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Speaker 2: They'd be good. Afternoon. It is Monday, the tenth of February.

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Speaker 2: Great to have your company. The Left has the numbers

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Speaker 2: Matthewhurton basically wants us to invade the Cooks and Trump's tariffs?

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Speaker 2: Could they hit forty million dollars worth of our exports?

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Speaker 2: All ahead, Bryan Bridge. As we speak, Luxon is giving

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Speaker 2: more detail on his much hyped international investment summit. Apparently

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Speaker 2: the past. The UK ran a similar summit last year.

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Speaker 2: our twenty eight now. Nikola Willis also revealed on this

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Speaker 2: Should Labour get back into power. Their economic formula, as

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Speaker 2: how even alone after twenty twenty six, And that would

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Speaker 1: Informed inside into today's issues. It's Ryan bridge On, hither

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Speaker 1: dupericy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 2: News talks'd be just content after four Jason Pines here

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Speaker 2: sports talk, Hey Jason kid I Ryan good to have

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Speaker 2: you on? So what's going on with the or we'll

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Speaker 3: Absolute demolition job by the Philadelphia Eagles on the Kansas

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Speaker 3: As I say, Kansas City have been good all year,

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Speaker 3: You know, that's for me anyway, not the way that

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Speaker 2: Somebody says Ryan, it wasn't a jeep going up these

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Speaker 2: News Talks ZBB, sixteen minutes after for what is going

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Speaker 2: on with New Zealand's relationship with Pacific Nations. A couple

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Speaker 2: She joins me this afternoon, Hyanna, is it unusual to

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Speaker 5: Well, I think for New Zealand it is particularly unusual,

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Speaker 2: With the issue to do with the Cook Islands, there's

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Speaker 2: very least getting advice on military options to deal with this.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's a little over the top.

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Speaker 5: I think that's extraordinarily irresponsible and pretty ill informed. Actually,

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Speaker 2: if they're off, you know, being wined and dined in Beijing,

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's important to be clear that actually,

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Speaker 5: there is obviously a clear expectation by Foreign Minister Peters

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for Chimas afternoon, Andre analysis Anna

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Speaker 2: Pole's associate professor and Security Studies at Massi University, just

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Speaker 2: So this is what he said. This is Matthew Howton

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Speaker 2: which the New Zealand military is obliged to defend. It

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Speaker 2: incident when nineteen eighty seven with long E and Fiji,

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Speaker 2: The'd be twenty three minutes after four on whether we

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Speaker 2: go and invade the Cook Islands? Ryan with what says

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Speaker 2: Send a ferry to the Cooks perhaps, another says Ryan.

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Speaker 2: No one doubts that. Seymour said he pulled the stunt

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Speaker 2: someone said, Ryan, this is from Glennis I think her

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Speaker 2: Also interesting news out of Australia which we'll get to

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Speaker 2: after the news. A Victorian by election result, very bad

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Speaker 6: It'd be just like my Songle and Martin Lamarviv Songle.

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Speaker 2: They'd be this Monday afternoon. So the consensus, no, we

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Speaker 2: should not invade the cooks. David Seymour seems like being

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Speaker 2: twenty four to five.

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Speaker 7: They'd be drive.

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Speaker 8: Eddy Steel coming into the United States is going to

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Speaker 9: But it's going to get ended back.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles, Philadelphia Eagles have won the Super Bowl forty

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Speaker 2: He'll be having a good party tonight, won you. Finally,

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Speaker 2: six in this year's Puppy Bowl. The Puppy Bowl is

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Speaker 12: Allen is overcome with joy and he is jumping over

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Speaker 2: I'm very American. We wouldn't be allowed to do it here,

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon yet a Ryan, Hey, this has been bad

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Speaker 13: Yeah it has. And look it is a state parliamentary

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it, Because you start to look and

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Speaker 2: sound like a loser. I mean when you get numbers

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Speaker 13: And the thing is he also when he comes over

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Speaker 13: When you are here, you just get on with the job,

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Speaker 13: and you're right that loser talk is really creeping in.

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Speaker 2: The ASX took a bit of a hit this afternoon.

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah, it fell as soon as we open this morning.

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Speaker 13: As you say, he made those comments.

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Speaker 7: Off the cuff.

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Speaker 13: But there is now a phone call scheduled sometime between

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Speaker 2: Interesting, we'll keep in breast to that one. And Brian

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Speaker 13: Can I put it that way, Ryan, because last night

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Speaker 13: The doors stayed locked at five point thirty, and that

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Speaker 13: hour is up indicating the sewer was blocked and they

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Speaker 13: the Brian Adams show has canceled last night. It's not

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Speaker 13: going to be rescheduled. Everybody's getting their money back. But

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Speaker 13: there were thousands and thousands of people in the middle

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Speaker 13: people that live here. Ryan By the way, who could

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Speaker 2: That's them. I would be a great time, does that? Hey,

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Speaker 2: they may not have got Brian Adams, but they got

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Speaker 2: Alberanzi twenty eight times? Are we lucky? Ryan? You guys

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Speaker 2: olive for Peterson six PR Perth Live presenter our Australia correspondent.

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Speaker 2: So that's an interesting development. Trump and Albanize is going

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Speaker 2: well you don't have to pay the tariff. It was

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Speaker 2: of a phone call with Donald Trump? I guess we'll

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Speaker 2: It has just gone quarter to five news talks. He'd

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Speaker 2: be Barry Soaper, senior political correspondence with US. Hey, Barry,

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Speaker 2: good afternoon. Right, lots to talk about, So it just

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Speaker 2: rip straight and so postcab today and Luxon has been

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Speaker 2: talking about the investment summit that's next month.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that it is particularly exciting. I mean, the more

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Speaker 14: than one hundred of the world's high profile investors have

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Speaker 14: been invited to the country. And believe me, they will

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Speaker 14: be coming, they say. If you listen to Chris Bishop,

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Speaker 14: he says they're over subscribed at the moment all the summit.

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Speaker 14: So people are interested in investing in this country. And

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Speaker 14: I've talked recently to some people that are in the know.

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Speaker 14: They say they want to have projects that they can

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Speaker 14: invest in, and presumably this summit will show where investment

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Speaker 14: can be attracted to this country. The fast track for projects,

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Speaker 14: infrastructure projects and the like that got underway essentially last Friday,

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Speaker 14: and Luxon says the March summit is aimed at showing

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Speaker 14: that this country is an easy place to do business area.

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Speaker 15: We want people from all corners of the globe to

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Speaker 15: know that there's now a culture of saying yes in

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Speaker 15: New Zealand, yes to investment, yes to innovation, and yes

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Speaker 15: to getting stuff done. International investment is absolutely critical to

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Speaker 15: this vision. Attracting our share of global capital and expertise

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Speaker 15: to our shores will help dig us out of the

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Speaker 15: infrastructure deficit this government inherited a lot faster and a

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Speaker 15: lot quicker. We want to lift derek and productivity, ensuring

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Speaker 15: that we obviously remain competitive on the world stage. And

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Speaker 15: at the end of the day, kiwis will be the

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Speaker 15: winners because the more investment and more capital we can attract,

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Speaker 15: ultimately it leads to higher incomes and more jobs.

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Speaker 14: And they've loosened up migration for business people to come

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Speaker 14: here and invest in the country. The one thing that

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Speaker 14: they haven't done, and they have to do it at

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Speaker 14: some stage, Ryan, is to make it easier for overseas

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Speaker 14: investors to buy property in this country. And well, that

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Speaker 14: is a problem that really has to be overcome.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's something that voters need to think about, isn't

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Speaker 2: it At the next election. Do you want to sort

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Speaker 2: of unleash national and act together yes and have them

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Speaker 2: go whole hog, or do you want that handbrake still

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Speaker 2: to stop stuff like that. Seymour, speaking of handbrakes, he

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Speaker 2: didn't really use one. Today Seymour launches up the steps

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Speaker 2: of Parliament and then land Rover Well.

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Speaker 14: First of all, you may have seen a story by

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Speaker 14: Carolyn Menyi in the Herald one Sunday yesterday essentially saying

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Speaker 14: that Seymour wrote a more than thousand word letter in

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Speaker 14: defense of Polkinghorn, not defense but in support of him.

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Speaker 14: And Semour says, look, he as a constituent and he

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Speaker 14: was writing as an MP, and that is fair enough.

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Speaker 14: He wasn't a minister. And I'll tell you what though,

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Speaker 14: the Prime Minister is slightly embarrassed about that. He said

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Speaker 14: that certainly you may have you know, he wouldn't have

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Speaker 14: done it himself, and he said the sending the letter

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Speaker 14: was essentially ill advised and he wasn't too happy about it.

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Speaker 2: Personally.

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Speaker 15: I thought sending the letter was ill advised. He's aware

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Speaker 15: of my views on that. But as you all know,

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Speaker 15: he wasn't a cabinet minister at the time. There's been

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Speaker 15: no breach to the Cabinet manual. He didn't do this

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Speaker 15: as a minister. I just think our sending letter was

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Speaker 15: ill advised. That's my personal view on it, but ultimately

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Speaker 15: our questions un.

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Speaker 14: And what it really shows is the impetus impotent see

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Speaker 14: of the Prime Minister when it comes to ministers from

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Speaker 14: another party. In the fact is though that David Seymour

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Speaker 14: and May becomes the deputy Prime Minister and that driving

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Speaker 14: the jeep up that was part of a stunt, no

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Speaker 14: doubt about it. And the television cameras were out, so

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Speaker 14: they were advised that he was about to do it.

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Speaker 14: And you would have thought that David Seymour has been

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Speaker 14: rounded long enough to have at least sought the permission

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Speaker 14: of the Speaker's office or indeed talked to security about it,

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Speaker 14: and they were rather embarrassed they had to say back.

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Speaker 2: Off, especially given during the national charge charged by police

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Speaker 2: after that. Remember, so he and if you're about to

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Speaker 2: be the deputy Prime minister, that wouldn't be a great

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Speaker 2: lock would to start behaving yourself In his defense, though

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Speaker 2: he wasn't a minister when he wrote that letter hadn't

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Speaker 2: been charged at that point, so you know, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: like he was going no.

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Speaker 14: And that's fair enough, But I think the question, the

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Speaker 14: permanent question was, and it probably doesn't really matter, but

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Speaker 14: was old Polky a bit? Was he a better factor

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Speaker 14: to David Semol's party?

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Speaker 2: And also just judgment when you meet someone and you

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Speaker 2: look at them and you are anyway. Yeah, it's pretty serious,

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Speaker 2: it is right now, another pole, this is from a

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Speaker 2: Caurier tax payer union pole, and the Left could govern.

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Speaker 14: Yes, well, the Caurier pole of course, that is the

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Speaker 14: National Party's polsters. So the last one was the Trbot Mills,

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Speaker 14: which is Labour's polster telling the same story at the moment,

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Speaker 14: and it just really does show how hard it is

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Speaker 14: for Luxon and his coalition to make any headway with

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Speaker 14: the public when the economy is still swimming around and

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Speaker 14: not really producing the results. They're coming up with some

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Speaker 14: ideas now, there's no doubt about that, and one would

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Speaker 14: hope for their sake that if they really want to

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Speaker 14: win the treasury benches next year, now they're really going

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Speaker 14: to have to set about making some pretty good policy

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Speaker 14: announcements this year and basically affecting them, putting them into effect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they need some runs on the board, they need

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Speaker 2: those treasury those rosy treasury predictions of three point three percent. Great,

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Speaker 2: you just start coming to fruition.

