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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 2: The only place for the.

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Speaker 1: Big names, the big issues, the big controversies and the

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Speaker 1: big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport on your home

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Speaker 3: Let's rip into its Weekend Sport Afternoon and welcome Elliott

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Speaker 3: Smith in for Jason Pine on this labor day long weekends.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you show producer Andy McDonald. The

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Speaker 3: twenty sixth of October twenty twenty five, Big Happy birthday

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Speaker 3: to Ken Rutherford and Karen Read, a couple of former

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Speaker 3: New Zealand captains celebrating today across their chosen sports. Twenty

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Speaker 3: eight years to the day too since the gent Ville

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Speaker 3: Nerve became the first IF one champ from Canada. Big

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Speaker 3: old show this afternoon, So Dame Nolean Toldoer gets her

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Speaker 3: job back, actually has the title again. She has been reconfirmed,

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Speaker 3: reinstated as the head coach of the siwer Ferns, but

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Speaker 3: won't actually be in charge of the side again until

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. We have a resolution to the saga

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Speaker 3: that has dragged on and on. Common sense I think

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Speaker 3: has probably prevailed. I want your thoughts though throughout the

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Speaker 3: afternoon and we'll go to Jenny Wiley soon as well,

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Speaker 3: the CEO of Netball New Zealand. She's standing by to

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Speaker 3: discuss how they reached the conclusion, what it means and

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Speaker 3: what changes will we made to the siwer Ferns environment

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Speaker 3: to allow Dame Noling Polder to come back. As you

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Speaker 3: heard in the news in sunder Lam's twenty twenty five minutes,

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Speaker 3: Joseph Parker suffering what we can probably term a shock

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Speaker 3: loss to Fabio Wardley in London. Wardley's a good fighter.

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Speaker 3: Joseph Parker, though, was expected to take this about out.

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Speaker 3: We'll get you to the od To Arena. What does

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Speaker 3: this mean for Joseph Parker his career. Liam Napier is

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Speaker 3: our man on the grounds in London. He'll tell us

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Speaker 3: exactly how it unfolded and what it means. Canterby take

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Speaker 3: out the NPC deserved one is after having the better

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Speaker 3: of the second half. But if that doesn't make you

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Speaker 3: fall in love with the NPC again, no matter your allegiance,

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Speaker 3: the crowd, the noise, the sunshine, the occasion will take

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Speaker 3: you to Canterbury today. I'm sure, the celebrations have been

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Speaker 3: going on heartily throughout the night the one day as

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Speaker 3: black Caps in England start today too, Let's hope we

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Speaker 3: get some cricket after the damp squib that was the

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Speaker 3: T twenty series. Black Caps coach Rob Walter joined us.

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Speaker 3: We'll also head inside Wellington Phoenix camp as well before

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Speaker 3: the show is out. They have their first home game

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Speaker 3: of season twenty twenty five at twenty six in the

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Speaker 3: A League as well. Phoenix captain Alex Ruffert to join

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Speaker 3: the program. Your calls and texts are encouraged right throughout

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Speaker 3: around the Sporting Globe this afternoon, but your calls and

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Speaker 3: texts make the show what it is. We look forward

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Speaker 3: to channing throughout the program, but as it ticks over

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Speaker 3: ten after midday, let's get into it on New Talks EDB.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line. You made a call

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Speaker 3: Well The email drops at six o'clock last night from Netburne,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. The media release Netborne New Zealand is pleased

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Speaker 3: to confirm Dame no Ling Poldor will return as silver

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Speaker 3: silver Ferns currently competing international internationally. Interim coaching appointments will

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Speaker 3: Over the past two months, Netborn New Zealand and Dame

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Speaker 3: Norlean have been working on changes to the Silver Ferns

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Speaker 3: program and environment. They and it goes on, have agreed

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Speaker 3: to implement enhancements to support well being and performance, including

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Speaker 3: strengthening the player voice. Joining us now to explain what

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Speaker 3: Netball New Zealand, Jenny Wiley on new stalk Zebbe. Jenny,

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Speaker 3: thank you for your time this afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: How did you arrive at this decision to putting Dame

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Speaker 4: Well, it's clearly something that we've been working on over

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Speaker 3: Did you have to meet in the middle Howard negotiations.

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Speaker 4: Well, as you know, in a high performance environment, you're

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Speaker 4: Dame Nolean and for the athletes, it was important to

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Speaker 3: Your media release is Nepble and New Zealand and Dame

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Speaker 3: Nolean have agreed to implement enhancements to support well being

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Speaker 3: outline what exactly that means for us, Jenny, Well, there's a.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think across thought there is a heightened

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Speaker 4: So we are looking at a working group of how

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Speaker 4: we pull those enhancements together and what they might look

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Speaker 4: like to make sure that going forward this environment is

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Speaker 3: Does this mean that the players basically have more say

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Speaker 4: Well, I think for everyone to perform at your best,

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Speaker 4: at your best, and we've got to adapt our way

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Speaker 4: of working to make sure that we enable that. So

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Speaker 4: there will be increased level of engagement with players and

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Speaker 4: management to allow us to facilitate those changes.

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Speaker 3: Does this suggest that Dame Nolean's methods or coaching style

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Speaker 4: I think what this tells us is we can't we

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Speaker 4: can't rest on our laurels. We can't do what we've

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Speaker 4: done historically and moving forward, we must continue to grow

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Speaker 4: and adapt and be different so that these civil fans

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: Are you happy with the resolution that's been reached?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think we.

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Speaker 4: Have every confidence that we now have agreement collectively on

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Speaker 4: the changes that are required for us to move forward,

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Speaker 4: and you know that we have a pathway to reach that.

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Speaker 3: Why is she only taking over again once the Northern

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, it has been a really difficult time for everyone,

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Speaker 5: Disruption for the Silver Ferns.

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Speaker 4: They have a really tight turnaround off the end of

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Speaker 4: to the Northern Tour, so we all agreed that that

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Speaker 2: Disruption for them an event.

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Speaker 3: Mccaus and jury and that her assistant Leana are happy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've we've always been in contact with our coaches

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Speaker 4: to make sure that they're in a really challenging environment

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Speaker 4: they're really confident that they've got clarity of what they're

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Speaker 3: So Damielan's back in the job effective immediately, but not

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Speaker 3: coaching again for a few months. So what does she

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Speaker 3: for the Commonwealth Games next year? What will what will

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Speaker 3: your expectations be?

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Speaker 4: Oh, in the intervening period, we will be working really

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Speaker 4: closely on the enhancements and changes in that environment. We'll

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Speaker 4: be doing that together.

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Speaker 3: Do you stand by the decision to stand her down

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Speaker 4: Jenny, Look, we you know, I think I think we're

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Speaker 4: really clear that we could. We had concerns raised that

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Speaker 4: warranted us taking them seriously. Neple New Zealand has a

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Speaker 4: and the timing, we think NEPLE will be better for

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Speaker 3: In the media releases, says nothing was found during the

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Speaker 3: did you find during that process?

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Speaker 4: Look, I think, as you will appreciate throughout, we are

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Speaker 4: we have plans in place and we are able to

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Speaker 4: address them. And that has always been the most important

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Speaker 4: thing for us. This was always about how do we listen,

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Speaker 4: learn and grow.

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Speaker 3: Has trust been broken? Do you think on either side

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Speaker 3: as a result of this process?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's been challenging to everyone, hasn't it. Sure,

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Speaker 4: and none of us wanted to be doing this out

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Speaker 4: always maintained that this was always about bringing Nolline back

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Speaker 4: into the environment and in order to do that where

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Speaker 4: we need to be able to rebuild and move forward.

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Speaker 4: But I think what we do know is as we

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Speaker 4: we can do that together.

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Speaker 3: Did the comments from Mark Mitchell the Sports Minister this

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Look, it has been amazing to have the support of

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Speaker 4: Mark and Mark Mitchell and Sport New Zealands. But we

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Speaker 4: were really close to a resolution anyway before those comments

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Speaker 3: Jenny Wiley with us. Jenny, how will you reintroduce Dame

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Speaker 3: Nolean Todo into the environment? Do you have to Well,

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Speaker 3: you know, I guess it's not until the players return

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Speaker 3: like that, So to reintroduce Dame Nolean into the environment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what we have got is time while

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Speaker 4: ensure that we give this you know, heir to these

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Speaker 3: As have you spoken to any players as a result

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Speaker 3: of this and what was their reaction to this news?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it was really important as key stakeholders

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Speaker 4: that players were aware they weren't surprised by any any position.

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Speaker 4: But as you will also acknowledge, they're in camp for

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Speaker 4: the Soul Ferns and they have Australia tomorrow, so they

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Speaker 4: now feel equipped to be able to address this and

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Speaker 4: then probably most of them are stoked that there's a resolution.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's the focus now of getting out

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Speaker 3: Jenny, do you think Netborn New Zealand's reputation has taken

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Speaker 3: a hit from this whole saga and how hard has

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Speaker 3: public feeling around this dissipate through talk back through social

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Speaker 3: And now you can focus on the tea this afternoon

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Speaker 2: Go well, thank you.

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Speaker 9: I was good until I heard her talking right? Put

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Speaker 14: Janey, Yeah, good afternoon. I've never talked to you before,

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Speaker 3: Are you happy to see Dame Nolean told her back

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Speaker 5: While we're waiting, of course you should be.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Janie, nice to chat with you this afternoon

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Speaker 15: Yeah, Elliott, Well, Dame Nolean's old school coaching methods last

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Speaker 15: And you know, you've got to wonder, do you think

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Grant. So are you happy though that Dame

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Speaker 8: Heard nothing from that, absolutely, And can I just say

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Speaker 8: The process for next year with the Commonwealth Games, with

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and didn't Gail prior to say that this whole

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Speaker 8: You know, I just don't understand it, and I don't

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Speaker 3: like you're having to re introduce a new face into

439
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Speaker 3: the environment. They know who Dame Nolean told her is

440
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Speaker 3: I don't get that. It's coming up half past twelve

441
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Speaker 3: on News Dogs Pete hang on there, back with you

442
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Speaker 3: after this.

443
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444
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445
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Speaker 3: We are talking the reinstatement of Dame Nolean toldal As

446
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Speaker 3: silver Fern's coach. Sort of reinstatement. She has to wait

447
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Speaker 3: till next year, but she does have her job back. Afternoon, Pete,

448
00:23:43,587 --> 00:23:46,107
Speaker 3: thanks for hanging on here again.

449
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Speaker 7: You're regarding No, she should be back in the job now,

450
00:23:48,867 --> 00:23:53,547
Speaker 7: decisions been made. No more this wokeness previously that came on.

451
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Speaker 17: As you started.

452
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Speaker 7: She's part of the problem. She's woke for us. I'm

453
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Speaker 7: con soon Mark much has made made the decision. I

454
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Speaker 7: think so she should be back in there. Bulls and

455
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Speaker 7: horns and the young these players that I don't like

456
00:24:08,547 --> 00:24:10,467
Speaker 7: who we're coaching, maybe they should be put out of

457
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Speaker 7: the team. Get some players that were more than wearing

458
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Speaker 7: the all black shirt on. If they don't like the coach,

459
00:24:17,227 --> 00:24:19,667
Speaker 7: omitted the coaches the coach and they don't like it,

460
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Speaker 7: I think some of the players should be moved on

461
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Speaker 7: and gets someone is willing to take the coach's advice

462
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Speaker 7: or what there are ways of coaching.

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Speaker 3: Is Yeah, I don't know how we've got to the

464
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Speaker 3: point where players and look, we don't know the nature

465
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Speaker 3: of these complaints, which is one of the frustrating things, Pete,

466
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Speaker 3: But that the players have this voice. Surely the ultimate

467
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Speaker 3: final say is with the coach for any high performance

468
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Speaker 3: team one hundred percent.

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Speaker 7: You know the players don't There's too much I shouldn't

470
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Speaker 7: say that there's too much of this wopeness. How the

471
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Speaker 7: kids have been brought up today. You know in Paris

472
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Speaker 7: angst and the coach is the coach. You don't know

473
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Speaker 7: where they way of coaching, Well, move on, find another

474
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Speaker 7: team where you might like the coach. It's not so

475
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Speaker 7: soft on you. But the coach is the coach. She

476
00:25:01,467 --> 00:25:03,347
Speaker 7: makes the calls, and if you don't like the calls,

477
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Speaker 7: go and join another team. And it's quite as I

478
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Speaker 7: said before, in more more than other ladies were quite

479
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Speaker 7: wanting to wear that shirt and they respect the coach

480
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Speaker 7: and they're not in the co and the coach watch

481
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Speaker 7: how she's what he's gone through his disgusting bars on

482
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Speaker 7: the scene.

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Speaker 3: Pete, thank you very much. Oh one hundred and eighty

484
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Speaker 3: ten eighty. We do have one line three afternoon, John,

485
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Speaker 3: how are you.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, afternoon? I'd just like to have my say on it.

487
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Speaker 17: I think that the whole thing relies or rests fairly

488
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Speaker 17: with the CEO. After the last World Cup netball I

489
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Speaker 17: think finished New Zealand netball I think finished fourth, sorry,

490
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Speaker 17: the fourth of the last World Cup and third at

491
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Speaker 17: the last Commonwealth Games, and there was no inquiry into

492
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Speaker 17: the team's contribution or any discrepancy that there might be

493
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Speaker 17: between the team. And we move on to twenty twenty

494
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Speaker 17: five when a handful of players, which seemingly and I'm

495
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Speaker 17: only just going on what I've heard the same, they

496
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Speaker 17: have a bit of a say about the process and

497
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Speaker 17: the CEO buckles down. Then the CEO, in an announcement

498
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Speaker 17: this morning which I agree with everyone means nothing, has

499
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Speaker 17: completely set day Noline up to fail by giving saying

500
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Speaker 17: that they shall have the team back, but just ten

501
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Speaker 17: minutes before they help on the plane to go back

502
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Speaker 17: to the Commonwealth Games. It's appalling. And the Commonwealth Games

503
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Speaker 17: are being held or this tour is being held at

504
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Speaker 17: the same venue. From what I understand is the Commonwealth

505
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Speaker 17: Games is surely, surely she should be on that plane

506
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Speaker 17: going to the Northern Tour. It's part of the coaching team.

507
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Speaker 17: If not the coaching team. I think she's been set

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Speaker 17: up to fail.

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Speaker 3: I don't get and you're right, John, I think this

510
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Speaker 3: is important for her to be on this too. And

511
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Speaker 3: games are going to be at a premium next year.

512
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Speaker 3: She's not going to have a lot of time coaching

513
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Speaker 3: this team ahead of the mid year Commonwealth Games. Surely

514
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Speaker 3: three days, whatever it is, get her and Cam, get

515
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Speaker 3: then around the table and hatch these issues out before

516
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Speaker 3: you jump on the plane to the northern hemisphere.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: I agree that the announcement, the announcement and the acceptance

519
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Speaker 17: of it by netball at the high level is just

520
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Speaker 17: you know, out of all of this, I see one

521
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Speaker 17: organization that would be paved off the way this has gone,

522
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Speaker 17: and that would be sky Sport, Because about two or

523
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Speaker 17: three weeks before all this debarkle came out, they agreed

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Speaker 17: to an agreement with Netpork. I bet they were wishing

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Speaker 17: that they'd put it off to.

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Speaker 3: Now, John, thank you for your call this afternoon, Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine, so for

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Speaker 3: a text message afternoon, Calvin.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, very good afternoon to you. Elliott. Yet, right from

530
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Speaker 13: day one, I thought to myself that a lot of

531
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Speaker 13: young people nowadays don't like being told what to do

532
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Speaker 13: and what not to do. So I thought that could

533
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Speaker 13: have been the problem or the only alternative I thought,

534
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Speaker 13: which I'm sure is not the case with Dame Nolene,

535
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Speaker 13: who herself and the woman's age, what she is at

536
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Speaker 13: the moment, what happens to women, But I'm sure that's

537
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Speaker 13: not the case. But anyway, I can't understand why Dame

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Speaker 13: Nolen hasn't been put in this coach, you know, because

539
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Speaker 13: for the northern tour to Glasgow, and that's twenty days

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Speaker 13: or three weeks away, plenty of time. I can't see

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Speaker 13: why why she hasn't been Rion say to this coach,

542
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Speaker 13: you know almost immediately.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's right. She lives in Hamilton, lives in Whiteatto,

544
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Speaker 3: as far as I'm still aware, Calvin, they're playing in

545
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Speaker 3: Hamilton at four o'clock this afternoon. She probably could have

546
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Speaker 3: taken over this afternoon and got back into the role.

547
00:28:49,747 --> 00:28:53,707
Speaker 3: A lot of text messages here. Jenny Wiley did not

548
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Speaker 3: at any time in the interview support the return of

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Speaker 3: Dame no Lean. I fear that Dame Nolen has been

550
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Speaker 3: treated appallingly and some players still seem to hold too

551
00:29:02,467 --> 00:29:05,267
Speaker 3: much way. Surely says if our Dame Nolean is the coach,

552
00:29:05,347 --> 00:29:08,467
Speaker 3: then she should be back now now time for the

553
00:29:08,627 --> 00:29:12,187
Speaker 3: chair and ceo to go. And another one says, no,

554
00:29:12,267 --> 00:29:14,707
Speaker 3: it's not the right solution. My opinion, Jimmy Wiley should

555
00:29:14,707 --> 00:29:17,947
Speaker 3: be sacked. The whole saga is disgusting and too much secrecy.

556
00:29:17,947 --> 00:29:21,267
Speaker 3: I know my colleague Nathan Limm has spoken to Matt

557
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Speaker 3: Winney this morning and asked whether Jimmy Wider is going

558
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Speaker 3: to has the support of Netballe New Zealand's board. It

559
00:29:25,987 --> 00:29:30,547
Speaker 3: sounds like she still does. But yeah, Paula with says, Hi,

560
00:29:30,747 --> 00:29:32,907
Speaker 3: how amazing that Ms Whydy can give an interview and

561
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Speaker 3: not say anything, just a lot of flannel and Lorraine

562
00:29:36,827 --> 00:29:39,267
Speaker 3: great she's back. What about the contract? Isn't it meant

563
00:29:39,307 --> 00:29:41,627
Speaker 3: to be renewed or not in genuary? It's an interesting

564
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Speaker 3: point the right, I'll have the double chair. I think

565
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Speaker 3: she's through to the Comwalth Games, so I'm going to

566
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Speaker 3: double check on that for you. Let's go to Keen afternoon, Ken.

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon. Look, I think the whole thing's been fiasco.

568
00:29:53,507 --> 00:29:57,867
Speaker 5: What she needs to be held account accountable for as

569
00:29:57,907 --> 00:30:02,147
Speaker 5: well the CEO, I mean, and her board is why

570
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Speaker 5: it took two months and what and included in that

571
00:30:05,627 --> 00:30:09,507
Speaker 5: two months was a ten hour meeting. I mean, you know,

572
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Speaker 5: with great respect to the sport, it's not the United Nations.

573
00:30:13,707 --> 00:30:17,267
Speaker 5: They need to be more decisive because the one thing

574
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Speaker 5: that can affect Team Barraw is in decisiveness. They get

575
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Speaker 5: confidence from decisive action and knowing that you know they've

576
00:30:26,787 --> 00:30:31,107
Speaker 5: got a good organization, a strong organization behind them. To

577
00:30:31,147 --> 00:30:37,427
Speaker 5: be honest with you, that bore New Zealand disappearing this week. Yeah,

578
00:30:37,547 --> 00:30:39,747
Speaker 5: that's my opinion, and I'm an netball fan, but I

579
00:30:39,827 --> 00:30:44,347
Speaker 5: really feel for Dan Noline and the earlier callers said.

580
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Speaker 5: The way it's been structured now is she's really been

581
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Speaker 5: set up to sail. It's just not there.

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Speaker 3: So you think she should be back in the job

583
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Speaker 3: as of today or for at least in Northern Tiloken, at.

584
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Speaker 5: Least in northern Northern Tour. I think today's probably at Littleston.

585
00:31:00,387 --> 00:31:04,187
Speaker 5: But yeah, but a three day turnaround that she should

586
00:31:04,267 --> 00:31:06,627
Speaker 5: be definitely installed for that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, nice to talk to you this afternoon. Ken a

588
00:31:10,027 --> 00:31:12,067
Speaker 3: lot of textan on nine to nine, so I'm going

589
00:31:12,107 --> 00:31:15,907
Speaker 3: to try and catch up with them. An interesting point here,

590
00:31:16,107 --> 00:31:17,467
Speaker 3: it's not signed, but I'm going to read it out.

591
00:31:17,507 --> 00:31:19,307
Speaker 3: Neble and New Zealand have done the right thing by

592
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Speaker 3: standing down total as she was not accepting the new

593
00:31:21,947 --> 00:31:25,187
Speaker 3: culture rules of professional sport introduced into the Olivia Podmore case,

594
00:31:25,227 --> 00:31:27,907
Speaker 3: all professional sports bodies have to take on these new

595
00:31:27,987 --> 00:31:31,667
Speaker 3: rules around player safety and well being not just Netball

596
00:31:31,747 --> 00:31:33,827
Speaker 3: unfortunately told her it is also on the board. At

597
00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:35,427
Speaker 3: the time, it was acknowledged that this could prove a

598
00:31:35,467 --> 00:31:38,307
Speaker 3: difficult situation. Coaches should not also be on the Netball

599
00:31:38,347 --> 00:31:40,427
Speaker 3: New Zealand board. As a result, Netble in New Zealand,

600
00:31:40,667 --> 00:31:44,227
Speaker 3: under challenging circumstances, have been very professional in dealing with

601
00:31:44,267 --> 00:31:47,107
Speaker 3: Nolean's attitude which is old hat. Now that's an interesting

602
00:31:47,147 --> 00:31:50,627
Speaker 3: opinion which goes against the grain of what we are

603
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Speaker 3: getting this afternoon. Finn with this, Jenny Widy needs to

604
00:31:53,347 --> 00:31:55,867
Speaker 3: go and get Nolean and straight away chasing with us

605
00:31:56,147 --> 00:31:58,907
Speaker 3: high alerct congratulations on being the New AB's coach for

606
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Speaker 3: the Northern tour. We don't want you to attend any

607
00:32:00,707 --> 00:32:02,987
Speaker 3: of the trainings or be involved in selecting the team,

608
00:32:03,587 --> 00:32:06,987
Speaker 3: but we will call you the coach. Another with us

609
00:32:06,987 --> 00:32:10,027
Speaker 3: not convincing. CEO very poorly managed to allow the situation

610
00:32:10,107 --> 00:32:12,067
Speaker 3: to blow out the way it did and now make

611
00:32:12,107 --> 00:32:14,707
Speaker 3: comments that it was always about getting time. It tells

612
00:32:14,707 --> 00:32:16,787
Speaker 3: me some very poor decisions and judgment by the chief

613
00:32:16,827 --> 00:32:19,787
Speaker 3: executive or other managers that are involved in the scenario

614
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Speaker 3: to allow it to blow out the way it did.

