1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,707 --> 00:00:14,507 Speaker 2: B OH Game of Pooka Kobe last night, the Chiefs 4 00:00:14,507 --> 00:00:16,867 Speaker 2: surviving a second half fight back from all one to 5 00:00:16,947 --> 00:00:19,667 Speaker 2: pacificate to prevail fifty thirty five. 6 00:00:19,787 --> 00:00:21,427 Speaker 3: Want to start again? Hear the Chiefs are go down 7 00:00:21,427 --> 00:00:24,187 Speaker 3: the right handline and descended by the one and it's 8 00:00:24,187 --> 00:00:25,707 Speaker 3: how fairly down the left wing flank. 9 00:00:25,747 --> 00:00:26,627 Speaker 2: Bess he got the leg. 10 00:00:27,587 --> 00:00:31,347 Speaker 3: There's a way and they score again and maybe this 11 00:00:31,507 --> 00:00:32,267 Speaker 3: one ain't over. 12 00:00:32,627 --> 00:00:35,547 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it was a funny old game. As I say, 13 00:00:35,627 --> 00:00:39,067 Speaker 2: the tabletop is conceding twenty eight unanswered points in the 14 00:00:39,067 --> 00:00:43,067 Speaker 2: second half after leading forty three to seven at halftime. 15 00:00:43,187 --> 00:00:47,307 Speaker 2: Chiefs assistant coach David Hill is with us. Would you 16 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:49,987 Speaker 2: like to talk about the first half or the second half? 17 00:00:50,107 --> 00:00:53,907 Speaker 3: First, Wow, I'm the defense coach, so I'd prefer not 18 00:00:53,987 --> 00:01:00,107 Speaker 3: to talk about the second half. It was definitely a 19 00:01:00,107 --> 00:01:02,587 Speaker 3: game of two hands. They came off the buy and 20 00:01:02,707 --> 00:01:04,907 Speaker 3: joked that they were still on the buy and we're 21 00:01:04,907 --> 00:01:06,307 Speaker 3: going into the buy and we thought we went to 22 00:01:06,507 --> 00:01:10,027 Speaker 3: buy halftime. So yeah, it was a weird one, but 23 00:01:10,067 --> 00:01:12,107 Speaker 3: it was you know, some good, some good stuff for 24 00:01:12,147 --> 00:01:14,227 Speaker 3: both sides on the attacking side of the ball US 25 00:01:14,267 --> 00:01:15,787 Speaker 3: on the first half and then in the second half. 26 00:01:15,827 --> 00:01:18,987 Speaker 3: So good spectacle, but yeah, not ideal for us to 27 00:01:19,427 --> 00:01:20,867 Speaker 3: lapse like that in that second half. 28 00:01:21,027 --> 00:01:23,947 Speaker 2: Were there any real nervous moments when they got within 29 00:01:24,027 --> 00:01:25,267 Speaker 2: what eight points near the end? 30 00:01:27,347 --> 00:01:28,987 Speaker 3: I think time was always on our side, I think 31 00:01:29,027 --> 00:01:32,227 Speaker 3: because it built up such a big lead in that 32 00:01:32,307 --> 00:01:35,427 Speaker 3: first half and felt like when we when we needed 33 00:01:35,427 --> 00:01:38,587 Speaker 3: to turn the dial up, we could. So yeah, it 34 00:01:38,627 --> 00:01:40,907 Speaker 3: was a weird one like it's you know, they have 35 00:01:41,067 --> 00:01:42,867 Speaker 3: such a big lead and then have that chip away 36 00:01:42,947 --> 00:01:46,467 Speaker 3: so easily. That was a concerning but not nervous mode. 37 00:01:46,627 --> 00:01:49,547 Speaker 3: More more frustration and a little bit of the a 38 00:01:49,547 --> 00:01:52,387 Speaker 3: little bit disappointment and how that panned out. But if 39 00:01:52,387 --> 00:01:54,267 Speaker 3: I called again there where we would have been, it 40 00:01:54,307 --> 00:01:56,547 Speaker 3: would have been to achy bue time. But managed to 41 00:01:56,547 --> 00:01:58,387 Speaker 3: come away with it. So yeah, not a not a 42 00:01:58,467 --> 00:02:01,347 Speaker 3: not a HARRINGDUS result heading into the BISO. It was 43 00:02:01,387 --> 00:02:01,867 Speaker 3: what it was. 44 00:02:02,227 --> 00:02:05,627 Speaker 2: What did you see through your defense coach eyes in 45 00:02:05,667 --> 00:02:06,347 Speaker 2: that second half? 46 00:02:08,187 --> 00:02:10,027 Speaker 3: Yeah, it got on the wrong side of the ref 47 00:02:10,307 --> 00:02:13,027 Speaker 3: pretty quickly in the early in that second half, and 48 00:02:13,067 --> 00:02:15,987 Speaker 3: again the referees are doing a great job around the 49 00:02:16,027 --> 00:02:17,787 Speaker 3: flow of the game and the speed of the game, 50 00:02:17,827 --> 00:02:20,987 Speaker 3: and one of the things I think most of the 51 00:02:21,067 --> 00:02:23,747 Speaker 3: d coaches and the coaches in general are finding, once 52 00:02:24,467 --> 00:02:26,947 Speaker 3: momentum swings and you're on the wrong side of it, 53 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:30,267 Speaker 3: it's actually really really tough to get stops and get 54 00:02:30,267 --> 00:02:31,987 Speaker 3: back in the game. So we managed to get a 55 00:02:31,987 --> 00:02:33,507 Speaker 3: couple of good stops in a goal line and get 56 00:02:33,547 --> 00:02:37,027 Speaker 3: some turnovers and then ended up back there again. So 57 00:02:37,187 --> 00:02:40,427 Speaker 3: the territory is a big one, and when momentum's gone 58 00:02:42,347 --> 00:02:45,347 Speaker 3: in favor of the other team, it is tough to stop. 59 00:02:45,387 --> 00:02:47,227 Speaker 3: So most of the coaches around there are trying to 60 00:02:47,227 --> 00:02:51,427 Speaker 3: figure out some strategies and some legal ways around stopping momentum. 61 00:02:51,587 --> 00:02:53,627 Speaker 3: So that was the disappointing things we did a couple 62 00:02:53,627 --> 00:02:55,107 Speaker 3: of times and didn't didn't do it enough. 63 00:02:55,627 --> 00:02:58,027 Speaker 2: Is there also a part of it that you're ahead 64 00:02:58,027 --> 00:03:00,227 Speaker 2: by so much at halftime, what was it forty three 65 00:03:00,227 --> 00:03:02,667 Speaker 2: to seven at half time, that it's it's hard to 66 00:03:02,667 --> 00:03:04,707 Speaker 2: put your foot on the throat when you're when you're 67 00:03:04,747 --> 00:03:06,267 Speaker 2: so far ahead after the first. 68 00:03:06,027 --> 00:03:11,787 Speaker 3: Forty Yes, yes, you'd prefer not to use that as 69 00:03:11,827 --> 00:03:13,907 Speaker 3: an excuse, but it wasn't the back of our mind 70 00:03:13,987 --> 00:03:16,787 Speaker 3: a little bit. We made earlier changes and you know 71 00:03:16,827 --> 00:03:18,667 Speaker 3: that by playing so well in the first half, it 72 00:03:18,707 --> 00:03:21,107 Speaker 3: gave us a little bit of room to move in 73 00:03:21,187 --> 00:03:24,347 Speaker 3: terms of our subs and our and our players come 74 00:03:24,347 --> 00:03:26,867 Speaker 3: off the bench. But that will be the you know, 75 00:03:26,947 --> 00:03:30,827 Speaker 3: the it's a poor excuse, but there's a small element 76 00:03:30,867 --> 00:03:32,667 Speaker 3: of it. But we'd highlighted that at halftime that that 77 00:03:32,827 --> 00:03:35,387 Speaker 3: was the biggest strip for us, was us just taking 78 00:03:35,387 --> 00:03:37,107 Speaker 3: the foot off the throat a little bit and being 79 00:03:37,147 --> 00:03:39,187 Speaker 3: a little bit not complacent, but not as not as 80 00:03:39,347 --> 00:03:43,267 Speaker 3: urgent as we liked. And yeah, something that we can 81 00:03:43,347 --> 00:03:45,507 Speaker 3: you know, we'll head up to the buy and have 82 00:03:45,587 --> 00:03:48,787 Speaker 3: a good week, but have to highlight that next week 83 00:03:48,827 --> 00:03:50,867 Speaker 3: before we sort of prepare to play the Reds at home. 84 00:03:51,307 --> 00:03:54,227 Speaker 2: Mauana Pacifica have conceded the most points this year, but 85 00:03:54,267 --> 00:03:57,587 Speaker 2: they've also scored more points than anyone else except for 86 00:03:57,667 --> 00:04:00,787 Speaker 2: you guys. Have they become Have they become a trickier 87 00:04:00,907 --> 00:04:02,067 Speaker 2: opponent Mona? 88 00:04:03,267 --> 00:04:06,507 Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, yeah, And that's to be fair, that's it's 89 00:04:06,507 --> 00:04:09,067 Speaker 3: one of those we previewed it scoring you know, five 90 00:04:09,107 --> 00:04:11,747 Speaker 3: to six tries a game and their attack and they're 91 00:04:12,467 --> 00:04:16,987 Speaker 3: you know, like have the lead. Pelle Greenie the wingers, 92 00:04:16,987 --> 00:04:20,187 Speaker 3: both the wingers. Even though Alamala wasn't playing like tam 93 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:23,147 Speaker 3: of for our you know, this hit pieces was going 94 00:04:23,147 --> 00:04:25,987 Speaker 3: better and if Ardia had played then that's a bit 95 00:04:25,987 --> 00:04:28,907 Speaker 3: of emotional stuff as well. So their attack is improving. 96 00:04:28,947 --> 00:04:31,107 Speaker 3: And again you know, like like I said with the 97 00:04:31,427 --> 00:04:35,307 Speaker 3: d stuff as when when when you're under the pump 98 00:04:35,387 --> 00:04:38,067 Speaker 3: and the opposition has got momentum, it's hard to stop. 99 00:04:38,707 --> 00:04:40,267 Speaker 3: But they are a hard team to stop once they 100 00:04:40,307 --> 00:04:42,987 Speaker 3: get gone. So they're definitely improved and well coached and 101 00:04:43,307 --> 00:04:46,027 Speaker 3: going good. So we'll get them again later in the 102 00:04:46,067 --> 00:04:47,787 Speaker 3: year and and be well prepared for that one. 103 00:04:47,947 --> 00:04:49,787 Speaker 2: Well you're going good to and too. The buy well 104 00:04:49,787 --> 00:04:52,547 Speaker 2: clear at the top five wins and a loss. How 105 00:04:52,587 --> 00:04:55,587 Speaker 2: satisfied are you in general terms as a coaching group 106 00:04:55,627 --> 00:04:56,827 Speaker 2: with the first six rounds. 107 00:04:58,427 --> 00:05:01,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a good coaches meeting sort of towards 108 00:05:01,707 --> 00:05:04,147 Speaker 3: the end of last week. You know, probably had to 109 00:05:04,187 --> 00:05:07,307 Speaker 3: play the Blues twice, the Crusaders once, the Brumbies once, 110 00:05:07,347 --> 00:05:10,507 Speaker 3: and the Dura and Fiji. So not the easiest draw 111 00:05:10,827 --> 00:05:14,427 Speaker 3: by any stretch. So you know, like a five and 112 00:05:14,507 --> 00:05:16,947 Speaker 3: one going into the Buyo, you know we would have 113 00:05:16,987 --> 00:05:20,507 Speaker 3: taken that absolutely at the start of the season, so 114 00:05:20,667 --> 00:05:23,507 Speaker 3: really really content around lots of stuff. Right, You've changed 115 00:05:23,547 --> 00:05:26,107 Speaker 3: a few things about how we've played and also had 116 00:05:26,107 --> 00:05:29,627 Speaker 3: to deal with some tough games, so I feel that 117 00:05:29,707 --> 00:05:32,467 Speaker 3: set us up pretty well. So we're content. But it's 118 00:05:33,267 --> 00:05:35,027 Speaker 3: it's a long old comp and you know, the weather 119 00:05:35,027 --> 00:05:37,747 Speaker 3: will change and daylight saving will stop and all of 120 00:05:37,747 --> 00:05:39,347 Speaker 3: a sudden things will be a little bit different. So 121 00:05:39,907 --> 00:05:42,027 Speaker 3: aware that we'll have to adapt and just as we 122 00:05:42,107 --> 00:05:43,827 Speaker 3: go forward. But yeah, content. 123 00:05:44,467 --> 00:05:48,467 Speaker 2: You've also, David used thirty five players in six matches 124 00:05:48,507 --> 00:05:51,547 Speaker 2: this season. In the entirety of last season you only 125 00:05:51,667 --> 00:05:55,987 Speaker 2: used thirty nine, So is your depth being tested? 