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Speaker 14: Well, if you listen to the enthusiasm coming from Chris

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Speaker 14: Luxon today, you'd say, oh, they're home and ours.

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Speaker 2: You know, Barry Sober, great to have you, as always

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Speaker 2: seen your political correspondent here at News Talk Thered be

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Speaker 2: It has just gone nine minutes away from five. Don't

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Speaker 2: forget Chris Bishop live after five on that Foreign investors summit.

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Speaker 2: Who are these one hundred big wigs apparently heading down under?

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 16: The Golden visas back unentries five million over three years

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Speaker 16: for growth ideas ten million over five years for more

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Speaker 16: conservative plans. By the way, it gets your residency. Former

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Speaker 16: Labor Cabinet Minister Stuart Nationals buttis you congratulate the government?

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Speaker 16: Why I've done a really good job on this.

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Speaker 17: I mean I launched this visa September twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 17: The intense still assignment's about as of investment. We want

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Speaker 17: people over here and going to contribute to the economy

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Speaker 17: and our community. We've got a couple of things wrong,

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Speaker 17: I'd met. That's about a government taking.

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Speaker 2: A look at what we did so we could do

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Speaker 2: a couple.

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Speaker 16: Of things better, I agree to open it on them

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Speaker 16: and as one of those things that you can do

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Speaker 16: better as the language test.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, what was happening is some very wealthy guides down

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Speaker 17: that quite insulted that they came from countries where English

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Speaker 17: wasn't the first language. We were forcing to take a

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Speaker 17: chest if not required.

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Speaker 16: Mate back tomorrow at six am. The mic asking Breakfast

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Speaker 16: with the Rain drove of the lame newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Six minutes away from five on news Talk ZB A

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Speaker 2: lots of texts about David Seymour and his polking Horn.

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Speaker 2: Well let's call it the polking Horn essay because it

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Speaker 2: was a thousand words long. Surely the point of the

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Speaker 2: letter is too is don't defend someone. This is from

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Speaker 2: one of our texters. Don't defend someone if you're not

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure of the facts. It wasn't just

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Speaker 2: a short note. It was a thousand words plus letter.

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Speaker 2: Speaks to a serious lack of judgment. Leave it to

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Speaker 2: the police to do their job. The thing is as

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Speaker 2: a constituent MP, like when you have got an MP

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Speaker 2: with actual people in it, not like the Greens, you

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Speaker 2: have a responsibility to represent them to the government if

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Speaker 2: they are falling between the cracks offer and it's an

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Speaker 2: immigration case, you will always get them dealing with immigrations,

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Speaker 2: sometimes with child uth and family ordering a tamadiki and

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Speaker 2: as an MP, they'll write to you and they'll say,

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Speaker 2: I'm having this problem. The government is on my back.

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Speaker 2: Government's on my back about something they shouldn't be. Can

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Speaker 2: you please help me navigate this? And it's part of

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Speaker 2: your job to do that. Now, whether you would do

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Speaker 2: it with somebody who is potentially going to be facing

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Speaker 2: criminal charges remember at that point he wasn't, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's a judgment. Call nine two ninety two

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Speaker 2: is the number of text a lots of texts coming

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Speaker 2: in still on the issue of the Cook Islands. Ryan, surely,

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Speaker 2: oh this is about the poll. Ryan, Surely, surely Kiwis

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Speaker 2: aren't stupid enough to go with another far left government

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Speaker 2: after the debicle of the last lot. Surely not. Well, Actually,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you the numbers because we didn't quite get

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Speaker 2: all of them. So this is the Taxpayer Union Curier

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Speaker 2: poll National thirty one point nine. That's up two point three.

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Speaker 2: They'll be happy about that. Labour thirty one point three

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Speaker 2: just Whisker behind. They are up point four, Act down

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Speaker 2: point eight on ten. The Greens up three point seven.

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Speaker 2: That's the biggest jump to thirteen point two percent. To

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Speaker 2: Party Malti four point four, that's down point nine. New

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Speaker 2: Zealand First six point four, that's down one point seven.

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Speaker 2: This is compared to January's poll. Now, the interesting part

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Speaker 2: about all of this is then the number you really

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Speaker 2: need to care about is the right track wrong track?

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Speaker 2: This determines who wins an election. It's how's the country going?

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Speaker 2: Are we heading in the right direction? No? Thirty four

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Speaker 2: percent of us say that the country is moving in

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Speaker 2: the right direction compared to fifty percent who say it's

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Speaker 2: moving in the wrong direction. And that is the number

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Speaker 2: that Luxon and co. And this summit we're about to

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Speaker 2: talk to Bishop about need to turn around news talks.

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Speaker 7: EB when you're not here, win me falling Aparlot in

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Speaker 7: fun candle, John May breaking, Harvey lesson.

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Speaker 1: the full picture? Brian Bridge on hither duplicy allan drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand Let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be good evening. It is five oh seven Monday,

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Speaker 2: tenth of February. Great to have your company. The Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister announcing a two day international summit which will take

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Speaker 2: place mid next month. Lucks And says it will bring

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Speaker 2: global investment leaders here as part of the government's economic

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Speaker 2: growth agenda. Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop has with me, good evening,

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Speaker 2: Good evening. Who's coming. Well, we'll be publishing the.

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Speaker 18: List a bit closer to the time, so you'll be

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Speaker 18: able to see who's coming. But we've had over subscription

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Speaker 18: so far from global investment companies, pension funds from around

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Speaker 18: the world for example, who are looking to invest in

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Speaker 18: New Zealand. And in fact, we've about one hundred cheers

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Speaker 18: and CEOs from around the world coming. We've actually been oversubscribed.

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Speaker 2: So now got a waiting list. So your black Crocs,

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Speaker 2: your vanguards, your JP Morgan's.

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Speaker 18: Oh, there's a variety of investment vehicles around the world.

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Speaker 18: I couldn't tell you, but there's a variety of investment

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Speaker 18: vehicles around the world. I have looked at the list

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Speaker 18: for the last few days, but I can tell you

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Speaker 18: that there's a huge interest from around the world in

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Speaker 18: the New Zealand economy.

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Speaker 2: Would jump out wouldn't it. I mean, if you'd seen

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Speaker 2: Black Watt Rock, you'd probably remember it was on there.

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Speaker 18: I haven't seen the list in the last few days,

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Speaker 18: so I can't I can't give you, can't give you it.

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Speaker 18: But we will be publishing the lost b the time.

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Speaker 2: All right, sweetest. When you say it's oversubscribed, what do

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Speaker 2: you mean that you have room for one hundred people

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Speaker 2: and those hundred seats are taken, and why only a hundred?

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Speaker 18: We wanted it to focus on how you know, the

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Speaker 18: highest value investment and the and the you know, the

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Speaker 18: global leaders and when it comes to infrastructure and investment

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Speaker 18: and more investment more broadly, so we'll be looking at

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Speaker 18: whether or not we can expand the number of people

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Speaker 18: who can come to the summit. But what we're doing

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Speaker 18: is sending the message that New Zealand is open for

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Speaker 18: business and that this is about jobs and growth and

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Speaker 18: investing in the enormous potential of an Zealand economy, which

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Speaker 18: is something that New Zealand needs to do.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. But one hundred SEMs a random number. I mean,

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Speaker 2: why not you know, whoever wants to come can come.

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Speaker 2: Whoever's got money.

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Speaker 18: Oh well, it's no more random than a one hundred

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Speaker 18: and one or one hundred and two. I mean, like

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Speaker 18: it's just a number limit. I guess were you worry

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Speaker 18: theseuses wouldn't get filled?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, not at all.

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Speaker 18: Mean New Zealand is hosting the summit, so the investors

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Speaker 18: who are coming are paying for their way here. But

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Speaker 18: we're we're hosting the summit ourselves. So there's you know,

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Speaker 18: we're not going to have you know, like a thousand people.

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Speaker 18: But what we are trying to do is get high

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Speaker 18: value investment into New Zealand. We want jobs and growth

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Speaker 18: and as I say, a huge degree of interest from

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Speaker 18: around the world in it.

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Speaker 2: What kinds of projects are we talking about here? Is

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Speaker 2: that mainly infrastructure projects? Is it the fast track projects?

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Speaker 18: There'll be investment opportunities presented at the summit, largely around

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Speaker 18: public infrastructure, but it's also about talking about a pipeline

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Speaker 18: of opportunities into the future. So it's not just about

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Speaker 18: investment opportunities in the next six months or year or

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Speaker 18: so that will come to market from the government's point

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Speaker 18: of view, but also about the long term pipeline. You know,

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Speaker 18: clearly we've got the Roads of National Significance, which is

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Speaker 18: a long term procedure of projects. You know that we

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Speaker 18: want to build around the country, but we've also got

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Speaker 18: big investment needs when it comes to health infrastructure, of

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Speaker 18: school infrastructure for example. But we'll also be showcasing opportunities

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Speaker 18: around renewable energy, around advanced transportation, around the Mari economy

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Speaker 18: for example. So there'll be an EE component to the

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Speaker 18: summit as well. So it'll be about showcasing some of

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Speaker 18: those others which are real growth potential sectors for New

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Speaker 18: Zealand as well where there might be private sector investment

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Speaker 18: that flows into private business.

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Speaker 2: All right, minister, thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. That is Chris Bishops, the Infrastructure Minister, talking

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Speaker 2: about the summit that's taking place taking place mid next

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Speaker 2: month here in New Zealand. Tenough to find ran Bridge

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Speaker 2: exact leader David Seymour was on a bit of a well,

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Speaker 2: he's on a roll today. The Prime Minister has called

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Speaker 2: his decision to write to police over their investigation and

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Speaker 2: to Philip Polkinghorn quote ill advised. And just a few

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Speaker 2: hours ago Seymour drove a land drover up the steps

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Speaker 2: of Parliament and security guard had to order him back down.

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Speaker 2: He's with me this evening, David Good evening, Minister Good evening.

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Speaker 2: We'll start with the polking Horn letter. Why did you

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Speaker 2: send it?

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Speaker 19: Because my job as a local MP is to be

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Speaker 19: a bit like a fallback, the last line of defense

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Speaker 19: for people who live in the EPSOM electorate that selected

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Speaker 19: me to represent them. And if I've got a distraught

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Speaker 19: person in my office, someone who's very upset, I'm going

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Speaker 19: to do my best to help them, as I have

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Speaker 19: for hundreds of not thousands of constituents over the last

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Speaker 19: ten years. It might interest people to know that if

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Speaker 19: you go on the police website, it says one of

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Speaker 19: the things you can do if you feel that you've

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Speaker 19: been unfairly treated by police as go and see your

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Speaker 19: local MP, which this man did. I subsequently wrote a

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Speaker 19: letter which details quite a large number of concerns where

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Speaker 19: he felt he had been treated unfairly. I was very

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Speaker 19: careful to write the letter, and I explicitly said I

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Speaker 19: respect the constitutional separation between members of Parliament and police.