615
00:32:21,667 --> 00:32:23,667
Speaker 3: And also they didn't do a thorough investigation. If they

616
00:32:23,667 --> 00:32:25,627
Speaker 3: only spoke to seven players and not the wider group

617
00:32:25,667 --> 00:32:28,747
Speaker 3: as claimed and only back seems quite lamed. Their comments

618
00:32:28,747 --> 00:32:32,547
Speaker 3: were all a bit flaky to me. Nine two nine

619
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Speaker 3: two for a text message was trying to find one

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Speaker 3: that I did stand out. This is from Jordan Elliott.

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Speaker 3: Jinny is the absolute best interviewing for fifteen minutes, not

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Speaker 3: having said anything, so hard to listen, same as last

623
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Speaker 3: time with Pineyer. Zero transparency, painful cheers Jordan. We'll take

624
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Speaker 3: a brick bake here on news Talk zib There are

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Speaker 3: a lot more texts that might get to to round

626
00:32:55,587 --> 00:32:58,267
Speaker 3: out the hour here on news Talk zib there's eighteen

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Speaker 3: away from one. After the break, we're going to change

628
00:33:00,947 --> 00:33:03,427
Speaker 3: tack even so slightly and talk some cricket here on

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Speaker 3: news Talk Zibbig.

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Speaker 2: Shoes on and after field call.

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Speaker 1: Gj gunnomes New Zealand's most trusted home Milder News Talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 3: It is fifteen away from one on news Talk Ziba.

633
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Speaker 3: The text as still flooding in. I will get to

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Speaker 3: some more before we break for the news Sport and

635
00:33:22,027 --> 00:33:25,787
Speaker 3: we're they're at one o'clock on the Netball scenari Ago

636
00:33:25,867 --> 00:33:28,947
Speaker 3: but leads to our attention to crickets and the one

637
00:33:29,027 --> 00:33:32,707
Speaker 3: day series between New Zealand and England gets underway at

638
00:33:32,747 --> 00:33:35,267
Speaker 3: Bay Oval and just over an hour's time at least

639
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Speaker 3: where they're permitting. Joining us now is crick and for

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Speaker 3: cricket journalist Camp ponsenb Cam Good afternoon, Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 17: He h.

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Speaker 16: How are you going on?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? Thank you? Well, you're in Mount mong andui.

644
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Speaker 3: Are we going to get some cricket today? A full match? Potentially?

645
00:33:51,107 --> 00:33:53,267
Speaker 19: Amazingly, we're going to get a full match of cricket.

646
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Speaker 20: Well, according to the weather at the moment, it's bright

647
00:33:55,627 --> 00:33:59,147
Speaker 20: sunshine space to day. There's no rain forecast. But at

648
00:33:59,147 --> 00:34:01,467
Speaker 20: the same time I've been learning never to believe any

649
00:34:01,507 --> 00:34:04,067
Speaker 20: of the New Zealand weather forecasts. So I might be

650
00:34:04,147 --> 00:34:05,787
Speaker 20: lying to everyone, but at the moment I think we're

651
00:34:05,787 --> 00:34:06,187
Speaker 20: going to play.

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Speaker 3: Haven't exactly turned it on for you the last week

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Speaker 3: or so around the country. What did England learn from

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Speaker 3: that T twenty series.

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Speaker 20: It's going to sound a bit tweet and rubbish, but

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Speaker 20: they basically have focused on probably more of a team

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Speaker 20: team bonding. Elliott in that over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 20: the White ball team has been so kind of mismashed.

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Speaker 20: There's been a load of ODII series played when Test

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Speaker 20: series have been happening as well, so kind of a

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Speaker 20: second stream squad went out to the West Indies last year.

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Speaker 19: There was an ODII.

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Speaker 20: Series against the Netherlands a few years ago when they

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Speaker 20: were also playing a Test match in Manchester.

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Speaker 19: So basically Brendan.

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Speaker 20: McCullum and Harry Brook got the squad together a few

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Speaker 20: days in advance. They went down to Queenstown, they played golf,

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Speaker 20: they had a few beers and the idea is basically

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Speaker 20: trying to create a stable, settled tea. So on the

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Speaker 20: pitch they learned pretty much nothing because they only played

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Speaker 20: about six year olds of cricket.

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Speaker 19: But they are saying, and they said this ahead of time, that.

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Speaker 20: The point of this trip is as much to kind

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Speaker 20: of gel together as a group and actually get a

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Speaker 20: bit of a settled eleven as much as it is

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Speaker 20: winning on.

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Speaker 3: The pitch because England haven't been vets convincing it one

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Speaker 3: day international level under Britain mccallumis you'd have They.

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Speaker 20: Well, it's amazing kind of without any nuance, you don't

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Speaker 20: need any caveats England have just been bad at ODII

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Speaker 20: cricket for a couple of years now.

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Speaker 11: I think the.

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Speaker 19: Stat is they've won eight of their last twenty three.

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Speaker 20: So T twenty cricket they've actually be pretty good but

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Speaker 20: ODII cricket because again, like the squad's been subject to

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Speaker 20: so much change. They'd never read out their first eleven

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Speaker 20: until kind of this summer when Brook and McCollum took

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Speaker 20: over as a pair. They beat the West Indies at

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Speaker 20: the West Indies are pretty week and then South Africa.

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Speaker 19: Turned them over. England are.

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Speaker 20: They'll have to change today because Will Jackson's injured, so

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Speaker 20: probably we're expecting Sam Carnal come in. But they've gone

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Speaker 20: for this like hyper aggressive tactic of basically having seven

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Speaker 20: specialist batters and four specialist bowlers and making up the

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Speaker 20: last ten overs with.

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Speaker 19: Basically just like whoever is available, and that kind of

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Speaker 19: of kicked.

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Speaker 20: Him in the backside against Africa because Jacob Bethel and

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Speaker 20: Will Jackson bowling like this part time spin and South

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Speaker 20: Africa absolutely whacked it. So they're going to have to

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Speaker 20: change it a little bit for you guys. This afternoon'll

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Speaker 20: probably be a bit more Banns for the bowling lineup.

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Speaker 18: But yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 19: They on paper they're good. They should be really good.

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Speaker 20: They've got amazing players, but they've just really enjoyed losing

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Speaker 20: of late, so we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I know this is a different format, but how important

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Speaker 3: is this for some of these players like Joe Root,

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Speaker 3: Jeoff Ratcher. I don't think he's playing today some others

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Speaker 3: to get some game time ahead of the series.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, we asked yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 20: We asked Joe Route this yesterday and I was ready

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Speaker 20: and rare to him to be like, it's all good preparation.

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Speaker 20: I just don't want to get the mind adjusted and

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Speaker 20: settled into into international cricket, and then unfortunately just went Nah.

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Speaker 19: Doesn't help battle.

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Speaker 20: Completely different format, different country, different teams. There's no translation

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Speaker 20: with how I'm going to do here of how things

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Speaker 20: are going to go in the.

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Speaker 19: Ashes, which I think.

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Speaker 20: I think that's an honest answer, because I don't think

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Speaker 20: he has anything to gain by saying it one way

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Speaker 20: or the other. It is partly the media's fault and

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Speaker 20: me is one of them out here that every time

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00:37:21,747 --> 00:37:23,947
Speaker 20: we speak to England player, realistically, we are all a

726
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Speaker 20: bit obsessed with the Ashes at the moment. So we're

727
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Speaker 20: asking them questions about Australia and they're giving us answers about

728
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Speaker 20: New Zealand. But yeah, there's no way, there's no way

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Speaker 20: if Joe Root and Harry Brooks scores some runs that

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Speaker 20: can bear bad thing for first a month's.

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Speaker 3: Time And Cameron give us the English perspective on New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: What are you expecting from the black Caps over this

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Speaker 3: one day series.

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Speaker 20: Well, it's a bit of a mystery because that you

735
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Speaker 20: guys haven't played since the Champions Trophy about six months ago.

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Speaker 20: And to be honest, I've I've been having a bit

737
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Speaker 20: of a crash course in kind of New Zealand cricket. While

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Speaker 20: so I've been over here, I've been learning all about

739
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Speaker 20: how October is not the traditional cricket season, and that

740
00:37:59,427 --> 00:38:02,107
Speaker 20: is well it's spring basically and it keeps raining for

741
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Speaker 20: that reason, and the kind of sparsity of cricket over

742
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Speaker 20: the summer there's no more. There's no international home cricket

743
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Speaker 20: in January or February here this year in parts of

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Speaker 20: the World Cup, and that's the second year in a

745
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Speaker 20: row on pay for you guys, Like it's one of

746
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Speaker 20: those weird ones. I think everyone kind of bullies or

747
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Speaker 20: things they can bully, using them a little bit, and

748
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Speaker 20: then they always end up in an ICC final and

749
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Speaker 20: then they beat England and England museums like really historic

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Speaker 20: matches in the recent past. So I'm expected one team

751
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Speaker 20: is going to win too. One that is that set

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Speaker 20: on the fence enough.

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Speaker 3: I think that's good. I think that's good. Camera, appreciate

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Speaker 3: your time and look, we'll catch up, I'm sure again sooner.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy the cricket the stafter the camera and pons from

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Speaker 3: crick and Foe and you can catch them on at

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Speaker 3: cameraon pontibly around the trips as well first balls at two.

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00:38:48,907 --> 00:38:50,827
Speaker 3: Roll Walser, the Black keeps coach, is going to join

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Speaker 3: us next hour as well as we talk a bit

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Speaker 3: more cricket ahead of the one day series that was

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Speaker 3: the England perspective. We'll take a break, come back wrap

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Speaker 3: up the hour. Few more ticks that I want to

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Speaker 3: get to before we wrap things up at for the

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Speaker 3: New Sport and with it at one. It's coming up

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Speaker 3: nine away from.

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Speaker 1: Once analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World.

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Speaker 2: Weekend Sport Call eighty us talk zby.

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Speaker 3: We are rapidly approaching the New Sports and with at

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Speaker 3: one o'clock Tony with this on nine two nine two.

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Speaker 3: Now that's all sorted. When can we hear from Dame

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Speaker 3: nol Lean Tony. My information is that she is going

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Speaker 3: to front media at some point this week. Couldn't give

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Speaker 3: you a date, but she was unavailable for us today, unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: would have been great to get both sides of the story.

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Speaker 3: Hamish with this high Alliott, you want to waste of

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Speaker 3: it until you talk to Jimmy Wiley. A bunch of

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Speaker 3: cliche one line has joined together to make a sentence

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Speaker 3: told her last six months with the players getting more safe,

779
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Speaker 3: she wants them fitter, but some of them don't like it.

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Speaker 3: That's always been Dame Noling Podo's thing is that the

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Speaker 3: fitness level ever since she I think she went when

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Speaker 3: she was with the Magic, the way kind of Bay

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Speaker 3: of plenty magic. She she instilled that into them and

784
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Speaker 3: she took it across the Tasman to the Sunshine Coast,

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Speaker 3: Lightning and the silver Fins. This is there been players

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Speaker 3: that have missed out on opportunities because of this, because

787
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Speaker 3: of her fitness standards. Yet her results speak for itself.

788
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Speaker 3: Now the World Cup in twenty three. They obviously finished

789
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Speaker 3: fourth there, but she won in twenty nineteen. You've got

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Speaker 3: to back the results at that point. Now the text

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Speaker 3: on nine two nine two Alli, Yet nothing's been said.

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Speaker 3: Will Nolin retained the same assistant coaches Chris. My understanding

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Speaker 3: is yes, but we'll watch the space on that front.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's one for Dame Nolean to answer. Another

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Speaker 3: one with Rick says Knickbourne, New Zealand are guilty of

796
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Speaker 3: micro managing Dame Nolean and the silver fans. The saga

797
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Speaker 3: has achieved mistrust and amplified how dysfunctional the woke New

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Speaker 3: Zealand borders. The board chair and CEO should resign. Afternoon, Elli,

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Speaker 3: get get rid of them all the boards Nolan told

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Speaker 3: her are bringing you blood. Watch the space that is

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Speaker 3: from Flora and hot good afternoon. If nickbol New Zealand

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Speaker 3: thinks this miss is going to disappear with their announcement,

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00:41:06,027 --> 00:41:08,747
Speaker 3: they are wrong, not until there are some answers or

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Speaker 3: someone is held to account. Another one says, did they

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Speaker 3: get those questions in advance? I can tell you that

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00:41:17,267 --> 00:41:21,147
Speaker 3: they didn't, but I think we got some fairly standard

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00:41:21,187 --> 00:41:26,867
Speaker 3: responses that may have you some similar words throughout some

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Speaker 3: of the questions that I asked this afternoon, pretty frustrating News,

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Speaker 3: Sport and weather. Next on News Talks MB.

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Speaker 1: Which is the only place to discuss the biggest sports

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Speaker 1: issues on and after field. It's all on we join

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Speaker 1: sport on your home resport News Talks MB were going on.

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Speaker 3: Well, welcome back in coming up seven after one on

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Speaker 3: news Talk see. We just want to close the loop

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Speaker 3: before we get into things. I got w Liam Napier

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Speaker 3: standing by to talk boxing. He was at the O

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Speaker 3: two arena as Joseph Parker lost TKO to Farigo Wardley.

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Speaker 3: He's going to join the program in a moment or two.

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Speaker 3: Rob Walter ahead of first ball in the one day

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Speaker 3: series at two o'clock as well, and James mcconey will

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Speaker 3: join us before the hour is happened. As I say,

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Speaker 3: a lot of text on nine two nine two before

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Speaker 3: we finish up on the netball. Peter with this, mcausden

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Speaker 3: jury was put in with only a few days notice

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Speaker 3: and she had no pre established platform, So the argument

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Speaker 3: against putting Noeline in with three days notice is a nonsense.

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Speaker 3: Good point, Paul, Peter, rob So with this under no

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Speaker 3: Lean's coaching, silver Fans won bronze medal at the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two Birmingham Commonwealth Games and at twenty twenty three

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Speaker 3: Netbow World Cup the Silver Fans finished fourth there wast

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Speaker 3: ever in history. I thought she would have been replaced them.

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Speaker 3: Good listening, she is Sue Nathan see his total guests

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Speaker 3: work from the callers. The reality is we have no

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Speaker 3: idea what's happened. Well, you're right, and I thought this

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Speaker 3: would have been the opportunity to at least outline that

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Speaker 3: from netball in New Zealand, but they didn't. Last text

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Speaker 3: on the matter. This is from jan High, my first

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Speaker 3: time on here. I wonder if some players will sit

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Speaker 3: down after the Northern tour with Knoles coming back, which

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Speaker 3: is why they won't bring you in now, because if

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Speaker 3: Gils decide not to play now we will know exactly

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Speaker 3: who's been at the forefront of this. Such a shame.

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00:43:16,227 --> 00:43:18,747
Speaker 3: Nols will be going into the combath Games not having

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Speaker 3: coached any previous tests following this absolute debarkle. If we

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Speaker 3: have more time, might get to a few more a

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Speaker 3: bit later on, but it is ignited. The text line

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Speaker 3: on nine to nine two this afternoon. We'll keep you

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Speaker 3: up to that with World A Game two of the

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Speaker 3: World Series. Paul Cole is also in action in the

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Speaker 3: US Open squash. I think it's a semi finals stage.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep across that for you as well until we

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Speaker 3: wrap up at three here on news talk zbe where

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Speaker 3: it is eight after one. Let's go to the O

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Speaker 3: two Arena in London. These the stunning scenes this morning, heavy.

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Speaker 2: Way platters away sers Savage.

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Speaker 1: U Beta and that's the opportunity challenging from the upscute

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Speaker 1: of Heavyweight Championship.

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Speaker 19: Of the.

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Speaker 3: That was on design this morning. Joseph Parker beat him

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Speaker 3: this morning and stunning scenes at the OTO Arena in

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Speaker 3: London against Farbio Wardley. This is obviously a vital fight

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Speaker 3: for Parker and Wardley of course says to whether who

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Speaker 3: was going to get that spot for the world title

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Speaker 3: fight against Alexander Usik and Joseph Parker loses in the

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Speaker 3: eleventh round via t k Oh. Joining us now from

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Speaker 3: the go to arena in London is Liam Napier, who

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Speaker 3: was on the ground. Liam.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time afternoon, Elliott.

869
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Speaker 3: Were you stunned by that result?

870
00:45:07,907 --> 00:45:11,467
Speaker 21: Well, it's heavyweight boxing. Anything's possible, but there was certainly

871
00:45:11,507 --> 00:45:14,507
Speaker 21: an upset. Joe Parker was a hot favorite with the bookies,

872
00:45:15,147 --> 00:45:19,827
Speaker 21: and on paper he had all the experience and he

873
00:45:19,987 --> 00:45:23,307
Speaker 21: was widely considered to be the superior skilled boxer. But

874
00:45:23,787 --> 00:45:28,387
Speaker 21: everyone also knew that Fabia Wadley has equalizing power, devastating

875
00:45:28,467 --> 00:45:32,907
Speaker 21: right hands, and that's ultimately how he got the job done.

876
00:45:33,507 --> 00:45:35,987
Speaker 3: It felt like Parker and looking at the scoring, at

877
00:45:36,027 --> 00:45:38,187
Speaker 3: least they were doing un design with the commentator, is

878
00:45:38,187 --> 00:45:40,547
Speaker 3: that Parker was ahead of the game to that point,

879
00:45:40,587 --> 00:45:42,027
Speaker 3: at least on points late in the fight.

880
00:45:42,147 --> 00:45:42,507
Speaker 10: Was that right?

881
00:45:43,787 --> 00:45:44,227
Speaker 22: That's all right?

882
00:45:44,347 --> 00:45:47,587
Speaker 21: Yes, I think he was well up on all cards,

883
00:45:47,947 --> 00:45:52,787
Speaker 21: probably four, maybe even five rounds with the judges.

884
00:45:54,547 --> 00:45:56,787
Speaker 18: But look, it was a very back and forth contest.

885
00:45:57,587 --> 00:45:59,707
Speaker 21: Joe came out with a flurry in the first round,

886
00:45:59,907 --> 00:46:02,747
Speaker 21: but then he was stunned in the second and actually

887
00:46:02,827 --> 00:46:05,267
Speaker 21: lost his mouth guard which allowed him time to recover.

888
00:46:05,787 --> 00:46:08,827
Speaker 21: Then I think he dominated largely the middle rounds and

889
00:46:08,947 --> 00:46:12,267
Speaker 21: then Fabio Wadley Justice he did in his last fight

890
00:46:12,347 --> 00:46:17,227
Speaker 21: against Australian Justice Hooney rallied late, landed those devastating punches

891
00:46:17,507 --> 00:46:21,267
Speaker 21: and Joe was stopped. I think it was one minute's

892
00:46:21,547 --> 00:46:23,907
Speaker 21: fifty odd seconds into the penultimate round.

893
00:46:23,987 --> 00:46:24,147
Speaker 11: Too.

894
00:46:25,027 --> 00:46:27,667
Speaker 21: Yeah, rob him, well, not rob him to take away

895
00:46:27,787 --> 00:46:33,267
Speaker 21: that elusive crack at the undisputed heavyweight king Alexander Usik.

896
00:46:33,507 --> 00:46:36,507
Speaker 3: Were you surprised by the decision to wave off the fight,

897
00:46:36,587 --> 00:46:38,627
Speaker 3: given Parker was ahead on points at that point and

898
00:46:39,347 --> 00:46:42,227
Speaker 3: there was no eight count, it was basically fights done.

899
00:46:43,827 --> 00:46:43,987
Speaker 18: Yeah.

900
00:46:44,067 --> 00:46:45,987
Speaker 21: Look, I think it wasn't early stoppage. I don't think

901
00:46:45,987 --> 00:46:48,107
Speaker 21: there's any disputing that, but.

902
00:46:49,907 --> 00:46:51,747
Speaker 18: Was on the ropes. He was taking a lot of

903
00:46:51,787 --> 00:46:54,347
Speaker 18: punishment and he wasn't firing a lot back.

904
00:46:54,467 --> 00:46:58,467
Speaker 21: I think one of the issues, one of the question

905
00:46:58,587 --> 00:47:01,987
Speaker 21: marks is Wadley's last little flurry. Probably his last three

906
00:47:02,027 --> 00:47:05,907
Speaker 21: punches were blocked, they didn't actually connect. Maybe in hindsight,

907
00:47:05,987 --> 00:47:08,947
Speaker 21: Parker could have should have taken a knee that would

908
00:47:08,947 --> 00:47:11,187
Speaker 21: have allowed him time to recover. And he was a

909
00:47:11,267 --> 00:47:14,067
Speaker 21: hit on all the cards, so he still could have

910
00:47:14,147 --> 00:47:17,467
Speaker 21: won the fights. But I think when you look around

911
00:47:17,507 --> 00:47:19,747
Speaker 21: the world that there is a bit of an outcry

912
00:47:19,867 --> 00:47:24,547
Speaker 21: from a lot of noted but boxing pundits and certainly

913
00:47:24,587 --> 00:47:27,107
Speaker 21: New Zealand fans who felt that stoppage was too early.

914
00:47:27,707 --> 00:47:30,067
Speaker 3: Have you spoken to the Parker camp, what's their reaction

915
00:47:30,187 --> 00:47:30,747
Speaker 3: to the defeat.

916
00:47:31,907 --> 00:47:35,227
Speaker 21: Yeah, I've just emerged from the post fight press conferences

917
00:47:35,347 --> 00:47:40,707
Speaker 21: and lot Parker's obviously very disappointed with the result. He

918
00:47:40,987 --> 00:47:45,027
Speaker 21: was he credited Fabia Wadley with the victory and committed

919
00:47:45,067 --> 00:47:47,227
Speaker 21: him on that, but he said he felt fine that

920
00:47:47,347 --> 00:47:49,507
Speaker 21: he wanted to carry on at the time of the stoppage.

