fascinated
Speaker 16: how they could put the little They were wooden, the
Speaker 16: little containers were wooden. And they would put the money
Speaker 16: in the containers and put the docket underneath and zips.
Speaker 16: She pulled her like a handle and it was spring
Speaker 16: loaded and shot up to the office. But I don't
Speaker 16: know if they had to do it on the way back.
Speaker 16: It just came down naturally, I think. But Martin Farmer's
Speaker 16: co Op they had everything from men's clothes right out
Speaker 16: to the back where you could buy fencing wire and
Speaker 16: wheat for the chicks. And it was a really, really big,
Speaker 16: fascinating strat I used to love going there and get
Speaker 16: my gum boots. When I got my first pere gum
Speaker 16: boots there, Dad took me in there and with all
Speaker 16: these just all you could name it. It was there,
Speaker 16: from hammers to saws to then out the front was
Speaker 16: all the ladies where and and the men's where was
Speaker 16: on the right hand side, I remember, and the ladies
Speaker 16: where it was on the left hand side. And many
Speaker 16: years later my friend Katie Island she worked in the
Speaker 16: women's there. But it was a fascinating store and a
Speaker 16: big store for a little place like Martin.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I guess Martin was a berg supply town for a
Speaker 3: big cultural area. I guess a.
Speaker 16: Roundabout, Oh absolutely, And the Salvation Army always stood out
Speaker 16: there on a Friday night, and the man would stand
Speaker 16: out there and preach whether it was raining or snowing
Speaker 16: or whatever. And they played their organs, sing their songs.
Speaker 16: And at Christmas time they used to bring a big tree,
Speaker 16: a big fir tree, pine tree, and stick it up
Speaker 16: in the middle of the road that was strapped to
Speaker 16: the post office and to the hotel on the corner
Speaker 16: and story, and we in New Year's New Year's Eve,
Speaker 16: everybody gathered around the tree to see the new year
Speaker 16: and fabulous town. You're still there, yes, yes, you can
Speaker 16: hear me.
Speaker 3: He's still in Martin.
Speaker 16: You're still am I still in Martin? No, I live now.
Speaker 16: I live across the river in the in the Range
Speaker 16: River Valley.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're not far from there.
Speaker 16: Yeah, no, I can see the station lights at night.
Speaker 3: I don't really know much about Martin. It's kind of
Speaker 3: not a town. It's not a town you actually end
Speaker 3: up and by excident, is it you did?
Speaker 16: It have to be an accident, but you know, if.
Speaker 3: You're going Auckland to Wellington, you do drive that. It
Speaker 3: appears to me. I mean it's on the railway line
Speaker 3: is it, but not on the railway.
Speaker 16: The railway always went through it. You could catch the
Speaker 16: train to go to Wellington or to Auckland, however, and
Speaker 16: I can remember in those days trains were fascinating with
Speaker 16: all the different kinds of carriages. Now they're boring as heck,
Speaker 16: they're just all containers, yes.
Speaker 3: Oh they are. That's I don't know if you could
Speaker 3: you would the train. Would the train stop at Martin anymore? Yes,
Speaker 3: the person I don't.
Speaker 16: Think the passenger train does. But it was a huge,
Speaker 16: huge junction yard for all those years ago. There was
Speaker 16: cattle yards and sheep yards. And I've never heard of
Speaker 16: the train actually stopping there at all, but it just
Speaker 16: goes through. But if there is still some quite heavy
Speaker 16: industry in Martin, but nowhere near.
Speaker 3: Life it used to be what would do you know
Speaker 3: what the popular? Is the population static increasing? Or would
Speaker 3: it be five thousand or two thousand?
Speaker 16: Oh, she would be I just bought a house there,
Speaker 16: but it's probably about three and a half thousand, I think, yeah,
Speaker 16: but fascinating little place in a very friendly little town.