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Speaker 19: I did not comment on whether they should or shouldn't

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Speaker 19: be prosecuting or investigating him, only to point out that

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Speaker 19: he was someone that had lost his wife regardless of

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Speaker 19: what people may think of that, and that he had

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Speaker 19: was in some distress and felt he'd been treated unfairly.

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Speaker 19: And I would do that for anyone because I think

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Speaker 19: the job of a local MP is very important.

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Speaker 11: There's been some.

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Speaker 19: Tawdry innuendo from Caroline men Ye, a journalist at The Herald,

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Speaker 19: suggesting that somehow I only would help people if they

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Speaker 19: were owners. I think that's outrageous. I've helped people who

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Speaker 19: are penniless. I've helped people that are on the hard

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Speaker 19: left to publicly criticize me and the ACT Party and

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Speaker 19: hate everything we stand for. But if they live in

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Speaker 19: the electorate, I'll help them. In one example, Bradbury's actually.

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Speaker 2: Did you have.

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 19: First of all, we publish all of our donations that

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Speaker 19: were required to Second of all, I don't know. I

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Speaker 19: didn't know then. I don't know now if he's given

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Speaker 19: a minor amount, but I know that he hasn't given

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Speaker 19: an amount that's decleared, because that's in the public record.

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Speaker 19: If you get to a point where politicians have to

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Speaker 19: explain who every single person that has ever made a

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Speaker 19: donation is, whether of are saying yes, all of us

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Speaker 19: saying no. You've introduced a totally different level of trust

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Speaker 19: in our society, and certainly people might start asking journalists

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Speaker 19: if they're on the take for the stories that they write.

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Speaker 19: I don't think that Caravin Meni would like that, and

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Speaker 19: I certainly would never suggest it. So I don't think that.

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Speaker 2: You kind of just did in a roundabout way.

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Speaker 19: Well, well, I tell you what, that's what she would say.

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Speaker 19: But actually, you know, one of the things about the

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Speaker 19: media is you tend to believe it until you've been

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Speaker 19: in a story, and I personally wouldn't believe a story

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Speaker 19: that that journalist wrote.

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Speaker 2: Again, all right, let's go to the tractor. Not the tractor, sorry,

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Speaker 2: that was SHANEA. Durhan, but Shaneadurne. Actually, when he drove

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Speaker 2: the tractor up the steps of Parliament, he got in

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Speaker 2: trouble with the police. They charged him. Have the police

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Speaker 2: been in touch with you about the landrover?

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Speaker 19: No, I haven't had anyone in touch with me. But

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Speaker 19: it does show just how crazy our world has got,

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Speaker 19: just for people that may not know. The person that

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Speaker 19: had the land rover is a Professor Payton from Auckland University.

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Speaker 19: He's someone I first came across. Funnily enough, when he

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Speaker 19: moved to the EPSOM electorate. I helped him on an

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Speaker 19: unrelated matter as a constituency MP and he got in touch.

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Speaker 19: He's doing this fundraising. He's actually doing research at the

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Speaker 19: university to use the skin cells of a baby to

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Speaker 19: grow a heart valve that will be a living heart

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Speaker 19: valve that grows with the baby's heart, so that unlike

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Speaker 19: if they have saved Romantic.

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Speaker 2: It's an amazing thing. How did we get from this

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Speaker 2: medical America to you on the steps of Parliament driving

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Speaker 2: a car.

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Speaker 19: Well, the miracle hasn't happened yet. He's trying to raise

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Speaker 19: three hundred thousand dollars. He's raised about forty eight So

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Speaker 19: I just checked on his website and I've encouraged people,

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Speaker 19: you know, Google Drive for Heart, and I think it's

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Speaker 19: a good cause that people might want to chip in for.

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Speaker 19: So his plan was to re enact something that happened

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Speaker 19: eighty years ago, was the first land rover imported to

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Speaker 19: New Zealand and to demonstrate its ability and power as

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Speaker 19: a vehicle, they drove it up the steps of Parliament.

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Speaker 19: If you are to see how mad the world has got.

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Speaker 19: I'm now getting interviewed on multiple media channels about doing this.

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Speaker 19: I think it's the people from nineteen forty eight were around.

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Speaker 19: They'd be astonished that I got to talk on the

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Speaker 19: wireless for doing this rather mundane act.

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Speaker 2: David Seymour, thank you very much for your time, the

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Speaker 2: ACT party leader and a government minister. I suppose, I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't really give a toss whether he drives are

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Speaker 2: trackedor up there, whether he drives a land rover up there,

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Speaker 2: whether he drives a skateboard up the steps of Parliament.

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Speaker 2: My only concern is if it was any Joe Bloggs

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Speaker 2: who did it, you know, during the Treaty protest or

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Speaker 2: during the COVID protest, would they have been treated differently?

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Speaker 2: It's my question. Sixteen after five News Talk ZB. It

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Speaker 2: is nineteen minutes after five News Talks ZB. Ryan have heart.

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Speaker 2: The land driver's stunt was for charity. That is very

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Speaker 2: different to a protest. Ryan David Seymour gets told not

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Speaker 2: to drive a land drover up the steps. Meanwhile, the

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Speaker 2: speaker allows a hakka to disrupt Parliament while it's sitting.

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Speaker 2: It is nineteen after five. Ryan Bridge entertainment of extravagant

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Speaker 2: proportions today at Super Bowl fifty nine. On the field,

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Philadelphia Eagles have smashed the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 11: For the second time.

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Speaker 20: Defense a body chill for his head into Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 20: drive in Super Bowl fifty nine.

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Speaker 2: And off the field, we've seen expensive ads and a

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Speaker 2: supersized halftime show. Fresh from a five Grammy sweep, Kendrick

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Speaker 2: Lamar took the stage for one of the most watched

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Speaker 2: moments on TV to debrief on how it went. Executive

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Speaker 2: music editor at Variety, Jim Aswad joins me, Now, hi, Jim.

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Speaker 9: Good evening, good morning, whatever it is there, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's for us, Thank you for being with us. So

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Speaker 2: Kendrick Lama promised a storytelling. Did he deliver He most

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Speaker 2: certainly did.

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Speaker 10: He delivered what maybe the final chapter in his I

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Speaker 10: mean he dominated Drake the way that the Chiefs dominated

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Speaker 10: or the Eagles dominated the.

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Speaker 9: Chiefs, you know.

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Speaker 10: I mean it was like Drake gave up so long ago,

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Speaker 10: and Kendrick didn't deliver the line. Everybody was waiting for

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Speaker 10: him too, because there would have been lawsuits.

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Speaker 9: And things like that.

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Speaker 10: But he did all the rest of it, and he

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Speaker 10: referenced it. He said something like, I want to play

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Speaker 10: their favorite song, but they always sue and at the

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Speaker 10: very end, not everybody noticed this in the audience, you know,

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Speaker 10: the light up wristbands, they have a bunch of fans

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Speaker 10: were seated.

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Speaker 9: So it's spelled game over, which.

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Speaker 10: It kind of is.

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Speaker 9: And Drake is touring Australia right now. How about that?

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Speaker 2: How many people tuned in for this one?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 9: I don't even know, but it's it. I think it

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Speaker 9: is the single most watched television program in the world.

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Speaker 9: Is that possible?

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Speaker 11: I think it is.

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Speaker 10: It definitely is in the United States, and it's the

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Speaker 10: biggest stage for a musical artist.

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Speaker 9: There's nothing bigger.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because when you look at TV viewership more generally,

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Speaker 2: it's on the D line, right, But when you look

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Speaker 2: at the NFL, when you look at Super Bowl, they

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Speaker 2: are breaking records every time they do it. So what

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Speaker 2: are they getting right?

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Speaker 10: Well, the difference is the only thing that young people

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Speaker 10: watch on broadcast television is sports, and that's because that's

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Speaker 10: where it is. Sure you can watch online, but that's

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Speaker 10: going through the networks, and I'm sure they manage to.

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Speaker 9: Count it in some way. Television is unquestionably on the

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Speaker 9: decline in TV ratings, which people, especially Donald Trump, still

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Speaker 9: act like are still such a big deal.

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Speaker 14: They are not.

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Speaker 10: That's not where the audience is, especially young audience. They're

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Speaker 10: online and they're on social media. So that's where your

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Speaker 10: real impact is.

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Speaker 2: Jim, thank you very much for that. Jem As Sward

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Speaker 2: with US executive music editor at Variety, talking about the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, Big game over there, twenty two minutes after

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Speaker 2: five year on news talks, there'd be coming up next.

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Speaker 2: I'll just just have something to tell you about real

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Speaker 2: estate agents.

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Speaker 1: That's next on the iHeart app and in your car

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Speaker 1: on your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on Hither Duplicy

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Speaker 1: Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

872
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Speaker 2: They'd be good evening. It's five twenty five on news talks.

873
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: There'd be sums here and you know what that means.

874
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: The air is warmer, humidities up, and those pesky bugs

875
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: that crawl out at the weekends to suck everyone's blood dry,

876
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 2: leaving itchy scars behind. They are out in full force. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about real estate agents, like a vulture to

878
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: road kill. They circle the open homes, watching, listening, waiting

879
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: to pounce on that poor young couple that haven't eaten

880
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: a proper meal in weeks. They've been out on a

881
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: diet of spaghetti and toast, starving themselves to save enough

882
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: money to hire the builder for the pre auction inspection,

883
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Speaker 2: let alone the deposit to buy the actual house. We've

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Speaker 2: all been there, We've all hated them, We've all wanted

885
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Speaker 2: to run their smiley faced billboards over with our cars.

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Speaker 2: And today that long forgotten feeling of rage returned as

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Speaker 2: I read the story about the guy bidding at an

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Speaker 2: auction on a house in Greenheith, which is in Auckland.

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00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 2: The auctioneer asked for final bids. Right, our guy has

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00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: one point three one million, three hundred and five million, sorry,

891
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: one million, three hundred and five thousand on the table.

892
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Speaker 2: The auctioneersys going sold to our man, and he was wrapped.

893
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 2: He was over the moon. And then there's some murmuring

894
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Speaker 2: in the back of the room and the auctioneer says

895
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Speaker 2: there was a disputed bid. Some random guy apparently entering

896
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Speaker 2: the bidding for the first time seconds before the gavel

897
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Speaker 2: goes down, put his hand up, so the auctioneer opens

898
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Speaker 2: up bidding again, and the new guy says one point

899
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Speaker 2: four our man can't beat it, new guy gets the house.

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Speaker 2: How is that fair? Apparently in the Teas and Sees

901
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: there's a thing called disputed bids, and Bailey's, which was

902
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Speaker 2: running this shambles, says there were witnesses in the room

903
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Speaker 2: who saw the bidder's hand go up just in the

904
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Speaker 2: nick of time, even though the auctioneer didn't see it.

905
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Speaker 2: Upon further reading of this article, you realize that the

906
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Speaker 2: witness was in fact a Bailey's staff member. Does this

907
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Speaker 2: witness have a credibility problem? I think so. So there

908
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: you go another reason to hate real estate agents. Of course,

909
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 2: they're not all bad, and the very reason we hate

910
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: them when buying the same reason we love them when selling.