921
00:47:49,547 --> 00:47:53,827
Speaker 21: So I guess you could say he was disappointed or

922
00:47:53,867 --> 00:47:58,187
Speaker 21: begrudging of the way the fight finished, but I guess

923
00:47:58,227 --> 00:47:59,387
Speaker 21: it was taken out of his hands.

924
00:47:59,787 --> 00:48:01,867
Speaker 3: So we're too now for Joseph Parker. Do you think

925
00:48:01,947 --> 00:48:05,827
Speaker 3: Liam that was a shots at the undisputed heavy wet

926
00:48:05,867 --> 00:48:09,907
Speaker 3: World Champampionship about against Alexanders. So where does Joseph Parker

927
00:48:09,987 --> 00:48:10,267
Speaker 3: go now?

928
00:48:12,067 --> 00:48:16,187
Speaker 21: Look, it is a devastating blow outlet because Parker, over

929
00:48:16,307 --> 00:48:19,107
Speaker 21: the course of since twenty twenty two has last lost

930
00:48:19,347 --> 00:48:21,667
Speaker 21: to Joe Joyce, has gone on a six fight wind streak.

931
00:48:22,627 --> 00:48:28,067
Speaker 21: He's beaten some of the most vaunted avoided heavyweights to put.

932
00:48:27,987 --> 00:48:31,867
Speaker 18: Himself right in the queue for that shot.

933
00:48:31,907 --> 00:48:36,067
Speaker 21: At USIK, he was undeniably the second best heavyweight on

934
00:48:36,147 --> 00:48:38,947
Speaker 21: the planet in terms of his status at least, and

935
00:48:39,067 --> 00:48:40,987
Speaker 21: now he really does go back to the pack, and

936
00:48:41,067 --> 00:48:42,507
Speaker 21: it is a very congested pack.

937
00:48:42,987 --> 00:48:45,987
Speaker 18: He has one more fight on his contract with Frank

938
00:48:46,027 --> 00:48:51,947
Speaker 18: Warren and Queensburry Promotions and Parker at the press, Currant said,

939
00:48:52,307 --> 00:48:54,547
Speaker 18: he still has a hunger and heart and desire.

940
00:48:54,227 --> 00:48:56,787
Speaker 21: To carry on, but he's been in a lot of wars,

941
00:48:56,947 --> 00:49:00,507
Speaker 21: and he's thirty three years old, and while he's probably

942
00:49:00,547 --> 00:49:03,867
Speaker 21: in the prime of his career, he also has his

943
00:49:04,547 --> 00:49:06,067
Speaker 21: faculties and everything to consider.

944
00:49:06,107 --> 00:49:07,787
Speaker 18: He's got five kids and a wife.

945
00:49:08,347 --> 00:49:11,587
Speaker 21: So I think he'll have one more fight and depending

946
00:49:11,627 --> 00:49:14,507
Speaker 21: on that, how that goes will very much determine his future.

947
00:49:14,547 --> 00:49:18,707
Speaker 21: But it is hard to see him, you know, going

948
00:49:18,827 --> 00:49:22,307
Speaker 21: back and trying to go on another run to get

949
00:49:23,187 --> 00:49:25,787
Speaker 21: a second crack at another world title shot.

950
00:49:26,107 --> 00:49:28,227
Speaker 3: Will we see what's he going to do? I mean,

951
00:49:28,507 --> 00:49:29,947
Speaker 3: what's the quality of fighter he's going to have to

952
00:49:30,027 --> 00:49:32,227
Speaker 3: fight in that next fight to put himself back up there?

953
00:49:32,267 --> 00:49:33,907
Speaker 3: Can he do it on one fighter line? Or is

954
00:49:33,947 --> 00:49:35,987
Speaker 3: it back to the bottom of the pack for Joseph Parker.

955
00:49:37,507 --> 00:49:40,307
Speaker 21: Potentially, I don't think he goes back to the bottom

956
00:49:40,347 --> 00:49:43,427
Speaker 21: of the packwayny stretch, but it is a big setback.

957
00:49:43,907 --> 00:49:47,067
Speaker 18: Look, there's a number of desirable fights out there he.

958
00:49:48,867 --> 00:49:52,627
Speaker 21: From a rematch perspective, there's marketable fights potentially against guys

959
00:49:52,707 --> 00:49:57,747
Speaker 21: like Joshua, Dillian White, a number of those British fighters,

960
00:49:58,147 --> 00:50:02,987
Speaker 21: Derek Tasaura, he's fought twice before, and that was mentioned

961
00:50:03,107 --> 00:50:05,627
Speaker 21: of a potential rematch with Waterlely at some point. I

962
00:50:05,667 --> 00:50:09,147
Speaker 21: think it was an amazing fight, back and forth, brilliant,

963
00:50:09,187 --> 00:50:11,947
Speaker 21: absorbing contest. I think people would love to see it again.

964
00:50:12,467 --> 00:50:16,267
Speaker 21: But who knows what happens between Wadley and Usik. So

965
00:50:16,907 --> 00:50:19,547
Speaker 21: for now, Joe, I guess we'll take time to recover

966
00:50:19,667 --> 00:50:22,707
Speaker 21: and take stock and we will see him again, but

967
00:50:23,267 --> 00:50:25,107
Speaker 21: it'll probably take him some time to get over this

968
00:50:25,267 --> 00:50:28,187
Speaker 21: first and foremost, and it is a major, major setback

969
00:50:28,227 --> 00:50:28,747
Speaker 21: for his career.

970
00:50:28,947 --> 00:50:31,907
Speaker 3: And will we get that Wardley fight after all?

971
00:50:33,107 --> 00:50:36,667
Speaker 18: I think we will. Yes, there's no one else really.

972
00:50:37,987 --> 00:50:41,227
Speaker 21: That's Usik could fight, and if he doesn't, then he

973
00:50:41,267 --> 00:50:44,707
Speaker 21: will have to vacate the WBO title. Wardley will probably

974
00:50:44,707 --> 00:50:49,267
Speaker 21: be elevated straight to champion. Joe was that the interim champion,

975
00:50:49,587 --> 00:50:53,707
Speaker 21: so he's lost that status. But I think now particularly

976
00:50:54,187 --> 00:50:56,947
Speaker 21: Wardley's a very exciting fighter and he's someone that people

977
00:50:57,027 --> 00:51:00,747
Speaker 21: want to see, and I think that fights could easily

978
00:51:00,827 --> 00:51:04,747
Speaker 21: be put at a stadium like Wembley Usiks, he's fought

979
00:51:04,787 --> 00:51:07,787
Speaker 21: in the UK number of times. In many ways, it's

980
00:51:07,827 --> 00:51:10,907
Speaker 21: a much easier fight to market than a park of

981
00:51:10,947 --> 00:51:14,387
Speaker 21: the Usak fight. And Usik has come out and said

982
00:51:14,387 --> 00:51:16,227
Speaker 21: that he wants to fight on for another couple of years,

983
00:51:16,227 --> 00:51:17,827
Speaker 21: that he wants to remain undisputed.

984
00:51:17,947 --> 00:51:20,507
Speaker 18: So if he's a man of his words, he will

985
00:51:20,547 --> 00:51:21,147
Speaker 18: fight Wardley.

986
00:51:21,707 --> 00:51:23,667
Speaker 3: Well, it's gonna be fascinated to see what happens with

987
00:51:23,747 --> 00:51:26,227
Speaker 3: both of those fighters. Legham. Napier thanks so much for

988
00:51:26,307 --> 00:51:28,747
Speaker 3: joining us the early hours of the morning in London.

989
00:51:29,027 --> 00:51:31,307
Speaker 3: Save travels. We'll see you in Chicago in a few days.

990
00:51:32,267 --> 00:51:33,947
Speaker 18: Well in the cheers, Elliott.

991
00:51:33,707 --> 00:51:36,107
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, sir Liam Napier joining us on

992
00:51:36,867 --> 00:51:40,267
Speaker 3: the program this afternoon. He has covered at for the

993
00:51:40,307 --> 00:51:41,987
Speaker 3: New Zealand Herald as well, and you can view as

994
00:51:42,027 --> 00:51:45,107
Speaker 3: match report from the Two Arena or the fight report

995
00:51:45,107 --> 00:51:47,987
Speaker 3: i should say from the Two Arena in London, trans

996
00:51:47,987 --> 00:51:49,387
Speaker 3: for you to have your say. If you watch the

997
00:51:49,427 --> 00:51:52,787
Speaker 3: fight this morning, maybe you've seen the highlights. Everyone it

998
00:51:52,867 --> 00:51:58,307
Speaker 3: seems up in arms around the intervention from the referee

999
00:51:58,387 --> 00:52:00,187
Speaker 3: in the eleventh round. Just looking at some of the

1000
00:52:00,827 --> 00:52:04,227
Speaker 3: responses from people that cover boxing on a regular basis,

1001
00:52:04,307 --> 00:52:07,267
Speaker 3: Dan Rafael watching the replan. This stoppage is even worse

1002
00:52:07,347 --> 00:52:10,867
Speaker 3: than I thought in Parker wardly terrible, says Dan RAPHAELI

1003
00:52:10,907 --> 00:52:16,987
Speaker 3: Wicks for espn Ariohbani. I'm livid. WTF. Fantastic fight, but

1004
00:52:17,107 --> 00:52:17,987
Speaker 3: awful stoppage.

1005
00:52:18,067 --> 00:52:19,387
Speaker 2: Run it back. That is not right.

1006
00:52:19,467 --> 00:52:22,347
Speaker 3: Did Joseph Parker get dutted this morning? And we're too

1007
00:52:22,467 --> 00:52:25,347
Speaker 3: now for him? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine

1008
00:52:25,427 --> 00:52:28,547
Speaker 3: two niney two for a text message, Brian says this

1009
00:52:28,667 --> 00:52:32,387
Speaker 3: on nine two nine two. Great pure boxing today. Parker

1010
00:52:32,547 --> 00:52:35,907
Speaker 3: was impressive, but the farbio hook speed got him in

1011
00:52:36,027 --> 00:52:40,227
Speaker 3: the end. Could have gone either way. Thanks Brian. Oh

1012
00:52:40,307 --> 00:52:43,027
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two for

1013
00:52:43,227 --> 00:52:45,187
Speaker 3: a text message if you want to get in touch

1014
00:52:45,227 --> 00:52:47,867
Speaker 3: with the the program. It seems like there will be

1015
00:52:47,907 --> 00:52:51,107
Speaker 3: a bit of debate about that stoppage. I don't know

1016
00:52:51,227 --> 00:52:54,587
Speaker 3: that they've got it right. Look like Parker was as

1017
00:52:54,627 --> 00:52:57,947
Speaker 3: I say, head on points to that point. And where

1018
00:52:57,947 --> 00:53:00,787
Speaker 3: does Joseph Parker go to now in his career? That

1019
00:53:00,947 --> 00:53:05,307
Speaker 3: another loss? As Liam mentioned thees you know thirty three,

1020
00:53:05,387 --> 00:53:07,987
Speaker 3: which isn't necessarily old when you consider some of the

1021
00:53:08,067 --> 00:53:10,547
Speaker 3: boxes that have been around the traps, but he's had

1022
00:53:10,587 --> 00:53:13,187
Speaker 3: a few losses to this point. Can he reinvent himself again?

1023
00:53:13,187 --> 00:53:15,507
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty nine two for a

1024
00:53:15,587 --> 00:53:17,707
Speaker 3: text message, afternoon, Tony, how are you?

1025
00:53:18,867 --> 00:53:19,467
Speaker 17: I'm very well?

1026
00:53:19,547 --> 00:53:20,347
Speaker 22: Thank Yeah.

1027
00:53:20,507 --> 00:53:22,027
Speaker 23: I had a look at the fight and I think,

1028
00:53:22,107 --> 00:53:23,987
Speaker 23: in all honest to the fight should have been stopped.

1029
00:53:24,467 --> 00:53:27,467
Speaker 23: And the reason I say that is because Parker was

1030
00:53:27,547 --> 00:53:30,547
Speaker 23: not returning any punches. He would just continuously be being

1031
00:53:31,827 --> 00:53:34,507
Speaker 23: and the dealers with referees today especially, they don't want

1032
00:53:34,547 --> 00:53:37,427
Speaker 23: to see somebody with a brain injury or really badly hurt.

1033
00:53:38,147 --> 00:53:40,227
Speaker 23: And I think that was the right decision. But I'll

1034
00:53:40,267 --> 00:53:43,587
Speaker 23: tell you something that Usik will be jumping for joy

1035
00:53:43,667 --> 00:53:47,907
Speaker 23: to fight that guy, and that gentleman wart Yardley has

1036
00:53:48,027 --> 00:53:52,387
Speaker 23: got no chance in hell of beating music. He's not

1037
00:53:52,547 --> 00:53:56,427
Speaker 23: as skilled. He will he'll give it a shot and

1038
00:53:56,547 --> 00:54:00,307
Speaker 23: he'll be throwing haymakers, but Usic is far too classy

1039
00:54:00,707 --> 00:54:04,627
Speaker 23: and he's got no show of winning against someone of

1040
00:54:04,747 --> 00:54:05,987
Speaker 23: the skill level of Music.

1041
00:54:06,347 --> 00:54:07,907
Speaker 3: There was a moment that fight, Tony, where I thought

1042
00:54:07,987 --> 00:54:12,107
Speaker 3: Parker was about to knock out wardly about the ninth rounder.

1043
00:54:12,187 --> 00:54:14,107
Speaker 3: You had a flurry of punches, but he couldn't just

1044
00:54:14,187 --> 00:54:16,907
Speaker 3: land the knockout. Belond that's probably been there, say. The

1045
00:54:16,987 --> 00:54:19,427
Speaker 3: issue for Parker in his career is getting those knockouts.

1046
00:54:20,787 --> 00:54:23,427
Speaker 23: Yeah, I've always I've always thought when I watched park

1047
00:54:23,467 --> 00:54:24,867
Speaker 23: and I followed the righteous career.

1048
00:54:25,187 --> 00:54:27,587
Speaker 12: To me, he's never really had.

1049
00:54:27,587 --> 00:54:30,027
Speaker 23: The he's a great salesman and he's not a great

1050
00:54:30,107 --> 00:54:32,987
Speaker 23: cloth I don't. To me, he doesn't really have that

1051
00:54:33,227 --> 00:54:36,587
Speaker 23: that really tice and killer instinct, and I don't think

1052
00:54:36,627 --> 00:54:40,467
Speaker 23: he'll ever have it, and it's unfortunate, whereas this guy does.

1053
00:54:40,587 --> 00:54:43,427
Speaker 23: But the problem he's got is Yusic is too skilled.

1054
00:54:43,747 --> 00:54:45,347
Speaker 23: He won't be able to hit him. It may go

1055
00:54:45,547 --> 00:54:48,427
Speaker 23: the distance, but us will beat him on points, and

1056
00:54:48,627 --> 00:54:50,787
Speaker 23: Usic will be quite happy to fight him with no

1057
00:54:50,987 --> 00:54:51,587
Speaker 23: problem at all.

1058
00:54:51,947 --> 00:54:53,627
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Tony Oh eight hundred and eighty

1059
00:54:53,667 --> 00:54:55,627
Speaker 3: ten eighty nine two nine two for a text message

1060
00:54:55,627 --> 00:54:58,907
Speaker 3: one line free on the boxing Dan, Good afternoon.

1061
00:54:59,667 --> 00:55:00,467
Speaker 17: Good afternoon.

1062
00:55:00,547 --> 00:55:01,267
Speaker 5: How are you today?

1063
00:55:01,347 --> 00:55:03,867
Speaker 3: I'm great, yourself very good.

1064
00:55:04,387 --> 00:55:06,867
Speaker 24: Now I'm going to steer the pot and I'm going

1065
00:55:06,947 --> 00:55:12,627
Speaker 24: to say I'm glad that Parker lost, because he seems

1066
00:55:13,027 --> 00:55:17,747
Speaker 24: very mouthy and according to Parker, he was going to

1067
00:55:17,867 --> 00:55:24,427
Speaker 24: teach this guy a lesson. Well, all I could say is, well, Joseph.

1068
00:55:24,787 --> 00:55:26,067
Speaker 17: How did that go for you?

1069
00:55:26,867 --> 00:55:34,187
Speaker 24: And really, he hasn't got the skill to be fighting

1070
00:55:34,827 --> 00:55:37,387
Speaker 24: in that realm and he should give up. Why he's ahead,

1071
00:55:37,707 --> 00:55:38,027
Speaker 24: you reckon.

1072
00:55:38,107 --> 00:55:41,587
Speaker 3: That's the end of him, Dan, for his career. I

1073
00:55:41,787 --> 00:55:42,787
Speaker 3: think if I was.

1074
00:55:43,387 --> 00:55:46,587
Speaker 24: Joseph Parker, I would say, well, I'm not going to

1075
00:55:46,627 --> 00:55:47,467
Speaker 24: get any further.

1076
00:55:48,387 --> 00:55:50,107
Speaker 17: I'm a good fighter, but I'm not.

1077
00:55:50,307 --> 00:55:56,547
Speaker 24: Good enough to take the next level and get on

1078
00:55:56,747 --> 00:55:57,787
Speaker 24: and do something else.

1079
00:55:58,467 --> 00:56:00,427
Speaker 3: Dan, appreciate it. Thank you very much for your call

1080
00:56:00,507 --> 00:56:03,747
Speaker 3: this afternoon. Yeah, Parker, I mean, he's never struck me

1081
00:56:03,827 --> 00:56:08,507
Speaker 3: as the guy overly comfortable of the show. Birding is

1082
00:56:08,507 --> 00:56:11,227
Speaker 3: probably not the right word, but the trash talk pre fight,

1083
00:56:11,307 --> 00:56:13,587
Speaker 3: he's always felt very uncomfortable. And when he does throw

1084
00:56:13,667 --> 00:56:17,187
Speaker 3: something out, you sit up and listen because he clearly

1085
00:56:17,307 --> 00:56:23,267
Speaker 3: means it, clearly does have some belief behind it, because

1086
00:56:23,307 --> 00:56:25,707
Speaker 3: he's never has been the guy that throws around the

1087
00:56:25,787 --> 00:56:29,107
Speaker 3: trash talk that we've so commonly associated with boxing, you know,

1088
00:56:29,187 --> 00:56:31,347
Speaker 3: through the likes of you know, through the years, it

1089
00:56:31,467 --> 00:56:34,587
Speaker 3: hasn't felt like his game. But one line three, one

1090
00:56:34,667 --> 00:56:36,307
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two for a

1091
00:56:36,387 --> 00:56:37,907
Speaker 3: text message Lyle.

1092
00:56:38,947 --> 00:56:42,387
Speaker 12: You're God when watching boxing since the Thriller in Manila,

1093
00:56:42,667 --> 00:56:45,427
Speaker 12: to give you an idea of the age. That's things.

1094
00:56:46,227 --> 00:56:48,467
Speaker 12: Unlike a couple of corners said back earlier, it was

1095
00:56:48,547 --> 00:56:51,867
Speaker 12: pulled up way too early. Watching it on replay, a

1096
00:56:51,947 --> 00:56:54,867
Speaker 12: lot of them shots were just glancing blows. Having said that,

1097
00:56:55,467 --> 00:56:59,267
Speaker 12: Parker didn't help himself because he wasn't throwing anything back,

1098
00:56:59,707 --> 00:57:02,747
Speaker 12: I'd say that's why the referee had pulled it up.

1099
00:57:03,387 --> 00:57:07,227
Speaker 12: Otherwise it was a fix on. But the biggest problem

1100
00:57:07,387 --> 00:57:10,267
Speaker 12: park has now got right. The bloke that he fought.

1101
00:57:10,987 --> 00:57:14,507
Speaker 12: He was losing every round in the previous fights against

1102
00:57:14,547 --> 00:57:17,707
Speaker 12: one of our Australian fighters, Justin Hooney, and he knocked

1103
00:57:17,747 --> 00:57:19,547
Speaker 12: him out in the last round. He got it done. Now,

1104
00:57:19,627 --> 00:57:23,987
Speaker 12: Honey's several ranks below Parker. Right, the guy at Yardley,

1105
00:57:24,107 --> 00:57:26,427
Speaker 12: he fought the fight of his life today in good

1106
00:57:26,507 --> 00:57:29,027
Speaker 12: luck to him. Now he is where the real problem

1107
00:57:29,187 --> 00:57:32,867
Speaker 12: is for our poor old Parker. Right, it's all about

1108
00:57:33,067 --> 00:57:37,907
Speaker 12: markability and fighting. This guy had eighteen wins prior to

1109
00:57:37,907 --> 00:57:41,787
Speaker 12: today's right and four he had no amateur career, and

1110
00:57:41,907 --> 00:57:44,947
Speaker 12: four of them were against corporate fighters before he just

1111
00:57:45,107 --> 00:57:48,587
Speaker 12: started to set on the real So unless this Yardley

1112
00:57:48,787 --> 00:57:51,547
Speaker 12: comes out and knocks Oosik out, which I can't see

1113
00:57:51,587 --> 00:57:53,667
Speaker 12: happening at all, I think it could be way too good.

1114
00:57:54,707 --> 00:57:57,427
Speaker 12: You've got Parker, whether he got robbed today or not,

1115
00:57:58,187 --> 00:58:00,867
Speaker 12: You lost to a bloke that there's only really fourteen

1116
00:58:00,947 --> 00:58:05,827
Speaker 12: professional fights, I'd say, yeah, it's probably the end.

1117
00:58:05,747 --> 00:58:06,827
Speaker 22: Of the road, Joseph.

1118
00:58:07,267 --> 00:58:09,867
Speaker 12: As for the trash talk, he doesn't normally do it,

1119
00:58:09,947 --> 00:58:12,907
Speaker 12: as you said. I did hear him being quite cocky

1120
00:58:12,987 --> 00:58:16,267
Speaker 12: on the radio the other day, And with all due

1121
00:58:16,307 --> 00:58:19,747
Speaker 12: respect to Parker, I think Parker and his camp may

1122
00:58:19,787 --> 00:58:22,147
Speaker 12: have taken this floke way too lightly. Of course I'll

1123
00:58:22,187 --> 00:58:25,107
Speaker 12: never admit to that, but I think that you're probably

1124
00:58:25,187 --> 00:58:27,747
Speaker 12: looking past the fight. He should have had it done

1125
00:58:27,787 --> 00:58:31,027
Speaker 12: in six rounds. He had him wobbling a couple of times,

1126
00:58:31,107 --> 00:58:33,507
Speaker 12: but he just couldn't go on with it. And Parker, yeah,

1127
00:58:33,947 --> 00:58:36,387
Speaker 12: he's a skillful fighter, but he just hasn't really got

1128
00:58:36,427 --> 00:58:37,947
Speaker 12: the knockout power of a tour.

