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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B It's not your weekend off

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Speaker 1: the right way Saturday Morning with jackdam News Talks. A. B.

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Speaker 2: Mord In A good morning, Welcome to news Dog eDV.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack tam with you through the midday today. Do

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Speaker 2: you reckon that Louis Theroux is the closest thing we

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Speaker 2: have to uh, the era parent for Todavid Edinburgh. I

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Speaker 2: just reckon he is not because I think he's going

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Speaker 2: to be doing wildlife documentaries. He's not going to be

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Speaker 2: sitting there watching the gazelle getting stalked by the lion

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Speaker 2: or anything like that. No, no, no, just because find me

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Speaker 2: someone who doesn't like Louis Throux. Honestly, I just think

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Speaker 2: if they do that. You know, there's kind of approval

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Speaker 2: ratings for politicians and presidents and the like. I just

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Speaker 2: feel like Louis Theroux and Sir David Attenbro would have

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Speaker 2: reason I mentioned him is Louis throu has a brand

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Speaker 2: new show, Louis Theroux in the Manisphere. We're going to

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Speaker 2: take a look at it after ten o'clock this morning,

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Speaker 2: tell you where you can watch it as well. Our

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Speaker 2: feature interview on news Talk ZEDB is Jordan Luck. The

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Speaker 2: thing about Jordan Luck is he hasn't had a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of it in recent weeks. His place has been

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Speaker 2: flooded out. He was in one of the worst affected

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Speaker 2: areas when those floods hit parts of the country last month.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to catch up with him ahead of

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Speaker 2: the exponents performing at the Symphony Festival and see how

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Speaker 2: things are at his place. Honestly, he's been digging out

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Speaker 2: Jordan Lake. Before ten o'clock, a delicious recipe live from

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Speaker 2: the Wanaka show for you this morning, the Tomato a

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Speaker 2: tomato chili jam recipe. When our cook joins us right now,

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Speaker 2: it's eight minutes past nine, Jack Dae. You know I

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Speaker 2: reckon that living in New Zealand is kind of like

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Speaker 2: sitting on the back seat of a bus. You feel cool,

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Speaker 2: the views great, but when the world goes over a

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Speaker 2: speed bump, we just tend to get kicked up in

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Speaker 2: the air a little bit. More than everyone else. The

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Speaker 2: government says we've got more than fifty days fuel, either

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Speaker 2: in the country or in ships that are already en route.

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Speaker 2: That is that's great, isn't it? That's reassuring. But as

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Speaker 2: petrol prices have steadily climbed this week, I'm sure I'm

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Speaker 2: not the only one who's been wondering what agency I

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Speaker 2: have in this situation. I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 2: it would be really, really nice for our household finances

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Speaker 2: to be a little less dependent on the whim and

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Speaker 2: fancies of one Donald Trump. Now, I totally get that

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Speaker 2: everyone's different, Every household is different. There are different pressures

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Speaker 2: and needs, and I promise I'm not going to lect

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Speaker 2: you this morning, but can I gently suggest that this

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Speaker 2: crisis might be the perfect excuse to diversify your household transportation.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. One of the many reasons I hear for

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Speaker 2: people not wanting to cycle more is that they have kids. But,

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Speaker 2: in case you've not been paying attention, bike technology has

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Speaker 2: come an awfully long way. We're no longer in the

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Speaker 2: age of crusty old ten speeds. Case in point. Over

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Speaker 2: the summer holidays, I bought a shotgun, not a double barrel,

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Speaker 2: single gauge, etc. Shotgun No, no. A shotgun is a special

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Speaker 2: seat which attaches to a mountain bike in the space

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Speaker 2: riding a bike, right, they've got their arms outstretched. In

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Speaker 2: And let me tell you it is maybe the most

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Speaker 2: fun you can have with a one year old. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I ride with my one year old. We ride for

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Speaker 2: Can you say dog? We ride for practical computing commuting

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Speaker 2: purposes as well, So we ride down to the local library,

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Speaker 2: it's a totally risk free exercise. It's not. But I

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Speaker 2: I ride a fantastic light, fast gravel bike, and on

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Speaker 2: I reckon twice to maybe three times as fast as

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Speaker 2: I would be if I decided to drive. Honestly, nothing

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Speaker 2: and I'm saving twenty dollars a day on parking. My

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Speaker 2: good hoon on an e bike, honestly, you don't know

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Speaker 2: what you're missing. They're amazing for transporting a human being

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Speaker 2: It's an unmitigated joy that opens up cycling to so

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Speaker 2: many more people. Again, I am not insisting that cycling

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Speaker 2: it is way, way, way more fun too. Jack Tame

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Speaker 2: dot nzed is the email address. How about them warriors

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Speaker 2: that right now, It's quarter past nine. Kevin Murtmon will

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Speaker 2: next I'm Jack Tame. It's Saturday morning and this is

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend then with

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks B.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen minutes past nine on Newstalks EDB. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: your messages. Jack, Sure, let's cycle over the Harbor Bridge

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Speaker 2: to work from the north Shore. Okay, as I said,

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Speaker 2: I thought very clear. Actually, but perhaps not as I said,

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Speaker 2: cycling is not perfect for every journey or every household. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm not claiming it is. All I'm saying is that

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Speaker 2: I think many of us could look at some of

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Speaker 2: That's what I reckon, Jack Aweso edatorial. Thank you on

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Speaker 2: the email this morning. Dean's flip me a note has

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Speaker 2: been so often, does Jack. It's been amazing to me

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Speaker 2: for some time now that schools conscious of their carbon

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Speaker 2: child health, great savings for the planet, losing the crazy

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Speaker 2: school commutes morning and afternoon. Thank you for that. Ninety

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Speaker 2: be dot code on Hendy. I just reckon, even if

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Speaker 2: even if the taking the kids the school isn't going

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Speaker 2: to work with that's totally fine. You do you, But

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Speaker 2: I reckon, if you're totally honest, there would be some

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Speaker 2: money over time. Nineteen minutes past nine, Kevin Mill. There

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Speaker 3: My wife won't let me go out on the bike.

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Speaker 3: She thinks I'm a better responsible and when you're in

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Speaker 3: a car being a responsible, which I don't believe I am. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it definitely takes. I'm not saying cycling

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Speaker 2: I actually think if more of us cycled that cars

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Speaker 2: cycling standard of general cyclists would improve as well. What

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Speaker 2: about are there any cycle lanes in your neighborhood?

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Speaker 3: Uh, we don't really need them. Where we are, there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because one option is just you take that,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So no, it's I think it's great.

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Speaker 3: My mind goes back to the grade old days of

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Speaker 3: christ Church. Yeah, where all the kids rode bikes to school. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, it was terrific, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Totally?

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Speaker 3: I was on my robin hood classic from hob days

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Speaker 2: There you go, how good? See? I still I used

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Speaker 2: to ride. I rode my bike to school when I

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Speaker 2: Anyway, anyway, Kevin, you've been battling this week. You might

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Speaker 2: not be cycling fresh, but you've been battling to keep

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Speaker 3: For I tried to keep up with pop music that's

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Speaker 3: fairly current. Jack. It's good to avoid continually going to

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Speaker 3: concerts by the stars of the seventies and eighties fading stars,

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Speaker 3: You'd be into Latin track, wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Ah, Isn't it a bad bunny for you this morning?

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Speaker 2: Ah, I don't know that not good, Kevin. No, they

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Speaker 2: No. No, it's true that over time most of us

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Speaker 2: Oh, very good, Kevin. I'm pleased to hear it. And

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Speaker 2: and all of the Auckland rain, says Charlie. Good question.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 2: Schools do, says Philippa. We do organize cycling groups. We

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Speaker 2: all push it, especially with moving march. I don't know

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Speaker 2: on them, says Denise. Here. We have a lot of

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Speaker 2: if the government could somehow subsidize e bikes from people

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Speaker 2: a message this morning. Andrew Savills, have you you have

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Speaker 2: a ride a bike? I'm not the don sort of

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Speaker 2: strike me as someone who's particularly enthusiastic cyclist to you.

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Speaker 6: I don't strike you as as an enthusiastic cyclist.

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Speaker 3: Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not. I've not seen you knocking about either

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Speaker 2: the INDs in me or the TV and Z.

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Speaker 3: Look the hills, the hills. I live over the Harbor

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Speaker 3: Bridge rights, that's a sticking point. Obviously, you can't bike

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Speaker 6: I loved growing up as you did in Christ's Biking

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Speaker 6: on the Flat. Yeah, we used to bike everywhere, didn't we.

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Speaker 6: You'd bike across town under the teeth of a Northwestern

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Speaker 6: when the time you got by the time you got

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the fun days.

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Speaker 2: Have you had to go on an e bike?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have. And they're brilliant, brilliant with that texture.

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Speaker 6: Before say somehow they should be subsidized, because I think

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Speaker 2: Then yeah, do you know they are the most efficient

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Speaker 6: And the fact that most most of them obviously you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Hey, what did you say to me

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Speaker 2: we bid each other? Well, last night you said, I'm

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Speaker 3: Who I said it? That kind of thing. Who I

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Speaker 3: said it to it? It was you, wasn't it. You said?

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Speaker 2: As Sam was leaving the office, he said, home to

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Speaker 2: watch the Warriors. They're up against the Raiders. I don't

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Speaker 2: You said, yeah, fake news, fake news.

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Speaker 6: I said, I would be pleasantly surprised if the Warriors

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Speaker 6: it's just unfortunate for them they fell over in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: But well, coach Waldrid, I thought the Warriors were out

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Speaker 6: standing last night. Yeah, the defense jack, the defense led

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Speaker 3: But last night, just.

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Speaker 6: Only to concede six points is outstanding in the NRL

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Speaker 6: a brilliant performance. The thing that's impressed me the last

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: When a Warriors team does well, you've got a mix

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Speaker 6: Ford was outstanding again last night, Tanner Boy, the half

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally agree. No, it was just fantastic, and

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Speaker 2: you know, it just proved as ever, the Warriors are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two wins doesn't make a winter.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it doesn't, it doesn't.

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Speaker 6: It's great for confidence, it's great for momentum, ye, morale,

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Speaker 3: So that's a that's a very good start.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree. Crusaders, Highlanders and Christy

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Speaker 6: Really looking forward to tonight the Crusaders under all sorts

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Speaker 6: The old neighbors who they played in Round one only

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward.

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Speaker 6: To seeing how the Crusaders bounced back from that loss

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Speaker 6: So they're they're under the pump to front tonight in

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Speaker 6: christ Church, one of the last games at the old

432
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Speaker 6: Showgrounds venue before they moved. So yeah, looking forward to this,

433
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Speaker 6: and then of course during the week we had this.

434
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Speaker 6: I think it's been blown out of all proportion. That's

435
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Speaker 6: dust up at training. I've been to a million training sessions,

436
00:23:04,213 --> 00:23:07,173
Speaker 6: whether it's super teams, MPC, all blacks, and there's always

437
00:23:07,213 --> 00:23:09,733
Speaker 6: push and shove when they get into the hard work,

438
00:23:09,773 --> 00:23:13,413
Speaker 6: there's always push and shove, if not the odd stand up.

439
00:23:13,253 --> 00:23:14,173
Speaker 3: And set to.

440
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Speaker 6: So it's it's it's it's not out of this world.

441
00:23:18,773 --> 00:23:21,693
Speaker 6: It's not strange, it's not foreign. I think the problem

442
00:23:21,773 --> 00:23:24,613
Speaker 6: for the Crusaders is I think they protested too.

443
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Speaker 3: Much jack and made more out of it than what

444
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Speaker 3: it was.

445
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Speaker 6: I can't understand them getting a bit niggly if it's

446
00:23:30,293 --> 00:23:34,013
Speaker 6: been misreported, but I think they probably.

447
00:23:33,693 --> 00:23:35,973
Speaker 3: Should have just kept quiet and let it go.

448
00:23:36,173 --> 00:23:38,733
Speaker 6: And and I think some of the coverage of it

449
00:23:38,813 --> 00:23:43,533
Speaker 6: has been quite sensationalized. On the other hand, and this

450
00:23:43,613 --> 00:23:46,053
Speaker 6: talk of a media band. Look we turned up yesterday,

451
00:23:46,053 --> 00:23:49,293
Speaker 6: I think it was and we certainly weren't banned. We

452
00:23:49,293 --> 00:23:52,013
Speaker 6: were able to film parts of the training session. So

453
00:23:52,333 --> 00:23:53,933
Speaker 6: but it all adds, and it all adds a little

454
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Speaker 6: bit of spice into tonight's going.

455
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Speaker 2: Does it happen often?

456
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Speaker 3: Does that happens? Yep.

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Speaker 6: We're often not allowed into training to see the real

458
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Speaker 6: pitty gritty, but some times we are, with various teams,

459
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Speaker 6: we're not allowed to film.

460
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Speaker 3: That's a frustration. We're not allowed to film the heck

461
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Speaker 3: of a lot of the real.

462
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Speaker 6: Physical yeah stuff they do it training because these teams

463
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Speaker 6: do work hard.

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Speaker 2: Of course, but I mean the teams often it would

465
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Speaker 2: be like, you know, when most teams have occasions where

466
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Speaker 2: a couple of players just had a bit of a

467
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Speaker 2: kind of thing, you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, look, it's a it's a it's a it's

469
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Speaker 6: a it's a hard edge sport. It's a it's a

470
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Speaker 6: bat of sport. And you've got one team who are

471
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Speaker 6: playing as the opposition and training, and then you've got

472
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Speaker 6: your starting team and and flying into each other and

473
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Speaker 6: this stuff happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly it's not real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not very good. Hey, thank you sir. We will

476
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Speaker 2: catch you catch again very soon. Andrews have our sport

477
00:24:47,853 --> 00:24:51,133
Speaker 2: over us. There's just, honestly, so many texts and emails

478
00:24:51,733 --> 00:24:54,453
Speaker 2: a couple of you have pointed out the work ride scheme. Yeah,

479
00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:56,693
Speaker 2: that's amazing that that's kind of a ride to work

480
00:24:56,733 --> 00:24:59,293
Speaker 2: benefit program work ride dot co dot NZ where you

481
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Speaker 2: can basically get access to e bikes a whole lot

482
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Speaker 2: easier than you might otherwise be able to. Jack my one,

483
00:25:06,373 --> 00:25:09,853
Speaker 2: I've already has an EV on order after trading in

484
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Speaker 2: her car. This fuel drama has tipped her over the edge,

485
00:25:13,253 --> 00:25:16,213
Speaker 2: says muzz And get this Jack. I'm a trade and

486
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Speaker 2: a Westy. Over the past three years, I've taken an

487
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Speaker 2: ET scooter along the Northwestern Cycleway. I've just clocked six

488
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Speaker 2: five hundred k's on the scooter. I can't believe how

489
00:25:26,733 --> 00:25:29,093
Speaker 2: silly I was sitting in traffic for no reason she is.

490
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Speaker 2: That's amazing. Six six and a half thousand k's on

491
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Speaker 2: your scooter. That's extraordinary. Ninety two ninety two. If you

492
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Speaker 2: want to send us some message twenty three to ten

493
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Speaker 2: twenty tweet to ten on New six said beginning a

494
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Speaker 2: wee bit excited there. The reason why is Billie Eilish

495
00:25:57,373 --> 00:26:01,013
Speaker 2: is about to have her first major acting role. That

496
00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:03,453
Speaker 2: was Billy Eilish, of course, Birds of a Feather, Sylvia

497
00:26:03,773 --> 00:26:06,453
Speaker 2: Sylvia plaths. The Bell Jar is going to be the

498
00:26:06,573 --> 00:26:09,973
Speaker 2: latest literary classic to get the film treatment, and Billie

499
00:26:09,973 --> 00:26:11,333
Speaker 2: Eilish is going to be in it, so that'll be

500
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Speaker 2: very interesting. Speaking of films, time to get your picks

501
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Speaker 2: for this weekend. Francesca Rudkin our film reviewers here, Good morning,

502
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Speaker 2: good one. We are going to begin with War Machine,

503
00:26:21,053 --> 00:26:24,093
Speaker 2: which is screening on Netflix at the moment, partially shot

504
00:26:24,213 --> 00:26:29,373
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. So let's have a listen. Mangers, aren't

505
00:26:29,373 --> 00:26:32,373
Speaker 2: the spiritead of the United States Army? Do you understand me?

506
00:26:33,893 --> 00:26:35,533
Speaker 3: Thanks, Superman, thank you.

507
00:26:35,613 --> 00:26:36,413
Speaker 7: Rest of us look bad.

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Speaker 1: You can expect your emotional, physical, and mental strength to

509
00:26:39,493 --> 00:26:40,453
Speaker 1: be pushed to the limit.

510
00:26:42,173 --> 00:26:46,933
Speaker 2: Bam, bam bam. That's War Machine. So tell us about it, hourrah.

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Speaker 8: Yes, So this film is ridiculous. It is so silly.

512
00:26:54,533 --> 00:26:59,213
Speaker 8: It is totally unchallenging and perfect tonight if you would

513
00:26:59,373 --> 00:27:01,053
Speaker 8: like to just put your feet up on the couch

514
00:27:01,493 --> 00:27:03,253
Speaker 8: and forget about the world and whether you should fill

515
00:27:03,253 --> 00:27:05,173
Speaker 8: the car up or not and things like that. And

516
00:27:05,253 --> 00:27:08,453
Speaker 8: I actually enjoy this film more than I should have.

517
00:27:09,373 --> 00:27:11,853
Speaker 2: Just listening to that, I wondered if Pete Higgsseeth might

518
00:27:11,893 --> 00:27:14,173
Speaker 2: be starring in it.

519
00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:16,453
Speaker 8: And the reason being is that it's an action film

520
00:27:16,493 --> 00:27:19,053
Speaker 8: and they keep the action going and it gets it

521
00:27:19,093 --> 00:27:22,213
Speaker 8: on a roll and it's full on and as absurd

522
00:27:22,333 --> 00:27:24,133
Speaker 8: as the sort of the plot and the premise and

523
00:27:24,253 --> 00:27:29,053
Speaker 8: things is. It's just great escapist sort of entertainment. And look,

524
00:27:29,253 --> 00:27:32,053
Speaker 8: it's always lovely. I personally always love seeing New Zealand

525
00:27:32,053 --> 00:27:34,253
Speaker 8: on screen. And it sort of started and I was going, gosh,

526
00:27:34,293 --> 00:27:37,453
Speaker 8: that Tussick looks very familiar in those pine trees, and

527
00:27:37,493 --> 00:27:39,133
Speaker 8: that's sort of this sorttle.

528
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Speaker 4: Bit of a gurgle.

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Speaker 8: I went yes, And it was partly shot in New

530
00:27:42,213 --> 00:27:44,813
Speaker 8: Zealand and in Australia, but in the South Island kind

531
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Speaker 8: of around Queenstown area. So it looks awesome as well.

532
00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:51,413
Speaker 8: And I'm not Richson, who is of course Jack Reacher.

533
00:27:51,533 --> 00:27:54,053
Speaker 8: He is in this film. He does a very good

534
00:27:54,093 --> 00:27:57,013
Speaker 8: job of carrying this action flick with the sort of

535
00:27:57,013 --> 00:28:00,173
Speaker 8: the limited character development that he's given. It also stars

536
00:28:00,213 --> 00:28:03,253
Speaker 8: Dennis Quaid. Basically, we've got a group of rangers who

537
00:28:03,253 --> 00:28:06,413
Speaker 8: are training to become US Army Rangers. There in the

538
00:28:06,453 --> 00:28:10,173
Speaker 8: final stage of their selection, they're sent out on an

539
00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:13,213
Speaker 8: exercise which ends up being a bit of a fact

540
00:28:13,213 --> 00:28:16,693
Speaker 8: for Survival. I'm not going to tell you anything more

541
00:28:16,733 --> 00:28:20,453
Speaker 8: about it because I want everybody to laugh as loudly

542
00:28:20,493 --> 00:28:24,293
Speaker 8: as I did when I realized what was going on. Yeah,

543
00:28:24,453 --> 00:28:28,093
Speaker 8: so it's a mix of Predator meets Transformer. It's just

544
00:28:28,293 --> 00:28:33,133
Speaker 8: big dumb fun. Yeah, not doing anything tonight, love an

545
00:28:33,133 --> 00:28:35,013
Speaker 8: action flick, looking for some distraction.

546
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Speaker 2: Here you go, very good. Okay, cool, So that's warmer.

547
00:28:38,253 --> 00:28:41,133
Speaker 2: Say that's on Netflix right now. Your next film is

548
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Speaker 2: showing in cinematas, so let's have a listen. This is

549
00:28:43,613 --> 00:28:50,093
Speaker 2: reminders of him.

550
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Speaker 7: There is before you, there was during him.

551
00:29:05,973 --> 00:29:07,613
Speaker 9: I never thought there would be an after you.

552
00:29:08,373 --> 00:29:10,653
Speaker 2: Okay, that's reminders of him.

553
00:29:11,333 --> 00:29:15,933
Speaker 8: So this is another Colleen Hoover novel adaptation, following on

554
00:29:16,053 --> 00:29:18,573
Speaker 8: from It Ends with Us was probably the last film

555
00:29:18,613 --> 00:29:22,093
Speaker 8: that people remember Colin Hoover was executive producer on that show,

556
00:29:22,133 --> 00:29:25,093
Speaker 8: but that film sort of ended actually with more controversy,

557
00:29:25,773 --> 00:29:28,173
Speaker 8: and so she's kind of stepping up now and she's

558
00:29:28,253 --> 00:29:31,053
Speaker 8: kind of taken control of writing screenplays and producing her

559
00:29:31,093 --> 00:29:34,973
Speaker 8: film so these films so that they are more faithful

560
00:29:35,053 --> 00:29:38,053
Speaker 8: to the novels that she's written. I'm not a I

561
00:29:38,133 --> 00:29:40,253
Speaker 8: don't read Colleen Hoover I haven't picked up any of

562
00:29:40,253 --> 00:29:44,213
Speaker 8: her books, but she has a massive, ready made fan base.

563
00:29:44,333 --> 00:29:46,373
Speaker 8: It's clear to see why Hollywood would be interested in

564
00:29:46,373 --> 00:29:48,453
Speaker 8: two of his films into adaptations, and the fact that

565
00:29:48,493 --> 00:29:51,173
Speaker 8: she has so much control would imply to me that

566
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Speaker 8: if you are a fan, you're probably going to be

567
00:29:52,773 --> 00:29:55,453
Speaker 8: really happy with what you see on screen here. It's

568
00:29:55,573 --> 00:29:58,613
Speaker 8: very well made, it's a very handsome production. It's well cast.

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Speaker 8: Got a good cast Michael Munroe, Tyreeq Withers, Lauren Graham,

570
00:30:02,933 --> 00:30:07,453
Speaker 8: Bradley wit would It's a movie about lo and grief

571
00:30:07,573 --> 00:30:12,773
Speaker 8: and forgiveness and second chances. Probably fifteen minutes in Jack,

572
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Speaker 8: I could tell you exactly how this film was going

573
00:30:16,253 --> 00:30:20,413
Speaker 8: to unfold and everything that was going to happen, and boom.

