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Speaker 1: In Decows are back this weekend in Florida Street Circuit

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Speaker 1: at Saint Pete. Scott McLoughlin finished tenth last year, tougher

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Speaker 1: season of course if you followed the sport you'll know why.

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Speaker 1: Three podiums though this year new team members got a

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Speaker 1: new engineer, which we'll talk about. So what are the prospects.

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Speaker 1: Scott McLachlin is with us. Good morning, Mike, Yeah, very

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Speaker 1: well mate, listen, just catch us up with the off

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Speaker 1: season family, travel, life and times.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: I went to New Zealand for the first time with

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Speaker 3: my daughter and they got to meet my parents, which

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Speaker 3: is really nice. And yeah, we managed to get a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a trip down Under for a little

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Speaker 3: bit and then it's been honestly, although since we've been

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Speaker 3: pretty full on over here at the team and wasn't

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Speaker 3: the best year for me personally, professionally pro personally it

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Speaker 3: was great, professionally.

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Speaker 2: Not so great.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I'm working really hard in the behind

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Speaker 3: the scenes to be better this year and feeling really good.

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Speaker 1: What do you do behind the scenes, literally before you

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Speaker 1: start a season, there's.

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Speaker 3: A ton of obviously training. I feel like I'm the

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Speaker 3: fittest I've ever been very, very a lot of work

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Speaker 3: in the gym. But at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 3: I've been working a lot with I've got a new engineer,

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Speaker 3: new strategist, so a lot has changed from on the

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Speaker 3: background of my car and what makes it go fast.

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Speaker 2: And I think we're in a really good spot there.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's you.

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Speaker 3: Know, you're having little, you know, growing pains together as

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Speaker 3: you get used to it on the simulator or whether

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Speaker 3: you're doing that at meetings or whatnot. But until you

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Speaker 3: hit the track, you know, it's hard to prep just

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Speaker 3: for that. But doing as much as we can right.

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Speaker 1: Now, what about that wheel time? I mean you did testing.

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Speaker 1: There was some testing the other day in Phoenix, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Phoenix and Seabring and Florida.

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Speaker 1: So how much actual wheel time outside of that do

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Speaker 1: you get of any.

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Speaker 3: Not a huge amount outside doing the daytime in twenty

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Speaker 2: At the start of the year, you know, I'll do

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Speaker 3: I've bought a gokard in the off season, so I

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Speaker 2: That, which was really handy.

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Speaker 3: Now people think it's not going to be that you know,

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Speaker 3: in touch with what I'm doing, but it actually is

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Speaker 3: very close, very physical. But yeah, outside of you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't drive an Indy car basically from the end

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Speaker 3: it's kind of crazy to think about that. But you know,

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Speaker 3: it's all the same for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Is it all muscle memory? You know when you get

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Speaker 1: back into the car after a gapload that it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit different, you know, after you've driven.

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Speaker 3: I drive Corvette at Daytona and race in Japan as well,

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Speaker 3: and you know, it's a little bit different having a

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Speaker 2: But once I jumped in the IndyCar, I had a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you talked briefly about last year. Let's not dwell

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Speaker 1: on that. But does it sit psychologically, How does it

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Speaker 1: sit psychologically with you? You know, in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: I think in a good way, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: in some ways. I'm using it as a little bit

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Speaker 3: Knowing that's really the lowest lows for me in many cases,

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Speaker 3: and honestly, I feel I feel.

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Speaker 2: Rejuvenized from that.

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Speaker 3: I know where I went wrong, but there's also parts

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Speaker 3: of last year where it was out of my hands

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Speaker 2: Not trying to swell too much on that. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I know where to improve.

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Speaker 3: I know, you know, my execution needs to be better,

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Speaker 1: And what about the experience as well? You into season

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Speaker 1: six now, so where are you? You're at home? Obviously

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Speaker 1: you feel good. You're a season pro. Does all that help? Oh?

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Speaker 2: For sure?

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Speaker 3: You know I think right now like I know what

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Speaker 3: I'm asking for things because I know what they did

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Speaker 3: leaning on that. You know, this is my sixth season

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the engineer roll, isn't it. He's a cool guy,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can overstate the value of a

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: And look, I was very lucky with my last guy,

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Speaker 3: Ben Bretzman, but he's gone into upper management and it's

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Speaker 2: And it's the same for a role.

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Speaker 3: He's followed me a long time since in supercars and

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Speaker 3: loves his loves his racing, and you know, he's very experienced.

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Speaker 3: He's won championships all over the world, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think he really understands me well already, and that

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Speaker 2: For the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: Is that that art all science?