1129
00:58:38,627 --> 00:58:42,587
Speaker 3: Well, look at you're right boxing trades and those KOs,

1130
00:58:42,667 --> 00:58:44,587
Speaker 3: and it feels like Parker, as you say, is a

1131
00:58:44,627 --> 00:58:47,187
Speaker 3: good technical fighter, but he's never been able to get

1132
00:58:47,267 --> 00:58:50,187
Speaker 3: those ko's on a regular basis against the top fighters

1133
00:58:50,547 --> 00:58:51,027
Speaker 3: in the world.

1134
00:58:53,067 --> 00:58:56,267
Speaker 12: He's had a lovely career the five kids. I think

1135
00:58:56,307 --> 00:58:58,307
Speaker 12: he would have probably been a bit smarter than David

1136
00:58:58,387 --> 00:59:01,867
Speaker 12: two with this money. They disrespected David, but it probably

1137
00:59:01,947 --> 00:59:04,427
Speaker 12: a time maybe take the last fight for a payday

1138
00:59:04,467 --> 00:59:08,387
Speaker 12: and then hang up the gloves. You know, unless, of course,

1139
00:59:08,467 --> 00:59:11,787
Speaker 12: this Yardley guy goes on and isis USA curly, then

1140
00:59:11,867 --> 00:59:13,867
Speaker 12: I might say, hey, park is not too bad. He

1141
00:59:14,267 --> 00:59:16,947
Speaker 12: eventually went the distance, but there's a lot of real

1142
00:59:17,067 --> 00:59:22,707
Speaker 12: submotion there so and Boxy being the murky world it is. Yeah,

1143
00:59:22,867 --> 00:59:25,667
Speaker 12: it's unfortunate, but never mind.

1144
00:59:26,347 --> 00:59:28,987
Speaker 3: Appreciate the call Isle in your analysis of that fight.

1145
00:59:29,027 --> 00:59:30,987
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two ninety

1146
00:59:30,987 --> 00:59:33,547
Speaker 3: two for a text message, Joseph Parker, where does he

1147
00:59:33,707 --> 00:59:36,787
Speaker 3: go to from here? After his defeat to Fabia Wardley

1148
00:59:37,467 --> 00:59:41,307
Speaker 3: this morning? Hi, Steve, Hey doing He's good?

1149
00:59:41,347 --> 00:59:46,867
Speaker 16: After the Elliott Elliott absolutely devastated for Joseph Parker. I

1150
00:59:47,387 --> 00:59:50,267
Speaker 16: thought it would stop way too earlier. I looked at

1151
00:59:50,307 --> 00:59:54,227
Speaker 16: those last two punches. You know that that left hook

1152
00:59:55,587 --> 00:59:58,667
Speaker 16: Parker rolled it, and then that's straight right. It glumped

1153
00:59:58,667 --> 01:00:00,827
Speaker 16: off the side of his head after grunting off the

1154
01:00:00,987 --> 01:00:03,467
Speaker 16: gloves and then the rest stopped at I'm thinking, what

1155
01:00:03,587 --> 01:00:05,987
Speaker 16: are you doing? But look, here's the here's the problem

1156
01:00:06,627 --> 01:00:09,707
Speaker 16: on the school board. There's nothing you can do about it.

1157
01:00:10,187 --> 01:00:15,507
Speaker 16: And uh look that. Yeah, where does Parker go from here?

1158
01:00:15,667 --> 01:00:19,987
Speaker 16: You know, like that was has ever really was and

1159
01:00:21,307 --> 01:00:23,467
Speaker 16: it's going to be a long road if the even

1160
01:00:23,587 --> 01:00:27,147
Speaker 16: is THEO. But in saying all of that, you know,

1161
01:00:27,427 --> 01:00:31,627
Speaker 16: Woodley Man, he might just do it if if Usak

1162
01:00:31,747 --> 01:00:34,387
Speaker 16: fights him and he goes on to do the same

1163
01:00:34,507 --> 01:00:38,827
Speaker 16: thing that he just finished doing in his last two fights,

1164
01:00:38,907 --> 01:00:43,947
Speaker 16: he could literally be the one to beat Usak, who

1165
01:00:44,107 --> 01:00:46,667
Speaker 16: knows that the Lusik fights them, and it might be

1166
01:00:46,747 --> 01:00:48,907
Speaker 16: one of those things he has to. He has toy now,

1167
01:00:48,987 --> 01:00:53,507
Speaker 16: otherwise he'll be stripped of the WBO. So he devastated

1168
01:00:53,587 --> 01:00:54,187
Speaker 16: for park of that.

1169
01:00:54,427 --> 01:00:56,827
Speaker 25: Oh hey, one last thing. The reason why he doesn't

1170
01:00:56,907 --> 01:00:59,187
Speaker 25: trash talk is because of who he is is, because

1171
01:00:59,187 --> 01:01:02,187
Speaker 25: of the status, like he's a chief that can sound

1172
01:01:02,227 --> 01:01:07,747
Speaker 25: more and he's I think he's a bishop chi and

1173
01:01:07,867 --> 01:01:10,587
Speaker 25: that's why he doesn't. It's because of his mother. You know,

1174
01:01:10,747 --> 01:01:14,547
Speaker 25: he can't talk like a child. You just got too

1175
01:01:14,667 --> 01:01:16,987
Speaker 25: much woman respects and prestige.

1176
01:01:17,027 --> 01:01:17,427
Speaker 12: He has to.

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01:01:17,507 --> 01:01:20,227
Speaker 3: Represent you know, not absolutely, Steve. Nice to hear from

1178
01:01:20,267 --> 01:01:21,907
Speaker 3: you this afternoon. I think it's a very very good point.

1179
01:01:22,027 --> 01:01:25,107
Speaker 3: It's never sat comfortably, has it. And the trash talk

1180
01:01:25,227 --> 01:01:27,987
Speaker 3: is well boxing has traded on for so many years.

1181
01:01:28,107 --> 01:01:30,947
Speaker 3: That sells the pay per views, it gets the interest,

1182
01:01:31,027 --> 01:01:34,387
Speaker 3: and we know that Joseph Parker hasn't been able to

1183
01:01:34,427 --> 01:01:37,627
Speaker 3: get those big fights probably because he hasn't been able

1184
01:01:37,667 --> 01:01:39,187
Speaker 3: to do the trash talk. And that's the kind of

1185
01:01:39,227 --> 01:01:42,067
Speaker 3: person that he is. He's a lovely guy. Spoken to

1186
01:01:42,147 --> 01:01:46,027
Speaker 3: him a couple of times throughout my broadcasting career and

1187
01:01:46,307 --> 01:01:50,547
Speaker 3: covering various events. Lovely guy, you know, it's kind of

1188
01:01:50,587 --> 01:01:52,187
Speaker 3: guy that you you wouldn't think would hurt a fly

1189
01:01:52,347 --> 01:01:54,467
Speaker 3: doesn't talk like that. And then in the ring he's

1190
01:01:54,467 --> 01:01:58,627
Speaker 3: obviously got the ability to fight very very well, but

1191
01:01:58,747 --> 01:02:02,307
Speaker 3: the promotional side has never really sat that well with him.

1192
01:02:02,387 --> 01:02:05,707
Speaker 3: Nice to talk to you this afternoon, Steve. A couple

1193
01:02:05,707 --> 01:02:07,627
Speaker 3: of text in on two nine two. Stop it with

1194
01:02:07,667 --> 01:02:10,907
Speaker 3: the excuses you're trying to make up a storyline he lost.

1195
01:02:12,427 --> 01:02:14,547
Speaker 3: Roy says, Joe's too soon on and New Zealander to

1196
01:02:14,587 --> 01:02:16,667
Speaker 3: do the trash talk. He wouldn't have liked that. I Reckon,

1197
01:02:16,747 --> 01:02:20,987
Speaker 3: says Roy, who also says at least he wents eleven rounds.

1198
01:02:22,147 --> 01:02:24,067
Speaker 3: I readA the Parker match. He was the book's favorite,

1199
01:02:24,227 --> 01:02:27,867
Speaker 3: which means there was a beating scandal involved. Boxing has

1200
01:02:27,947 --> 01:02:32,267
Speaker 3: never been an honest sport. We'll see it might be

1201
01:02:32,347 --> 01:02:34,867
Speaker 3: his best hope now Parker to hitch his wagon, so

1202
01:02:35,027 --> 01:02:37,667
Speaker 3: to speak to the Fabio Wardley train, and hope that

1203
01:02:37,747 --> 01:02:41,147
Speaker 3: Wardley does well against Uzik. And therefore this morning's defeat

1204
01:02:41,267 --> 01:02:45,867
Speaker 3: doesn't look that bad. But hard to see Usik being

1205
01:02:45,907 --> 01:02:49,827
Speaker 3: too troubled unless Wardley does improve. Maybe he's got it

1206
01:02:50,027 --> 01:02:51,627
Speaker 3: m to go with eleven rounds and then catch them

1207
01:02:52,107 --> 01:02:55,387
Speaker 3: right at the very end. Perhaps that's the game plan

1208
01:02:55,547 --> 01:02:59,507
Speaker 3: for the fight against Usik. Henry says this Parker has

1209
01:02:59,587 --> 01:03:02,267
Speaker 3: no power in his past his best, he just can't

1210
01:03:02,347 --> 01:03:06,267
Speaker 3: punch people out. And Jason with this one, is there

1211
01:03:06,387 --> 01:03:08,627
Speaker 3: any young heavyweights coming up in the ranks in New Zealand?

1212
01:03:08,667 --> 01:03:13,187
Speaker 3: Who is the next Joe Parker? Don't know. Not hearing

1213
01:03:13,227 --> 01:03:18,027
Speaker 3: a lot of names coming through. I'm not sure if

1214
01:03:18,027 --> 01:03:21,227
Speaker 3: there's anyone coming up through the ranks, because if they have,

1215
01:03:21,427 --> 01:03:24,267
Speaker 3: they haven't been able to register so many results that

1216
01:03:24,307 --> 01:03:28,267
Speaker 3: have taken the attention at least of casual observers like myself,

1217
01:03:29,747 --> 01:03:31,387
Speaker 3: So I might have a few names to throt us

1218
01:03:31,427 --> 01:03:33,627
Speaker 3: on nine two nine two that are up and coming

1219
01:03:33,747 --> 01:03:35,547
Speaker 3: around the ranks. So it's twenty eight and a half

1220
01:03:35,907 --> 01:03:39,147
Speaker 3: after one on news Talk ZEBB. We'll take you to

1221
01:03:39,347 --> 01:03:41,827
Speaker 3: bay Oval. Shortly, we'll stand by and have a chat

1222
01:03:41,907 --> 01:03:44,107
Speaker 3: with the coach of the black Caps, Rob Bolter. After

1223
01:03:44,187 --> 01:03:46,227
Speaker 3: this on news talk ZEBB twenty nine after one.

1224
01:03:46,627 --> 01:03:51,227
Speaker 1: One Grudge Old n Gage we cand fort with GJ.

1225
01:03:51,427 --> 01:03:55,427
Speaker 1: Gugnomes New Zealand's most trusted no will learn News Talk ZIBB.

1226
01:03:55,627 --> 01:03:57,587
Speaker 3: Well, the black Cats are about twenty nine minutes away

1227
01:03:57,667 --> 01:04:01,147
Speaker 3: from starting their one day International series against England and

1228
01:04:01,347 --> 01:04:05,187
Speaker 3: as we discussed with Cameron Pont's the last hour for cricket.

1229
01:04:05,267 --> 01:04:08,707
Speaker 3: Infoe not looking too bad at bay Oval at mart

1230
01:04:08,747 --> 01:04:12,027
Speaker 3: mong Anuly. The coach of the black Caps is Rob Walter,

1231
01:04:12,147 --> 01:04:15,067
Speaker 3: who joins us now on news Talk z B. Rob,

1232
01:04:15,147 --> 01:04:18,267
Speaker 3: you'll be hoping for perhaps some more cricket than what

1233
01:04:18,347 --> 01:04:21,067
Speaker 3: you got in the T twenty series. So what did

1234
01:04:21,147 --> 01:04:23,987
Speaker 3: you get out of that series despite all the rain.

1235
01:04:24,707 --> 01:04:27,707
Speaker 26: Yeah, because that's part of the international scene, you sort

1236
01:04:27,747 --> 01:04:29,747
Speaker 26: of get to move on pretty quickly, you know, when

1237
01:04:29,827 --> 01:04:34,227
Speaker 26: all loose. So unfortunately we know sort of didn't get

1238
01:04:34,307 --> 01:04:36,227
Speaker 26: to play as much keed as you would have hoped for,

1239
01:04:36,467 --> 01:04:39,827
Speaker 26: but into a different format now, a couple of changes

1240
01:04:39,867 --> 01:04:42,627
Speaker 26: in personnel, and I know the guys and use are

1241
01:04:42,707 --> 01:04:44,307
Speaker 26: wearing to go so looking forward to.

1242
01:04:44,787 --> 01:04:47,227
Speaker 3: Is there anything you did take out of that series

1243
01:04:47,387 --> 01:04:49,387
Speaker 3: as you move into the T twenty World Cup.

1244
01:04:51,387 --> 01:04:53,827
Speaker 26: I suppose you're always, you know, picking up little things,

1245
01:04:54,627 --> 01:04:57,147
Speaker 26: whether that's affirmations on some of the stuff you've been

1246
01:04:57,187 --> 01:05:00,787
Speaker 26: working on or highlighted areas that you that you want

1247
01:05:00,867 --> 01:05:04,987
Speaker 26: to keep chipping away at, but nothing significant little bits.

1248
01:05:04,867 --> 01:05:07,067
Speaker 27: Of our game, do you know? I always evolving and

1249
01:05:07,947 --> 01:05:08,427
Speaker 27: we've got.

1250
01:05:08,267 --> 01:05:12,667
Speaker 26: A couple of opportunities to sort of explore that. Albeit

1251
01:05:12,947 --> 01:05:13,947
Speaker 26: there was a couple of runners.

1252
01:05:14,547 --> 01:05:18,067
Speaker 3: One day is now the focus so obviously, Rob, Yeah,

1253
01:05:18,307 --> 01:05:20,667
Speaker 3: it's a format that has been squeezed. I guess in

1254
01:05:20,707 --> 01:05:23,747
Speaker 3: the international schedules, as the black Caps coach, what importance

1255
01:05:23,787 --> 01:05:25,147
Speaker 3: do you place on one day cricket?

1256
01:05:27,227 --> 01:05:30,307
Speaker 26: You know, any game for the black Caps is hugely important,

1257
01:05:31,307 --> 01:05:34,627
Speaker 26: So any international you know holds us weight for sure.

1258
01:05:35,547 --> 01:05:38,107
Speaker 26: You know, one day cricket is you know, part of

1259
01:05:38,147 --> 01:05:40,827
Speaker 26: a sort of a cycle that builds up to a

1260
01:05:40,947 --> 01:05:43,307
Speaker 26: one day We'll Cup in twenty twenty seven the latter

1261
01:05:43,387 --> 01:05:45,707
Speaker 26: parts of the year, so you know, for us, it's

1262
01:05:45,787 --> 01:05:49,587
Speaker 26: a format really that we've played very well and you know,

1263
01:05:49,787 --> 01:05:52,747
Speaker 26: a Champions Trophy final not too long ago and some

1264
01:05:52,867 --> 01:05:56,547
Speaker 26: success against Pakistan. So we certainly want to keep playing

1265
01:05:56,547 --> 01:06:00,387
Speaker 26: good cricket obviously or ever evolving as a team, so

1266
01:06:00,787 --> 01:06:02,147
Speaker 26: you know, to keep on that journey.

1267
01:06:03,147 --> 01:06:05,387
Speaker 27: But yeah, really to just to get back into, you know,

1268
01:06:05,467 --> 01:06:07,947
Speaker 27: playing great cricket. It's a very good one outfit.

1269
01:06:08,147 --> 01:06:10,867
Speaker 3: Okay, Williamson coming back into the squad, what kind of

1270
01:06:10,907 --> 01:06:12,667
Speaker 3: boost does he give your team?

1271
01:06:14,147 --> 01:06:16,187
Speaker 26: Oh, I mean it sort of goes without something really,

1272
01:06:16,307 --> 01:06:20,987
Speaker 26: you know that he hears an icon really already that

1273
01:06:21,187 --> 01:06:24,947
Speaker 26: is still playing and obviously great having back in the environment,

1274
01:06:25,627 --> 01:06:28,387
Speaker 26: you know, beyond obviously the runs that he brings, his

1275
01:06:28,587 --> 01:06:32,107
Speaker 26: experience and his leadership and yeah, just his sort of

1276
01:06:32,187 --> 01:06:33,787
Speaker 26: overall presence in the team.

1277
01:06:33,907 --> 01:06:35,627
Speaker 27: So I'm looking forward to having back.

1278
01:06:35,827 --> 01:06:38,707
Speaker 3: Given the uncertainty about how often he plays now and

1279
01:06:38,867 --> 01:06:41,147
Speaker 3: when is it important that I don't know how you

1280
01:06:41,267 --> 01:06:42,947
Speaker 3: do this, but it's more on him, but make the

1281
01:06:43,027 --> 01:06:44,867
Speaker 3: most of his presence and his time.

1282
01:06:44,707 --> 01:06:45,227
Speaker 28: With the team.

1283
01:06:47,147 --> 01:06:50,267
Speaker 26: Yeah, I mean there's no sort of need to really,

1284
01:06:50,547 --> 01:06:52,507
Speaker 26: you know, make a big thing of it because he's

1285
01:06:52,507 --> 01:06:56,027
Speaker 26: fully invested. So whenever he's he is around the group

1286
01:06:56,067 --> 01:06:58,507
Speaker 26: obviously you know, we went to it as a group

1287
01:06:58,587 --> 01:07:00,507
Speaker 26: to him Springs prior to the start of the t

1288
01:07:00,667 --> 01:07:04,027
Speaker 26: twenties and you know, going just great out of his insight,

1289
01:07:04,507 --> 01:07:07,987
Speaker 26: his clarity, you know, around purpose and obviously being a

1290
01:07:08,107 --> 01:07:09,547
Speaker 26: leader for this team for so long.

1291
01:07:10,467 --> 01:07:12,387
Speaker 27: But he but you know, he sort of steps straight

1292
01:07:12,467 --> 01:07:12,987
Speaker 27: back into it.

1293
01:07:13,267 --> 01:07:15,027
Speaker 26: You know, I don't have to speak to him about

1294
01:07:15,067 --> 01:07:18,627
Speaker 26: what his responsibilities are because he already knows any cares

1295
01:07:18,707 --> 01:07:20,467
Speaker 26: so deeply for the team that he you know that

1296
01:07:20,587 --> 01:07:23,747
Speaker 26: he finds his way into into the conversations and into

1297
01:07:23,827 --> 01:07:27,347
Speaker 26: the discussions because you know, just really that's that's who

1298
01:07:27,387 --> 01:07:28,227
Speaker 26: he is as a human.

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01:07:28,347 --> 01:07:31,307
Speaker 27: So yeah, I mean it's wonderful having him in the

1300
01:07:31,387 --> 01:07:32,147
Speaker 27: environment for sure.

1301
01:07:32,267 --> 01:07:34,027
Speaker 3: Do you look too much into the future about when

1302
01:07:34,187 --> 01:07:36,307
Speaker 3: he's going to be available, when he might retire, or

1303
01:07:36,347 --> 01:07:38,227
Speaker 3: do you try and live in the presence and just

1304
01:07:38,307 --> 01:07:40,547
Speaker 3: go right, this is a series we're focusing on Kaine. See,

1305
01:07:40,587 --> 01:07:42,627
Speaker 3: we don't need to worry about what's down the track

1306
01:07:42,667 --> 01:07:44,107
Speaker 3: in six twelve months time.

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01:07:45,427 --> 01:07:47,987
Speaker 26: No, yeah, I don't think. You know, it's really sort

1308
01:07:48,027 --> 01:07:51,187
Speaker 26: of doing exactly that, you know, being present for this series.

1309
01:07:51,267 --> 01:07:54,987
Speaker 26: You know, our conversations are ongoing. Like I keep saying,

1310
01:07:54,987 --> 01:07:56,907
Speaker 26: you know, there's no doubt in his you know, and

1311
01:07:56,987 --> 01:07:59,387
Speaker 26: his keenness to play and his investment in the team.

1312
01:07:59,987 --> 01:08:02,947
Speaker 26: So you know, we just keep building on that. But

1313
01:08:03,267 --> 01:08:06,587
Speaker 26: when we just keep chatting to each other and take

1314
01:08:06,627 --> 01:08:08,507
Speaker 26: a series at a time, what do.

1315
01:08:08,507 --> 01:08:11,707
Speaker 3: You expect from England across this one day series? You know,

1316
01:08:11,987 --> 01:08:14,707
Speaker 3: they've obviously had some success in the format, but maybe

1317
01:08:14,747 --> 01:08:17,587
Speaker 3: fifty over wise they aren't as strong as they have

1318
01:08:17,787 --> 01:08:19,867
Speaker 3: been previously. So so what do you expect from England

1319
01:08:19,907 --> 01:08:20,747
Speaker 3: over these three games?

1320
01:08:22,267 --> 01:08:24,707
Speaker 26: I look there again, a very attacking one day unit,

1321
01:08:25,827 --> 01:08:28,347
Speaker 26: you know they so you kind of know what you're

1322
01:08:28,347 --> 01:08:29,947
Speaker 26: going to get from them. They I think they are

1323
01:08:29,947 --> 01:08:31,947
Speaker 26: a very good one day outfit. I've got you know,

1324
01:08:31,947 --> 01:08:34,067
Speaker 26: a lot of all rounders that give them great balance

1325
01:08:34,107 --> 01:08:37,667
Speaker 26: in their team. So from that point of view, expecting

1326
01:08:37,707 --> 01:08:41,987
Speaker 26: a really tough series and a tough arting and looking

1327
01:08:42,067 --> 01:08:44,347
Speaker 26: forward to because you know, these are the type of

1328
01:08:44,467 --> 01:08:46,427
Speaker 26: series that you know, really stretch you as a team

1329
01:08:46,467 --> 01:08:48,667
Speaker 26: and going to give you good insight as to the

1330
01:08:48,787 --> 01:08:51,587
Speaker 26: areas that you are doing well in certain the areas

1331
01:08:51,587 --> 01:08:53,627
Speaker 26: that need to get evolved and improved on.