126 00:05:55,987 --> 00:05:59,147 Speaker 3: Are we been here a little bit that that's actually 127 00:05:59,187 --> 00:06:01,867 Speaker 3: by design? We have had you know, just like everyone 128 00:06:01,907 --> 00:06:04,787 Speaker 3: else we've we've had our injuries and we've lost players 129 00:06:04,827 --> 00:06:06,787 Speaker 3: along the way. We're a bit short on the outside 130 00:06:06,827 --> 00:06:10,987 Speaker 3: backs and still got a Wallace Tis and a Josh 131 00:06:11,027 --> 00:06:13,787 Speaker 3: Lord and a nine nice to touto to come back. 132 00:06:13,907 --> 00:06:17,507 Speaker 3: So you know, I think it's probably a reality of 133 00:06:17,827 --> 00:06:20,027 Speaker 3: the comp that you'll you'll probably need to use between 134 00:06:20,067 --> 00:06:23,747 Speaker 3: thirty five and forty players and sort of happy to 135 00:06:23,787 --> 00:06:25,427 Speaker 3: have that in the back of your mind. Accordingly, when 136 00:06:26,027 --> 00:06:29,147 Speaker 3: we don't make a we make a conscious evorit to 137 00:06:29,147 --> 00:06:30,987 Speaker 3: try and give everyone a crack early on, whether it's 138 00:06:30,987 --> 00:06:33,467 Speaker 3: in pre season or in the game. So James Thompson 139 00:06:33,467 --> 00:06:36,587 Speaker 3: made his debut yesterday. You know it was a big 140 00:06:36,587 --> 00:06:39,667 Speaker 3: one to Hoomer County's captain and wanting to represent the chief, 141 00:06:39,747 --> 00:06:42,707 Speaker 3: so he deserved that. And yeah, I think the depth 142 00:06:42,787 --> 00:06:45,347 Speaker 3: is something you have to be conscious of, but it's 143 00:06:45,387 --> 00:06:47,067 Speaker 3: probably a little bit easier if you get a couple 144 00:06:47,107 --> 00:06:50,987 Speaker 3: of early wins. That makes those changes sort of easier 145 00:06:51,027 --> 00:06:53,627 Speaker 3: to deal with. So yeah, building the depth is important 146 00:06:53,627 --> 00:06:55,027 Speaker 3: and you're going to need it later on. Like you 147 00:06:55,067 --> 00:06:57,867 Speaker 3: said that, it's thirty nine to forty players in a year. 148 00:06:57,987 --> 00:07:00,267 Speaker 3: That's's that's quite a few when you think you need 149 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:03,587 Speaker 3: twenty three out on the day. So some challenges for 150 00:07:03,627 --> 00:07:04,067 Speaker 3: ever from. 151 00:07:03,987 --> 00:07:06,067 Speaker 2: There, and everyone's he's pricked up when you said Wallace 152 00:07:06,067 --> 00:07:10,747 Speaker 2: a tu any updated time frame on his possible on 153 00:07:10,787 --> 00:07:11,987 Speaker 2: his possible return. 154 00:07:13,347 --> 00:07:15,507 Speaker 3: It's one of those ones we decided not to talk 155 00:07:15,507 --> 00:07:18,267 Speaker 3: about it and don't get too excited that if if 156 00:07:18,307 --> 00:07:20,507 Speaker 3: the physio of the dock or someone says, oh, he 157 00:07:20,507 --> 00:07:23,067 Speaker 3: he might be back by this round, you start counting 158 00:07:23,067 --> 00:07:25,747 Speaker 3: down the days which is unfair Wallace, and unfair probably 159 00:07:25,747 --> 00:07:31,107 Speaker 3: on our medical people say, yeah, there's no, Yeah, I don't. 160 00:07:31,107 --> 00:07:34,267 Speaker 3: I don't actually have an update or a date that 161 00:07:34,347 --> 00:07:36,547 Speaker 3: I know that I could I could say. But he's 162 00:07:36,947 --> 00:07:38,827 Speaker 3: he's you know, he's around the place. He's running, and 163 00:07:38,867 --> 00:07:41,707 Speaker 3: he's he's looking good. He's keen. He's such a great, 164 00:07:41,747 --> 00:07:45,507 Speaker 3: amazing personality