911
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: So I guess actually, at the end of the day,

912
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Speaker 2: what we really hate is ourselves human nature. Bryan Bridge

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Speaker 2: seven minutes after five Chris Hipkins, Afternoons.

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Speaker 11: Where.

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Speaker 1: Getting the facts? Discarding the fluff? It's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 1: hither do the Sea Allen dribe with one New Zealand

917
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Speaker 1: let's get connected.

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Speaker 11: News talks 'B. Just nice week, good evening.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty five away from six News TALKSB on

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Speaker 2: your Monday evening. So twenty eight year old woman's been

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Speaker 2: arrested today going to appear in court. Has appeared in court.

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Speaker 2: This is in pook Koe outside of supermarket, allegedly stole

923
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Speaker 2: a few items. So the police spokesperson has said that

924
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Speaker 2: Offers were conducting what they call a prevention patrol near

925
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Speaker 2: the supermarket, which just means a patrol and member of

926
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Speaker 2: the public. Good member of the public calls the police

927
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Speaker 2: and says, I've just seen a woman steal some stuff

928
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Speaker 2: from the supermarket. So the police find that match the description.

929
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Speaker 2: Found the woman walking down the road and then they

930
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Speaker 2: searched the bushes nearby and they find what she has stolen.

931
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Speaker 2: And it's quite an incredible haul. Sixty six blocks of

932
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Speaker 2: Whittaker's chocolate, ten tubs of Best Foods, Mayo, and thirteen

933
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Speaker 2: bottles of shampoo. What on earth would you fit that in?

934
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Speaker 2: It is a lot of goods. You'd need an awfully

935
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Speaker 2: big tote bag. Wouldn't you play in bread Rich twenty

936
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Speaker 2: four minutes away from six now a taxpayers Union cauri

937
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Speaker 2: a pole today. Wouldn't let the coalition parties form a

938
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Speaker 2: government With a sharp almost four percentage point jump and

939
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Speaker 2: support for the Greens. The left block of Parliament could

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Speaker 2: form a government with sixty one seats compared to fifty

941
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Speaker 2: nine on the other side of the House. Fifty percent

942
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Speaker 2: of the respondents and this is the part that will

943
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Speaker 2: worry the government say the country is moving in the

944
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Speaker 2: wrong direction. Just thirty four feel it's moving in the

945
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Speaker 2: right direction. The Labour leaders Chris Hipkins is with me

946
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Speaker 2: this evening. Good evening, Koday, Ryan, What do you put

947
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: this down to, because it's not you going up, it's

948
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Speaker 2: the Greens, right.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think the people can see that the country's

950
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 4: going in the wrong direction. Actually, Labor has been going

951
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 4: up in all of the recent polls that have been

952
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 4: released since Christmas. I'm encouraged by that, but we know

953
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Speaker 4: we've got a lot of work to do. You know,

954
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Speaker 4: we've still got a year and a half to go.

955
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Speaker 4: So polls at this point, you know, are interesting and

956
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 4: it's nice to be doing well in them, but you know,

957
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 4: I think we've still got a fair amount of water

958
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 4: to flow under the bridge.

959
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: Just yet. The Prime Minister is talking about a summit

960
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: to attract foreign investment into New Zealand. There's one hundred

961
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: big wigs coming here next month. Are you supporting that?

962
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: And do you support some of the fast track projects,

963
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: some of the roads of national significance, the infrastructure project

964
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Speaker 2: that they are going to be selling to these money

965
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Speaker 2: men and women to try and get growth out of

966
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Speaker 2: New Zealand foreign investment.

967
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Speaker 4: You know, we need to be strategic about the foreign

968
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Speaker 4: investment we want in New Zealand. So we want foreign

969
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 4: investment that helps our entrepreneurs to set up and grow

970
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 4: companies that are going to create jobs, create higher incomes

971
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Speaker 4: for New Zealanders. Similarly carving the country up and howking

972
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 4: it off to overseas investors who are more interested in

973
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Speaker 4: extracting a dividend.

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Speaker 2: Who's carving New Zealand up and hawking it off?

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Speaker 4: Well, if you look at them, if you look at

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00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 4: what the current government are talking about, they're saying ideally

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00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: they'd like to be able to sell them residential houses.

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Speaker 4: That's not going to make New Zealand richer as a.

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Speaker 2: Company ultimate but they're not doing it. So are you

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00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: against that they've announced.

981
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not sure that the visa changes are going

982
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 4: to make New Zealand a richer place.

983
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: New Zealand a richer place because you guys didn't.

984
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: So so if you look at it, there's there's a

985
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 4: bunch of stuff we need to do R and D,

986
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 4: research and development. We're well below the average in terms

987
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 4: of what we should be investing on research and development.

988
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: We need to increase our own savings in New Zealand

989
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 4: so we have more money to invest here in New Zealand.

990
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: We've already got some quite a lot of money. And

991
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 4: ken we Saver for example, it's being invested off because

992
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 4: those key we save funds can't find things to borrow.

993
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: A politicians since Moses was a linebacker, has said R

994
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: and D up the wazoo. What's happened?

995
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 11: You know?

996
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: I mean, at least have got it. At least these

997
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: guys have got a list of projects that they are

998
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: going out to the market and saying, here, invest in these.

999
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: I mean this is tangible stuff, isn't it.

1000
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 4: Well, if you mean investing in things like that, or

1001
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 4: it's basically bankrolling things like roads. Ultimately New Zealanders will

1002
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 4: probably pay more for their roads as a result of that,

1003
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 4: because the government can actually finance the roads cheaper if

1004
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 4: it did it through public Better than no private investment.

1005
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's better than no roads, which you gave us.

1006
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 4: Right, Well though, that's not true. Actually, we haven't invested

1007
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: in a number of road projects.

1008
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: Fewer roads.

1009
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 4: I invested in a number of roading projects.

1010
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Speaker 2: Don't come on here and tell me your pro road.

1011
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 9: Oh.

1012
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 4: I think you've got to have a balanced transport portfolio.

1013
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 4: You need to do both. You need to have roads,

1014
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: you need to have you do need to invest in

1015
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: rail and you do need to invest in transport.

1016
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, thank you very much for coming on show. Chris.

1017
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Speaker 2: Great to have you on as always. Chris Hipkins, labor

1018
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: leader on that taxpayer union Caurier poll. I mean, which

1019
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: is so's good for them? Isn't it good for the

1020
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: left block? It's just gone twenty minutes away.

1021
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Speaker 1: From six the Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty,

1022
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no other.

1023
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Speaker 2: Right joining the Huddle this afternoon. I'm delighted to have

1024
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 2: as we do every Monday. Tris Shearson from Sherston, willis

1025
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 2: pr good evening, and Josie Pigani from The Child Fun.

1026
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: Good evening to you. Hello, great to.

1027
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 4: Have you on.

1028
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: So is this good news for the left or is

1029
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 2: this so far from an election that doesn't even matter?

1030
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 21: Joci, It's a long way from election, and Chris Hopkins

1031
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 21: is right not to start counting his chickens. But I mean,

1032
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 21: you've got to look at what's actually happening. This isn't

1033
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 21: really a vote for labor. I'm not even sure it's

1034
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 21: a vote for the left block in any way. It's

1035
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 21: a sort of anti government block in my view. And

1036
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 21: I think what's happening is that people are not feeling

1037
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 21: better off. We're in a recession. We're just feeling like

1038
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 21: this nothing transformational or big that's going to change anything.

1039
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 21: We're just feeling like nothing is happening, and it feels

1040
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 21: like drift. And so I think you know, whoever can

1041
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 21: come up politically, you can come up with something that's transformational,

1042
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 21: some idea other than you look at Luxeon's idea for growth.

1043
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 21: A trade deal with UAE isn't going to get it.

1044
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 21: A bunch of concerts at the at Eden Park and

1045
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 21: more tourists isn't going to get it right.

1046
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 15: So where is the thing?

1047
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 21: And I think the investment idea is great, right, get

1048
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 21: investors over to come and look at investing in New Zealand.

1049
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 21: But we're still going to be selling milk.

1050
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: Powder and raw logs.

1051
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 21: So what are you going to do about that? And

1052
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 21: unfortunately a lot of it is R and d Ryan.

1053
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 21: I know it's a pain to say it, but yeah,

1054
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 21: but I.

1055
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: Mean it needs to happen. I guess the question is

1056
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: how is it going to happen? And you look at

1057
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: stuff that the Employees and Manufacturers Union talks about treasure

1058
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: with their faster depreciation on their machinery. I mean, that

1059
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 2: is the kind of stuff that we need to see

1060
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: happening here and hopefully we will in the budget. That's right.

1061
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 22: And I think that the right track wrong track poll

1062
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 22: here is critical for the government and it's that Kiwis

1063
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 22: are continuing to think we're on the wrong track. Is

1064
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 22: not great for a government that campaigned on getting New

1065
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 22: Zealand back on track. And that the tangible stuff for

1066
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 22: voters is that they are still way behind economically than

1067
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 22: they were a six or seven years ago. They are

1068
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 22: still facing very high mortgage rates and over the weekend,

1069
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 22: just think about this, a voters in Wellington we're told

1070
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 22: that their house prices have gone down twenty four percent.

1071
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 22: They are a long way behind. This second year in

1072
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 22: government is a dangerous year for the government because you

1073
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 22: can't blame the past lot. Anymore, you're being judged on

1074
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 22: your own performance. And in my view, what is missing

1075
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 22: from this government. There's a lot of there's a lot

1076
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 22: of good stuff happening, but to Josie's point, the bold

1077
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 22: stuff like are cutting the corporate tax rate, like potentially

1078
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 22: saying to New Zealand is pulsory super saving. So we've

1079
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 22: got a huge nest egg that we can invest in

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Speaker 22: things like being bold and brave and saying to the

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Speaker 22: electric look, we can't keep on funding superannuation when you

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Speaker 22: are sixty five. This is the kind of government in

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Speaker 22: a structural economic situation where we need those very big

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Speaker 22: things to happen. And if you're inviting foreign investment here,

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Speaker 22: they are looking for something extra if they're going to

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Speaker 22: take their dollars all the way from the US or

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Speaker 22: the UK down to New Zealand.

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Speaker 21: And I'll tell you what if Luxeon can't deliver something

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Speaker 21: this year, And you're right, the so called year of growth,

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Speaker 21: which at the moment looks like the year of organograms.

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Speaker 21: You know, they've done a restructure of the science and research.

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Speaker 21: That's where your R and D is, the science and

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Speaker 21: innovation and the stuff that's going to make the weird

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Speaker 21: stuff that makes us money, you know, the funny boat widgets,

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Speaker 21: and the security stuff and the you know whatever. That's

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Speaker 21: the stuff that makes us money. That and doing something

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Speaker 21: more with milk powder than just milk powder. If Luxelon

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Speaker 21: can't deliver something other than an organogram by the end

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Speaker 21: of next year, he will be He'll be gone by

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Speaker 21: Christmas and they will replace him because I think the

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Speaker 21: National Party, and I don't know what you're hearing, Trish,

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Speaker 21: but just they're starting to get really frustrated.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's just rest that. I think they would be

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Speaker 2: foolish to do anything quickly.