574
00:30:20,493 --> 00:30:24,413
Speaker 8: I was absolutely right. So it didn't for me. It

575
00:30:24,453 --> 00:30:26,853
Speaker 8: didn't need to be almost two hours long. I didn't

576
00:30:26,893 --> 00:30:28,733
Speaker 8: feel like there was enough substance in here. It was

577
00:30:28,853 --> 00:30:32,653
Speaker 8: very drawn out with flashbacks and narrations, and actually the

578
00:30:32,773 --> 00:30:35,093
Speaker 8: cast did a really good job. We didn't need to

579
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Speaker 8: be sort of doubly explained what was going on. Look,

580
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Speaker 8: I yeah, is this is a story of a character

581
00:30:44,733 --> 00:30:48,613
Speaker 8: who is involved in an accident. She has a car accident,

582
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Speaker 8: her boyfriend dies, she was influenced by drugs. She goes

583
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Speaker 8: to prison, she comes out of prison, she's done a

584
00:30:55,733 --> 00:30:57,773
Speaker 8: lot of self reflection, and she's coming back to the

585
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Speaker 8: small town to try to get to know a baby

586
00:31:00,253 --> 00:31:02,493
Speaker 8: girl that she had while she was in prison, which

587
00:31:02,493 --> 00:31:05,733
Speaker 8: has currently been looked after by her boyfriend's parents. So

588
00:31:06,093 --> 00:31:09,893
Speaker 8: it's all about kind of reconnect and forgiveness and redemption

589
00:31:10,053 --> 00:31:14,973
Speaker 8: and things like that. As I say, you know, well

590
00:31:14,973 --> 00:31:19,453
Speaker 8: acted real nicely, terribly predictable and tried to drawn out

591
00:31:19,453 --> 00:31:24,493
Speaker 8: all that. Helen, Karen Carrie Woodham's producer, was very upset

592
00:31:24,493 --> 00:31:26,893
Speaker 8: that I found a blessed Oh no, she said, what

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00:31:26,973 --> 00:31:29,133
Speaker 8: about the music, Francisca, So just for Helen, I would

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00:31:29,133 --> 00:31:32,733
Speaker 8: also a very good soundtrack country numbers.

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Speaker 2: As I mean Helen, as you know, produced Saturday Mornings

596
00:31:35,733 --> 00:31:39,413
Speaker 2: for many, many years, and so I could, yeah predict

597
00:31:39,413 --> 00:31:41,613
Speaker 2: that if she likes the soundtrack, there's going to be

598
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Speaker 2: just a little bit of country and there say the least,

599
00:31:43,813 --> 00:31:47,213
Speaker 2: thanks Francesca. So those films are reminders of him. That's

600
00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:49,893
Speaker 2: the predictable one showing and cinemas and War Machine is

601
00:31:49,933 --> 00:31:52,973
Speaker 2: the hoorah one that's on Netflix. At the moment. Make

602
00:31:52,973 --> 00:31:55,333
Speaker 2: sure both of those films the details for them are

603
00:31:55,453 --> 00:31:57,453
Speaker 2: up on the news talk s. He'd be website Jack.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dutch, so I grew up on a bike. I

605
00:31:59,653 --> 00:32:01,293
Speaker 2: commute to work three or four days a week. I

606
00:32:01,373 --> 00:32:03,893
Speaker 2: invested in good rain gear and gloves. But I do

607
00:32:04,133 --> 00:32:07,013
Speaker 2: have to admit a lot of key we last aren't

608
00:32:07,013 --> 00:32:10,853
Speaker 2: helping themselves. Two three, side by side, undercutting, etc. I

609
00:32:10,933 --> 00:32:13,933
Speaker 2: reckon cycle education in schools would go a long way.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for that. Ninety two to ninety two. If you

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Speaker 2: want to send us a message, We're in the kitchen

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Speaker 2: next with a delicious tomato chili jam recipe.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend US Talks EB.

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Speaker 2: If you like me, are a huge fan of Louis

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Speaker 2: Theroux and actually you just feel like sitting on the

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Speaker 2: couch this weekend, All good, All good. After ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: in our screen time segment, we are going to tell

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Speaker 2: you all about the new Louis Theroux special, Louis Theroux

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Speaker 2: in the Manisphere. The Manisphere. Yeah, this is going to

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Speaker 2: be an interesting one, and you know it's kind of

622
00:32:50,933 --> 00:32:53,733
Speaker 2: a topical subject at the moment, as so many of

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Speaker 2: his things are so very much looking forward to that,

624
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Speaker 2: very much looking forward to seeing Louis do his thing.

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Speaker 2: Right now though, It's eleven minutes to ten and Nicky

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Speaker 2: Wick's our cook is here with us this morning live

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Speaker 2: from the Wanica AMP Show.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, good morning from this beautiful place and this wonderful,

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Speaker 10: wonderful show.

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Speaker 9: It's amazing, clear blue booth day as you'd imagine for Wonica, freezing.

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Speaker 10: Cold, freezing cold, but it will heat up to a scorching.

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Speaker 9: Temperature, I've no doubt.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the one.

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Speaker 10: AMP Show on its eighty ninth iteration, so it has

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Speaker 10: been around for nearly nineteen years, Jack, which is absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 10: One of the largest agricultural festivals that our country has.

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Speaker 10: It's extraordinary. There's just everything, And I love being at

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Speaker 10: a show where every now and again I'll hear a little.

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Speaker 9: Horse whinnying and I'm.

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Speaker 7: Like, where I am? I again?

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Speaker 9: This is crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great favorite part for me.

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Speaker 10: As you can imagine, is went down to the home

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Speaker 10: industry pavilion yesterday where we've got all of the baking, preserving,

646
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Speaker 10: growing crafts, all of that. Just absolutely incredible Dahlia's roses

647
00:34:03,093 --> 00:34:06,813
Speaker 10: all on display. They've all been judged the day before.

648
00:34:06,733 --> 00:34:08,333
Speaker 9: A really extraordinary.

649
00:34:09,453 --> 00:34:12,293
Speaker 10: A couple of things I noticed short bread, short bread

650
00:34:12,373 --> 00:34:17,333
Speaker 10: hotly contested category, carling yet hotly contested, and you should

651
00:34:17,333 --> 00:34:19,853
Speaker 10: have seen them. I was desperate to nibble on them,

652
00:34:19,853 --> 00:34:24,413
Speaker 10: but I wasn't allowed. But Carling Shale, she runs the

653
00:34:24,493 --> 00:34:28,133
Speaker 10: one Homestead, this really beautiful lodge right on the edge

654
00:34:28,133 --> 00:34:31,453
Speaker 10: of sort of the lake and station park here in Wanica.

655
00:34:31,613 --> 00:34:33,613
Speaker 9: She is She's just taken out.

656
00:34:33,493 --> 00:34:36,253
Speaker 10: The top award for her shortbread for the I think

657
00:34:36,253 --> 00:34:38,733
Speaker 10: it was the fourth or fifth time in a row.

658
00:34:38,813 --> 00:34:40,973
Speaker 9: And so I did ask her, what's your what you

659
00:34:40,973 --> 00:34:41,293
Speaker 9: know what?

660
00:34:41,293 --> 00:34:42,213
Speaker 2: What's what's the trick?

661
00:34:42,533 --> 00:34:45,493
Speaker 10: And she said really really low temperature. She wouldn't quite

662
00:34:45,533 --> 00:34:47,933
Speaker 10: go as far as giving me her recipe, but low temperature.

663
00:34:47,973 --> 00:34:51,293
Speaker 10: And honestly, it was just pure white as the driven snow,

664
00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:54,093
Speaker 10: if you like, and it would just looked absolutely beautiful.

665
00:34:54,893 --> 00:34:58,173
Speaker 10: Lots of preserves, tons of really good preserves, and quite

666
00:34:58,213 --> 00:35:01,573
Speaker 10: a few tomato or chili jam So that's what I've got.

667
00:35:01,373 --> 00:35:04,893
Speaker 9: For our listeners this morning. This is my recipe. If

668
00:35:04,933 --> 00:35:07,973
Speaker 9: I was going to enter the one AMP show down there,

669
00:35:08,253 --> 00:35:09,853
Speaker 9: I reckon it would get a ribbon, but I don't know.

670
00:35:09,933 --> 00:35:13,373
Speaker 9: Hotly contested. He's a nice small batch for you.

671
00:35:14,173 --> 00:35:14,373
Speaker 3: Two.

672
00:35:14,453 --> 00:35:16,093
Speaker 9: It will make about two to three jars. I use

673
00:35:16,133 --> 00:35:17,213
Speaker 9: a kaye g of.

674
00:35:17,213 --> 00:35:20,813
Speaker 10: Tomatoes, so everyone, if you're growing tomatoes, you'll have tons

675
00:35:20,813 --> 00:35:22,613
Speaker 10: of them by now. They're really starting to come into

676
00:35:22,653 --> 00:35:26,493
Speaker 10: their own. So one kg of those five red chilies,

677
00:35:26,573 --> 00:35:29,253
Speaker 10: take the seeds out, take that little vein out of

678
00:35:29,253 --> 00:35:31,453
Speaker 10: there too. Or you can use quarter to a half

679
00:35:31,493 --> 00:35:33,693
Speaker 10: a teaspoon of chili flake. So we've got a little

680
00:35:33,693 --> 00:35:35,773
Speaker 10: bit of a kick in here. Chop those up nice

681
00:35:35,813 --> 00:35:40,053
Speaker 10: and small. Two cloves of garlic, peeled and crushed. Two

682
00:35:40,093 --> 00:35:43,453
Speaker 10: cups of white sugar. Remember this is a jam, so

683
00:35:43,533 --> 00:35:45,133
Speaker 10: we do want a fair bit of sugar in there

684
00:35:45,173 --> 00:35:47,013
Speaker 10: to help us with, you know, sort of setting this.

685
00:35:47,493 --> 00:35:49,533
Speaker 10: Half a cup of apple, side of vinegar, maybe a

686
00:35:49,573 --> 00:35:53,013
Speaker 10: splash more. Two tablespoons of balsomic vinegar that gives it

687
00:35:53,053 --> 00:35:56,613
Speaker 10: a lovely kind of extra caramelly sort of flavor, good

688
00:35:56,613 --> 00:35:59,133
Speaker 10: squeeze of lemon juice, and half a teaspoon of salt.

689
00:36:00,013 --> 00:36:01,893
Speaker 10: And all I do, Jack is bring all of those

690
00:36:02,053 --> 00:36:04,173
Speaker 10: ingredients to the boil. I stir it and stir it

691
00:36:04,213 --> 00:36:07,173
Speaker 10: till the sugar is dissolved. Take the heat down, simmer

692
00:36:07,213 --> 00:36:09,853
Speaker 10: it for about an hour, and the.

693
00:36:09,853 --> 00:36:13,053
Speaker 9: Mixture should thicken up nicely. Those tomatoes will become nice

694
00:36:13,093 --> 00:36:14,053
Speaker 9: and polpy.

695
00:36:14,973 --> 00:36:17,173
Speaker 10: You know, these things always when they're sort of boiling

696
00:36:17,213 --> 00:36:18,893
Speaker 10: hot with all that sugar, look quite thin.

697
00:36:18,973 --> 00:36:21,013
Speaker 9: But it's thicken up as it's sort of calls. So

698
00:36:21,093 --> 00:36:21,653
Speaker 9: remember that.

699
00:36:22,253 --> 00:36:24,213
Speaker 10: You can taste a teaspoon of it, you know, for

700
00:36:24,253 --> 00:36:27,613
Speaker 10: the heat and for setting. Put it on a saucer

701
00:36:27,653 --> 00:36:29,413
Speaker 10: and sort of run your fingers through it, and it

702
00:36:29,413 --> 00:36:32,893
Speaker 10: should sort of that line should stay there. It's kind

703
00:36:32,893 --> 00:36:36,733
Speaker 10: of runny, more than sticky, but still a beautiful you know,

704
00:36:36,813 --> 00:36:42,133
Speaker 10: it's beautiful flavor. And I spoon that into warm or

705
00:36:42,173 --> 00:36:45,293
Speaker 10: even hot sterilized jars, seal them up keeps forever.

706
00:36:45,773 --> 00:36:46,613
Speaker 9: I use it on.

707
00:36:46,573 --> 00:36:51,653
Speaker 10: Everything, in toasties, cheese and crackers, sandwiches, not on ice cream.

708
00:36:52,093 --> 00:36:53,773
Speaker 9: Somebody said once to me, do you think it would

709
00:36:53,773 --> 00:36:54,413
Speaker 9: go on ice cream?

710
00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:54,693
Speaker 12: And are we?

711
00:36:55,893 --> 00:36:59,933
Speaker 9: But there you go with parmesan. Beautiful, So that would

712
00:36:59,933 --> 00:37:02,893
Speaker 9: be my entry. And if I was going to eat

713
00:37:02,973 --> 00:37:03,133
Speaker 9: up for.

714
00:37:03,133 --> 00:37:05,133
Speaker 2: Here, fantastic, that's just beautiful. What we will do is

715
00:37:05,173 --> 00:37:07,773
Speaker 2: we'll put that recipe on the News Talks he'd be website.

716
00:37:07,773 --> 00:37:10,093
Speaker 2: Can I give you one last recommendation since you're in

717
00:37:10,093 --> 00:37:12,053
Speaker 2: that part of the country, Please, do you just know

718
00:37:12,093 --> 00:37:15,173
Speaker 2: how I can sniff out a delicious little pastry wherever

719
00:37:15,213 --> 00:37:17,533
Speaker 2: I am. Honestly, I feel like I can hear dessert.

720
00:37:17,933 --> 00:37:20,413
Speaker 2: But if you are looking for a little sweet treat

721
00:37:20,453 --> 00:37:25,653
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, PEMBROKERI you're there, Pembroke pri if you.

722
00:37:26,213 --> 00:37:28,413
Speaker 9: Jack, if you don't think I've already been there, Oh.

723
00:37:28,293 --> 00:37:31,213
Speaker 2: Good, okay, okay, I'm just checking, just checking.

724
00:37:34,373 --> 00:37:38,213
Speaker 10: A yeah, so thank you for that hot Also, thank

725
00:37:38,253 --> 00:37:40,653
Speaker 10: you for your hot tip about salami on the routebird.

726
00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:42,013
Speaker 9: We'll talk about that at another time.

727
00:37:42,173 --> 00:37:44,693
Speaker 2: Yes, I can't wait. Very good. Okay, that recipe will

728
00:37:44,693 --> 00:37:46,853
Speaker 2: be on the news talks he'd be website. Enjoy the

729
00:37:46,853 --> 00:37:49,213
Speaker 2: one an a MP show. We'll catch you again next week,

730
00:37:49,293 --> 00:37:50,733
Speaker 2: Nicky Wick I cooked with us this.

731
00:37:50,773 --> 00:37:56,213
Speaker 1: Morning inside Scoop on All you Need to Know Saturday

732
00:37:56,253 --> 00:37:59,053
Speaker 1: Morning with Jack dam News Talks.

733
00:38:00,933 --> 00:38:01,133
Speaker 4: Jack.

734
00:38:01,213 --> 00:38:04,413
Speaker 2: As a resident of Points Chevalier, I'm loving replacing some

735
00:38:04,453 --> 00:38:07,053
Speaker 2: of my weekly commutes. I can now commute to work

736
00:38:07,053 --> 00:38:08,533
Speaker 2: in the same time that it takes me to get

737
00:38:08,533 --> 00:38:10,453
Speaker 2: to work in my car. But with the added benefit

738
00:38:10,453 --> 00:38:12,213
Speaker 2: of getting some fresh air, some son on my face,

739
00:38:12,213 --> 00:38:14,373
Speaker 2: getting my heart rate up for twenty minutes, and saving

740
00:38:14,413 --> 00:38:17,613
Speaker 2: money on fuel. The new bike lanes in my area

741
00:38:17,733 --> 00:38:20,253
Speaker 2: are great, and I also have no problem riding on

742
00:38:20,293 --> 00:38:22,493
Speaker 2: the main road or using side streets where there isn't

743
00:38:22,533 --> 00:38:25,253
Speaker 2: available space. As someone who loves his car, I now

744
00:38:25,493 --> 00:38:29,453
Speaker 2: also have become someone who loves his bike. Good on you, Ben,

745
00:38:30,013 --> 00:38:33,053
Speaker 2: That's the right attitude. I reckon. You can love both.

746
00:38:33,613 --> 00:38:36,333
Speaker 2: It's not an either or it can be an and ant.

747
00:38:36,413 --> 00:38:38,413
Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to get tomorrow

748
00:38:38,413 --> 00:38:40,813
Speaker 2: your feedback. After ten o'clock this morning, heaps and heaps

749
00:38:40,813 --> 00:38:45,413
Speaker 2: of messages through on cycling just to try and save

750
00:38:45,453 --> 00:38:49,253
Speaker 2: a little bit of cash in this uncertain time. After

751
00:38:49,293 --> 00:38:51,493
Speaker 2: ten o'clock on news talks, he'd be we'll look at

752
00:38:51,573 --> 00:38:54,373
Speaker 2: Louis Theroux in the Manisphere. There's some big changes coming

753
00:38:54,373 --> 00:38:56,653
Speaker 2: to Google Maps that I've got to tell you about,

754
00:38:57,253 --> 00:38:59,173
Speaker 2: probably the biggest changes in like ten or fifteen years,

755
00:38:59,213 --> 00:39:01,213
Speaker 2: I reckon to Google Maps, So stick around for that.

756
00:39:01,373 --> 00:39:03,173
Speaker 2: Going to tell you all about that now. Feature interview

757
00:39:03,253 --> 00:39:06,493
Speaker 2: Jordan Luck from the Exponents right after the ten o'clock New.

758
00:39:06,453 --> 00:39:12,573
Speaker 1: Use a cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning

759
00:39:12,573 --> 00:39:14,653
Speaker 1: with Jack team You's talks at me.

760
00:39:19,173 --> 00:39:21,133
Speaker 13: Let me you know.

761
00:39:21,493 --> 00:39:27,173
Speaker 2: I'm hurting for you. It seems now that it's sober,

762
00:39:28,213 --> 00:39:31,333
Speaker 2: but there is nothing I can do.

763
00:39:32,533 --> 00:39:33,293
Speaker 14: I don't know.

764
00:39:35,653 --> 00:39:38,293
Speaker 8: What does love do that zoon?

765
00:39:39,973 --> 00:39:40,733
Speaker 4: I don't know.

766
00:39:41,813 --> 00:39:42,573
Speaker 15: I don't know.

767
00:39:43,693 --> 00:39:47,093
Speaker 2: Born out of the three more than forty years ago,

768
00:39:47,173 --> 00:39:51,373
Speaker 2: the Exponents are Kiwi rock legends have lodged the sound

769
00:39:51,413 --> 00:39:55,933
Speaker 2: indelibly in the national psyche under a guaranteed play at

770
00:39:55,933 --> 00:39:59,573
Speaker 2: the pub or a summer barbecue. You know, once upon

771
00:39:59,613 --> 00:40:04,453
Speaker 2: a time, I was a twenty first DJ, honestly best

772
00:40:04,493 --> 00:40:07,093
Speaker 2: job overhead, and I reckon I was to go back

773
00:40:07,133 --> 00:40:10,453
Speaker 2: and look through the playlists of those years, about eighty

774
00:40:10,533 --> 00:40:12,733
Speaker 2: percent of the Knights would have finished with this song.

775
00:40:13,333 --> 00:40:15,853
Speaker 2: Later this month, the Exponents are going to reunite on

776
00:40:15,893 --> 00:40:18,053
Speaker 2: stage in front of more than twenty five thousand for

777
00:40:18,093 --> 00:40:20,973
Speaker 2: the Symphony Festival, and Exponents front man Jordan Luck is

778
00:40:20,973 --> 00:40:23,053
Speaker 2: with me this morning, killed her.

779
00:40:23,413 --> 00:40:25,253
Speaker 5: Good morning, Good magic day.

780
00:40:25,373 --> 00:40:25,573
Speaker 12: Jack.

781
00:40:25,613 --> 00:40:26,253
Speaker 5: How are you, sir?

782
00:40:26,453 --> 00:40:29,013
Speaker 2: I'm very well. Thank you. You sound very upbeat given what

783
00:40:29,013 --> 00:40:31,773
Speaker 2: you've been through over the last couple of weeks. Deare

784
00:40:31,813 --> 00:40:33,573
Speaker 2: I ask have you got dry feet this morning?

785
00:40:34,333 --> 00:40:36,653
Speaker 5: I do, right, humming gun boots.

786
00:40:38,053 --> 00:40:39,653
Speaker 2: Well, that's the key. I'll tell you what I'm going

787
00:40:39,693 --> 00:40:41,533
Speaker 2: to ask about all of that, because you have really

788
00:40:41,573 --> 00:40:44,133
Speaker 2: been through it recently. I'll ask about all of that

789
00:40:44,173 --> 00:40:47,053
Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes. But let's start off with symphony.

790
00:40:47,093 --> 00:40:49,493
Speaker 2: So how does it feel to have the band back

791
00:40:49,533 --> 00:40:51,133
Speaker 2: together for an event of the site.

792
00:40:52,053 --> 00:40:54,813
Speaker 16: That's how it feels. Feels very excited about this one.

793
00:40:55,093 --> 00:40:58,173
Speaker 16: I mean, obviously it's an Exponents kig, so that's kind

794
00:40:58,213 --> 00:41:01,613
Speaker 16: of odd for a start. We only do a handful

795
00:41:01,613 --> 00:41:07,493
Speaker 16: of shows and really looking forward to it. Yeah, it's

796
00:41:07,533 --> 00:41:11,973
Speaker 16: always intriguing playing with see those younger fellas.

797
00:41:12,213 --> 00:41:15,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how does it actually work? Explain the kind

798
00:41:15,413 --> 00:41:16,533
Speaker 2: of mechanics of it to us?

799
00:41:17,253 --> 00:41:22,973
Speaker 16: Well, I suppose in a serious way expose us played

800
00:41:23,733 --> 00:41:27,333
Speaker 16: back in April twenty twenty three when we did we

801
00:41:27,373 --> 00:41:31,093
Speaker 16: did a tour. Yeah, and of course that that that

802
00:41:31,293 --> 00:41:33,253
Speaker 16: entails the whole production, the whole lot.

803
00:41:34,693 --> 00:41:35,613
Speaker 5: Organizationally.

804
00:41:37,493 --> 00:41:39,893
Speaker 16: Yeah, we had got a weak rehearsal down in Aerrow

805
00:41:39,933 --> 00:41:45,933
Speaker 16: Town and then well then the then the logistics of

806
00:41:45,933 --> 00:41:48,973
Speaker 16: it are just larger. You know, you're doing concert halls

807
00:41:49,133 --> 00:41:53,213
Speaker 16: and yeah, but this one just walk in, walk out?