Speaker 3: Can Set's friend Too far from the sea for me, Judy,
Speaker 3: I reckond but lovely to talk to. Thank you. Also
Speaker 3: talking about Norm from Cheers, Marcus Good Evening, Parmeston North
Speaker 3: Hospital used a system like you were talking about, a
Speaker 3: solinitude system where it put paperwork into descend towards approximately
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. Oh Dan, do you know what Norm did
Speaker 3: for a living? Someone said Norm previously saved the United
Speaker 3: States Coast Guard, though and earlyerpretad his state he had
Speaker 3: been in the Army. He loses his job in an
Speaker 3: accounting firm by defending Diane from his boss. After strugging
Speaker 3: for a few years an independent accountant, eventually becomes a
Speaker 3: house painter. His wife was Vera, but of course they
Speaker 3: pretty much lived apart because she was never there or
Speaker 3: she had never appeared on episode you heard his voice,
Speaker 3: you heard her voice, Vera's voice once voiced by Norm's
Speaker 3: real wife, but did also film the movie Never Say
Speaker 3: Die in New Zealand. That's also true. But that's a
Speaker 3: situation with Norm from Cheers. I don't know if he
Speaker 3: had as sooner. I'll look at his Wikipedia page now, people,
Speaker 3: Norm Peterson, yes, a fictional character.
Speaker 23: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I for his typecast. I don't know if he did
Speaker 3: much work after that. Quite good Norm's entrance into the
Speaker 3: bar as a running gag on Cheers, typically beginning with
Speaker 3: a greeting by Norm, usually afternoon or evening. Everybody. This
Speaker 3: is followed by the car the bar crowd getting his name,
Speaker 3: except Diane, who would allowed them follow them with a
Speaker 3: more refined Norman. Afterwards, someone usually Sam, Coach or Woody,
Speaker 3: will ask how Norman is doing and what he'd like
Speaker 3: to order. Norman's respond with what he remarked frequently about
Speaker 3: his life In Orders to Bear. Normans also greeted it
Speaker 3: on the customary Norms shout at other locations, looking a
Speaker 3: bowling Alley, the Hungry Heifer, Gary's, Old Town teven. When
Speaker 3: Sam asks why people at Gary's know him by the name,
Speaker 3: Norm replies that he goes there on Christmas when cheese
Speaker 3: is closed. A running gag in the series is following
Speaker 3: commercial for the bartender to ask Norm if he wants
Speaker 3: the other bear. Normal replies one quick one, after which
Speaker 3: he inevitably stays a bit longer. Oh, it's it's a
Speaker 3: good Wikipedia page. That one. There we go. Norm's wife
Speaker 3: is offer mentioned, but her face is never seen. When
Speaker 3: she has finally showed her faces covered in a pie
Speaker 3: thrown by Diane, and the actress is uncredited. The only
Speaker 3: time she has seen viewers can see only her legs,
Speaker 3: and one time her waving from a car when she
Speaker 3: drives past chairs on her fifteenth winning anniversary. Vera is
Speaker 3: the butt of many of Norman's jokes, but on many
Speaker 3: occasions Normous professed secretly an undying love for his wife
Speaker 3: or defended her honor. He also refused to cheat on
Speaker 3: her in the episode Normal's Book Ordered, when a female
Speaker 3: IRIS agent was prepared to overlook his text evasion. If
Speaker 3: he did, there we go. I don't know what he
Speaker 3: did after that, by the way, was on sound elsewhere,
Speaker 3: but didn't do much, I don't think, but did appear
Speaker 3: in the movie Never Say Die. Thing was called, by
Speaker 3: the way the cultural reference. In the Simpsons episode Flaming Mo's,
Speaker 3: Barney Gamble walks into the news success from Popular Mos
Speaker 3: to be greeted with a friendly cry of Barney, which
Speaker 3: chatirizes Norm's entrance. When a bartender similar to Woody asks
Speaker 3: him how he is doing, he boops in response, we
Speaker 3: are talking about Smith and Coey's and also Norm from chairs.
Speaker 3: Smith and Curry's is no longer a thing. Well, I mean,
Speaker 3: they've said today that they that's it, they're closing that down.