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Speaker 21: He better do something in the budget.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to do something in the budget. But

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Speaker 2: I think if you replace Chris Luxm with Nikola Willis,

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Speaker 2: you're still on a hiding to nothing. It's the economy

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Speaker 2: that's hurting people. It's the direction that's hurting people, and

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Speaker 2: people are feeling it. The thing is, when they come

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Speaker 2: to vote next year, they aren't going to go I

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Speaker 2: know what will save the day, Chris Hopkins and labor.

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Speaker 4: No, they're not.

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Speaker 22: What they're going to do is they're going to say,

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Speaker 22: do I feel better off? That's why the economy is important.

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Speaker 22: That's what we've seen from elections all around the world.

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Speaker 22: And I also think with this government, so they do

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Speaker 22: need to do some big stuff this year, or at

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Speaker 22: least signal it, because three years go so quickly in

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Speaker 22: New Zealand, And is by this budget already making some decisions.

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Speaker 22: But the other interesting thing that they really have to consider,

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Speaker 22: and this is a theme that's sort of building out there,

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Speaker 22: particularly amongst the business community, is there is still not

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Speaker 22: a feeling that there is a biggest strategy at place.

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Speaker 22: There's plan, there's a lot of things, and just saying growth, growth,

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Speaker 22: growth doesn't mean there's glad.

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Speaker 21: They have to come up with more than oh no,

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Speaker 21: we don't want investors buying New Zealand. It's like, no, no,

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Speaker 21: we want investment.

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Speaker 2: We want investment, all right. Joseph Bucghany and triciuson on

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Speaker 2: the huddle tonight back in a second the Huddle with.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevated the marketing of your home.

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Speaker 2: Twelve away from six News Talks. There'll be loads of

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Speaker 2: your texts coming in and I'll get to some of

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Speaker 2: them later on. Right now, Trish Shuston Shurson, Willis pr

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Speaker 2: Joseph BEGANI child fund with me on the huddle. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: So Matthew Howton in the Herald this afternoon said Mark Brown,

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister has gone to China to assigned some

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Speaker 2: kind of deal. We don't know what it is. Therefore

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Speaker 2: we should invade the cos Yeah. Well it's great, isn't it.

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Speaker 22: Houghton's always the provocateur and it's it's very Trumpian. But

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Speaker 22: the difference here between you know, Trump wants to invade Greenland.

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Speaker 22: New Zealand actually has a constitutional deal with the Cook Islands.

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Speaker 22: They are part of the realm of New Zealand. I

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Speaker 22: think the wake up call here for our government is

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Speaker 22: that actually this is all part of the traditional power

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Speaker 22: base in the Pacific slipping away. It's a it's a

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Speaker 22: sign of what is happening globally where countries are forming

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Speaker 22: up between between sort of China and Russia and that

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Speaker 22: block all between you know, our traditional allies, the US

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Speaker 22: and the UK. And I'm gonna sort of match Houghton's

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Speaker 22: provocation here. I think this No, well, I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 22: not invading anyone, although there have been times today where

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Speaker 22: I've wanted to launch various invasions, but on various matters.

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Speaker 22: But I actually think that the Cook that New Zealand

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Speaker 22: has more to lose in this than the Cook Islands.

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Speaker 22: I think that the Chinese will roll in and they

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Speaker 22: will offer any funding your life totally.

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Speaker 2: And if as somebody takes an earlier why don't we

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Speaker 2: go trump on them and take their money away. Well,

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Speaker 2: China will roll in. So the first thing we've got

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Speaker 2: to realize is that.

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Speaker 21: And you know, look, we work in the Pacific. NTIL

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Speaker 21: fund a lot of AID charities, most a charities in

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Speaker 21: New Zealand do. The Pacific is not our backyard, it's

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Speaker 21: not our property. Yes, we have a constitutional arrangement with them,

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Speaker 21: a bit like Denmark has with Greenland. But they are

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Speaker 21: an independent country and if we could get a better

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Speaker 21: deal with China, we would take it right Mark Brown,

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Speaker 21: the Prime Minister who I've met, and he said after

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Speaker 21: COVID business as usual for AID. The Pacific does not

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Speaker 21: want to be dependent on AID for the rest of

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Speaker 21: its existence. It wants to find ways to grow its

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Speaker 21: way out of poverty and be independent.

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Speaker 2: So it's got to be a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Well, let's help them.

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Speaker 21: Help them it's China because it's problem. It is a problem.

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Speaker 21: But don't tell them who they can and can't take that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't wag your finger in their face, can you.

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Speaker 2: It's no one likes that's bad.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to real estate agents. Put your hand up

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Speaker 2: if you like them. Obviously you can't see any hands,

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Speaker 2: but there are no hands in that. I don't mind

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Speaker 2: real estate agents.

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Speaker 11: I do not.

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Speaker 21: I hate auctions and I hate tenders. Tell me how

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Speaker 21: much the house you want for the house, and I'll

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Speaker 21: workout if I can pay for it. Do not make

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Speaker 21: me guess.

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Speaker 23: I hate it.

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Speaker 2: But it's almost just the manifestation of the worst part

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Speaker 2: of us, isn't it, which is that when you're selling something,

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Speaker 2: you want the highest possible price, and then when you're

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Speaker 2: buying something you want the lowest possible price.

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Speaker 22: And it's a terrible it's a terrible emotional pressure cocker.

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Speaker 22: That is the psychological device of an auction. I have

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Speaker 22: never been to one, but my husband when he bought

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Speaker 22: our family home I was working. He took our three

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Speaker 22: year old son. This is many years ago, and unfortunately,

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Speaker 22: the point where the auction was going up in sort

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Speaker 22: of one dollar increments. My three year old son kept

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Speaker 22: put up his hand and the auction. He kept saying,

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Speaker 22: I'm sorry, sir, I don't think you're good for it,

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Speaker 22: and it really was a helpful situation.

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Speaker 2: They're awful, Yeah, no, horrible things, horrible things. Anyway, we

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Speaker 2: were talking about that because there's an auction that kind

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Speaker 2: of went a bit of rye in Green Height and Auckland,

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Speaker 2: but honestly that's not worth getting into. It's just gone

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Speaker 2: nine minutes away from six. If you're bored over it,

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Speaker 2: Tricius and Chius and Mellispia and Joseph Pagani child Fun,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for being on the huddle this evening.

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Speaker 2: Lots more to come here on News Talks. Have been

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Speaker 2: including your texts. They've been steaming in over the last

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Speaker 2: few minutes. It's eight to six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather dupers Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks EBB.

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Speaker 2: You're on news Talks eb six away from six. This

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Speaker 2: one from Colin says, why is Peters and Luxon so

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Speaker 2: upset that Mark Brown, the leader of a sovereign country,

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Speaker 2: is upset when they do not disclose their discussions on

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Speaker 2: the foreign policy matters they have with China. The issue

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Speaker 2: is that we have an agreement with the Cook Islands

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Speaker 2: whereby they have to discuss with us anything that they

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Speaker 2: discuss with other people. These are the Foreign Affairs and

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Speaker 2: Defense and they haven't shown us what's in their agreement

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Speaker 2: before they've gone to sign it. So that's the problem

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Speaker 2: that we have and the problem that Winston Peters is

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Speaker 2: trying to fix. Speaking of Winston Peters, so and this

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Speaker 2: annoyed me last week as well. But the New Zealand

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Speaker 2: First Party have got a bill that they want to

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Speaker 2: use to fight the quote woke banks. So they've introduced

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Speaker 2: a member's bill aimed at preventing the banks from refusing

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Speaker 2: their services to businesses because of the Environmental Social Governments

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Speaker 2: Framework whatever it is. So it's called the Financial Market's

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Speaker 2: Amendment Bill. It would mean that no New Zealand business

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Speaker 2: can be denied banking services unless the decision is grounded

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Speaker 2: in law. Now I don't agree with that putting regulations

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Speaker 2: on banks won't make them perform better. Strangling banks in

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Speaker 2: red tape won't encourage more service provision. They should be

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Speaker 2: free to serve or to not serve any customer on

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Speaker 2: their financial merits. I mean, if you said to a bank, oh,

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Speaker 2: you have deal into this person. You have dealing with

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Speaker 2: that person, regardless of whether it made any financial sense,

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Speaker 2: you would within quick order corrupt and probably bankrupt the

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Speaker 2: banking industry, wouldn't you. It's a member's bill anyway, it's

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Speaker 2: probably going nowhere. We'll ask Nichola Willis about it when

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Speaker 2: she comes on the show after six o'clock. We'll also

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Speaker 2: ask her about the poll too. I found this headline

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Speaker 2: funny today. Colombian president says cocaine no worse than whiskey

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Speaker 2: because he's obviously trying to get you know, this is

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Speaker 2: what they do, this is what they make. It's their

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Speaker 2: big export, right. So he's saying, if you really want

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Speaker 2: to do away with all of the nasty ills of

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Speaker 2: the world, like you know, murders and hostage takings and

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Speaker 2: all the bad stuff that comes with illegal narcotics, then

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Speaker 2: all you need to do is the irony is He's right,

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Speaker 2: he actually has a point, but yeah, that's a great headline.

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Speaker 2: Columbian president says cocaine no worse than whiskey. Talk about

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Speaker 2: Trump's tariff after six and Nichola Willis.

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Speaker 7: With us lives.

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Speaker 9: D the.

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Speaker 7: Ducking, the Weeper.

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Speaker 1: Where business meets inside the Business hour with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: and Mess Insurance and Investments'll your wealth, Protect your Future?

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Speaker 2: News Talks MB. Good evening, It has just gone seven

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Speaker 2: after six News Talks MB. This is the business our.

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Speaker 2: Shane Soley joining us shortly from Harbor Asset Management on

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Speaker 2: Trump's tariffs for steel and aluminium? What will that mean

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Speaker 2: for us? Gavin Gray out of the UK. Another labor

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Speaker 2: minister's been sacked there and we'll look at the banks

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Speaker 2: taking too long to approve lending applications. Here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: The numbers from the latest poll. So earlier we had

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Speaker 2: the taxpayers in your curier pole. Now we have had

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Speaker 2: the one News varium poll. This this is the gist.

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Speaker 2: It basically backed up the curier pole. The left block

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Speaker 2: would have the numbers to govern if an election were

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Speaker 2: held tomorrow. National down three to thirty four, Labour up

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Speaker 2: four to thirty three, so at one point gap Green

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Speaker 2: Steady on ten, Act up one to nine to Party

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Speaker 2: Mardi down three to four. New Zealand First on five

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Speaker 2: down one ThReD PM Well Luxton's back preferred Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: Chris to for lux and twenty two down to Chris

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Speaker 2: Hopkins up two on to seventeen joining us this evening.

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Speaker 2: Nicola willis the Finance Minister and Minister for Economic Growth.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Good evening RN. How do you feel about

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Speaker 2: those numbers?

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Speaker 24: Well, you know, poles move around. Even between those two

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Speaker 24: polls that you've read out the text pers Union one

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Speaker 24: and the tvnz'd one, there are differences in the numbers.

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Speaker 24: One we're up, one we're down. Look over all, the

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Speaker 24: message that I'm hearing very loudly from New Zealanders as

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Speaker 24: they've been through a tough time economically and they really

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Speaker 24: want to see us focused on making them and their

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Speaker 24: family feel more financially secure. And that's exactly what we're

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Speaker 24: doing and that's what we should be focused on.