that it's just nice to see him smile 165 00:07:45,547 --> 00:07:48,547 Speaker 3: and in the gym working hard. So that'll be a 166 00:07:48,547 --> 00:07:50,507 Speaker 3: good little boost price as well, like you know, like 167 00:07:50,587 --> 00:07:53,387 Speaker 3: he had a breakthrough year and and didn't pay too 168 00:07:53,427 --> 00:07:55,107 Speaker 3: barely for a few tifts, so it would be nice 169 00:07:55,107 --> 00:07:56,227 Speaker 3: to have him back and give us a bit of 170 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:57,267 Speaker 3: a boost on both sides of. 171 00:07:57,187 --> 00:07:58,947 Speaker 2: The ball, right, So you do expecting back at some 172 00:07:58,987 --> 00:08:00,347 Speaker 2: stage the Super Rugby season. 173 00:08:01,427 --> 00:08:04,147 Speaker 3: That, yeah, that's the plan. I think it was always there. 174 00:08:04,147 --> 00:08:06,867 Speaker 3: He might might get back towards the end of the 175 00:08:07,267 --> 00:08:09,827 Speaker 3: rounds and potentially be available for the finals. That was, 176 00:08:09,947 --> 00:08:11,947 Speaker 3: you know, that was the original plan, and I'm not 177 00:08:11,947 --> 00:08:13,987 Speaker 3: sure where it's out at the moment. But he's yeah, 178 00:08:14,187 --> 00:08:16,467 Speaker 3: he's smiley, he's cheeky, he's looking good. 179 00:08:16,627 --> 00:08:19,467 Speaker 2: Good updates, good update, excellent, David. All right, we'll enjoy 180 00:08:19,507 --> 00:08:21,507 Speaker 2: the buye. You give you guys a few days off. 181 00:08:21,547 --> 00:08:23,307 Speaker 2: They've got to far flung parts of the country, do 182 00:08:23,347 --> 00:08:24,907 Speaker 2: they and relax a little bit before you get them 183 00:08:24,907 --> 00:08:26,787 Speaker 2: back in ahead of your next game. 184 00:08:27,907 --> 00:08:29,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, well this because we were supposed to play this game 185 00:08:29,827 --> 00:08:32,107 Speaker 3: in Tonga, so yes, I think a few travel plans 186 00:08:32,787 --> 00:08:35,747 Speaker 3: we're starting from Tonga that had to get adjusted, so 187 00:08:36,147 --> 00:08:38,147 Speaker 3: I think probably a bit more local than it than 188 00:08:38,187 --> 00:08:40,347 Speaker 3: it was originally intenders. I think there was a few 189 00:08:40,347 --> 00:08:43,067 Speaker 3: people who would have probably just stayed in Tonga or 190 00:08:43,107 --> 00:08:46,147 Speaker 3: gone to another island. But yep, they'll do what they 191 00:08:46,187 --> 00:08:47,987 Speaker 3: need to do when they've ent it. So it's like 192 00:08:48,027 --> 00:08:49,707 Speaker 3: I said, five and one heading into it, they can 193 00:08:50,227 --> 00:08:52,267 Speaker 3: they can refresh and I think I've got a message 194 00:08:52,267 --> 00:08:54,147 Speaker 3: abou an hour ago from the S and C just 195 00:08:54,187 --> 00:08:55,947 Speaker 3: giving them their program while they're away, so I'm sure 196 00:08:55,947 --> 00:08:57,707 Speaker 3: they'd love them to see that they. 197 00:08:57,587 --> 00:09:01,467 Speaker 2: Are well on a good first Sex Games David, your 198 00:09:01,467 --> 00:09:03,227 Speaker 2: top of the table. Enjoyed the buy mate, Thanks for chatting, 199 00:09:03,187 --> 00:09:04,187 Speaker 2: always enjoy catching up. 200 00:09:04,267 --> 00:09:05,907 Speaker 3: Awesome cheer mate, Thank you, no, thank you. 201 00:09:06,027 --> 00:09:08,187 Speaker 2: David Hell Assistant coach of the Chiefs. 202 00:09:08,507 --> 00:09:11,707 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine listen live 203 00:09:11,787 --> 00:09:15,067 Speaker 1: to News Talks it B weekends from midday, or follow 204 00:09:15,147 --> 00:09:16,747 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio