WEBVTT - The Lamson Cash Rail System (21 May 2025)

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Wednesday, and welcome here till twelve. I hope

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<v Speaker 3>things are good, and if they're not good, I hope

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<v Speaker 3>they're better by the time midnight rolls around. I hope

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<v Speaker 3>we can do some good tonight. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>they're good is. Maybe who knows? Oh eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty toighty is the number? Are nine to nine two text.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of things probably we should talk about tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Got three or four things, but this will change throughout

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<v Speaker 3>the course of the evening. There's other stuff that bounces up.

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<v Speaker 3>Will bring that to your attention to We might even

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<v Speaker 3>discuss it. We have quite a broad brief.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we'll talk about anything basically, So if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to be a part of it, get in touch. As

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<v Speaker 3>I say, oh, eight hundred eighty thirty and nine two

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<v Speaker 3>nine two to text. You'd have heard the news the

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<v Speaker 3>news during the news also that Psmith and Cohe has

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<v Speaker 3>Smith and Coey's has closed. Now for those that don't

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<v Speaker 3>know Smith and coy'serhaps it's a bit like Ballantine's or

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<v Speaker 3>a bit like Caircaldi's or a bit like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what that the need and equivalent would have been,

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<v Speaker 3>there would have been one, but you're or a bit

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<v Speaker 3>like an invert cargol. They had h and Jays and

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<v Speaker 3>that's God left a gaping hole. H and Jays also

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<v Speaker 3>to the whole blocks just did with nothing going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, so now it's turned for Smith and Curries

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<v Speaker 3>were already about a year ago talked about their demise

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<v Speaker 3>because it was going to go, but they decided to

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<v Speaker 3>have another go with it. What was interesting I was

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<v Speaker 3>an Auckland a bit over Christmas. Everyone was going to

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<v Speaker 3>Smith and Curry's. They are the people that people go

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<v Speaker 3>to for Father Christmas photos. Yes as kind of naph

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<v Speaker 3>as that sounds, it is the go to people book

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and it's like this right of passage for people

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be a rite of passage, mainly for people

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<v Speaker 3>that have moved to Auckland from elsewhere. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to sound jelish, but that seems to be what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not quite sure why that is. They think that's

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<v Speaker 3>something that you need to do in Auckland is but anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>and they booked out. You couldn't get in, was booked

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<v Speaker 3>out for weeks and weeks in advance. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>quite know who now picks up that mental because who

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<v Speaker 3>else would do that. I can't imagine what the answer

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<v Speaker 3>that would be. And they be father Christmases that will

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<v Speaker 3>be out of work, I suppose to, but who knows anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to talk quickly about Smith and Coey's,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been there recently, recently in December. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>had to buy something, and I had to buy a

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<v Speaker 3>shirt for a child whose birthday was on the nineteenth

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<v Speaker 3>of December. It was a sure he looked at for

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes and decided it wasn't for him, gave it

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<v Speaker 3>to his brother, who was quite happy with it. But yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it was in one of those desperate shopping things that

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<v Speaker 3>was the last place to go to, and even then

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<v Speaker 3>it seemed slightly well, it seems slightly abandoned. However, also

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<v Speaker 3>I took myself and sat myself in the cafe there

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<v Speaker 3>and that was quite pleasant for a length of times.

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<v Speaker 3>The people will miss that too, anyway, if you do

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<v Speaker 3>want to. It's been there forever, but obviously to retail

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<v Speaker 3>has gone. Department stores have gone. Queen Street's gone, and

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<v Speaker 3>people blame it on COVID and the renovations, but it

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<v Speaker 3>will be all manner of things and the fact they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't pivot to online retail quick enough, and also too

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to big departments at stores. You might

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<v Speaker 3>like to say too, perhaps with some of them that

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps some of their brands, the choice of brands was

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps in some cases too luxury and in other cases

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<v Speaker 3>not luxury enough. So yeah, if you want to comment

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<v Speaker 3>on that quickly. The My name is Marcus Welcome, eight

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and eighty ten eighty. I don't know what will

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<v Speaker 3>happen with the building. It feels like it's about six stories.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quite a big building, takes up a whole block

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<v Speaker 3>of be a significant building. I can't imagine what would

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<v Speaker 3>go in there. I can't imagine who is the rising

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<v Speaker 3>stars of commercial real estate that they would put in there.

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<v Speaker 3>What's everyone clamoring to do? I know what it will be,

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<v Speaker 3>probably bubble Tea put in the world's biggest bubble tea

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<v Speaker 3>place that seems to not be falling out of favor

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<v Speaker 3>with anyone, does it?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so we had those yogurt places, you go those

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<v Speaker 3>ice cream places you do, all the different topics they

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<v Speaker 3>came and went. But bubble Tea, well it seems to

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<v Speaker 3>work better in smaller shops. Bubble Tea you would want

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<v Speaker 3>five floors a bit don't even know what the bubbles are.

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<v Speaker 3>We tried the family once in Dneed and it was

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<v Speaker 3>a disaster. The people we were with you, I've never

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<v Speaker 3>known anyone who has so much trouble struggle with But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I loved it, but the kids were sort

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<v Speaker 3>of non play. There was a bit too sophisticated for

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<v Speaker 3>them out from Bluff and the big city of Dunedin

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<v Speaker 3>experimenting with the bubble Tea thing. Anyway, I think they

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was going to be more excited than next

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<v Speaker 3>you was, which is probably very much what I've always

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<v Speaker 3>thought about bubble Tea. Anyway, who although I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>thought I was there at the beginning of bubble Tea,

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<v Speaker 3>when was at about two thousand. Anyway, do get in touch.

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<v Speaker 3>My name as Marcus Welcome eight hundred and eighty ten

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<v Speaker 3>eighty nine two nine two to text. Winston's been a

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<v Speaker 3>bit precious a with the guy. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>he does it Tonkin and Taylor, I certainly hope he

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<v Speaker 3>keeps his job. Otherwise I'd been feeling differently about Tonkin

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<v Speaker 3>and Taylor. I could imagine going to work one day

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<v Speaker 3>on a train and seeing Winston Peters there grandstanding and

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<v Speaker 3>PEPs thinking I need to say something, and that's a

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<v Speaker 3>that's a healthy kind of thing to want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And we all have bad days sometimes think oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and someone cops what we have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I presume that dominated talk back today. Everywhere I've heard,

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<v Speaker 3>there's been online polls what should you do? Should be

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<v Speaker 3>able to say anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 5>At work?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was sure, well, you know, should you

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<v Speaker 3>be able to do that? I'm probably in a slightly

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<v Speaker 3>different position because if I went out there and sort

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<v Speaker 3>of started abusing someone, probably I would expect there'd be

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<v Speaker 3>consequences because I am someone that works in that public realm.

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<v Speaker 3>If you work at Tonkin and Taylor should be able

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<v Speaker 3>say what you like when you're off the clock. That

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<v Speaker 3>would be my take on that one also tonight. But look,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt that's been every time I've turned they ready

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<v Speaker 3>to I've heard people talking about that. So no doubt

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<v Speaker 3>that dominated the discussion today. So there's that also too today,

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<v Speaker 3>since I have to throw things through a few things

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<v Speaker 3>at you to get your grabbing. Tonight, the guy from

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<v Speaker 3>Chairs has died. Now, probably most of you. The first

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<v Speaker 3>thing we thought was well, I didn't know he was

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<v Speaker 3>still alive. It didn't look like he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>hang around for if. I believe he spent some time

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<v Speaker 3>in New Zealand filming a movie, and I think that

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<v Speaker 3>would be the late nineties. I remember working at a

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<v Speaker 3>restaurant when he was a frequent visitor. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what the movie he was filming was, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>certainly filmed in New Zealand. He was here for some months.

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<v Speaker 3>I will do some research. I remember what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>But also the other thing I can tell you about

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<v Speaker 3>George Went who was from Cheers, and there's a very

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<v Speaker 3>funny song about that. And it's not often we can

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<v Speaker 3>get a song about Norm from Cheers, but yes, we

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<v Speaker 3>might ever played that later tonight. I've just remembered the

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<v Speaker 3>lyrics to that. Someone remind me what the song is called. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm putting the show together on the fly. I'm quite

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<v Speaker 3>enjoying this. So Norm from Cheers, but the three I

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<v Speaker 3>about Norm from Cheers? What was the song? Someone remembered?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't. I can't even google it up. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the song from Cheers. I'm looking at the

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<v Speaker 3>song that contains the Norm from Cheers lyrics. What's it

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<v Speaker 3>called Dan? Who's it by? Yeah, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the welcome Matt from Cheers. What's the song called?

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<v Speaker 3>Play me? Anyway? So the thing about Norm from Cheers is,

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<v Speaker 3>once upon a time at christ Jewich Airport they had

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<v Speaker 3>a bar called the Cheers Bar, and this was like

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<v Speaker 3>thirty years ago, and in that bar they had animatronics

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<v Speaker 3>people sitting at the bar, and one of them was

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<v Speaker 3>Norm from Cheers, and one of them was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the other guys from Cheers. I think it was the

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<v Speaker 3>poster and they talked to you when you drank. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>how sad that a bar We've got to go and

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<v Speaker 3>sit next to robots that will talk to you. But

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<v Speaker 3>then they got sued by the Cheers people and they

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<v Speaker 3>had to change them into just nondescript people at the bar.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is the situation with the Cheers Bar, some

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<v Speaker 3>of them. It was a big deal in christ Church

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<v Speaker 3>at the time. We thought it was the future, but

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<v Speaker 3>not as much of the future as AI. But it

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty exciting at the time. Can you see me

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<v Speaker 3>as lyrics down? I couldn't find them. Was it called

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<v Speaker 3>they'll play me the welcome matt uh? Is that what

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<v Speaker 3>the song is called? It might be the one I'm

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<v Speaker 3>exactly thinking of it. You seen those lyrics through and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell people if that's the one I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 3>or not. Anyway, full board men will get going with

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<v Speaker 3>the people. There's people there would like some more. Actually, factually,

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<v Speaker 3>oh eight hundred and eighty sady and nine to nine

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<v Speaker 3>two to text. Oh beautiful. I'll start drinking hot water

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<v Speaker 3>quite good. I don't know why I've switched, but it'll

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<v Speaker 3>make sense sometime. So three things they are already free speech,

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<v Speaker 3>Winston Peters, Smith and Cowe's and norm from Cheers you

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<v Speaker 3>hit send? Oh you have found the lyrics yet? Now

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<v Speaker 3>I've found them either just a song okay, dB Marcus welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>Where everybody knows your name? Anyway, Smith and Curry's. As

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<v Speaker 6>a young child, and I'm talking six, maybe five, maybe seven,

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<v Speaker 6>I Smiff and Curry's fascinated me because they had the

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<v Speaker 6>lambsome tube system of doing the money.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is that the one that's that's not the one

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<v Speaker 3>on cables. That's the one that's hydraulics.

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<v Speaker 6>No, this one's pneumatic.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>So you.

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<v Speaker 6>Would hand over your money with a receipt to the

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what they would call them. Anyway, they

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<v Speaker 6>would put it into a little capsule where they'd go

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<v Speaker 6>into a tube. Zum gone. Yeah, at about two maybe three, zook,

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<v Speaker 6>come back with your change, your receipts for paying, and

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<v Speaker 6>you could leave the shops. Fascinated me.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder, I wonder why I phased that out. What

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<v Speaker 3>was the point of all of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the first the point of it was that way the.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd really like a.

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<v Speaker 6>Better word from the attendant. But the person telling you

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<v Speaker 6>the goods didn't handle the money. It was taken to

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<v Speaker 6>a central position and they had cashiers there that did

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<v Speaker 6>the money transaction. There was no money in the shop.

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<v Speaker 6>It was in a secure location to use an americanism,

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<v Speaker 6>and that was that was quite common in the fifties

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<v Speaker 6>and sixties. And I'm talking sixty five sixty six, So

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<v Speaker 6>in that era that wasn't unusual because there were no

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<v Speaker 6>point of sale pills, you know, a till was considered

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit yeah, not the high class. And also

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<v Speaker 6>these people shopping at Stiff and Courage. They would have

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<v Speaker 6>themselves a credit token that they could put in with

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<v Speaker 6>what they're purchasing, and then they actually have to pay cash.

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<v Speaker 6>It was they would have a running account that was

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<v Speaker 6>kept again in the cashiers are they would check your

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<v Speaker 6>token against what, you know, your account. This was long

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<v Speaker 6>before anything electronic, of course, and if you had a

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<v Speaker 6>good credit rating with them, or even perhaps a positive

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<v Speaker 6>credit balance, you could buy stuff without handling money, and

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<v Speaker 6>that was considered. They was there for the.

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<v Speaker 3>Time because there are there are other shops that had

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<v Speaker 3>things like cables that you could clip stuff on that

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<v Speaker 3>was quite complicated as well. The other thing I need

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<v Speaker 3>to use there, yes, and the other thing I probably

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<v Speaker 3>need to tell you about. There is a burger bar

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<v Speaker 3>in christ Gyge that's quite interesting and they deliver your

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<v Speaker 3>food in the pneumatic tubes.

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<v Speaker 6>Hopefully it's not a MiG shake.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>It comes to like a canister, an animinium canister canister

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<v Speaker 3>that you kind of unroll and it works quite well well.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of hospitals still used the them method for

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<v Speaker 6>samples across vast distances, you know, and you could program

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<v Speaker 6>the canister go different places. If we had to go

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<v Speaker 6>to thematology. You push a different an exeit coator they

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<v Speaker 6>had to go to I don't know, tissue something. It

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<v Speaker 6>would go somewhere else. And they were very efficient. I

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<v Speaker 6>could a bit of a sudding on damp and shoes

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<v Speaker 6>there is. But the other thing that I remember, they

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<v Speaker 6>have conflated the memory. They had a lift caller, so

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<v Speaker 6>the the elevator, the lift was manually operated and they

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<v Speaker 6>had a list attendant and he would call the good

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<v Speaker 6>on the floors as you arrived, very much like are

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<v Speaker 6>you being served? You hear it in the background, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think, because in those days the lift quite I think

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<v Speaker 3>in those days the lift were quite complicated to operate.

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<v Speaker 6>Was that right handle that you went go up and

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<v Speaker 6>go down? Yes, I don't know if they were necessarily complicated.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember being allowed to operate a few I missed

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<v Speaker 6>the floor being dead. Even that requires skill. But the

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<v Speaker 6>mechanism itself was turn the handle one way, it go up,

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<v Speaker 6>turn the handle the other way it goes down. Not

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<v Speaker 6>unlike a train pushing forward, it go forward, push it backwards,

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<v Speaker 6>did go backwards. The skill was stopping where people wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to be.

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<v Speaker 3>How many years was it since you've been dismissing Coe's dB.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's a great question. Maybe thirty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well hasn't changed much, but now it's going. Able

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<v Speaker 3>to move on, d bit nice to talk interesting sown.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel I threw too much at you, but that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I was excited to be here. Welcome anyway. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>find that song. It's called the Welcome Mad. It's from

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<v Speaker 3>probably about nineteen ninety two. Was big an alternative radio

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<v Speaker 3>at its day. Happy International Tea Day, Marcus, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you like your tea? What's your predictions on the budget tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 3>Budgets these days are of no interest. Really, little will

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<v Speaker 3>happen to be a little that we talk about, much

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<v Speaker 3>debated figures and much talk about tightening the belt. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you Marcus for that. If I saw Winston private, I'd say,

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<v Speaker 3>can we have the six September the sixth Test live? Please?

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<v Speaker 3>Three TV?

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good, Marcus. If you're out, if you were to

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<v Speaker 3>shouted a supplier or customers and advertise of news talks,

0:15:56.653 --> 0:15:58.693
<v Speaker 3>there'd be whilst wearing the news talks, he'd be lanyard

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<v Speaker 3>or cap. Do you think that is okay? I don't, Peter,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think what the person had done was illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can say stuff that's free speech, but

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<v Speaker 3>certainly they've made that into a big deal. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>because there are reporters there. Someone said that the Tonkin

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<v Speaker 3>and Taylor are also a client of Well ended Rails,

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<v Speaker 3>a client of Tonkin and Taylor, but that becomes complicated.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it looked bad on Tonkin and Tailor if

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<v Speaker 3>they did dismissed the guy or took action against them.

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<v Speaker 3>But you might differ. I see also the run it

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<v Speaker 3>or run it straight. They've run into some of those campaigns.

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<v Speaker 3>They have run into trouble. It looks like some of

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<v Speaker 3>those ones might be going ahead, but it appears to

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<v Speaker 3>be about three of them trying to go ahead. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to need to retype that text, Brink, because

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<v Speaker 3>I can hardly understand the writing. You're just gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to edit it because I've read it and I can't

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<v Speaker 3>read that out just yet. Could it didn't make much sense,

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<v Speaker 3>but just spell check it that. I think it would

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<v Speaker 3>be good. Smith and Coey's Winston Peters, remember how Cheers?

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<v Speaker 3>How good Cheers was? I think you'd put that in

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<v Speaker 3>your top five American sitcoms. Wouldn't you. It was one

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<v Speaker 3>of those great ones that very really did they leave it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was always in the bar, which I think is

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<v Speaker 3>a great thing. I think a sitcom is great when

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<v Speaker 3>they don't kind of when you know what you're up against,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's just them around the bar. I think

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<v Speaker 3>once or twice they might have left. And then of

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<v Speaker 3>course Frasier steamed off from that too. Very well done

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<v Speaker 3>in its day, and every time I've seen an episode

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<v Speaker 3>recently it's kind of aged pretty well. Oh by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>if also anyone remembers that bar at the christ Jewish

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<v Speaker 3>Airport where it was a cheers bar and you'd sit

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<v Speaker 3>next to a drink next to the robot that was

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<v Speaker 3>based on him until they sued for their likeness. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know who's going to pick up the mantle for

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<v Speaker 3>the Santa Claus because it was an extremely big deal

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<v Speaker 3>for Smith and Goey's. I mean, if you could actually

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<v Speaker 3>manage to get that going, get that ip or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it's called. I mean, it's not much to it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just a winter wonderland and a guy in a bed,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can do kind of an upmarket Santa Clause

0:18:27.493 --> 0:18:30.813
<v Speaker 3>could be of every exciting thing, hold your horse's lease

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<v Speaker 3>away with you. So the number, as I say, is oh,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, nineteen eighty two chairs started. It went

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<v Speaker 3>for eleven seasons. But yes, skid amongst. If your doing

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<v Speaker 3>a talk, miname as Marcus welcome, Oh eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty ten eighty nine two nine two detect of his

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<v Speaker 3>breaking news, and of course the Smith and Coen news

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<v Speaker 3>only came out with in the last hour also, so

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<v Speaker 3>just breaking or readjusting that it's closing for good. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what will happen to the building. You'd be

0:18:58.013 --> 0:19:03.693
<v Speaker 3>a fitty bold person to take that on. But now

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<v Speaker 3>that you've got the rail loop opening, it's quite handy

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<v Speaker 3>to every thing. In fact, with the rail loop, I

0:19:10.213 --> 0:19:17.013
<v Speaker 3>think that becomes an extremely attractive proposition. Maybe there's a

0:19:17.053 --> 0:19:20.573
<v Speaker 3>giant bubble tea seems to you what everyone wants. It's

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<v Speaker 3>what everyone goes into town for. Oh, eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty ten with gelato, Oh eight hundred eighty good evening, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Marcus welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 8>Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 3>Or eight speak unclear sounding very crisp, So thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for that, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh that's good. So I was just listening to the

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<v Speaker 8>other guy talking about Smith and Cowie, and it reminded

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<v Speaker 8>me of my very early years. That would have been

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<v Speaker 8>about the mid seventies, I think, going to George Courts

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<v Speaker 8>and k Road with my mum and we'd we'd part

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<v Speaker 8>in the back somewhere and we'd go across this bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. There was that sort of that bridge, wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>there like an eb what would you call that, like

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<v Speaker 3>a flyer over?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, which was quite modern in those days. Yes, And

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<v Speaker 9>so we'd park in the car park and go across

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<v Speaker 9>there and and then we're geting a lift and it

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<v Speaker 9>was this very manual lift where where there would be

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<v Speaker 9>assistance like the other guy was talking about where.

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<v Speaker 10>And it was it was like a cage.

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<v Speaker 3>You should. You'd bring the grid across first and then

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<v Speaker 3>you'd close the door and hook it in, wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there there were like two doors and that were

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<v Speaker 8>manually closed by this person that did it for us.

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<v Speaker 8>It wasn't left left for the public to do. And

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<v Speaker 8>he would ask you where you want to go, and

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<v Speaker 8>he would push the button for the correct store at

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<v Speaker 8>the correct level.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, there was the George Court and there was

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<v Speaker 3>there was Rendell's just down as well, there was two

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<v Speaker 3>big departments.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it might have been either. Now you mentioned that

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<v Speaker 8>it might have even been that we win the same lift.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't remember. And yeah, I don't know how how

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<v Speaker 8>we went to either Rendall's or the other one, George Courts,

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<v Speaker 8>but I remember particularly George Courts is very classical building,

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<v Speaker 8>and they's now converted to a partner.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, And I think probably for most people, I

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<v Speaker 3>think George Courts and Rendall's were a more sort of

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<v Speaker 3>a accessible situation, and what happened at Smith and Coey's

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<v Speaker 3>it probably was more designed to be affordable, would be

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<v Speaker 3>my take. I would think. Nice to hear from Elsa,

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Nicotts s Marcus.

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<v Speaker 11>Good evening.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it's Nick here.

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<v Speaker 13>How are you good?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>Just regarding Smith and Coey, it's said that I'm one

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<v Speaker 13>of the professional tenders.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hang on, you one of there?

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<v Speaker 12>What professional?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, for how long have you done that?

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<v Speaker 13>I've been there, I'll be doing for a number of years.

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<v Speaker 13>I did, will be there for about eight, eight or

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<v Speaker 13>nine years.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, condolences for losing your job.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I did seventy dig here last year.

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<v Speaker 14>You did what six seventy.

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<v Speaker 3>Gigs seventy so seventy different shifts.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah there last year.

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<v Speaker 3>And what and sorry? How long was a shift?

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<v Speaker 2>Nick?

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<v Speaker 12>Three? Three hours? And yeah, we started early November.

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<v Speaker 3>And people booked into like five minutes slots, did they?

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<v Speaker 12>You know, we could only spend five minutes with a family.

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<v Speaker 12>And it's pretty pretty continuous over there over the seventy gigs,

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<v Speaker 12>four thousand children on my knee?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, and what would happen if the if the five

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<v Speaker 3>minutes would I wouldn't else come and get them?

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<v Speaker 15>Well?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, no, we we sort of were just conscious of

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<v Speaker 12>the time and we tried and I mean five minutes

0:23:17.013 --> 0:23:19.493
<v Speaker 12>with the screening pread is far too long, but five

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<v Speaker 12>minutes with a couple of teenage kids and stuff, it's

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<v Speaker 12>nowhere near enough. But it's yeah, we sort of get

0:23:25.573 --> 0:23:27.813
<v Speaker 12>a feeling and we we we that they let us

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<v Speaker 12>know after a while, how are we tracking?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's mainly for then. It was manly a

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<v Speaker 3>photo opportunity too, was it.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah? Yeah, well they get the photo. Yeah, it's but

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<v Speaker 12>the whole experience, the whole center experience is world renowned.

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<v Speaker 12>They got the enchanted forest with all the center of

0:23:47.013 --> 0:23:51.293
<v Speaker 12>reindeer workshops and stuff and and and they're going to

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<v Speaker 12>a you know, so in the room. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 12>done malls. I've done heat and malls and you know

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<v Speaker 12>smith and Cory's the census. Every center's favorite place.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, more than one place? You more than one place

0:24:03.133 --> 0:24:03.613
<v Speaker 3>is center.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I've done most of them all, and i'd have

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<v Speaker 12>you know, my first choice is when you get our rosters,

0:24:11.693 --> 0:24:16.653
<v Speaker 12>which is usually around about September October, and I wait

0:24:16.693 --> 0:24:19.613
<v Speaker 12>for the center for the Smithy Coey's roster, and then

0:24:19.653 --> 0:24:22.053
<v Speaker 12>all the other mauls will work around that.

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<v Speaker 3>So is this some is this some business that runs

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<v Speaker 3>all the centers?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 12>Well yeah, these with there's twenty six centers there and

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<v Speaker 12>the six on the floor at any one moment.

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<v Speaker 3>But you you hold hang on, hang on. Are you

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<v Speaker 3>booked to go to other malls as well?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, by the.

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<v Speaker 3>Same by the same age, from the same agent.

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<v Speaker 12>No, no, no, I work for about three different recruitment companies.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, I understand, Okay, I appreciate terrible line bred,

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<v Speaker 3>but I appreciate that. Thank you. I appreciate you coming

0:24:56.733 --> 0:24:59.493
<v Speaker 3>through next. Sorry. By the way, of course, for the

0:24:59.533 --> 0:25:02.293
<v Speaker 3>young people listening, there are Probably these are just representative

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<v Speaker 3>centers until the real one can come through. I guess

0:25:06.013 --> 0:25:09.213
<v Speaker 3>we've got to tall you that, don't we this time

0:25:09.213 --> 0:25:11.093
<v Speaker 3>of the year. So that's what there's just it's just

0:25:11.173 --> 0:25:13.973
<v Speaker 3>for the photo chants because so you can actually yeah,

0:25:13.973 --> 0:25:18.213
<v Speaker 3>I think you get that whole drift. Anyway, some extremely

0:25:18.253 --> 0:25:20.413
<v Speaker 3>good texts. The good texts are back, and that's an

0:25:20.453 --> 0:25:24.373
<v Speaker 3>exciting thing. Someone's texture that said, what are people texting?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually we just bring those ones up. Any kid listening

0:25:27.093 --> 0:25:28.333
<v Speaker 3>throughout this time of the night should be on the

0:25:28.413 --> 0:25:33.613
<v Speaker 3>NAISI list anyway, exactly. George Courts and John Courts were

0:25:33.613 --> 0:25:36.573
<v Speaker 3>on opposite corners Renders further down the k Road opposites

0:25:36.613 --> 0:25:38.973
<v Speaker 3>and Keevintac not familiar with the John Courts, but I'm

0:25:39.013 --> 0:25:41.573
<v Speaker 3>sure someone will know about that. Marcus is Nick ringing

0:25:41.573 --> 0:25:45.013
<v Speaker 3>from the North Pole, noisy and weird that his name

0:25:45.053 --> 0:25:48.253
<v Speaker 3>is Nick. You're really weird. He's sounded young for a father.

0:25:48.333 --> 0:25:53.733
<v Speaker 3>Christmas Marcus. I've just had a left of meeting at

0:25:53.733 --> 0:25:55.773
<v Speaker 3>Trust Stadium and we're stalkland run it straight going on

0:25:55.813 --> 0:25:58.533
<v Speaker 3>to the own absolutely huge crowd. That was always going

0:25:58.573 --> 0:26:00.093
<v Speaker 3>to happen with that sort of publish I think it's

0:26:00.093 --> 0:26:02.213
<v Speaker 3>the heat tonight? Is it?

0:26:02.253 --> 0:26:02.373
<v Speaker 16>Is it?

0:26:02.413 --> 0:26:10.893
<v Speaker 3>The heat? Is the heat? Marcus? Can they stop mentioning?

0:26:10.933 --> 0:26:13.653
<v Speaker 3>Running it straight on the news? Now it's gone, Tony destroyed. No,

0:26:13.773 --> 0:26:15.133
<v Speaker 3>I think that was just one of them. But is

0:26:15.133 --> 0:26:18.813
<v Speaker 3>it trust stadium tonight? If that's what you mean. Good evening, Brent.

0:26:18.933 --> 0:26:22.293
<v Speaker 17>Welcome, Hi Marcus? How are you good?

0:26:22.333 --> 0:26:22.573
<v Speaker 3>Brent?

0:26:23.573 --> 0:26:25.693
<v Speaker 17>That's the story? Hey, I sent you that text.

0:26:25.693 --> 0:26:27.933
<v Speaker 3>You couldn't be that's right to say.

0:26:29.293 --> 0:26:33.173
<v Speaker 17>It's a book called Machines Like Me written by a

0:26:33.213 --> 0:26:34.773
<v Speaker 17>guy called em McEwan.

0:26:34.853 --> 0:26:37.453
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yelled mckuwen YEA, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:26:37.613 --> 0:26:41.573
<v Speaker 17>It's related to AI. This can gets left three hundred

0:26:41.573 --> 0:26:45.333
<v Speaker 17>and fifty thousand pounds and he buys a robot that

0:26:45.693 --> 0:26:50.173
<v Speaker 17>is so low lifelike people can't differentiate whether it is

0:26:50.533 --> 0:26:55.973
<v Speaker 17>human or whether it's a robot. And he introduces it

0:26:56.053 --> 0:27:04.333
<v Speaker 17>to his girlfriend and it copulates with her wow, which

0:27:04.413 --> 0:27:08.013
<v Speaker 17>is kind of bizarre. And he takes it to parties.

0:27:08.053 --> 0:27:10.133
<v Speaker 17>He is the scary, but he takes it to parties

0:27:10.173 --> 0:27:14.373
<v Speaker 17>and introduces it to people, and the robot sets on

0:27:14.493 --> 0:27:17.293
<v Speaker 17>the side no, and can tell that he's not human.

0:27:18.133 --> 0:27:22.973
<v Speaker 17>It says to him, I don't trust him, and he'll say,

0:27:23.013 --> 0:27:26.933
<v Speaker 17>but you don't have that capacity, and the robot says,

0:27:27.373 --> 0:27:34.413
<v Speaker 17>don't I. Well, no, that's that's a scary tale.

0:27:35.133 --> 0:27:37.453
<v Speaker 3>What takes you? Has he got a kill switch?

0:27:39.693 --> 0:27:44.573
<v Speaker 17>Well, it's it runs out of power. Here, it runs

0:27:44.613 --> 0:27:47.613
<v Speaker 17>out of power, but then it learns how to actually

0:27:48.413 --> 0:27:51.613
<v Speaker 17>recharge power. You know, it click power on before it

0:27:51.653 --> 0:27:54.333
<v Speaker 17>knows it's going to run out of power. So he

0:27:54.413 --> 0:27:56.533
<v Speaker 17>has to do away with its lead. But the whole

0:27:56.573 --> 0:28:01.973
<v Speaker 17>thing is very scary when something like that that can

0:28:02.253 --> 0:28:06.213
<v Speaker 17>talk says don't I have that capacity? Because he read

0:28:06.213 --> 0:28:08.093
<v Speaker 17>them annual about what it could do, but he didn't

0:28:08.093 --> 0:28:09.733
<v Speaker 17>think it could do that with his girlfriend.

0:28:11.133 --> 0:28:13.013
<v Speaker 3>And what did the girl? What did the girlfriend think

0:28:13.013 --> 0:28:13.373
<v Speaker 3>about that?

0:28:15.213 --> 0:28:18.453
<v Speaker 17>She was quite It just happens to be very attractive.

0:28:19.013 --> 0:28:19.973
<v Speaker 3>Was she none the wiser?

0:28:21.653 --> 0:28:22.853
<v Speaker 17>She was none the wiser?

0:28:23.453 --> 0:28:23.853
<v Speaker 7>Wow?

0:28:25.493 --> 0:28:27.973
<v Speaker 17>Crazy, good book to read. And another good book he wrote,

0:28:28.013 --> 0:28:29.853
<v Speaker 17>it's called Saturday. That's a very good book.

0:28:30.453 --> 0:28:31.253
<v Speaker 3>I've read that book.

0:28:32.133 --> 0:28:32.813
<v Speaker 18>Have you?

0:28:33.373 --> 0:28:35.973
<v Speaker 17>They will read read machines like about very good.

0:28:36.133 --> 0:28:38.173
<v Speaker 3>Tell me about Saturday. Is there a balloonist or something?

0:28:39.573 --> 0:28:42.013
<v Speaker 17>No, Saturday is about a guy who.

0:28:43.573 --> 0:28:44.013
<v Speaker 19>Is a.

0:28:45.773 --> 0:28:47.893
<v Speaker 17>He's a brain surgeon or whatever. And he goes down,

0:28:48.133 --> 0:28:50.013
<v Speaker 17>goes down and gets some preissants and he has an

0:28:50.053 --> 0:28:53.293
<v Speaker 17>accident and it wasn't his fault in the people he

0:28:53.453 --> 0:28:59.773
<v Speaker 17>hit weren't the most likable people, so they home invade

0:29:00.293 --> 0:29:03.013
<v Speaker 17>him and it all turns a bit nasty.

0:29:03.653 --> 0:29:04.893
<v Speaker 3>What's the one with the balloon?

0:29:06.573 --> 0:29:09.373
<v Speaker 17>Not read that, but you must see that when you

0:29:09.453 --> 0:29:12.973
<v Speaker 17>spoke about I'm in christ Church, about the christ judge

0:29:13.013 --> 0:29:18.613
<v Speaker 17>bar with those tears characters, I thought, well, I wonder

0:29:18.693 --> 0:29:21.133
<v Speaker 17>how life right they would have been. I never went there.

0:29:21.253 --> 0:29:25.693
<v Speaker 3>But so Enduring Lover is when the people witness a

0:29:25.693 --> 0:29:27.533
<v Speaker 3>ballooning accent. That's the other in me cure and one

0:29:27.573 --> 0:29:30.493
<v Speaker 3>ballooning Enduring Love, which is a good read.

0:29:31.533 --> 0:29:33.813
<v Speaker 17>Yeah good, he's a good author.

0:29:33.853 --> 0:29:35.693
<v Speaker 3>One of the greats, one of the greats. Hey, but

0:29:35.773 --> 0:29:37.253
<v Speaker 3>tell me something. I don't know about you, but I'm

0:29:37.253 --> 0:29:39.573
<v Speaker 3>a big fan of robots having a kill switch. Have

0:29:39.653 --> 0:29:40.893
<v Speaker 3>you got strong feelings about that?

0:29:42.853 --> 0:29:46.413
<v Speaker 17>I think that is a necessity when you read what

0:29:46.573 --> 0:29:48.693
<v Speaker 17>Ian McEwan thinks might happen, because.

0:29:48.453 --> 0:29:50.693
<v Speaker 3>Now they're doing backflip. Now they're doing backflips and all

0:29:50.733 --> 0:29:51.413
<v Speaker 3>sorts of stuff.

0:29:52.533 --> 0:29:55.053
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, hey, I think you've got to have a kill switch.

0:29:55.133 --> 0:29:57.653
<v Speaker 17>I don't think i'd like one taking off as my girlfriend.

0:29:57.893 --> 0:30:02.933
<v Speaker 3>No, I've been more concerned about well, yeah, okay, I

0:30:02.973 --> 0:30:06.053
<v Speaker 3>was also. I was also slightly concerned that when they

0:30:06.053 --> 0:30:10.493
<v Speaker 3>had that prowler at Margo mar Lago Trump's place before

0:30:10.533 --> 0:30:14.373
<v Speaker 3>he took over power. The second time the prowler was

0:30:14.453 --> 0:30:21.333
<v Speaker 3>caught by robotic dogs that were that were monitoring the

0:30:21.373 --> 0:30:22.213
<v Speaker 3>boundary fence.

0:30:26.933 --> 0:30:30.173
<v Speaker 17>Hey, well, I'm I'm sure they'd probably make a mess

0:30:30.173 --> 0:30:31.093
<v Speaker 17>with somebody because.

0:30:30.933 --> 0:30:36.053
<v Speaker 3>They sound terrifying, don't they do. Yeah, it's bad enough

0:30:36.053 --> 0:30:38.973
<v Speaker 3>normal dogs, but once robotic dogs come at you, jeep,

0:30:39.093 --> 0:30:42.453
<v Speaker 3>is it? Brent? Thank you. I appreciate your text now

0:30:42.453 --> 0:30:45.013
<v Speaker 3>that I understand what that was about. But no one's

0:30:45.093 --> 0:30:47.093
<v Speaker 3>yet rung up and talking about the bar at the

0:30:47.173 --> 0:30:52.373
<v Speaker 3>Christchiech Airport with Norm from Cheers and also talk about

0:30:52.373 --> 0:30:57.533
<v Speaker 3>Smith and I know people love nostalgia, but yeah, I

0:30:57.533 --> 0:31:00.293
<v Speaker 3>don't even know what to say about Smith and Coey's

0:31:02.493 --> 0:31:10.253
<v Speaker 3>huge number of staff. Yes, a very successful I didn't

0:31:10.253 --> 0:31:15.893
<v Speaker 3>really experience the grotto or the workshop. I guess we're

0:31:15.973 --> 0:31:18.173
<v Speaker 3>more of a farmer's family with their free bus up

0:31:18.173 --> 0:31:21.453
<v Speaker 3>that would go in mckew and gosh, today was the

0:31:21.453 --> 0:31:27.413
<v Speaker 3>anniversary of amiliar Earhart's flight. Thank you for that. Never

0:31:27.453 --> 0:31:30.453
<v Speaker 3>to be seen again. Every five years there's someone found

0:31:30.493 --> 0:31:35.333
<v Speaker 3>there wreckage, haven't they. I've read some fairly good reportage

0:31:35.413 --> 0:31:42.013
<v Speaker 3>on that about just what happens. This is a text markets.

0:31:42.013 --> 0:31:43.973
<v Speaker 3>Can they stop mentioning running it straight in the news

0:31:43.973 --> 0:31:46.293
<v Speaker 3>now it's gone totally destroyed. No, I think it's still

0:31:46.333 --> 0:31:50.133
<v Speaker 3>going badline for the North Pole need and back in

0:31:50.173 --> 0:31:55.933
<v Speaker 3>decemberfore his stories. Please so now there's probably the only

0:31:55.973 --> 0:31:58.613
<v Speaker 3>apartment department store that has left I would think in

0:31:58.653 --> 0:32:05.533
<v Speaker 3>the whole of the country would be Ballantine's, and that's

0:32:05.573 --> 0:32:08.773
<v Speaker 3>always looking lightly hollowed out these days. You might want

0:32:08.813 --> 0:32:14.213
<v Speaker 3>to mention that, Marcus. Lots of public sympathy for Smith

0:32:14.213 --> 0:32:16.813
<v Speaker 3>and Koey, but reality is consumers aren't shopping their hence

0:32:16.813 --> 0:32:20.413
<v Speaker 3>the closure. Well, there's only sympathy in the terms of nostalgia,

0:32:22.173 --> 0:32:24.613
<v Speaker 3>but people lamenting the end of Smith and Kowey as

0:32:24.613 --> 0:32:28.973
<v Speaker 3>they're filling out their order formers for Timu or whatever

0:32:29.013 --> 0:32:31.773
<v Speaker 3>they're doing online. I mean that's the reality. People have changed,

0:32:31.773 --> 0:32:34.573
<v Speaker 3>haven't they. They've gone about the roadworks in the parking,

0:32:34.573 --> 0:32:37.653
<v Speaker 3>but people want to buy stuff online. Our mess. You's

0:32:37.653 --> 0:32:39.853
<v Speaker 3>put Mesh in your top five comedies. Fair enough to

0:32:40.733 --> 0:32:42.453
<v Speaker 3>remember we all tune in for the last episode of

0:32:42.453 --> 0:32:44.293
<v Speaker 3>mass and there was no laugh line or that was

0:32:44.293 --> 0:32:46.933
<v Speaker 3>telling them that they were wow. Look at that no

0:32:47.093 --> 0:32:49.853
<v Speaker 3>laughs and that no fun in war, Clinger in the

0:32:49.933 --> 0:32:54.493
<v Speaker 3>dress Radar with his thick glasses difficult to work with.

0:32:54.613 --> 0:33:00.253
<v Speaker 3>They reckon hot lips. Hulahan, It's all coming back, Marcus.

0:33:00.293 --> 0:33:02.493
<v Speaker 3>Funny thing about robot dogs. One of the main dogs

0:33:02.493 --> 0:33:04.733
<v Speaker 3>made advantages. They can spell you out, kind of robots

0:33:04.733 --> 0:33:15.453
<v Speaker 3>spell you hiding in a bush? Still remember that terrible voice?

0:33:15.813 --> 0:33:20.293
<v Speaker 3>What what someone's referring to on that Someone said, I

0:33:20.293 --> 0:33:22.933
<v Speaker 3>would say that few American comedies are funny. Well, I

0:33:22.933 --> 0:33:25.253
<v Speaker 3>think most would disagree with you. Actually, I think we're

0:33:25.293 --> 0:33:29.133
<v Speaker 3>sort of beyond that. Only the Brits can do humor

0:33:29.213 --> 0:33:32.493
<v Speaker 3>type thing from the fifties. But oh well that's you

0:33:32.613 --> 0:33:35.453
<v Speaker 3>do you, you do you, and welcome you. Oh, by

0:33:35.493 --> 0:33:37.093
<v Speaker 3>the way, we know what was the movie that George

0:33:37.133 --> 0:33:45.773
<v Speaker 3>went filmed in New Zealand? And It was a big

0:33:45.813 --> 0:33:47.973
<v Speaker 3>deal at the time, but not a very good film.

0:33:48.493 --> 0:33:53.853
<v Speaker 3>Never Say Die with Tim with a Morrison. It was

0:33:53.893 --> 0:34:04.933
<v Speaker 3>a big deal. Never Say Die Jeff Murvie movie, The

0:34:04.973 --> 0:34:08.453
<v Speaker 3>Great Tony Barry. John Clark was a car salesman It

0:34:08.493 --> 0:34:10.373
<v Speaker 3>was kind of a police chase around the country with

0:34:10.453 --> 0:34:12.733
<v Speaker 3>a house in Grayland that blew up. You remember it,

0:34:12.813 --> 0:34:16.373
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty eight, Well you might remember it. It was

0:34:16.373 --> 0:34:20.813
<v Speaker 3>a good watch. Actually, I might rewatch it on the

0:34:20.813 --> 0:34:26.093
<v Speaker 3>back of that five to nine here till midnight. Good evening, John, welcome.

0:34:26.813 --> 0:34:28.533
<v Speaker 11>Him, Marcus. How are you using this?

0:34:28.773 --> 0:34:28.973
<v Speaker 7>Good?

0:34:29.013 --> 0:34:29.693
<v Speaker 3>Thank you John.

0:34:30.653 --> 0:34:30.893
<v Speaker 2>Good.

0:34:31.573 --> 0:34:39.253
<v Speaker 11>Now I'll start at the bottom in the things. Yes, yes,

0:34:40.333 --> 0:34:43.053
<v Speaker 11>Arthur Banet's was that that even top shop?

0:34:44.613 --> 0:34:45.653
<v Speaker 3>What the cargel?

0:34:46.973 --> 0:34:49.853
<v Speaker 11>No, No, I'm starting at Arthur Bannette.

0:34:49.853 --> 0:34:51.133
<v Speaker 3>Do you said you're starting at the bottom.

0:34:51.973 --> 0:34:53.933
<v Speaker 11>Well, no, I haven't got a bottom. That part with

0:34:54.013 --> 0:34:55.253
<v Speaker 11>the big guys, the big guy.

0:34:55.933 --> 0:34:58.413
<v Speaker 3>The big H and J's was one of the great

0:34:58.413 --> 0:35:00.373
<v Speaker 3>department stores in the country.

0:35:00.933 --> 0:35:02.573
<v Speaker 11>So Arthur Barnets was too.

0:35:02.893 --> 0:35:04.813
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think in the end H and J's

0:35:04.853 --> 0:35:08.893
<v Speaker 3>board Arthur Barnett. Okay, Ancient Jays, then Arthur Barnet and Duneda.

0:35:08.653 --> 0:35:15.613
<v Speaker 11>Yes, then Valentine's. In christ Church. Beasts were also in

0:35:15.693 --> 0:35:16.573
<v Speaker 11>christ Church.

0:35:16.853 --> 0:35:20.373
<v Speaker 3>Pattern Beasts how's that spelled.

0:35:21.093 --> 0:35:28.013
<v Speaker 11>B E A t HS, Beasts, Beasts and Armstrongs. They

0:35:28.013 --> 0:35:30.013
<v Speaker 11>were the top three in christ Church. I used to

0:35:30.053 --> 0:35:31.973
<v Speaker 11>work for such of these people.

0:35:32.813 --> 0:35:33.573
<v Speaker 19>Were you are ripped?

0:35:34.893 --> 0:35:34.973
<v Speaker 16>No.

0:35:35.253 --> 0:35:39.453
<v Speaker 11>I used to be a footwear buyer lady the Ladies.

0:35:39.733 --> 0:35:41.933
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I realized that I had.

0:35:41.813 --> 0:35:45.813
<v Speaker 11>Eighteen staff and then Valentine's in christ chirts eighteen staff.

0:35:48.853 --> 0:35:54.453
<v Speaker 3>Then Wellington, no christ Church? Are you moving up the country.

0:35:54.773 --> 0:36:01.253
<v Speaker 11>A Wellington you had Cocordias Stains, James Smith and d C.

0:36:03.213 --> 0:36:05.293
<v Speaker 3>Yes. And where else.

0:36:06.533 --> 0:36:09.853
<v Speaker 11>No they there main ones No. And then you went

0:36:09.893 --> 0:36:13.653
<v Speaker 11>to Paris North you had Joice's Joyces.