808
00:41:54,253 --> 00:42:00,133
Speaker 5: What But yeah, a fabulous show to be involved with.

809
00:42:00,173 --> 00:42:04,573
Speaker 16: I mean faith Less and Black Seeds and yeah, really excited.

810
00:42:05,533 --> 00:42:08,133
Speaker 2: It's gonna it's gonna be amazing and amazing event and

811
00:42:08,213 --> 00:42:10,493
Speaker 2: so so like talk to us about the kind of

812
00:42:10,493 --> 00:42:13,333
Speaker 2: symphony side of things. Have you been to synphony gigs before?

813
00:42:13,733 --> 00:42:13,813
Speaker 12: No?

814
00:42:13,973 --> 00:42:21,373
Speaker 16: And that's another reason why I'm thrilled. I've not seen

815
00:42:21,413 --> 00:42:21,773
Speaker 16: a show.

816
00:42:22,613 --> 00:42:24,173
Speaker 2: Oh wow, what have you heard?

817
00:42:26,293 --> 00:42:28,013
Speaker 16: Just that people that have done the shows.

818
00:42:28,093 --> 00:42:30,893
Speaker 5: I think there was a.

819
00:42:30,253 --> 00:42:33,973
Speaker 16: New premouth one that folk raved about a while back,

820
00:42:33,973 --> 00:42:36,853
Speaker 16: and yeah.

821
00:42:35,733 --> 00:42:39,413
Speaker 2: It's I mean that they're a real experience thing. I

822
00:42:39,413 --> 00:42:41,293
Speaker 2: think one of the things that's amazing about them too

823
00:42:41,333 --> 00:42:45,613
Speaker 2: is they kind of kind of cut across generations. Not

824
00:42:45,733 --> 00:42:47,973
Speaker 2: that the exponents don't. I feel like you guys could

825
00:42:47,973 --> 00:42:49,893
Speaker 2: say that as it is anyway, but you know what

826
00:42:49,973 --> 00:42:52,733
Speaker 2: I mean, like it's you sort of you're you know,

827
00:42:52,973 --> 00:42:55,333
Speaker 2: people from all different generations can kind of connect over

828
00:42:55,413 --> 00:42:58,293
Speaker 2: the music and find their own thing with it very much.

829
00:42:58,333 --> 00:43:03,853
Speaker 5: So yeah, a genre crossing Yeah enterprise.

830
00:43:04,213 --> 00:43:07,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you, like I said, so, you did that

831
00:43:07,053 --> 00:43:10,813
Speaker 2: big tour in twenty twenty three, and what did that

832
00:43:11,213 --> 00:43:15,013
Speaker 2: experience tell you about the place that the Exponents still

833
00:43:15,053 --> 00:43:17,733
Speaker 2: hold in New Zealand music fans hearts.

834
00:43:18,853 --> 00:43:21,013
Speaker 5: And well, we've got a rehearse.

835
00:43:23,213 --> 00:43:27,933
Speaker 16: With the black band Boom Bash. We're just on fire,

836
00:43:27,973 --> 00:43:32,413
Speaker 16: consistently jigging up and down the nation. But Exponents, Yeah,

837
00:43:32,453 --> 00:43:37,973
Speaker 16: we have Brett Adams on board. But Brian Jones, Harry

838
00:43:38,373 --> 00:43:41,573
Speaker 16: David Gen Yeah, we will go back together. I mean

839
00:43:41,573 --> 00:43:43,733
Speaker 16: we see each other occasionally, but.

840
00:43:45,213 --> 00:43:45,933
Speaker 5: Not that often.

841
00:43:46,173 --> 00:43:48,653
Speaker 16: Yeah, and then yeah, we get locked into a rehearsal

842
00:43:48,733 --> 00:43:57,853
Speaker 16: room and yeah, it's work in the sense that it

843
00:43:57,933 --> 00:44:02,173
Speaker 16: depends on how much everyone remembers. And mind having said that,

844
00:44:02,173 --> 00:44:06,253
Speaker 16: with a very very short set, how short.

845
00:44:06,853 --> 00:44:10,413
Speaker 5: I think we're affording the net maybe? Oh yes, so

846
00:44:10,533 --> 00:44:14,733
Speaker 5: we could do who Loves to Victoria? Well do this

847
00:44:14,773 --> 00:44:16,013
Speaker 5: to me and Jaz's odyssey.

848
00:44:17,933 --> 00:44:19,533
Speaker 2: I don't think you don't think he's going to be

849
00:44:19,573 --> 00:44:24,493
Speaker 2: upset about that seat list. It's going to be it's

850
00:44:24,493 --> 00:44:25,853
Speaker 2: going to be a type. It's going to be a

851
00:44:25,893 --> 00:44:28,133
Speaker 2: type forty minutes. So I'm sure you're gonna you get

852
00:44:28,133 --> 00:44:31,133
Speaker 2: to come out of course, Yeah, yeah, yeah, bang so

853
00:44:31,333 --> 00:44:34,453
Speaker 2: So when you're in that rehearsal room, though, describe that

854
00:44:34,493 --> 00:44:36,013
Speaker 2: to us a little bit like you see that you

855
00:44:36,053 --> 00:44:39,453
Speaker 2: see it it's work working that it's working that it's

856
00:44:39,493 --> 00:44:41,133
Speaker 2: not fun or working.

857
00:44:40,813 --> 00:44:44,973
Speaker 5: That honestly, Jack is great fun.

858
00:44:46,253 --> 00:44:54,853
Speaker 16: Because people well it's intriguing because folk may not be

859
00:44:55,293 --> 00:45:00,013
Speaker 16: used to a section or actually just everyone does still play,

860
00:45:00,213 --> 00:45:05,093
Speaker 16: but playing together that's a different chemistry. That's always intriguing.

861
00:45:05,973 --> 00:45:10,693
Speaker 16: And ponents were always volatile kind of unit.

862
00:45:10,773 --> 00:45:15,293
Speaker 2: Anyway, has that changed it all over the years?

863
00:45:16,333 --> 00:45:20,573
Speaker 16: I found I found on the tour it was very professional.

864
00:45:22,093 --> 00:45:24,853
Speaker 16: Britt Adams probably brings that on board. I was just

865
00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:28,533
Speaker 16: earlier in the year I know he was. He was

866
00:45:28,573 --> 00:45:30,573
Speaker 16: not only a mocker, but he was also a dude

867
00:45:31,133 --> 00:45:36,053
Speaker 16: at the same show. So yeah, he brings a lot

868
00:45:36,093 --> 00:45:41,013
Speaker 16: of professionalism to the just this to the affair.

869
00:45:42,053 --> 00:45:45,373
Speaker 2: But it is there, still is the volatility still a

870
00:45:45,413 --> 00:45:48,173
Speaker 2: little bit of a component? Is it still there? Deep down?

871
00:45:49,453 --> 00:45:54,413
Speaker 16: I think that can edge itself, will present itself on stage.

872
00:45:54,533 --> 00:45:58,533
Speaker 16: That's when yeah, it kind of like, oh, you're looking around,

873
00:45:58,573 --> 00:45:59,453
Speaker 16: You're going, has he got this?

874
00:45:59,693 --> 00:46:00,213
Speaker 5: Has he got this?

875
00:46:00,813 --> 00:46:02,733
Speaker 12: Yeah? Yeah that's good.

876
00:46:03,253 --> 00:46:06,293
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's eds your seat stuff.

877
00:46:06,893 --> 00:46:08,733
Speaker 2: I was going to say, in a way you kind

878
00:46:08,733 --> 00:46:10,893
Speaker 2: of you don't want to stamp it out. Ah, Like

879
00:46:10,973 --> 00:46:15,333
Speaker 2: that's the that kind of that volatility might be the

880
00:46:15,373 --> 00:46:17,973
Speaker 2: secret source. That might that might be another word for

881
00:46:18,133 --> 00:46:19,373
Speaker 2: X factor in a way.

882
00:46:19,773 --> 00:46:25,293
Speaker 16: I concurt that really made the live shows during the

883
00:46:25,333 --> 00:46:27,373
Speaker 16: tour in twenty three definitely.

884
00:46:27,653 --> 00:46:30,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're listening to Jack Tame. I'm speaking with Jordan

885
00:46:30,933 --> 00:46:34,613
Speaker 2: Luck ahead of the Exponent's performance at the Symphony Festival.

886
00:46:34,733 --> 00:46:36,693
Speaker 2: So when was the last time you reckon you played

887
00:46:36,693 --> 00:46:38,173
Speaker 2: in front of twenty five thousand people?

888
00:46:39,053 --> 00:46:42,733
Speaker 16: Gosh, I'm thinking that would be for the band together

889
00:46:43,533 --> 00:46:47,933
Speaker 16: for the gosh, it was after the first earthquake. Yeah,

890
00:46:47,933 --> 00:46:52,173
Speaker 16: I think it was mid November twenty ten and everyone

891
00:46:52,453 --> 00:46:54,613
Speaker 16: I think there was one hundred and twenty thousand sort

892
00:46:54,653 --> 00:46:55,573
Speaker 16: of pre system it.

893
00:46:56,373 --> 00:46:57,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

894
00:47:00,013 --> 00:47:04,853
Speaker 16: That was christ was just so optimistic, you know, rebuild

895
00:47:04,973 --> 00:47:07,653
Speaker 16: was happening, that no one had.

896
00:47:08,693 --> 00:47:10,133
Speaker 5: Had lost their life.

897
00:47:10,533 --> 00:47:14,333
Speaker 16: Yeah, after the first quake and it was just really positive.

898
00:47:14,653 --> 00:47:16,293
Speaker 16: And then gosh, of course the second one hit.

899
00:47:16,613 --> 00:47:20,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then and then everyone's lives changed and

900
00:47:20,893 --> 00:47:22,493
Speaker 2: my gosh, you I mean you are still in it.

901
00:47:22,573 --> 00:47:25,813
Speaker 2: So you are in Little River For people who don't

902
00:47:25,853 --> 00:47:29,653
Speaker 2: know Canterbury and Banks Pninsula super well, if you're driving

903
00:47:29,653 --> 00:47:32,613
Speaker 2: from christ Church to kat or Little Rivers before just

904
00:47:32,613 --> 00:47:34,773
Speaker 2: before you get to the big hill. So you go

905
00:47:34,773 --> 00:47:37,813
Speaker 2: go through Ti Tapo, you kind of skirt around. Well,

906
00:47:37,973 --> 00:47:40,453
Speaker 2: you know, I know it super well, it's my old

907
00:47:40,493 --> 00:47:44,253
Speaker 2: stomping ground. So but people might know Little River because

908
00:47:44,373 --> 00:47:47,413
Speaker 2: Little River became a kind of big river, didn't it?

909
00:47:47,493 --> 00:47:51,853
Speaker 2: Last month? With these with these floods. Yeah, it's flooded.

910
00:47:52,133 --> 00:47:56,173
Speaker 16: I've been here since twenty sixteen. It's flooded five times.

911
00:47:56,373 --> 00:48:00,853
Speaker 16: It backs up from Lake Forsyth, but this time it

912
00:48:00,973 --> 00:48:05,453
Speaker 16: was coming down from the hills. One of the rivers breached,

913
00:48:06,493 --> 00:48:11,093
Speaker 16: wiped out two of our rooms. That's gone through twelve

914
00:48:11,133 --> 00:48:16,453
Speaker 16: maybe forteen different homes to various degrees. Yeah, and they're

915
00:48:16,493 --> 00:48:20,973
Speaker 16: still cleaning up. Well, I've never seen the.

916
00:48:21,133 --> 00:48:22,013
Speaker 5: Like we were.

917
00:48:22,493 --> 00:48:28,773
Speaker 16: It was like being in a boat surrounded by water everywhere,

918
00:48:28,853 --> 00:48:32,733
Speaker 16: and with two rivers actually either side of us. But

919
00:48:33,653 --> 00:48:36,933
Speaker 16: the weird it was we had a moat actually but

920
00:48:37,013 --> 00:48:41,333
Speaker 16: without a drawbridge for two days. But yeah, you just

921
00:48:41,413 --> 00:48:44,693
Speaker 16: didn't know where where the current where the torrents we're

922
00:48:44,733 --> 00:48:49,653
Speaker 16: going to go, and you'd think it was receding the

923
00:48:49,653 --> 00:48:52,413
Speaker 16: water levels, but then it would rise back up because

924
00:48:52,453 --> 00:48:56,973
Speaker 16: something else further upstream had had happened. And yeah, it

925
00:48:57,093 --> 00:49:01,853
Speaker 16: was I mean exciting to it in adrenaline.

926
00:49:02,373 --> 00:49:04,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, way, but.

927
00:49:05,533 --> 00:49:07,213
Speaker 2: Sort of as in the moment and tay. But then

928
00:49:07,573 --> 00:49:10,053
Speaker 2: you know, like and we learned this in the earthquakes too.

929
00:49:10,093 --> 00:49:12,493
Speaker 2: It's the kind of days and weeks afterwards when you're

930
00:49:12,533 --> 00:49:15,093
Speaker 2: still still sealing, still dealing.

931
00:49:14,733 --> 00:49:15,293
Speaker 3: With all the.

932
00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:18,693
Speaker 2: All the mess and the cells and the damage and

933
00:49:18,733 --> 00:49:22,613
Speaker 2: everything else, and you're exhausted, and you know, lots of

934
00:49:22,653 --> 00:49:24,533
Speaker 2: other people in other parts of the country, etcetera. They've

935
00:49:24,573 --> 00:49:26,333
Speaker 2: kind of moved on and they're on to the next thing.

936
00:49:26,373 --> 00:49:28,093
Speaker 2: It can it can be a really it can be

937
00:49:28,133 --> 00:49:29,813
Speaker 2: a really difficult thing to experience.

938
00:49:30,413 --> 00:49:38,893
Speaker 16: Absolutely no power, no sewerage. We've been lucky in that respect.

939
00:49:38,933 --> 00:49:44,533
Speaker 16: Christ it's earthquake, I mean five weeks, six weeks. Yeah,

940
00:49:45,333 --> 00:49:50,293
Speaker 16: it's happening. We saw during rock Band going through s Valley,

941
00:49:50,893 --> 00:49:58,173
Speaker 16: the vineyards there, gabriel just Auckland with after Gabrielle the

942
00:49:58,213 --> 00:50:02,613
Speaker 16: blooming homes that you'd never think would ever have seen

943
00:50:02,693 --> 00:50:10,013
Speaker 16: water flooded out basements and yeah, Motoracre with my mum,

944
00:50:10,653 --> 00:50:14,533
Speaker 16: my mum is their roads still wiped out, sort of

945
00:50:14,533 --> 00:50:17,573
Speaker 16: in between Cherry and yeah, at the bottom of the

946
00:50:17,573 --> 00:50:18,653
Speaker 16: able Tasman train.

947
00:50:20,053 --> 00:50:24,093
Speaker 2: Just happens all the time. This is so much. Yeah, yeah,

948
00:50:26,013 --> 00:50:27,253
Speaker 2: the one in a hundred years.

949
00:50:27,373 --> 00:50:30,013
Speaker 5: That's kind of wow. That one hundred years came up quickly.

950
00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:35,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's it's a pretty worrying thought. Really.

951
00:50:35,893 --> 00:50:37,093
Speaker 2: So is your place okay?

952
00:50:37,133 --> 00:50:44,733
Speaker 16: Now it's try probably moving. No, I wouldn't be able to.

953
00:50:44,973 --> 00:50:49,133
Speaker 16: I can't estimate it. Very lucky Farmer's Mutual Group have

954
00:50:49,213 --> 00:50:53,333
Speaker 16: been very good. Yeah, we'll see probably, I don't know,

955
00:50:53,493 --> 00:50:55,533
Speaker 16: actually months maybe hopefully.

956
00:50:55,693 --> 00:50:58,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really hope it's all right. And I'll tell

957
00:50:58,493 --> 00:51:01,333
Speaker 2: you what it'll be. It'll be nice just to as

958
00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:04,453
Speaker 2: great as it'll be to have everything at home sorted

959
00:51:04,493 --> 00:51:07,013
Speaker 2: and settled and dry and warm and all that stuff.

960
00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:10,093
Speaker 2: I can imagine that actually getting out of the valley

961
00:51:10,133 --> 00:51:12,613
Speaker 2: just a little bit and and putting on some shows.

962
00:51:12,653 --> 00:51:14,293
Speaker 2: Might it might be a little nice distraction.

963
00:51:15,253 --> 00:51:18,053
Speaker 16: Yeah, we've we've got we've got into the actually two

964
00:51:18,053 --> 00:51:21,093
Speaker 16: shows in the road with the trom I'm grown. Yeah

965
00:51:21,293 --> 00:51:23,693
Speaker 16: it's good. And then the Exponent's Symphony.

966
00:51:23,813 --> 00:51:24,613
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's good.

967
00:51:24,733 --> 00:51:26,933
Speaker 2: It's going to be amazing. Well, look, we're delighted to

968
00:51:26,933 --> 00:51:30,533
Speaker 2: speak with you. Really really looking forward to the Symphony Festival.

969
00:51:30,533 --> 00:51:32,253
Speaker 2: It's gonna be it's going to be an extraordinary thing

970
00:51:32,293 --> 00:51:35,333
Speaker 2: to behold. Good luck with everything at home, keep your

971
00:51:35,373 --> 00:51:37,053
Speaker 2: chin up and we look forward to speaking soon.

972
00:51:37,813 --> 00:51:39,813
Speaker 5: Well, Loving, thank you so much, Jack, Thank you for your.

973
00:51:39,813 --> 00:51:43,213
Speaker 2: Time, so good Jordan. Luck from the Exponent. So symphony

974
00:51:43,493 --> 00:51:48,013
Speaker 2: is next weekend. You can get tickets at symphony dot com.

975
00:51:48,093 --> 00:51:51,373
Speaker 2: And of course it's Symphony not Symphony, so s y

976
00:51:51,653 --> 00:51:56,333
Speaker 2: n t h O n Y synthhony dot com. We'll

977
00:51:56,373 --> 00:51:57,893
Speaker 2: make sure we put a link in the details up

978
00:51:57,893 --> 00:51:59,813
Speaker 2: on the news talks. He'd be website as well. Now

979
00:51:59,853 --> 00:52:02,133
Speaker 2: before eleven o'clock and news talks, we're in the garden

980
00:52:02,813 --> 00:52:05,733
Speaker 2: Ah and we have a curious question that we are

981
00:52:05,733 --> 00:52:09,013
Speaker 2: going to be posed our personal finance expert this morning.

982
00:52:09,013 --> 00:52:14,253
Speaker 2: The question is this, can you save too much? I

983
00:52:14,293 --> 00:52:17,053
Speaker 2: mean you would think no, but Yin we said, well,

984
00:52:17,133 --> 00:52:21,413
Speaker 2: actually maybe sometimes savings aren't actually working for you in

985
00:52:21,413 --> 00:52:23,653
Speaker 2: the way that some other investments might. So we're going

986
00:52:23,693 --> 00:52:25,733
Speaker 2: to ask her about that very shortly. I'll get tomorrow

987
00:52:25,733 --> 00:52:28,133
Speaker 2: your feedback regarding cycling as well. If you're just turning

988
00:52:28,173 --> 00:52:31,733
Speaker 2: on the radio this morning before ten o'clock, I was

989
00:52:31,853 --> 00:52:34,093
Speaker 2: talking about this situation in the Middle East and petrol

990
00:52:34,093 --> 00:52:35,893
Speaker 2: prices et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and saying that

991
00:52:36,053 --> 00:52:39,013
Speaker 2: maybe a few more of us, if we were totally honest,

992
00:52:39,133 --> 00:52:41,213
Speaker 2: could look at some of the journeys we do in

993
00:52:41,253 --> 00:52:44,893
Speaker 2: our cars and actually choose to ride our bikes instead.

994
00:52:45,573 --> 00:52:47,853
Speaker 2: And I was saying that, personally, honestly, cycling is just

995
00:52:47,893 --> 00:52:51,933
Speaker 2: such a joy. I cycle to work. The boys at

996
00:52:51,973 --> 00:52:53,773
Speaker 2: my place cycle, so I take my one year old

997
00:52:53,853 --> 00:52:55,933
Speaker 2: on little seat that clips onto my bike. The nine

998
00:52:55,973 --> 00:52:59,053
Speaker 2: year old rides his bike to school. Jack, we're gold

999
00:52:59,093 --> 00:53:02,413
Speaker 2: card holders, says Robin. We moved from crusty ten speeds

1000
00:53:02,413 --> 00:53:04,573
Speaker 2: to e bikes. Let me tell you it is a

1001
00:53:04,613 --> 00:53:08,573
Speaker 2: whole new world, so much fun. Go you, Thanks, Robin.

1002
00:53:08,613 --> 00:53:10,613
Speaker 2: I'll get to morow your feedback shortly ninety two ninety

1003
00:53:10,613 --> 00:53:12,333
Speaker 2: two if you want to send us as textus twenty

1004
00:53:12,373 --> 00:53:14,213
Speaker 2: one past ten. Next up, we're going to tell you

1005
00:53:14,253 --> 00:53:18,413
Speaker 2: about the brand new Louis Theroux special. It's screen time time,

1006
00:53:20,653 --> 00:53:20,893
Speaker 2: not on.

1007
00:53:20,973 --> 00:53:24,533
Speaker 1: Your weekend, off the right way Saturday Morning with Jack

1008
00:53:24,653 --> 00:53:25,613
Speaker 1: Dame us.

1009
00:53:25,533 --> 00:53:30,093
Speaker 2: Talks twenty three minutes past ten on news Talk ZB,

1010
00:53:30,253 --> 00:53:34,173
Speaker 2: which means it's screen time time if you are looking

1011
00:53:34,213 --> 00:53:37,693
Speaker 2: for something good to watch or stream from the comfort

1012
00:53:37,733 --> 00:53:41,053
Speaker 2: of your place this weekend. Carl Pushman has his recommendations

1013
00:53:41,053 --> 00:53:45,133
Speaker 2: for us. Get a Carl, Good morning Jack. Let's begin

1014
00:53:45,333 --> 00:53:48,013
Speaker 2: with the latest special from Louis Theroux. Tell Us about

1015
00:53:48,053 --> 00:53:50,373
Speaker 2: Louis Theroux Inside the Manisphere.

1016
00:53:52,013 --> 00:53:52,173
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1017
00:53:52,213 --> 00:53:54,293
Speaker 17: I was really excited for this one because if there's

1018
00:53:54,293 --> 00:53:57,013
Speaker 17: anyone capable of not only going inside the Manisphere but

1019
00:53:57,013 --> 00:54:01,293
Speaker 17: then escaping and tact out the other side, it's Louis. Now,

1020
00:54:01,573 --> 00:54:03,333
Speaker 17: if you don't know the Manisphere, this is the name

1021
00:54:03,373 --> 00:54:07,173
Speaker 17: given to the podcasts and social media communities that champion

1022
00:54:07,253 --> 00:54:11,493
Speaker 17: this toxic idea of masculinity. It's really poisonous stuff, just

1023
00:54:11,613 --> 00:54:17,333
Speaker 17: horrifically misogynistic and as we see, exploitative of its fans.

