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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: New stats on our EV market the show they can

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Speaker 2: barely give them away these days. News figures suggest this

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Speaker 2: year just one and eleven cars are electric, that includes hybrids.

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Speaker 2: By the way, which I'll get to this is left

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Speaker 2: important stuck with a lot of stock they can't move,

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Speaker 2: the important motor vehicle industry boss Greg Epps as well.

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Speaker 2: There's Greg morting to you.

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Speaker 1: I think, Mike, how's it going very well?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, the car market generally versus the EV market specifically,

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Speaker 2: can we differentiate the two out or not? Really?

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Speaker 1: This year? No, not really, Mike. It's been it's been

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Speaker 1: pretty hard across the board. You know. Imports have been

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Speaker 1: down this year, they're down from from last year, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the guys in the

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Speaker 1: industry are really just hanging on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the lack of difference. This is my bug bear

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Speaker 2: because I'm a car guy. So when I see reportage

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Speaker 2: of the so called electric vehicles, electric to me is

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Speaker 2: a BEV. Everything else is a hybrid, and they've got

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Speaker 2: to be delineated out, don't they, Because a hybrid is

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Speaker 2: a completely different experience from a bear, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It is? What the government's done is they've said anything

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Speaker 1: that plugs in. So you have your beds, as you say,

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Speaker 1: your battery electrics, and then you've got your plug in hybrids.

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Speaker 1: Sere the ones that have both the petrol engine and

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Speaker 1: a battery. And then you have your petrol hybrid, which

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Speaker 1: is the first self contained system that is just you

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Speaker 1: put petrol of it, but it has the regender battery.

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Speaker 2: Is the plug or the architecture required to plug something in?

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Speaker 2: Is that the hindrance or not.

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Speaker 1: It's a bunch of things I think that really have

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Speaker 1: put us in a in a bad spot here. One

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Speaker 1: it's been the economy, it is the infrastructure, it is

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Speaker 1: the cost of putting in. For example, you can do

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Speaker 1: the trickle recharge and just plug into your normal wall socket,

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Speaker 1: but that's that's not really the best way to do it.

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Speaker 1: So people are really encouraged to put in the charging

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Speaker 1: ports those sorts of things. And then there's just the

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Speaker 1: charging across the country, where while that's been built out

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Speaker 1: pretty well over the last few years, where we nowhere

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Speaker 1: near that sort of coverage of charging to make people

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable about using evs all the time.

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Speaker 2: And then we got the international issue with any number

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Speaker 2: of manufacturers now saying what's we got ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 2: That sends a message. But I'm sitting there thinking maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe not, and I suddenly see four evolvo or whatever,

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Speaker 2: going yeah, no, it's not quite what we thought it was.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go, oh, well, I won't worry then,

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Speaker 2: aren't I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you see, everyone's actually heading to hybrids now. About

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Speaker 1: forty three forty five percent of the used imports that

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Speaker 1: we're bringing in this year have been hybrids. Hybrids are

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Speaker 1: really solid technology that've been around. They reduce carbon output

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Speaker 1: by about half of the normal vehicle. And I think

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Speaker 1: EV's just just weren't there. You know, we went into evs.

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Speaker 1: They're a great solution for the future, but the world

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Speaker 1: wasn't ready to supply US evs at a cost that

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Speaker 1: New Zealand would afford.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more well done, Greg, appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Greg IPPs the FI at five hundred E. They pause

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Speaker 2: production of that in Europe. That's the latest announcement from

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Speaker 2: Fiat over the weekend. Stillantus owned Fiat. They can't sell them,

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Speaker 2: so they've stopped making them for now, and when they

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Speaker 2: can sell them, they'll presumably restart making.

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