0:36:15.813 --> 0:36:16.613
<v Speaker 3>Right yep.

0:36:17.293 --> 0:36:20.333
<v Speaker 11>And then you went to Auckland and there's nothing in Hamilton,

0:36:20.413 --> 0:36:23.133
<v Speaker 11>no big stores in Hamilton. Then you went to walk

0:36:23.213 --> 0:36:26.973
<v Speaker 11>near Spit and Curries which was a beautiful shop, beautiful

0:36:27.013 --> 0:36:30.453
<v Speaker 11>shop and farmers. So they were the two big ones

0:36:30.453 --> 0:36:36.293
<v Speaker 11>in Auckland. And I used to sell all that or

0:36:37.253 --> 0:36:40.053
<v Speaker 11>predict what woman was going to be wearing in the

0:36:40.173 --> 0:36:43.613
<v Speaker 11>ladies foot where six months or nine months ahead?

0:36:43.773 --> 0:36:45.653
<v Speaker 3>Goodness? Do you still follow the trends?

0:36:46.893 --> 0:36:50.213
<v Speaker 11>No? I don't because I've eighty four now. Mean I'm

0:36:50.533 --> 0:36:52.813
<v Speaker 11>you know, but I hear you talking about and I

0:36:52.853 --> 0:36:55.853
<v Speaker 11>thought you couldn't get the one Undernead and I thought

0:36:56.013 --> 0:36:56.773
<v Speaker 11>Arthur Bannets.

0:36:57.373 --> 0:37:00.973
<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, John, I appreciate that. Just so

0:37:01.133 --> 0:37:03.893
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm not saying this to drive talk back,

0:37:05.693 --> 0:37:10.853
<v Speaker 3>traffic chatter or conversation, but I think it's undignant. And

0:37:10.893 --> 0:37:12.453
<v Speaker 3>this is going to sound weird for me because it's

0:37:12.453 --> 0:37:15.373
<v Speaker 3>going to sound pious and slightly righteous, and that's fine.

0:37:16.093 --> 0:37:21.293
<v Speaker 3>I think it lacks. I think it's undignified for our

0:37:21.333 --> 0:37:24.373
<v Speaker 3>finance minister to call it the no b S budget.

0:37:25.893 --> 0:37:28.773
<v Speaker 3>I know she's probably trying to sound tough and no nonsense,

0:37:29.853 --> 0:37:36.613
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, yeah, it just kind of sits wrong with me.

0:37:36.813 --> 0:37:38.533
<v Speaker 3>Not a big deal in the scheme of things. I mean,

0:37:38.533 --> 0:37:40.493
<v Speaker 3>why not call it the no bullshit budget? You wouldn't

0:37:40.493 --> 0:37:43.253
<v Speaker 3>say that, would you, So I abbreviate it. But yeah,

0:37:43.333 --> 0:37:45.173
<v Speaker 3>I kind of think she's miss a trick with that one,

0:37:45.773 --> 0:37:47.573
<v Speaker 3>and already by that's put her on the back foot

0:37:47.573 --> 0:37:50.173
<v Speaker 3>of it. But that's just my comment. It might be

0:37:50.213 --> 0:37:53.253
<v Speaker 3>one of the most compelling and exciting documents, but she

0:37:53.293 --> 0:37:57.733
<v Speaker 3>could have framed in a slightly more less confrontational, more

0:37:57.813 --> 0:38:03.533
<v Speaker 3>kind of growing up way. It's beneath the office she holds.

0:38:03.573 --> 0:38:07.493
<v Speaker 3>I think there you go. Any we are a good

0:38:07.533 --> 0:38:09.213
<v Speaker 3>text coming through. We are talking about the death of

0:38:09.253 --> 0:38:11.253
<v Speaker 3>the apartment store, and that very much has happened by

0:38:11.293 --> 0:38:13.053
<v Speaker 3>the way, this is an international thing. I think you

0:38:13.173 --> 0:38:16.653
<v Speaker 3>find that your David Jones in your minds and Australia

0:38:16.653 --> 0:38:18.013
<v Speaker 3>aren't quite what they used to be. I don't know

0:38:18.013 --> 0:38:22.333
<v Speaker 3>what's happened internationally. Herod's is still the thing. Of course,

0:38:22.333 --> 0:38:24.453
<v Speaker 3>that guy that owned it appeared to be fairly grubby,

0:38:24.493 --> 0:38:29.693
<v Speaker 3>didn't he now as he did now? I think Dodie's dad.

0:38:29.773 --> 0:38:31.773
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's sort of what's happening around the world.

0:38:31.813 --> 0:38:35.413
<v Speaker 3>I think as retail falls and will not retail falls,

0:38:35.413 --> 0:38:39.053
<v Speaker 3>but people buy online and go to the malls. So

0:38:39.053 --> 0:38:41.093
<v Speaker 3>someone has said that Hamilton did have a mall, so

0:38:41.133 --> 0:38:43.173
<v Speaker 3>you might want to ring about that. So I did

0:38:43.253 --> 0:38:47.853
<v Speaker 3>not have a mall at it did have an apartment

0:38:47.933 --> 0:38:52.333
<v Speaker 3>store at an apartment store with the DIC and a

0:38:52.373 --> 0:38:59.373
<v Speaker 3>lift attendant in Chandler House, very exclusive for Cowtown. By

0:38:59.413 --> 0:39:02.053
<v Speaker 3>the way, someone's texted me the entire copy of Never

0:39:02.093 --> 0:39:04.893
<v Speaker 3>Say Die, of the movie with George went in it,

0:39:05.293 --> 0:39:07.813
<v Speaker 3>and there's a scene with we'd a Morrison and a

0:39:07.893 --> 0:39:11.293
<v Speaker 3>car and another guy who I think is I can't

0:39:11.373 --> 0:39:15.413
<v Speaker 3>quite work out the actor doing that, but anyway, the

0:39:15.453 --> 0:39:17.653
<v Speaker 3>line that this guy uses three times a week, and

0:39:17.733 --> 0:39:19.453
<v Speaker 3>you might remember this from the movie never say die,

0:39:20.213 --> 0:39:26.733
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for Prognini strog Nostrovitch. Yeah, it's quite a

0:39:26.733 --> 0:39:29.693
<v Speaker 3>fun rob that one. At ten past nine summon Texters.

0:39:29.813 --> 0:39:33.853
<v Speaker 3>Agree with you about the budget title, just be genuine.

0:39:33.973 --> 0:39:37.013
<v Speaker 3>People really respond well to people that are genuine in themselves,

0:39:37.893 --> 0:39:41.133
<v Speaker 3>not full of bluster and pretense. Get in touch people.

0:39:41.173 --> 0:39:43.093
<v Speaker 3>My name is Marcus. Welcome Heedal midnight tonight. We are

0:39:43.133 --> 0:39:46.213
<v Speaker 3>discussing department stores. Smith and Coe's finally gone. There had

0:39:46.213 --> 0:39:48.773
<v Speaker 3>a second go of it. I bet they wish they hadn't. Actually,

0:39:53.133 --> 0:39:55.013
<v Speaker 3>there's probably good gesture of closed the store down when

0:39:55.053 --> 0:39:56.413
<v Speaker 3>they did, like a year or so ago, but that's

0:39:56.413 --> 0:39:58.173
<v Speaker 3>what did. They gave another another go. It didn't work,

0:39:58.173 --> 0:40:00.613
<v Speaker 3>But there's going to be a huge hole for a

0:40:00.733 --> 0:40:04.493
<v Speaker 3>winter wonderland or a center's workshop. I don't know where

0:40:04.493 --> 0:40:09.573
<v Speaker 3>they'd put one of those now, Marcus, I agree the

0:40:09.613 --> 0:40:11.973
<v Speaker 3>government talk about standards and call the new budget no

0:40:12.093 --> 0:40:18.373
<v Speaker 3>bs really, Susie, Yeah, it's just wrong. It's just the optics.

0:40:18.613 --> 0:40:23.493
<v Speaker 3>Well what's the sound version of optics? But it's all wrong. Marcus.

0:40:23.533 --> 0:40:24.973
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you about the name of the budget.

0:40:25.013 --> 0:40:27.253
<v Speaker 3>No nonsense budget would have been much more prepped, exactly

0:40:30.533 --> 0:40:32.933
<v Speaker 3>absolutely exactly. I mean that might be the fun talk

0:40:32.933 --> 0:40:34.573
<v Speaker 3>in the belt, whey you'll talk like that, but I

0:40:34.573 --> 0:40:37.653
<v Speaker 3>think people expect something a bit better, especially with old

0:40:37.693 --> 0:40:42.333
<v Speaker 3>Winston going on about that guy, sort of profaning him.

0:40:42.773 --> 0:40:47.213
<v Speaker 3>But yes, and you know, I might be prone to

0:40:48.573 --> 0:40:52.013
<v Speaker 3>colorful language off here, but it's a time and place

0:40:52.013 --> 0:40:53.733
<v Speaker 3>that I would indulge it on here because it's the

0:40:53.733 --> 0:40:56.533
<v Speaker 3>wrong kind of thing for it. When you start getting

0:40:56.533 --> 0:40:58.093
<v Speaker 3>involved with the language like that, it's always a race

0:40:58.133 --> 0:41:00.053
<v Speaker 3>to the bottom lines free if you want to talk

0:41:00.253 --> 0:41:03.893
<v Speaker 3>eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Marcus, I agree, it's

0:41:03.893 --> 0:41:10.013
<v Speaker 3>an odd thing to say for a finance person. Also,

0:41:10.133 --> 0:41:12.773
<v Speaker 3>balance sheet can be shortened to b S and finance

0:41:12.813 --> 0:41:15.173
<v Speaker 3>to speak. Thank you for that. Maybe it's a no

0:41:15.253 --> 0:41:19.093
<v Speaker 3>balance sheet budget. That's probably what she'll be criticized about tomorrow,

0:41:19.213 --> 0:41:21.013
<v Speaker 3>she said byes, But she might have been balance sheet.

0:41:21.333 --> 0:41:23.653
<v Speaker 3>The juniors would be picking that up. By the way,

0:41:23.693 --> 0:41:30.173
<v Speaker 3>discovered something today, the battery save mode on your cell phone.

0:41:30.813 --> 0:41:34.413
<v Speaker 3>You go into set trees, you go into battery. Is

0:41:34.453 --> 0:41:40.653
<v Speaker 3>there any downside to that? Marcus? Pressly, I'm not bothered

0:41:40.653 --> 0:41:43.573
<v Speaker 3>too much with Nicholas no Bs where I do find issue,

0:41:43.573 --> 0:41:46.013
<v Speaker 3>whether it's the PEM and others across the media saying

0:41:46.133 --> 0:41:48.133
<v Speaker 3>furking or is it fricking? Which you want as a

0:41:48.213 --> 0:41:55.013
<v Speaker 3>placement for the F word? Just saying cheers Terry. Yeah,

0:41:55.173 --> 0:41:56.733
<v Speaker 3>well they try and get down with the people, don't

0:41:56.733 --> 0:41:58.693
<v Speaker 3>They just come across looking like Gidiat's that's my take

0:41:58.773 --> 0:42:04.573
<v Speaker 3>on that. John, it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

0:42:07.813 --> 0:42:10.813
<v Speaker 20>Is that you talking to Steward to John?

0:42:11.013 --> 0:42:12.173
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm talking to John.

0:42:12.213 --> 0:42:14.453
<v Speaker 20>Oh, okay, I didn't expect you to come up that correct.

0:42:16.893 --> 0:42:24.013
<v Speaker 20>But on the subject of AI, I heard that somebody

0:42:25.093 --> 0:42:27.653
<v Speaker 20>had been defending their position of their security in the

0:42:27.733 --> 0:42:35.253
<v Speaker 20>workplace because because they had so much experience, and I

0:42:35.413 --> 0:42:38.333
<v Speaker 20>immediately sawt a'll ring in and I thought it was

0:42:38.373 --> 0:42:41.653
<v Speaker 20>your program, But maybe it wasn't, and it doesn't matter.

0:42:42.973 --> 0:42:46.293
<v Speaker 20>The thing is I immediately saw it. This is where

0:42:46.373 --> 0:42:52.053
<v Speaker 20>AI can actually help people that have got a huge

0:42:52.093 --> 0:42:57.093
<v Speaker 20>amount of knowledge to spread that knowledge more widely and

0:42:57.253 --> 0:42:59.653
<v Speaker 20>more accurately than they can as an individual.

0:43:00.453 --> 0:43:03.013
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, do you agree with that?

0:43:05.613 --> 0:43:09.413
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe tell me more about this. Well, who was

0:43:09.453 --> 0:43:11.373
<v Speaker 3>saying they weren't going to get replaced by AI? I'm

0:43:11.413 --> 0:43:12.053
<v Speaker 3>interested in that.

0:43:12.933 --> 0:43:13.133
<v Speaker 2>Ah.

0:43:14.773 --> 0:43:16.293
<v Speaker 5>He was a guy that works in.

0:43:18.933 --> 0:43:24.493
<v Speaker 20>Detecting leaky buildings, yes, and he considered himself to be

0:43:24.613 --> 0:43:28.213
<v Speaker 20>quite an expert at it, and he didn't feel threatened

0:43:29.333 --> 0:43:33.533
<v Speaker 20>by the concept of AI because he was pretty onto it.

0:43:34.293 --> 0:43:37.973
<v Speaker 20>But the thing is he could be miles more onto

0:43:38.053 --> 0:43:41.493
<v Speaker 20>it if he used AI to be able to be

0:43:41.893 --> 0:43:44.013
<v Speaker 20>more places at the same time.

0:43:43.933 --> 0:43:45.773
<v Speaker 3>More accurately, exactly.

0:43:47.213 --> 0:43:47.373
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:43:47.773 --> 0:43:50.013
<v Speaker 20>And so that I just kind of sort all of

0:43:50.133 --> 0:43:51.693
<v Speaker 20>ring in because I think you've opened it up to

0:43:51.733 --> 0:43:55.573
<v Speaker 20>a bit of general topic rather than something and the

0:43:55.693 --> 0:43:55.973
<v Speaker 20>thing for.

0:43:56.053 --> 0:43:58.853
<v Speaker 3>Me and talk back. I don't know with AI if

0:43:58.933 --> 0:44:02.253
<v Speaker 3>the AI will replace the callers or the host or both.

0:44:04.453 --> 0:44:05.613
<v Speaker 4>So I've got a really.

0:44:05.413 --> 0:44:10.253
<v Speaker 20>Good friend at a very successful winemaker in the Hawk's Bay,

0:44:10.893 --> 0:44:15.533
<v Speaker 20>and I was through going to his sieve India's birthday party.

0:44:16.933 --> 0:44:19.613
<v Speaker 20>I meet a person from AI who's based in New

0:44:19.693 --> 0:44:24.133
<v Speaker 20>Zealand that's Worldwide board and he's very good about AI.

0:44:24.773 --> 0:44:28.013
<v Speaker 20>And so I said to my friend, very close friend.

0:44:28.533 --> 0:44:30.733
<v Speaker 20>I said to him, you know, like, if you're coming

0:44:30.813 --> 0:44:34.573
<v Speaker 20>up to retirement, you possibly need to look at AI

0:44:34.853 --> 0:44:37.293
<v Speaker 20>because you need to be in several places at once

0:44:38.533 --> 0:44:41.533
<v Speaker 20>and you really want to be spending more time with

0:44:41.733 --> 0:44:46.093
<v Speaker 20>your loved ones and not working so hard and he said, well,

0:44:46.133 --> 0:44:49.093
<v Speaker 20>how would that work? And I said, well, I think

0:44:49.133 --> 0:44:53.173
<v Speaker 20>AI probably presents the opportunity because you can people can

0:44:53.213 --> 0:44:57.293
<v Speaker 20>get access to your knowledge and without you actually being there.

0:45:00.133 --> 0:45:00.373
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:45:00.653 --> 0:45:02.493
<v Speaker 3>Were you saying that to the winemaker or to the

0:45:02.573 --> 0:45:03.133
<v Speaker 3>AI guy?

0:45:04.173 --> 0:45:07.453
<v Speaker 20>No, to the wine maker. Okay, that's one night I

0:45:07.573 --> 0:45:10.933
<v Speaker 20>was talking to the AI guy who is one of

0:45:11.013 --> 0:45:14.013
<v Speaker 20>his closest friends. And the next night I talked to

0:45:14.093 --> 0:45:17.173
<v Speaker 20>him and said, well, you know, this is possibly the

0:45:17.213 --> 0:45:20.373
<v Speaker 20>way that you can retire and your your expertise and

0:45:20.573 --> 0:45:26.853
<v Speaker 20>your future aspirations actually carry on with greater access to

0:45:26.973 --> 0:45:30.813
<v Speaker 20>the people without overloading you and your retirement years.

0:45:32.653 --> 0:45:33.533
<v Speaker 5>That's quite powerful.

0:45:33.933 --> 0:45:37.053
<v Speaker 3>Oh powerful, all right? Be the end of civilization? Probably?

0:45:38.093 --> 0:45:40.613
<v Speaker 20>Oh well, I just you know what is going to

0:45:40.653 --> 0:45:42.733
<v Speaker 20>be the end of civilization when you look at what's

0:45:42.773 --> 0:45:43.453
<v Speaker 20>going on around the.

0:45:43.453 --> 0:45:48.053
<v Speaker 3>World, Probably probably AI when they become well be what's

0:45:48.173 --> 0:45:51.333
<v Speaker 3>what's the word, when they become sentient?

0:45:52.933 --> 0:45:53.133
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:45:53.333 --> 0:45:53.613
<v Speaker 19>I mean.

0:45:53.893 --> 0:45:56.573
<v Speaker 20>And then there was somebody in the in the discussion

0:45:56.653 --> 0:46:02.653
<v Speaker 20>somewhere along the line talking about about no idea in

0:46:02.733 --> 0:46:07.213
<v Speaker 20>the same subject was people are saying AI isn't a

0:46:07.293 --> 0:46:10.293
<v Speaker 20>bit of a threat because but you know.

0:46:10.453 --> 0:46:13.013
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like a pretty dry party if this is

0:46:13.053 --> 0:46:14.773
<v Speaker 3>a party and a wine or eat cheapers.

0:46:17.053 --> 0:46:20.133
<v Speaker 5>No, no, I just said that I was at that party.

0:46:20.533 --> 0:46:22.573
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, but it sounds like quite a serious topic.

0:46:24.373 --> 0:46:26.413
<v Speaker 20>Oh No, it wasn't at the party itself. It was

0:46:26.493 --> 0:46:31.853
<v Speaker 20>the next day the party summer lunch event, where I

0:46:32.013 --> 0:46:35.853
<v Speaker 20>just kind of got closer to this guy that's involved

0:46:35.853 --> 0:46:38.293
<v Speaker 20>with AI and he said, well, at the end of

0:46:38.293 --> 0:46:40.453
<v Speaker 20>the day, don't be scared of it instead of what

0:46:40.693 --> 0:46:44.013
<v Speaker 20>it is if you're not using it, because if you

0:46:44.333 --> 0:46:48.493
<v Speaker 20>if you're really successful at something and truly successful, not

0:46:48.573 --> 0:46:52.933
<v Speaker 20>a cono, then you really do want to share that

0:46:53.173 --> 0:46:58.333
<v Speaker 20>knowledge of your expertise in that. They'll say, like wine making,

0:46:59.933 --> 0:47:02.573
<v Speaker 20>that's what a winemaker is. A winemaker is a person

0:47:02.693 --> 0:47:07.213
<v Speaker 20>that's involved in the storyline in a marketing line and

0:47:07.373 --> 0:47:10.493
<v Speaker 20>it's got enough experience to be winning all the awards.

0:47:12.373 --> 0:47:13.813
<v Speaker 3>Live at the Stuart. But nice to talk to you.

0:47:13.933 --> 0:47:16.133
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for that news from the New South Wales

0:47:16.253 --> 0:47:22.173
<v Speaker 3>Mid Coast. In Australia, Mid mid Coast chaos as cows

0:47:22.333 --> 0:47:26.453
<v Speaker 3>washed up on beaches. Where did the cows come from?

0:47:28.453 --> 0:47:38.173
<v Speaker 3>They're walking jeeves, Lola, Yes, you.

0:47:38.213 --> 0:47:41.933
<v Speaker 7>Were asking about that departmental store in Devon Street.

0:47:42.213 --> 0:47:43.093
<v Speaker 3>Yes, thank you.

0:47:46.013 --> 0:47:48.893
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I can hardly hear you.

0:47:49.173 --> 0:47:55.493
<v Speaker 3>I wonder what it is. Oh was it really?

0:47:57.053 --> 0:47:57.293
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:47:58.093 --> 0:47:59.493
<v Speaker 3>Well you can't hear me. Can you hear me now?

0:48:01.293 --> 0:48:01.613
<v Speaker 5>Adam?

0:48:01.853 --> 0:48:03.493
<v Speaker 7>I can hear you better now, okay?

0:48:03.613 --> 0:48:03.853
<v Speaker 6>Cool?

0:48:04.373 --> 0:48:05.453
<v Speaker 3>Where did it close down?

0:48:07.573 --> 0:48:11.133
<v Speaker 7>I don't know because I wasn't in the Taranaki district

0:48:11.293 --> 0:48:11.813
<v Speaker 7>at the time.

0:48:12.293 --> 0:48:15.773
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but it did have the police system. Is that right?

0:48:18.053 --> 0:48:20.653
<v Speaker 7>Yes, they put the receipts and the thing paul a

0:48:20.733 --> 0:48:22.573
<v Speaker 7>lever and away it went to the office.

0:48:22.853 --> 0:48:25.933
<v Speaker 3>Okay. Why did they not trust the workers with money

0:48:26.053 --> 0:48:27.573
<v Speaker 3>or was just was it just simpler that way?

0:48:28.893 --> 0:48:31.093
<v Speaker 7>You'd put the money in there and they and they'd

0:48:31.133 --> 0:48:32.413
<v Speaker 7>send the change back in it.

0:48:33.013 --> 0:48:34.813
<v Speaker 3>It seems like a complicated way to do it, doesn't it.

0:48:36.613 --> 0:48:38.933
<v Speaker 7>Well that's how they did it. I don't know any

0:48:39.013 --> 0:48:40.933
<v Speaker 7>other store that operated that system.

0:48:41.533 --> 0:48:43.693
<v Speaker 3>No, Well, find and it was it was on basket.

0:48:43.973 --> 0:48:45.173
<v Speaker 3>Was it on bulldog clips?

0:48:48.573 --> 0:48:51.533
<v Speaker 7>No, it was a little round tin sort of thing,

0:48:51.853 --> 0:48:56.653
<v Speaker 7>and and it just oh, you just pulled the lever

0:48:56.813 --> 0:48:58.453
<v Speaker 7>and it went was into the office.