1024
00:54:17,773 --> 00:54:19,933
Speaker 17: And what makes it so dangerous is that it paraded

1025
00:54:20,013 --> 00:54:23,133
Speaker 17: under the banner of self improvement helping, claiming to help

1026
00:54:23,213 --> 00:54:27,333
Speaker 17: men get financially independent and rich and get super fit

1027
00:54:27,413 --> 00:54:29,293
Speaker 17: and all that kind of things, which you know, self

1028
00:54:29,333 --> 00:54:34,173
Speaker 17: improvement is good, but this takes an incredibly dark, dark turn,

1029
00:54:34,813 --> 00:54:38,453
Speaker 17: and you know, it's scary how massively popular it's become.

1030
00:54:39,013 --> 00:54:41,973
Speaker 17: The documentary shows thirty four year old kids running up

1031
00:54:41,973 --> 00:54:45,173
Speaker 17: to these four Manisphere influences that Louis spend time with

1032
00:54:45,493 --> 00:54:47,813
Speaker 17: asking for self east and buzzing around with you know,

1033
00:54:48,013 --> 00:54:52,213
Speaker 17: genuine excitement at meeting these guys, and it's really worrying,

1034
00:54:52,333 --> 00:54:54,733
Speaker 17: especially as a parent. You know, if you're a parent

1035
00:54:54,773 --> 00:54:57,853
Speaker 17: of a young boy, you don't want them going anywhere

1036
00:54:57,853 --> 00:55:00,333
Speaker 17: near this stuff because the views and the ideas are

1037
00:55:00,733 --> 00:55:03,573
Speaker 17: just horrible. And if you're the mother of a daughter,

1038
00:55:04,653 --> 00:55:07,213
Speaker 17: I mean a father, a parent of a daughter, it's

1039
00:55:07,333 --> 00:55:10,693
Speaker 17: just as bad because these guys are teaching young men

1040
00:55:10,893 --> 00:55:16,333
Speaker 17: just awful, awful behaviors and ideas and philosophies, so you know,

1041
00:55:16,373 --> 00:55:21,133
Speaker 17: it's not pleasant stuff at all. Louis goes in and

1042
00:55:21,533 --> 00:55:25,413
Speaker 17: you know, he's the master of giving people enough rope

1043
00:55:25,453 --> 00:55:29,573
Speaker 17: to hang themselves. And what I loved about this documentary

1044
00:55:29,573 --> 00:55:32,693
Speaker 17: in particular is that this time he's dropped his bafflement.

1045
00:55:32,733 --> 00:55:34,533
Speaker 17: You know, that's sort of his stick. You know, he

1046
00:55:34,893 --> 00:55:37,293
Speaker 17: looks all surprised and all what's gone here, and does

1047
00:55:37,333 --> 00:55:40,373
Speaker 17: it that way. This time he's a bit more hard edged,

1048
00:55:40,413 --> 00:55:42,413
Speaker 17: and he sort of goes in a little bit more

1049
00:55:42,933 --> 00:55:47,973
Speaker 17: aggressive in exposing these guys, you know, and they're all

1050
00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:50,733
Speaker 17: puffed up and acting as alpha as they can around him,

1051
00:55:51,053 --> 00:55:53,413
Speaker 17: and he just deflates them with you know, a single

1052
00:55:53,453 --> 00:55:56,413
Speaker 17: line or quip and sometimes just a smirk is enough

1053
00:55:56,413 --> 00:56:01,733
Speaker 17: to completely derail them. It's really brilliant stuff. So, you know,

1054
00:56:01,813 --> 00:56:04,973
Speaker 17: he's Louie's just just great and he is just there

1055
00:56:06,653 --> 00:56:10,373
Speaker 17: taking you know, taking them down. But in that Louis

1056
00:56:10,413 --> 00:56:15,253
Speaker 17: through way, which is just wonderful to see. Yeah, they

1057
00:56:15,293 --> 00:56:17,253
Speaker 17: don't really know what to make of them, actually, and

1058
00:56:17,333 --> 00:56:20,773
Speaker 17: the documentary shows heaps of their social media footage where

1059
00:56:21,413 --> 00:56:24,893
Speaker 17: they're talking to their Instagram followers, whatever, and just freaking

1060
00:56:24,893 --> 00:56:26,973
Speaker 17: out about their interactions with them while still trying to

1061
00:56:26,973 --> 00:56:31,693
Speaker 17: come across as these big, alpha, alpha manly men. So yeah,

1062
00:56:31,733 --> 00:56:36,093
Speaker 17: in that regard, it's great. It's really impactful, and it's

1063
00:56:36,093 --> 00:56:39,053
Speaker 17: a really powerful documentary. But at the end of it, sadly,

1064
00:56:39,133 --> 00:56:42,533
Speaker 17: Louis doesn't have any answers really for how to combat

1065
00:56:42,573 --> 00:56:45,453
Speaker 17: the stuff or how to take it on. He shows

1066
00:56:45,493 --> 00:56:49,973
Speaker 17: that laughing at them is very effective and works, but

1067
00:56:50,293 --> 00:56:53,653
Speaker 17: they're so big now that the audience doesn't know we're

1068
00:56:53,693 --> 00:56:56,813
Speaker 17: laughing at them, and that's where it all sort of

1069
00:56:56,893 --> 00:57:01,013
Speaker 17: there's no answer, which maybe it's that's unfair to think

1070
00:57:01,013 --> 00:57:03,373
Speaker 17: he could provide, but it would have been good just

1071
00:57:03,373 --> 00:57:06,333
Speaker 17: to have a little bit more depth in there still

1072
00:57:06,573 --> 00:57:09,493
Speaker 17: and engaging and engaging what so I highly recommend.

1073
00:57:09,653 --> 00:57:13,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it sounds interesting. It's sort of like, yeah,

1074
00:57:13,693 --> 00:57:16,853
Speaker 2: you wonder sometimes too if mocking people like this actually

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00:57:16,933 --> 00:57:20,013
Speaker 2: ends up just contributing to the you know, to the

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00:57:20,093 --> 00:57:22,133
Speaker 2: issue or to the phenomenon a, so that that'll be

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Speaker 2: really interesting. I can't wait to see it. As soon

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Speaker 2: as I saw he was doing the Manisphere, I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be a bit of me. So that

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Speaker 2: is point you made. Well, I think we've lost you there.

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Speaker 2: Hang on as you can, car. We will see if

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00:57:36,973 --> 00:57:38,173
Speaker 2: we can get your back up and running. In just

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Speaker 2: a moment we are, You're there, We've got this girl,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Suddenly there's the Gremlins and the Fine

1085
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Speaker 2: Line today. So that's lowly through inside the Manisphere. That's

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Speaker 2: on Netflix. Speaking of Louise or Lewis, tell us about

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Speaker 2: DTF Saint Louis. This is on Neon.

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00:57:58,293 --> 00:58:00,013
Speaker 17: Yes, Now, if you know the acronym, it's a very

1089
00:58:00,013 --> 00:58:03,413
Speaker 17: attention grabbing title. However, I'll explain it for more innocent

1090
00:58:03,413 --> 00:58:06,053
Speaker 17: people like yourself there, Jack, it's a more explicit way

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00:58:06,093 --> 00:58:08,613
Speaker 17: of saying that you're open to engaging in relations of

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Speaker 17: an adult nature piece together diplomatic. Yes, yes, the risky

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00:58:14,693 --> 00:58:17,893
Speaker 17: titled you know it appealed, But rather it was the

1094
00:58:17,893 --> 00:58:21,133
Speaker 17: show's stars, Justin Bateman and David Harbor that made me

1095
00:58:21,173 --> 00:58:22,733
Speaker 17: want to watch this thing. You know, put those guys

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Speaker 17: into anything, and I'm going to give it a shot.

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Speaker 17: It's an HBO show and it's a bit of a

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00:58:27,133 --> 00:58:30,973
Speaker 17: genre bender. It's a darkly comedic crime series that mashes

1099
00:58:31,093 --> 00:58:34,933
Speaker 17: midlife malaise with a murder mystery. In that regard, it

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Speaker 17: is very unique and it has that same vibe as

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00:58:37,933 --> 00:58:41,133
Speaker 17: a Coen Brothers film, which you know, I that's high praise.

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Speaker 17: I love the Coen Brothers and this has that same

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00:58:43,653 --> 00:58:47,373
Speaker 17: those deep realistic characters, but everyone's got their quirks to

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00:58:47,413 --> 00:58:50,533
Speaker 17: them and it's a little bit offbeat and weird. So

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00:58:50,693 --> 00:58:53,213
Speaker 17: it's yeah, it's really great. It follows the friendship and

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Speaker 17: love triangle that develops between a local weatherman played by

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Speaker 17: Justin Bateman, it's on screen sign language interpreter, which is

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Speaker 17: David Harbor, and the interpreter's wife. This is all sparked

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00:59:04,253 --> 00:59:07,053
Speaker 17: when the two men start in their words floring the

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Speaker 17: hook up app the Indian saying Lewis. Things spiral from there,

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Speaker 17: culminating a highly suspicious murder in episode one and this

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Speaker 17: has been the show introduces two detectives.

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Speaker 3: And they.

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Speaker 17: Apple dynamic, which really pushes the series forward. Is it

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Speaker 17: sort of splits into two timelines, the events leading up

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Speaker 17: to the murder and the present day investigation. These two

1117
00:59:28,773 --> 00:59:33,133
Speaker 17: investigators are wonderfully dry. It's very very funny. No surprises

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Speaker 17: are two leagues are great. Justin Bateman is one of

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Speaker 17: the most likable actors on TV. You just can't help

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Speaker 17: but like that guy. And here he really works at gift,

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Speaker 17: introducing a very sleazy side, sort of creepy to his

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Speaker 17: everyman persona as the Jim hagyesque weather man. In the

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Speaker 17: show so star David Habe Harber. His portrayal of the

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Speaker 17: protective dad Jim Hopper made him one of the big

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Speaker 17: breakout stars of Stranger Things, and here he double downs

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Speaker 17: as the good natured sign language interpreter. The big irony being,

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Speaker 17: of course, that he's playing a man who onloads a

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Speaker 17: hook up app to escape a stagnant marriage, which was

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Speaker 17: actually doing in real life while they filmed this series.

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Speaker 17: While he was married to pop star Lily Allen, who

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Speaker 17: then went on to write all about it in great

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Speaker 17: personal detail in her last album Westin Girl. But we

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Speaker 17: won't gossip. I'll just say DTF Sat Lewis is really

1134
01:00:23,653 --> 01:00:26,733
Speaker 17: really good. It's quirky and funny and intriguing. The mystery

1135
01:00:26,813 --> 01:00:29,333
Speaker 17: just keeps you guessing at what's actually going on. And

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Speaker 17: I will warn that it does live up to the

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Speaker 17: crude ra eighteen suggestions of its title. So if you're

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Speaker 17: a bit more of a sensitive nature, you might want

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Speaker 17: to give it a miss. For everyone else, yeah, I

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Speaker 17: love it.

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Speaker 2: It's great. Okay, oh very good. So that's DT Saint Lewis.

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Speaker 2: That's on Neon's. Houn's very quirky, so my worth a crack.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for that, Carl Carl's first show

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01:00:47,493 --> 01:00:49,573
Speaker 2: of course, Louis throu Inside the man a Sphere that's

1145
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Speaker 2: on Netflix, and you can hear more from Karl on

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Speaker 2: his sub stack screen crack.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on News talks'b.

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Speaker 18: Money but Thirlevens then lay a rich now work added

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Speaker 18: Daddy Taxnel be so and love great and he asteen

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Speaker 18: Burniture Murden to.

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Speaker 2: Diamond Diamond, I love the song so Good It's Lady

1153
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Speaker 2: six and Diamonds. The biggest celebration of local music is

1154
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Speaker 2: on this weekend Homegrown so the tron for its eighteenth iteration.

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Speaker 2: So more than sixty Kiwi bands and artists are going

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Speaker 2: to be playing at the Claudlands Oval in Hamilton today,

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Speaker 2: which is a real testament to the strength of our

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Speaker 2: music scene. Sixty top local artists playing across seven stages

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Speaker 2: to a crowd of thirty five thousand people. That is

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Speaker 2: no small feat. This year's acts include Megastars six, sixty,

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Speaker 2: Lab Lady six, David Dallas and ver Patrol. And our

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Speaker 2: music reviewer is going to be there celebrating alongside those

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Speaker 2: other thirty four thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine fans.

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Speaker 2: I hope be with us before midday to give us

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Speaker 2: the expectations for the festival who he is most looking

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Speaker 2: forward to as well before eleven o'clock on news talks,

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Speaker 2: he'd be We're in the garden next up. There's some

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Speaker 2: big changes are coming to Google Maps. I'm a Google

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01:02:21,093 --> 01:02:23,133
Speaker 2: Maps guy, I'm not an Apple Maps guy, so I'm

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Speaker 2: a little bit anxious about anything involving that word change.

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Speaker 2: But we will tell you what to expect very shortly,

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Speaker 2: the headlines and the hard questions.

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Speaker 3: It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 19: The idea of Carlos Days has once again been floated

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Speaker 19: as a way to deal with the oil issues. Nicola Willis,

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Speaker 19: Finance Minister, is with us. Are you walking a fine

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Speaker 19: line between reality and panicking people with this sort of talk?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, because right now we have guys where the fuels supply,

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Speaker 20: but we do need to be proactively thinking heat. I

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Speaker 20: want to be clear, though we've published a national fuel plan,

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Speaker 20: it has even phases the extreme de non management tool

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Speaker 20: of Carlos.

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Speaker 11: Davis right at the end. We're only in phase.

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Speaker 5: One at the moment.

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Speaker 19: None of this is going to happen as if you

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Speaker 19: won't say, but I will, this thing's over in a

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Speaker 19: couple of weeks. I'm absolutely convinced me.

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Speaker 11: Well, I personally want it to be back.

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Speaker 19: Monday from six am The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Mayley's

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Speaker 19: Real Estate News Talk ZB twenty two.

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Speaker 2: To eleven on News Talk s EDB. Google Maps is

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Speaker 2: getting a new look. It's biggest update in more than

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Speaker 2: ten years. Our textbook Paul Stenhouse is here with the details.

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Speaker 2: What is happening to one of my favorite apps.

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Speaker 13: It's okay, it's only going to be when you're driving

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Speaker 13: or when you're in this navigation mode.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean that's quite a critical time, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: It is, Well, that's why it's good.

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Speaker 13: So that's why they've made the updates. Because you know,

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Speaker 13: if you if you don't have the navigation turned on

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01:03:43,773 --> 01:03:46,453
Speaker 13: and someone is just looking at the dot moving down

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Speaker 13: the road and not telling you to turn left or

1203
01:03:48,493 --> 01:03:51,733
Speaker 13: right you're supposed to be doing, that's a disaster, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: That's a relationship over just instantly. So they have made

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Speaker 13: some really big changes. They've used AO. Of course, they

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01:04:00,173 --> 01:04:03,493
Speaker 13: have to create some really cool imagery that takes their

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Speaker 13: information from street view and their information from satellites and

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Speaker 13: turn it into what kind of looks like a video game.

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01:04:12,613 --> 01:04:14,813
Speaker 13: And if you've ever seen a Tesla when it's driving,

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Speaker 13: it kind of is the same thing. It's got the

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Speaker 13: car in the middle of the screen and it will

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Speaker 13: show you the road and then it will show you

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Speaker 13: the buildings and the pedestrian crossings and the traffic lights

1214
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Speaker 13: and the stop signs, all kind of like around your car.

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Speaker 13: So it's pretty neat. It zooms in and zooms out,

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Speaker 13: as it kind of needs to. So if you're on

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Speaker 13: the highway, it will just zoom out, and then when

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Speaker 13: you're getting close to the exits, it will zoom on

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Speaker 13: in so you can find your exit. I think it

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Speaker 13: sounds pretty neat. It looks pretty neat. Haven't had the

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Speaker 13: chance to try it yet. It's launching in the US first,

1222
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Speaker 13: so it's rolling out here today and then we'll be

1223
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Speaker 13: coming rest of the world. iOS, Android car Play, Android Auto,

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Speaker 13: all of those places where you use Google Maps.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So theoretically it should make when you're in

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Speaker 2: the navigation mode, so you say where I'm going and

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Speaker 2: you hit start, it should make that like finding getting

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Speaker 2: the right exit, making the right turn just a little

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Speaker 2: bit easier, right, that's the goal, that's the theory. Yeah, okay, yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, famously, we all love change, especially

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Speaker 2: on Saturday morning. I'm sure we're going to lean into that,

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Speaker 2: but no, I can't. I'm interested to see how that's

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Speaker 2: going to go down. Hey, a surprise reversal from Meta,

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Speaker 2: the company which owns Facebook and Instagram. Instagram chats are

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Speaker 2: no longer going to be encrypted.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so from May eighth, an alert popped up in

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Speaker 13: the app. You might have seen it if you use Instagram,

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Speaker 13: Instagram Chats, Instagram Messenger. I don't know what it's called

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Speaker 13: direct messages, but it says that you'll need to download

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Speaker 13: your chats before May eight, otherwise I assume you're going

1241
01:05:52,333 --> 01:05:55,773
Speaker 13: to lose them or they'll be deleted by Meta. Now

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01:05:55,813 --> 01:06:00,413
Speaker 13: Meta had not really said why this was. They've since

1243
01:06:00,453 --> 01:06:03,813
Speaker 13: put out a statement and said it's because very few

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01:06:03,933 --> 01:06:07,893
Speaker 13: users were using it, so that's why they've decided to

1245
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Speaker 13: get rid of it. But it's an interesting decision for

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Speaker 13: a number of reasons. One WhatsApp, who they bought and

1247
01:06:14,893 --> 01:06:19,933
Speaker 13: also own and run, that sort of has privacy and

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Speaker 13: an encryption at its core, right, So that's that's been

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01:06:23,493 --> 01:06:28,093
Speaker 13: really important to WhatsApp. Messenger in twenty twenty three got

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01:06:28,213 --> 01:06:32,213
Speaker 13: encrypted messages end to end by default, so you have

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Speaker 13: to turn that on. So Instagram got around the same time.

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Speaker 13: It's just so weird that you would then say, of

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Speaker 13: the three products we have that do messages, Instagram will

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Speaker 13: no longer be encrypted. I just found that a little strange.

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Speaker 13: Now they are kind of you know, there's certainly the

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Speaker 13: two camps of right encryption good, good for privacy. On

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Speaker 13: the flip side, it is, you know, the common concern

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01:06:57,253 --> 01:07:01,173
Speaker 13: is that it's bad for things like you know, abuse,

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Speaker 13: and it's bad for things like child pornography, and it's

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Speaker 13: bad for things like terrorism because the authorities and the

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Speaker 13: platforms can't see anything it's encrypted into.

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Speaker 15: End, it's the whole point.

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Speaker 2: Point.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's the whole point.

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Speaker 13: But obviously that leads to issue. So there are some

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Speaker 13: laws going through or have been passed in the UK

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Speaker 13: and the EU that maybe this is to do with.

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Speaker 13: But again it's just strange that it's happening on Instagram

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Speaker 13: but not whats happened the messenger?

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, Hey, thank you very much, Paul.

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Speaker 13: Maybe it's a wait and see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, thank you very much. Paul Stenhouse is our

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Speaker 2: text bird of course after eleven o'clock on News Talks here,

1274
01:07:37,453 --> 01:07:38,853
Speaker 2: but we've got our book picks for the week. There

1275
01:07:38,893 --> 01:07:41,813
Speaker 2: is a book I love the sound of It's a

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01:07:41,853 --> 01:07:46,133
Speaker 2: biography about Rasputin, but one very unlike any of you

1277
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Speaker 2: might have come across before, one of history's most extraordinary characters.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you more about that after

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock make sure you hang around for that. Right now.

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Speaker 2: It is eighteen to eleven. Our personal finance expert is

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01:07:59,093 --> 01:08:02,693
Speaker 2: in next with a big question, can you save too much?

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Speaker 7: No better way to kick off?

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Speaker 1: You can't then with Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: News Talk ZV.

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Speaker 2: This morning on you Talk ZIBE, we've been talking about

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Speaker 2: cycling as a way to get a bit of exercise,

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01:08:18,693 --> 01:08:21,973
Speaker 2: as a way to get to your destination, maybe slightly

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01:08:22,053 --> 01:08:24,813
Speaker 2: faster if the traffic can be bad at your place,

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01:08:24,853 --> 01:08:27,013
Speaker 2: but also as a way of saving a few bucks

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Speaker 2: on petrol. Jory sent me a note to say Jack,

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Speaker 2: e bikes involved plenty of peddling. Whoever it was who

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Speaker 2: texted you earlier this morning obviously doesn't understand it. In

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01:08:35,173 --> 01:08:37,853
Speaker 2: order to ride an e bike you have to peddle.

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Speaker 2: It just assists you. I love my e bike, best

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Speaker 2: purchase ever. Thank you very much for that. Lisa Dudson,

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Speaker 2: our personal finance expert, in this morning with a big question,

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Speaker 2: can you save too much? Good morning Lisa, Good morning Jack.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Very well? Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's a funny question because usually we think of people

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01:08:54,453 --> 01:08:57,413
Speaker 2: not saving nearly enough, but actually there are some who

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01:08:57,453 --> 01:08:59,493
Speaker 2: take it too far. In the opposite direction.

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Speaker 21: Yes, absolutely, And to be said, most of my career respent,

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01:09:04,053 --> 01:09:06,773
Speaker 21: I'm hustling people along to save more. But I've had

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01:09:07,133 --> 01:09:10,933
Speaker 21: a couple of instances where people have been very very

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01:09:10,973 --> 01:09:13,773
Speaker 21: careful about how they've saved, and it's manifesting a couple

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01:09:13,773 --> 01:09:15,853
Speaker 21: of ways. So one, I've seen a group of people

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Speaker 21: that have saved super super hard, worked really hard as

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Speaker 21: well in quite long hours, get to retirement and maybe

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01:09:22,013 --> 01:09:24,693
Speaker 21: an early retirement, and then they go, great, we've got

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Speaker 21: a great amount of savings with me tire a little

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Speaker 21: bit early. And then they go, now what because they've

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Speaker 21: spent their life been so careful with money that they

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01:09:31,613 --> 01:09:32,653
Speaker 21: haven't spent a lot of money on.

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Speaker 11: Messily.

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01:09:34,813 --> 01:09:38,013
Speaker 21: Sometimes family experiences hobbies and they don't know what to

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01:09:38,053 --> 01:09:39,533
Speaker 21: do with themselves. And you know, I've had a couple

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01:09:39,533 --> 01:09:43,013
Speaker 21: of situations with men in particular, who's the wives says,

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Speaker 21: you know a lot, honey, you've been home, you know,

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01:09:44,973 --> 01:09:46,973
Speaker 21: you've retired through weeks and we don't find something to do.