Speaker 3: So that's one of the things we are talking about.
Speaker 3: But mainly we're talking about the communication system in the
Speaker 3: department stores with the pneumatic pipes and the aerial railways,
Speaker 3: which is kind of kind of remarkable and I'm not
Speaker 3: quite sure what happened that everyone got rid of them.
Speaker 3: There are ways to actually oversee staff and pilfering. But anyway,
Speaker 3: when the last one is still be running in New
Speaker 3: Zealand was someone probably will know. That's what we are
Speaker 3: talking about tonight. Keep those texts and coming through your
Speaker 3: contributions if there's been some sensational calls tonight, So thanks
Speaker 3: for everyone. There's been discussion about Frank Gibson Junior who
Speaker 3: has died today, and I will read what someone has
Speaker 3: sent through to me from Audio Culture, which is the
Speaker 3: very good music Facebook page and website. It'll just take
Speaker 3: me a short time. No name in New Zealand is
Speaker 3: more synonymous with drumming than Frank Gibson. Frank Senior was
Speaker 3: one of our great band leaders and drumm edicatas, and
Speaker 3: from his earliest years Frank Junior followed in his footsteps.
Speaker 3: Today we lost Frank Gibson Junior, which leaves a huge
Speaker 3: hole in our music community. One of the great images
Speaker 3: of our musical culture is nine year old Frank on
Speaker 3: stage at Auckland Town Hall in nineteen fifty four pounding
Speaker 3: out a rhythm with his dad. It's posted here. He
Speaker 3: was so proud of that. Frank was larger than live.
Speaker 3: Generations of drummers were taught and inspired by both father
Speaker 3: and son. It's hard to overstate the loss to us
Speaker 3: all as Frank Junior was and is both loved and respected.
Speaker 3: Our thoughts are with his family and so many friends.
Speaker 3: Rest well, Frank, you were one of a kind. He's
Speaker 3: a good text. Marcus. I know you have some flexibility
Speaker 3: with topics on a Friday, but I won't be able
Speaker 3: to listen Friday night this week. Do you think MH
Speaker 3: three seventy, John Bono Ramsey, he was only at Keller
Speaker 3: and medline Ken will ever be sold? Love the show mate, Marcus.
Speaker 3: Remember the Wellington years ago and onedon years ago. Cocolian
Speaker 3: stains ds and James Smith had lamps and tube systems.
Speaker 3: Also ce one Cafe christ Church now olivers hamburgers By
Speaker 3: lamps and tube system. That's what we have talked about
Speaker 3: that it's very good too. Kids love it. Marcus. I
Speaker 3: remember a book transport system when the National Library of
Speaker 3: New Zealand opening ninetety seven. Suitcases were on tracks, on
Speaker 3: ceilings and up walls around the building. But I can't
Speaker 3: remember anything about it. Can't for anything about it. Hey,
Speaker 3: list is timoth they remember it? Or am I going? Man?
Speaker 3: This is the National Library of New Zealand. I worked
Speaker 3: at Valentine's in the mid sixties and the sanctioned department
Speaker 3: of the office, the countisate was received by the kasher
Speaker 3: and forwarded to me to approve that the buy had
Speaker 3: an accountant on a file system. The docket was stamped
Speaker 3: to prove returned via the cashier again to the department
Speaker 3: received from initially wouldn't trust Nikola wills not to means
Speaker 3: test the pensioners. The contrition the contribution of finances from
Speaker 3: the boomers will be able to help us all plus
Speaker 3: can pay for the rising costs. Everyone should have to pay.
Speaker 3: Countdown New Brighton still post COVID had a vacuum tube
Speaker 3: that sent the till float end of the day report
Speaker 3: up to the office. Not sure if it's still there
Speaker 3: since the refurbishment. That's from Zane Marcus, HJJ Smith and
Speaker 3: Verkargill had the system in every department Magic to watch
Speaker 3: what year would have it ended? Maggie, Maggie Marcus, thank
Speaker 3: you for your show every night. My mother had an accountant,
Speaker 3: George and George and Winnington and shop there regularly for
Speaker 3: numerous things. We kids loved watching the cannisters shoot along
Speaker 3: the wire. It's all very good now called the suction system.