0:48:59.013 --> 0:49:01.173
<v Speaker 3>Okay, maybe we might find something that worked in the

0:49:01.173 --> 0:49:02.853
<v Speaker 3>office and know what they actually did there. Thank you

0:49:02.973 --> 0:49:07.493
<v Speaker 3>for that, good evening, grace. This is Marcus welcome, good evening, Marcus.

0:49:08.933 --> 0:49:12.253
<v Speaker 21>I've lived in Auckland all my life except when I

0:49:12.333 --> 0:49:15.013
<v Speaker 21>came from My parents came from Gisbon when i was

0:49:15.093 --> 0:49:17.693
<v Speaker 21>five years old, so I've got eighty years of memories

0:49:17.733 --> 0:49:22.613
<v Speaker 21>of Smith and CEY's. Wow, I've tried to think what

0:49:22.893 --> 0:49:28.653
<v Speaker 21>that the payment procedure was at Smith and Colly's. That

0:49:28.733 --> 0:49:31.853
<v Speaker 21>the lady has just been trying to describe about a

0:49:31.973 --> 0:49:36.413
<v Speaker 21>cylinder on a line that was sent upstairs to the offices,

0:49:36.853 --> 0:49:42.813
<v Speaker 21>So the money was actually had handled upstairs. So that

0:49:43.333 --> 0:49:45.253
<v Speaker 21>was the money part of it. But the other things

0:49:45.333 --> 0:49:48.493
<v Speaker 21>I've thought about since I heard you talking about Smith

0:49:48.533 --> 0:49:52.213
<v Speaker 21>and CEY's is all the stuff that will especially I

0:49:52.293 --> 0:49:56.053
<v Speaker 21>remember the female staff were all always dressed very smartly

0:49:56.133 --> 0:50:01.733
<v Speaker 21>in black uniforms. The toilets were penny in the slot,

0:50:03.253 --> 0:50:08.733
<v Speaker 21>which was I can imagine that these days. And they

0:50:08.813 --> 0:50:13.733
<v Speaker 21>had a very nice ladies' restroom where mums could feed

0:50:13.813 --> 0:50:16.573
<v Speaker 21>their babies and change their babies, which was part of

0:50:16.773 --> 0:50:26.413
<v Speaker 21>the toilet complex area. The counters were old fashion. Behind

0:50:26.453 --> 0:50:31.893
<v Speaker 21>the counters were old fashion drawers that held gloves in

0:50:32.013 --> 0:50:36.733
<v Speaker 21>one one drawer and scarves in another, and that sort

0:50:36.733 --> 0:50:42.853
<v Speaker 21>of thing. The old fashion type of holding, you know,

0:50:43.093 --> 0:50:45.893
<v Speaker 21>the products that they had. Some of the Coe's was

0:50:46.813 --> 0:50:51.733
<v Speaker 21>has always been a high end retailer. There was, of course.

0:50:51.813 --> 0:50:54.533
<v Speaker 21>The others were, and I've grown up with all of them.

0:50:55.133 --> 0:51:00.933
<v Speaker 21>Was the Farmers, George and John Courts and Randolph's, which

0:51:01.253 --> 0:51:03.373
<v Speaker 21>you could class those as sort of more of a

0:51:04.213 --> 0:51:09.893
<v Speaker 21>working person's department store. And I know about George and

0:51:09.973 --> 0:51:13.773
<v Speaker 21>John Courts because I grew up just along the road

0:51:13.813 --> 0:51:16.053
<v Speaker 21>from where George Courts used to be, on the corner

0:51:16.093 --> 0:51:17.933
<v Speaker 21>of Front Street and Crangapi Road.

0:51:18.173 --> 0:51:19.853
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, yeah.

0:51:20.933 --> 0:51:25.133
<v Speaker 21>John Court's, for memory, was halfway down Queen Street. I

0:51:25.293 --> 0:51:27.293
<v Speaker 21>think eventually it became whit Calls.

0:51:27.813 --> 0:51:28.213
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes.

0:51:29.893 --> 0:51:32.653
<v Speaker 21>There should be quite a lot of people round about

0:51:32.773 --> 0:51:36.213
<v Speaker 21>my age in the eighties and nineties that have lovely

0:51:36.333 --> 0:51:40.973
<v Speaker 21>memories of those places. A closer memory of George and

0:51:41.093 --> 0:51:45.693
<v Speaker 21>John Courts is there's a Court Crescent in Pamua and

0:51:45.933 --> 0:51:50.573
<v Speaker 21>the original Court Home is actually on Court Crescent.

0:51:51.173 --> 0:51:54.613
<v Speaker 3>Okay, how do you know, so, Elia, are you a historian?

0:51:54.653 --> 0:51:55.813
<v Speaker 3>Because you know a lot, don't you.

0:51:56.933 --> 0:51:57.133
<v Speaker 16>Yeah.

0:51:58.573 --> 0:52:02.133
<v Speaker 21>Up until ten or plus, I belonged to the local

0:52:02.333 --> 0:52:04.013
<v Speaker 21>Historical Society.

0:52:05.293 --> 0:52:08.213
<v Speaker 3>In which area this is Pamua.

0:52:08.333 --> 0:52:10.813
<v Speaker 21>I actually live in Court Present. I actually live in

0:52:10.893 --> 0:52:14.933
<v Speaker 21>Court present and right opposite me is the Court what

0:52:15.133 --> 0:52:19.533
<v Speaker 21>I've always called it the Court Homestead. It would originally

0:52:19.653 --> 0:52:24.693
<v Speaker 21>been surrounded by acres of farmland, and because it's near

0:52:24.733 --> 0:52:28.213
<v Speaker 21>the foot of Mount Wellington, and because that's where you know,

0:52:28.373 --> 0:52:31.813
<v Speaker 21>the horse breeding and a hunt club was and all

0:52:31.893 --> 0:52:38.413
<v Speaker 21>those sort of things in the market gardens. So I've

0:52:38.453 --> 0:52:41.573
<v Speaker 21>really got some wonderful memories of Smith and Coey's.

0:52:41.573 --> 0:52:42.133
<v Speaker 3>It was lovely.

0:52:42.373 --> 0:52:44.773
<v Speaker 21>It was a treat when I got older and when

0:52:44.813 --> 0:52:48.613
<v Speaker 21>I was working to go to Smith and Coey's for

0:52:48.733 --> 0:52:49.413
<v Speaker 21>a cup of tea.

0:52:50.133 --> 0:52:52.653
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I've very good. Nice to hear from you, Grace,

0:52:52.693 --> 0:52:55.293
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for those meenories. Twenty six to ten. There

0:52:55.373 --> 0:52:57.693
<v Speaker 3>is a big website you can go to about have

0:52:57.813 --> 0:53:01.293
<v Speaker 3>all the different shops and the different systems they had.

0:53:01.333 --> 0:53:03.413
<v Speaker 3>A lot of them had something called a cash railway,

0:53:04.813 --> 0:53:08.533
<v Speaker 3>which we think different from the pumatic system. It's a

0:53:08.893 --> 0:53:12.853
<v Speaker 3>remarkable website. But a lot of them had the kesh railway,

0:53:13.093 --> 0:53:15.893
<v Speaker 3>a lot of them had a wire system, a lot

0:53:15.933 --> 0:53:19.133
<v Speaker 3>of them had a cable system, and some had the

0:53:19.173 --> 0:53:27.053
<v Speaker 3>pneumatic system. All extremely interesting. Actually, good evening, Billet's Marcus, welcome, Yeah.

0:53:26.933 --> 0:53:32.293
<v Speaker 5>Good evening. Sorry, I'm just telling you, going to explain.

0:53:32.773 --> 0:53:38.173
<v Speaker 5>The pulling system was made by a company from the

0:53:38.213 --> 0:53:42.933
<v Speaker 5>East end of London called Lambson Paragon. Yes, they made

0:53:43.013 --> 0:53:46.973
<v Speaker 5>that system in all the department stores around the world actually,

0:53:47.413 --> 0:53:48.933
<v Speaker 5>and that was the later That was.

0:53:48.973 --> 0:53:51.053
<v Speaker 3>The Pulley system, not the pneumatic system.

0:53:51.613 --> 0:53:54.373
<v Speaker 5>No, the pneumatic system came later, and that was with

0:53:54.573 --> 0:53:55.573
<v Speaker 5>air and tubes.

0:53:55.973 --> 0:53:58.173
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so the same couple did it, did they?

0:53:58.933 --> 0:54:02.173
<v Speaker 5>I believe so I'm not sure on that. But the

0:54:02.253 --> 0:54:09.773
<v Speaker 5>original what was Lambson Paragon, and they were called Lemson

0:54:09.973 --> 0:54:11.253
<v Speaker 5>Paragon and they're.

0:54:11.093 --> 0:54:13.653
<v Speaker 3>Called cash railways. That was a general name for them.

0:54:13.693 --> 0:54:13.813
<v Speaker 2>Was it.

0:54:14.533 --> 0:54:17.013
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't know what they called it. It's just a

0:54:17.133 --> 0:54:20.133
<v Speaker 5>wire system and they pulled it like it sprung away

0:54:21.053 --> 0:54:22.013
<v Speaker 5>back to the cashier.

0:54:23.773 --> 0:54:25.973
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, that's fascinating. I appreciate that, Thank you, Bill.

0:54:26.173 --> 0:54:27.853
<v Speaker 3>Some of them seem to have balls that would roll

0:54:27.973 --> 0:54:33.173
<v Speaker 3>down too. The cash ball system manufactured in the thirties.

0:54:33.813 --> 0:54:36.373
<v Speaker 3>The cash is conveyed in the hollow wooden balls running

0:54:36.373 --> 0:54:39.773
<v Speaker 3>along a pair of inclined tracks. The top one slopes

0:54:39.813 --> 0:54:41.893
<v Speaker 3>down from sales point to kesha and the bottom slopes

0:54:41.893 --> 0:54:45.613
<v Speaker 3>the other way. They were literally kind of railways gravity

0:54:45.653 --> 0:54:49.573
<v Speaker 3>fed Railways. Hello, Willie, it's Marcus welcome.

0:54:50.853 --> 0:54:52.613
<v Speaker 19>Hey, did I buddy? Here you go? Mate?

0:54:52.733 --> 0:54:52.893
<v Speaker 2>Good?

0:54:52.933 --> 0:54:55.893
<v Speaker 3>Thanks, Willy, Hey, just.

0:54:55.933 --> 0:54:58.493
<v Speaker 15>One of those pictures here. I run a restaurant and

0:54:58.733 --> 0:55:03.093
<v Speaker 15>towering on the waterfront, and the name of the restaurant

0:55:03.253 --> 0:55:04.333
<v Speaker 15>was called Lemson's.

0:55:05.053 --> 0:55:05.493
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes.

0:55:06.693 --> 0:55:10.493
<v Speaker 15>And in the day, the Lensns they were on why

0:55:10.533 --> 0:55:15.413
<v Speaker 15>are police? And the lady down below she would put

0:55:15.453 --> 0:55:18.493
<v Speaker 15>the money in the Lensen thing and she'd send it

0:55:18.693 --> 0:55:20.093
<v Speaker 15>up to the teller up top.

0:55:22.813 --> 0:55:23.053
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:55:24.413 --> 0:55:28.773
<v Speaker 15>And they are actually called Lensen's. Yeah, and.

0:55:32.213 --> 0:55:32.453
<v Speaker 2>You go.

0:55:34.973 --> 0:55:38.213
<v Speaker 15>Believe it or not. Like this restaurant under I took

0:55:38.293 --> 0:55:42.333
<v Speaker 15>over very upmarket restaurant. They still had all them in there,

0:55:42.853 --> 0:55:47.973
<v Speaker 15>and sometimes people are a bit naughty with them, you know,

0:55:48.213 --> 0:55:50.533
<v Speaker 15>put a bit of undergarment on and send it right

0:55:50.573 --> 0:55:52.173
<v Speaker 15>across the obston at the restaurant.

0:55:53.133 --> 0:55:55.253
<v Speaker 3>So when was this that it was still going, Willie?

0:55:56.573 --> 0:55:59.933
<v Speaker 15>I know it was closed down, but they still were.

0:56:01.333 --> 0:56:04.093
<v Speaker 15>They still had the lenses working, but it was just

0:56:04.453 --> 0:56:06.933
<v Speaker 15>a feature in the restaurant. And it's called land Jair.

0:56:07.653 --> 0:56:13.333
<v Speaker 3>But whenabouts was this, Willy, pardon, when was this restaurant open?

0:56:14.653 --> 0:56:14.813
<v Speaker 11>Oh?

0:56:15.453 --> 0:56:20.413
<v Speaker 15>You're going back to nineties, early nineties, Okay, but it

0:56:20.413 --> 0:56:23.053
<v Speaker 15>had always been there as it always been there on

0:56:23.173 --> 0:56:26.053
<v Speaker 15>the waterfront. Hey, can I ask you something else?

0:56:26.213 --> 0:56:26.413
<v Speaker 19>Mate?

0:56:26.613 --> 0:56:28.813
<v Speaker 3>Can I just stick with us for a Secah? The question,

0:56:29.373 --> 0:56:31.973
<v Speaker 3>so would this place? Was it a new medic tuber?

0:56:32.133 --> 0:56:37.493
<v Speaker 3>Was it right at Whys and Pulleys? Yes, yep it

0:56:37.613 --> 0:56:38.613
<v Speaker 3>was Wyse and Pulleys.

0:56:38.693 --> 0:56:42.773
<v Speaker 15>Correct Roger that yes, yep, definitely mate, Yes.

0:56:43.093 --> 0:56:46.053
<v Speaker 3>And before it was a restaurant was it a department store?

0:56:47.013 --> 0:56:48.133
<v Speaker 15>Yes? It was yes.

0:56:49.213 --> 0:56:50.173
<v Speaker 3>Okay, what's your question?

0:56:53.133 --> 0:56:53.333
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:56:54.093 --> 0:56:56.893
<v Speaker 15>And rug me, okay, this is going off the chart,

0:56:57.653 --> 0:57:00.933
<v Speaker 15>and rugged me like if a rugby will come down

0:57:01.053 --> 0:57:03.173
<v Speaker 15>HiT's one of the planes square in the head and

0:57:03.253 --> 0:57:06.813
<v Speaker 15>whatever would they would they go take love for?

0:57:07.573 --> 0:57:07.933
<v Speaker 2>You know that?

0:57:08.213 --> 0:57:12.773
<v Speaker 15>He and look at the reader masking this is my daughter.

0:57:14.133 --> 0:57:17.213
<v Speaker 15>She knows a friend that's a good one. With players

0:57:17.253 --> 0:57:22.293
<v Speaker 15>in the Penwich soccer and higgetspan headaches and all if

0:57:22.333 --> 0:57:26.533
<v Speaker 15>she said was how can they hit up balls all

0:57:26.613 --> 0:57:29.973
<v Speaker 15>the time? But any rugby players get one knock and

0:57:30.173 --> 0:57:31.613
<v Speaker 15>they get tacking off your checked.

0:57:32.053 --> 0:57:34.213
<v Speaker 3>I think there is concerns about head knocks with the

0:57:34.293 --> 0:57:36.573
<v Speaker 3>ball and football. And I don't think they practice hitting

0:57:36.653 --> 0:57:38.933
<v Speaker 3>at practice. They just do it at matches because they've

0:57:38.973 --> 0:57:43.053
<v Speaker 3>realized they could get repercussions from it. It is something

0:57:43.093 --> 0:57:45.773
<v Speaker 3>that's recognized and they are looking about for that, Willie.

0:57:45.813 --> 0:57:51.013
<v Speaker 3>But thank you, Vicki. It's Marcus. Good evening, Good evening, Marcus.

0:57:51.533 --> 0:57:54.333
<v Speaker 22>I'm wondering up to say that my first job after

0:57:54.453 --> 0:57:58.533
<v Speaker 22>leaving school was operating the wire cash railway system in

0:57:58.613 --> 0:57:59.813
<v Speaker 22>a department store.

0:58:00.253 --> 0:58:00.733
<v Speaker 3>Fantastic.

0:58:00.813 --> 0:58:01.893
<v Speaker 20>We worked in the office of.

0:58:01.973 --> 0:58:05.853
<v Speaker 22>The office junior receptionist and all the money came in

0:58:05.973 --> 0:58:10.773
<v Speaker 22>on the wire system is actually called a Lemsen rapid

0:58:10.933 --> 0:58:12.573
<v Speaker 22>wire cash railway system.

0:58:14.093 --> 0:58:15.773
<v Speaker 3>Is it lents and with two ends or.

0:58:17.573 --> 0:58:19.893
<v Speaker 7>Now l A M S O N.

0:58:21.133 --> 0:58:22.373
<v Speaker 3>So it was called a lamps on.

0:58:24.013 --> 0:58:27.973
<v Speaker 22>Red rapid wire cash railway system.

0:58:29.493 --> 0:58:32.053
<v Speaker 3>So whereabouts were you what's what building?

0:58:32.533 --> 0:58:38.053
<v Speaker 22>I was in Thames and in tims coramanal Manicola, and

0:58:38.413 --> 0:58:40.493
<v Speaker 22>I worked in a shop called a Court and Son,

0:58:40.573 --> 0:58:44.453
<v Speaker 22>and it was it had four or five different departments

0:58:44.973 --> 0:58:50.933
<v Speaker 22>means where ladies wear material, habitashery, and they all had that.

0:58:51.213 --> 0:58:53.133
<v Speaker 22>They all had that little thing. You screw it up,

0:58:53.373 --> 0:58:58.133
<v Speaker 22>fulled canister and it screwed up and then you pulled

0:58:58.173 --> 0:59:00.573
<v Speaker 22>the cord and it went into the office where I sat.

0:59:00.653 --> 0:59:03.493
<v Speaker 22>And they had a docket that came with the money,

0:59:03.613 --> 0:59:06.773
<v Speaker 22>and you made sure that they'd added the docket up correctly,

0:59:06.853 --> 0:59:09.613
<v Speaker 22>and then you put the change in the folded it

0:59:09.693 --> 0:59:11.213
<v Speaker 22>all up in the docket and put it back in

0:59:11.333 --> 0:59:13.453
<v Speaker 22>the canister and screwed it up and pulled the wire

0:59:13.493 --> 0:59:15.933
<v Speaker 22>and it shot off to the department that came from.

0:59:16.733 --> 0:59:19.533
<v Speaker 3>And just to clarify, was it on a pulley or

0:59:19.653 --> 0:59:20.853
<v Speaker 3>was it a eumatic system?

0:59:21.853 --> 0:59:21.893
<v Speaker 16>No?

0:59:22.093 --> 0:59:24.373
<v Speaker 22>Police, it was on a police put the scud down

0:59:24.413 --> 0:59:25.693
<v Speaker 22>and off it went like a rocket.

0:59:26.493 --> 0:59:28.253
<v Speaker 3>And yet how was the canister?

0:59:28.373 --> 0:59:28.493
<v Speaker 16>Hell?

0:59:28.613 --> 0:59:29.933
<v Speaker 3>Was it clipped onto the system?

0:59:30.813 --> 0:59:32.893
<v Speaker 22>No, it's screwed on and you unscrewed it.

0:59:33.133 --> 0:59:37.573
<v Speaker 3>Okay, And how many different how many different tracks would

0:59:37.573 --> 0:59:40.333
<v Speaker 3>be because each track had the same there in return

0:59:40.453 --> 0:59:40.853
<v Speaker 3>one did it?

0:59:43.413 --> 0:59:46.373
<v Speaker 22>Yeah, it had its own separate returns. So okay, they

0:59:46.413 --> 0:59:49.733
<v Speaker 22>all came into the one. Only one could go at

0:59:49.773 --> 0:59:50.213
<v Speaker 22>one time.

0:59:50.533 --> 0:59:52.573
<v Speaker 5>But if you had a sale day, that's okay.

0:59:52.613 --> 0:59:53.693
<v Speaker 20>They were going pretty fast.

0:59:53.973 --> 0:59:56.093
<v Speaker 3>But how many different lines were coming in? Like half

0:59:56.133 --> 0:59:57.973
<v Speaker 3>a dozen different lines coming in? Were there?

0:59:59.173 --> 0:59:59.373
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:59:59.413 --> 0:59:59.613
<v Speaker 11>Four?

1:00:00.053 --> 1:00:01.613
<v Speaker 5>Four okay, came in from each parts.

1:00:01.773 --> 1:00:04.573
<v Speaker 22>Well, there was four departments from memory, and they came

1:00:04.653 --> 1:00:07.933
<v Speaker 22>in a line coming from each the par artment they

1:00:07.973 --> 1:00:10.853
<v Speaker 22>had a little little hole. The office sat up high

1:00:10.893 --> 1:00:14.293
<v Speaker 22>and the little hole had a little cut out in

1:00:14.373 --> 1:00:14.773
<v Speaker 22>the wall.

1:00:14.853 --> 1:00:15.573
<v Speaker 5>And where it came for.

1:00:15.693 --> 1:00:17.613
<v Speaker 22>It came in from that department.

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<v Speaker 3>How was it powered?

1:00:21.733 --> 1:00:22.573
<v Speaker 22>Yes, spring powered?

1:00:22.853 --> 1:00:25.693
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, so it's just okay, So it was spring power.

1:00:25.693 --> 1:00:28.173
<v Speaker 3>There's a pull that go ah okay.

1:00:28.413 --> 1:00:31.413
<v Speaker 6>So it was pulled down and went like a rocket.

1:00:31.493 --> 1:00:35.013
<v Speaker 22>Yeah, straight down to the to the department. And then

1:00:35.133 --> 1:00:42.413
<v Speaker 22>that person unscrewed it and got the money out. Yeah, yes, yeah.

1:00:42.733 --> 1:00:45.093
<v Speaker 3>Why why would they a thing? Was that because there

1:00:45.133 --> 1:00:46.893
<v Speaker 3>were no cash registers in those days.

1:00:47.653 --> 1:00:51.013
<v Speaker 22>Yeah, there was no cash register at each counter. No,

1:00:51.253 --> 1:00:53.973
<v Speaker 22>that's how they operated it. The cash just came up.

1:00:54.013 --> 1:00:54.613
<v Speaker 5>To the office.

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<v Speaker 22>And yeah, you were responsible for giving back the correct

1:00:58.053 --> 1:01:01.013
<v Speaker 22>change and making sure they had added the docket up

1:01:01.053 --> 1:01:03.333
<v Speaker 22>in the first place correctly, and then you and it's

1:01:03.533 --> 1:01:06.733
<v Speaker 22>that the money just went to that one department all day.

1:01:07.253 --> 1:01:10.693
<v Speaker 3>Was the document handwritten, the docket.

1:01:10.693 --> 1:01:12.813
<v Speaker 22>A carbon copied yep?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

1:01:13.453 --> 1:01:15.173
<v Speaker 3>And how many of you in that little box up the.