1332
01:08:53,867 --> 01:08:56,227
Speaker 3: What's your mindset around the style of one day cricket?

1333
01:08:56,307 --> 01:08:58,547
Speaker 3: Is there any changes that are needed from the black Caps?

1334
01:08:58,547 --> 01:09:02,947
Speaker 3: Obviously a Champions Trophy final earlier as well? Is it

1335
01:09:03,667 --> 01:09:05,667
Speaker 3: Are they on the right track with with now you

1336
01:09:05,787 --> 01:09:07,867
Speaker 3: at the helm, you can see where they're going to

1337
01:09:07,947 --> 01:09:09,187
Speaker 3: in the one day format of the game.

1338
01:09:11,387 --> 01:09:13,147
Speaker 26: I mean, yeah, as you said, I mean they're a

1339
01:09:13,267 --> 01:09:17,107
Speaker 26: very successful one day outfit. So it's really not for

1340
01:09:17,227 --> 01:09:19,307
Speaker 26: me to step in and try and change a huge

1341
01:09:19,307 --> 01:09:21,747
Speaker 26: amount of, you know, of the way that we do

1342
01:09:21,947 --> 01:09:25,347
Speaker 26: play because it has been successful. I think the game

1343
01:09:25,467 --> 01:09:28,507
Speaker 26: sort of guides as to we might you know, want

1344
01:09:28,507 --> 01:09:31,947
Speaker 26: to evolve because cricket is ever evolving, so you know,

1345
01:09:32,067 --> 01:09:34,707
Speaker 26: but the book in the of the fundamentals and the

1346
01:09:34,787 --> 01:09:36,867
Speaker 26: pillars of the team are there. So it's really just

1347
01:09:37,067 --> 01:09:40,147
Speaker 26: resting on that, just encouraging the guys to continue to

1348
01:09:40,187 --> 01:09:44,027
Speaker 26: be the best versions of themselves and we just sort

1349
01:09:44,027 --> 01:09:46,507
Speaker 26: of keep pushing the needle a little bit as a

1350
01:09:46,587 --> 01:09:49,387
Speaker 26: team and trying to see where that leaves us.

1351
01:09:49,547 --> 01:09:52,107
Speaker 3: Do you see the series has been effectively the start

1352
01:09:52,147 --> 01:09:54,667
Speaker 3: of the preparations for the twenty twenty seven World Cup.

1353
01:09:56,027 --> 01:09:59,147
Speaker 26: I suppose yes or no in that you know, it

1354
01:09:59,307 --> 01:10:02,347
Speaker 26: is a fairly experienced and settle group, so it's really

1355
01:10:02,467 --> 01:10:06,707
Speaker 26: just a continution on But yes, it is the build

1356
01:10:06,787 --> 01:10:10,107
Speaker 26: up and obviously the last fifty over competition was a

1357
01:10:10,187 --> 01:10:12,667
Speaker 26: champions trophy sort of sort of neck if he's into

1358
01:10:12,867 --> 01:10:16,107
Speaker 26: building for the next pinnacle event, which is at will Cup.

1359
01:10:16,307 --> 01:10:18,467
Speaker 3: Obviously a big diet of white bull cricket at the moment,

1360
01:10:18,587 --> 01:10:21,027
Speaker 3: rob But how much you at the back of your

1361
01:10:21,027 --> 01:10:23,387
Speaker 3: mind thinking about that that Test series against the West

1362
01:10:23,467 --> 01:10:25,947
Speaker 3: and is coming up in December, late November early December.

1363
01:10:27,467 --> 01:10:32,307
Speaker 26: Yeah, it is very important to us, and obviously it

1364
01:10:32,387 --> 01:10:34,147
Speaker 26: is part of the World Test Championship, the start of

1365
01:10:34,187 --> 01:10:37,867
Speaker 26: the World Test Championship cycle, So for us it is

1366
01:10:37,947 --> 01:10:40,347
Speaker 26: in the back of my mind. You know, there's obviously

1367
01:10:40,347 --> 01:10:43,347
Speaker 26: a lot of sort of preparation and thinking that goes

1368
01:10:43,427 --> 01:10:45,667
Speaker 26: into it, whiles still focusing on what's in front of

1369
01:10:45,747 --> 01:10:47,707
Speaker 26: us right now, so you know, it's sort of a

1370
01:10:47,787 --> 01:10:51,867
Speaker 26: secondary thought, but obviously of great importance.

1371
01:10:51,987 --> 01:10:53,387
Speaker 27: So you know, to around.

1372
01:10:53,187 --> 01:10:56,227
Speaker 26: Managing players making sure that it's already and fit and

1373
01:10:56,307 --> 01:10:59,907
Speaker 26: firing for that series. But again not overlooking what's in

1374
01:10:59,947 --> 01:11:00,907
Speaker 26: front of us at the moment.

1375
01:11:01,187 --> 01:11:03,067
Speaker 3: Rob Walder with us a couple of fine questions, Rob,

1376
01:11:03,107 --> 01:11:04,827
Speaker 3: if I can before we finish off, what you've been

1377
01:11:04,867 --> 01:11:06,707
Speaker 3: the job for a few months now and head a

1378
01:11:06,707 --> 01:11:08,667
Speaker 3: little bit of home cricket, what's been the thing you've

1379
01:11:08,707 --> 01:11:11,027
Speaker 3: learned the most or the best thing you've learned over

1380
01:11:11,067 --> 01:11:12,667
Speaker 3: the last few months and stacking on this job.

1381
01:11:14,547 --> 01:11:17,827
Speaker 26: Well, I suppose it's probably more an affirmation really of

1382
01:11:19,067 --> 01:11:20,787
Speaker 26: you know, just the group and the way that the

1383
01:11:20,867 --> 01:11:24,067
Speaker 26: group operates. So obviously being part of New Zealand cricket

1384
01:11:24,867 --> 01:11:29,267
Speaker 26: in some respects in the provincial space, but then you know,

1385
01:11:29,387 --> 01:11:33,347
Speaker 26: playing against the Black Apps whilst coaching South Africa, so

1386
01:11:33,587 --> 01:11:35,827
Speaker 26: just prepping against the black Caps, but then being sort

1387
01:11:35,827 --> 01:11:37,507
Speaker 26: of on the other side of the ropen part of

1388
01:11:37,787 --> 01:11:41,427
Speaker 26: the group internally, it's just an affirmation of you know,

1389
01:11:41,587 --> 01:11:45,587
Speaker 26: the tightness of the group, real willingness to grow and learn,

1390
01:11:47,227 --> 01:11:51,027
Speaker 26: you know, a great connectedness together and a real nice

1391
01:11:51,107 --> 01:11:54,427
Speaker 26: team unit. So yeah, it's been sort of everything I'd

1392
01:11:54,507 --> 01:11:57,427
Speaker 26: expect it would be and really enjoying.

1393
01:11:57,187 --> 01:11:59,667
Speaker 3: It and just hope that weather holds out for this.

1394
01:11:59,907 --> 01:12:02,667
Speaker 3: This one day series has been the greatest of October weather.

1395
01:12:02,747 --> 01:12:05,267
Speaker 3: What is this stuff far exactly?

1396
01:12:05,427 --> 01:12:08,307
Speaker 26: But I suppose you controller so just hoping for good

1397
01:12:08,387 --> 01:12:10,787
Speaker 26: days as the summer progressive for.

1398
01:12:10,827 --> 01:12:12,467
Speaker 3: Sure, Rob Walter, will you the best luck on this

1399
01:12:12,547 --> 01:12:14,467
Speaker 3: one day series and across the summer. Thanks for joining

1400
01:12:14,547 --> 01:12:18,427
Speaker 3: us on News Talk ZIB this Sunday afternoon. Appreciate it. Yes,

1401
01:12:18,627 --> 01:12:21,307
Speaker 3: Rob Walter joining us on News Talk zb the coach

1402
01:12:21,627 --> 01:12:24,227
Speaker 3: of the black Caps who are in action from two

1403
01:12:24,227 --> 01:12:27,147
Speaker 3: o'clock bay Ovl the Mount Mongernuie weathers looking pretty good.

1404
01:12:27,187 --> 01:12:28,987
Speaker 3: I can tell you that the black Caps have won

1405
01:12:29,107 --> 01:12:33,107
Speaker 3: the toss and will bowl first. First ball is at

1406
01:12:33,187 --> 01:12:35,307
Speaker 3: two o'clock. We'll keep a close eye on that for you.

1407
01:12:35,507 --> 01:12:37,507
Speaker 3: After two I can tell you as well. It was

1408
01:12:37,547 --> 01:12:40,267
Speaker 3: the US Open Final that Paul Cole was and I

1409
01:12:40,347 --> 01:12:42,627
Speaker 3: had a noted down as the semi final, but regardless,

1410
01:12:42,707 --> 01:12:48,307
Speaker 3: unfortunately he has lost in three game straight games eleven nine, eleven, three,

1411
01:12:48,347 --> 01:12:51,547
Speaker 3: eleven three to a sal who was playing at the moment.

1412
01:12:51,627 --> 01:12:53,507
Speaker 3: So not to be for Paul Cole in the US

1413
01:12:53,787 --> 01:12:58,387
Speaker 3: Open final unfortunately, and the La Dodgers one nill up

1414
01:12:58,507 --> 01:13:01,907
Speaker 3: in the Game two of the World Series Baseball Top

1415
01:13:01,947 --> 01:13:05,467
Speaker 3: of the second Toronto winning yesterday in game one. We

1416
01:13:05,547 --> 01:13:08,667
Speaker 3: will take a break after this. James mcconey joins us

1417
01:13:08,787 --> 01:13:09,867
Speaker 3: on News Talks MB.

1418
01:13:11,427 --> 01:13:15,107
Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have your say on eighty eighty

1419
01:13:15,347 --> 01:13:19,547
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with g J Gunnos, New Zealand's most trusted

1420
01:13:19,587 --> 01:13:20,587
Speaker 1: home builder, News.

1421
01:13:20,467 --> 01:13:24,707
Speaker 3: Talks B sixteen away from two. On News TALKSB after two,

1422
01:13:24,747 --> 01:13:27,427
Speaker 3: we'll take you into the Canterbury camp after the NPC

1423
01:13:27,707 --> 01:13:30,107
Speaker 3: title when yesterday Alex drou fro out of the Phoenix

1424
01:13:30,147 --> 01:13:33,227
Speaker 3: to join us as well. But as we do this

1425
01:13:33,347 --> 01:13:36,387
Speaker 3: time on a Sunday afternoon, we welcome James mccony into

1426
01:13:36,707 --> 01:13:40,067
Speaker 3: Weekend Sport Afternoon, James afternoon.

1427
01:13:40,347 --> 01:13:42,307
Speaker 22: Elliott ET.

1428
01:13:44,067 --> 01:13:50,307
Speaker 3: Great movie, great movie, absolutely named after Elliott from Et incidentally,

1429
01:13:50,547 --> 01:13:54,867
Speaker 3: which I think I've told you before in PC final yesterday.

1430
01:13:55,107 --> 01:13:55,747
Speaker 3: How good was that?

1431
01:13:57,187 --> 01:14:00,067
Speaker 22: Unbelievable? Wait a second, wait a second, have you done

1432
01:14:00,107 --> 01:14:03,027
Speaker 22: your full disclosure of where or from Elliott? Because yeah,

1433
01:14:03,107 --> 01:14:06,147
Speaker 22: it was. It was a great occasion. Where are you

1434
01:14:06,667 --> 01:14:07,787
Speaker 22: just play it out there right now?

1435
01:14:07,907 --> 01:14:11,147
Speaker 3: I am from the Canterbury region that is the NPC

1436
01:14:11,387 --> 01:14:13,307
Speaker 3: champions as of use today. There we go done.

1437
01:14:13,427 --> 01:14:17,067
Speaker 22: Yes, Yeah, it was nice and we witnessed the suffocation,

1438
01:14:17,307 --> 01:14:20,027
Speaker 22: that's what it was. You know, Canterbury spwards and their

1439
01:14:20,107 --> 01:14:23,387
Speaker 22: defense were impressive and actually the few times they threw

1440
01:14:23,427 --> 01:14:26,187
Speaker 22: it through the ball wide at work, So you can't

1441
01:14:26,227 --> 01:14:29,267
Speaker 22: fault it really in terms of winning finals. That region

1442
01:14:29,427 --> 01:14:32,547
Speaker 22: know exactly what they're doing and they stuck to their knitting. Really,

1443
01:14:32,987 --> 01:14:36,507
Speaker 22: even though it was a sunny day, they assessed the

1444
01:14:36,587 --> 01:14:40,547
Speaker 22: conditions and that win. The Otago team should have made

1445
01:14:40,627 --> 01:14:42,667
Speaker 22: more of it, but in the middle of the first half,

1446
01:14:42,987 --> 01:14:46,667
Speaker 22: I think Otaga had thirty phases and didn't go anywhere

1447
01:14:46,867 --> 01:14:51,267
Speaker 22: and that was pivotal because they couldn't amassed enough points

1448
01:14:51,307 --> 01:14:53,867
Speaker 22: with that win. And even Thomas Umonger Jetson who gave

1449
01:14:53,907 --> 01:14:55,987
Speaker 22: a beautiful interview at the end of the game to

1450
01:14:56,427 --> 01:15:00,227
Speaker 22: Taylor Johnson on Sky whereas in tears, but basically giving

1451
01:15:00,307 --> 01:15:03,827
Speaker 22: that exact analysis, which is they were just shut out

1452
01:15:03,867 --> 01:15:05,187
Speaker 22: of the game at a critical.

1453
01:15:04,907 --> 01:15:06,027
Speaker 2: Time they weren't.

1454
01:15:06,507 --> 01:15:08,467
Speaker 3: I just love the occasion though, the noise from the

1455
01:15:08,507 --> 01:15:10,747
Speaker 3: Otago fans that had made their way up. It was

1456
01:15:10,827 --> 01:15:13,547
Speaker 3: four o'clock, the weather played ball apart from a little

1457
01:15:13,587 --> 01:15:16,147
Speaker 3: bit of wind as well. It just made you love

1458
01:15:16,227 --> 01:15:17,747
Speaker 3: the NBC and what it stands for.

1459
01:15:18,707 --> 01:15:20,387
Speaker 22: Yeah, that it was just so nice wasn't it just

1460
01:15:20,467 --> 01:15:25,107
Speaker 22: seeing that festival atmosphere that I mean, look, let's talk

1461
01:15:25,147 --> 01:15:28,667
Speaker 22: about it now. The Larry the Lamb winning the mascot race.

1462
01:15:28,827 --> 01:15:31,867
Speaker 22: There needs to be an investigation. Get Jeff Tuvy on

1463
01:15:31,987 --> 01:15:35,147
Speaker 22: it because he was a rapid and I have it

1464
01:15:35,227 --> 01:15:37,547
Speaker 22: on good authority that he's actually a spreader. I thought

1465
01:15:37,587 --> 01:15:40,827
Speaker 22: it might be Tim Welton, you know New Zealand's fastest man,

1466
01:15:41,427 --> 01:15:45,467
Speaker 22: underneath the Larry's mask, but it was it was a

1467
01:15:45,547 --> 01:15:48,667
Speaker 22: sprinter who plays in the local under eighty five's competition.

1468
01:15:48,867 --> 01:15:50,667
Speaker 12: So look for this.

1469
01:15:50,987 --> 01:15:52,507
Speaker 22: We haven't heard the end of this and I'm hoping

1470
01:15:52,587 --> 01:15:55,187
Speaker 22: that New Stalks at be that you've got your best

1471
01:15:55,267 --> 01:15:58,547
Speaker 22: journalist on this, because that was If anyone saw that

1472
01:15:58,667 --> 01:16:01,427
Speaker 22: mascot race, he won it in a cant just.

1473
01:16:01,427 --> 01:16:05,947
Speaker 3: Another title for Canterbury. I've got Tony small On, who's

1474
01:16:05,947 --> 01:16:08,227
Speaker 3: the Cannabi Rugby Union chief executive, so I'll put that

1475
01:16:08,347 --> 01:16:10,147
Speaker 3: to him after two o'clock and see if we can

1476
01:16:10,187 --> 01:16:12,707
Speaker 3: get to the bottom of that, because boy, he showed

1477
01:16:12,787 --> 01:16:13,147
Speaker 3: some toe.

1478
01:16:14,147 --> 01:16:15,587
Speaker 2: Maybe before we.

1479
01:16:15,627 --> 01:16:17,867
Speaker 22: Move on for rugby, I just wanted to say Dylan Pleager,

1480
01:16:17,947 --> 01:16:20,707
Speaker 22: who is the young up and coming halfback. I felt

1481
01:16:20,707 --> 01:16:22,307
Speaker 22: for him, because he sort of did all his core

1482
01:16:22,427 --> 01:16:26,147
Speaker 22: roles really well for Otago, but he probably just didn't

1483
01:16:26,187 --> 01:16:28,667
Speaker 22: run enough, and that is it's a bit like having

1484
01:16:28,787 --> 01:16:32,067
Speaker 22: someone with that with the acceleration of Ree Walsh and

1485
01:16:32,147 --> 01:16:34,947
Speaker 22: not seeing them really chance their arm. And it's tough

1486
01:16:34,987 --> 01:16:37,747
Speaker 22: for him, but one of those games where he'll learn

1487
01:16:37,787 --> 01:16:40,827
Speaker 22: a lot from that, so you know. And also Chafe

1488
01:16:40,987 --> 01:16:43,827
Speaker 22: Hackey come on six foot four runs like the wind

1489
01:16:43,947 --> 01:16:45,987
Speaker 22: kicks goals. He needs to work out whether he wants

1490
01:16:46,027 --> 01:16:48,867
Speaker 22: to sit behind the All Blacks or make himself available

1491
01:16:48,907 --> 01:16:53,707
Speaker 22: for Fiji or Tonga because he has Test match potential.

1492
01:16:53,427 --> 01:16:53,867
Speaker 2: He does it.

1493
01:16:54,147 --> 01:16:56,467
Speaker 3: I like the high potential in the way that rugby's

1494
01:16:56,507 --> 01:16:58,587
Speaker 3: going at the moment in Test rugby. Speaking of All

1495
01:16:58,667 --> 01:17:01,147
Speaker 3: Blacks and Ireland in Chicago this time next week or

1496
01:17:01,227 --> 01:17:04,467
Speaker 3: nine o'clock next week, what are you expecting out of that?

1497
01:17:04,507 --> 01:17:06,907
Speaker 3: You've been to Chicago before, Yeah.

1498
01:17:06,707 --> 01:17:08,307
Speaker 22: So I'm expecting you and I will have a beer,

1499
01:17:08,387 --> 01:17:10,507
Speaker 22: maybe go to a comedy club or something Elliott. But

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01:17:10,707 --> 01:17:13,947
Speaker 22: I also think that Ireland are hoping for an ambush,

1501
01:17:14,027 --> 01:17:17,547
Speaker 22: but their plans have been thwarted somewhat. Big Lock. Joe

1502
01:17:17,627 --> 01:17:23,667
Speaker 22: McCarthy is out. Mackanson the very versatile winger Australian is

1503
01:17:23,747 --> 01:17:26,907
Speaker 22: out as well. Bundy k and Robbie hensch Or are doubtful.

1504
01:17:27,027 --> 01:17:30,467
Speaker 22: So this is the issue for them is coming over

1505
01:17:30,507 --> 01:17:33,067
Speaker 22: a sort of mid season really, so they all Blacks

1506
01:17:33,347 --> 01:17:35,907
Speaker 22: in a really good position and I think the team

1507
01:17:36,427 --> 01:17:39,507
Speaker 22: that played in Perth should get a start. Maybe Caleb

1508
01:17:39,587 --> 01:17:42,027
Speaker 22: Clark comes back for finding a nukoup just because of that.

1509
01:17:42,547 --> 01:17:45,947
Speaker 22: You know the constant aerial threat of Test rugby. But

1510
01:17:46,547 --> 01:17:48,827
Speaker 22: how are you feeling about that as well? Elliott?

1511
01:17:48,987 --> 01:17:51,027
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think I'd roll out the

1512
01:17:51,067 --> 01:17:53,587
Speaker 3: same team again. I don't see too many reasons to

1513
01:17:53,947 --> 01:17:57,147
Speaker 3: change necessarily the obviously two Pivi's gone for the season

1514
01:17:57,267 --> 01:17:59,827
Speaker 3: to Logs who's not there, So maybe there's a tweak

1515
01:17:59,867 --> 01:18:01,347
Speaker 3: that needs to be made to the bench. Do you

1516
01:18:01,427 --> 01:18:03,907
Speaker 3: look at a Dowry potentially off the bench or a

1517
01:18:04,347 --> 01:18:08,107
Speaker 3: female to cover lock six? Be interesting? But I think

1518
01:18:08,267 --> 01:18:10,787
Speaker 3: what they struck on there, especially at midfield, is what

1519
01:18:10,907 --> 01:18:13,227
Speaker 3: I'd go for for this tester. I like the Barrett

1520
01:18:13,267 --> 01:18:15,787
Speaker 3: too pie A combination. I think it's worthy of sticking

1521
01:18:15,827 --> 01:18:16,787
Speaker 3: with for a few more tests.

1522
01:18:17,387 --> 01:18:19,827
Speaker 22: Yes, I think so too. And look at the all Blacks.

1523
01:18:20,347 --> 01:18:23,427
Speaker 22: The issue for them is that they haven't mastered the

1524
01:18:23,627 --> 01:18:25,547
Speaker 22: art of taking the referee out of the game, so

1525
01:18:25,747 --> 01:18:28,107
Speaker 22: that they need to sort of I guess work on

1526
01:18:28,187 --> 01:18:31,907
Speaker 22: that was a game management playing style. They've got Jason

1527
01:18:31,987 --> 01:18:35,267
Speaker 22: Holland who's pretty much announced that he's leaving, So where

1528
01:18:35,267 --> 01:18:38,067
Speaker 22: does that leave the players in terms of their attack strategy?

