1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends in eye Insurance Peace of Mind 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 2: Murray Old's Australia correspondent with US now he mus very 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: good afternoon herea. So when is Julian Nosaje due to 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: land in Australia, well beyond by the end. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Of the week, is the thinking here? Left London last night, 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: going we understand, via Singapore to fly then out to Saipan. 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Of course, Saipan. The Battle of Saipan one of the 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: most violent of the Second World War. It was considered 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: by Japan, of course, to be one of the last 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: lines of defense of their homeland, and a lot of 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: American Marines and Army took on a lot of Japanese 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: soldiers there, so there's a lot of history. Anyway, it's 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: an American protectorate. The plan is for for Assange to land, 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: to go to court, plead guilty to one felony, be 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: sentenced to sixty two months in jail the precise amount 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: of time he's been held in jail in London, and 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: then on the next plane out via back via Singapore, 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: we understand, and then home to Australia. So could be 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: by the end of the week. 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: So if he's only I mean, if he's appearing in 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: court tomorrow at nine am, which is what like eleven 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: Amur time and whatever type mid morning, early morning your time, 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: what's stopping him from jumping on a plane and just 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: hitting home straight away and being home tomorrow. 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Well, look, he might be. I just don't know what 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: airlines he's flying, and I don't know the the you know, 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: the connections out of Saipan back to mainland Asia. But certainly, look, 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of excitement here. I don't think anyone 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: much cares exactly when he touches down, just as long 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: as he does. I heard you make reference there to 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: what if they say, well, gotcha now, Because that's what 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: he's been fighting for. That's what he jumped into the 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: Ecuadorian embassy for, and that is why he has been 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: held in jail for five years and two months because 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: he would not be he would not accept extradition to 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: the United States, where he faced hundreds of years in jail. Basically, 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: in my view, is a you know, it was a 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: lifetime journalist. He was simply exercising freedom of speech. He 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: didn't steal the documents, he simply published them in the 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: same way as the was the New York Times, the 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: Washington Post published the Pentagon papers. I mean it's it's 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: it's documents out there in the public domain. For me, 44 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: I think putting stuff out like what we saw in 45 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: the in the in the wiki leaks, leaks, I think 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: it did. It did everyone a big, big favor. It 47 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: exposed what was going on. 48 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. Hey, what do you make of the 49 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: Matt keen appointment. 50 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: Well, uh, look, I don't know Matt Keenan all that. Well, 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: I've spoken to him Harvard dozen times, you know, interviewed 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: him and so on. It was estrange for the New 53 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: South Wales Liberal Party because he was such a lefty 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: he could almost have been a labor politician to be honest. Anyway, 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: he served as you know, he was a very young 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Minister for Energy, Minister for climate change, and he was 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: at odds of course with some on the hard right 58 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: wing side of the Liberal Party, the Conservatives over here. 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: It didn't seem to bother him. He was busy taking 60 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: potshots at anyone about the need to go renewable energy. 61 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: He was always an opponent of nuclear energy. So he 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: was about to quit. He's still a member of Parliament. 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: Actually just quit the Shadow Ministry. I think he leaves 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: on Friday. Anyway, he's been appointed to the chair of 65 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: the Climate Change Authority by Anthony Albanisi. And look this 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: outrage on the right hand side of politics over here, 67 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: you turncoat, you traitor left he's a saying well, beauty, 68 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean Albanisi an inspired master stroke to blunt Peter 69 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: Dutton's push for nuclear We have to wait and see. 70 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's not a pin up boy for 71 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: the right. I can assure you of that. 72 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah too, right, Muslssen, thank you as always really appreciated, 73 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you in a couple of days. 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