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Speaker 2: Is your leader getting the tone right when he says

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Speaker 2: the plan is starting to work but people are still hurting.

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Speaker 24: Well, people are hurting, there's no question.

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Speaker 2: So is he getting the tone right? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 24: Well, I don't quite know what you mean by that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll give you an example like when when

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Speaker 2: Jacinda Aderne refuse to say there was a cost of

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Speaker 2: living crisis despite the fact everybody was feeling it hard

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Speaker 2: in the pocket. And then we've got your leader who

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Speaker 2: comes out and says the plan is starting to work,

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Speaker 2: We're starting to get back on track. But actually, for

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Speaker 2: most people, things are still really expensive. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people haven't had a pay rise and they probably feel

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Speaker 2: like it's a little the message might be a little

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Speaker 2: out of touch. Can you see that angle?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 24: Look, of course, And I don't think the Prime Minister

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Speaker 24: would disagree with anything you've just said. I mean, we

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Speaker 24: see it in our communities every day. There is no

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Speaker 24: doubt there are families across the country who went through

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Speaker 24: a massive cost of living crisis are still struggling to

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Speaker 24: keep up with prices. There are people who have lost

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Speaker 24: hours of work, who have lost jobs. There are a

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Speaker 24: lot of people who are really struggling because of a

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Speaker 24: downturning economy. So the question isn't is it tough? It

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Speaker 24: is tough, there is no doubt. The question is what

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Speaker 24: should we do about it? And what we're doing is

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Speaker 24: we're making sure that we're keeping in inflation back under control,

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Speaker 24: that we've got interest rates coming down, and that we're

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Speaker 24: driving for the underlying growth that's needed to create more

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Speaker 24: job opportunities and ensure New Zealanders can get paid more

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Speaker 24: and can keep up with the cost of living. That's

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Speaker 24: what we should be doing. And I know everyone would

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Speaker 24: like it to be an overnight success. So I get

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Speaker 24: that because people have been through many years of hardship

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Speaker 24: in some cases. But what we're doing as a government

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Speaker 24: is doing the things we can do every day to

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Speaker 24: make a difference, and we've just got to keep doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's tough. Even though I was talking

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Speaker 2: to a friend in Wellington at the weekend. They're, you know,

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent of their property value, their biggest asset

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Speaker 2: wiped off, and their rates going up fifteen percent. It's

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Speaker 2: it's pretty rough, you know.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, it's really rough. And you know, in Wellington we've

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Speaker 24: had the combination of a council that's been really distracted

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Speaker 24: from the issues that.

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Speaker 4: People care about.

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Speaker 24: I get it in the air all the time people

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Speaker 24: WELLINGTONI and said, I mean, why are they taking away

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Speaker 24: car parks and building more cycle ways when we've got

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Speaker 24: leaking pipes and rising rates bills? Those are fair questions

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Speaker 24: to ask, and I think similarly people are looking at

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Speaker 24: the government and saying, I want to know that you're

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Speaker 24: focused on me and my family, how much i can

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Speaker 24: earn in my paypacket, that I'll have job security, that

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Speaker 24: I'll have savings for my future, that my kids can

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Speaker 24: afford a home. I want all of those things too.

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Speaker 4: Run.

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Speaker 24: And so the question is do we keeck up the

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Speaker 24: old approach of the government which decided the way to

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Speaker 24: deal with it was to borrow more, spend more, throw

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Speaker 24: money at ever increasing bureaucracies, or do we get on

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Speaker 24: with growing the real economy and backing employers, firms, innovators

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Speaker 24: to grow.

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Speaker 2: And that's our approach, and let's talk about that. The

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Speaker 2: Foreign Investors summit that's happening. We spoken to Chris Bishop

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Speaker 2: about it so across the details of it. But will

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Speaker 2: there be actual announcements from this or will it be

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Speaker 2: this is you know, this is who we are and

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Speaker 2: what we're about, and we hope you might go away

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Speaker 2: and make a decision later, or will it be like

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Speaker 2: the one in the UK where they came out and

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Speaker 2: they said, all right, we've actually got some deals ready

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Speaker 2: to sign.

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Speaker 24: Well, the goal is to present to a range of

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Speaker 24: international investors opportunities for investment in New Zealand, both in

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Speaker 24: terms of growing parts of our economy, whether that's aquaculture

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Speaker 24: or the space industry or agriculture, but also in terms

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Speaker 24: of significant infrastructure plans that our government has underway. It

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Speaker 24: would be pretty weird if a deal was signed in

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Speaker 24: the room, because you'd want the government to be doing

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Speaker 24: are much clearer negotiation than that. But what we're hoping

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Speaker 24: is that it leads to relationships that then lead to

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Speaker 24: deals in due course.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Winston's warming up to the foreign buyers

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Speaker 2: homes buying things?

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Speaker 24: Well, well, I heard his comments on Mike Hosking's show

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Speaker 24: the other day, and I think he's demonstrated he's an

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Speaker 24: open minded chap and as I think I've said to

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Speaker 24: you before, he seems interested in what's good for New

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Speaker 24: Zealand and New Zealanders, and on that score, it's my

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Speaker 24: view that allowing more people to buy homes here when

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Speaker 24: they are contributing to the New Zealand economy is a

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Speaker 24: good idea. Those conversations will continue.

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Speaker 2: So they're still ongoing. You still kind of bad room

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Speaker 2: every now and then.

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Speaker 24: Every now and then, well, as you know, Ryan, we've

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Speaker 24: got a very full agenda of government programs and the

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Speaker 24: Minister of Foreign a few years has many things on

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Speaker 24: his plate, so look, we do lots of things at

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Speaker 24: one time.

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Speaker 2: Do we need to keep giving sixty million a year

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Speaker 2: to the.

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Speaker 24: Cooks Well, we have a really important relationship with the

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Speaker 24: Cook Islands. It's an incredibly close relationship and that that

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Speaker 24: funding reflects a long standing support that we offer to

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Speaker 24: the Cook Islands people, and I haven't heard any questions

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Speaker 24: about that funding being in jeopardy at this stage.

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Speaker 2: The US tariffs trumps signal twenty five percent on steel

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Speaker 2: and aluminium. Ozzy's sorry, very worried about that, as you

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Speaker 2: can imagine how big an impact could it have on

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Speaker 2: us and are we trying to get out of it.

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Speaker 24: Well, look, we've taken note of the announcement, but we

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Speaker 24: actually need to see the specifics four week and comment

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Speaker 24: on in detail about what it means for New Zealand, because,

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Speaker 24: as you know, our steel and aliminium exports to the

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Speaker 24: US already face a US tariff. We were one of

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Speaker 24: the countries who didn't get off the hook last time

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Speaker 24: during the last Trump administration. So we don't know yet

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Speaker 24: if the announcement will actually change anything for our New

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Speaker 24: Zealand exporters. Our steel exporters have continued to export into

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Speaker 24: the United States, as have our exporters, despite the tariffs

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Speaker 24: that were put on them previously.

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Speaker 2: But these tarifs will obviously go on top of the

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Speaker 2: previous ones.

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Speaker 24: Right, well, the details aren't yet clear Ryan, exactly what

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Speaker 24: the arrangements will be. What we have at the moment

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Speaker 24: is a twenty five percent tariff on our steel and

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Speaker 24: ten percent on aluminum, So it's yet to be seen

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Speaker 24: what the details are for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Will you be fighting for an exemption?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 24: Look, we will always put the interests of our exporters

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Speaker 24: first and that means minimizing the tariffs that they face,

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Speaker 24: and so our diplomats will be working extremely hard behind

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Speaker 24: the scenes to put New Zealand's case forward.

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Speaker 2: Will you look at the superage at the next election.

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Speaker 24: Oh look, that's not a discussion we've had as a

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Speaker 24: National Party caucus.

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Speaker 9: Yet.

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Speaker 24: I've gone on the record though saying look, I'm a

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Speaker 24: mother of four kids and I want to be honest

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Speaker 24: and look them in the eye, and I want to

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Speaker 24: be able to say that we're going to keep New

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Speaker 24: Zealand's superannuation sustainable into the future. And when you look

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Speaker 24: at the greatest chair of spending that it's going to

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Speaker 24: take up over time, and the diminishing number of young

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Speaker 24: people who will be paying tax to support it. It

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Speaker 24: seems to me that there will come another time for

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Speaker 24: a conversation about the age of eligibility. But as I say,

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Speaker 24: we don't have a national party position on that right now.

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Speaker 24: But I think it's one of those ones where politicians

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Speaker 24: should be honest. If they are saying that we're going

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Speaker 24: to keep everything exactly the same, they then have an

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Speaker 24: obligation to explain why young New Zealanders will need to

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Speaker 24: be paying a shiver's load more tax to support that.

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Speaker 2: Is it something that you're in the Prime Minister's oken about.

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Speaker 24: No, we haven't, actually, Minister.

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Speaker 2: I thank you very much for your time. I'm great

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Speaker 2: to have you on a Monday evening. As always, we'll

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Speaker 2: is with me, Shane. Good evening. We're going to look

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Speaker 2: at the markets, Shane. But first Trump and the tariffs.

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Speaker 2: We don't have the details yet, but we've got an

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Speaker 2: outline of some steel and aluminium tariffs from the White House.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's pack riling up market. It's getting us excited.

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Speaker 6: So over the weekend he's had dropped a few interesting announcements.

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Speaker 6: He's talking about more reciprocable tariffs against people that push

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Speaker 6: back and who's tariffs. He's announced going on ounce apparently

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Speaker 6: tomorrow a twenty five percent tariff on steel and aluminium.

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Speaker 6: And he's also talking about having other cracad Our friends

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Speaker 6: in Canada and potentially a Mexico. So that's that's got

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Speaker 6: people a little bit excited.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how the market's reacting.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, US market was a bit soft on Friday night.

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Speaker 6: There was some strong data that suggested the US fit

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Speaker 6: A reserve is not going to be cutting rates in

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Speaker 6: a hurry, but there was a little bit of an

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Speaker 6: anticipation of these reciprocal tariffs. So we did see the

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Speaker 6: US long term bond years up, the US dollar up,

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Speaker 6: and the US shear market down. So locally though, today

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Speaker 6: you know what we've seen is the US dollar New

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Speaker 6: Zealand dollar cross rate to fifty six and a half

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Speaker 6: cents aluminium. You know, we do explod a little bit

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Speaker 6: of aliminium to the States, about two percent of New

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01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 6: Zealand's exports, so not a big ee, but you know

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01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 6: there is potential that that global ramifications disrupt and our

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01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 6: market here in New Zealand slightly down today official pipal

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01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 6: again leading things down a little bit. It is fifteen

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Speaker 6: percent of the market, plut more more than fifteen percent.

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01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 6: It was down zero point four percent on the basis

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 6: that these Mexican tariffs are back on the list of

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01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 6: things to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Certainly sounds like it, doesn't it. We know retails had

1515
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 2: a hard time, but Jabe High Fight just reported a

1516
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 2: very strong performance.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, interesting one, right, and so that you came out

1518
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 6: and they were their numbers for this particularly for January.