Speaker 3: Marcus went to farmers in Bayfair Mountain Monganui today, the
Speaker 3: closest to the old department stores. Feber Service walked out
Speaker 3: with lipstick and lipliner one forty dollars. Shouted to the
Speaker 3: woman that Serby wasn't intending to spend that much, but
Speaker 3: his service inspired me. Susie Marcus, Google aircom dot com.
Speaker 3: Are you they still specialize in EU medic tube delivery.
Speaker 3: I worked for PC common Beck in the seventies. We
Speaker 3: had the canisters and chew powered by air. We sent
Speaker 3: job cards for the money of the office and the
Speaker 3: days returned the change with the seats wong and we
Speaker 3: had London Town d C Mcgruers and Mackenzie's Harry.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hello there, Marcus. How are you doing good?
Speaker 3: Thanks Harry, Oh it's good.
Speaker 5: This in college and in Cunningham's Farmers the North was
Speaker 5: mentioned before. Yes, sisters always joined the radio show. I
Speaker 5: went to work for Farmers who took over the Collinson
Speaker 5: in Cunningham's building and we renovate. They renovated the building
Speaker 5: and inside all the under all the tiles, the roof tiles,
Speaker 5: ceiling tiles and so on. There was a full vacuum
Speaker 5: tube system up to the office that they had in
Speaker 5: the sixties. There was also there was also traces of
Speaker 5: much earlier which looked like it might have been a
Speaker 5: cable system that went through the building as well to
Speaker 5: the cash office. But definitely it had a vacuum system.
Speaker 3: They just shut it off with the fall ceiling. Today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they shut it all off with the It was
Speaker 5: all covered over with the ceiling. And then Farmers in
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty seven eighty eight renovated the building and they
Speaker 5: tore opened and of course they couldn't do anything. Immediately,
Speaker 5: the guy stuck his head up under the tois. He
Speaker 5: came back down. He said, we won't be working this today.
Speaker 5: It was all asbestos. It was sprayed on there and
Speaker 5: so they had to shut there. We had to work
Speaker 5: in the conditions where they were dealing with the isbest
Speaker 5: or in one half of the store. Well we worked
Speaker 5: and sold stuff on the other half. I was fairly
Speaker 5: new to the company at the time. But the history
Speaker 5: that send that was in the Collinson and Cunningham building
Speaker 5: was unbelievable history. And it had tracks all the way
Speaker 5: back to the early nineteen hundreds. And the fantastic Christmas
Speaker 5: cave that they had down underneath the building was Oh,
Speaker 5: it was just absolute magic. I watched people for eighteen
Speaker 5: years and go down there, old people come out in
Speaker 5: tears after taking their grandchildren and great grandchildren down. Absolutely amazing.
Speaker 5: That can all be found at the Tea to Manawan
Speaker 5: Museum now, but it's all walked away. They bring it
Speaker 5: out in October or November for Christmas.
Speaker 4: But it was a.
Speaker 3: Fabulous They've got the grotto, have they.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've got part of They've got large parts of
Speaker 5: the grotto that they that they're rescued quite a bit
Speaker 5: of and they they set things up for Christmas at
Speaker 5: to Manua, And from what I understand, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 5: I've only seen I got to look in the door
Speaker 5: where they had an old stored about four years ago.
Speaker 5: But I haven't actually seen it because I live up
Speaker 5: in New Plymouth now. But I'm definitely going down there
Speaker 5: this Christmas, and I'm definitely going to go and set
Speaker 5: on the wee roundabout?
Speaker 3: Think definitely what's the roundabout?
Speaker 6: The little there's a.
Speaker 5: Little round about, a pedal round about that they have
Speaker 5: and oh it's a it's a very very old one,
Speaker 5: very mcare.