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<v Speaker 22>Top, A senior receptionist and me the junior wow.

1:01:21.613 --> 1:01:23.213
<v Speaker 3>And times it would be quiet and times it would

1:01:23.213 --> 1:01:24.173
<v Speaker 3>be flat out, I suppose.

1:01:25.333 --> 1:01:27.813
<v Speaker 22>Yes, if you had a sale day it was flat out,

1:01:28.093 --> 1:01:31.173
<v Speaker 22>but when it was quiet because the juniors would all

1:01:31.253 --> 1:01:34.333
<v Speaker 22>be play up a bit and they'd seen spied as

1:01:34.373 --> 1:01:35.493
<v Speaker 22>an awfut wrepped.

1:01:35.293 --> 1:01:38.813
<v Speaker 3>Up in those of course they did. Vicky, are we

1:01:38.893 --> 1:01:41.813
<v Speaker 3>talking Are we talking the nineteen sixties?

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<v Speaker 22>No, yeah, very late sixties. I were there, but they

1:01:48.253 --> 1:01:50.453
<v Speaker 22>had been operating for quite a while. There was another

1:01:50.573 --> 1:01:52.973
<v Speaker 22>store in Teams at the time called Heatherington's and they

1:01:53.053 --> 1:01:54.373
<v Speaker 22>also had the same system.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, fantastic, VICKI thank you so much. I've loved that

1:01:59.093 --> 1:02:02.453
<v Speaker 3>more than you can imagine. I've got to bring those back.

1:02:02.493 --> 1:02:04.373
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for that. By the way. By

1:02:04.373 --> 1:02:06.813
<v Speaker 3>the way, of course, a Ted West from Outrageous Fortune.

1:02:06.813 --> 1:02:08.773
<v Speaker 3>They robbed Smith and Coey's well, they robbed the Juwel

1:02:08.773 --> 1:02:10.813
<v Speaker 3>and next doraor of the Cougar ends remember, and Ted

1:02:10.853 --> 1:02:15.453
<v Speaker 3>West wit inside for three years. John Marcus good evening, Hi,

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<v Speaker 3>Hi John.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I worked for a company called I N. L and

1:02:22.013 --> 1:02:27.253
<v Speaker 5>Lower Heart, and we had one of those vacuum tube

1:02:27.333 --> 1:02:33.133
<v Speaker 5>things to send the corrections and bruce to the proof readers.

1:02:34.533 --> 1:02:38.013
<v Speaker 5>We could an a plastic tube that had suck it

1:02:38.093 --> 1:02:40.013
<v Speaker 5>up and you could hear it rattling away above your head.

1:02:40.413 --> 1:02:44.133
<v Speaker 5>Then you could hear coming back deliver it to the

1:02:44.933 --> 1:02:46.133
<v Speaker 5>who made the Friday flesh.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, So you're you're a printing publisher, were you?

1:02:52.813 --> 1:02:56.773
<v Speaker 5>I did the what it's called cold type yep, okay, yeah,

1:02:56.933 --> 1:03:00.613
<v Speaker 5>And that was in nineteen eighty five and I left

1:03:00.693 --> 1:03:01.373
<v Speaker 5>in eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it quite a complicated system with there a number

1:03:04.893 --> 1:03:05.693
<v Speaker 3>of different routes?

1:03:08.933 --> 1:03:11.893
<v Speaker 5>I think it was only maybe one maybe one more okay,

1:03:11.973 --> 1:03:15.813
<v Speaker 5>the editor, but it was on a different floor and

1:03:16.173 --> 1:03:17.053
<v Speaker 5>where's a fair walk?

1:03:18.453 --> 1:03:20.533
<v Speaker 3>So all this, I guess is replaced by computer, so

1:03:20.533 --> 1:03:23.093
<v Speaker 3>that all you're doing is saving you going back, because

1:03:23.133 --> 1:03:24.933
<v Speaker 3>you'd be making a lot of trips each day, would you.

1:03:26.813 --> 1:03:29.413
<v Speaker 5>We didn't make the ships ourselves, but I'm.

1:03:29.293 --> 1:03:32.333
<v Speaker 3>Talking about if it wasn't, there'd be walking back and forward?

1:03:32.453 --> 1:03:34.813
<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah?

1:03:35.413 --> 1:03:37.093
<v Speaker 3>Was it reliable system that breakdown?

1:03:37.173 --> 1:03:37.373
<v Speaker 23>Much?

1:03:39.573 --> 1:03:41.733
<v Speaker 5>As far as I know, it seemed to be okay.

1:03:42.973 --> 1:03:45.253
<v Speaker 5>But it was just funny to he hear them rattling,

1:03:47.013 --> 1:03:49.613
<v Speaker 5>see him coming along when they hit a joint.

1:03:51.613 --> 1:03:53.173
<v Speaker 3>It's a shame. Well, of course there is that one

1:03:53.213 --> 1:03:55.533
<v Speaker 3>preserved in that cafe and Christ judge, but it seems

1:03:55.533 --> 1:03:57.053
<v Speaker 3>that we should be doing more to preserve them. There

1:03:57.093 --> 1:03:58.813
<v Speaker 3>needs to be a museum for them. Thank you for that.

1:03:59.133 --> 1:04:02.773
<v Speaker 3>Seven from ten Good Evening Gaiale. Hello, it's Marcus, Welcome, Hi, no.

1:04:02.973 --> 1:04:06.813
<v Speaker 10>Curse, how are you jing? I remained of the the

1:04:06.973 --> 1:04:10.373
<v Speaker 10>system that you're talking about. They used to have one

1:04:10.573 --> 1:04:14.733
<v Speaker 10>at a department store Core George and George in Newtown

1:04:14.893 --> 1:04:15.533
<v Speaker 10>and Wellington.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, tell me more about that.

1:04:22.613 --> 1:04:25.493
<v Speaker 10>Well, I was a young child at the time living

1:04:25.573 --> 1:04:29.253
<v Speaker 10>in Newtown and that was the largest department store that

1:04:29.373 --> 1:04:32.493
<v Speaker 10>we had, and it was right in a Newtown's school,

1:04:33.653 --> 1:04:36.493
<v Speaker 10>primary school, and we used to go on there and

1:04:36.613 --> 1:04:39.653
<v Speaker 10>they used to as one lady said, there were no

1:04:39.813 --> 1:04:42.173
<v Speaker 10>such a as credit cards, so you think it had

1:04:42.213 --> 1:04:45.133
<v Speaker 10>to be cash. So whenever you bought, the lady behind

1:04:45.173 --> 1:04:47.893
<v Speaker 10>the counter would put the cash into the sort of

1:04:48.133 --> 1:04:51.293
<v Speaker 10>trolley thing and then it would whizz off above your

1:04:51.373 --> 1:04:55.693
<v Speaker 10>head really fast, which was quite frightening at times, because

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<v Speaker 10>it just whizz that went from from where you would

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<v Speaker 10>purchase your your goods to somewhere which is an office

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<v Speaker 10>which is above your head, and and then they would

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<v Speaker 10>put the change back of it and you'll come back again.

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<v Speaker 10>So it was quite an interesting thing to watch as

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<v Speaker 10>a child growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I'm amazed. They didn't just have cash registers.

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<v Speaker 10>No, nothing like that either, not that I can remember.

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<v Speaker 3>That mustn't have been. I can't quite work out why not,

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<v Speaker 3>but that seems to you what they've done.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, well, I was quite surprised that they had one.

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<v Speaker 10>After listening to you tonight, I thought, I remember that

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<v Speaker 10>a new Town of all places, and it was a

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<v Speaker 10>department store called.

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<v Speaker 5>George and George.

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<v Speaker 3>What sort of stuff would they say? All sorts of.

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<v Speaker 10>Goods, all sorts of things? I say, any any typical department.

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<v Speaker 4>Store, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Look and looking at that, there's a there's a list

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<v Speaker 3>of all the places they had that system. It's quite

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<v Speaker 3>a long list of them. So thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed that call. I appreciate that. And New Town

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<v Speaker 3>get in touch. My name is Marcus. Welcome. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>more about this after the news If you had to

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<v Speaker 3>come through eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, I can

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<v Speaker 3>tell you too that I have got some information through

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<v Speaker 3>here that Frank Gibson Junior has died, extremely well known

1:06:19.133 --> 1:06:23.773
<v Speaker 3>and acclaimed drummer. His wife has contacted the newsroom to

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<v Speaker 3>say that it's with great sadness I let you know

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<v Speaker 3>that my husband, the legendary drummer Frank Gibson Junior, has

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<v Speaker 3>passed away today, so no doubt on audio culture and

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<v Speaker 3>some of those other music websites there will be fairly

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<v Speaker 3>deep dives into his career of probably seventy five years.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd think I think luded his father's knee quite young there.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's news that's through also too. So you might

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<v Speaker 3>want to mention that the next hour we're here until

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<v Speaker 3>midnight tonight, we are talking about the end of Smith

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<v Speaker 3>and coey Zah and the aerial railways that were in

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<v Speaker 3>some of those places. Someone said, Marcus Smister start this convo,

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<v Speaker 3>but crazy to think that drive through banking in America

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<v Speaker 3>is still done at this today with vacuum canisters sent

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<v Speaker 3>to the tellers inside the bank. Marcu's got to bring

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<v Speaker 3>the conversation back to Costco. Costco in the US, some

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<v Speaker 3>of them still use the tube system. I've been at

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<v Speaker 3>one in Los Angeles where they had the tube outlet

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<v Speaker 3>at every register. I believe they would load the cash

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<v Speaker 3>into the register begin of a person shift, and then

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<v Speaker 3>close out the register there, fill up the tube and

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<v Speaker 3>send it back from Tony. We are spending much time

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<v Speaker 3>tonight looking and talking about cash railways. There seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be five different systems ball, cable lifts, wire, anumatic tube.

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<v Speaker 3>There's good websites. It's obviously obsessives that kind of follow

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<v Speaker 3>them all and look for photos. It's quite fascinating. I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't quite yet really understand understood the point of all

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<v Speaker 3>of them, but I presume it was because they couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have tills. Well, they didn't trust their staff. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>quite sure which is which. I don't know. Someone might

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<v Speaker 3>know more about this, Someone might work the benefits of

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<v Speaker 3>a centralized cashste whether it could be more closely supervised

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<v Speaker 3>by management. There was less opportunity for pilfering, and it

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<v Speaker 3>freed up their assistant to attend to the customer, perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>make further or better sales. There we go, just like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Good evening, David Marcus, welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Hi Marcus, good evening.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked for the company that in fact invented, manufactured

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<v Speaker 2>and installed those wire systems and the tube systems. The

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<v Speaker 2>wire system was called rapid wire, and that was in

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<v Speaker 2>the old department stores, as you were talking about, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when that became sort of supersededs. If you like

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<v Speaker 2>the tube system come in and they were manufactured by

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<v Speaker 2>a company called Lampson Paragon, which was an English company

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<v Speaker 2>and had branches in different parts of the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>in New Zealand of Australia, the company was called Lampson

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<v Speaker 2>Paragon and the tube systems were installed by part of

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<v Speaker 2>that company called Mamson Engineering. And there were many many

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<v Speaker 2>tube systems throughout New Zealand, but one of the more

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<v Speaker 2>recent developments of that tube system was at twy point

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<v Speaker 2>and what they used to do there in the smelter,

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<v Speaker 2>they would put samples of the smeltered aluminium into a

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<v Speaker 2>tube and shoot it across the road to the laboratory

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<v Speaker 2>to be tested. And that was the best and most

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<v Speaker 2>efficient way to get it from a very hot environment

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<v Speaker 2>to a laboratory type environment. And they used the choose

1:10:02.853 --> 1:10:05.853
<v Speaker 2>system to do that, and that was probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the more it's going way back many years, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was probably one of the last systems that were installed.

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<v Speaker 3>IDA should reach there because at t y today, so

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<v Speaker 3>did that require a special cannister to put the hot

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<v Speaker 3>sample in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they're DIAD, but the system was the same in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of instiding it into the tube system itself and

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<v Speaker 2>then the system that then superseded dat was one called

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<v Speaker 2>tele lift, and the telelift was a more electronically controlled

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<v Speaker 2>and it used to go up inside building. So the

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<v Speaker 2>mail would all come into the bottom of a high

1:10:48.613 --> 1:10:54.213
<v Speaker 2>rise building and the mail would be sorted in the

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<v Speaker 2>mail room and put into these telelift systems, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you'd hit the button and I'd go on a railway

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<v Speaker 2>system up inside the infrastructure of the building and pop

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<v Speaker 2>out on the fifth floor, the tenth boor the thirtieth

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever and deliver the mail to whatever that company

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<v Speaker 2>was on that floor. So that was the development after

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<v Speaker 2>the Tude system.

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<v Speaker 3>So tell me a bit more about that.

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<v Speaker 6>What was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that wired driven or how was that powered?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that not one hundred percent said that. It

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<v Speaker 2>was only like a little railway line gripped.

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<v Speaker 3>They gripped under the right understand.

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<v Speaker 2>It would go up. It would go up vertically up

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<v Speaker 2>inside the building, if you like. And then they have

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<v Speaker 2>a like a gimbal type system like they have on

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<v Speaker 2>ships yep, so that the Telly lift would remain equal.

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<v Speaker 2>And they used it also in hospitals for delivering blood

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<v Speaker 2>samples and things like that between floors and high roads

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<v Speaker 2>hospital setups.

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<v Speaker 3>So did any places. Did any places have that system

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<v Speaker 3>in New Zealand?

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<v Speaker 2>That?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Is that what you're saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, yes, yes, lots of them. Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a big It was a big operation. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I eventually did at a time as CEO of

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<v Speaker 2>what was then Lambson Paragon English company sold out to

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<v Speaker 2>an American company called More and it was called More

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<v Speaker 2>Business Systems and they changed their name that it was

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<v Speaker 2>and More took over the English company Lambson Paragon. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's a really old old company.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you tell me some of the name of the

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<v Speaker 3>could you tell me some of the name of the

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<v Speaker 3>buildings that had that later system? No, I can't because

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when I remember my mother was at UCLAM Hostel,

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<v Speaker 3>that main big tall building overlooking the domain. There was

1:12:47.733 --> 1:12:50.053
<v Speaker 3>a lance and tube system and that that they used

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<v Speaker 3>to send samples around. So that must have that looked

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<v Speaker 3>like it was a building that was built in the

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<v Speaker 3>sixties or the seventies. That very much ad that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, and the Lambs and the Telly rift was

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<v Speaker 2>more for not for cash or anything like that. It

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<v Speaker 2>was more for mail delivery inside high rise building. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was that's why that was Belding and it would

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<v Speaker 2>come out through the wall through a fire fire doors

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<v Speaker 2>would open and the tellylypt system would pop out of

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<v Speaker 2>the wall, if you like. Quite quite fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>And that would have been a suit by emails, I presume,

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<v Speaker 3>would that be right? So that would have gone right

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<v Speaker 3>into the nineties. I presume.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it would have, Yes, yep, right through to then yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And and David with the wire system you talk about

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<v Speaker 3>that was lampsun as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Was that was that?

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<v Speaker 3>That was that was electric? That wasn't just spring operated

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<v Speaker 3>or was it spring operated?

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<v Speaker 2>Spring operated? They pulled the cord, they'd reach up above them,

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<v Speaker 2>clip the docket in a little pouch, clip it to

1:13:58.813 --> 1:14:01.533
<v Speaker 2>the wire, and then pull the cord and it would

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<v Speaker 2>shoot across at great speed up to the cashier's office,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they'd deal with it there, put the change

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<v Speaker 2>in and then put it back up again, pulled the

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<v Speaker 2>cord and shoot it back to the cashier that it

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<v Speaker 2>came from, to give back to the customer of their change.

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<v Speaker 2>And because that someone had mentioned of on the emails,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry on the text before that that was just

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<v Speaker 2>a security thing really in terms of that way you

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<v Speaker 2>only had one or two people handing the cash in

1:14:29.853 --> 1:14:32.133
<v Speaker 2>what can be quite a big store, or you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>more than two.

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<v Speaker 3>And would that would that have wheels vertically on top

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<v Speaker 3>of the wire? Is that how they ran along the wire?

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<v Speaker 2>No, the wire moved so or not one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>certain about that, actually, Marcus. And just remember that was

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<v Speaker 2>a bit before my time.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of the ticklar. I was more involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the tube system.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a big was it just a big compressed guess

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<v Speaker 3>tank that would fire it all?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, it was you see it today in internal

1:15:12.093 --> 1:15:17.133
<v Speaker 2>vacuum cleaning systems inside houses and buildings, you know when

1:15:17.133 --> 1:15:20.053
<v Speaker 2>you might plug your vacuum cleaner into a little hole

1:15:20.093 --> 1:15:23.933
<v Speaker 2>in the wall. Yes, that that was also installed by

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<v Speaker 2>in later years, installed by Lamps and Paragon which became

1:15:28.053 --> 1:15:33.253
<v Speaker 2>more Paragon, same technology. So you'd have a just like

1:15:33.333 --> 1:15:37.373
<v Speaker 2>a gigantic section. It's like a vacuum cleaner.

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<v Speaker 3>So that wouldn't that would have Yeah, that makes that

1:15:41.293 --> 1:15:43.453
<v Speaker 3>makes sense. Okay, that makes perfect sense of to suck

1:15:43.493 --> 1:15:45.213
<v Speaker 3>it through. And they'd be quite tight in the tube,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't they.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they would. It had a sort of a tube

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<v Speaker 2>with say maybe three hundred million long, and when you

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<v Speaker 2>put it into the tube. It was quite a snug fit. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so that it would, you know, the vacuum would suck

1:16:00.373 --> 1:16:01.573
<v Speaker 2>it through the tube system.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there's still one working, and there's still a Cafeine

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<v Speaker 3>Christ that has a lens and system work that does

1:16:06.413 --> 1:16:08.333
<v Speaker 3>Spencer's food and it's quite successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Yes. And the other one they used to have,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, was the I'm just trying to think of

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<v Speaker 2>the name now, the dumb waiter.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, yep, you know that was also.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't think that that would have been

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<v Speaker 2>invented by by Lambsons, but they certainly installed them.

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<v Speaker 3>When did this? When did they stop using it at

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<v Speaker 3>t Y? Was that during your time?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that they've ever stopped. I can't answer that.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't surprise me if it's still operating.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've got mates that work there. I'll find out, David.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that was yeah, and just see if if

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<v Speaker 2>it's still if it still works, I think from memory,

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<v Speaker 2>I never saw it operate. I don't know whether it

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<v Speaker 2>went under the road or on a tube going across

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<v Speaker 2>the road.

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<v Speaker 3>If you like, I'll report back, David. Look, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That was more than I could hopeful with your as

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<v Speaker 3>a call, I mean a city with a fondable knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>with the GMS. I appreciate that greatly. Thank you. Ten

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen Good evening, Daniel.

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<v Speaker 18>Could I Matt, I'll tell you a friend, good Daniel,

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<v Speaker 18>you know trip down Memory Lane? Because she is I

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<v Speaker 18>used to watch it a wood On and it was

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<v Speaker 18>probably Born. It was Matte before born. I'm five years

1:17:26.493 --> 1:17:29.853
<v Speaker 18>from fifty. But there's some characters in me and where

1:17:29.973 --> 1:17:33.253
<v Speaker 18>she's very tame with people. But what he Harrison, he

1:17:33.413 --> 1:17:38.453
<v Speaker 18>was a Kno, there were a few in the phraser

1:17:38.533 --> 1:17:40.813
<v Speaker 18>crane he and then he went on to make his

1:17:40.933 --> 1:17:44.813
<v Speaker 18>own show. Remember, so he made his own show doctor phrases,

1:17:45.293 --> 1:17:51.653
<v Speaker 18>phrases Grant they were in me is tousey Ellen. She

1:17:51.813 --> 1:17:54.453
<v Speaker 18>was in there for w O. But then did Danton

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<v Speaker 18>headed out a given? I think her name was Hilly Long's.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, because he was Whatdy Harrelson wasn't and originally

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<v Speaker 3>was he. There was another guy there that was the

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<v Speaker 3>seecond in command.

1:18:07.013 --> 1:18:09.013
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, I think you come along later on.

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<v Speaker 2>What was normOn?

1:18:11.773 --> 1:18:12.853
<v Speaker 3>What was Norm's job?

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<v Speaker 5>What was normal?

1:18:16.293 --> 1:18:16.493
<v Speaker 2>Mate?

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<v Speaker 18>Next time? Well he was the post poster.

1:18:19.173 --> 1:18:20.853
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but we never know what Norm did? Would we.

1:18:22.573 --> 1:18:25.173
<v Speaker 18>No, no, never, you seed what his gob was. But

1:18:25.253 --> 1:18:27.893
<v Speaker 18>he always sitting in the bar and sit at the

1:18:28.653 --> 1:18:33.173
<v Speaker 18>mate the posty, and you know, and I remember that

1:18:33.493 --> 1:18:36.493
<v Speaker 18>it was over they had the fire and the bar

1:18:37.013 --> 1:18:39.693
<v Speaker 18>got burnt to christ and a lot well and they

1:18:39.773 --> 1:18:42.733
<v Speaker 18>all come and said, no, we're going to help the rebullet.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we'll talk more about that tonight, Daniel. But thank

1:18:45.773 --> 1:18:50.133
<v Speaker 3>you for that, Susan. It's Marcus. Good evening, Oh, good evening, Marcus.

1:18:51.293 --> 1:18:54.853
<v Speaker 24>I was prompted to call by the lady who grew

1:18:55.013 --> 1:18:58.133
<v Speaker 24>up in Newtown and was talking about Newtown and Wellington,

1:18:58.573 --> 1:19:01.973
<v Speaker 24>and she remembers the George and George store next door

1:19:02.093 --> 1:19:05.653
<v Speaker 24>to the Newtown School. Well I grew up in Colburnie,

1:19:05.733 --> 1:19:11.093
<v Speaker 24>which is just next suburb over after after Newtown, heading

1:19:11.173 --> 1:19:14.453
<v Speaker 24>towards the airport, and we had a George and George

1:19:14.613 --> 1:19:18.773
<v Speaker 24>in the little village of shops in Kilburnie. Oh, and

1:19:18.893 --> 1:19:22.453
<v Speaker 24>I remember exactly what you're talking about. I was fascinated

1:19:22.493 --> 1:19:26.093
<v Speaker 24>as a child watching these people take they'd unscrew a

1:19:26.173 --> 1:19:30.413
<v Speaker 24>little barrel it's like only about the size of your hand,

1:19:30.533 --> 1:19:33.893
<v Speaker 24>it seemed like an adult hand, and they'd unscrew it

1:19:34.013 --> 1:19:37.293
<v Speaker 24>off the wire above them and they'd clip the money

1:19:37.533 --> 1:19:42.173
<v Speaker 24>and the account whatever you'd bought, and clip it back

1:19:42.293 --> 1:19:44.853
<v Speaker 24>up and then pull the cord above them, which was

1:19:44.933 --> 1:19:48.013
<v Speaker 24>attached to the wire, I think, and it zoomed off

1:19:48.093 --> 1:19:51.773
<v Speaker 24>at great speed, and the office was upstairs. You could

1:19:51.813 --> 1:19:54.933
<v Speaker 24>see the office because it was semi open, and so

1:19:55.093 --> 1:19:58.493
<v Speaker 24>there was a whole network of wires all over the store.