1519
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 6: This thing there sales growth up twenty percent for January,

1520
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 6: which is ten percent higher than expected. And I think

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01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 6: this is sort of people trying to say this is

1522
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 6: an indication and New Zealand economy is showing us sign

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01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 6: of bottoming. And we saw companies like such a building

1524
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 6: and sparking Zione which is the old telecom news one

1525
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 6: have a little bit of a pop on the back

1526
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 6: of that that people thought New Zion was bouncing. The

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01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 6: question we'd raised is you know, is it New Zealand

1528
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 6: consumers spending more or is it jbhih fight just taking

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01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 6: sher off other retailers. You know, technology is sort of

1530
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 6: thing people want to put their marginal money into. So

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01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 6: it's a tough one to make a quarter stage.

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01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 2: Plus they had some great sales over summer. Did hey

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01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: the bean z ed Economics team was out today calling

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01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: for the rbn Z to cut the official cash right

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01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: half percent next week. How does that compare with what

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01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 2: the market is pricing in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look really good, point Ryan. The So they've come

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01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 6: out as the beings of team pretty well regard. They've

1539
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 6: come out and said our beings due to cut, should

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01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 6: cut rates by half a percent next week. They've got

1541
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 6: their monatory policy statement, it's a quarterly announcement and that

1542
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 6: would take it to three point seventy five percent. And

1543
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 6: the beings of the team have gone a little bit

1544
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 6: further and said, look, we expect more rates to be

1545
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 6: signaled at that time and at a bit of a

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01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 6: quicker pace, and perhaps what we was talking about in November,

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01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 6: which is the last monetary policy statement, and they're saying

1548
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 6: we could actually see their visual cash rap back to

1549
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 6: three percent. When we look at what capital markets are saying,

1550
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 6: definitely there's zero point five or half a percent cut

1551
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 6: that's been sort of factored in. The markets agree the

1552
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 6: economy is weak enough and inflation is low enough to

1553
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 6: support lower rates. But you know, we will see markets

1554
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 6: react to the tone the words around the cut if

1555
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 6: indeed there is a cut, of course, but yeah, there

1556
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 6: is still a little way to go, but the directions

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01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 6: pretty much down.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Shane, thank you for that interesting stuff. Shane solely

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01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 2: harbor Asset Managed. On a Monday evening, twenty three minutes

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Speaker 2: after six, you're on News Talks EDB.

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01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: Approaching the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan Bridge

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01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: with the Business Hour and Mass Insurance and Investments Crew,

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01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: Your Wealth, Protect Your Future the News Talks v six

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01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: twenty six on News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: This text from one of our listeners, Ryan, I'm a

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01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: national voter and I'm getting sick of the same answer

1567
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: to every question. Where we had Nikola Willis on the show,

1568
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 2: we had Chris Sipkins we had David Steama, we had

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01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 2: half the have Cabinet on the show afternoon. I'm getting

1570
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 2: sick of the same answer to every question. We are

1571
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,560
Speaker 2: either looking at or opened to looking at it. What

1572
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: are they actually doing instead of looking you were speaking

1573
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: my language. It's something that's annoyed me. And it's not

1574
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: just it's not national, it's labe. I mean just it's

1575
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: politicians speak because they can't say anything until they have

1576
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 2: something that they can back up and defend. That's the problem.

1577
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 2: So they can't just go around saying, oh, we might

1578
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 2: do this, we might do that, because then you look

1579
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 2: a bit nath and silly. So that's why they do that.

1580
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 2: Another says here Ryan Great last question. The answer has

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01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 2: left me a bit stunned. The Prime Minister and the

1582
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 2: Finance Minister have not had a conversation about national superannuation

1583
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,560
Speaker 2: that is either BS or total incompetence, says Grant. I

1584
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 2: think what they will say is actually we haven't had

1585
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: a conversation about raising the age of super as opposed

1586
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: to have we had a conversation about how expensive the

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01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: superannuation scheme is. More genuinely, just before seven, we're going

1588
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: to talk to Gavin Gray out of the UK. Actually

1589
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 2: really interesting story for time. Probably not. It's very quick.

1590
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 2: The go on ticket Master buy some tickets to the

1591
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 2: Oasis concert, which everyone wants to go to. There's only

1592
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: going to be a couple of them. People went on there,

1593
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: bought their tickets, they've celebrated, bought their flights, their hotels, everything.

1594
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 2: Ticketmaster emails them says we're canceling your tickets because you're

1595
01:22:56,360 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 2: a robot. Outrageous right, and no ref fund for your

1596
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 2: planes or your hotels, just you know, just broke and

1597
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 2: not going to Oasis. It's twenty eight after six.

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01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro microbe or just plain economics, it's all

1599
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and theirs. Insurance

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01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: and investments, Grow your wealth, protect your future.

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01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: These talks d be, are you.

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01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 7: Having my y to have about you? There? Away to

1603
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 7: a little bit of peak, some club to keep good.

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01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 2: Twenty four minutes away from seven year on news Talk

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01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: said the asteroid we spoke about last week that's hitting well,

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01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 2: I say, heading to Earth. It's got to had a

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01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: one point two percent chance of hitting Earth. Now it

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01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 2: has a two point two percent chance of hitting Earth

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01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 2: in twenty thirty two, So it's a were way off.

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01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm know how you calculate whether it's going to hit

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01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 2: Earth or not? How you get to that percentage? Also,

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: it's ninety meters long apparently, how much will that burn

1613
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: up before it hits the earth? How much of Earth

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01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: will be destroyed when this thing comes our way? All

1615
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: of these questions I have, we might have to actually

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01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: get someone. I'm gonna have to get a scientist on

1617
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 2: so we can actually answer these questions at some point.

1618
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 2: But they are fascinating questions. And also, I guess would

1619
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: you want to know? Would you really want to know

1620
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 2: if the Earth was going to suddenly end and all

1621
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 2: living people and animals and flora and fauna on it

1622
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: wiped out in an instant? Would you rather it just

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01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: happened and you never knew? Anyway, there's a thought. It's

1624
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 2: twenty three to two seven and bridge borrowers are experiencing

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01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: delays of up to five weeks as banks work to

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01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 2: clear a backlog of lending requests. The process typically takes

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01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 2: just five days, but an influx of applications when interest

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01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 2: rates dropped last year has created apparently a large backlog.

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01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 2: Advisor at loan market Michelle, I among it is with

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01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 2: us and she's here this evening. Good evening, Hi, Hell

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01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 2: are you good?

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01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 4: Thanks?

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01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 2: Michelle? Is this usual? Is this normal? When interest rates

1634
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 2: drop we start to see backlogs at the banks.

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01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 25: Definitely common when interest rates start to decrease. Of course,

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01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 25: we saw the OCR drop right before Christmas, so that's

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01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 25: usually a crunch time regardless. But yeah, it was definitely

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01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 25: a large backlog, but the banks have managed to clear

1639
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 25: all those. We are seeing now the standard fire working

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01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 25: days for applications, which is great.

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01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: Oh that's good. Was it maybe just a Christmas thing

1642
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 2: because I imagine a lot of people want to get

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01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: their ducks in order before Christmas? Do you know, do

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01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: you typically see an increase in applications then.

1645
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 25: Too, Yeah, definitely. Of course the OCR decreases absolutely accelerated that,

1646
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 25: so you know, everyone was wanting to do something prior

1647
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 25: to Christmas and also kind of you know, tack the

1648
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 25: box in terms of achieving that goal before the year ended.

1649
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 25: But there's a mix of things that caused such a

1650
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 25: large backlog before Christmas, and I think the main thing

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01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 25: would be, obviously, as I said, the OCR change, but

1652
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 25: as well as a change in the regulations in terms

1653
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 25: of now we need to provide so much more information

1654
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 25: to the banks and applications. So the biggest backlog is

1655
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 25: actually the reworked que within the banks, So those applications

1656
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 25: that haven't been submitted correctly, or there's information missing, or

1657
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 25: they're just more complex applications. That of course causes a

1658
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 25: lot of delay when we needed to go back to

1659
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,560
Speaker 25: the clients or the banks needing more information. And so

1660
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 25: I think that that's the biggest cause that we saw

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01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 25: last year.

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01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 2: Which banks are the quickest, good question.

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01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 25: It really depends on the type of application we see.

1664
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 25: Most banks be very transistent at the moment. As I said,

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01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 25: with our clients, we're estimating between five to seven working days,

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01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 25: so they're all very equal at the moment, which.

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01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 8: Is really good.

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01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 2: But typically is this is there a bank, Oh I

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01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: don't want to go through ASB they take ages?

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01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 25: Oh no, god, not at all. It's as I said,

1671
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 25: we advise. Banks are based on what the client's doing.

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01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 25: So some banks specialize for first on buyers, you know,

1673
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 25: some banks are great for business leaning. So it really depends,

1674
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 25: and that's why a lot of people work with more

1675
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 25: good advisors to get that talent advice. It's going to

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01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 25: really suit what they're doing.

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01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: Michelle, thank you very much for that. Good to know

1678
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: that it's all back in order now. Michelle Eismonger with us.

1679
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 2: She's the loan market advice that just gone. Twenty to

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01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: seven on News Talks, the B nine nine is number

1681
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 2: to tech, Someone says, Ryan, get Bruce Willis into that

1682
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: space shuttle to stop the asteroid coming to New Zealand

1683
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: coming to Earth. I think they are. There is talk

1684
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 2: of potentially being able to interrupt intercept should this thing

1685
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: actually get too close to us. I don't quite know how,

1686
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: but you know, some he will have some idea. I

1687
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: don't think it will involve Bruce Willis, though. Twenty seven

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Speaker 2: News Talks.

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01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: V everything from SMS to the big corporates, The Business

1690
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 1: Hour with Ryan Bridge and Clare's Insurance and Investments, Grew

1691
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: Your Wealth, Protect Your Future News Talks edb.

1692
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 2: Lots of text on News Talks ab about the asteroid. Hi, Ryan, Yes,

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01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: I would totally want to know if the world was

1694
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: going to end, so I could indulge in eating chocolate

1695
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: and copious amounts of red wine and whatever bad living

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01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,560
Speaker 2: I could get through, says Alex. This is about the

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01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: asteroid that has a two point two percent chance now

1698
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 2: of hitting Earth, as opposed to a one point one

1699
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 2: percent chance that it had two weeks ago. Ryan the

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01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 2: Last Policeman by Ben H Winters is a brilliant book

1701
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: about this very subject. Have you heard of that book?

1702
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 2: I have not, and I will put it on my list,

1703
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 2: Thank you. JC. It is sixteen minutes away from seven

1704
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge. We're going to get to Gavin Gray shortly.

1705
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 2: He is our UK correspondent and he is with us now.

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01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: Gavin good evening. Tell me UK border staff have arrested

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01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 2: nearly four thousand migrants what for.

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01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 23: Well working illegally in the UK. And those four thousand

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01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 23: have been arrested just in the last seven months, so

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01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 23: quite an astonishing figure. With four hundred businesses have been raided,

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01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:25,440
Speaker 23: a lot of activity in nail bars, car washes and takeaways.

