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Speaker 1: Now. A new survey by BNZ has found that our

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Speaker 1: addiction to our smartphones is so bad that thirty five

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Speaker 1: percent of us respond to texts and emails on the loop.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight percent of us respond while we're in meetings.

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Speaker 1: And this is the thing that gets my goat. Forty

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Speaker 1: one percent of us respond while we're face to face

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Speaker 1: with someone in the flesh and a muscin is an

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Speaker 1: etiquette expert in with us. Now, Hello Anna, Hello, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Forty one percent is a lie because it's one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent of us, isn't it? It is well, not your

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Speaker 1: may of course I did do it today, and I

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Speaker 1: knew I was doing it, but I had I had

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Speaker 1: so many people around me I could not go. But

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Speaker 1: we do it, don't we. We all at some point

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Speaker 1: we're talking to someone, pack up the phone and do

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Speaker 1: something before we can help ourselves all.

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Speaker 2: Look, the rule of some with this, Heather, is the

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Speaker 2: rule wa Actually, the rule with all good manners is

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Speaker 2: putting another person before yourself. Yes. So if this is

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Speaker 2: something that you can do without offending the other person,

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Speaker 2: absolutely fine. So if I was speaking to you right

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Speaker 2: now and you didn't know I was also buying something

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Speaker 2: on you, no harm, no foul. The reality is most

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Speaker 2: of us are rubbish at multitasking, absolute rubbish. But if

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Speaker 2: you're not going to offend the other person, knock yourself out. However,

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Speaker 2: if you are in the company of another person, it

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Speaker 2: is criminal to pick up your phone and suggest that

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Speaker 2: the other person is less interesting or less important. Even

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Speaker 2: if it's true, then they really are. It's very poor man.

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Speaker 1: And can I just because I feel so bad about it,

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Speaker 1: can I just clarify I didn't. I was actually on

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Speaker 1: my phone when somebody started talking to me, and because

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Speaker 1: I was halfway through something, I finished it before I

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Speaker 1: actually engaged with them. So I've got a bit of

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Speaker 1: lattitude there, haven't I.

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Speaker 2: That's on them for approaching you while you weren't available.

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Speaker 1: You are excused, Okay, thank you. I feel much better

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Speaker 1: about it. Can I talk to you about this though?

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Speaker 1: Because I have been railing at the boomers? Right, Boomers

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Speaker 1: are primary offenders, but I realize not the only offenders.

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Speaker 1: But what is up anna with a boomer when they

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Speaker 1: take a phone call and I'm talking about my mum

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Speaker 1: right now, she's in my company, and then she goes

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Speaker 1: speak a phone and just and holds it up to

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Speaker 1: her face and speak of phones, so that everybody has

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Speaker 1: to listen to what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I think a lot of the boomers think

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Speaker 2: that they can do as they please, now, don't they

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Speaker 2: because they're boomers, and they'll tell you exactly what they

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Speaker 2: think about you, what's your hair, what you've done wrong,

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Speaker 2: and how you can improve yourself generally because they're older.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a generational problem.

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Speaker 2: I think it is. I'm sorry, boomers, but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to call you out on that way.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And then what about my friend? You know who

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Speaker 1: you are not naming names, but my friend went to

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Speaker 1: a concert with me recently and she had one or

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Speaker 1: two seven year bloc and all her manners went out

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Speaker 1: and she spent the entire concert and dinner on her phone.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's just disgraceful. And listen, no matter how much

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Speaker 2: booze or whatever you have, we all know that's bad form.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So the rule is we just do should the

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Speaker 1: rule not be prioritize people over phones?

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Speaker 2: And the rule is be present, be in the moment,

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Speaker 2: and prioritize who is with you, over being on your phone,

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Speaker 2: and over what's to come, and over if it's not

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Speaker 2: on Instagram. It didn't happen. It's us a nonsense and

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Speaker 2: we need to value the company that's with us, or

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Speaker 2: we'll end up having no friends at all.

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Speaker 1: Actually, you and I could be friends the way we're going.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that, and I think I would enjoy

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Speaker 1: the experience a lot. Thank you, Anna. Anna mustn't get expert.

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Speaker 1: Guess what you know? Who you are? Yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say, wait for it, wait for it? No,

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Speaker 1: not even she was all you on your phone, won't

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Speaker 1: you you know who? Show nabe you? No, I probably won't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin your reputation. You've got, you've

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Speaker 1: got a big person's job. She's already sent me a

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Speaker 1: text with a crying laugh face because she knows it

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Speaker 1: was her, and she's she was probably on her phone

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Speaker 1: right then when I said it, and she was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: just quickly stop that, and she was probably having multiple

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Speaker 1: conversations and then text me the crying laugh face as well,

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Speaker 1: so she knows what she's up to. Anyway, we'll work

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Speaker 1: on it. We'll see if we can improve her.

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