1529
01:18:39,027 --> 01:18:41,227
Speaker 22: Does he still have control over that? So there are

1530
01:18:41,267 --> 01:18:44,027
Speaker 22: a few intriguing points to look at. And of course

1531
01:18:44,067 --> 01:18:47,787
Speaker 22: in Chicago in November it can be ice cold, and

1532
01:18:47,907 --> 01:18:48,987
Speaker 22: what's called of than being cool?

1533
01:18:49,027 --> 01:18:53,627
Speaker 3: Elliott ice cold? To quote my man Andre three thousand

1534
01:18:53,827 --> 01:18:58,147
Speaker 3: and finally, James International Rugby League, it has been hectic.

1535
01:18:58,427 --> 01:19:01,267
Speaker 3: Tongusarm Ola today across the ditch is going to be

1536
01:19:01,307 --> 01:19:03,227
Speaker 3: absolutely huge from what I'm.

1537
01:19:03,147 --> 01:19:06,547
Speaker 22: Hearingily out here in West Aukland, there are utes going

1538
01:19:06,547 --> 01:19:08,627
Speaker 22: around with the biggest tongue and flags I've ever seen,

1539
01:19:09,187 --> 01:19:11,827
Speaker 22: and I'll send you a photo if I can get

1540
01:19:11,907 --> 01:19:16,267
Speaker 22: close to them. It's already reached fever pitch here. So

1541
01:19:16,387 --> 01:19:20,907
Speaker 22: I hope that sun Corp is absolutely heaving. The International

1542
01:19:21,027 --> 01:19:22,947
Speaker 22: Rugby League is alive and well, and you can tell

1543
01:19:23,067 --> 01:19:25,827
Speaker 22: that league needs to keep on moving to new territories.

1544
01:19:25,827 --> 01:19:28,307
Speaker 22: And I look at rugby and rugby so lucky. It's

1545
01:19:28,347 --> 01:19:30,947
Speaker 22: got Argentina and it's got France. He's just a bit

1546
01:19:30,947 --> 01:19:34,027
Speaker 22: of variety. So league really they need to go and say,

1547
01:19:34,307 --> 01:19:38,027
Speaker 22: you've got Argentina, will take Brazil. You've got France. We're

1548
01:19:38,067 --> 01:19:41,587
Speaker 22: going to Germany. You've got Japan, how about China. It's

1549
01:19:41,667 --> 01:19:45,307
Speaker 22: time for that sport to expand because I love International League,

1550
01:19:45,707 --> 01:19:47,387
Speaker 22: proper tests and long mate.

1551
01:19:47,307 --> 01:19:50,827
Speaker 3: Last, absolutely and just finally in time for a quick word.

1552
01:19:50,907 --> 01:19:54,147
Speaker 3: The NBA has shown both sides of it this week,

1553
01:19:54,227 --> 01:19:56,547
Speaker 3: the good, the bad, and perhaps the ugly as well.

1554
01:19:57,347 --> 01:20:01,747
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's right. The match fixing is a real talking point.

1555
01:20:01,867 --> 01:20:05,067
Speaker 22: And when they show some highlights low lights of Terry

1556
01:20:05,187 --> 01:20:07,707
Speaker 22: Rosie just passing the ball away, I think he's going

1557
01:20:07,787 --> 01:20:13,147
Speaker 22: to struggle to avoid jail time. Chauncey Billups, he's the

1558
01:20:13,187 --> 01:20:15,987
Speaker 22: coach of my favorite team, the Portland Trailblazers. He was

1559
01:20:16,027 --> 01:20:19,027
Speaker 22: always making some questionable cause. His main thing though, is

1560
01:20:19,107 --> 01:20:23,107
Speaker 22: that it's an illegal gambling sort of rigged poker matches

1561
01:20:23,147 --> 01:20:27,747
Speaker 22: run by the mafia that he's been alluring in rich punters,

1562
01:20:27,907 --> 01:20:31,707
Speaker 22: and so I mean, yeah, he's on massively thin ice,

1563
01:20:31,827 --> 01:20:35,387
Speaker 22: but it does expose the fact that basketball is probably

1564
01:20:35,427 --> 01:20:37,707
Speaker 22: one of the easier games to rig because I think

1565
01:20:37,747 --> 01:20:40,747
Speaker 22: there's other players, Malik Beasley, these other names that will

1566
01:20:40,787 --> 01:20:43,707
Speaker 22: probably emerge in the media again and will be under

1567
01:20:43,787 --> 01:20:47,027
Speaker 22: the spotlight. But on the highlight side, go and have

1568
01:20:47,067 --> 01:20:49,667
Speaker 22: a look at Victor Wembin Yama Wemby. He's grown and

1569
01:20:49,747 --> 01:20:51,947
Speaker 22: then I think he's seven foot three. Now he's seven

1570
01:20:52,027 --> 01:20:55,347
Speaker 22: foot four and he got nine blocks yesterday in a game,

1571
01:20:55,627 --> 01:20:57,987
Speaker 22: and there's just an absolute freak. So there's some pretty

1572
01:20:58,027 --> 01:21:00,067
Speaker 22: cool stuff happening on court as well.

1573
01:21:00,267 --> 01:21:02,307
Speaker 3: Have you seen the movie The Sting James from the

1574
01:21:02,347 --> 01:21:05,987
Speaker 3: nineteen seventies, Because the X ray glasses or the X

1575
01:21:06,067 --> 01:21:08,787
Speaker 3: ray that they're using under the table the stud they

1576
01:21:08,867 --> 01:21:11,547
Speaker 3: just get someone fake drunk on gin and pretend they're

1577
01:21:11,587 --> 01:21:13,547
Speaker 3: drunk while they're playing poker. That was what they did

1578
01:21:13,627 --> 01:21:14,107
Speaker 3: back in the day.

1579
01:21:15,267 --> 01:21:15,467
Speaker 28: I know.

1580
01:21:15,627 --> 01:21:18,667
Speaker 22: Now there's there's all this technology and it's a bit.

1581
01:21:18,787 --> 01:21:23,187
Speaker 22: It's pretty shameful stuff, isn't it Like, And anyone who

1582
01:21:23,267 --> 01:21:26,907
Speaker 22: cheats like that, and any match fixing is just abhurrent,

1583
01:21:27,027 --> 01:21:29,907
Speaker 22: and especially if you've got if you're painting on it, Elliott,

1584
01:21:29,987 --> 01:21:33,667
Speaker 22: it could be very frustrating. But they were and they

1585
01:21:34,747 --> 01:21:37,307
Speaker 22: had a short term gain and now they're feeling the pain.

1586
01:21:37,267 --> 01:21:39,827
Speaker 3: They are indeed, James mcconey, appreciate your time. Look forward

1587
01:21:39,827 --> 01:21:41,147
Speaker 3: to seeing you in Chicago next week.

1588
01:21:42,067 --> 01:21:45,147
Speaker 22: Cheers Elliott. I'll shout you b a mate, I'll.

1589
01:21:45,227 --> 01:21:47,227
Speaker 3: Hold you to that. James mccony, thank you very much

1590
01:21:47,267 --> 01:21:49,387
Speaker 3: for your time this afternoon, and I'm sure all the

1591
01:21:49,467 --> 01:21:53,347
Speaker 3: touch based Piney from Chicago next weekend. Here on news

1592
01:21:53,467 --> 01:21:56,787
Speaker 3: Talk zeb Rapidly approaching two o'clock, we'll come back wrap

1593
01:21:56,907 --> 01:21:58,107
Speaker 3: up the hour after this.

1594
01:21:58,707 --> 01:22:02,347
Speaker 1: From breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic field

1595
01:22:03,987 --> 01:22:06,147
Speaker 1: weekend Sport news Talk Zen.

1596
01:22:07,507 --> 01:22:10,147
Speaker 3: It is coming up four away from two on News

1597
01:22:10,227 --> 01:22:13,707
Speaker 3: Talk zebb Ash on the boxing Joseph Parker high alligant.

1598
01:22:13,747 --> 01:22:16,347
Speaker 3: Devastated for Joe Parker. I only read the live updates

1599
01:22:16,387 --> 01:22:17,907
Speaker 3: around by rounds. I had to know if it stopped

1600
01:22:17,907 --> 01:22:21,587
Speaker 3: to early, probably bookies were involved. Jayoppetize one to keep

1601
01:22:21,667 --> 01:22:23,627
Speaker 3: an eye on. He is a different white division, but

1602
01:22:23,667 --> 01:22:26,107
Speaker 3: boy does v gumption. He's not a sarm and is

1603
01:22:26,147 --> 01:22:29,227
Speaker 3: not ruled out moving to heavyweight. Undefeated, knockout artist and

1604
01:22:29,427 --> 01:22:32,667
Speaker 3: what a warrior. Cheers Ash. Nice to hear from you

1605
01:22:32,787 --> 01:22:34,787
Speaker 3: this afternoon. Another one says to all those who say

1606
01:22:34,867 --> 01:22:36,987
Speaker 3: is no good, can't punch et cetera. Can I just

1607
01:22:37,067 --> 01:22:39,787
Speaker 3: say get in the ring and do better. Had he won,

1608
01:22:39,827 --> 01:22:41,787
Speaker 3: those same people would have said he is the best

1609
01:22:41,867 --> 01:22:45,507
Speaker 3: thing since slice bread. After two o'clock on news Talk ZEBB,

1610
01:22:45,627 --> 01:22:48,587
Speaker 3: we dig into the NPC final. Tony Smell, the chief

1611
01:22:48,627 --> 01:22:51,947
Speaker 3: executive of Canterbury Rugby, joins us. We also check in

1612
01:22:52,067 --> 01:22:55,587
Speaker 3: with the Phoenix as well, and Corey Peter's New Zealand

1613
01:22:55,707 --> 01:22:58,987
Speaker 3: Paraskia on the program as well. But your news, sport

1614
01:22:59,107 --> 01:23:02,547
Speaker 3: and weather coming up very shortly on News Talk zeb.

1615
01:23:04,147 --> 01:23:06,987
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1616
01:23:07,427 --> 01:23:11,107
Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on winter sport on your

1617
01:23:11,187 --> 01:23:12,827
Speaker 1: homes Sports News.

1618
01:23:12,747 --> 01:23:16,987
Speaker 3: Talks on what we're going back into the last hour

1619
01:23:17,107 --> 01:23:20,707
Speaker 3: of weekend sports for Sunday afternoon on your Labor Day

1620
01:23:20,947 --> 01:23:26,067
Speaker 3: long weekend Delegate Smith, Andy McDonald, Jason Pine back next weekend,

1621
01:23:26,267 --> 01:23:30,307
Speaker 3: enjoying a well deserved long weekends off already a breakthrough

1622
01:23:30,467 --> 01:23:34,667
Speaker 3: in the cricket black Cats getting one first ball. That's

1623
01:23:34,707 --> 01:23:38,587
Speaker 3: how unfolded curts our friends on the ACC Jamie Smith,

1624
01:23:41,707 --> 01:23:42,027
Speaker 3: Hi lo.

1625
01:23:43,027 --> 01:23:44,947
Speaker 2: Stop seem out of Jamie Smith.

1626
01:23:46,387 --> 01:23:50,707
Speaker 29: Straight between bat and pad and rocks the middle sou back.

1627
01:23:51,307 --> 01:23:57,227
Speaker 29: What a ginger shot from Jamie Smith and New Zealand

1628
01:23:57,307 --> 01:24:00,667
Speaker 29: strike ball one. Indeed they did ball one. Black Caps

1629
01:24:00,747 --> 01:24:05,587
Speaker 29: get the Wickeds. Matt Henry takes out Jamie Smith. England

1630
01:24:05,667 --> 01:24:08,947
Speaker 29: now three for one in one point one.

1631
01:24:08,907 --> 01:24:11,787
Speaker 3: Overs down route and duckets at the crease for all

1632
01:24:11,827 --> 01:24:13,187
Speaker 3: the black Cats. So keep an eye on that for

1633
01:24:13,267 --> 01:24:16,947
Speaker 3: you over at the next hour. Coming up this out

1634
01:24:17,027 --> 01:24:21,187
Speaker 3: on the program, ann A b CEO. Tony Smail joins

1635
01:24:21,307 --> 01:24:26,107
Speaker 3: us after the NPC victory yesterday, fairwelling a few people.

1636
01:24:27,067 --> 01:24:30,747
Speaker 3: Tom Christy, their captain is leaving, Their coach, Marty Burke

1637
01:24:30,947 --> 01:24:33,987
Speaker 3: is leaving. Their stadium is also leaving. I think that's

1638
01:24:34,027 --> 01:24:37,347
Speaker 3: the one they're least sad about. Tony Smile joins the

1639
01:24:37,387 --> 01:24:40,747
Speaker 3: program in a few moments time to reflect on yesterday's

1640
01:24:40,907 --> 01:24:44,227
Speaker 3: NPC final. Alex through for the Phoenix Skipper on the

1641
01:24:44,307 --> 01:24:46,667
Speaker 3: way as well they play They play the Brisbane Raw

1642
01:24:46,787 --> 01:24:49,947
Speaker 3: from three this afternoon. We'll catch up with him as

1643
01:24:49,987 --> 01:24:53,867
Speaker 3: they prepare for their home season start. Only won the

1644
01:24:54,027 --> 01:24:57,387
Speaker 3: one home game last year, so what do they need

1645
01:24:57,547 --> 01:25:01,147
Speaker 3: to improve? And we'll also catch up with Corey Peters

1646
01:25:01,227 --> 01:25:03,827
Speaker 3: New Zealand sit skip on the program as the countdown

1647
01:25:03,867 --> 01:25:08,147
Speaker 3: to the Paralympics Milan Cortina continue and Michael Burg is

1648
01:25:08,147 --> 01:25:09,987
Speaker 3: out of the New Zealand. Herold's written a great piece

1649
01:25:10,627 --> 01:25:14,907
Speaker 3: that the only one of the only high school All

1650
01:25:15,027 --> 01:25:17,667
Speaker 3: blacks Burg will join us to explain all. We can

1651
01:25:17,707 --> 01:25:20,147
Speaker 3: read this piece on the Insied Herald as well. But

1652
01:25:20,307 --> 01:25:23,267
Speaker 3: as we always do this time on a Saturday and

1653
01:25:23,387 --> 01:25:27,387
Speaker 3: Sunday after two o'clock, we get the rocky music going,

1654
01:25:28,467 --> 01:25:37,227
Speaker 3: Yes we do. In Casabiston at eight after two to

1655
01:25:37,307 --> 01:25:40,387
Speaker 3: the Premier League first and Sunderland shocked Chelsea at home.

1656
01:25:41,027 --> 01:25:42,507
Speaker 3: Honey engineers something here.

1657
01:25:42,587 --> 01:25:48,387
Speaker 2: Brian Robick rolls it across towby strike. Honey might just

1658
01:25:48,547 --> 01:25:49,947
Speaker 2: have warning for Sunderland.

1659
01:25:51,587 --> 01:25:54,867
Speaker 3: Shensteen Telby with his first Sunderland girl.

1660
01:25:57,147 --> 01:26:01,027
Speaker 30: On a season in which they've surprised so many, they

1661
01:26:01,107 --> 01:26:01,787
Speaker 30: might just be.

1662
01:26:01,907 --> 01:26:02,667
Speaker 2: Doing it again.

1663
01:26:03,547 --> 01:26:05,467
Speaker 3: The Lake goal handing him at two one, where they

1664
01:26:05,507 --> 01:26:07,787
Speaker 3: now move up to second on the Premier League table.

1665
01:26:07,907 --> 01:26:11,547
Speaker 3: Brentford handing Liverpool their fourth straight league loss.

1666
01:26:12,507 --> 01:26:17,547
Speaker 31: Big moment for Brentford and Igor Chiago puts them three

1667
01:26:17,627 --> 01:26:22,547
Speaker 31: one up against the champions and this could bear seven

1668
01:26:22,667 --> 01:26:26,547
Speaker 31: or night for the Piasa Brentford for Liverpool it's won

1669
01:26:26,587 --> 01:26:28,627
Speaker 31: at the moment of misery three to.

1670
01:26:28,747 --> 01:26:31,867
Speaker 3: The final score to the A League. AUCKLANDFC gotta win

1671
01:26:32,027 --> 01:26:35,107
Speaker 3: on the ledger well Wistern Sydney had given the ball

1672
01:26:35,147 --> 01:26:36,547
Speaker 3: away again three in a row.

1673
01:26:37,347 --> 01:26:42,547
Speaker 2: And Jessey Randall slots home the opening goal of Auckland

1674
01:26:42,667 --> 01:26:50,627
Speaker 2: f C season. Randall writes his name in the history book.

1675
01:26:51,227 --> 01:26:53,187
Speaker 3: The goal was the defriends who has won nil over

1676
01:26:53,307 --> 01:26:56,867
Speaker 3: Western Sydney. It's the rugby league. In the Rugby League

1677
01:26:56,947 --> 01:26:59,347
Speaker 3: Ashes the first Test has been a romp for the

1678
01:26:59,467 --> 01:27:00,907
Speaker 3: Kangaroos wash.

1679
01:27:01,747 --> 01:27:05,707
Speaker 2: Shiva sucky to really put the dagger to a great

1680
01:27:05,787 --> 01:27:14,427
Speaker 2: hosts your res loss England a big trust.

1681
01:27:15,747 --> 01:27:19,027
Speaker 3: By their versus rivals twenty six sixth of the final

1682
01:27:19,147 --> 01:27:20,587
Speaker 3: score and that one it did end up being on

1683
01:27:20,707 --> 01:27:23,027
Speaker 3: Sky Sport as well. They bought the rights very very late,

1684
01:27:23,107 --> 01:27:24,667
Speaker 3: and I mentioned yesterday I was on in our old

1685
01:27:24,707 --> 01:27:28,027
Speaker 3: dot com. Sky apparently did a deal late yesterday so

1686
01:27:28,067 --> 01:27:29,227
Speaker 3: it was on there and I think the rest of

1687
01:27:29,267 --> 01:27:31,707
Speaker 3: the series will be as well as convincing. We're the

1688
01:27:31,827 --> 01:27:33,507
Speaker 3: Wallabies against Japan.

1689
01:27:33,267 --> 01:27:37,427
Speaker 31: Though unsurprising reminder from the referee to Japan about their

1690
01:27:37,467 --> 01:27:38,307
Speaker 31: disciplined turns.

1691
01:27:38,387 --> 01:27:40,707
Speaker 2: Wanted to try and get his hands on that.

1692
01:27:40,827 --> 01:27:42,667
Speaker 20: But as they competed at the line out, there had

1693
01:27:42,707 --> 01:27:45,627
Speaker 20: nowhere on the ground to Scotland amension, and there is

1694
01:27:45,747 --> 01:27:47,987
Speaker 20: that ementsion, and there is the score.

1695
01:27:48,707 --> 01:27:49,587
Speaker 2: It's tritime.

1696
01:27:49,667 --> 01:27:52,827
Speaker 3: Australia wasn't overly impressive, was it? Nineteen fifteen? They won

1697
01:27:52,907 --> 01:27:56,107
Speaker 3: in Tokyo and the Toronto Blue Jay stunned the Dodgers

1698
01:27:56,187 --> 01:27:58,667
Speaker 3: to take a one new lead in Baseball's World Series.

1699
01:27:58,827 --> 01:28:12,227
Speaker 2: All the shix to t great sofields go.

1700
01:28:12,547 --> 01:28:18,507
Speaker 1: Churches, indeed blowing open with a benchhip branch slab analyzing

1701
01:28:18,627 --> 01:28:22,347
Speaker 1: every view from every angle in the sporting world weekends

1702
01:28:22,427 --> 01:28:25,307
Speaker 1: for its talk.

1703
01:28:26,067 --> 01:28:27,667
Speaker 3: It's one all in the middle of the fourth in

1704
01:28:27,787 --> 01:28:31,707
Speaker 3: Game two. Incidentally, England have lost another one. In the cricket.

1705
01:28:31,787 --> 01:28:35,907
Speaker 3: They are now five for two, having lost both of

1706
01:28:36,187 --> 01:28:39,347
Speaker 3: their openers in quick succession. Ducket has gone in fact,

1707
01:28:39,427 --> 01:28:43,267
Speaker 3: make that three. Joe Root's gone for two off the

1708
01:28:43,347 --> 01:28:46,227
Speaker 3: bowlinger Zach Folks, who has two for the over. England

1709
01:28:46,467 --> 01:28:51,507
Speaker 3: five for three in Mount Monganui after two over's disastrous

1710
01:28:51,587 --> 01:28:56,027
Speaker 3: start for the tourists to this one day series. Will

1711
01:28:56,067 --> 01:28:58,267
Speaker 3: keep an eye on that. They might even lose a

1712
01:28:58,307 --> 01:29:00,707
Speaker 3: few more. We will see let's take it though to

1713
01:29:00,827 --> 01:29:04,427
Speaker 3: the scenes yesterday afternoon at Apollo Project Stadium in Christchurch,

1714
01:29:06,547 --> 01:29:09,387
Speaker 3: and there's Todd Kristin to.

1715
01:29:09,387 --> 01:29:17,187
Speaker 2: The Northern stance, Apollo Chaplet Channbury into their tenure and

1716
01:29:17,347 --> 01:29:20,307
Speaker 2: Apollo Project Stadium as champion.

1717
01:29:21,427 --> 01:29:25,827
Speaker 3: Indeed they do with their victory over Otago yesterday afternoon.

1718
01:29:25,987 --> 01:29:30,307
Speaker 3: The Canterbury Rugby CEO is Tony Small. He joins us now,

1719
01:29:30,467 --> 01:29:31,427
Speaker 3: Tony good afternoon.

1720
01:29:32,027 --> 01:29:35,387
Speaker 11: Yeah, good afternoon, Eli, wonderful day here in christ Church.

1721
01:29:35,507 --> 01:29:37,707
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure the celebrations have been in full swing

1722
01:29:37,987 --> 01:29:41,267
Speaker 3: as well after what was a pretty special occasion yesterday too.

1723
01:29:42,347 --> 01:29:42,547
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1724
01:29:42,627 --> 01:29:45,147
Speaker 30: Ye, it was a reasonably late night later for some

1725
01:29:45,387 --> 01:29:47,987
Speaker 30: than me, but I'm sure they'll go on for a

1726
01:29:48,067 --> 01:29:48,827
Speaker 30: couple of days yet.