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Speaker 3: I think there's an art to keeping me calm and

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, he's a great dude. He's very calm,

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Speaker 1: And can you tell whether it's going to work. I mean,

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Speaker 3: You just have this this inkling, you know, I just

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't feel that at all. I feel

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Speaker 3: We're talking about, you know, different setups and what I

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Speaker 2: He understands is my language, and that's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: You've also got changes to the team, of course, new teammate,

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Speaker 1: Is it like you're doing what you're doing within a

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Speaker 1: and it is a team thing?

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Speaker 3: In some ways, yes, that it's a bit you know,

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Speaker 3: you have it's every man for themselves, and then in

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Speaker 3: other ways you need to work together. Ultimately, right now,

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Speaker 3: I think as a team we work really hard together

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Speaker 2: As a team, we need to be quicker.

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Speaker 3: Ganassi is strong with Scott Dixon obviously, and aw it's

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Speaker 3: way we get there really is by working together to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you mentioned Scott. Do you have to call

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Speaker 3: Now he's Sir Scott on my phone, no joke, pretty funny.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's amazing. I don't think he gets

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Speaker 2: With sir Scott.

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Speaker 1: Do all the Americans get the knighthood thing? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think to a point there's definitely probably probably not

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Speaker 2: That's my goal. You look at someone like that and

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Speaker 1: I was going to I was going to ask exactly that.

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Speaker 1: So he's basically giving you a pathway, hasn't he.

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Speaker 3: Like he gives you the example that it's possible if

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Speaker 3: you make no mistakes, you use the experience that you

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Speaker 1: What are your personal KPIs for the year? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what do you need to do literally for it to

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Speaker 1: be a good season outside of the you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it's an easy answer to say, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: five hundred, But you know, for me, it's I want

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Speaker 3: last stop, because that's when you've got a chance to

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Speaker 3: win the race. And then same with the season. You know,

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Speaker 3: I want to be in the last couple of races.

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Speaker 2: That's my whole game.

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Speaker 3: This year is making sure limit the mistakes, you know,

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Speaker 3: take what I can get. I'm not going to win

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Speaker 3: every race, but if possible, I can maximize every race,

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Speaker 3: and that's what I haven't done in the past.

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Speaker 1: Couple of racing questions outside your particular domain. One, have

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Speaker 1: you seen the supers and what do you make of them?

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Speaker 3: They're slow right now, but they're gonna they look cool.

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Speaker 3: I think it's cool that they're getting getting. You know,

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Speaker 3: they've got to key behind the wheel wheel and Ryan Wood,

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Speaker 3: which I'm excited for. I love what He's a great dude,

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Speaker 3: and just yeah, I'm excited to watch watch them. I'm

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Speaker 3: actually most excited for them to go and race twice

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of jealous in some ways. I think that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And the other one was the IF one,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how much you're following this, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've spoken to a couple of guys in the

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Speaker 3: imagine trying to learn that every single year and trying

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Speaker 3: to maximize it as well.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, some guys will probably.

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Speaker 3: Scrapped halfway through the year to build a better car

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Speaker 3: for twenty twenty seven. So it's kind of it's it's weird,

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Speaker 3: it's you know, I really enjoy my indicart race and

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Speaker 3: I'll can do that.

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Speaker 1: And I mean they suggest it's an age thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you subscribe to that the younger you are, the

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Speaker 1: more adaptable you are or is that not true?

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Speaker 3: Ah? I think I think it's your reactions as you

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Speaker 3: when you're younger, you can probably adapt to different things

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at.

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Speaker 3: Someone like Scottie, right, Scott Dixon being in the game

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Speaker 3: his experience he figured it out. I think as a

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's part of it. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I might be smoke by the way he's got

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Speaker 1: to go caut. He always says I should buy a

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Speaker 1: gokut because they're super fun and it's super cheap racing.

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Speaker 1: Are they worth it?

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Speaker 3: They are? I mean, I'm the patron of Castport of

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Speaker 3: and you can race from a young age and it's fun.

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Speaker 2: But the coolest thing I remember from gokarting was racing.

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Speaker 3: My family and going around to New Plymouth for going

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Speaker 2: Know, going everywhere all over New Zealand and racing together.

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Speaker 2: And that's what's so fun about gogarting.

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Speaker 3: So it's fun like to be on track and you

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Speaker 3: get that thrill of racing, but you also had that

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Speaker 3: thrill of going out with your mates and you know

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Speaker 3: after that maybe having a beer and going home.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's fun.

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Speaker 1: All right, men, good luck in Florida. Lovely to catch

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Speaker 1: up with you. I hope the season's a fantastic one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Mike apprecia having me there.

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