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Speaker 1: In Australia on this King's Birthday for them anyway, Steve Price,

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Speaker 1: very good morning to you. Good morning Scott Morrison. Always

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Speaker 1: is it one of those you were the Prime minister,

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Speaker 1: therefore you're bound to get an honor or has he

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Speaker 1: done something above and beyond?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting that POULI referred to there, Mike, because

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Speaker 2: it's a very reflective mood from Scott Morrison after being

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Speaker 2: announced that he picks up a companion in the Order

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Speaker 2: of Australia. I mean, yes, all ex prime ministers are

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Speaker 2: given that, given that honor, and he's no exception. But

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Speaker 2: he's very reflective in talking about his time as the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister, as the Immigration Minister and as the Treasurer.

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Speaker 2: And he makes some very interesting remarks in regard to

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Speaker 2: the loss of the Liberals at the last election. Now,

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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison, of course was the PM during COVID, so

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Speaker 2: much of what he talks about is how this country

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Speaker 2: has changed since COVID, and one of the interesting things

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Speaker 2: I think one of the observations he makes is that

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Speaker 2: people the public post COVID are less worried about governments

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Speaker 2: that go into debt than they were pre COVID. So

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Speaker 2: pre COVID, we're always worried about balanced budgets. The Liberal

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Speaker 2: Party and the coalitioner has talked about being better money

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Speaker 2: managers than the Labor Party. He said that no longer applies.

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Speaker 2: He believes that people think that governments should pay for

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff, and it doesn't matter whether they

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Speaker 2: borrow money to do it. He says economic security that

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Speaker 2: can equally mean people looking to the government to insulate

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Speaker 2: them from economic cycles. Well, so that means when he

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Speaker 2: was PM, he gave a lot of people a lot

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Speaker 2: of money to keep them afloat so the country didn't

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Speaker 2: fall over during COVID. He now believes that people have

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Speaker 2: become used to that sort of handouts from governments and

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Speaker 2: so they expected to happen on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: He's a wise man and I think he's right. And

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Speaker 1: we have the same problem here, and they certainly have

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Speaker 1: the same problem in America. But you're heading towards the

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars worth of debt, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: We are? Indeed, and a party went to the last

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Speaker 2: election and won it handsomely without promising to bring down

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Speaker 2: budget deficits, and the deficits go on into you know

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Speaker 2: about six, seven, eight, nine years forward in the cycles

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Speaker 2: and so people go, well, okay, government's got a lot

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Speaker 2: of debts, so have I what can you do for me?

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Speaker 2: That's the attitude people. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's depressing, isn't it. Amazon and the machine? How a

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Speaker 1: they're going to do that in Victoria? I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you're an Amazon, which isn't an Australian company, how do

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Speaker 1: you is the address? So if I wanted a machete,

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Speaker 1: I seen it north of the border into New South

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Speaker 1: Wales versus and bring it into Victator. How does that work?

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Speaker 2: Well, they're in abandon the sales in Australia all over,

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Speaker 2: so not just Victoria. So Amazon goes, okay, you're online

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Speaker 2: trying to order a machete from a machete shop in

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Speaker 2: Ohio in America. Well you can't have it because you're

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Speaker 2: in Australia, so you're not going to get it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this whole machette sales ban is never going to work.

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Speaker 2: And I should point out there was again another shopping

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Speaker 2: center at the beginning of the weekend. I think it

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Speaker 2: was early Friday, late Friday afternoon. Gangs of kids in

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Speaker 2: a shopping center again. Guess what armed with machetes. There's

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Speaker 2: so many of these things in the community that you're

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Speaker 2: never going to be able to get hold of them all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can stop selling them all you like,

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Speaker 2: but they are so widespread. The black market is just

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Speaker 2: so simple, and that's what these people will do.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you can buy a machete if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to at a shop in downtown Melbourne. Can't you?

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Speaker 2: Or not?

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Speaker 1: Well a bad big night.

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Speaker 2: Well you're not supposed to be able to buy a

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Speaker 2: bladed weapon from a hardware store. The government laughingly, the

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Speaker 2: state government's got fourteen officers statewide to go out and

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Speaker 2: make sure that no I'm selling machetes. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: fourteen bloke's wandering around the size of Victoria is going

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Speaker 2: to make much difference.