Speaker 3: Is that from the is that from the department store?
Speaker 5: That's from the department store cave Christmas cave they had.
Speaker 5: They had a train set down there. They had area
Speaker 5: planes flying across.
Speaker 3: That's a good thing. They've kept that. That's great they've kep. Yeah,
Speaker 3: tell me what happened? Did the tube system go to
Speaker 3: the dump?
Speaker 5: I think it did, Yeah, I think it did. I
Speaker 5: think it just stripped it out.
Speaker 3: It's pretty hard. It's useless for anyone, really, is it?
Speaker 3: Anis you're kind of a.
Speaker 5: Unless you know what, unless you know how to operate it?
Speaker 3: Yet, well, I kind of me, any, I kind of
Speaker 3: meagine any post any uses fraud Apart the restaurant that
Speaker 3: serves burgers and kids bills and it works quite well. Actually, yeah, christ.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you now that one of the other
Speaker 5: things that I know is all the electronic stuff we
Speaker 5: do know f pos and credit card and everything. It's
Speaker 5: the electronic version of it. Exactly no cash handling at all.
Speaker 5: It's just exactly the same thing, except for its electronic
Speaker 5: from your account to their account. It's just the same
Speaker 5: thing done electronically.
Speaker 3: It's the only place where those tubes seem to have
Speaker 3: contemporary use, I think is in hospitals when you've got
Speaker 3: to see prescriptions and blood tests and samples to the
Speaker 3: labs and stuff. And I think it works quite well there.
Speaker 5: That would work quite well. Yeah, but they stood there.
Speaker 5: I think you'll find that they've got order these running
Speaker 5: backwards and forwards much leason of fit. But some of those,
Speaker 5: many of them.
Speaker 3: Harry, some of those hospitals do have the cash that
Speaker 3: tube system. So but look, nice to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Thank you, good evening, Dion. It to Marcus.
Speaker 14: Welcome, Oh, thank you Marcus. And look, I've got to
Speaker 14: apologize I have not been able to listen for the
Speaker 14: last three hour because I've had phone calls to listen
Speaker 14: to basically even busy. Yeah, you've got to care for
Speaker 14: people sometimes.
Speaker 2: But I did.
Speaker 14: Towards the end of my time with you. Here Mash
Speaker 14: being mentioned as as a TV show from the US,
Speaker 14: and I rate that is number one. Ever, is a
Speaker 14: comedy I wanted to mention as a comedy, Yes, also
Speaker 14: I mean across the board, but I think the comedy
Speaker 14: the comedic writing I think was was wonderful, but also
Speaker 14: touched other areas of of of writing that were pretty clever.
Speaker 14: But I thought of four others that kind of go
Speaker 14: across the board. One of them is Mork and Mindy yep,
Speaker 14: Happy Days yep, until the jumping of the Shark. Of course,
Speaker 14: The Simpsons. I'm not sure if that's been mentioned or not.
Speaker 14: Like I said, I haven't heard, but Simpsons I think
Speaker 14: changed the way that a lot of things have been
Speaker 14: looked at and also have seen what's going to come
Speaker 14: in the future. And one of my favorite most recent ones,
Speaker 14: which is kind of getting a bit aged, is Brooklyn
Speaker 14: nine nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not one of them. That's not one I
Speaker 3: have seen. I would dispute Morganman there. I've always found
Speaker 3: Robin Williams in that role quite annoying, but that's just
Speaker 3: my opinion. Okay, but what's Brooklyn nine nine very funny?
Speaker 14: Yes, it's it's very funny, but it's also very clever.
Speaker 14: It's not just funny. The thing I like about humor
Speaker 14: is if it's if it's clever, it adds to it.
Speaker 14: So the Simpsons are clever. Brooklyn nine line is very clever.
Speaker 3: Until what the synopsis of Brooklyn nine nine.
Speaker 14: It is about a New York PD Police Department team
Speaker 14: of mainly detectives, but other people as well, peripheral people,
Speaker 14: not many of them. It's also, like you spoke about
Speaker 14: chairs being centered in one place, it's kind of centered
Speaker 14: in one place.
Speaker 11: It has.
Speaker 5: A kind of.
Speaker 6: Diverse cast, and.
Speaker 14: It just looks at the way that people treat people.
Speaker 14: I guess sometimes a bit differently. But the comedic values
Speaker 14: are in the in the text and also the storylines
Speaker 14: which continue through and it runs through I think eight
Speaker 14: or nine series. I think eight series, and it's just
Speaker 14: it's very clever.
Speaker 3: Was it was it screened Free to Wear in New
Speaker 3: Zealand or was it screened No.
Speaker 14: It's on it's on TV one. In said, well, what
Speaker 14: if it's called one plus? I think pretty.
Speaker 3: It's not what I've had a lot of people talk about,
Speaker 3: but doesn't mean I'm not going to give it a go.
Speaker 14: I would recommend giving it a crack for maybe a
Speaker 14: couple of shows, and if you don't like it, walk away.
Speaker 3: Is it binge watching.
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 14: I can sit there And I actually watched the entire
Speaker 14: series over a period of I think three days A
Speaker 14: few months ago. I did the same thing with Matsh
Speaker 14: as well.
Speaker 3: So Mesh, had you seen Mesh before I saw.
Speaker 14: Mash when I was I don't know what I would
Speaker 14: have been at about eight or nine or ten or something.
Speaker 14: And then I watched it again periodically I think in
Speaker 14: the UK when i'd been in my twenties, and then
Speaker 14: I binge watched the whole thing in one go with
Speaker 14: somebody and we watched the whole thing in about five
Speaker 14: days or something like that.
Speaker 3: Well, it still steps up, absolutely.
Speaker 14: It is the best show ever written ever. It's top, top,
Speaker 14: top notch. And as you said when I heard you
Speaker 14: saying about there, there's no last in that final show.
Speaker 14: There are a couple of lasts, but the truth of
Speaker 14: what they're actually pointing out it's pretty amazing, really.
Speaker 3: Nice to hear from you, Dean. Thank you so much
Speaker 3: for that one whole night. Haven't mentioned Butter. No calls
Speaker 3: about Butter, but gosh, what great publicity for Costco. How
Speaker 3: good's that? I think the crossover from Happy Days to
Speaker 3: Walk and Minnie's a side of the brilliant he bought. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it didn't last long though Mork and Mindy did it.
Speaker 3: I thought they sort too much. It was too much
Speaker 3: showcasing him. I'll tell you what's an underrated American sitcom? Alf,
Speaker 3: If you want that kind of extraterrestrial thing, that was
Speaker 3: a much funny. He was good. Alf. He only went
Speaker 3: for four seasons. That should tell you something. That's my
Speaker 3: take on it. Steady decline, people stopped watching it never
Speaker 3: rated if that was never successful, and they always try
Speaker 3: to change it to make it better. I'm talking about
Speaker 3: Mark and Mindy. In the second season, the show's main
Speaker 3: focus was no longer on Mark's slapstick attempts with justin
Speaker 3: Knew World he was in, but on the relationship between
Speaker 3: Mark and Mindy on a romantic level. Some of the
Speaker 3: focus was on work, trying to find a steady job.
Speaker 3: Because the erupt changes to the show in times not
Speaker 3: ratings slipped dramatically, dropping to twenty seventh the show has
Speaker 3: quickly moved back to with the previous time starting. Efforts
Speaker 3: were made to return it to the court of the series. However,
Speaker 3: rating did not recover. There you going to be listened
Speaker 3: from that because there was also a Lavoon and Shody,
Speaker 3: which was also a spinoff. I think of Happy Days,
Speaker 3: Good evening, Doug.
Speaker 23: This is Marcus Welcome, Okay, matey's work years ago when
Speaker 23: I was a young fellow and John edmund on Tay
Speaker 23: Street and we had the old vacuum vacuum system and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it used to work at a real treat. Actually,
Speaker 4: it was quite novelty to start up doing that with
Speaker 4: your first cover shop assistant.