1727
01:29:48,987 --> 01:29:53,787
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty special occasion. Otago obviously the Southern Classic, the rivalry,

1728
01:29:54,227 --> 01:29:57,667
Speaker 3: but the match delivered as well for a sold out crowd.

1729
01:29:58,667 --> 01:30:02,387
Speaker 30: Yeah, I mean, can't underestimate that crowd of blue and

1730
01:30:02,427 --> 01:30:05,707
Speaker 30: gold and red and black. It was just a magnificent occasion.

1731
01:30:06,427 --> 01:30:10,427
Speaker 30: And the two teams have played a pretty a pretty

1732
01:30:10,467 --> 01:30:13,387
Speaker 30: crowd for end the start of rugby all year, so

1733
01:30:13,667 --> 01:30:14,827
Speaker 30: couldn't have had a better final.

1734
01:30:14,987 --> 01:30:16,987
Speaker 3: It was right in the balance. Of course later on,

1735
01:30:17,187 --> 01:30:19,827
Speaker 3: how you as a CEO feeling with the game and

1736
01:30:19,867 --> 01:30:20,307
Speaker 3: the balance.

1737
01:30:21,267 --> 01:30:24,427
Speaker 30: I'm generally pretty good, but I knew yesterday it would

1738
01:30:24,467 --> 01:30:26,427
Speaker 30: be a little bit different, so it spend a bit

1739
01:30:26,467 --> 01:30:27,667
Speaker 30: of time pacing up and down.

1740
01:30:28,147 --> 01:30:30,587
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you bottle that? I guess for the

1741
01:30:30,707 --> 01:30:34,067
Speaker 3: NPC what we saw yesterday, eighteen thousand fans and the

1742
01:30:34,147 --> 01:30:37,467
Speaker 3: Sunshine and christ Church supporting. They had seen plenty of

1743
01:30:37,547 --> 01:30:40,507
Speaker 3: passion in the stands as well. How do we bottle

1744
01:30:40,587 --> 01:30:43,947
Speaker 3: that as a rugby country for future NPCs?

1745
01:30:44,827 --> 01:30:49,147
Speaker 30: Yeah, well, I think the thing is the NBC's built

1746
01:30:49,187 --> 01:30:52,027
Speaker 30: on those rivalries, doesn't it, and they stand the test

1747
01:30:52,107 --> 01:30:55,147
Speaker 30: of time. We've been going over one hundred years and

1748
01:30:55,267 --> 01:30:58,987
Speaker 30: those passions still exist. So it's up to us as

1749
01:30:59,067 --> 01:31:02,827
Speaker 30: leaders in our game to make sure we keep that alive.

1750
01:31:03,267 --> 01:31:04,387
Speaker 11: What was the magic bullet?

1751
01:31:04,467 --> 01:31:04,747
Speaker 19: You just?

1752
01:31:04,947 --> 01:31:05,427
Speaker 10: I think.

1753
01:31:06,827 --> 01:31:11,387
Speaker 30: What can we What our organization has prided itself on

1754
01:31:11,467 --> 01:31:13,707
Speaker 30: this year is trying to connect back to those fans

1755
01:31:13,827 --> 01:31:15,707
Speaker 30: to make sure that we're at the part of the game.

1756
01:31:16,347 --> 01:31:19,747
Speaker 30: And yeah, it's just an awesome occasion yesterday.

1757
01:31:20,107 --> 01:31:22,547
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking to Itiger as well, they talked about connection.

1758
01:31:22,587 --> 01:31:24,307
Speaker 3: Do you feel that maybe it's been lost over the

1759
01:31:24,387 --> 01:31:27,107
Speaker 3: last few years and now it's important to restore that

1760
01:31:27,267 --> 01:31:28,107
Speaker 3: that local connection.

1761
01:31:28,907 --> 01:31:32,107
Speaker 30: I think the break off COVID definitely put it into

1762
01:31:32,187 --> 01:31:36,467
Speaker 30: that and it is if you've watched the NBC for

1763
01:31:36,547 --> 01:31:38,427
Speaker 30: the last couple of years, all of the unions have

1764
01:31:38,587 --> 01:31:41,067
Speaker 30: made it a focus of trying to connect, making sure

1765
01:31:41,147 --> 01:31:45,227
Speaker 30: that connection is strong. So it has It's not by accident.

1766
01:31:45,307 --> 01:31:48,507
Speaker 30: It's been deliberate and we've just got to keep doing it.

1767
01:31:48,987 --> 01:31:50,747
Speaker 3: You would have seen Tom Christy up close for it

1768
01:31:50,787 --> 01:31:52,507
Speaker 3: for a number of years. Now what does he mean

1769
01:31:52,547 --> 01:31:54,907
Speaker 3: to Canterbury And look he put in a heck of

1770
01:31:54,987 --> 01:31:57,547
Speaker 3: a performance again yesterday and that final and his last

1771
01:31:57,627 --> 01:31:59,467
Speaker 3: game for the side before he heads up to the

1772
01:31:59,507 --> 01:32:00,227
Speaker 3: Northern Hemisphere.

1773
01:32:01,387 --> 01:32:03,067
Speaker 11: Yeah, like pretty special for Tom.

1774
01:32:03,227 --> 01:32:05,947
Speaker 30: We started off with Cullen as our captain who only

1775
01:32:06,027 --> 01:32:11,267
Speaker 30: last one game I think maybe two, maybe even only one.

1776
01:32:11,427 --> 01:32:16,187
Speaker 30: But Tom stepped up and when he said about his

1777
01:32:16,547 --> 01:32:19,267
Speaker 30: journey for this season, it was so important and you

1778
01:32:19,347 --> 01:32:22,867
Speaker 30: could tell to him just giving back to Canterbury and

1779
01:32:22,987 --> 01:32:25,707
Speaker 30: then with it being there last season at that stadium,

1780
01:32:25,987 --> 01:32:29,947
Speaker 30: it just meant everything to him personally and he watch

1781
01:32:30,027 --> 01:32:33,507
Speaker 30: his performances over the whole season being absolutely outstanding and

1782
01:32:33,587 --> 01:32:34,227
Speaker 30: a great leader.

1783
01:32:34,827 --> 01:32:38,267
Speaker 11: The boys love it and I couldn't ask for more

1784
01:32:38,307 --> 01:32:38,587
Speaker 11: from the.

1785
01:32:38,587 --> 01:32:42,027
Speaker 3: Man mentioned that stadium obviously a temporary one, but for

1786
01:32:42,307 --> 01:32:45,387
Speaker 3: players like Tom Christy and you know most of all

1787
01:32:45,507 --> 01:32:49,587
Speaker 3: this generation really it's all the Nolan Apollo Projects stadium.

1788
01:32:49,667 --> 01:32:52,947
Speaker 3: So how important was it to sign off with a

1789
01:32:53,067 --> 01:32:53,747
Speaker 3: victory like that?

1790
01:32:54,827 --> 01:32:57,827
Speaker 30: Well, the yes, most of those players have only played

1791
01:32:57,827 --> 01:33:00,027
Speaker 30: at that stadium, so they know nothing different.

1792
01:33:00,067 --> 01:33:01,187
Speaker 11: For Canterbury.

1793
01:33:02,827 --> 01:33:06,467
Speaker 30: We set out in theme and the organization's theme that

1794
01:33:06,587 --> 01:33:09,227
Speaker 30: this year was all about signing off at Apollo as

1795
01:33:09,267 --> 01:33:11,947
Speaker 30: we head to one New Zealand stadium. So it became

1796
01:33:12,027 --> 01:33:15,027
Speaker 30: a key part of the whole campaign and for ourselves

1797
01:33:15,067 --> 01:33:18,507
Speaker 30: as an organization it served us well. But boy, we

1798
01:33:18,587 --> 01:33:20,667
Speaker 30: are looking forward to what the new one will bring.

1799
01:33:20,787 --> 01:33:22,387
Speaker 3: I was going to say, will will you miss it?

1800
01:33:22,507 --> 01:33:24,707
Speaker 3: Or you quite content to be heading to that new

1801
01:33:24,747 --> 01:33:26,947
Speaker 3: stadium which every time I'm in christ Church looks like

1802
01:33:27,027 --> 01:33:29,187
Speaker 3: it's coming along very very nicely.

1803
01:33:29,987 --> 01:33:32,307
Speaker 30: Yeah, it has been in a couple of times to

1804
01:33:32,347 --> 01:33:35,227
Speaker 30: have a lock and it's looking magnificent. But I can't

1805
01:33:35,747 --> 01:33:39,507
Speaker 30: underestimate how good that stadium has been, particularly for NPC.

1806
01:33:40,427 --> 01:33:43,867
Speaker 30: The fact of if you remember Lancaster Park, it was.

1807
01:33:44,587 --> 01:33:46,587
Speaker 30: It was one of the old round stadiums who played

1808
01:33:46,587 --> 01:33:52,147
Speaker 30: cricket in it. This is a rectangular stadium. The team

1809
01:33:52,267 --> 01:33:55,187
Speaker 30: is up close to our closest fans and they both

1810
01:33:55,227 --> 01:33:58,027
Speaker 30: sides love it. The fans like being close to the

1811
01:33:58,107 --> 01:34:00,547
Speaker 30: action and the players love being close to the to

1812
01:34:00,667 --> 01:34:02,747
Speaker 30: the fans. So it's actually served us really well. And

1813
01:34:03,227 --> 01:34:05,107
Speaker 30: if you look at the design of the new stadium,

1814
01:34:05,187 --> 01:34:09,387
Speaker 30: it's it's for rugby and football and all the other

1815
01:34:10,187 --> 01:34:11,267
Speaker 30: rectangular codes.

1816
01:34:11,667 --> 01:34:13,587
Speaker 11: There will be no cricket in it, so it's going

1817
01:34:13,627 --> 01:34:14,427
Speaker 11: to be magnificent.

1818
01:34:14,667 --> 01:34:17,467
Speaker 3: How will you approach that new stadium as an MPC side,

1819
01:34:17,467 --> 01:34:21,627
Speaker 3: because it is bigger than a polyprojects stadium, the more capacity,

1820
01:34:22,107 --> 01:34:24,787
Speaker 3: how do you approach that? I guess given the challenges

1821
01:34:24,787 --> 01:34:27,067
Speaker 3: around getting in PC crowds, although used today was a

1822
01:34:27,147 --> 01:34:29,347
Speaker 3: fantastic crowd obviously, have you thought about how you might

1823
01:34:29,347 --> 01:34:29,787
Speaker 3: approach that.

1824
01:34:30,467 --> 01:34:32,947
Speaker 30: You know, we definitely have and we talked about it

1825
01:34:33,027 --> 01:34:34,627
Speaker 30: at the game with all the people who are there.

1826
01:34:34,987 --> 01:34:40,427
Speaker 30: We will have an accessible, an accessible entry point into

1827
01:34:40,507 --> 01:34:43,987
Speaker 30: that stadium and our plan is to encourage and join

1828
01:34:44,107 --> 01:34:46,907
Speaker 30: as much of the community as we can so that.

1829
01:34:47,027 --> 01:34:50,627
Speaker 11: Absolutely we know it's sitting there and it's coming at us.

1830
01:34:50,707 --> 01:34:53,547
Speaker 30: It is bigger, but we have a deliberate pain to

1831
01:34:53,667 --> 01:34:55,947
Speaker 30: make sure that anyone who wants to come to this

1832
01:34:56,147 --> 01:34:59,387
Speaker 30: stadium and be a part of that action will encourage it.

1833
01:34:59,947 --> 01:35:03,067
Speaker 3: Marty Burke's final game is Canterbury coach as well before

1834
01:35:03,107 --> 01:35:06,147
Speaker 3: he takes on other challenges. What's he been able to

1835
01:35:06,227 --> 01:35:09,187
Speaker 3: do with this very young team? And you know MPC

1836
01:35:09,467 --> 01:35:12,267
Speaker 3: is often in your players come in and change every year,

1837
01:35:12,427 --> 01:35:15,627
Speaker 3: you have to change and remold the team. How important

1838
01:35:15,667 --> 01:35:19,387
Speaker 3: has he been in connecting these players together?

1839
01:35:20,387 --> 01:35:23,547
Speaker 30: Yeah, Marty, Marty and his wife Kate just been magnificent

1840
01:35:24,147 --> 01:35:26,427
Speaker 30: supporters of the game, is what I would say.

1841
01:35:28,267 --> 01:35:28,747
Speaker 11: Marty has.

1842
01:35:28,907 --> 01:35:31,747
Speaker 30: Mardy shares similar views to myself. The game is about

1843
01:35:31,867 --> 01:35:35,547
Speaker 30: our community and making sure we build that connection to it.

1844
01:35:36,067 --> 01:35:39,507
Speaker 11: So it was quite a perfect alignment. But he has

1845
01:35:39,547 --> 01:35:41,147
Speaker 11: spent his time in the community game.

1846
01:35:41,187 --> 01:35:44,347
Speaker 30: He's out there with the club coaches, making himself visible

1847
01:35:44,787 --> 01:35:47,827
Speaker 30: and that's that's pretty important in the job that I

1848
01:35:47,987 --> 01:35:50,667
Speaker 30: need to do, which has encouraged people into the game.

1849
01:35:50,827 --> 01:35:52,507
Speaker 11: We need to be can be.

1850
01:35:52,587 --> 01:35:55,427
Speaker 30: Rugby needs to be seen out there and so Marty's

1851
01:35:55,427 --> 01:35:58,587
Speaker 30: brought that not only to the rugby community but also

1852
01:35:58,667 --> 01:35:59,307
Speaker 30: to the fans.

1853
01:35:59,867 --> 01:36:01,467
Speaker 11: So just been magnificent.

1854
01:36:01,907 --> 01:36:04,307
Speaker 3: How will you go about replacing him for twenty twenty

1855
01:36:04,347 --> 01:36:06,467
Speaker 3: six and beyond it.

1856
01:36:06,587 --> 01:36:08,267
Speaker 11: We're undertaking the reviews.

1857
01:36:08,307 --> 01:36:10,747
Speaker 30: They'll start next week and then we will be formerly

1858
01:36:11,347 --> 01:36:15,187
Speaker 30: out in the market seeking applications.

1859
01:36:14,547 --> 01:36:15,187
Speaker 11: For a head coach.

1860
01:36:15,947 --> 01:36:19,107
Speaker 3: Tony Smail Canniby CEO with us. Tony, look, let's talk

1861
01:36:19,147 --> 01:36:23,347
Speaker 3: the important question the mascot race, Larry the Lamb. That

1862
01:36:23,547 --> 01:36:25,907
Speaker 3: was quite the effort from your mascot to win that

1863
01:36:25,987 --> 01:36:29,267
Speaker 3: mascot race yesterday. You must be pretty proud to add

1864
01:36:29,307 --> 01:36:30,787
Speaker 3: that title to the province as well.

1865
01:36:31,347 --> 01:36:34,067
Speaker 11: Absolutely, we haven't. We haven't performed very well in that

1866
01:36:34,227 --> 01:36:36,587
Speaker 11: in recent years. But just magnificent.

1867
01:36:37,307 --> 01:36:40,747
Speaker 3: I'm hearing all sorts of rumors. I'm hearing rumors Tony

1868
01:36:40,747 --> 01:36:42,907
Speaker 3: about who might have been in that suit. Can you

1869
01:36:43,227 --> 01:36:45,947
Speaker 3: confirm clarify anything for us this afternoon.

1870
01:36:46,707 --> 01:36:48,387
Speaker 11: Well, just that the man had a bit of pace,

1871
01:36:49,067 --> 01:36:50,027
Speaker 11: It's all I can say.

1872
01:36:50,627 --> 01:36:53,947
Speaker 3: He may have represented New Zealand maybe is that? Is

1873
01:36:53,987 --> 01:36:57,547
Speaker 3: that possibly to be truthful?

1874
01:36:57,667 --> 01:37:01,267
Speaker 30: I actually don't know who it was. But what was

1875
01:37:01,547 --> 01:37:04,587
Speaker 30: very clear was they were they were blessed with some speed.

1876
01:37:04,867 --> 01:37:08,787
Speaker 3: They certainly were well. Tony and Joy the celebrations and congratulations.

1877
01:37:08,827 --> 01:37:11,147
Speaker 3: Are NPC champions for twenty twenty five.

1878
01:37:11,227 --> 01:37:12,507
Speaker 11: Well done, Thank you.

1879
01:37:13,187 --> 01:37:15,627
Speaker 3: Tony Smile joining us on news Talk zeb You might've

1880
01:37:15,627 --> 01:37:18,507
Speaker 3: heard last hour James mconiy sugues. Think it was Tiarn Welpdon,

1881
01:37:18,667 --> 01:37:20,707
Speaker 3: the New Zealand sprinter in that suit. If you did

1882
01:37:20,787 --> 01:37:24,387
Speaker 3: see the mascot race yesterday, Basically Larry the Lamb, the

1883
01:37:24,467 --> 01:37:28,587
Speaker 3: Canterbury mascot, is about ten meters behind early on and

1884
01:37:28,707 --> 01:37:31,627
Speaker 3: then just surges to the front and wins it with

1885
01:37:31,827 --> 01:37:34,547
Speaker 3: about no one within thirty meters of them. Maybe a

1886
01:37:34,587 --> 01:37:38,747
Speaker 3: little bit more could be t r Weldon. If it

1887
01:37:38,907 --> 01:37:42,987
Speaker 3: was Tirn, we saw what a if of that is.

1888
01:37:43,027 --> 01:37:45,227
Speaker 3: But I'm not sure they should be substituting next year.

1889
01:37:45,227 --> 01:37:47,467
Speaker 3: We're gonna have someone's gonna try and get Usain Bolt down,

1890
01:37:47,507 --> 01:37:52,387
Speaker 3: aren't they. Next year one of the big unions might

1891
01:37:52,467 --> 01:37:55,027
Speaker 3: be Auckland, maybe North Harbor. There'll be a way they

1892
01:37:55,067 --> 01:37:57,867
Speaker 3: could get a win. Just get Usain Bolt into the

1893
01:37:58,627 --> 01:38:02,827
Speaker 3: mascot for the mascot race. Good fun. Nonetheless, let's go

1894
01:38:02,867 --> 01:38:06,787
Speaker 3: to the lines afternoon. Graham good a here he is,

1895
01:38:06,907 --> 01:38:08,627
Speaker 3: I'm good. We talked to you today. Did you enjoy

1896
01:38:08,707 --> 01:38:09,227
Speaker 3: the occasion.

1897
01:38:10,267 --> 01:38:13,627
Speaker 32: I loved it. Like Tony Smail said, it was a

1898
01:38:14,827 --> 01:38:17,787
Speaker 32: very very special afternoon one of my I've seen a

1899
01:38:17,827 --> 01:38:20,627
Speaker 32: lot of great rugby and a lot of great results,

1900
01:38:20,707 --> 01:38:23,827
Speaker 32: you know, but that that was up there with the

1901
01:38:23,907 --> 01:38:26,667
Speaker 32: best of them, just in terms of the fact afternoon

1902
01:38:26,787 --> 01:38:30,947
Speaker 32: rugby Canterbury at Targo, red and Black versus Blue and Gold,

1903
01:38:31,027 --> 01:38:36,547
Speaker 32: and our boys really dug deep. And I think Tom Christie,

1904
01:38:37,507 --> 01:38:41,387
Speaker 32: not single handedly, but he certainly played a huge role

1905
01:38:41,427 --> 01:38:44,027
Speaker 32: in getting us over the line. And so pleased. I'm

1906
01:38:44,107 --> 01:38:47,267
Speaker 32: and Marty Burke and we say, Zach Gallagher he's heading

1907
01:38:47,307 --> 01:38:50,587
Speaker 32: the overs with France. He's played a great season and

1908
01:38:50,707 --> 01:38:56,147
Speaker 32: Manassa Matli possibly too, He's played some of his best rugby.

1909
01:38:56,307 --> 01:38:59,827
Speaker 32: So I'm just really delighted he got the win. Elliott, yep, yeah,

1910
01:38:59,867 --> 01:39:01,827
Speaker 32: I think a tough opposition.

1911
01:39:02,107 --> 01:39:07,347
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, Look and you mentioned Zach Dellagher. I'm disappointed

1912
01:39:07,387 --> 01:39:09,587
Speaker 3: he's going because I think moving to Blindside it was

1913
01:39:09,667 --> 01:39:12,067
Speaker 3: by accident with all the injuries, but it's been kind

1914
01:39:12,067 --> 01:39:12,867
Speaker 3: of the making of him.

1915
01:39:13,987 --> 01:39:16,947
Speaker 32: Well, yeah, I sort of came by accident and Dominic

1916
01:39:17,027 --> 01:39:19,187
Speaker 32: Gardner then when he came back went to number eight,

1917
01:39:19,267 --> 01:39:21,987
Speaker 32: and I think he's flourished and that with us and

1918
01:39:22,107 --> 01:39:25,947
Speaker 32: told you so. Yeah, it's a real shame because I

1919
01:39:25,987 --> 01:39:28,707
Speaker 32: think Zach played I think some of his besh rugby

1920
01:39:28,827 --> 01:39:31,987
Speaker 32: played very well before for Canterbury and at times with

1921
01:39:32,027 --> 01:39:35,387
Speaker 32: the Crusaders and the Hurricanes earlier this year. But yeah,

1922
01:39:35,387 --> 01:39:38,307
Speaker 32: I think it was his best season. And hope he

1923
01:39:38,427 --> 01:39:41,427
Speaker 32: comes back to the only young man and and he's

1924
01:39:41,427 --> 01:39:41,987
Speaker 32: playing great.

1925
01:39:42,147 --> 01:39:44,627
Speaker 3: Yeah, he certainly is. Graham nice hear from you. Enjoy

1926
01:39:44,667 --> 01:39:49,227
Speaker 3: the celebrations as you claim the NPC title. Aiden with

1927
01:39:49,347 --> 01:39:52,547
Speaker 3: this from Dunedin driving home to Duneda after pilgrimage for

1928
01:39:52,627 --> 01:39:54,427
Speaker 3: the final. A great final to close out one of

1929
01:39:54,467 --> 01:39:57,387
Speaker 3: the best NPCs for some time. Otago played as to

1930
01:39:57,427 --> 01:39:59,987
Speaker 3: have all seasons, tack early lead but couldn't take advantage

1931
01:40:00,307 --> 01:40:02,707
Speaker 3: of a thirteen to fifteen point in Northwestern against the

1932
01:40:02,747 --> 01:40:05,027
Speaker 3: Canterbury team who played as they have all season and

1933
01:40:05,147 --> 01:40:08,747
Speaker 3: defended resolutely. Then Candy produced a clinical eighteen minutes to

1934
01:40:08,907 --> 01:40:12,067
Speaker 3: round kick off the second half and effectively close out

1935
01:40:12,107 --> 01:40:14,987
Speaker 3: the game. I'm excited for the super NPC seasons and

1936
01:40:15,067 --> 01:40:17,307
Speaker 3: twenty six given the emergence of so many young players.