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Speaker 21: We're going to get divorced because with you driving me

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Speaker 21: nuts around the house all day underneath my feet, so

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Speaker 21: you know, you see it. But al though you know

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Speaker 21: those situations. The other thing that I've seen more young

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Speaker 21: people on the opposite side is the fire movement, which

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Speaker 21: is you have you come across.

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I have. I follow a couple of fire blogs.

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Speaker 2: So this is basically people who work really hard, save

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Speaker 2: heeps young and try and retire early.

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Speaker 21: Right, yes, absolutely, so it's financial independence, retire early, and

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01:10:16,213 --> 01:10:18,293
Speaker 21: so you know a lot of people are super super

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Speaker 21: careful with their money, like I've said, examples at the

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Speaker 21: extreme examples where you know they'll soak their shavers in

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Speaker 21: olive oil because they'll last twice as long. And you know,

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Speaker 21: I mean, you know, they're going to recycling botex to

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Speaker 21: buy clothes, which I think is a really good thing

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Speaker 21: for the environment and for your pocket.

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Speaker 11: But they're doing it so doing it really really tough.

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Speaker 21: And they might have enough money that they retire in

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01:10:39,493 --> 01:10:43,413
Speaker 21: their you know, midsdooties or even mid forties, like quite young.

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Speaker 21: But then what they're finding is that they've got just

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Speaker 21: enough to retire. But now they've got all this time,

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01:10:50,613 --> 01:10:53,853
Speaker 21: their friends are still working and they've got time, so

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Speaker 21: they want to do hobbies and they go, well, we've

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Speaker 21: got enough to cover our bills, but we don't actually

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Speaker 21: have any money to travel or do a lot of

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Speaker 21: these hobbies and then they kind of go, hmm, it

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Speaker 21: kind of didn't work out the way that I expected.

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Speaker 21: They've come across that quite a lot, have you.

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Speaker 2: Come across that. That's interesting. So the people have actually

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Speaker 2: kind of the thought that achieving the dream and I mean,

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01:11:12,373 --> 01:11:15,333
Speaker 2: it's an amazing thing to be able to you know, get

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01:11:15,333 --> 01:11:18,533
Speaker 2: to that get to that point. But actually they've realized that.

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Speaker 2: I personally think that maybe having having a bit of work,

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Speaker 2: and I am a bit of a workaholic, but it's

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Speaker 2: it's quite nice to have that purpose in your life.

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Speaker 11: That and that's there in life.

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Speaker 21: The challenge, and that's what I found with a lot

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Speaker 21: of people is partly, you know, they've got no one

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Speaker 21: to play.

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Speaker 11: With because mostly friends are still working.

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Speaker 21: And then they go out and the okay, well I

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01:11:34,733 --> 01:11:36,893
Speaker 21: want to go fishing, and once I've done six months

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01:11:36,933 --> 01:11:38,333
Speaker 21: of fishing couple days a week, they're going to go

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Speaker 21: well onmin a bit over that.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm a board of doing that.

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Speaker 21: So and I think having a purpose in life is

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Speaker 21: super super important, and it's trying to find a balance

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Speaker 21: between you know, what you're safe for now and what

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Speaker 21: your saying has been today and what your same has

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Speaker 21: been for the future, because saving essentially matters, but so

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Speaker 21: does live, right.

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Speaker 11: So you don't want to put off too much living.

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Speaker 11: But on the other side of.

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Speaker 21: You don't want to have too much living today and

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Speaker 21: then have no.

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Speaker 11: Living in the future because you've got no money.

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Speaker 21: So you really want to a reasonable balance of both things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, be able to strike a happy media maye. That

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Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense, actually, and sometimes people just

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01:12:14,133 --> 01:12:15,453
Speaker 2: need a weep bit of a nudge either way.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 21: And I think putting goals in place too, you know,

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Speaker 21: I like sadings thinking about emergency saving. So car breaks down,

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Speaker 21: you've got a bit of money short term, which are

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Speaker 21: things like going on holiday, medium term house deposit, long

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Speaker 21: term retirement.

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Speaker 11: So I think, you know, those four buckets are quite

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Speaker 11: a good way to save.

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Speaker 21: And I love people putting goals around it, like, you know,

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Speaker 21: specific purposes for saving, because I think when you have

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Speaker 21: a specific purpose.

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Speaker 3: Save Yeah, yeah, totally.

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Speaker 21: And that's what it's about at the end of the

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Speaker 21: day's motivation.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, very good, Hey, thank you, Lisa, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Personal finance expert Lisa Dudson with us this morning. It's

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Speaker 2: just coming up to ten to eleven. Non news stalks,

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01:12:54,973 --> 01:12:58,453
Speaker 2: it'd be we're in the garden next gardening with steel

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01:12:58,493 --> 01:13:02,413
Speaker 2: sharp autumn deals on tools, builth right, real climb passer

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Speaker 2: man in the garden.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, A very good morning to you, Jack, coming

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Speaker 4: to you from girl who or a pack? How good

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01:13:09,653 --> 01:13:09,813
Speaker 4: is that?

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Speaker 2: And oh how good You've been in the ones for

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01:13:12,973 --> 01:13:13,733
Speaker 2: a few days, have you?

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Speaker 4: Yep? I've been here most of most of the week,

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Speaker 4: mostly with school kids.

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Speaker 11: And all that.

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01:13:18,693 --> 01:13:22,853
Speaker 4: And today between ten and one it's the locals that

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01:13:22,973 --> 01:13:25,453
Speaker 4: can come and see us and cut all my weather

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01:13:25,693 --> 01:13:28,173
Speaker 4: and and my oh my am I frog. I've got

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Speaker 4: a live frog with me.

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01:13:29,773 --> 01:13:30,853
Speaker 2: You're traveling with a frog?

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01:13:31,573 --> 01:13:31,773
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:13:31,813 --> 01:13:32,093
Speaker 4: Why not?

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01:13:32,933 --> 01:13:37,373
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess it depends how you travel with them,

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01:13:37,373 --> 01:13:39,093
Speaker 2: but yeah, you're just got to keep a close on them.

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01:13:39,213 --> 01:13:41,093
Speaker 2: How big is your frog? Is it a New Zealand frog?

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01:13:41,693 --> 01:13:46,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's just Australian. But it's full grown. It's nice. Yeah,

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01:13:46,453 --> 01:13:48,613
Speaker 4: And we get it to walk around in the and

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01:13:48,693 --> 01:13:52,333
Speaker 4: all the kids try to dig.

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01:13:52,133 --> 01:13:54,653
Speaker 2: And the frog and the water get along.

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01:13:55,453 --> 01:14:00,413
Speaker 4: Oh certain they do. Oh yeah lovely. But that's not

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01:14:00,453 --> 01:14:01,773
Speaker 4: what I was going to talk about I was going

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01:14:01,773 --> 01:14:04,493
Speaker 4: to talk about the fact we finally got some some

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01:14:04,573 --> 01:14:07,493
Speaker 4: black field crickets really make a noise. Did you notice

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01:14:07,493 --> 01:14:08,093
Speaker 4: that at night?

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01:14:08,333 --> 01:14:08,533
Speaker 3: Oh?

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01:14:08,693 --> 01:14:11,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, they It feels like they're kind of late in

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01:14:11,253 --> 01:14:13,933
Speaker 2: the year. Is that Is that weird? Am I wrong?

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01:14:13,973 --> 01:14:14,213
Speaker 11: There?

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01:14:14,253 --> 01:14:16,093
Speaker 2: Am I late in the season for the cricket?

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01:14:16,853 --> 01:14:19,653
Speaker 4: No, they normally get here at this time of the year, right, Okay,

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01:14:20,293 --> 01:14:22,893
Speaker 4: the cicadas are getting bit slow. We've had a fabulous

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01:14:22,973 --> 01:14:25,853
Speaker 4: year of cicado so far. But I thought about talking

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01:14:25,853 --> 01:14:27,933
Speaker 4: about the backfield crickets because they can do a bit

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01:14:27,973 --> 01:14:31,373
Speaker 4: of damage in the garden too. And yeah, and that's

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01:14:31,573 --> 01:14:34,293
Speaker 4: that's about. So they're actually having a go and talking

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01:14:34,333 --> 01:14:35,973
Speaker 4: to their friends and all that sort of stuff and

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01:14:36,013 --> 01:14:38,533
Speaker 4: doing the mating for the next lot. But the way

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01:14:38,573 --> 01:14:41,773
Speaker 4: to control them is a bit is actually quite funny,

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01:14:42,253 --> 01:14:46,053
Speaker 4: because these things live in little holes in the ground

1446
01:14:46,293 --> 01:14:49,253
Speaker 4: during the day, you know, on your lawn if you like.

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01:14:49,293 --> 01:14:53,213
Speaker 4: They made little holes all out of the place, right, yeah.

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01:14:52,773 --> 01:14:55,453
Speaker 4: And what you then can do is very simple. You

1449
01:14:56,373 --> 01:14:59,853
Speaker 4: pour some hot water with good dish of dish washing

1450
01:14:59,893 --> 01:15:04,013
Speaker 4: liquid in it. The dish washing liquid gets their eyes

1451
01:15:04,133 --> 01:15:08,533
Speaker 4: very sore and they go like holy and they come

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01:15:08,573 --> 01:15:10,733
Speaker 4: out of their hole on the top and if you've

1453
01:15:10,733 --> 01:15:14,133
Speaker 4: got a good day with some that hot air and

1454
01:15:14,173 --> 01:15:19,213
Speaker 4: the hots, you know, raised from the sun, basically fry

1455
01:15:19,253 --> 01:15:23,533
Speaker 4: them to stuffery. It's so that is a really cool

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01:15:23,573 --> 01:15:25,853
Speaker 4: way of getting a bit of black Field crickets.

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01:15:26,133 --> 01:15:31,973
Speaker 2: It's sounds a bit rough for them, those medieval almost right.

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01:15:32,653 --> 01:15:37,973
Speaker 4: Sorry, mate, they're they shouldn't be there. So microwave oven

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01:15:38,493 --> 01:15:40,293
Speaker 4: and the other thing, and that's much more fun for

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01:15:40,373 --> 01:15:43,093
Speaker 4: the kids to see the singer that Katie did, which

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01:15:43,133 --> 01:15:46,413
Speaker 4: is in the afternoon and evening. It's beautiful noisy thing

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01:15:46,413 --> 01:15:48,973
Speaker 4: and it rubs the edges up, its wings together and

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01:15:48,973 --> 01:15:51,053
Speaker 4: it does all that sort of stuff. And then when

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01:15:51,093 --> 01:15:54,493
Speaker 4: you finally find that the kids got Kati did it,

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01:15:54,933 --> 01:15:58,373
Speaker 4: that's Katie did it. And that's basically what it is. Really.

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01:15:58,413 --> 01:16:01,493
Speaker 4: They like ventriloquism because you can't find them unless you

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01:16:01,533 --> 01:16:04,293
Speaker 4: know where they are. But because they can, they can

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01:16:04,453 --> 01:16:07,533
Speaker 4: throw their voice hard to find. The kids found it

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01:16:07,693 --> 01:16:11,053
Speaker 4: lovely to try and find them out ventriloquism. That's great and.

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01:16:11,253 --> 01:16:14,013
Speaker 2: Keep yeah, yeah, so that there's the green. They're almost

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01:16:14,053 --> 01:16:16,213
Speaker 2: grasshopper like a Katie did, yes.

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01:16:16,093 --> 01:16:18,733
Speaker 4: Exactly, and they're beautiful things.

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01:16:18,973 --> 01:16:19,533
Speaker 15: Yeah, very good.

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01:16:19,773 --> 01:16:23,893
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just giving you sort of a semi regular updates.

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01:16:24,053 --> 01:16:26,813
Speaker 2: The pomegranate is still attached to the pomegranate tree, so

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01:16:26,893 --> 01:16:27,493
Speaker 2: that's good news.

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01:16:28,093 --> 01:16:28,213
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:16:28,453 --> 01:16:30,693
Speaker 2: And I've just got to I've got to try and

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01:16:30,733 --> 01:16:32,893
Speaker 2: work out exactly when to pick it. It's too early

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01:16:32,973 --> 01:16:35,973
Speaker 2: just yet, it's too early, just it's not quite red enough.

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01:16:36,013 --> 01:16:38,133
Speaker 2: But maybe we can do some research and try and

1482
01:16:38,253 --> 01:16:40,493
Speaker 2: try and get a good huge because I'm not sure

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01:16:40,773 --> 01:16:43,453
Speaker 2: if it's you know, if it's going to remain warm

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01:16:43,573 --> 01:16:48,173
Speaker 2: enough in Auckland for it for for it to sort

1485
01:16:48,173 --> 01:16:50,453
Speaker 2: of ripeno the to the appropriately all like it wood

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01:16:50,493 --> 01:16:52,413
Speaker 2: in the Middle East. But maybe it will. I'm not

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01:16:52,453 --> 01:16:52,973
Speaker 2: too sure.

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01:16:53,653 --> 01:16:56,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, as will. I'm quite sure it will because I've

1489
01:16:56,853 --> 01:16:59,613
Speaker 4: heard from other people that that that can happen. It

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01:16:59,653 --> 01:17:01,973
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be that hop because most of the

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01:17:01,973 --> 01:17:05,533
Speaker 4: growths has already taken place. Yeah, now it's not finally

1492
01:17:05,573 --> 01:17:07,693
Speaker 4: soothling it out, but I'll have a look at that,

1493
01:17:07,853 --> 01:17:09,773
Speaker 4: because I think you can feel as when you touched

1494
01:17:09,813 --> 01:17:13,653
Speaker 4: them that becomes you can easily pinch him a bit. Yeah,

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01:17:13,733 --> 01:17:14,933
Speaker 4: I mean, is it.

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Speaker 2: Really It's got a really robust stork. So the stork

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01:17:18,333 --> 01:17:20,453
Speaker 2: connecting the pomegranate to the tree is almost like a

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01:17:20,493 --> 01:17:23,813
Speaker 2: branch in itself. It's really thick, and so I don't

1499
01:17:23,813 --> 01:17:25,493
Speaker 2: think you would rip it off like you would, you know,

1500
01:17:25,533 --> 01:17:28,453
Speaker 2: a plum more a lemon or something like that. But

1501
01:17:29,213 --> 01:17:31,893
Speaker 2: I yeah, but I want to make sure that I

1502
01:17:31,973 --> 01:17:34,453
Speaker 2: pick at it exactly the right time because there is

1503
01:17:34,493 --> 01:17:36,733
Speaker 2: a lot of expectation on this pomegran There's been a

1504
01:17:36,733 --> 01:17:37,413
Speaker 2: lot of high.

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01:17:39,333 --> 01:17:41,453
Speaker 4: And I'm going to put the pressure on my favorite,

1506
01:17:41,733 --> 01:17:44,373
Speaker 4: my favorite helper, Julie, who was in the one of

1507
01:17:44,413 --> 01:17:46,893
Speaker 4: those thorse gardeners people that knows everything, you know.

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01:17:46,853 --> 01:17:49,493
Speaker 2: What, I'm perfect. Yeah, yeah, that sounds great. Hey, thank

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01:17:49,533 --> 01:17:52,253
Speaker 2: you so much. Travel home safe. We'll catch you very soon.

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01:17:53,173 --> 01:17:53,693
Speaker 4: Bye bye.

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01:17:53,933 --> 01:17:56,373
Speaker 2: There there's route time passed in the garden for us,

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01:17:56,413 --> 01:17:59,173
Speaker 2: almost news time on news storksz'd be after eleven o'clock.

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01:17:59,493 --> 01:18:02,093
Speaker 2: We're going to take you to home ground Massive Weekend

1514
01:18:02,173 --> 01:18:04,293
Speaker 2: and the tron Big Weekend and toduing it as well

1515
01:18:04,293 --> 01:18:06,333
Speaker 2: in our travel segment will give you some top take

1516
01:18:06,653 --> 01:18:10,693
Speaker 2: on toting his best bites and sights, and a sustainability

1517
01:18:10,733 --> 01:18:14,573
Speaker 2: expert will tell us about sustainability in the bedroom. It's

1518
01:18:14,613 --> 01:18:16,813
Speaker 2: almost eleven news time on News Talks EDB.

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01:18:17,533 --> 01:18:21,333
Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through

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01:18:21,373 --> 01:18:23,333
Speaker 1: the weekend news Talks EDB.

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01:18:47,013 --> 01:18:47,253
Speaker 22: More.

1522
01:18:47,573 --> 01:18:49,253
Speaker 2: Inn know, if you're just joining us this morning, it

1523
01:18:49,333 --> 01:18:51,373
Speaker 2: is so good to have you here. I've been playing

1524
01:18:51,413 --> 01:18:54,373
Speaker 2: with fire since first thing this morning, since nine o'clock,

1525
01:18:54,413 --> 01:18:58,293
Speaker 2: since I walked into the studio, did my mini mini me's,

1526
01:18:58,373 --> 01:19:02,213
Speaker 2: many mini mars, many mini me's for the vocal exercises.

1527
01:19:03,693 --> 01:19:07,133
Speaker 2: I've been playing with fire because I've been advocating for cycling.

1528
01:19:07,413 --> 01:19:10,853
Speaker 2: I know, madness, isn't it absolute madness in this day

1529
01:19:10,853 --> 01:19:13,373
Speaker 2: and age. He's serious, Jack. We had the industrial Revolution

1530
01:19:14,373 --> 01:19:17,373
Speaker 2: so you could ride your bike to work. No, No,

1531
01:19:17,933 --> 01:19:21,373
Speaker 2: here's here's my theory in a nutshell. Right, My theory

1532
01:19:21,373 --> 01:19:23,693
Speaker 2: in a nutshell is that people would actually who haven't

1533
01:19:23,693 --> 01:19:26,413
Speaker 2: biked in a long time, would be surprised at how

1534
01:19:26,493 --> 01:19:29,413
Speaker 2: much they enjoyed cycling if they just cycled a little bit.

1535
01:19:29,693 --> 01:19:33,373
Speaker 2: But also that if all of us were honest, we

1536
01:19:33,493 --> 01:19:36,893
Speaker 2: would have to admit that some of the journeys we

1537
01:19:36,973 --> 01:19:39,613
Speaker 2: take in our cars we could probably do on our bikes. Now,

1538
01:19:39,693 --> 01:19:42,333
Speaker 2: that'll differ for different people, right, There'll be some people

1539
01:19:42,373 --> 01:19:44,453
Speaker 2: who say, you know, I live in the country, and

1540
01:19:44,493 --> 01:19:48,533
Speaker 2: I've got eleven children and my daily commuters four hundred

1541
01:19:48,573 --> 01:19:51,173
Speaker 2: kilometers and that's the only time I ever travel anywhere.

1542
01:19:51,213 --> 01:19:53,533
Speaker 2: And sure, cycling might not work for you, but I

1543
01:19:53,613 --> 01:19:56,933
Speaker 2: reckon that most of us, if we're totally honest, could

1544
01:19:57,053 --> 01:20:00,893
Speaker 2: do the occasional journey by bike instead of by driving.

1545
01:20:01,693 --> 01:20:03,933
Speaker 2: So heaps and heaps and heaps the messages in this morning, Jack,

1546
01:20:03,973 --> 01:20:06,933
Speaker 2: I live in the countryside. I'm a fifteen drive to

1547
01:20:06,933 --> 01:20:10,053
Speaker 2: work or a forty five minute bike ride. With the

1548
01:20:10,093 --> 01:20:13,293
Speaker 2: idea of carless days being floated by some people to

1549
01:20:13,333 --> 01:20:16,093
Speaker 2: help in a fuel crunch, well, I reckon that's going

1550
01:20:16,133 --> 01:20:18,133
Speaker 2: to screw over a lot of those working and living

1551
01:20:18,133 --> 01:20:20,413
Speaker 2: in the countryside. That actually is a very good point

1552
01:20:20,613 --> 01:20:23,093
Speaker 2: if there is some sort of a fuel crisis, And

1553
01:20:23,213 --> 01:20:25,133
Speaker 2: let's just remind everyone that at the moment, the government

1554
01:20:25,133 --> 01:20:26,973
Speaker 2: says we've got fifty days of fuel, so there's no

1555
01:20:27,173 --> 01:20:29,013
Speaker 2: need to be too concerned at the moment. But if

1556
01:20:29,053 --> 01:20:34,013
Speaker 2: there was a big crunch, hypothetically, it wouldn't necessarily be

1557
01:20:34,253 --> 01:20:36,853
Speaker 2: one that affected people evenly. You know, there are some

1558
01:20:36,853 --> 01:20:39,773
Speaker 2: people who wouldn't be that affected. There are some people

1559
01:20:39,813 --> 01:20:43,013
Speaker 2: and businesses that would be hugely affected. And obviously if

1560
01:20:43,013 --> 01:20:46,493
Speaker 2: you are in a rural community, there's a good chance

1561
01:20:46,493 --> 01:20:48,013
Speaker 2: that you would feel the pinch a whole lot more

1562
01:20:48,013 --> 01:20:50,213
Speaker 2: than others. There's person is Jack. I agree with you

1563
01:20:50,293 --> 01:20:53,013
Speaker 2: with what you said about bikes and on cutting down

1564
01:20:53,053 --> 01:20:55,373
Speaker 2: where people can on car use makes total sense as

1565
01:20:55,413 --> 01:20:58,533
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. Here's the thing. As people gets

1566
01:20:58,533 --> 01:21:00,813
Speaker 2: more expensive, this will save you money. If you can

1567
01:21:00,853 --> 01:21:03,133
Speaker 2: just take a couple of journeys on your bike you'd

1568
01:21:03,133 --> 01:21:04,773
Speaker 2: otherwise be driving. It'll save your money.

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01:21:05,293 --> 01:21:05,493
Speaker 5: Jack.

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01:21:05,573 --> 01:21:07,453
Speaker 2: I had dinner with an old friend and his Dutch

1571
01:21:07,453 --> 01:21:10,173
Speaker 2: wife who have been living in Amsterdam for thirty five years.