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01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 23: Ran I can tell you now it wouldn't have taken

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01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,759
Speaker 23: a genius to work out that those three particular sectors

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01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 23: probably have quite a high level of illegal workers. I

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01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 23: mean whenever I passed them, you know, you just see

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Speaker 23: them and you think it looks like no documentation, and

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01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 23: I think it's all cash in hand stuff, so perhaps

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01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 23: that's no surprise they were targeted. In total, three nine

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01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 23: hundred and thirty were taken, and many of those we're

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01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,600
Speaker 23: told were on small boats or small boat migrants that

1721
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 23: had come over to the UK illegally or those who

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01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 23: had overstayed visas. And of course this cash in hand culture,

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01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 23: living often in squalid conditions in large groups together is

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01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 23: you know, really awful for them, but aw for our

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01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 23: economy and society frankly. So it's going to be interesting

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01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 23: what happens though, because the firms that hire these illegal

1727
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 23: workers can be fined up to one hundred and thirty

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01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 23: thousand New Zealand dollars per worker, and indeed there have

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01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 23: been some one thousand and ninety civil penalty notices since

1730
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 23: last July. July that word is important because that's when

1731
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 23: the new government came in and you know that said

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01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 23: they were going to get tough on immigration. Now the

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01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 23: figures coming in still are still very high, but at

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01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 23: least this does suggest something's being done about it. It

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01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 23: comes as MP's debate the border bills today that will

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01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 23: give immigration officers counter terror style powers to flush out traffickers.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, is this the result of

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01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 2: some crekdown or is it just an an annual number

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01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 2: that they're releasing and updating. It sounds like what It

1740
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 2: sounds like a bit of both. I suppose it is

1741
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 2: that more. Are they targeting and getting to more then previously?

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Speaker 23: Yes, they are. The figures You're right, it is the

1743
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:14,560
Speaker 23: release of some figures early, no doubt, to boost the

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01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 23: government's reputation. But the figures are definitely considerably up. And

1745
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 23: then of course that makes the question, well, what were

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01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 23: the last lot doing in power when you know, even

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01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:29,600
Speaker 23: I could spot that these industries could have done with

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01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 23: that that. Of course, there are no ID cards here

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01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 23: in the UK, so it's not straightforward if they do

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01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 23: turn up unannounced. You know, people are perfectly entitled to say, well,

1751
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 23: I haven't got any idea on me actually, so you

1752
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 23: know what do you want? And that's been part of

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01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 23: the problem in the past. But yes, numbers definitely up.

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01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 2: Another laboring p apologizing for comments made in a whatsep group.

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Speaker 23: Yes, and one begins to wonder just how far the

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01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 23: tentacles of this WhatsApp group are stretching. So it's a

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01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 23: newspaper here that has managed to find a WhatsApp group

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01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 23: where a string of offensive and abusive messages were shared.

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01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 23: Now it appears that many of those on the WhatsApp

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01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 23: group are in the Labor Party, the current party of government,

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01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 23: and their MPs and other senior figures. It's reported already

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01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,560
Speaker 23: one has been sacked as Health Minister, and now we

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01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 23: learn of a second Labor MP who has apologized over message,

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01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 23: saying and I quote that they were completely unacceptable and

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01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 23: he regretted not speaking out at the time. He's the

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01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 23: Burnley MP, Oliver Ryan. He follows the Health Minister Andrew Gwynn,

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01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 23: but it's Andrew Gwinn who had to step down as

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01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 23: a minister. Opposition MPs are saying, look, the comments are

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01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 23: so well, first of all, they are very ageist, having

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01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 23: a laugh at elderly people. They're actually quite homophobic. There's

1771
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 23: talk about although I haven't seen that the relevant once.

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01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 23: They's talk about others yet to be released which are

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01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 23: quite potentially quite racist. So you know, I'm afraid it's

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01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 23: a real mix. And for this to be a WhatsApp

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01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 23: group potentially of MPs of the Party of Government is

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01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 23: obviously deeply damaging and the opposition MPs and now saying

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01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 23: all these people need to be rooted out and sacked

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01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 23: and nothing else will do.

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Speaker 2: And do we know exactly Obviously you're making a decision.

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01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm assuming not to say what the what the details are,

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01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 2: but do we know exactly what is in the group

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01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 2: or are we just getting reporting that it's really bad?

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Speaker 23: No, we do know. I am kind of just sparing

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01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 23: because I think people will be quite offended by some

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01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 23: of it. But for instance, it is talking about how

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01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 23: the first time a black MP faced off the Prime

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01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 23: Minister at Prime Minister's Questions times there was a whole

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01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 23: loaded debate about that, including one saying, well, it's some

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01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 23: Equal Opportunities Day or some such thing. I've toned it down,

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01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 23: but you know it really is. It's just sneery stuff

1791
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 23: like that.

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Speaker 2: From the Labor Party. Goodness me, all right? A real

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01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 2: first edition of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Sit

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01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 2: to be Thrown Away has been sold at auction.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, isn't that amazing? And it's something that belonged to

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01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 23: a gentleman. It was deceased and it was in a

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01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 23: pile of stuff to be thrown from his home and

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01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 23: where you can imagine the delight of an auctioneer who

1799
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 23: was going through the belongings of this man to then

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01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 23: have discovered something of quite such value. Now, these first

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01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 23: edition books are incredibly rare nowadays. Sadly people either know

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01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 23: their value and have stored them, or are you know,

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01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 23: just to have thrown them away accidentally and they're in

1804
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 23: the bin. But this looks like it's been sold now

1805
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 23: to an auction actually over the weekend, and it came

1806
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 23: in at some forty three thousand New Zealand dollars. And

1807
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 23: this was down in painting in the southwest n with

1808
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 23: apparently very very great bidding on the phone, online and

1809
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 23: in the room, and was considerably higher than it was thought.

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01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 23: The book, which incidentally was the Harry Potter and the

1811
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 23: Philosopher Stone first edition, was just of a print run

1812
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 23: of five hundred copies and was among three hundred distributed

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01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 23: to public libraries. Incidentally, the misspelling of the philosophers the

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01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 23: word philosophers on the back of the copy was among

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01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 23: the things that helped the auctioneer identify it as a

1816
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:32,679
Speaker 23: first edition.

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Speaker 2: Lucky mistake, Devin, thank you very much for that. Devin

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Speaker 2: Gray are UK correspondent with US just gone ten away

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Speaker 2: a nine hour away from seven News Talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 1: It's the hitherto for See allan Drive full show podcast

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01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 2: Seven away from seven you're on News Talk ZIBB. So

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01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 2: tomorrow we wait from the White House for news of

1824
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 2: the tariffs on aluminium and steve will affect New Zealand.

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01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 2: We have about two billion in ex sports tied up

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01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 2: in this. They already faced tariffs. They had tariffs going

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01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 2: way back to I was reading about Glenbrook today, the

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01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 2: steel mill, going back to George Bush Junior's days in

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01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 2: two thousand and one, they were talking about tariffs. Then

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01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 2: they've got tariffs now. But these tariffs that have been

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01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 2: spoken about would be on top of those that were

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01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 2: already collected, so it would be a double perhaps triple whammy.

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Speaker 2: So we'll find out tomorrow more detail from the White House.

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01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 2: We are told also Parliament's back tomorrow, isn't it. We've

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01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 2: had post cab todays. Parliament back tomorrow. We have question

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01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 2: time that after a week of recess for White tanging,

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Speaker 2: and I thought I would leave you with this. This

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01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 2: is a great little story again out of the UK today,

1839
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 2: the Church of England. So somebody has gone to the

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01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 2: Church of England and has said, please have mercy on us.

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01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 2: We want the blood and the body of Christ to

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01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 2: be gluten free and non our because we're you know,

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01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,600
Speaker 2: either allergic or we have some and the church has

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01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 2: said no. So I mean I did think actually, if

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01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 2: you were an alcoholic and you wanted to have non

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01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 2: alcoholic wine at the service, then they would accommodate that.

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01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 2: But apparently they have said, nay, you must only have

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01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 2: full gluten bread wafers and alcoholic wine or another. Here

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01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 2: you go, check Tomngland for you. Five away from seven.

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01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 2: What are we going out to today?

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01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 20: We're just going to play out the very end of

1852
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 20: Kendrick Lamar's performance at halftime at the Super Bowl as

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01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 20: it played out on ESPN earlier today. Ryan some interesting

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01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 20: touches he had in there. Serena Williams joined him on

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01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 20: stage at one point, this song that he's performing here

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01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 20: at the end, not like us as a distractor. Drake

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01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 20: and Drake and Serena Williams were dating at one point,

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01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 20: so that was kind of a flex bringing her out.

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01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 20: He also had Samuel Jackson. I don't think we're going

1860
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 20: to hear any of him, but he kind of came

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01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 20: out at various points to do spoken bits in a

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01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 20: big Uncle Sam type hat, and he was telling Hay

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01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 20: stick to the hits, don't do this eg and you stuff.

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01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 20: So it clearly meant to like represent sort of the

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01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 20: conservative Super Bowl audience telling Kendrick to just blay the hits.

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01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 20: So a lot of interesting artistic stuff going on there

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01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 20: for the middle of a sports game.

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Speaker 2: But there you go. All right, we'll leave you with that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Everyone see tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: They not like No, they not like jump. They not

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01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 7: like us.

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01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 1: They not like us.

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01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 6: No, they not like that shop.

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01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 11: They not like us.

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01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 7: Are you, my friend? Are we ling? Didn't step this way?

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01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 2: Step till wave, didn't step this way? Step their way?

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01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 2: Hold on. I go by the name of ka dot

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01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 2: d Ken.

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01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 26: Okay, no, my mister moraw this there is g next

1880
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 26: we come out and way from cap the calapode.

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01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 7: You quitey much are Let me hear you say the

1882
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,639
Speaker 7: yeah bad for somebody, tatta pull it? Do my point?

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01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 11: A woman cares for somebody.

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01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 7: Better. Turn is chip job, turn is tiv yob churnie

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01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 7: tv yop?

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01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 12: Turn is ki yok turn to keep yop, turn is cheap,

1887
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 12: turn his TV yof turn his TV y off.

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01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 7: Ain't know whether king in his rapting.

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01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,679
Speaker 2: Next tipplings, nothing but my children.

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01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 26: What shot take Just a pearment in the city where

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01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 26: the flat begetting thrown passing the pearans passed like around

1892
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 26: the crash, pulling up enough truck just the patreets tags

1893
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 26: hold on kick like he was sea fast. When I

1894
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 26: made it out, I had up on VIDK from a show.

1895
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 26: I showed y'all a rose before they hump from a rope.

1896
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 26: I'm prophetic.

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01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 7: They talk about it.

1898
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 2: How I did it? Good for saving effects. I've seen

1899
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 2: the cosmetics heys.

1900
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 7: I gotta take the level of my aesthetics.

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01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 2: Hurry up your muscle up with you to hide your metrics.

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01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 26: Praying a father luck us up to hide this metric

1903
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 26: chuk a bowl and made the feet you die feting mouth.

1904
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 26: You pull it this tea I was telling walking to

1905
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 26: and leaves the na ya and yet get bad. But

1906
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 26: somebody gotta do it. Got my oh my look off.

1907
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 26: Gotta had a TV job.

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01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 12: Turn his TV yof up, turn his TV y'all, turn

1909
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 12: his TV yoll pump, turning TV yoll turn his TV.

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01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 2: Y off, Turn his TV off, turn his.

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