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Speaker 1: So has some common sense arrived at the building site

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Speaker 1: near you. On average takes almost nineteen months to get

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Speaker 1: a house built and consented, So come on in self certification.

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Speaker 1: Some tradees will be able to sort jobs for themselves.

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Speaker 1: Builders at scale will have life made easier. GJ. Garder,

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Speaker 1: General Manager, Oli Sunstrom is with us Oli morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 1: You like the sound of this broadly?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, you know, look fiercely, you know, thanks for

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Speaker 2: having me. Yeah, I'd like to know of our business.

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Speaker 2: Congratulate the current government for taking this first step and

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Speaker 2: making what we seem to be a common sense prevails

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Speaker 2: piece of legislation a priority.

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Speaker 1: Do you see risk in it or not?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Look, I think you know there's certainly risk that

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Speaker 2: at least speak calculative risk. And really that where the

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Speaker 2: measures that are set up and put in place to

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Speaker 2: manage the process, to manage the criteria needs needs to

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Speaker 2: be strict and visible.

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Speaker 1: So what is it what they're saying about how many

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Speaker 1: like yours? As you build similar homes all the time, therefore,

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Speaker 1: I've seen one, I've seen them all. Is it about that,

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Speaker 1: in other words, if you do the same thing over

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Speaker 1: and over again, or is it about you being good

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Speaker 1: people who can manage yourself anyway, no matter what you build.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, you know, certainly we consider ourselves to because

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Speaker 2: people no doubt about that. But really it comes down

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Speaker 2: to our bill performance and what we delivered to our customers.

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Speaker 2: You know, we have a very much approven track record

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Speaker 2: in this country and in this market. We've delivered right

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Speaker 2: across our national network over twenty three thousand homes to

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Speaker 2: Kiwis with every home that we've started completed, which says

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Speaker 2: a lot about our track record and the strict disciplines

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Speaker 2: we use. We're building track customers.

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Speaker 1: How much of what you do you just stand there

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Speaker 1: and literally say, this is a waste of time in

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Speaker 1: terms of paperwork and compliance.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, you know, there's no doubt that, you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the bureaucracy and red tape that's involved

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Speaker 2: in some of these processes that we're talking about slows

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Speaker 2: this down, you know, fairly significantly, you know, and it's

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Speaker 2: difficult when you can't control some of those things. So yeah, look,

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Speaker 2: it certainly has an impact, and we believe that with

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Speaker 2: this proposed piece of legislation from the current government that

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Speaker 2: we can really speed up the process as it stands.

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Speaker 1: What's the key benefit? Is it speed or is it

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Speaker 1: savings for the person buying the house?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I think it's both, you know, you know, to

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Speaker 2: give you an idea, you know, pre but the red

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Speaker 2: tape challenges that we're talking about. We could build and

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Speaker 2: hand over a two hundred square meter home from one

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Speaker 2: of our concept plans. You know, I'm talking three bedroom

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Speaker 2: to bathroom. We could deliver that home and you know

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Speaker 2: circle forteen fifteen weeks. You know, the delays we are

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Speaker 2: talking about can add forty to fifty percent of that

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Speaker 2: time frame, so, you know, with the right criteria, and

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Speaker 2: it needs to be the right criteria to builders such

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Speaker 2: as ourselves with a proven trek record, you know. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't is why we can't get back to these

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Speaker 2: time frames because it's the stains product and material and

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Speaker 2: labor supply and not an issue.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, Mully, go well with it. Appreciate Olie

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Speaker 1: Sunstrom who's with GJ. Gardner's Kieren mcinnaughty. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why he's the acting, but he's the acting in this

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Speaker 1: particular portfolio, and I not happens to be on the

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Speaker 1: program Apter eight o'clock. He seems to be behind it

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Speaker 1: as well, so common sense might well win the day.

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