1572
01:21:10,373 --> 01:21:13,893
Speaker 2: Their attitude to both cars and bikes was so far

1573
01:21:14,053 --> 01:21:16,653
Speaker 2: away from ours. They would preferred ride five ks into

1574
01:21:16,693 --> 01:21:19,813
Speaker 2: town into the CBD rather than drive or bus. I

1575
01:21:19,973 --> 01:21:23,213
Speaker 2: also e bike around Auckland, and we see this tension

1576
01:21:23,253 --> 01:21:26,253
Speaker 2: a wee bit. Sometimes we come across pedestrians who often

1577
01:21:26,413 --> 01:21:28,173
Speaker 2: react with a little bit of fear when they come

1578
01:21:28,213 --> 01:21:30,933
Speaker 2: across cyclists, and the sheard parts hello, please walk on

1579
01:21:30,973 --> 01:21:33,133
Speaker 2: the left, I reckon. Actually, there's probably a bit of

1580
01:21:33,173 --> 01:21:37,213
Speaker 2: an education that can be had for everyone, whether it's pedestrians, cyclists, drivers,

1581
01:21:38,013 --> 01:21:40,293
Speaker 2: when it comes to when it comes to cycling, so

1582
01:21:40,333 --> 01:21:43,173
Speaker 2: I appreciate that S ninety two ninety two if you

1583
01:21:43,213 --> 01:21:44,933
Speaker 2: want to send us a message this morning. It is

1584
01:21:45,013 --> 01:21:48,773
Speaker 2: a massive weekend of events, so you've got Pacifica in

1585
01:21:48,853 --> 01:21:53,093
Speaker 2: christ Church and in Auckland in Western Springs. I think

1586
01:21:53,133 --> 01:21:58,133
Speaker 2: in Auckland today Christich Hagley Park absolutely fantastic, massive, massive event.

1587
01:21:58,173 --> 01:22:03,293
Speaker 2: There are Homegrown Wild Foods on the West Coast, Homegrown

1588
01:22:03,333 --> 01:22:06,653
Speaker 2: in Hamilton this weekend. And speaking of Homegrown, our music

1589
01:22:06,693 --> 01:22:11,613
Speaker 2: reviewer is heading to Homegrown alongside thirty five thousand other

1590
01:22:11,693 --> 01:22:13,653
Speaker 2: fans this weekend, so he will tell us about the

1591
01:22:13,653 --> 01:22:16,333
Speaker 2: gigs or the performances that he is most looking forward

1592
01:22:16,333 --> 01:22:19,213
Speaker 2: to a whole range of kiwacts who will be performing

1593
01:22:19,773 --> 01:22:22,133
Speaker 2: there as well as that. Beforeer day today we'll catch

1594
01:22:22,213 --> 01:22:24,733
Speaker 2: up with our book reviewer, who has two fantastic reads,

1595
01:22:24,733 --> 01:22:27,933
Speaker 2: including a book I'm really interested in about Rasputin, so

1596
01:22:27,973 --> 01:22:30,413
Speaker 2: she'll be with us shortly. Right now, it is eleven

1597
01:22:30,413 --> 01:22:34,333
Speaker 2: minutes past eleven, Jack Team, and I know it sounds

1598
01:22:34,373 --> 01:22:36,893
Speaker 2: super ex rated, but I promise it's not. We're joined

1599
01:22:36,933 --> 01:22:41,133
Speaker 2: by our sustainability commentator, Kate Hall, who's looking at sustainability

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01:22:41,173 --> 01:22:44,453
Speaker 2: in the bedroom this morning killed her good morning. You know,

1601
01:22:44,613 --> 01:22:45,973
Speaker 2: my wife and I were doing a bit of a

1602
01:22:46,373 --> 01:22:48,973
Speaker 2: spring clean over summer, which I know is slightly delayed,

1603
01:22:48,973 --> 01:22:50,533
Speaker 2: but we were doing that thing where you move the

1604
01:22:50,573 --> 01:22:52,613
Speaker 2: bed and you get under with the vacuum cleaner and

1605
01:22:52,653 --> 01:22:54,573
Speaker 2: make sure that every little bit of dust has been

1606
01:22:54,613 --> 01:22:56,973
Speaker 2: picked up in the bedroom. And she was like, oh, well,

1607
01:22:56,973 --> 01:22:59,813
Speaker 2: we're we're gonna have to replace the mattress sometimes soon

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01:22:59,893 --> 01:23:01,573
Speaker 2: because it's like six or seven years old. And I

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01:23:01,573 --> 01:23:04,213
Speaker 2: was like, oh, is that a thing, and it's a

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01:23:04,213 --> 01:23:06,133
Speaker 2: good quality mattress and she was like, yeah, it's definitely

1611
01:23:06,173 --> 01:23:07,973
Speaker 2: a thing you've got to You've got to replace your mattress.

1612
01:23:08,293 --> 01:23:12,093
Speaker 2: But this morning you are taking my wife to task.

1613
01:23:12,173 --> 01:23:14,493
Speaker 2: You have tips on being more sustainable in the bedroom.

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01:23:15,013 --> 01:23:17,533
Speaker 23: Yes, I do, I do. I know exactly we should

1615
01:23:17,533 --> 01:23:21,613
Speaker 23: get your mattress. Actually, okay, we'll start there with mattresses,

1616
01:23:21,613 --> 01:23:23,173
Speaker 23: because there's a lot of different things we can do

1617
01:23:23,413 --> 01:23:27,453
Speaker 23: in the dead droom to be more sustainable. Comfy is

1618
01:23:27,453 --> 01:23:30,693
Speaker 23: a really great New Zealand brand and they actually, you know,

1619
01:23:30,933 --> 01:23:32,373
Speaker 23: like you said, when you look at your mattress and

1620
01:23:32,373 --> 01:23:34,893
Speaker 23: you're ow, it's only seven or eight years old, you know,

1621
01:23:35,293 --> 01:23:36,733
Speaker 23: is that mattress going to go. We're not just going

1622
01:23:36,813 --> 01:23:38,373
Speaker 23: to throw it in the in the tip? Are we

1623
01:23:39,093 --> 01:23:42,333
Speaker 23: company actually take the mattress. They partner with all the

1624
01:23:42,373 --> 01:23:45,213
Speaker 23: heart end z and they take it from you when

1625
01:23:45,213 --> 01:23:47,733
Speaker 23: they're dropping new one off. You can organize to that.

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01:23:47,853 --> 01:23:52,613
Speaker 23: And it means that they can reuse the mattress, take

1627
01:23:52,653 --> 01:23:54,613
Speaker 23: it apart if they need to, or give it to

1628
01:23:54,653 --> 01:23:55,253
Speaker 23: a better home.

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01:23:55,413 --> 01:23:58,373
Speaker 2: Oh cool, okay, so they even if your previous mattress

1630
01:23:58,413 --> 01:24:00,773
Speaker 2: isn't a company mattress, they do that. Yes, yep, Oh

1631
01:24:00,813 --> 01:24:01,213
Speaker 2: that's good.

1632
01:24:01,493 --> 01:24:04,613
Speaker 23: So we just got a new company mattress. It's awesome.

1633
01:24:05,053 --> 01:24:09,093
Speaker 23: They have a showroom in Auckland, and yeah, it's it's

1634
01:24:09,093 --> 01:24:11,613
Speaker 23: a great system because I mean a mattress you kind

1635
01:24:11,653 --> 01:24:13,213
Speaker 23: of you don't know what to do with it. It's

1636
01:24:13,253 --> 01:24:18,013
Speaker 23: a big, huge, huge thing. And yeah, it get gets

1637
01:24:18,013 --> 01:24:18,493
Speaker 23: a new hunt.

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01:24:18,693 --> 01:24:22,013
Speaker 2: And as the name would imply, are they indeed comfy?

1639
01:24:22,533 --> 01:24:25,533
Speaker 23: They are comfy, very comfy. I mean it's different obviously,

1640
01:24:25,853 --> 01:24:27,453
Speaker 23: I don't know if you're a soft.

1641
01:24:27,653 --> 01:24:29,693
Speaker 2: Or I like a firm mattress.

1642
01:24:29,773 --> 01:24:32,733
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I've got that. They've got

1643
01:24:32,733 --> 01:24:33,933
Speaker 23: that for you very good.

1644
01:24:34,253 --> 01:24:36,293
Speaker 2: Should you be rotating your mattress? Is that a thing?

1645
01:24:36,453 --> 01:24:36,693
Speaker 4: Yes?

1646
01:24:37,013 --> 01:24:40,293
Speaker 23: Absolutely, you know when we talk about looking after things

1647
01:24:40,333 --> 01:24:43,693
Speaker 23: well with your mattress one hundred percent. We've only had

1648
01:24:43,813 --> 01:24:46,693
Speaker 23: our new mattress for a couple of months now, but

1649
01:24:46,693 --> 01:24:50,693
Speaker 23: we've already rotated it. So oh ok, we're trying to

1650
01:24:50,693 --> 01:24:52,413
Speaker 23: get onto that with this new mattress.

1651
01:24:52,813 --> 01:24:54,333
Speaker 2: How often are you going to do it?

1652
01:24:55,653 --> 01:24:57,253
Speaker 23: I think we're going to do it every couple of months.

1653
01:24:57,373 --> 01:24:57,653
Speaker 3: Wow.

1654
01:24:57,773 --> 01:24:59,933
Speaker 2: And so like you flip it, you totally flip it,

1655
01:24:59,933 --> 01:25:02,693
Speaker 2: You're not just like spinning it, right, Oh, we spin.

1656
01:25:02,533 --> 01:25:05,733
Speaker 23: It because obviously it's got like a top and a bottom. Yeah, yeah,

1657
01:25:05,733 --> 01:25:06,373
Speaker 23: a top and a bottom.

1658
01:25:06,413 --> 01:25:08,933
Speaker 2: And so just when you when you, does that mean

1659
01:25:08,933 --> 01:25:10,933
Speaker 2: that you and your husband like you just end up

1660
01:25:11,253 --> 01:25:12,173
Speaker 2: sleeping in their groove?

1661
01:25:13,133 --> 01:25:13,373
Speaker 23: Yes?

1662
01:25:13,653 --> 01:25:16,413
Speaker 2: Right, but it's bitter to be sleeping in their groove

1663
01:25:16,453 --> 01:25:19,253
Speaker 2: than to be sleeping solely in your groove because presumably.

1664
01:25:18,853 --> 01:25:21,373
Speaker 23: Yeah yeah, well, and I mean term is like much heavier.

1665
01:25:21,413 --> 01:25:23,053
Speaker 23: He always has a bigger groove.

1666
01:25:23,133 --> 01:25:26,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, yeah, yeah, it's for him as much as

1667
01:25:26,773 --> 01:25:31,453
Speaker 2: E think. Okay, so that's the mattress. What about the sheets?

1668
01:25:31,453 --> 01:25:32,813
Speaker 2: What should be doing for sheets?

1669
01:25:33,013 --> 01:25:36,853
Speaker 23: So sheets aiming for cotton, linen or hemp, I mean,

1670
01:25:36,893 --> 01:25:38,893
Speaker 23: all of those are quite a different feel, So it

1671
01:25:38,893 --> 01:25:44,213
Speaker 23: really depends on yeah, what what your preferences. There's even

1672
01:25:44,253 --> 01:25:46,813
Speaker 23: some bamboo sheets which are really nice, but just the

1673
01:25:46,933 --> 01:25:50,613
Speaker 23: natural fiber over synthetics is what you're aiming for. Wing possible.

1674
01:25:50,653 --> 01:25:51,933
Speaker 2: How do you clean them?

1675
01:25:52,253 --> 01:25:56,533
Speaker 23: So we wash outs in cold water, I mean anything

1676
01:25:56,973 --> 01:25:59,493
Speaker 23: thirty degrees or lo It is good just for the

1677
01:25:59,693 --> 01:26:01,893
Speaker 23: longevity and they only need to be washed in cold

1678
01:26:01,893 --> 01:26:04,853
Speaker 23: water and a dying them on the line. It's great.

1679
01:26:04,853 --> 01:26:06,293
Speaker 23: I think we're pretty good at that in New zeal

1680
01:26:06,693 --> 01:26:09,613
Speaker 23: Ear drying rather than dryers. I think in some parts

1681
01:26:09,613 --> 01:26:13,333
Speaker 23: of the world having a dryer is just like a given. Yes,

1682
01:26:14,013 --> 01:26:16,093
Speaker 23: I think we're pretty pretty good over here. I'd like

1683
01:26:16,133 --> 01:26:16,373
Speaker 23: to think.

1684
01:26:16,613 --> 01:26:18,173
Speaker 2: I know, I know some people who think that, like

1685
01:26:18,453 --> 01:26:20,333
Speaker 2: because it makes them really crispy, and they don't like

1686
01:26:20,373 --> 01:26:22,733
Speaker 2: that feeling, and they don't like it with their towels especially,

1687
01:26:23,013 --> 01:26:24,853
Speaker 2: But they ear dry them and then they just put

1688
01:26:24,853 --> 01:26:27,373
Speaker 2: them in the dry for like a couple of minutes, okay,

1689
01:26:27,453 --> 01:26:30,133
Speaker 2: just to give because then it gives them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1690
01:26:30,133 --> 01:26:31,893
Speaker 2: which is which is a good way to kind of

1691
01:26:31,893 --> 01:26:32,253
Speaker 2: do things.

1692
01:26:32,253 --> 01:26:32,693
Speaker 23: Makes sense.

1693
01:26:32,773 --> 01:26:35,253
Speaker 2: I always think too, like when you're if you're drying

1694
01:26:35,253 --> 01:26:39,013
Speaker 2: it outside and it's proper, properly sunny. You just you

1695
01:26:39,173 --> 01:26:41,453
Speaker 2: know that it's you know that it's good. You know,

1696
01:26:41,493 --> 01:26:43,693
Speaker 2: you know that it's dry, and you know that everything's

1697
01:26:43,773 --> 01:26:46,453
Speaker 2: kind of there's no bacteria left, like there's.

1698
01:26:46,253 --> 01:26:52,493
Speaker 23: Nothing uv raised, just so much wonders for Yeah.

1699
01:26:52,093 --> 01:26:55,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Okay, So so there's a you wash your sheets.

1700
01:26:55,693 --> 01:26:57,813
Speaker 2: What about the other furniture in your bedroom?

1701
01:26:58,693 --> 01:27:02,173
Speaker 23: Yep, So again second hand. I'm really grateful that our

1702
01:27:02,213 --> 01:27:04,653
Speaker 23: bed base is made by my father in law.

1703
01:27:04,453 --> 01:27:05,493
Speaker 3: Which is awful cool.

1704
01:27:05,613 --> 01:27:10,093
Speaker 23: You get to great sickenhand beard bases. Saying with you know,

1705
01:27:10,093 --> 01:27:13,333
Speaker 23: if I look around my bed drome, my dresser was

1706
01:27:13,333 --> 01:27:17,853
Speaker 23: inherited from Term's grandmother, a second hand draw from a

1707
01:27:17,893 --> 01:27:20,813
Speaker 23: neighbor who is moving house. So yeah, all of those

1708
01:27:20,853 --> 01:27:24,053
Speaker 23: types of things they can you can just get such

1709
01:27:24,133 --> 01:27:26,853
Speaker 23: good quality. There's some things so like I wouldn't recommend

1710
01:27:26,853 --> 01:27:29,333
Speaker 23: people get from a secondhand shop, you know, like even

1711
01:27:29,533 --> 01:27:33,373
Speaker 23: a beard mattress. Right, I'm like buy that new you know, villa,

1712
01:27:33,413 --> 01:27:37,653
Speaker 23: But furniture and things like that, just it's such a

1713
01:27:37,693 --> 01:27:39,733
Speaker 23: bit of quality and so much more beautiful in my

1714
01:27:39,813 --> 01:27:41,333
Speaker 23: opinion from second hand.

1715
01:27:41,773 --> 01:27:45,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, so funny you say that, I especially because there's

1716
01:27:45,093 --> 01:27:47,933
Speaker 2: so much flat pack stuff that didn't exist fifteen or

1717
01:27:47,933 --> 01:27:51,253
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, right, or yeah, at least twenty years ago.

1718
01:27:51,613 --> 01:27:54,733
Speaker 2: I recently, when we had our baby and I sort

1719
01:27:54,733 --> 01:27:56,813
Speaker 2: of could see that my space in the closet was

1720
01:27:56,853 --> 01:27:59,973
Speaker 2: being taken by someone else. I thought, oh, I need

1721
01:27:59,973 --> 01:28:02,813
Speaker 2: a new chest of drawers. But I went and bought

1722
01:28:02,933 --> 01:28:09,173
Speaker 2: a second hand chest of drawers, like beautiful, beautiful remu

1723
01:28:09,333 --> 01:28:13,173
Speaker 2: secondhand chest of draws. It's probably thirty years old but

1724
01:28:13,373 --> 01:28:16,933
Speaker 2: had been sanded down and oiled and kind of beautifully restored,

1725
01:28:17,413 --> 01:28:21,693
Speaker 2: and honestly it is the most beautiful, the single most

1726
01:28:21,813 --> 01:28:25,453
Speaker 2: beautiful piece of furniture in our house. Like I sit there,

1727
01:28:25,493 --> 01:28:27,253
Speaker 2: and I sit there and bet and look at my

1728
01:28:27,333 --> 01:28:29,413
Speaker 2: chest of drawers, and I'm like, oh my god, look

1729
01:28:29,413 --> 01:28:32,693
Speaker 2: at the grain on that. Yeah, it's gorgeous, you know,

1730
01:28:32,893 --> 01:28:35,773
Speaker 2: and so yeah, just so good, and like this is

1731
01:28:36,293 --> 01:28:39,173
Speaker 2: so much we said for like if you can having

1732
01:28:39,333 --> 01:28:43,773
Speaker 2: having like solid wood furniture, but also just like this, honestly,

1733
01:28:43,893 --> 01:28:47,333
Speaker 2: the secondhand they're just as good as new, and they

1734
01:28:47,373 --> 01:28:48,413
Speaker 2: are just such.

1735
01:28:48,853 --> 01:28:49,613
Speaker 3: A more.

1736
01:28:51,013 --> 01:28:53,493
Speaker 2: Kind of notable piece of furniture than you wouldn't.

1737
01:28:53,693 --> 01:28:55,773
Speaker 23: You wouldn't sit there and allows, oh, look at that

1738
01:28:55,973 --> 01:29:01,533
Speaker 23: grain exactly. Yeah, no one's going to comment on it.

1739
01:29:01,813 --> 01:29:06,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anyway, Okay, so you've got your natural fibers

1740
01:29:06,213 --> 01:29:08,533
Speaker 2: for your sheets and pillows and stuff. I presume the

1741
01:29:08,573 --> 01:29:10,053
Speaker 2: same thing applies for sleep well you.

1742
01:29:10,613 --> 01:29:13,213
Speaker 23: Yes, yep, if you wear it. I mean a lot

1743
01:29:13,253 --> 01:29:16,493
Speaker 23: of people don't need sleepwear. And that's apparently I heard

1744
01:29:16,533 --> 01:29:22,213
Speaker 23: a study about how that's actually better to sleep naked. Anyway, Yeah,

1745
01:29:22,413 --> 01:29:25,773
Speaker 23: I'll find that one and report back. But yeah, natural

1746
01:29:25,813 --> 01:29:29,053
Speaker 23: fibers when you're when you're sleeping, as you know, you're

1747
01:29:29,253 --> 01:29:31,653
Speaker 23: lying there for a long time. Unless you have a child,

1748
01:29:31,733 --> 01:29:36,693
Speaker 23: you're getting out quite a lot. But yeah, something that's breathable,

1749
01:29:37,493 --> 01:29:41,173
Speaker 23: like even a like marino like cotton. Yeah, there's so

1750
01:29:41,253 --> 01:29:43,773
Speaker 23: much better and more sustainable option.

1751
01:29:43,933 --> 01:29:44,613
Speaker 16: Yeah, very good.

1752
01:29:44,693 --> 01:29:46,893
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you. All of those tips will be up

1753
01:29:46,933 --> 01:29:48,533
Speaker 2: on the news talks you'd be website. You can find

1754
01:29:48,573 --> 01:29:51,893
Speaker 2: kid of course on social media by searching ethically Kate.

1755
01:29:51,933 --> 01:29:57,093
Speaker 2: See your own is Kate Hall Now sustainability expert Jack.

1756
01:29:57,333 --> 01:30:00,973
Speaker 2: Every week we turn our mattress around every time we

1757
01:30:01,093 --> 01:30:02,853
Speaker 2: wash the sheet. It's a really good way to keep

1758
01:30:02,893 --> 01:30:05,853
Speaker 2: the mattress, even says Craig Good on your cray. That's

1759
01:30:05,853 --> 01:30:08,293
Speaker 2: that's good. Yeah, I suppose, especially if you've got to

1760
01:30:08,293 --> 01:30:11,213
Speaker 2: pull the mattress out. You know how, if you've got

1761
01:30:11,213 --> 01:30:13,213
Speaker 2: a mattress and to get the fitted sheet over the mattress,

1762
01:30:13,293 --> 01:30:14,773
Speaker 2: the best way to do it is actually often to

1763
01:30:14,773 --> 01:30:16,693
Speaker 2: pull it out from the head board area. That's what

1764
01:30:16,733 --> 01:30:19,853
Speaker 2: I find anyway. Yeah, that could be a good little option,

1765
01:30:20,013 --> 01:30:23,053
Speaker 2: but that is very disciplined of you, Craig. Good morning Jack.

1766
01:30:23,133 --> 01:30:25,773
Speaker 2: I've been a cyclist for a long time. However, having

1767
01:30:25,813 --> 01:30:28,173
Speaker 2: purchased an e bike a couple of years ago, I

1768
01:30:28,213 --> 01:30:32,213
Speaker 2: have to say it has been absolutely transformational, says Carl.

1769
01:30:33,013 --> 01:30:35,413
Speaker 2: I ride it all the time. I find it really

1770
01:30:35,453 --> 01:30:37,373
Speaker 2: easy to go places. You can normally just lock it

1771
01:30:37,453 --> 01:30:40,173
Speaker 2: up directly outside places, and it's quicker than a car

1772
01:30:40,293 --> 01:30:43,573
Speaker 2: for getting to work. One of the main benefits the

1773
01:30:43,573 --> 01:30:46,733
Speaker 2: friendly greetings and interactions with other cyclists. Thank you, Carl.

1774
01:30:47,373 --> 01:30:49,453
Speaker 2: You've actually had on one of my little hacks.

1775
01:30:49,493 --> 01:30:49,693
Speaker 3: Carl.

1776
01:30:49,773 --> 01:30:53,493
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things about cycling, and I just

1777
01:30:53,493 --> 01:30:55,373
Speaker 2: feel like this is every time I do it, I

1778
01:30:55,373 --> 01:30:58,333
Speaker 2: feel like I've kind of like unlocked a secret to

1779
01:30:58,373 --> 01:31:00,293
Speaker 2: the universe, and I don't understand why other people aren't

1780
01:31:00,333 --> 01:31:05,013
Speaker 2: doing it. If I'm going to a big sports game

1781
01:31:05,693 --> 01:31:08,093
Speaker 2: or an event with tens of thousands of people. So

1782
01:31:08,133 --> 01:31:11,373
Speaker 2: if I'm going to Auckland f C at Go Media Stadium,

1783
01:31:11,773 --> 01:31:14,413
Speaker 2: it's maybe more ten or twelve k's from my house.

1784
01:31:14,973 --> 01:31:17,853
Speaker 2: I will either bike or I'll borrow my wife's e

1785
01:31:17,933 --> 01:31:24,253
Speaker 2: bike and cycle there. And you can park at the stadium,

1786
01:31:24,493 --> 01:31:28,453
Speaker 2: so unlike everyone else who's driving out there or catching

1787
01:31:28,453 --> 01:31:30,653
Speaker 2: the train or whatever, you can go straight to the

1788
01:31:30,693 --> 01:31:33,333
Speaker 2: stadium and then you can pull it right up outside

1789
01:31:33,333 --> 01:31:35,813
Speaker 2: the stadium two minutes before the game starts. And at

1790
01:31:35,853 --> 01:31:38,013
Speaker 2: the end of the game, when all the masses are

1791
01:31:38,053 --> 01:31:41,013
Speaker 2: pouring out everyone's walking to either the train station or

1792
01:31:41,013 --> 01:31:43,653
Speaker 2: the bus station or to their cars or whatever, you

1793
01:31:43,733 --> 01:31:46,853
Speaker 2: just get on your bike straight outside and you're on

1794
01:31:46,893 --> 01:31:49,013
Speaker 2: your way. I just don't understand why more people don't

1795
01:31:49,013 --> 01:31:52,773
Speaker 2: do it. Same with Edon Park, Big performance there, big

1796
01:31:52,813 --> 01:31:56,093
Speaker 2: game there, I ride my bike, pull up right outside,

1797
01:31:56,213 --> 01:31:58,693
Speaker 2: lock it up, easy as walk outside, back on the bike,

1798
01:31:58,773 --> 01:32:01,613
Speaker 2: and you're off. I don't understand why more people don't

1799
01:32:01,613 --> 01:32:04,133
Speaker 2: do it. It is so so fast. Anyway, thank you

1800
01:32:04,173 --> 01:32:05,533
Speaker 2: for that ninety two ninety two. If you want to

1801
01:32:05,533 --> 01:32:07,733
Speaker 2: see me a text like I'll did in a couple

1802
01:32:07,773 --> 01:32:10,933
Speaker 2: of minutes the best bites and sights in Toadunger. A

1803
01:32:11,053 --> 01:32:15,693
Speaker 2: travel correspondent will be here very shortly. Travel with Windy

1804
01:32:15,733 --> 01:32:19,493
Speaker 2: Woo Tours where the world is yours now Mike Yard.

1805
01:32:19,533 --> 01:32:23,973
Speaker 2: These are travel corresponding Good morning, Good morning, Jack. How

1806
01:32:24,013 --> 01:32:26,773
Speaker 2: are you feeling about this evening? Part of a bit

1807
01:32:26,813 --> 01:32:28,773
Speaker 2: of a tenth week in the Crusaders camp?

1808
01:32:28,813 --> 01:32:30,893
Speaker 7: Make Oh?

1809
01:32:30,973 --> 01:32:33,213
Speaker 22: I know, yes, I think we've all felt like I'm

1810
01:32:33,253 --> 01:32:36,773
Speaker 22: indulging in a burst of fisticuffs. I'll tell you what, Jack,

1811
01:32:36,773 --> 01:32:38,733
Speaker 22: If we can't beat the Highlanders tonight, I think we

1812
01:32:38,733 --> 01:32:39,933
Speaker 22: should take up croquet.

1813
01:32:40,413 --> 01:32:45,093
Speaker 2: No, come on, come on, the Highlands are good. They've

1814
01:32:45,133 --> 01:32:48,333
Speaker 2: been playing really good. Yeah, you don't really need to win.

1815
01:32:48,373 --> 01:32:49,333
Speaker 2: I don't really need to win.

1816
01:32:49,853 --> 01:32:50,053
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1817
01:32:50,133 --> 01:32:53,453
Speaker 2: Anyway, Hey, we are focusing on things further north this morning,

1818
01:32:53,773 --> 01:32:56,573
Speaker 2: the bites and sights that have taken your fancy in

1819
01:32:56,733 --> 01:32:59,133
Speaker 2: Toadunger and the city center is very much in make

1820
01:32:59,213 --> 01:33:01,933
Speaker 2: a makeover mode and Todunger at the moment A So,

1821
01:33:01,933 --> 01:33:02,813
Speaker 2: how's it shaping up?

1822
01:33:04,133 --> 01:33:06,013
Speaker 22: Well, it's been three years since I was last in

1823
01:33:06,053 --> 01:33:08,493
Speaker 22: total a Jack, and it's just so uplifting to see

1824
01:33:08,573 --> 01:33:11,093
Speaker 22: cranes in the sky. I just think that's always a

1825
01:33:11,133 --> 01:33:15,493
Speaker 22: really good vibe, the glossy sheen of so many brand

1826
01:33:15,613 --> 01:33:18,293
Speaker 22: new buildings in the CBD, and then you've got the

1827
01:33:18,813 --> 01:33:23,973
Speaker 22: Civic precincts wider makeover steadily taking shape. So it's all

1828
01:33:24,013 --> 01:33:29,013
Speaker 22: a colossal work in progress, but some huge improvements are

1829
01:33:29,053 --> 01:33:32,813
Speaker 22: already so apparent, Like the CPD just does not feel

1830
01:33:33,413 --> 01:33:35,973
Speaker 22: tired or neglected.

1831
01:33:35,493 --> 01:33:36,533
Speaker 7: Or tatty anymore.

1832
01:33:36,573 --> 01:33:40,293
Speaker 22: And there must be some serious mullah being invested, both

1833
01:33:40,373 --> 01:33:44,093
Speaker 22: privately and publicly. But whether you're on the Strand Waterfront

1834
01:33:44,533 --> 01:33:47,373
Speaker 22: or if you take a stroll down Devenport Road the

1835
01:33:47,413 --> 01:33:51,133
Speaker 22: main Drag, it just feels so fresh and inviting. And

1836
01:33:51,173 --> 01:33:52,933
Speaker 22: the thing that really stood out for me Jack also

1837
01:33:53,573 --> 01:33:58,373
Speaker 22: was the art. A lot of installations, you know, big sculptures, and.

1838
01:33:58,253 --> 01:34:01,093
Speaker 7: That just sort of adds to that sense of vitality.

1839
01:34:01,173 --> 01:34:02,773
Speaker 2: Oh nice. So what's recently opened?

1840
01:34:04,893 --> 01:34:07,813
Speaker 22: Yeah, well, the major public work and the Civic precinct

1841
01:34:07,853 --> 01:34:10,773
Speaker 22: will be sort of given staggered openings over the next

1842
01:34:10,773 --> 01:34:15,093
Speaker 22: two years. But the new boy in town is Toy Toadunger,

1843
01:34:15,173 --> 01:34:18,933
Speaker 22: which is the transformed art gallery that opened three months ago.

1844
01:34:19,053 --> 01:34:20,733
Speaker 22: I had a look through it a couple of weeks ago.

1845
01:34:20,773 --> 01:34:25,053
Speaker 22: It is just such a gorgeously refreshed space. The thing

1846
01:34:25,093 --> 01:34:27,693
Speaker 22: that blows you're one when you first walk in is

1847
01:34:28,373 --> 01:34:33,293
Speaker 22: this soaring cathedral like atrium gallery. So it can host

1848
01:34:33,413 --> 01:34:37,373
Speaker 22: some really big boy exhibitions. And they've got this quite

1849
01:34:37,533 --> 01:34:39,133
Speaker 22: quirky exhibition on there at the moment.

1850
01:34:39,213 --> 01:34:39,493
Speaker 7: Jack.

1851
01:34:39,893 --> 01:34:44,333
Speaker 22: It's an augmented reality exhibition delving into the origins of

1852
01:34:44,453 --> 01:34:48,013
Speaker 22: Maldi carving. And it's all been inspired by the way

1853
01:34:48,493 --> 01:34:53,533
Speaker 22: lavae burrow through wood. It sounds wacky, but with this

1854
01:34:53,933 --> 01:34:57,093
Speaker 22: ar technology they've tricked it up with it is just

1855
01:34:57,253 --> 01:34:58,293
Speaker 22: so absorbing.

1856
01:34:58,373 --> 01:34:59,653
Speaker 7: The kids love it.

1857
01:35:00,613 --> 01:35:04,453
Speaker 22: So Yeah, the city's magnificent new museum and library they

1858
01:35:04,493 --> 01:35:07,293
Speaker 22: will open and jo course, but I came thinking, gee,

1859
01:35:07,333 --> 01:35:11,373
Speaker 22: next to say, post quake christ Church in terms of

1860
01:35:11,613 --> 01:35:15,733
Speaker 22: an urban rebuild totong, it would be the next biggest,

1861
01:35:16,133 --> 01:35:18,413
Speaker 22: you know, mega transformation that I can think of in

1862
01:35:18,453 --> 01:35:19,013
Speaker 22: New Zealand.

1863
01:35:19,053 --> 01:35:20,613
Speaker 7: It really is quite colossal.

1864
01:35:20,693 --> 01:35:24,333
Speaker 2: Yeah. Nice, Okay for a dollop of history across tip

1865
01:35:24,413 --> 01:35:26,733
Speaker 2: Upper Peninsula, you've got a good walking to it to recommend.

1866
01:35:28,173 --> 01:35:30,933
Speaker 22: Oh my goodness, I would highly recommend you spend a

1867
01:35:30,973 --> 01:35:34,413
Speaker 22: few hours taking a guided heikoy with Les Millard. He

1868
01:35:34,533 --> 01:35:39,613
Speaker 22: runs Mana Maldi Experiences and We just casually hopscotched our

1869
01:35:39,653 --> 01:35:43,613
Speaker 22: way through a treasury of landmark sites across to Papa,

1870
01:35:43,933 --> 01:35:47,853
Speaker 22: starting with the Elms Mission House, and it's incredibly gorgeous grounds.

1871
01:35:48,093 --> 01:35:52,573
Speaker 22: There's just so much pre and post colonial history steeped

1872
01:35:52,853 --> 01:35:57,493
Speaker 22: on that site. Obviously gate par beaches, as do all

1873
01:35:57,653 --> 01:36:00,893
Speaker 22: sorts of hidden gems that Les will take you through

1874
01:36:01,453 --> 01:36:02,613
Speaker 22: across the peninsula.

1875
01:36:02,693 --> 01:36:06,373
Speaker 7: But he's absolutely enthralling, and he just seems.

1876
01:36:06,093 --> 01:36:11,933
Speaker 22: To unpeel the backstory of Tapapa with such grace, intact

1877
01:36:12,413 --> 01:36:12,853
Speaker 22: and wit.

1878
01:36:13,053 --> 01:36:15,413
Speaker 7: It is really I must do nice.

1879
01:36:15,573 --> 01:36:18,733
Speaker 2: That sounds really good. How's the mount feeling and looking

1880
01:36:18,893 --> 01:36:20,373
Speaker 2: in the wake of January's tragedy.

1881
01:36:21,813 --> 01:36:22,053
Speaker 7: Yes?

1882
01:36:22,133 --> 01:36:25,773
Speaker 22: Well, Interestingly, Les was one of the leading elders who

1883
01:36:25,853 --> 01:36:28,973
Speaker 22: led those here each morning during the recovery efforts. I

1884
01:36:29,013 --> 01:36:30,853
Speaker 22: had a really big chat to them about the whole

1885
01:36:31,253 --> 01:36:34,613
Speaker 22: mount vibe, and I mean, there is no denying that

1886
01:36:34,653 --> 01:36:38,213
Speaker 22: the landslide has tinged the mount with this sort of

1887
01:36:38,253 --> 01:36:39,413
Speaker 22: residual ache.

1888
01:36:40,133 --> 01:36:41,653
Speaker 7: You kind of feel it when you go there.

1889
01:36:41,693 --> 01:36:44,653
Speaker 22: There's like a heaviness, a real heavy sense of sadness.

1890
01:36:44,693 --> 01:36:48,613
Speaker 22: It's still quite raw. But despite that, I mean, it's

1891
01:36:48,693 --> 01:36:54,093
Speaker 22: such an irresistible pocket of new Zealand. There's no forgetting

1892
01:36:54,133 --> 01:36:56,653
Speaker 22: about that. You know, it's such a blessed place. And

1893
01:36:56,893 --> 01:36:58,693
Speaker 22: what really struck me Jack when I was there a

1894
01:36:58,733 --> 01:37:02,973
Speaker 22: fortnight ago, so many young international tourists who were adding

1895
01:37:03,053 --> 01:37:06,333
Speaker 22: their own spontaneous tributes to that public wall of message

1896
01:37:06,613 --> 01:37:07,533
Speaker 22: just in front of the mount.

1897
01:37:08,573 --> 01:37:09,973
Speaker 7: So they're struck by it.

1898
01:37:10,013 --> 01:37:12,933
Speaker 22: And you are really confronted when you see up close

1899
01:37:13,693 --> 01:37:18,413
Speaker 22: that brutal scar at the base of Moaw, you know

1900
01:37:18,413 --> 01:37:20,413
Speaker 22: where the lower slope so fatally gave way.

1901
01:37:20,453 --> 01:37:23,333
Speaker 7: It is quite quite confronting.

1902
01:37:23,413 --> 01:37:27,533
Speaker 22: But yeah, for all the sadness, don't forget about the mount.

1903
01:37:27,613 --> 01:37:30,173
Speaker 22: It is an out of the box place.

1904
01:37:30,293 --> 01:37:32,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, how are the businesses they're doing? Are they still

1905
01:37:32,253 --> 01:37:32,813
Speaker 2: doing it tough?

1906
01:37:34,133 --> 01:37:35,973
Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's something that was on my mind.

1907
01:37:36,013 --> 01:37:39,493
Speaker 22: And the road excess is still restricted on parts of

1908
01:37:39,493 --> 01:37:42,253
Speaker 22: Adam's air, but it is open on foot. And I

1909
01:37:42,373 --> 01:37:45,253
Speaker 22: was actually quite eager to support some of those local

1910
01:37:45,253 --> 01:37:47,733
Speaker 22: businesses that were so heavily impacted by the cordons. So

1911
01:37:47,853 --> 01:37:53,853
Speaker 22: two specimens. I would suggest Rustica Pizzeria. They are a delight.

1912
01:37:54,053 --> 01:37:58,053
Speaker 22: They have this seventy two hour Sado base anchoring their pizzas,

1913
01:37:58,653 --> 01:38:00,933
Speaker 22: and I know you don't cheer my fetish for fun

1914
01:38:00,973 --> 01:38:05,853
Speaker 22: guy jaccam, but I would highly recommend the Tatoo Fatah pizza,

1915
01:38:06,533 --> 01:38:11,093
Speaker 22: which is slothed and mozzarella roasted mushrooms. And this will

1916
01:38:11,213 --> 01:38:15,533
Speaker 22: please use smoked paprika, so it's quite a zesty pizza.

1917
01:38:15,613 --> 01:38:16,573
Speaker 7: And then right.

1918
01:38:16,453 --> 01:38:19,573
Speaker 22: Next door you've got to go to Copenhagen Cones. This

1919
01:38:19,773 --> 01:38:24,413
Speaker 22: is that shop that has such a seductive pull because

1920
01:38:24,533 --> 01:38:27,813
Speaker 22: of it's aroma of those waffle cones that attracts people

1921
01:38:27,853 --> 01:38:31,373
Speaker 22: for miles that I actually had a snow good the Jack.

1922
01:38:31,413 --> 01:38:35,453
Speaker 7: I've neither had a snow good, so that's.

1923
01:38:35,493 --> 01:38:39,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, go on, what do you think it is? Is

1924
01:38:39,533 --> 01:38:42,533
Speaker 2: it like is it like a you know, like a

1925
01:38:42,573 --> 01:38:45,773
Speaker 2: crushed ice but done with yogurt.

1926
01:38:46,453 --> 01:38:49,493
Speaker 7: You're nearly there. It's half snow freeze half yogurts.

1927
01:38:49,493 --> 01:38:54,973
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh yeah, yeah that sounds great. Predly sweet asn't mine?

1928
01:38:55,613 --> 01:38:56,373
Speaker 7: Yeah, very sweet?

1929
01:38:58,613 --> 01:39:01,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds amazing. So what would you like at

1930
01:39:01,373 --> 01:39:03,413
Speaker 2: any other like little spots around there for great North?

1931
01:39:04,693 --> 01:39:07,853
Speaker 22: Yeah, A couple of things are for culinary finesse and

1932
01:39:07,933 --> 01:39:11,613
Speaker 22: theta I would strongly suggest taking a seat at the

1933
01:39:11,733 --> 01:39:13,973
Speaker 22: kitchen bar counter at Celera.

1934
01:39:14,013 --> 01:39:16,413
Speaker 7: They're on Manganui Road and.

1935
01:39:16,293 --> 01:39:20,013
Speaker 22: They're chefs, they're just wizards and they love playing for

1936
01:39:20,093 --> 01:39:23,293
Speaker 22: a you know, to the audience, the chef's men you

1937
01:39:23,373 --> 01:39:26,133
Speaker 22: experience at Celera, it is superb, but you've got to

1938
01:39:26,173 --> 01:39:29,573
Speaker 22: go really really hungry to do it justice. But there

1939
01:39:29,573 --> 01:39:33,733
Speaker 22: were some amazing dishes they served jack things like tuna

1940
01:39:33,893 --> 01:39:39,213
Speaker 22: capaccio with these really small icy cucumber cubes on top

1941
01:39:39,253 --> 01:39:39,773
Speaker 22: of the tuna.

1942
01:39:39,813 --> 01:39:40,813
Speaker 7: It was amazing.

1943
01:39:40,933 --> 01:39:44,093
Speaker 22: And then but a buffalo culd on top of that,

1944
01:39:44,733 --> 01:39:47,813
Speaker 22: and also poached at gemfish, which is probably better known

1945
01:39:47,853 --> 01:39:52,373
Speaker 22: as kingfish, but gemfish with turmerica fenela and chorizo, just

1946
01:39:52,733 --> 01:39:53,933
Speaker 22: really good flavors.

1947
01:39:53,973 --> 01:39:55,653
Speaker 2: And is is a Kai still popular?

1948
01:39:57,053 --> 01:39:59,413
Speaker 22: Oh yeah, this is such a cool place. And I

1949
01:39:59,413 --> 01:40:03,973
Speaker 22: mean it's a village in Toto. Leza's son runs Isakai

1950
01:40:04,653 --> 01:40:08,453
Speaker 22: and they have fostered such a red red hot reputation

1951
01:40:09,053 --> 01:40:15,373
Speaker 22: because it's Maori Japanese fusion cuisine and the sheer plates

1952
01:40:15,373 --> 01:40:19,533
Speaker 22: are so goddamn good, things like creamed power and prawn

1953
01:40:19,613 --> 01:40:24,973
Speaker 22: dumplings with cauliflower, puro crispy Charlotte's spring onions and chili.

1954
01:40:25,253 --> 01:40:27,173
Speaker 7: It is just fabulous.

1955
01:40:27,573 --> 01:40:30,493
Speaker 2: That sounds fantastic. Okay, great, hey, thank you very much.

1956
01:40:30,533 --> 01:40:33,173
Speaker 2: Mike really really good to have those tips for Mike's

1957
01:40:33,173 --> 01:40:35,613
Speaker 2: top bites and sites and toading. I will make sure

1958
01:40:36,013 --> 01:40:38,853
Speaker 2: that all of his tips and advice and hot spots

1959
01:40:38,853 --> 01:40:40,973
Speaker 2: are up on the news Talks he'd be website. It

1960
01:40:41,013 --> 01:40:45,533
Speaker 2: has just gone eleven thirty.

1961
01:40:46,773 --> 01:40:50,933
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

1962
01:40:51,173 --> 01:40:51,973
Speaker 1: on news Talks.

1963
01:40:52,013 --> 01:40:52,293
Speaker 3: It'd be.

1964
01:41:10,333 --> 01:41:13,373
Speaker 2: That's Harry Styles and Pop. Thanks for your messages. Sharon's

1965
01:41:13,413 --> 01:41:15,773
Speaker 2: Jacket's amusing to me that people have all of a

1966
01:41:15,813 --> 01:41:18,773
Speaker 2: sudden realized that older furniture is goodbye. I've been collecting

1967
01:41:18,973 --> 01:41:21,373
Speaker 2: MU furniture for more than ten years. The quality is

1968
01:41:21,413 --> 01:41:25,253
Speaker 2: just so much better. I do love some old Demu

1969
01:41:25,413 --> 01:41:29,493
Speaker 2: or Cody. Some New Zealand native timber furniture is amazing. Honestly,

1970
01:41:29,533 --> 01:41:33,413
Speaker 2: just solid wood furniture is amazing. I mean it can

1971
01:41:33,493 --> 01:41:35,573
Speaker 2: be a bit more expensive, certainly if you're buying brand new,

1972
01:41:35,613 --> 01:41:38,373
Speaker 2: it's very much more expensive. But there's so much good

1973
01:41:38,413 --> 01:41:41,733
Speaker 2: refurbished stuff available now. So yeah, thanks for that. Sharon

1974
01:41:41,933 --> 01:41:44,693
Speaker 2: twenty five to eleven on News Talks to twelve rather

1975
01:41:44,773 --> 01:41:48,253
Speaker 2: on Newstalk's Head. Be you Darcy Watergras with us this morning.

1976
01:41:48,333 --> 01:41:51,933
Speaker 2: Kioder Hello, Jackie. You got Justin Vaughan on the show.

1977
01:41:51,933 --> 01:41:54,253
Speaker 2: That is going to be a fascinating conversation.

1978
01:41:54,333 --> 01:41:56,733
Speaker 14: He's a wonderful human being. Justin Vorn, the good Doctor

1979
01:41:56,813 --> 01:41:59,053
Speaker 14: as we like to call him, former CEO of n

1980
01:41:59,173 --> 01:42:02,853
Speaker 14: ZID Cricket. He's domicil now over in Australia. We're going

1981
01:42:02,853 --> 01:42:06,933
Speaker 14: to talk to him plainly, where too for zed where

1982
01:42:06,973 --> 01:42:10,453
Speaker 14: two for international cricket. This is a huge tangle. It's

1983
01:42:10,533 --> 01:42:12,413
Speaker 14: cost a lot of people, it's jobs. If you read

1984
01:42:12,413 --> 01:42:15,413
Speaker 14: the article on Shane Curry en Z Herald and he's

1985
01:42:15,453 --> 01:42:19,133
Speaker 14: gone through some documents that he's found. Apparently the boarders split.

1986
01:42:19,213 --> 01:42:21,773
Speaker 14: There's a ruckus within that we over loost the CEO

1987
01:42:21,853 --> 01:42:24,773
Speaker 14: and a couple of other characters. So what happens because

1988
01:42:24,773 --> 01:42:28,653
Speaker 14: the delete Deloitte report excuse me, apparently is out hasn't

1989
01:42:28,653 --> 01:42:30,893
Speaker 14: been sighted yet by anyone. We're trying to get our

1990
01:42:30,933 --> 01:42:35,093
Speaker 14: hands on it. As it's talking about recommendations. What happens

1991
01:42:35,133 --> 01:42:36,773
Speaker 14: next year? It's a big one. Do we have n

1992
01:42:36,853 --> 01:42:39,613
Speaker 14: Z twenty, do we have supersmash carrying on? Do we

1993
01:42:39,613 --> 01:42:41,813
Speaker 14: have an adjusted super smash? Do we go and play

1994
01:42:42,053 --> 01:42:46,813
Speaker 14: big bass cricket? And what happens to the international program.