1:19:59.093 --> 1:20:01.813
<v Speaker 24>And as a child, I was fascinated that there weren't

1:20:01.813 --> 1:20:03.133
<v Speaker 24>any crashes.

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<v Speaker 5>On the line.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're conveying it, well, then, am I that's

1:20:06.813 --> 1:20:10.573
<v Speaker 3>my sentiments exactly? Chaosity Roof didn't that it was chaos.

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<v Speaker 24>And then I think there was a bell or something

1:20:13.773 --> 1:20:17.333
<v Speaker 24>that went bing like this, and you know, you'd think, oh, yes,

1:20:17.373 --> 1:20:20.293
<v Speaker 24>another one's gone off or something like that, and then

1:20:20.333 --> 1:20:23.773
<v Speaker 24>you'd be waiting down there by the counter, waiting or

1:20:23.813 --> 1:20:25.693
<v Speaker 24>winds that come to come back. And if it was

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<v Speaker 24>a busy time, of course there'd be quite a delay.

1:20:29.093 --> 1:20:31.213
<v Speaker 24>I don't know how many people were working up in

1:20:31.293 --> 1:20:33.453
<v Speaker 24>the office, but it only looked like two or three

1:20:34.013 --> 1:20:39.493
<v Speaker 24>people up there. But this is a memory from when

1:20:39.573 --> 1:20:42.653
<v Speaker 24>I was about four, because I would walk up to

1:20:42.733 --> 1:20:46.293
<v Speaker 24>Kilburnie with my mother and we would go there to

1:20:46.413 --> 1:20:53.173
<v Speaker 24>buy our underwear, our blouses. Mother would buy the sewing, habdasherie,

1:20:53.213 --> 1:20:56.533
<v Speaker 24>cottons and things like that. They'd be women's clothes with

1:20:56.653 --> 1:21:01.653
<v Speaker 24>their men's clothes, boys clothes, hats and gloves and that

1:21:01.973 --> 1:21:04.493
<v Speaker 24>kind of thing. It was not two story, it was

1:21:04.613 --> 1:21:08.533
<v Speaker 24>just one level. Now that store, I don't know what

1:21:08.693 --> 1:21:11.813
<v Speaker 24>it became after. It was George and George I cannot

1:21:11.893 --> 1:21:16.173
<v Speaker 24>quite remember. But now it's a funeral home called part

1:21:16.253 --> 1:21:19.933
<v Speaker 24>of the Harbor City chain, and a very nice funeral

1:21:20.013 --> 1:21:23.653
<v Speaker 24>home now too. But the funny thing I find quite amusing.

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<v Speaker 24>It's right opposite a retirement home called Rita Angus, and

1:21:28.533 --> 1:21:32.693
<v Speaker 24>on beside it, this is in Colbernie, Wellington, there is

1:21:32.773 --> 1:21:36.493
<v Speaker 24>the Westpac Bank, a very big branch of the Westpac Bank.

1:21:36.613 --> 1:21:39.693
<v Speaker 24>So you're sitting, if you're sitting on that side of

1:21:39.853 --> 1:21:43.013
<v Speaker 24>the retirement home, you just look out the window to

1:21:43.133 --> 1:21:45.813
<v Speaker 24>the place that's going to take your money, the bank,

1:21:47.013 --> 1:21:49.453
<v Speaker 24>and then the other place you're going to deposit the

1:21:49.493 --> 1:21:54.653
<v Speaker 24>money into when you go is the funeral home. Of course,

1:21:54.773 --> 1:21:57.973
<v Speaker 24>behind it is a little chimney spire. You can see

1:21:58.093 --> 1:22:01.333
<v Speaker 24>within with somebody's cremated. You can see little puff of

1:22:01.413 --> 1:22:04.453
<v Speaker 24>smoke go up every so often, I think that's right

1:22:05.373 --> 1:22:09.173
<v Speaker 24>in opposite on the corner, because this goes to the

1:22:09.453 --> 1:22:11.573
<v Speaker 24>end of the street, and on the corner of the

1:22:11.693 --> 1:22:16.573
<v Speaker 24>next street there is the chapel. I think if I

1:22:16.653 --> 1:22:18.573
<v Speaker 24>went to that home, I'd rather be on the other

1:22:18.733 --> 1:22:21.893
<v Speaker 24>side looking out at some people's houses in a place

1:22:21.933 --> 1:22:25.293
<v Speaker 24>where I'm going next kind of thing. But I do

1:22:25.533 --> 1:22:29.533
<v Speaker 24>remember the store very very well. It has lovely window displays,

1:22:30.173 --> 1:22:34.093
<v Speaker 24>and I remembered going there to get my college uniform.

1:22:34.773 --> 1:22:38.293
<v Speaker 24>And I went to Wellington News Girls College and mother

1:22:38.573 --> 1:22:42.373
<v Speaker 24>made my uniform because the parents were given a pattern

1:22:42.413 --> 1:22:43.533
<v Speaker 24>if they were a sewer.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's gone, hasn't You couldn't get a patent anymore, could?

1:22:47.533 --> 1:22:48.453
<v Speaker 3>That's amazing to hear.

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<v Speaker 24>Oh well, my mother was a dress maker dress designer,

1:22:51.973 --> 1:22:56.053
<v Speaker 24>so she could draft her own patterns. But the thing

1:22:56.293 --> 1:22:59.853
<v Speaker 24>was that you had to buy your raincoat there. And

1:23:00.053 --> 1:23:04.053
<v Speaker 24>I'm quite short, while my mother was short, didn't make

1:23:04.173 --> 1:23:07.853
<v Speaker 24>five foot and unfortunately never did I for eleven and

1:23:07.933 --> 1:23:11.773
<v Speaker 24>three w inches. And of course when I was I

1:23:11.933 --> 1:23:16.133
<v Speaker 24>was growing quite normally as a child, just slightly below

1:23:16.173 --> 1:23:19.733
<v Speaker 24>average maybe or average some years. And of course mother

1:23:19.893 --> 1:23:23.573
<v Speaker 24>looked at this raincoat wall Garbadine. We had to have

1:23:24.173 --> 1:23:28.053
<v Speaker 24>a great, big, heavy thing. I hated heavy clothes. I

1:23:28.213 --> 1:23:31.413
<v Speaker 24>just couldn't stand heavy clothes or heavy shoes. And the

1:23:31.533 --> 1:23:35.133
<v Speaker 24>regulation school shoes were great, heavy clumping things, and I

1:23:35.333 --> 1:23:39.013
<v Speaker 24>just hated getting into them. And so mother thinks, oh, well,

1:23:39.333 --> 1:23:43.173
<v Speaker 24>children do have a gross spurt in teenage life. So

1:23:43.373 --> 1:23:46.093
<v Speaker 24>she bought me an extra long raincoat.

1:23:47.773 --> 1:23:51.093
<v Speaker 3>It should be hopeing than her spring up.

1:23:51.213 --> 1:23:51.413
<v Speaker 19>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 24>My father was about five foot eleven and tall and broad.

1:23:56.573 --> 1:24:00.013
<v Speaker 24>He was from the Shetland, so good Viking and Scottish stock,

1:24:00.653 --> 1:24:03.533
<v Speaker 24>And of course she assumed I would, you know, grow

1:24:03.693 --> 1:24:07.173
<v Speaker 24>some more. My seat kept growing, kept going up as

1:24:07.213 --> 1:24:10.653
<v Speaker 24>shoe size, and I was ever hopeful as a teenager,

1:24:10.693 --> 1:24:13.053
<v Speaker 24>and I'd say to my mother, well, I'm definitely going

1:24:13.173 --> 1:24:16.133
<v Speaker 24>to grow because my body's getting the base a little

1:24:16.173 --> 1:24:19.133
<v Speaker 24>bit longer to deal with the upright, you know, the

1:24:19.253 --> 1:24:22.933
<v Speaker 24>shooting upright and going a few more inches. But no,

1:24:23.413 --> 1:24:25.973
<v Speaker 24>I never made the great achievement I wanted to make

1:24:26.173 --> 1:24:28.893
<v Speaker 24>was to be over five foot. But the sunny thing

1:24:29.053 --> 1:24:32.653
<v Speaker 24>is everybody thinks I'm about five foot three because I.

1:24:32.733 --> 1:24:34.733
<v Speaker 15>Had all I do.

1:24:35.373 --> 1:24:37.813
<v Speaker 24>Well, I don't think I'm sure you sound. I think

1:24:37.853 --> 1:24:39.493
<v Speaker 24>I'm me just a normal height.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, hang, are we stuck wearing that John Gavitten coat

1:24:43.573 --> 1:24:44.533
<v Speaker 3>your whole time? Yes?

1:24:45.053 --> 1:24:47.493
<v Speaker 24>And it was so heavy, and Mum put in a

1:24:47.693 --> 1:24:50.493
<v Speaker 24>hem probably about ten inches, you know, because she was

1:24:50.533 --> 1:24:53.333
<v Speaker 24>a dressmaker, she could take it up. So of course

1:24:53.653 --> 1:24:57.333
<v Speaker 24>it was a coat with this big hem, and I

1:24:57.693 --> 1:25:01.133
<v Speaker 24>just felt like I was sinking into the ground with

1:25:01.253 --> 1:25:05.013
<v Speaker 24>the clumping shoes and then this heavy raincoat. I just

1:25:05.133 --> 1:25:07.813
<v Speaker 24>hated it when it rained. And because when I was

1:25:07.893 --> 1:25:11.133
<v Speaker 24>a child at primary school, mother made me beautiful little

1:25:11.213 --> 1:25:14.493
<v Speaker 24>plastic raincoats. I had a white one with red and

1:25:14.653 --> 1:25:15.773
<v Speaker 24>gold spots on it.

1:25:15.933 --> 1:25:16.093
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1:25:16.413 --> 1:25:19.133
<v Speaker 24>I was always dressed like a little model because she

1:25:19.213 --> 1:25:22.853
<v Speaker 24>would see fashions overseas and she could draft her own patterns.

1:25:23.253 --> 1:25:26.693
<v Speaker 24>So I went from that to the heavy raincoat and

1:25:26.773 --> 1:25:31.013
<v Speaker 24>the heavy walk And was she restrained?

1:25:31.253 --> 1:25:33.973
<v Speaker 3>Was she restrained with the Wellington Girl's uniform? Did she

1:25:34.053 --> 1:25:36.613
<v Speaker 3>follow the patent or did she put her own flourishes

1:25:36.653 --> 1:25:36.933
<v Speaker 3>into it?

1:25:37.213 --> 1:25:41.133
<v Speaker 24>It was very meticulous and she and she made that fine.

1:25:41.213 --> 1:25:43.613
<v Speaker 24>I didn't have a great big hem on that because

1:25:43.653 --> 1:25:46.413
<v Speaker 24>she knew she could make it the next year if

1:25:46.453 --> 1:25:48.653
<v Speaker 24>I grew But of course I just had the same

1:25:48.813 --> 1:25:52.373
<v Speaker 24>uniform all the way through because I never woman will grew.

1:25:54.133 --> 1:25:55.133
<v Speaker 10>But never mind.

1:25:55.293 --> 1:25:59.653
<v Speaker 24>I've enjoyed life. But I do vaguely remember that when

1:25:59.773 --> 1:26:03.733
<v Speaker 24>we went to get the school uniform there the raincoat,

1:26:04.253 --> 1:26:07.253
<v Speaker 24>I vaguely remember. I don't know if my memory serves

1:26:07.373 --> 1:26:10.573
<v Speaker 24>me correctly, but I thought they had those big silver

1:26:11.253 --> 1:26:16.813
<v Speaker 24>embossed tools. I see that image. I know when I

1:26:16.893 --> 1:26:21.413
<v Speaker 24>went to Diic downtown in Wellington on Lampton Key, I

1:26:21.573 --> 1:26:25.973
<v Speaker 24>remember the big silver embossed tools there. But I think

1:26:26.133 --> 1:26:29.173
<v Speaker 24>the IC when we were children, I think that had

1:26:29.213 --> 1:26:33.853
<v Speaker 24>the wire system as well. So, but great memories of

1:26:33.973 --> 1:26:37.693
<v Speaker 24>walking up to Colbernie on a Friday night with Dad

1:26:37.933 --> 1:26:42.493
<v Speaker 24>or Mum and watching the Salvation Army playing their songs

1:26:42.533 --> 1:26:45.453
<v Speaker 24>and the ladies with their bonnets and the tambourines with

1:26:45.613 --> 1:26:49.893
<v Speaker 24>the colored ribbons on, and Dad would meet his Shetland mates.

1:26:50.973 --> 1:26:54.533
<v Speaker 24>Then we'd be all standing around, and I'd be standing

1:26:54.573 --> 1:26:56.933
<v Speaker 24>there listening to adult conversation. It was all good and

1:26:58.453 --> 1:27:01.973
<v Speaker 24>excuse me clean. And of course all these men had

1:27:02.013 --> 1:27:05.453
<v Speaker 24>a Shetland accent, so I was quite used to listening

1:27:05.573 --> 1:27:09.013
<v Speaker 24>to their bro their Shetland accents, and I could understand

1:27:09.093 --> 1:27:11.853
<v Speaker 24>what they were saying because my dad had the same accent.

1:27:11.973 --> 1:27:15.173
<v Speaker 24>And they were always very jolly men. And a lot

1:27:15.293 --> 1:27:19.493
<v Speaker 24>of the Shetlanders settled in Island Bay where the Italians settled,

1:27:19.613 --> 1:27:24.333
<v Speaker 24>and the Shetlanders and the Italians they fished together. And

1:27:24.613 --> 1:27:28.773
<v Speaker 24>I was told by an Italian lady that the Shetlanders

1:27:28.893 --> 1:27:32.693
<v Speaker 24>taught the Italians the long line of fishing system.

1:27:34.093 --> 1:27:36.733
<v Speaker 3>That was okay, I'm just going to cover with It's

1:27:36.733 --> 1:27:38.933
<v Speaker 3>been absolutely fascinating. What a pleasure has been to talk to.

1:27:39.253 --> 1:27:41.893
<v Speaker 3>I'm right on headlines, but wow, gosh, you've got some

1:27:41.973 --> 1:27:44.333
<v Speaker 3>great things to say. And thank you so very much

1:27:44.413 --> 1:27:48.133
<v Speaker 3>for that good evening, Zeta, welcome, Thank.

1:27:48.053 --> 1:27:51.173
<v Speaker 19>You, Marcus. I'd like to talk about my first memory

1:27:51.333 --> 1:27:55.573
<v Speaker 19>of Smith and Coe great That was in nineteen thirty

1:27:55.653 --> 1:27:59.933
<v Speaker 19>two and I was four and my mother took me

1:28:00.093 --> 1:28:05.653
<v Speaker 19>to buy brown leather gloves for the winter. Quite a procedure.

1:28:05.853 --> 1:28:09.933
<v Speaker 19>I was on a high stool with a backing, my

1:28:10.133 --> 1:28:14.853
<v Speaker 19>elbow was put on a velvet cushion. All the gloves

1:28:15.093 --> 1:28:19.573
<v Speaker 19>was kept in long narrow drawers the wedding gloves. The

1:28:19.693 --> 1:28:22.413
<v Speaker 19>gloves were going to the races and so on, and

1:28:22.613 --> 1:28:28.573
<v Speaker 19>each pair was wrapped in white tissue. So my brown

1:28:28.653 --> 1:28:32.133
<v Speaker 19>mather gloves were brought out and the lady stretched each

1:28:32.373 --> 1:28:37.613
<v Speaker 19>finger was some sort of stretch of thing, and first

1:28:37.613 --> 1:28:41.053
<v Speaker 19>of all the thumb was put on. Then each finger

1:28:41.653 --> 1:28:47.093
<v Speaker 19>was smoothed down lovingly by the sales person. And all

1:28:47.173 --> 1:28:49.853
<v Speaker 19>the time I was watching the money flying over my

1:28:50.013 --> 1:28:54.773
<v Speaker 19>head going up to the glass office where I could

1:28:54.813 --> 1:28:58.453
<v Speaker 19>see the girls on the next floor. But getting back

1:28:58.493 --> 1:29:01.253
<v Speaker 19>to the gloves, each finger, as I said, was smoothed

1:29:01.333 --> 1:29:07.973
<v Speaker 19>on and finally buttoned with a little glass brown button

1:29:08.133 --> 1:29:11.733
<v Speaker 19>at the wrist. And my mother bought the gloves. And

1:29:11.853 --> 1:29:14.493
<v Speaker 19>that is my first memory of Smith and che.

1:29:15.733 --> 1:29:19.173
<v Speaker 3>Wow and it all. Did children have gloves in those days?

1:29:19.173 --> 1:29:19.973
<v Speaker 3>I suppose they did?

1:29:20.573 --> 1:29:25.653
<v Speaker 19>Oh, of course, dressed up to go to town. And

1:29:25.773 --> 1:29:30.453
<v Speaker 19>then I'd like to talk about Gibson. Frank Gibson, the drummer, Yes,

1:29:30.893 --> 1:29:33.013
<v Speaker 19>thank you. I don't know if it was Frank or

1:29:33.213 --> 1:29:37.093
<v Speaker 19>Don Gibson who played at the Peter Pan in Ruhlm

1:29:37.173 --> 1:29:41.693
<v Speaker 19>Street in my heyday when we went almost every Saturday night,

1:29:42.413 --> 1:29:47.213
<v Speaker 19>Nancy Harry on piano, Don or Frank Gibson on drums,

1:29:48.093 --> 1:29:53.573
<v Speaker 19>and Tommy Andle on bass, and sometimes Mavis Rivers sang.

1:29:55.373 --> 1:29:56.933
<v Speaker 19>And those were great days.

1:29:57.773 --> 1:29:59.773
<v Speaker 3>Now, could you just remind me, because it's kind of

1:29:59.893 --> 1:30:07.973
<v Speaker 3>beyond my days. The peter Pan was where Rutland Street. Okay,

1:30:08.133 --> 1:30:12.413
<v Speaker 3>copy that, yep, and then it moves Rutland Street in

1:30:12.493 --> 1:30:12.933
<v Speaker 3>the city.

1:30:13.093 --> 1:30:17.453
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, yeah, and this will be in the sixtieshow it's

1:30:17.613 --> 1:30:19.093
<v Speaker 19>very sad about Smith and Kewey.

1:30:19.533 --> 1:30:21.693
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this is the fifties or the sixties for

1:30:21.773 --> 1:30:29.813
<v Speaker 3>the peter Pan. Oh, late forties, Okay, I understand, yep.

1:30:30.413 --> 1:30:33.333
<v Speaker 19>Yes, I got married in fifty two, so we were

1:30:33.413 --> 1:30:36.893
<v Speaker 19>going to the peter Pan regularly before that.

1:30:39.813 --> 1:30:40.013
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:30:40.013 --> 1:30:41.813
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at the line up there and I think

1:30:41.893 --> 1:30:44.373
<v Speaker 3>that certainly was Frank Gibson that was there at that one.

1:30:44.413 --> 1:30:46.373
<v Speaker 3>But I'll do some more research on that, Zeta. But look,

1:30:46.413 --> 1:30:48.213
<v Speaker 3>that's a tremendous call, and thank you very much for that.

1:30:48.693 --> 1:30:49.533
<v Speaker 3>It's unbelievable.

1:30:49.973 --> 1:30:50.253
<v Speaker 15>Julie.

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<v Speaker 16>Hello, in a very good evening, and what an interesting

1:30:54.293 --> 1:30:54.853
<v Speaker 16>program is.

1:30:55.773 --> 1:30:57.533
<v Speaker 3>It's dangerously interesting tonight.

1:30:58.093 --> 1:31:04.453
<v Speaker 16>Well, extremely the previous previous lady so that she was

1:31:04.653 --> 1:31:09.133
<v Speaker 16>extremely interesting. But I was raised in Martin and we

1:31:09.333 --> 1:31:14.893
<v Speaker 16>had Martin, the farmers co op and Martin and they

1:31:15.053 --> 1:31:18.693
<v Speaker 16>had the wire system and I used to be fascinated

1:31:18.773 --> 1:31:23.533
<v Speaker 16>how they could put the little They were wooden, the

1:31:23.613 --> 1:31:27.573
<v Speaker 16>little containers were wooden. And they would put the money

1:31:27.653 --> 1:31:31.893
<v Speaker 16>in the containers and put the docket underneath and zips.

1:31:33.293 --> 1:31:37.613
<v Speaker 16>She pulled her like a handle and it was spring

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<v Speaker 16>loaded and shot up to the office. But I don't

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<v Speaker 16>know if they had to do it on the way back.

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<v Speaker 16>It just came down naturally, I think. But Martin Farmer's

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<v Speaker 16>co Op they had everything from men's clothes right out

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<v Speaker 16>to the back where you could buy fencing wire and

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<v Speaker 16>wheat for the chicks. And it was a really, really big,

1:31:59.933 --> 1:32:03.693
<v Speaker 16>fascinating strat I used to love going there and get

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<v Speaker 16>my gum boots. When I got my first pere gum

1:32:06.853 --> 1:32:12.013
<v Speaker 16>boots there, Dad took me in there and with all

1:32:12.093 --> 1:32:15.613
<v Speaker 16>these just all you could name it. It was there,

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<v Speaker 16>from hammers to saws to then out the front was

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<v Speaker 16>all the ladies where and and the men's where was

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<v Speaker 16>on the right hand side, I remember, and the ladies

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<v Speaker 16>where it was on the left hand side. And many

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<v Speaker 16>years later my friend Katie Island she worked in the

1:32:33.533 --> 1:32:37.053
<v Speaker 16>women's there. But it was a fascinating store and a

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<v Speaker 16>big store for a little place like Martin.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess Martin was a berg supply town for a

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<v Speaker 3>big cultural area. I guess a.

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<v Speaker 16>Roundabout, Oh absolutely, And the Salvation Army always stood out

1:32:51.733 --> 1:32:56.173
<v Speaker 16>there on a Friday night, and the man would stand

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<v Speaker 16>out there and preach whether it was raining or snowing

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<v Speaker 16>or whatever. And they played their organs, sing their songs.

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<v Speaker 16>And at Christmas time they used to bring a big tree,

1:33:07.853 --> 1:33:12.773
<v Speaker 16>a big fir tree, pine tree, and stick it up

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<v Speaker 16>in the middle of the road that was strapped to

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<v Speaker 16>the post office and to the hotel on the corner

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<v Speaker 16>and story, and we in New Year's New Year's Eve,

1:33:25.093 --> 1:33:28.973
<v Speaker 16>everybody gathered around the tree to see the new year

1:33:29.093 --> 1:33:33.693
<v Speaker 16>and fabulous town. You're still there, yes, yes, you can

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<v Speaker 16>hear me.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still in Martin.

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<v Speaker 16>You're still am I still in Martin? No, I live now.

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<v Speaker 16>I live across the river in the in the Range

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<v Speaker 16>River Valley.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you're not far from there.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, no, I can see the station lights at night.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know much about Martin. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>not a town. It's not a town you actually end

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<v Speaker 3>up and by excident, is it you did?

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<v Speaker 16>It have to be an accident, but you know, if.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going Auckland to Wellington, you do drive that. It

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<v Speaker 3>appears to me. I mean it's on the railway line

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<v Speaker 3>is it, but not on the railway.

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<v Speaker 16>The railway always went through it. You could catch the

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<v Speaker 16>train to go to Wellington or to Auckland, however, and

1:34:22.813 --> 1:34:26.453
<v Speaker 16>I can remember in those days trains were fascinating with

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<v Speaker 16>all the different kinds of carriages. Now they're boring as heck,

1:34:30.293 --> 1:34:32.253
<v Speaker 16>they're just all containers, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh they are. That's I don't know if you could

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<v Speaker 3>you would the train. Would the train stop at Martin anymore? Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>the person I don't.

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<v Speaker 16>Think the passenger train does. But it was a huge,

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<v Speaker 16>huge junction yard for all those years ago. There was

1:34:49.533 --> 1:34:56.053
<v Speaker 16>cattle yards and sheep yards. And I've never heard of

1:34:56.133 --> 1:34:59.253
<v Speaker 16>the train actually stopping there at all, but it just

1:34:59.413 --> 1:35:03.013
<v Speaker 16>goes through. But if there is still some quite heavy

1:35:03.093 --> 1:35:06.293
<v Speaker 16>industry in Martin, but nowhere near.

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<v Speaker 3>Life it used to be what would do you know

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<v Speaker 3>what the popular? Is the population static increasing? Or would

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<v Speaker 3>it be five thousand or two thousand?

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<v Speaker 16>Oh, she would be I just bought a house there,

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<v Speaker 16>but it's probably about three and a half thousand, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 16>but fascinating little place in a very friendly little town.

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<v Speaker 3>Can Set's friend Too far from the sea for me, Judy,

1:35:28.693 --> 1:35:32.253
<v Speaker 3>I reckond but lovely to talk to. Thank you. Also

1:35:32.293 --> 1:35:37.453
<v Speaker 3>talking about Norm from Cheers, Marcus Good Evening, Parmeston North

1:35:37.533 --> 1:35:39.533
<v Speaker 3>Hospital used a system like you were talking about, a

1:35:39.613 --> 1:35:43.973
<v Speaker 3>solinitude system where it put paperwork into descend towards approximately

1:35:44.053 --> 1:35:48.693
<v Speaker 3>twenty fifteen. Oh Dan, do you know what Norm did

1:35:48.733 --> 1:35:52.733
<v Speaker 3>for a living? Someone said Norm previously saved the United

1:35:52.773 --> 1:35:54.853
<v Speaker 3>States Coast Guard, though and earlyerpretad his state he had

1:35:54.893 --> 1:35:56.493
<v Speaker 3>been in the Army. He loses his job in an

1:35:56.533 --> 1:36:02.333
<v Speaker 3>accounting firm by defending Diane from his boss. After strugging

1:36:02.373 --> 1:36:04.813
<v Speaker 3>for a few years an independent accountant, eventually becomes a

1:36:04.853 --> 1:36:09.893
<v Speaker 3>house painter. His wife was Vera, but of course they

1:36:09.933 --> 1:36:13.253
<v Speaker 3>pretty much lived apart because she was never there or

1:36:13.333 --> 1:36:17.333
<v Speaker 3>she had never appeared on episode you heard his voice,

1:36:17.493 --> 1:36:22.013
<v Speaker 3>you heard her voice, Vera's voice once voiced by Norm's

1:36:22.133 --> 1:36:26.173
<v Speaker 3>real wife, but did also film the movie Never Say

1:36:26.293 --> 1:36:31.493
<v Speaker 3>Die in New Zealand. That's also true. But that's a

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<v Speaker 3>situation with Norm from Cheers. I don't know if he

1:36:36.933 --> 1:36:39.413
<v Speaker 3>had as sooner. I'll look at his Wikipedia page now, people,

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<v Speaker 3>Norm Peterson, yes, a fictional character.

1:36:50.373 --> 1:36:50.693
<v Speaker 23>I don't know.

1:36:50.733 --> 1:36:52.253
<v Speaker 3>I for his typecast. I don't know if he did

1:36:52.333 --> 1:36:58.693
<v Speaker 3>much work after that. Quite good Norm's entrance into the

1:36:58.733 --> 1:37:02.373
<v Speaker 3>bar as a running gag on Cheers, typically beginning with

1:37:02.413 --> 1:37:05.173
<v Speaker 3>a greeting by Norm, usually afternoon or evening. Everybody. This

1:37:05.293 --> 1:37:08.293
<v Speaker 3>is followed by the car the bar crowd getting his name,

1:37:08.613 --> 1:37:12.013
<v Speaker 3>except Diane, who would allowed them follow them with a

1:37:12.093 --> 1:37:16.573
<v Speaker 3>more refined Norman. Afterwards, someone usually Sam, Coach or Woody,

1:37:17.453 --> 1:37:19.693
<v Speaker 3>will ask how Norman is doing and what he'd like

1:37:19.733 --> 1:37:22.133
<v Speaker 3>to order. Norman's respond with what he remarked frequently about

1:37:22.133 --> 1:37:26.773
<v Speaker 3>his life In Orders to Bear. Normans also greeted it

1:37:27.013 --> 1:37:29.613
<v Speaker 3>on the customary Norms shout at other locations, looking a

1:37:29.693 --> 1:37:35.893
<v Speaker 3>bowling Alley, the Hungry Heifer, Gary's, Old Town teven. When

1:37:35.973 --> 1:37:38.813
<v Speaker 3>Sam asks why people at Gary's know him by the name,

1:37:39.253 --> 1:37:41.893
<v Speaker 3>Norm replies that he goes there on Christmas when cheese

1:37:41.973 --> 1:37:49.253
<v Speaker 3>is closed. A running gag in the series is following

1:37:49.333 --> 1:37:51.893
<v Speaker 3>commercial for the bartender to ask Norm if he wants

1:37:51.893 --> 1:37:55.413
<v Speaker 3>the other bear. Normal replies one quick one, after which

1:37:55.533 --> 1:37:59.173
<v Speaker 3>he inevitably stays a bit longer. Oh, it's it's a

1:37:59.213 --> 1:38:05.613
<v Speaker 3>good Wikipedia page. That one. There we go. Norm's wife

1:38:06.053 --> 1:38:09.133
<v Speaker 3>is offer mentioned, but her face is never seen. When

1:38:09.213 --> 1:38:11.453
<v Speaker 3>she has finally showed her faces covered in a pie

1:38:11.613 --> 1:38:14.813
<v Speaker 3>thrown by Diane, and the actress is uncredited. The only

1:38:14.893 --> 1:38:17.173
<v Speaker 3>time she has seen viewers can see only her legs,

1:38:17.573 --> 1:38:19.373
<v Speaker 3>and one time her waving from a car when she

1:38:19.453 --> 1:38:25.093
<v Speaker 3>drives past chairs on her fifteenth winning anniversary. Vera is

1:38:25.133 --> 1:38:26.773
<v Speaker 3>the butt of many of Norman's jokes, but on many

1:38:26.813 --> 1:38:29.613
<v Speaker 3>occasions Normous professed secretly an undying love for his wife

1:38:29.893 --> 1:38:34.453
<v Speaker 3>or defended her honor. He also refused to cheat on

1:38:34.653 --> 1:38:36.773
<v Speaker 3>her in the episode Normal's Book Ordered, when a female

1:38:36.813 --> 1:38:39.813
<v Speaker 3>IRIS agent was prepared to overlook his text evasion. If

1:38:39.853 --> 1:38:44.893
<v Speaker 3>he did, there we go. I don't know what he

1:38:44.973 --> 1:38:49.213
<v Speaker 3>did after that, by the way, was on sound elsewhere,

1:38:51.133 --> 1:38:55.493
<v Speaker 3>but didn't do much, I don't think, but did appear

1:38:55.573 --> 1:39:00.493
<v Speaker 3>in the movie Never Say Die. Thing was called, by

1:39:00.533 --> 1:39:03.653
<v Speaker 3>the way the cultural reference. In the Simpsons episode Flaming Mo's,

1:39:03.773 --> 1:39:06.173
<v Speaker 3>Barney Gamble walks into the news success from Popular Mos

1:39:06.813 --> 1:39:09.093
<v Speaker 3>to be greeted with a friendly cry of Barney, which

1:39:09.213 --> 1:39:14.293
<v Speaker 3>chatirizes Norm's entrance. When a bartender similar to Woody asks

1:39:14.373 --> 1:39:17.813
<v Speaker 3>him how he is doing, he boops in response, we

1:39:17.933 --> 1:39:22.293
<v Speaker 3>are talking about Smith and Coey's and also Norm from chairs.

1:39:24.493 --> 1:39:26.893
<v Speaker 3>Smith and Curry's is no longer a thing. Well, I mean,

1:39:26.893 --> 1:39:30.053
<v Speaker 3>they've said today that they that's it, they're closing that down.

1:39:30.173 --> 1:39:31.733
<v Speaker 3>So that's one of the things we are talking about.

1:39:33.013 --> 1:39:35.453
<v Speaker 3>But mainly we're talking about the communication system in the

1:39:35.573 --> 1:39:42.173
<v Speaker 3>department stores with the pneumatic pipes and the aerial railways,

1:39:42.173 --> 1:39:47.693
<v Speaker 3>which is kind of kind of remarkable and I'm not

1:39:47.773 --> 1:39:49.773
<v Speaker 3>quite sure what happened that everyone got rid of them.

1:39:53.213 --> 1:39:56.213
<v Speaker 3>There are ways to actually oversee staff and pilfering. But anyway,

1:39:58.453 --> 1:39:59.933
<v Speaker 3>when the last one is still be running in New

1:39:59.973 --> 1:40:02.893
<v Speaker 3>Zealand was someone probably will know. That's what we are

1:40:02.973 --> 1:40:07.093
<v Speaker 3>talking about tonight. Keep those texts and coming through your

1:40:07.093 --> 1:40:10.013
<v Speaker 3>contributions if there's been some sensational calls tonight, So thanks

1:40:10.053 --> 1:40:16.653
<v Speaker 3>for everyone. There's been discussion about Frank Gibson Junior who

1:40:16.693 --> 1:40:19.613
<v Speaker 3>has died today, and I will read what someone has

1:40:19.653 --> 1:40:23.173
<v Speaker 3>sent through to me from Audio Culture, which is the

1:40:23.293 --> 1:40:28.453
<v Speaker 3>very good music Facebook page and website. It'll just take

1:40:28.493 --> 1:40:31.293
<v Speaker 3>me a short time. No name in New Zealand is

1:40:31.373 --> 1:40:35.293
<v Speaker 3>more synonymous with drumming than Frank Gibson. Frank Senior was

1:40:35.373 --> 1:40:37.693
<v Speaker 3>one of our great band leaders and drumm edicatas, and

1:40:37.733 --> 1:40:40.693
<v Speaker 3>from his earliest years Frank Junior followed in his footsteps.

1:40:41.453 --> 1:40:44.533
<v Speaker 3>Today we lost Frank Gibson Junior, which leaves a huge

1:40:44.573 --> 1:40:47.813
<v Speaker 3>hole in our music community. One of the great images

1:40:47.813 --> 1:40:51.133
<v Speaker 3>of our musical culture is nine year old Frank on

1:40:51.293 --> 1:40:54.853
<v Speaker 3>stage at Auckland Town Hall in nineteen fifty four pounding

1:40:54.853 --> 1:40:57.693
<v Speaker 3>out a rhythm with his dad. It's posted here. He

1:40:57.853 --> 1:41:01.053
<v Speaker 3>was so proud of that. Frank was larger than live.

1:41:01.173 --> 1:41:05.253
<v Speaker 3>Generations of drummers were taught and inspired by both father

1:41:05.453 --> 1:41:10.293
<v Speaker 3>and son. It's hard to overstate the loss to us

1:41:10.733 --> 1:41:14.893
<v Speaker 3>all as Frank Junior was and is both loved and respected.

1:41:14.933 --> 1:41:17.933
<v Speaker 3>Our thoughts are with his family and so many friends.

1:41:18.693 --> 1:41:22.813
<v Speaker 3>Rest well, Frank, you were one of a kind. He's

1:41:22.813 --> 1:41:25.093
<v Speaker 3>a good text. Marcus. I know you have some flexibility

1:41:25.173 --> 1:41:26.773
<v Speaker 3>with topics on a Friday, but I won't be able

1:41:26.773 --> 1:41:28.813
<v Speaker 3>to listen Friday night this week. Do you think MH

1:41:28.933 --> 1:41:31.253
<v Speaker 3>three seventy, John Bono Ramsey, he was only at Keller

1:41:31.453 --> 1:41:36.013
<v Speaker 3>and medline Ken will ever be sold? Love the show mate, Marcus.

1:41:36.053 --> 1:41:38.413
<v Speaker 3>Remember the Wellington years ago and onedon years ago. Cocolian

1:41:38.453 --> 1:41:41.013
<v Speaker 3>stains ds and James Smith had lamps and tube systems.

1:41:42.293 --> 1:41:46.533
<v Speaker 3>Also ce one Cafe christ Church now olivers hamburgers By

1:41:46.613 --> 1:41:48.693
<v Speaker 3>lamps and tube system. That's what we have talked about

1:41:48.733 --> 1:41:53.653
<v Speaker 3>that it's very good too. Kids love it. Marcus. I

1:41:53.733 --> 1:41:56.613
<v Speaker 3>remember a book transport system when the National Library of

1:41:56.653 --> 1:42:00.333
<v Speaker 3>New Zealand opening ninetety seven. Suitcases were on tracks, on

1:42:00.493 --> 1:42:02.413
<v Speaker 3>ceilings and up walls around the building. But I can't

1:42:02.413 --> 1:42:04.333
<v Speaker 3>remember anything about it. Can't for anything about it. Hey,

1:42:04.373 --> 1:42:06.333
<v Speaker 3>list is timoth they remember it? Or am I going? Man?

1:42:06.973 --> 1:42:11.133
<v Speaker 3>This is the National Library of New Zealand. I worked

1:42:11.133 --> 1:42:13.853
<v Speaker 3>at Valentine's in the mid sixties and the sanctioned department

1:42:13.933 --> 1:42:17.453
<v Speaker 3>of the office, the countisate was received by the kasher

1:42:17.493 --> 1:42:19.333
<v Speaker 3>and forwarded to me to approve that the buy had

1:42:19.333 --> 1:42:22.093
<v Speaker 3>an accountant on a file system. The docket was stamped

1:42:22.133 --> 1:42:25.693
<v Speaker 3>to prove returned via the cashier again to the department

1:42:25.893 --> 1:42:31.213
<v Speaker 3>received from initially wouldn't trust Nikola wills not to means

1:42:31.293 --> 1:42:35.333
<v Speaker 3>test the pensioners. The contrition the contribution of finances from

1:42:35.333 --> 1:42:38.253
<v Speaker 3>the boomers will be able to help us all plus

1:42:38.373 --> 1:42:40.573
<v Speaker 3>can pay for the rising costs. Everyone should have to pay.

1:42:42.373 --> 1:42:45.973
<v Speaker 3>Countdown New Brighton still post COVID had a vacuum tube

1:42:46.013 --> 1:42:48.773
<v Speaker 3>that sent the till float end of the day report

1:42:48.853 --> 1:42:50.453
<v Speaker 3>up to the office. Not sure if it's still there

1:42:50.853 --> 1:42:55.933
<v Speaker 3>since the refurbishment. That's from Zane Marcus, HJJ Smith and

1:42:56.053 --> 1:42:58.613
<v Speaker 3>Verkargill had the system in every department Magic to watch

1:42:59.013 --> 1:43:04.453
<v Speaker 3>what year would have it ended? Maggie, Maggie Marcus, thank

1:43:04.493 --> 1:43:06.213
<v Speaker 3>you for your show every night. My mother had an accountant,

1:43:06.373 --> 1:43:08.653
<v Speaker 3>George and George and Winnington and shop there regularly for

1:43:08.773 --> 1:43:11.733
<v Speaker 3>numerous things. We kids loved watching the cannisters shoot along

1:43:11.773 --> 1:43:16.933
<v Speaker 3>the wire. It's all very good now called the suction system.

1:43:18.253 --> 1:43:21.213
<v Speaker 3>Marcus went to farmers in Bayfair Mountain Monganui today, the

1:43:21.333 --> 1:43:24.253
<v Speaker 3>closest to the old department stores. Feber Service walked out

1:43:24.293 --> 1:43:27.893
<v Speaker 3>with lipstick and lipliner one forty dollars. Shouted to the

1:43:27.933 --> 1:43:30.053
<v Speaker 3>woman that Serby wasn't intending to spend that much, but

1:43:30.173 --> 1:43:34.733
<v Speaker 3>his service inspired me. Susie Marcus, Google aircom dot com.

1:43:34.813 --> 1:43:37.413
<v Speaker 3>Are you they still specialize in EU medic tube delivery.

1:43:37.933 --> 1:43:39.933
<v Speaker 3>I worked for PC common Beck in the seventies. We

1:43:40.013 --> 1:43:42.493
<v Speaker 3>had the canisters and chew powered by air. We sent

1:43:42.653 --> 1:43:44.533
<v Speaker 3>job cards for the money of the office and the

1:43:44.613 --> 1:43:46.453
<v Speaker 3>days returned the change with the seats wong and we

1:43:46.493 --> 1:43:51.093
<v Speaker 3>had London Town d C Mcgruers and Mackenzie's Harry.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, Hello there, Marcus. How are you doing good?

1:43:55.133 --> 1:43:57.373
<v Speaker 3>Thanks Harry, Oh it's good.

1:43:57.533 --> 1:44:00.413
<v Speaker 5>This in college and in Cunningham's Farmers the North was

1:44:00.493 --> 1:44:05.533
<v Speaker 5>mentioned before. Yes, sisters always joined the radio show. I

1:44:05.733 --> 1:44:09.453
<v Speaker 5>went to work for Farmers who took over the Collinson

1:44:09.493 --> 1:44:13.973
<v Speaker 5>in Cunningham's building and we renovate. They renovated the building

1:44:14.573 --> 1:44:19.573
<v Speaker 5>and inside all the under all the tiles, the roof tiles,

1:44:19.653 --> 1:44:22.613
<v Speaker 5>ceiling tiles and so on. There was a full vacuum

1:44:22.733 --> 1:44:27.413
<v Speaker 5>tube system up to the office that they had in

1:44:27.533 --> 1:44:33.013
<v Speaker 5>the sixties. There was also there was also traces of

1:44:33.453 --> 1:44:36.533
<v Speaker 5>much earlier which looked like it might have been a

1:44:36.613 --> 1:44:39.573
<v Speaker 5>cable system that went through the building as well to

1:44:39.693 --> 1:44:44.093
<v Speaker 5>the cash office. But definitely it had a vacuum system.

1:44:45.293 --> 1:44:48.973
<v Speaker 3>They just shut it off with the fall ceiling. Today.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they shut it all off with the It was

1:44:52.293 --> 1:44:55.973
<v Speaker 5>all covered over with the ceiling. And then Farmers in

1:44:56.173 --> 1:45:01.573
<v Speaker 5>nineteen eighty seven eighty eight renovated the building and they

1:45:01.653 --> 1:45:07.213
<v Speaker 5>tore opened and of course they couldn't do anything. Immediately,

1:45:07.293 --> 1:45:09.853
<v Speaker 5>the guy stuck his head up under the tois. He

1:45:09.973 --> 1:45:12.693
<v Speaker 5>came back down. He said, we won't be working this today.

1:45:13.373 --> 1:45:17.773
<v Speaker 5>It was all asbestos. It was sprayed on there and

1:45:17.933 --> 1:45:20.613
<v Speaker 5>so they had to shut there. We had to work

1:45:20.693 --> 1:45:23.413
<v Speaker 5>in the conditions where they were dealing with the isbest

1:45:23.533 --> 1:45:26.253
<v Speaker 5>or in one half of the store. Well we worked

1:45:26.333 --> 1:45:29.053
<v Speaker 5>and sold stuff on the other half. I was fairly

1:45:29.133 --> 1:45:33.973
<v Speaker 5>new to the company at the time. But the history

1:45:34.093 --> 1:45:37.133
<v Speaker 5>that send that was in the Collinson and Cunningham building

1:45:37.733 --> 1:45:41.573
<v Speaker 5>was unbelievable history. And it had tracks all the way

1:45:41.653 --> 1:45:46.053
<v Speaker 5>back to the early nineteen hundreds. And the fantastic Christmas

1:45:47.293 --> 1:45:51.173
<v Speaker 5>cave that they had down underneath the building was Oh,

1:45:51.293 --> 1:45:55.493
<v Speaker 5>it was just absolute magic. I watched people for eighteen

1:45:55.653 --> 1:46:00.093
<v Speaker 5>years and go down there, old people come out in

1:46:00.253 --> 1:46:06.093
<v Speaker 5>tears after taking their grandchildren and great grandchildren down. Absolutely amazing.

1:46:06.533 --> 1:46:09.733
<v Speaker 5>That can all be found at the Tea to Manawan

1:46:09.933 --> 1:46:12.813
<v Speaker 5>Museum now, but it's all walked away. They bring it

1:46:12.893 --> 1:46:15.253
<v Speaker 5>out in October or November for Christmas.

1:46:15.853 --> 1:46:16.853
<v Speaker 4>But it was a.

1:46:17.013 --> 1:46:20.853
<v Speaker 3>Fabulous They've got the grotto, have they.

1:46:21.813 --> 1:46:24.493
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they've got part of They've got large parts of

1:46:24.573 --> 1:46:28.173
<v Speaker 5>the grotto that they that they're rescued quite a bit

1:46:28.253 --> 1:46:32.853
<v Speaker 5>of and they they set things up for Christmas at

1:46:33.053 --> 1:46:36.493
<v Speaker 5>to Manua, And from what I understand, I haven't seen it.

1:46:36.973 --> 1:46:40.293
<v Speaker 5>I've only seen I got to look in the door

1:46:40.373 --> 1:46:42.573
<v Speaker 5>where they had an old stored about four years ago.

1:46:43.053 --> 1:46:46.093
<v Speaker 5>But I haven't actually seen it because I live up

1:46:46.133 --> 1:46:48.773
<v Speaker 5>in New Plymouth now. But I'm definitely going down there

1:46:48.853 --> 1:46:51.853
<v Speaker 5>this Christmas, and I'm definitely going to go and set

1:46:52.373 --> 1:46:53.493
<v Speaker 5>on the wee roundabout?

1:46:53.613 --> 1:46:56.893
<v Speaker 3>Think definitely what's the roundabout?

1:46:57.973 --> 1:46:59.093
<v Speaker 6>The little there's a.

1:46:59.133 --> 1:47:01.893
<v Speaker 5>Little round about, a pedal round about that they have

1:47:02.773 --> 1:47:05.653
<v Speaker 5>and oh it's a it's a very very old one,

1:47:05.893 --> 1:47:06.693
<v Speaker 5>very mcare.

1:47:06.933 --> 1:47:09.133
<v Speaker 3>Is that from the is that from the department store?

1:47:10.213 --> 1:47:14.773
<v Speaker 5>That's from the department store cave Christmas cave they had.

1:47:15.373 --> 1:47:18.053
<v Speaker 5>They had a train set down there. They had area

1:47:18.373 --> 1:47:19.653
<v Speaker 5>planes flying across.

1:47:19.853 --> 1:47:22.533
<v Speaker 3>That's a good thing. They've kept that. That's great they've kep. Yeah,

1:47:22.853 --> 1:47:25.933
<v Speaker 3>tell me what happened? Did the tube system go to

1:47:25.973 --> 1:47:26.373
<v Speaker 3>the dump?

1:47:28.013 --> 1:47:30.773
<v Speaker 5>I think it did, Yeah, I think it did. I

1:47:30.853 --> 1:47:31.933
<v Speaker 5>think it just stripped it out.

1:47:32.933 --> 1:47:36.013
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty hard. It's useless for anyone, really, is it?

1:47:36.053 --> 1:47:36.933
<v Speaker 3>Anis you're kind of a.

1:47:38.493 --> 1:47:40.773
<v Speaker 5>Unless you know what, unless you know how to operate it?

1:47:40.893 --> 1:47:43.173
<v Speaker 3>Yet, well, I kind of me, any, I kind of

1:47:43.653 --> 1:47:47.413
<v Speaker 3>meagine any post any uses fraud Apart the restaurant that

1:47:47.533 --> 1:47:53.813
<v Speaker 3>serves burgers and kids bills and it works quite well. Actually, yeah, christ.

1:47:55.253 --> 1:47:57.613
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'll tell you now that one of the other

1:47:57.773 --> 1:48:01.253
<v Speaker 5>things that I know is all the electronic stuff we

1:48:01.373 --> 1:48:04.373
<v Speaker 5>do know f pos and credit card and everything. It's

1:48:04.453 --> 1:48:08.253
<v Speaker 5>the electronic version of it. Exactly no cash handling at all.

1:48:10.013 --> 1:48:13.293
<v Speaker 5>It's just exactly the same thing, except for its electronic

1:48:13.413 --> 1:48:17.653
<v Speaker 5>from your account to their account. It's just the same

1:48:17.773 --> 1:48:18.973
<v Speaker 5>thing done electronically.

1:48:19.213 --> 1:48:21.533
<v Speaker 3>It's the only place where those tubes seem to have

1:48:23.253 --> 1:48:27.133
<v Speaker 3>contemporary use, I think is in hospitals when you've got

1:48:27.213 --> 1:48:31.773
<v Speaker 3>to see prescriptions and blood tests and samples to the

1:48:31.893 --> 1:48:34.133
<v Speaker 3>labs and stuff. And I think it works quite well there.

1:48:35.333 --> 1:48:37.973
<v Speaker 5>That would work quite well. Yeah, but they stood there.

1:48:38.093 --> 1:48:40.373
<v Speaker 5>I think you'll find that they've got order these running

1:48:40.413 --> 1:48:43.893
<v Speaker 5>backwards and forwards much leason of fit. But some of those,

1:48:44.053 --> 1:48:44.773
<v Speaker 5>many of them.

1:48:46.133 --> 1:48:48.893
<v Speaker 3>Harry, some of those hospitals do have the cash that

1:48:49.173 --> 1:48:51.373
<v Speaker 3>tube system. So but look, nice to talk to you.

1:48:51.493 --> 1:48:53.453
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, good evening, Dion. It to Marcus.

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<v Speaker 14>Welcome, Oh, thank you Marcus. And look, I've got to

1:48:57.173 --> 1:48:58.973
<v Speaker 14>apologize I have not been able to listen for the

1:48:59.053 --> 1:49:02.053
<v Speaker 14>last three hour because I've had phone calls to listen

1:49:02.133 --> 1:49:07.733
<v Speaker 14>to basically even busy. Yeah, you've got to care for

1:49:07.813 --> 1:49:09.013
<v Speaker 14>people sometimes.

1:49:09.173 --> 1:49:09.933
<v Speaker 2>But I did.

1:49:11.733 --> 1:49:16.053
<v Speaker 14>Towards the end of my time with you. Here Mash

1:49:16.173 --> 1:49:19.773
<v Speaker 14>being mentioned as as a TV show from the US,

1:49:19.853 --> 1:49:24.093
<v Speaker 14>and I rate that is number one. Ever, is a

1:49:24.173 --> 1:49:29.493
<v Speaker 14>comedy I wanted to mention as a comedy, Yes, also

1:49:29.653 --> 1:49:32.293
<v Speaker 14>I mean across the board, but I think the comedy

1:49:32.333 --> 1:49:37.853
<v Speaker 14>the comedic writing I think was was wonderful, but also

1:49:37.973 --> 1:49:43.133
<v Speaker 14>touched other areas of of of writing that were pretty clever.

1:49:45.133 --> 1:49:48.613
<v Speaker 14>But I thought of four others that kind of go

1:49:48.733 --> 1:49:55.453
<v Speaker 14>across the board. One of them is Mork and Mindy yep,

1:49:57.693 --> 1:50:02.413
<v Speaker 14>Happy Days yep, until the jumping of the Shark. Of course,

1:50:03.213 --> 1:50:05.133
<v Speaker 14>The Simpsons. I'm not sure if that's been mentioned or not.

1:50:05.493 --> 1:50:07.573
<v Speaker 14>Like I said, I haven't heard, but Simpsons I think

1:50:08.093 --> 1:50:10.773
<v Speaker 14>changed the way that a lot of things have been

1:50:11.213 --> 1:50:16.893
<v Speaker 14>looked at and also have seen what's going to come

1:50:16.933 --> 1:50:20.493
<v Speaker 14>in the future. And one of my favorite most recent ones,

1:50:21.253 --> 1:50:24.293
<v Speaker 14>which is kind of getting a bit aged, is Brooklyn

1:50:24.453 --> 1:50:24.973
<v Speaker 14>nine nine.

1:50:26.973 --> 1:50:28.973
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's not one of them. That's not one I

1:50:29.133 --> 1:50:32.213
<v Speaker 3>have seen. I would dispute Morganman there. I've always found

1:50:32.293 --> 1:50:35.453
<v Speaker 3>Robin Williams in that role quite annoying, but that's just

1:50:35.533 --> 1:50:39.733
<v Speaker 3>my opinion. Okay, but what's Brooklyn nine nine very funny?

1:50:39.813 --> 1:50:44.813
<v Speaker 14>Yes, it's it's very funny, but it's also very clever.

1:50:45.253 --> 1:50:47.693
<v Speaker 14>It's not just funny. The thing I like about humor

1:50:47.773 --> 1:50:53.413
<v Speaker 14>is if it's if it's clever, it adds to it.

1:50:53.613 --> 1:50:58.133
<v Speaker 14>So the Simpsons are clever. Brooklyn nine line is very clever.

1:51:00.253 --> 1:51:02.853
<v Speaker 3>Until what the synopsis of Brooklyn nine nine.

1:51:05.533 --> 1:51:13.173
<v Speaker 14>It is about a New York PD Police Department team

1:51:13.573 --> 1:51:17.853
<v Speaker 14>of mainly detectives, but other people as well, peripheral people,

1:51:18.413 --> 1:51:21.213
<v Speaker 14>not many of them. It's also, like you spoke about

1:51:21.293 --> 1:51:24.733
<v Speaker 14>chairs being centered in one place, it's kind of centered

1:51:24.773 --> 1:51:25.373
<v Speaker 14>in one place.

1:51:27.173 --> 1:51:27.893
<v Speaker 11>It has.

1:51:29.253 --> 1:51:30.253
<v Speaker 5>A kind of.

1:51:30.293 --> 1:51:32.653
<v Speaker 6>Diverse cast, and.

1:51:34.133 --> 1:51:40.013
<v Speaker 14>It just looks at the way that people treat people.

1:51:40.133 --> 1:51:44.973
<v Speaker 14>I guess sometimes a bit differently. But the comedic values

1:51:45.173 --> 1:51:50.693
<v Speaker 14>are in the in the text and also the storylines

1:51:50.973 --> 1:51:54.013
<v Speaker 14>which continue through and it runs through I think eight

1:51:54.133 --> 1:51:57.933
<v Speaker 14>or nine series. I think eight series, and it's just

1:51:58.013 --> 1:51:58.613
<v Speaker 14>it's very clever.

1:51:59.173 --> 1:52:01.053
<v Speaker 3>Was it was it screened Free to Wear in New

1:52:01.093 --> 1:52:03.733
<v Speaker 3>Zealand or was it screened No.

1:52:03.853 --> 1:52:08.533
<v Speaker 14>It's on it's on TV one. In said, well, what

1:52:08.613 --> 1:52:11.253
<v Speaker 14>if it's called one plus? I think pretty.

1:52:13.453 --> 1:52:15.533
<v Speaker 3>It's not what I've had a lot of people talk about,

1:52:15.653 --> 1:52:17.573
<v Speaker 3>but doesn't mean I'm not going to give it a go.

1:52:20.733 --> 1:52:25.773
<v Speaker 14>I would recommend giving it a crack for maybe a

1:52:25.893 --> 1:52:28.653
<v Speaker 14>couple of shows, and if you don't like it, walk away.

1:52:29.093 --> 1:52:30.213
<v Speaker 3>Is it binge watching.

1:52:32.013 --> 1:52:32.293
<v Speaker 1>It is?

1:52:33.173 --> 1:52:35.693
<v Speaker 14>I can sit there And I actually watched the entire

1:52:36.413 --> 1:52:41.813
<v Speaker 14>series over a period of I think three days A

1:52:41.933 --> 1:52:44.453
<v Speaker 14>few months ago. I did the same thing with Matsh

1:52:44.533 --> 1:52:44.853
<v Speaker 14>as well.

1:52:45.333 --> 1:52:49.133
<v Speaker 3>So Mesh, had you seen Mesh before I saw.

1:52:49.053 --> 1:52:52.093
<v Speaker 14>Mash when I was I don't know what I would

1:52:52.093 --> 1:52:54.213
<v Speaker 14>have been at about eight or nine or ten or something.

1:52:54.813 --> 1:52:59.613
<v Speaker 14>And then I watched it again periodically I think in

1:52:59.653 --> 1:53:03.333
<v Speaker 14>the UK when i'd been in my twenties, and then

1:53:03.373 --> 1:53:06.893
<v Speaker 14>I binge watched the whole thing in one go with

1:53:07.053 --> 1:53:10.133
<v Speaker 14>somebody and we watched the whole thing in about five

1:53:10.253 --> 1:53:11.053
<v Speaker 14>days or something like that.

1:53:11.333 --> 1:53:14.893
<v Speaker 3>Well, it still steps up, absolutely.

1:53:15.013 --> 1:53:21.693
<v Speaker 14>It is the best show ever written ever. It's top, top,

1:53:21.853 --> 1:53:25.253
<v Speaker 14>top notch. And as you said when I heard you

1:53:25.333 --> 1:53:28.533
<v Speaker 14>saying about there, there's no last in that final show.

1:53:28.573 --> 1:53:32.613
<v Speaker 14>There are a couple of lasts, but the truth of

1:53:33.253 --> 1:53:38.333
<v Speaker 14>what they're actually pointing out it's pretty amazing, really.

1:53:38.133 --> 1:53:39.613
<v Speaker 3>Nice to hear from you, Dean. Thank you so much

1:53:39.653 --> 1:53:46.453
<v Speaker 3>for that one whole night. Haven't mentioned Butter. No calls

1:53:46.493 --> 1:53:53.133
<v Speaker 3>about Butter, but gosh, what great publicity for Costco. How

1:53:53.213 --> 1:53:56.813
<v Speaker 3>good's that? I think the crossover from Happy Days to

1:53:56.893 --> 1:54:00.093
<v Speaker 3>Walk and Minnie's a side of the brilliant he bought. Yeah,

1:54:00.693 --> 1:54:02.653
<v Speaker 3>it didn't last long though Mork and Mindy did it.

1:54:04.933 --> 1:54:07.453
<v Speaker 3>I thought they sort too much. It was too much

1:54:07.533 --> 1:54:14.733
<v Speaker 3>showcasing him. I'll tell you what's an underrated American sitcom? Alf,

1:54:16.733 --> 1:54:20.853
<v Speaker 3>If you want that kind of extraterrestrial thing, that was

1:54:20.893 --> 1:54:24.773
<v Speaker 3>a much funny. He was good. Alf. He only went

1:54:24.813 --> 1:54:30.053
<v Speaker 3>for four seasons. That should tell you something. That's my

1:54:30.213 --> 1:54:38.773
<v Speaker 3>take on it. Steady decline, people stopped watching it never

1:54:38.893 --> 1:54:42.493
<v Speaker 3>rated if that was never successful, and they always try

1:54:42.533 --> 1:54:44.253
<v Speaker 3>to change it to make it better. I'm talking about

1:54:44.533 --> 1:54:49.253
<v Speaker 3>Mark and Mindy. In the second season, the show's main

1:54:49.333 --> 1:54:51.773
<v Speaker 3>focus was no longer on Mark's slapstick attempts with justin

1:54:51.813 --> 1:54:54.013
<v Speaker 3>Knew World he was in, but on the relationship between

1:54:54.053 --> 1:54:56.933
<v Speaker 3>Mark and Mindy on a romantic level. Some of the

1:54:56.973 --> 1:54:58.933
<v Speaker 3>focus was on work, trying to find a steady job.

1:54:59.013 --> 1:55:01.053
<v Speaker 3>Because the erupt changes to the show in times not

1:55:01.453 --> 1:55:05.773
<v Speaker 3>ratings slipped dramatically, dropping to twenty seventh the show has

1:55:05.813 --> 1:55:08.013
<v Speaker 3>quickly moved back to with the previous time starting. Efforts

1:55:08.013 --> 1:55:10.173
<v Speaker 3>were made to return it to the court of the series. However,

1:55:10.293 --> 1:55:13.493
<v Speaker 3>rating did not recover. There you going to be listened

1:55:13.573 --> 1:55:17.733
<v Speaker 3>from that because there was also a Lavoon and Shody,

1:55:17.773 --> 1:55:21.493
<v Speaker 3>which was also a spinoff. I think of Happy Days,

1:55:22.853 --> 1:55:23.613
<v Speaker 3>Good evening, Doug.

1:55:23.653 --> 1:55:29.973
<v Speaker 23>This is Marcus Welcome, Okay, matey's work years ago when

1:55:29.973 --> 1:55:32.253
<v Speaker 23>I was a young fellow and John edmund on Tay

1:55:32.293 --> 1:55:38.773
<v Speaker 23>Street and we had the old vacuum vacuum system and.

1:55:40.413 --> 1:55:42.213
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it used to work at a real treat. Actually,

1:55:42.293 --> 1:55:45.333
<v Speaker 4>it was quite novelty to start up doing that with

1:55:45.453 --> 1:55:46.933
<v Speaker 4>your first cover shop assistant.

1:55:47.453 --> 1:55:50.253
<v Speaker 3>What was what was so Tay Street? We're talking in

1:55:50.413 --> 1:55:51.173
<v Speaker 3>the cargol are we.

1:55:52.213 --> 1:55:57.853
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, John Edmondson on Tay Street just a long oppositeation

1:55:58.133 --> 1:56:00.613
<v Speaker 4>days there. Yeah, it was a big hardware shop. Used

1:56:00.613 --> 1:56:06.613
<v Speaker 4>to sell everything there and and we used to send

1:56:06.653 --> 1:56:08.413
<v Speaker 4>them up to the used to put them in the

1:56:08.733 --> 1:56:12.333
<v Speaker 4>in the put your money in the in the docket

1:56:12.413 --> 1:56:14.573
<v Speaker 4>and the canister and close it up and then send

1:56:14.653 --> 1:56:16.893
<v Speaker 4>it down the street. And then you would go up

1:56:16.933 --> 1:56:18.853
<v Speaker 4>to the top, up to the ladies up the top

1:56:18.893 --> 1:56:22.253
<v Speaker 4>and they'd sort out all the change and send it

1:56:22.333 --> 1:56:22.973
<v Speaker 4>back down to you.

1:56:23.413 --> 1:56:28.453
<v Speaker 3>What shop is that now, Doug, I'm not sure.

1:56:28.493 --> 1:56:30.493
<v Speaker 4>There was the sports shop next door to there for

1:56:30.613 --> 1:56:37.853
<v Speaker 4>a while. There's the ant Birds next door, and yeah,

1:56:37.893 --> 1:56:41.133
<v Speaker 4>it was white opposite the arcade. I'm not sure what

1:56:41.253 --> 1:56:44.213
<v Speaker 4>that arcade is now, going right through from Tay Street

1:56:44.253 --> 1:56:51.493
<v Speaker 4>through to s Street. It was right opposite that, okay, yeah, yeah,

1:56:51.573 --> 1:56:54.493
<v Speaker 4>so and one of them not one, well last young

1:56:54.573 --> 1:56:57.493
<v Speaker 4>fellows have a bit of fun and used to be

1:56:57.493 --> 1:57:00.693
<v Speaker 4>able to grab a little lever on the box and

1:57:01.853 --> 1:57:03.973
<v Speaker 4>if one of the girls was a bit slow up there,

1:57:04.013 --> 1:57:06.733
<v Speaker 4>you'd give this thing a bloody rattle. And they made

1:57:06.733 --> 1:57:08.613
<v Speaker 4>a hell of a dorn up there in their office

1:57:09.453 --> 1:57:11.413
<v Speaker 4>and let you just stir them up at it and

1:57:11.493 --> 1:57:14.533
<v Speaker 4>then mix these girls be coming down and giving you

1:57:14.613 --> 1:57:18.613
<v Speaker 4>a rack up and there's just a lot of tunb. Yeah,

1:57:20.533 --> 1:57:23.093
<v Speaker 4>that's what's what. And it was great system. It was

1:57:23.093 --> 1:57:24.613
<v Speaker 4>about eight machines.

1:57:25.733 --> 1:57:28.253
<v Speaker 3>It was where it was where H and J Sports

1:57:28.493 --> 1:57:30.533
<v Speaker 3>was for a while, wasn't It was a big shot there.

1:57:30.613 --> 1:57:33.053
<v Speaker 3>I remember exactly where it was. Okay, had that high setting.

1:57:33.053 --> 1:57:35.333
<v Speaker 3>It looked like there'd be something up there. Never realized

1:57:35.333 --> 1:57:35.893
<v Speaker 3>that was there.

1:57:36.053 --> 1:57:40.853
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, yeah, you just listening to your show and

1:57:40.933 --> 1:57:43.853
<v Speaker 4>I was like, when I'm here listening to your shows

1:57:44.533 --> 1:57:48.973
<v Speaker 4>and yeah, I remember meeting New years ago. You interviewed

1:57:49.133 --> 1:57:51.053
<v Speaker 4>Barry Crump from my hotel and Headlock.

1:57:51.733 --> 1:57:54.533
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's right. What was it a hotel called.

1:57:55.773 --> 1:57:56.013
<v Speaker 2>It was?

1:57:56.493 --> 1:57:59.133
<v Speaker 4>Well, it was the Florer soon at that time.

1:58:00.053 --> 1:58:01.773
<v Speaker 3>Over the over the water or something, was it?

1:58:02.773 --> 1:58:05.053
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just right in the middle of right in the

1:58:05.093 --> 1:58:05.853
<v Speaker 4>middle of Headlock.

1:58:06.613 --> 1:58:09.213
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so were you south were so where you were

1:58:09.333 --> 1:58:11.773
<v Speaker 3>south Ender there that had become a publican and Havelock.

1:58:11.493 --> 1:58:11.893
<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

1:58:12.453 --> 1:58:18.573
<v Speaker 4>That's that was the story. Yes, yep, yeah, around of that.

1:58:19.773 --> 1:58:22.853
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, because crub wasn't living in Heavlock,

1:58:22.933 --> 1:58:25.013
<v Speaker 3>was he? I think we drive over from Nelson Will didn't.

1:58:27.853 --> 1:58:33.213
<v Speaker 4>He lived in Rock for oh probably probably six years

1:58:33.253 --> 1:58:33.533
<v Speaker 4>and more.

1:58:34.613 --> 1:58:36.853
<v Speaker 3>And I subsequently met her that that wife he was

1:58:36.893 --> 1:58:39.413
<v Speaker 3>with several times after that too, that she was he

1:58:39.573 --> 1:58:40.613
<v Speaker 3>was with at that time too.

1:58:40.773 --> 1:58:43.293
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, they shifted up. They shifted up to the

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<v Speaker 4>Hawk's Bay somewhere from Headlock.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So why did you end up there in Havelock?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, basically had a farm and Luis farm in Southland

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<v Speaker 4>and they have a Fairfax there and and yeah, just

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<v Speaker 4>sold that up and and be a publican and a

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<v Speaker 4>little poor poor the beer in my life before that,

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<v Speaker 4>So it was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell did you last?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably we built up. We hit motels here as well,

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<v Speaker 4>so yeah, about nine years in total.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good stunt. I don't have a pub for

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<v Speaker 3>that long. Yeah, it's always every time upstayed there, it

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<v Speaker 3>always seems to be quite a lovey little town. I

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<v Speaker 3>quite like it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, it's it's going a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the Marina's quite big there now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And getting back to your shows, you know, I've never

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<v Speaker 4>routeen on American comedy. Always like the British comedy. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know why, but the one American show I really

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<v Speaker 4>enjoyed was Texting. Yeah that was a real dry right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It had a great script, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>I really enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so fantastic, fantastic characters here. You're quite right.

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