Speaker 3: What was what was so Tay Street? We're talking in
Speaker 3: the cargol are we.
Speaker 4: Yeah, John Edmondson on Tay Street just a long oppositeation
Speaker 4: days there. Yeah, it was a big hardware shop. Used
Speaker 4: to sell everything there and and we used to send
Speaker 4: them up to the used to put them in the
Speaker 4: in the put your money in the in the docket
Speaker 4: and the canister and close it up and then send
Speaker 4: it down the street. And then you would go up
Speaker 4: to the top, up to the ladies up the top
Speaker 4: and they'd sort out all the change and send it
Speaker 4: back down to you.
Speaker 3: What shop is that now, Doug, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: There was the sports shop next door to there for
Speaker 4: a while. There's the ant Birds next door, and yeah,
Speaker 4: it was white opposite the arcade. I'm not sure what
Speaker 4: that arcade is now, going right through from Tay Street
Speaker 4: through to s Street. It was right opposite that, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: so and one of them not one, well last young
Speaker 4: fellows have a bit of fun and used to be
Speaker 4: able to grab a little lever on the box and
Speaker 4: if one of the girls was a bit slow up there,
Speaker 4: you'd give this thing a bloody rattle. And they made
Speaker 4: a hell of a dorn up there in their office
Speaker 4: and let you just stir them up at it and
Speaker 4: then mix these girls be coming down and giving you
Speaker 4: a rack up and there's just a lot of tunb. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what's what. And it was great system. It was
Speaker 4: about eight machines.
Speaker 3: It was where it was where H and J Sports
Speaker 3: was for a while, wasn't It was a big shot there.
Speaker 3: I remember exactly where it was. Okay, had that high setting.
Speaker 3: It looked like there'd be something up there. Never realized
Speaker 3: that was there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, you just listening to your show and
Speaker 4: I was like, when I'm here listening to your shows
Speaker 4: and yeah, I remember meeting New years ago. You interviewed
Speaker 4: Barry Crump from my hotel and Headlock.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right. What was it a hotel called.
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 4: Well, it was the Florer soon at that time.
Speaker 3: Over the over the water or something, was it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, just right in the middle of right in the
Speaker 4: middle of Headlock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so were you south were so where you were
Speaker 3: south Ender there that had become a publican and Havelock.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 4: That's that was the story. Yes, yep, yeah, around of that.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, because crub wasn't living in Heavlock,
Speaker 3: was he? I think we drive over from Nelson Will didn't.
Speaker 4: He lived in Rock for oh probably probably six years
Speaker 4: and more.
Speaker 3: And I subsequently met her that that wife he was
Speaker 3: with several times after that too, that she was he
Speaker 3: was with at that time too.
Speaker 4: So yeah, they shifted up. They shifted up to the
Speaker 4: Hawk's Bay somewhere from Headlock.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So why did you end up there in Havelock?
Speaker 4: Well, basically had a farm and Luis farm in Southland
Speaker 4: and they have a Fairfax there and and yeah, just
Speaker 4: sold that up and and be a publican and a
Speaker 4: little poor poor the beer in my life before that,
Speaker 4: So it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Hell did you last?
Speaker 4: Probably we built up. We hit motels here as well,
Speaker 4: so yeah, about nine years in total.
Speaker 3: That's a good stunt. I don't have a pub for
Speaker 3: that long. Yeah, it's always every time upstayed there, it
Speaker 3: always seems to be quite a lovey little town. I
Speaker 3: quite like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, it's it's going a lot
Speaker 4: of the Marina's quite big there now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And getting back to your shows, you know, I've never
Speaker 4: routeen on American comedy. Always like the British comedy. I
Speaker 4: don't know why, but the one American show I really
Speaker 4: enjoyed was Texting. Yeah that was a real dry right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It had a great script, didn't it.
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 3: It was so fantastic, fantastic characters here. You're quite right.
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