1995
01:42:46,853 --> 01:42:51,093
Speaker 14: Therefore the sponsorship from New Zealand Cricket. There are so

1996
01:42:51,413 --> 01:42:55,053
Speaker 14: many strands to this, so Justin Vaughan will give us

1997
01:42:55,093 --> 01:42:58,013
Speaker 14: some opinion and try and unpicket for us up after

1998
01:42:58,093 --> 01:43:00,173
Speaker 14: midday and then we'll take calls on Oh, one hundred

1999
01:43:00,173 --> 01:43:01,293
Speaker 14: and eighty ten eighty.

2000
01:43:01,133 --> 01:43:03,333
Speaker 2: Oh very good. Do you watch leam morson last night?

2001
01:43:03,693 --> 01:43:04,533
Speaker 15: Yeah, of course I do.

2002
01:43:04,533 --> 01:43:07,453
Speaker 2: Do you think well, I think that it's really hard.

2003
01:43:07,813 --> 01:43:10,053
Speaker 15: I'm addicted because I shortened.

2004
01:43:09,613 --> 01:43:15,933
Speaker 2: That very well, unfeart enjoyable.

2005
01:43:16,173 --> 01:43:19,413
Speaker 14: I feel for Liam because he qualified thirteen for the

2006
01:43:19,413 --> 01:43:21,973
Speaker 14: sprint race this afternoon. The issue with that is the

2007
01:43:22,013 --> 01:43:26,573
Speaker 14: sprint race is fairly hairy. They really go Unfortunately, if

2008
01:43:26,613 --> 01:43:29,893
Speaker 14: you tangle up your vehicle during that, you've got pretty

2009
01:43:29,933 --> 01:43:34,013
Speaker 14: much two hours before four hours before qualifying for the

2010
01:43:34,053 --> 01:43:39,053
Speaker 14: big race tomorrow night. And he's starting in thirteenth position.

2011
01:43:39,413 --> 01:43:41,413
Speaker 14: That is a horrible place to start in the sprint

2012
01:43:41,493 --> 01:43:44,053
Speaker 14: race as far as the chaos and look, we don't

2013
01:43:44,093 --> 01:43:45,053
Speaker 14: know he's still had.

2014
01:43:45,013 --> 01:43:47,133
Speaker 2: Engines yesterday launches to start.

2015
01:43:48,053 --> 01:43:50,653
Speaker 14: Even if he does start, it's very very messy. But

2016
01:43:50,693 --> 01:43:54,853
Speaker 14: he had launched his yesterday after free practice, so that

2017
01:43:54,853 --> 01:43:57,373
Speaker 14: that Greenlin is still there, but he won't be the

2018
01:43:57,413 --> 01:43:57,893
Speaker 14: only grim.

2019
01:43:58,013 --> 01:43:59,893
Speaker 15: There'll be plenty of them over the weekend.

2020
01:44:00,373 --> 01:44:03,373
Speaker 14: He's returning to where he basically had his last drive

2021
01:44:04,053 --> 01:44:06,853
Speaker 14: with Red Bull last year before he got on serahtly

2022
01:44:06,973 --> 01:44:10,933
Speaker 14: drop kicked to the sidelines. But I think that there's

2023
01:44:10,933 --> 01:44:12,813
Speaker 14: no real point I'm looking back a year and worried

2024
01:44:12,853 --> 01:44:14,773
Speaker 14: about that. He needs to look over his shoulder and

2025
01:44:14,773 --> 01:44:17,373
Speaker 14: look at his teammate Harvid Lynn Blados. It's got a

2026
01:44:17,373 --> 01:44:18,213
Speaker 14: bit of toe about him.

2027
01:44:18,333 --> 01:44:21,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely no. I look forward to so four o'clock,

2028
01:44:21,093 --> 01:44:23,813
Speaker 2: I think the sprint race starts and then qualifying forward.

2029
01:44:23,853 --> 01:44:26,093
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's Grand Prix is a few hours later. Eight o'clock.

2030
01:44:26,093 --> 01:44:28,133
Speaker 2: I think that starts in New Zealand time tonight orkn

2031
01:44:28,253 --> 01:44:30,853
Speaker 2: FC playing this evening as well. Of course you've got Crusaders,

2032
01:44:31,093 --> 01:44:34,173
Speaker 2: Highlanders and Christis. Who are you picking for that Crusaders?

2033
01:44:34,293 --> 01:44:35,533
Speaker 15: Just because I'm a Crusader fan.

2034
01:44:36,173 --> 01:44:38,653
Speaker 14: When I come to a situation, I can't look at

2035
01:44:38,693 --> 01:44:41,573
Speaker 14: it and stand back and way up because you can.

2036
01:44:43,253 --> 01:44:43,853
Speaker 2: Head and heart.

2037
01:44:44,093 --> 01:44:46,493
Speaker 14: Once you're a fan, you're always a fan. When I

2038
01:44:46,533 --> 01:44:49,933
Speaker 14: first started this job decades ago, oh I know.

2039
01:44:49,933 --> 01:44:51,893
Speaker 15: You've got to sit in the middle. Say you know what.

2040
01:44:51,973 --> 01:44:54,653
Speaker 15: I'm a fan. I'm not going to I can do both.

2041
01:44:55,253 --> 01:44:57,413
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that you can necessarily, Even if you

2042
01:44:57,453 --> 01:44:59,973
Speaker 2: think that you are being like rational and saying you can,

2043
01:45:00,013 --> 01:45:01,613
Speaker 2: you know, separate the head in the heart, I'm not

2044
01:45:01,613 --> 01:45:04,173
Speaker 2: sure that you can necessarily. Can you really tell one

2045
01:45:04,213 --> 01:45:05,133
Speaker 2: starts and one ends?

2046
01:45:05,213 --> 01:45:06,373
Speaker 15: No, No, not a few.

2047
01:45:06,613 --> 01:45:08,493
Speaker 14: Not if you grow up in christ gyms and you

2048
01:45:08,533 --> 01:45:10,773
Speaker 14: grow up with Read and Black through NPC and then

2049
01:45:10,813 --> 01:45:13,733
Speaker 14: with the Crusaders, and anyone will know that I moved

2050
01:45:13,733 --> 01:45:17,293
Speaker 14: to Auckland nearly thirty years ago. I got a career

2051
01:45:17,373 --> 01:45:20,173
Speaker 14: up here, I've got child up. Everything is about Auckland.

2052
01:45:20,493 --> 01:45:23,733
Speaker 14: But you cannot get rid of that. You can't take

2053
01:45:23,773 --> 01:45:26,813
Speaker 14: that Canterbury away. And any cantab will know. And I

2054
01:45:26,853 --> 01:45:29,893
Speaker 14: think a lot of people who move away from their

2055
01:45:29,893 --> 01:45:32,133
Speaker 14: favorite team they can't shake it.

2056
01:45:32,253 --> 01:45:34,053
Speaker 2: No, of course, not, of course not. Hey, thank you sir.

2057
01:45:34,173 --> 01:45:36,093
Speaker 2: Looking forward to this after the Dusky Watercave with us

2058
01:45:36,093 --> 01:45:39,053
Speaker 2: for weekend sport, right after the midday news on Newstalks,

2059
01:45:39,093 --> 01:45:41,933
Speaker 2: y'd be before midday. We're going to catch up on

2060
01:45:41,973 --> 01:45:44,693
Speaker 2: homegrownd as that kicks off this weekend. And as well

2061
01:45:44,733 --> 01:45:46,613
Speaker 2: as that, we've got your book picks for this weekend.

2062
01:45:47,133 --> 01:45:50,733
Speaker 2: Our resident petrol Head, our book reviewer, has returned from

2063
01:45:50,853 --> 01:45:54,373
Speaker 2: Australia the Melbourne Grand Prix and has a couple of

2064
01:45:54,413 --> 01:45:56,133
Speaker 2: great reads to recommend.

2065
01:45:55,733 --> 01:45:59,853
Speaker 1: Next Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on

2066
01:46:00,013 --> 01:46:02,653
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by newstalks.

2067
01:46:02,253 --> 01:46:06,133
Speaker 2: 'B eighteen to twelve on newstalks 'DB. This time last week,

2068
01:46:06,413 --> 01:46:09,573
Speaker 2: book reviewer Katherine Rains was in Melbourne counting down the

2069
01:46:09,653 --> 01:46:11,573
Speaker 2: minutes to the Melbourne Grand Prix as well. It's now

2070
01:46:11,653 --> 01:46:14,733
Speaker 2: get a Catherine, Good morning Jack. I know Liam Lawson

2071
01:46:14,773 --> 01:46:17,493
Speaker 2: didn't have the greatest weekend, but how was it for you?

2072
01:46:17,613 --> 01:46:19,773
Speaker 2: Did it live up to your expectations?

2073
01:46:20,893 --> 01:46:25,013
Speaker 24: It sure did. Yeah, it was a great event. Melbourne

2074
01:46:25,053 --> 01:46:27,133
Speaker 24: does it incredibly well. But yeah, it was just so

2075
01:46:27,173 --> 01:46:29,813
Speaker 24: much fun to be there and experience it an atmosphere

2076
01:46:29,933 --> 01:46:31,773
Speaker 24: and everybody there was having such a good time.

2077
01:46:31,933 --> 01:46:32,373
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2078
01:46:32,413 --> 01:46:34,213
Speaker 9: So yeah, no, it was really enjoyable.

2079
01:46:34,253 --> 01:46:36,173
Speaker 2: Oh I'm pleased to hear it. Look, you've got two

2080
01:46:36,213 --> 01:46:38,733
Speaker 2: fantastic sounding reads for us for this weekend, so let's

2081
01:46:38,773 --> 01:46:40,853
Speaker 2: begin with Better Life by Lionel Schreiber.

2082
01:46:42,013 --> 01:46:45,133
Speaker 24: So this story unfolds through the eyes of one person,

2083
01:46:45,253 --> 01:46:47,533
Speaker 24: a twenty six year old man called Nico, and he's

2084
01:46:47,613 --> 01:46:49,933
Speaker 24: ended up in his mother's basement in this upscale New

2085
01:46:50,013 --> 01:46:53,813
Speaker 24: York queen's neighborhood, and he's ready to detach from work responsibility.

2086
01:46:53,933 --> 01:46:57,413
Speaker 24: He has no purpose, and he seems really lost and

2087
01:46:57,413 --> 01:47:02,293
Speaker 24: feels pretty inconsequential. And Gloria is his Mum's in her sixties,

2088
01:47:02,453 --> 01:47:04,573
Speaker 24: and she kind of directs a lot of her energy

2089
01:47:04,613 --> 01:47:07,813
Speaker 24: towards strangers rather than her own family. So she'sn't interested

2090
01:47:07,853 --> 01:47:10,973
Speaker 24: in a traditional role of being a grandmother or surrounded

2091
01:47:11,013 --> 01:47:14,293
Speaker 24: by her grandchildren. Instead, she's much more interested in what

2092
01:47:14,373 --> 01:47:16,733
Speaker 24: outside has bring to her life. And she's driven a

2093
01:47:16,733 --> 01:47:19,853
Speaker 24: lot more by ideology than she is really by what's

2094
01:47:19,893 --> 01:47:22,453
Speaker 24: going on in her own life. And things in their

2095
01:47:22,453 --> 01:47:24,733
Speaker 24: lives are about to change though. There's been this initiative

2096
01:47:24,773 --> 01:47:27,133
Speaker 24: from the Mayor of New York, and Gloria applies to

2097
01:47:27,173 --> 01:47:30,413
Speaker 24: participate in this program, which is to help the immigrants

2098
01:47:30,413 --> 01:47:32,973
Speaker 24: that are arriving in the state. And she's got the

2099
01:47:33,053 --> 01:47:36,493
Speaker 24: room and there's a monetary incentive as well. So Martin

2100
01:47:36,573 --> 01:47:41,373
Speaker 24: from Hondrea Andrea Andreas arrives in their home and initially,

2101
01:47:41,853 --> 01:47:44,533
Speaker 24: to start with, she's the perfect guest. She's helping with cooking,

2102
01:47:44,573 --> 01:47:48,373
Speaker 24: and cleaning, and Gloria and her girl's lover, Niko, is

2103
01:47:48,653 --> 01:47:53,293
Speaker 24: not quite so happy. And then visitors of Marten start

2104
01:47:53,333 --> 01:47:56,813
Speaker 24: to arrive at home, and then her brother arrives, and

2105
01:47:56,853 --> 01:48:00,293
Speaker 24: there's this real contrast in what's going on and these

2106
01:48:00,333 --> 01:48:05,093
Speaker 24: traditional family structures that Martine have and what Gloria and

2107
01:48:05,213 --> 01:48:07,853
Speaker 24: Leko are used to. And it's really eye opening, this

2108
01:48:08,053 --> 01:48:12,693
Speaker 24: dynamics between sort of modern Western society and this strange

2109
01:48:12,693 --> 01:48:16,693
Speaker 24: moral right that often disguises itself as empathy. And there's

2110
01:48:16,813 --> 01:48:20,653
Speaker 24: observations of people and communities and institutions and the government,

2111
01:48:21,253 --> 01:48:23,653
Speaker 24: and there's lots of ideas and concepts that really keep

2112
01:48:23,693 --> 01:48:27,213
Speaker 24: you thinking and considering long after you've finished the book.

2113
01:48:27,373 --> 01:48:28,053
Speaker 24: Really interesting.

2114
01:48:28,533 --> 01:48:31,333
Speaker 2: Okay, great, So that's better Life by Lionel Shreiver. Tell

2115
01:48:31,413 --> 01:48:33,373
Speaker 2: us about Rasputin by Anthony Beaver.

2116
01:48:34,573 --> 01:48:37,773
Speaker 24: So this is nonfiction and it's a fascinating look at

2117
01:48:37,773 --> 01:48:41,373
Speaker 24: the life of one of Russia's most intriguing residents, a

2118
01:48:41,413 --> 01:48:46,093
Speaker 24: guy called Gregor Rasputin, and his involvement with the ruling family,

2119
01:48:46,173 --> 01:48:49,253
Speaker 24: the Romanovs, and he changed the course of history really

2120
01:48:50,013 --> 01:48:52,413
Speaker 24: and the court of the early nineteen hundreds was in

2121
01:48:52,493 --> 01:48:56,053
Speaker 24: this grip of all you know, very spiritual and religion

2122
01:48:56,333 --> 01:48:59,493
Speaker 24: was king and the Czara and Zarena Nicholais and Alexander

2123
01:49:00,053 --> 01:49:03,093
Speaker 24: maintained this belief in the Czar's god given right to

2124
01:49:03,213 --> 01:49:06,653
Speaker 24: rule and his deep connection with the Russian people. And

2125
01:49:06,693 --> 01:49:10,333
Speaker 24: you get this portrayal of this dynasty that's really frightened

2126
01:49:10,373 --> 01:49:14,333
Speaker 24: and isolated and dysfunctional, and it places all its faith

2127
01:49:14,653 --> 01:49:18,453
Speaker 24: in one man, Resputant, and his story actually is almost

2128
01:49:18,493 --> 01:49:22,773
Speaker 24: completely the opposite of where it begins. He was completely impoverished.

2129
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Speaker 24: He grew up on the settlement of the banks of

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Speaker 24: a river, lived in timber houses. His father was a peasant,

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Speaker 24: and nothing about his early life suggested that he would

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Speaker 24: become the notorious man that he was. And he made

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Speaker 24: his way from this peasant upbringing to the center of

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Speaker 24: Russian power, particularly because the young Tsarevich Alexey suffered from hemophilia,

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Speaker 24: and that was where Russian Resputant asserted his presence and

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Speaker 24: helped out when court doctors were helpless, and prayed beside

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Speaker 24: his bed, you know, and Alexandra believes that Resputant had

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Speaker 24: saved his son, and those consequences were extraordinary, and by

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Speaker 24: the First World War he's well ingrained in the romanofs

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Speaker 24: and he's one of the most hated men in Russia

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Speaker 24: by the stage and it's just really interesting looking at

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Speaker 24: that historical context of the time and why he was

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Speaker 24: so important, and you know, the fall of the dynasty

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Speaker 24: in Anthony Beaver does a superb job of making this

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Speaker 24: history just so interesting to read. It's so fascinating, very good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to read that. So let's rest Booton

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Speaker 2: by Anthony Beaver. Catherine's first book was Better Life by

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Speaker 2: Lionel Schreiber. Both of those will be on the News

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Speaker 2: Talk z'b website. We're heading to Hamilton and home Ground

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Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes fourteen to twelve on NEWSTALKSZ'DB.

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Speaker 1: Guving you the inside scoop on All you need to

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Speaker 1: Know Saturday morning with Jack dam News Talks.

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Speaker 11: It be.

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Speaker 17: Oh hoh.

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Speaker 2: Against Her, My Baby, My Baby by Me. I love

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Speaker 2: this song. God, It's beautiful, isn't It's Lydia by Fir Patrol.

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Speaker 2: They're playing Homegrown today. Chris Schultz is headed to Homegrown

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Speaker 2: along with thirty five thousand other New Zealand music fans

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Speaker 2: who will be absolutely loving it today. Sixty acts. It's

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Speaker 2: just extraordinary Christmas weather snawg today, Jack.

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Speaker 25: I just got here the suns out. I can hear

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Speaker 25: the drums kicking off in the background. They're about to

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Speaker 25: open the gates. So, yeah, you're right. It's all happening

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Speaker 25: here in Hamilton, a city that there's been a little

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Speaker 25: derided over the years, the tron the Bogan capital of

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Speaker 25: New Zealand, lacking a bit of culture, but that all

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Speaker 25: changes today with Homegrown. This is the first time this

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Speaker 25: All New Zealand festival has been in Hamilton. Organizers dramatically

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Speaker 25: pulled the plug on Wellington. Yeah, at the end of

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Speaker 25: after last year's show, they sort of teased a few

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Speaker 25: different options about where it might go. They said, Wellington

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Speaker 25: it's sort of just wasn't big enough for them. They

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Speaker 25: couldn't find a site and they had bigger ambitions, And

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Speaker 25: so they've come to Hamilton Claudland's Oval and yeah, it's

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Speaker 25: the biggest Homegrown yet. They are expecting somewhere around that

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Speaker 25: thirty thirty five thousand people to show up, which puts

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Speaker 25: it way ahead of last year's twenty three thousand. That's

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Speaker 25: all I could fit on the waterfront, grand in there

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Speaker 25: like sardines Claudland's oval was three times the size of

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Speaker 25: that Wellington front site, so they've got space to burn.

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Speaker 25: The two extra stages, one for all new artists, I understand.

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Speaker 25: I'm very much looking forward to checking that out, and then.

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Speaker 12: Just picky genre.

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Speaker 25: It's like there's a rock stage, there's a hip hop stage,

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Speaker 25: there's a dance stage, and then there's a stage for

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Speaker 25: all the heapliners, the ones we all know, you know,

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Speaker 25: the Labs, the six sixties, that kind of stuff. So yeah,

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Speaker 25: I'm looking forward to getting amongst it. I don't think

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Speaker 25: homegrown organizers have been given enough credit for what they've

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Speaker 25: achieved here. You know, an all New Zealand festival launched

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Speaker 25: into two thousand and eight was a huge risk, right,

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Speaker 25: Like New Zealand music wasn't what it is now. Back then,

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Speaker 25: we didn't have six sixty filling up stadiums. We didn't

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Speaker 25: have Lord touring the world. He was told Andrew Tucks,

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Speaker 25: the organizer, I spoke to him a week ago and they,

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Speaker 25: you know, people sort of said this only last two years,

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Speaker 25: and here he is nineteenth one today and it's the

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Speaker 25: biggest one yet.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, they've really done something special. It's remarkable it's.

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Speaker 2: Going to be amazing. So who are you most looking

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Speaker 2: forward to seeing today?

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Speaker 8: Do you know what?

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Speaker 25: I'm going to head to that hip up stage. I

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Speaker 25: want to throwback Savage.

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Speaker 12: Pee Money, Jesse, David Dallas is on their Lady Sex

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Speaker 12: as well.

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Speaker 25: I haven't seen a lot of those artists in a

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Speaker 25: long time, so I am going to get a little

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Speaker 25: bit nostalgic.

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Speaker 12: But for Patrol.

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Speaker 25: My sister actually went to the Wellington show a few

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Speaker 25: nights ago and she said there in really good form,

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Speaker 25: So I'm really keen to see them, like I love

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Speaker 25: Super Groove at Electric Avenue, desperately want to see them again.

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Speaker 12: They're always just a a really good time.

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Speaker 25: And then I look, apparently you can get between these

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Speaker 25: stages so much faster than the Wellington Waterfront Festival, which

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Speaker 25: was one long strip along the waterfront.

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Speaker 12: This is more of a circle.

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Speaker 25: It's an oval bulblems over obviously, and apparently it's just

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Speaker 25: sort of three or four minutes you can do a

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Speaker 25: bit of running about.

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Speaker 12: So maybe I'll test his legs out, Jackson, see.

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Speaker 25: What's left in them at the end of this ridiculous

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Speaker 25: summer festival.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. Yeah, it's going to be so good. I wish

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Speaker 2: I was there. I'm burning with envy, but I know

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Speaker 2: that you're very much well practiced. You've had a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a break since Electric EV, so no excuses

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Speaker 2: for not getting around a few of those stages this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I can't wait to hear how it all

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Speaker 2: goes in the tron. So thank you very much, Chris.

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Speaker 2: You can hear, of course, more from Chris on his

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Speaker 2: sub stack, his substacks, boiler Room. And I hope if

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Speaker 2: you're heading along to Homegrown today, or to Pacifica, or

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Speaker 2: to the myriad other events around the country today, you

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Speaker 2: have a wonderful time as well. In a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 2: we'll wrap things up, we'll play the Black Seeds, given

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Speaker 2: they're playing out I'm Grown this afternoon. I reckon we'll

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Speaker 2: play the Black Seeds to close out the show in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes. Seven to twelve one Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 1: It's cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with

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Speaker 2: Sport this afternoon. He's going to take a look at

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Speaker 2: this whole saga with New Zealand crickets as well as

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Speaker 2: that if one with Liam Lawson this afternoon. That sprint

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Speaker 2: race in Shanghai is four o'clock. Got super Rugby this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Auckland FC playing seven o'clock this evening, looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: back with you next Saturday morning from nine o'clock. Until then,

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Speaker 2: a massive thanks to my awesome producer Libby. Have a

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Speaker 2: wonderful week and we're going to leave you at the

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Speaker 2: Black Seeds.

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Speaker 18: coomb me.

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Speaker 17: Maybe it is cool it coom coomb me down, cool

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Speaker 17: it down, coom down.

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Speaker 3: com com me down, cool it Down.

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