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Speaker 1: When you have another weekend like that with a shopping

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Speaker 1: sit How aggrieved are people on a Monday morning and

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Speaker 1: talk back radio and all that sort or was it

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Speaker 1: just so sort of you know, problematic now that you

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Speaker 1: just signed you shoulders.

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Speaker 2: No. I think people are very genuinely upset and worried

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Speaker 2: about the youth crime crisis. I mean, because it happens

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Speaker 2: every day, I mean every night. There is some youngsters

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Speaker 2: driving cars at speeds of over two hundred kilometers an

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Speaker 2: hour down the streets, getting the police to chase them

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Speaker 2: so they can put it up on TikTok and laugh

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Speaker 2: at it with their friends. This happens night after night

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Speaker 2: after night. So where are the cars coming from? Well,

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Speaker 2: these kids are stealing them. On that. Two court cases

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Speaker 2: in the Children's court last week involving the children of migrants,

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Speaker 2: one family from South Africa, the other from Uganda. The

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Speaker 2: parents have actually applied to the magistrate in those two

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Speaker 2: cases they have their bail restrictions changed to allow the

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Speaker 2: parents listen to this to send those boys, and they

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Speaker 2: are boys back to Africa because they feel that they

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Speaker 2: would be safer back in their home country than they

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Speaker 2: would be in Melbourne. It's quite extraordinary. I mean. The

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Speaker 2: second case that I'll tell you about is a family

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Speaker 2: alleged car thief and armed robber, sought and granted court

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Speaker 2: approval for their son to return to live with relatives

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Speaker 2: in Uganda. The request was a last ditch attempt to

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Speaker 2: keep the boy away from the bad influences the gang

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Speaker 2: he fell in.

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Speaker 1: It's unreal, by the way, Alban Easy, I'm reading over

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Speaker 1: the weekend with interest, so the g seventies, but you

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Speaker 1: may or may not. I guess he's going to meet

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Speaker 1: Trump whatever, and the prospect of US beef being put

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Speaker 1: back on the agenda for Australia and some of the

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Speaker 1: unions and the farmer is a little bit upset about this.

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Speaker 1: How contentious is all of this and how much does

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Speaker 1: he need to bend to Trump to sort the steel

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Speaker 1: if not all the other bits and pieces.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think stealing aluminium is the bigger question than

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Speaker 2: the tariffs on that because we do, I mean, we

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Speaker 2: have a trade surplace with the United States. They shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be upset with us about anything. But Donald Trump doesn't

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Speaker 2: really understand that. So you'll have to argue hard on

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Speaker 2: stealing aliminium. On the question of beef, there's a bit

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Speaker 2: of misinformation. American beef can be sold in Australia. It's

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Speaker 2: just our biosecurity is so tough like yours is, and

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Speaker 2: so it should be that we need to know where

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Speaker 2: the beef was grown. We don't want beef grown in

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Speaker 2: Mexico or even in Canada that ends up in America

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Speaker 2: gets lord and gets frozen, gets sent here because we

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Speaker 2: don't believe that the controls in those two countries are

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Speaker 2: as tough as they should be. So the beef question

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Speaker 2: I think will be well relatively short. But the other

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Speaker 2: tariff question, if he gets to seed on them, it's

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Speaker 2: not guaranteed. It's on the sidelines of the G seven.

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Speaker 2: They've certainly not announced that he's got a plan trip

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Speaker 2: to Washington or an invitation to the White House.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it? Is that a thing? Because I tell you what,

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Speaker 1: I've looked at all the people who have gone to

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Speaker 1: the White House, and he's not one of them. And

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Speaker 1: he's part of Five Eyes, and he's part of Orcus,

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Speaker 1: and he's a major trading partner. There's something weird about

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Speaker 1: that that he hasn't got on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is, there is, And I mean the commentators

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Speaker 2: here speculated about Anthony Albnizi being too close to the Chinese.

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Speaker 2: He certainly has made lots of comments about China and

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Speaker 2: trading Australia in recent months, and so he's probably seen

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Speaker 2: being closer to China than he is to the United States,

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Speaker 2: which is a shock to most Australians because we still

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Speaker 2: rely so heavily on the American alliance.

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Speaker 1: All Right, mate, you enjoy your day. Often we'll catch

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Speaker 1: up Wednesday. Appreciate it very much. Steep Price Out of Australia.

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