1937
01:40:17,627 --> 01:40:19,787
Speaker 3: Look forward to seeing several push for World Cup jerseys.

1938
01:40:20,387 --> 01:40:22,347
Speaker 3: And twenty seven look forward to the battle between the

1939
01:40:22,387 --> 01:40:25,107
Speaker 3: Warriors and Otago to claim the next year is our

1940
01:40:25,427 --> 01:40:28,267
Speaker 3: slogan have the Warrior's trademark that thank you very much,

1941
01:40:28,267 --> 01:40:30,547
Speaker 3: aid and Save travels back to Toned and here it

1942
01:40:30,587 --> 01:40:32,987
Speaker 3: was a special occasion, John, with us though sorry but

1943
01:40:33,107 --> 01:40:34,787
Speaker 3: not sure what game you and James are watching. The

1944
01:40:34,867 --> 01:40:38,027
Speaker 3: NPC final didn't live up to expectations, Candory playing their

1945
01:40:38,067 --> 01:40:41,067
Speaker 3: boring pick and go rugby style and Otaga moving away

1946
01:40:41,067 --> 01:40:43,587
Speaker 3: from what got them there and poor decision making like

1947
01:40:43,707 --> 01:40:46,587
Speaker 3: kicking possession away against the wind. The Semis were a

1948
01:40:46,627 --> 01:40:49,947
Speaker 3: better spectacle. Cheers John, We will take a break here

1949
01:40:49,987 --> 01:40:52,467
Speaker 3: on news Dog ZB, come back and talk a league.

1950
01:40:52,587 --> 01:40:55,027
Speaker 3: On the other side, it is twenty four after two.

1951
01:40:55,827 --> 01:40:57,667
Speaker 22: It's more than just a game.

1952
01:40:58,027 --> 01:41:02,067
Speaker 1: Weekends for it with GJ Gunos, New Zealand's most trusted

1953
01:41:02,107 --> 01:41:03,547
Speaker 1: home builder news Dogs MB.

1954
01:41:04,227 --> 01:41:07,267
Speaker 3: Another one gone at bay Oval, j Bethel's gone for

1955
01:41:07,427 --> 01:41:11,667
Speaker 3: two bowl by Folks and absolute peachave delivery from Zach Folks,

1956
01:41:11,947 --> 01:41:15,227
Speaker 3: who now has the figures of three for three in

1957
01:41:15,467 --> 01:41:20,467
Speaker 3: his third over quite remarkable England ten for four in

1958
01:41:20,627 --> 01:41:23,747
Speaker 3: the sixth over Keep a close eye on that for

1959
01:41:23,947 --> 01:41:26,467
Speaker 3: you over the next week, while black Caps having a

1960
01:41:26,547 --> 01:41:30,107
Speaker 3: storm at Bay Oval in the opening one day, the

1961
01:41:30,147 --> 01:41:32,947
Speaker 3: Wellington Phoenix back home for the first time this season

1962
01:41:33,507 --> 01:41:36,427
Speaker 3: in the A League. They have the Brisbane Raw kickoff

1963
01:41:36,547 --> 01:41:39,867
Speaker 3: just over half an hour away at sky Stadium. Their

1964
01:41:39,947 --> 01:41:43,667
Speaker 3: captain is Alex Ruferm and he joins me now on

1965
01:41:43,827 --> 01:41:47,347
Speaker 3: news Talk ZEBB. Alex, how thrilled are you to be

1966
01:41:48,027 --> 01:41:50,427
Speaker 3: back at home in front of your home fans?

1967
01:41:51,107 --> 01:41:54,427
Speaker 10: Of course, Look, we're really excited and looking forward to

1968
01:41:54,547 --> 01:41:54,827
Speaker 10: the game.

1969
01:41:55,347 --> 01:41:57,827
Speaker 3: How much is on the mind that you want to

1970
01:41:57,947 --> 01:42:00,627
Speaker 3: repay the faith of the fans. So what was a

1971
01:42:00,747 --> 01:42:03,387
Speaker 3: tough season at home last year? Just the one win?

1972
01:42:03,947 --> 01:42:06,067
Speaker 10: Yeah, look coming, we've we're spoken about d and we

1973
01:42:06,107 --> 01:42:10,067
Speaker 10: want to make sky Stadium our fortress again and like

1974
01:42:10,147 --> 01:42:12,867
Speaker 10: you said, repay, repay the face that the fans have

1975
01:42:12,947 --> 01:42:14,947
Speaker 10: shown us and give them something to smile about.

1976
01:42:15,147 --> 01:42:17,187
Speaker 3: How do you go about rebuilding that?

1977
01:42:17,907 --> 01:42:20,747
Speaker 10: I think we need to make sure that we make

1978
01:42:20,827 --> 01:42:24,947
Speaker 10: it a fortress and make it really really tough, tough

1979
01:42:24,987 --> 01:42:26,947
Speaker 10: for teams to come here and then play and attacking

1980
01:42:27,067 --> 01:42:30,067
Speaker 10: aggressive style of football, which we have been doing. And

1981
01:42:30,187 --> 01:42:32,067
Speaker 10: I think you know, the last game in pers showed

1982
01:42:32,107 --> 01:42:34,347
Speaker 10: that note all that we started slowly and we were

1983
01:42:34,387 --> 01:42:36,227
Speaker 10: turned all down. The boys never gave up and we

1984
01:42:36,347 --> 01:42:38,907
Speaker 10: fought back some tonal and then got a decent result.

1985
01:42:39,267 --> 01:42:42,227
Speaker 3: How pleased were you with that character to earn a

1986
01:42:42,307 --> 01:42:44,467
Speaker 3: point last week, as you say, turnle down to get

1987
01:42:44,827 --> 01:42:45,667
Speaker 3: a too two drawl?

1988
01:42:47,427 --> 01:42:47,547
Speaker 11: Oh?

1989
01:42:47,627 --> 01:42:50,707
Speaker 10: Look, extremely happy. Anyone who's done that trip knows how

1990
01:42:50,747 --> 01:42:52,947
Speaker 10: difficult it is, and you know they're a good team.

1991
01:42:53,427 --> 01:42:57,027
Speaker 10: Obviously there's time difference, but look, we didn't worry about

1992
01:42:57,027 --> 01:42:59,107
Speaker 10: those things that we couldn't control. We worried about ourselves

1993
01:42:59,147 --> 01:43:01,667
Speaker 10: and like I said, really really happy and I'm really

1994
01:43:01,707 --> 01:43:03,467
Speaker 10: proud of the team with the way we fought back

1995
01:43:03,507 --> 01:43:05,027
Speaker 10: and got back into the game.

1996
01:43:05,467 --> 01:43:07,907
Speaker 3: As captain of this team, has obviously been some changes,

1997
01:43:07,987 --> 01:43:10,547
Speaker 3: as there are after grevery a league season, but changes,

1998
01:43:11,067 --> 01:43:13,667
Speaker 3: you know, imports, players coming in from different cultures. How

1999
01:43:13,747 --> 01:43:15,467
Speaker 3: much leadership do you have to show at the start

2000
01:43:15,507 --> 01:43:18,467
Speaker 3: of each season to get these players and assimilate them

2001
01:43:18,507 --> 01:43:19,987
Speaker 3: into the Phoenix environment.

2002
01:43:21,787 --> 01:43:24,147
Speaker 10: Oh, look, we've got a very welcoming environment.

2003
01:43:24,267 --> 01:43:24,387
Speaker 3: You know.

2004
01:43:24,507 --> 01:43:26,347
Speaker 10: Obviously when they come in, you sit them down, you

2005
01:43:26,747 --> 01:43:28,787
Speaker 10: talk to them, You need to know them a little bit,

2006
01:43:29,467 --> 01:43:32,347
Speaker 10: and obviously throughout pre season you learn about them more

2007
01:43:32,427 --> 01:43:34,547
Speaker 10: and you you know, start to build connections and then

2008
01:43:34,987 --> 01:43:37,347
Speaker 10: from there it's just about showing them every day and

2009
01:43:37,867 --> 01:43:40,627
Speaker 10: making sure they feel comfortable to express themselves on and

2010
01:43:40,707 --> 01:43:41,187
Speaker 10: off the field.

2011
01:43:41,747 --> 01:43:44,227
Speaker 3: And obviously got some some quality imports. We saw that

2012
01:43:44,387 --> 01:43:47,067
Speaker 3: last week. That felt like they slotted them pretty quickly

2013
01:43:47,107 --> 01:43:47,627
Speaker 3: into the team.

2014
01:43:49,267 --> 01:43:51,147
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly. Look, that's what you want. You want your

2015
01:43:51,427 --> 01:43:54,467
Speaker 10: especially your foreign players to settle quickly and perform well.

2016
01:43:54,547 --> 01:43:57,347
Speaker 10: And all of them did that, you know, also the

2017
01:43:57,827 --> 01:44:00,227
Speaker 10: all the Kiwi players as well, and all the new

2018
01:44:00,267 --> 01:44:02,907
Speaker 10: Ozzie imports as well, they've got have come in. Everyone

2019
01:44:02,987 --> 01:44:05,667
Speaker 10: settled nicely and everyone you know, showed what they're are,

2020
01:44:05,907 --> 01:44:06,267
Speaker 10: what they can.

2021
01:44:06,787 --> 01:44:09,147
Speaker 3: What do you expect from the rule this afternoon?

2022
01:44:11,227 --> 01:44:14,347
Speaker 10: Oh look, that'll be very very aggressive. We've seen that

2023
01:44:14,427 --> 01:44:17,147
Speaker 10: they're a good team. The coach is also a good

2024
01:44:17,227 --> 01:44:19,427
Speaker 10: coach from Europe, so he's got them playing in an

2025
01:44:19,427 --> 01:44:21,507
Speaker 10: aggressive way. So we need to make sure we match

2026
01:44:21,587 --> 01:44:23,147
Speaker 10: that and then play our game.

2027
01:44:23,667 --> 01:44:25,787
Speaker 3: Do you get the sense that you know this this

2028
01:44:25,947 --> 01:44:28,507
Speaker 3: competition looks pretty even. I know we're only one and

2029
01:44:28,547 --> 01:44:31,267
Speaker 3: a bit runs through, but it feels like it's a

2030
01:44:31,347 --> 01:44:32,867
Speaker 3: pretty even competition this year.

2031
01:44:34,867 --> 01:44:36,667
Speaker 10: Yeah, it looks like you said it. It is early

2032
01:44:37,027 --> 01:44:40,667
Speaker 10: in the in the season to start obviously making comparisons

2033
01:44:40,867 --> 01:44:43,227
Speaker 10: and looking at other teams. But I do think it's

2034
01:44:43,267 --> 01:44:45,827
Speaker 10: going to be close. And I think after you know,

2035
01:44:46,347 --> 01:44:48,307
Speaker 10: first four to six games, you kind of start to

2036
01:44:48,347 --> 01:44:49,347
Speaker 10: see a.

2037
01:44:49,347 --> 01:44:49,907
Speaker 12: Little bit more.

2038
01:44:50,027 --> 01:44:51,907
Speaker 10: But at the moment, look, it looks very, very tight,

2039
01:44:52,027 --> 01:44:54,507
Speaker 10: and it's it's close and looks like it's going to

2040
01:44:54,547 --> 01:44:56,587
Speaker 10: be a tough, tough season for every team.

2041
01:44:56,947 --> 01:44:58,667
Speaker 3: We saw the team play last week with a pretty

2042
01:44:58,707 --> 01:45:01,627
Speaker 3: high defensive line. How much of a mindset change has

2043
01:45:01,707 --> 01:45:04,787
Speaker 3: that been through the preseason and last week getting used

2044
01:45:04,787 --> 01:45:05,347
Speaker 3: to that style?

2045
01:45:07,307 --> 01:45:09,307
Speaker 10: Yeah, Look, we worked on a little pre season. I

2046
01:45:09,347 --> 01:45:11,387
Speaker 10: wouldn't say it's a mindset change. I'd just say it's

2047
01:45:11,427 --> 01:45:13,107
Speaker 10: more of a tactical change. I think, you know, the

2048
01:45:13,147 --> 01:45:15,627
Speaker 10: players have adapted well to it, and you know, now

2049
01:45:15,627 --> 01:45:18,347
Speaker 10: our mindset is we need to make sure that we

2050
01:45:19,067 --> 01:45:21,387
Speaker 10: do it well, we train well during the week, and

2051
01:45:21,507 --> 01:45:24,347
Speaker 10: make sure that we we're smart enough to know when

2052
01:45:24,427 --> 01:45:24,827
Speaker 10: to do it and.

2053
01:45:24,827 --> 01:45:25,427
Speaker 12: When not to do it.

2054
01:45:26,307 --> 01:45:28,787
Speaker 10: But look, it was really positive. It did cause us

2055
01:45:28,827 --> 01:45:31,227
Speaker 10: problems at the start of the game. I think there's

2056
01:45:31,267 --> 01:45:33,667
Speaker 10: a few teething issues that you know, first game, it's

2057
01:45:33,707 --> 01:45:35,787
Speaker 10: obviously a little bit of pressure, and it took us

2058
01:45:35,827 --> 01:45:37,427
Speaker 10: time to adapt, but once we did, I thought it

2059
01:45:37,547 --> 01:45:37,787
Speaker 10: was good.

2060
01:45:38,187 --> 01:45:40,747
Speaker 3: How much does that take confidence that it is the

2061
01:45:40,867 --> 01:45:42,947
Speaker 3: right style and I guess patients that it is going

2062
01:45:43,027 --> 01:45:45,867
Speaker 3: to work and be the style that is going to

2063
01:45:45,907 --> 01:45:47,147
Speaker 3: deliver results of this team.

2064
01:45:49,107 --> 01:45:50,867
Speaker 10: Well, look, we have to believe in every player. Does

2065
01:45:51,347 --> 01:45:53,027
Speaker 10: we believe in the coach, We believe in each other,

2066
01:45:53,107 --> 01:45:56,307
Speaker 10: and that's the most important thing. These things do take time.

2067
01:45:57,387 --> 01:46:01,547
Speaker 10: It's not something that you can you know, perfect overnight

2068
01:46:01,827 --> 01:46:04,467
Speaker 10: per se. But look, like I said, we believe in

2069
01:46:04,507 --> 01:46:06,387
Speaker 10: the system, we believe in each other. We believe and

2070
01:46:06,467 --> 01:46:08,627
Speaker 10: the coach and the staff, and you know, we're in

2071
01:46:08,667 --> 01:46:10,747
Speaker 10: a positive heading, in a positive direction.

2072
01:46:10,947 --> 01:46:14,627
Speaker 3: And maintaining position comes with its rewards as well. It

2073
01:46:14,707 --> 01:46:17,867
Speaker 3: can frustrate the opposition. I think last week he had

2074
01:46:17,867 --> 01:46:20,907
Speaker 3: seventy percent position, So you know, it does have obviously

2075
01:46:21,147 --> 01:46:23,867
Speaker 3: benefits in terms of just you know, creating a little

2076
01:46:23,867 --> 01:46:26,267
Speaker 3: bit of frustrating for the team that's having to play

2077
01:46:26,347 --> 01:46:26,787
Speaker 3: up against it.

2078
01:46:28,507 --> 01:46:31,547
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly. Look, we dominated the game, you know, with

2079
01:46:31,667 --> 01:46:34,067
Speaker 10: the ball, obviously, but I think the funny thing is

2080
01:46:34,147 --> 01:46:35,987
Speaker 10: is that the first half we actually weren't that great

2081
01:46:35,987 --> 01:46:38,347
Speaker 10: with the ball, so there's still areas to improve, and

2082
01:46:38,467 --> 01:46:41,267
Speaker 10: I think once we really find out and figure out

2083
01:46:41,507 --> 01:46:43,627
Speaker 10: you know, where to hurt teams will be much more

2084
01:46:43,947 --> 01:46:45,747
Speaker 10: effective and create more chances.

2085
01:46:45,987 --> 01:46:48,747
Speaker 3: And once your message finally, Alex ru to the Phoenix

2086
01:46:48,827 --> 01:46:51,467
Speaker 3: fans and the capital is they obviously had a frustrating

2087
01:46:51,547 --> 01:46:54,227
Speaker 3: season last year as we touched on before, but to

2088
01:46:54,347 --> 01:46:56,907
Speaker 3: get them along and buying tickets and seeing you guys

2089
01:46:56,947 --> 01:46:59,587
Speaker 3: in action this afternoon and for your home games over

2090
01:46:59,627 --> 01:47:01,107
Speaker 3: the next few weeks as well, just.

2091
01:47:01,147 --> 01:47:03,467
Speaker 10: To support us like they always as they're extra man.

2092
01:47:04,107 --> 01:47:05,827
Speaker 10: I believe we've got the best fans in the league.

2093
01:47:06,427 --> 01:47:09,147
Speaker 10: You know, the Yellow Fever are an amazing force and

2094
01:47:09,587 --> 01:47:11,787
Speaker 10: like I said, when they're there in full force, loud

2095
01:47:11,867 --> 01:47:14,267
Speaker 10: and proud and makes all the difference for us. So

2096
01:47:15,307 --> 01:47:17,707
Speaker 10: get behind the lads, you know, be as loud as

2097
01:47:17,747 --> 01:47:20,187
Speaker 10: possible and enjoy the game. Good man.

2098
01:47:20,267 --> 01:47:22,027
Speaker 3: Hey Alex wis you the best of luck this afternoon.

2099
01:47:22,067 --> 01:47:23,667
Speaker 3: Appreciate your time on on News Talk ZBB.

2100
01:47:24,947 --> 01:47:25,747
Speaker 10: Awesome mate, Thank you.

2101
01:47:26,067 --> 01:47:28,627
Speaker 3: Thank you, Alex Riifer. The Phoenix and Action this afternoon

2102
01:47:28,707 --> 01:47:31,627
Speaker 3: three o'clock at Sky Stadium they played the Brisbane Raw

2103
01:47:31,787 --> 01:47:36,667
Speaker 3: one home win last year. Hopefully better days ahead, for

2104
01:47:36,787 --> 01:47:40,067
Speaker 3: the Wellington Phoenix at home in season twenty twenty five

2105
01:47:40,427 --> 01:47:44,347
Speaker 3: twenty six. We're going to change tech completely now and

2106
01:47:45,227 --> 01:47:49,187
Speaker 3: talk about the Winter Paralympics which are early parts of

2107
01:47:49,787 --> 01:47:53,747
Speaker 3: next year. And Corey Peters has been selected for his

2108
01:47:54,507 --> 01:47:57,067
Speaker 3: next games. He's got a very very successful record. In fact,

2109
01:47:57,067 --> 01:48:00,027
Speaker 3: he's won four Paralympic medals. He won gold last time

2110
01:48:00,227 --> 01:48:03,627
Speaker 3: at Beijing on the sitski and he joins us now

2111
01:48:03,747 --> 01:48:05,747
Speaker 3: on News Talk ZEBB as we count down to the

2112
01:48:05,787 --> 01:48:08,507
Speaker 3: Winter Power Olympics next year. Corey, thank you as so

2113
01:48:08,667 --> 01:48:10,067
Speaker 3: much for your time this afternoon.

2114
01:48:10,387 --> 01:48:11,707
Speaker 6: Yeah, no worries, thanks for having me.

2115
01:48:11,907 --> 01:48:12,067
Speaker 18: Well.

2116
01:48:12,107 --> 01:48:15,907
Speaker 3: Count down to Milan Courtsina early next year, of course.

2117
01:48:15,987 --> 01:48:19,867
Speaker 3: How a preparation's going as you get ready for this event.

2118
01:48:21,107 --> 01:48:24,227
Speaker 6: Yeah, preparations are going well. Had a good season here

2119
01:48:24,267 --> 01:48:28,947
Speaker 6: in New Zealand, a nice training camp over in Chile. Yeah,

2120
01:48:29,107 --> 01:48:32,587
Speaker 6: just feeling you know, what's feeling good? Mine's feeling good.

2121
01:48:32,707 --> 01:48:35,907
Speaker 6: So yeah, ready to kick into it in about three

2122
01:48:35,947 --> 01:48:37,147
Speaker 6: weeks when we get off to Europe.

2123
01:48:37,347 --> 01:48:39,907
Speaker 3: Can you believe that it's already been three in a

2124
01:48:39,947 --> 01:48:42,707
Speaker 3: bit years since that golden twenty twenty two.

2125
01:48:43,547 --> 01:48:46,267
Speaker 6: Yeah, it definitely goes fast, you know, it goes by

2126
01:48:46,347 --> 01:48:51,347
Speaker 6: in a flash. Risk you know, it's pretty crazy, but yeah,

2127
01:48:51,387 --> 01:48:54,147
Speaker 6: they come around quick, and yeah, like I said, we're

2128
01:48:54,147 --> 01:48:57,667
Speaker 6: ready to go again and feeling in a good position,

2129
01:48:58,147 --> 01:48:59,907
Speaker 6: feeling confident that gold medal.

2130
01:49:00,187 --> 01:49:01,907
Speaker 3: Do you go back and watch it? I know you've

2131
01:49:01,947 --> 01:49:04,227
Speaker 3: sort of described it as one of the best runs

2132
01:49:04,507 --> 01:49:06,827
Speaker 3: of your life. Do you go back often and watch

2133
01:49:06,907 --> 01:49:08,707
Speaker 3: that means Downhill, Gold Middle.

2134
01:49:09,787 --> 01:49:11,867
Speaker 6: Yeah, to be honest, I do, actually like every once

2135
01:49:11,867 --> 01:49:13,507
Speaker 6: in a while, I'll flick back and watch it, and

2136
01:49:13,587 --> 01:49:15,947
Speaker 6: it kind of almost gives myself a little bit of,

2137
01:49:16,427 --> 01:49:21,107
Speaker 6: you know, extra motivation and inspiration. You had to kind

2138
01:49:21,107 --> 01:49:23,307
Speaker 6: of push forward and hopefully we can do it again.

2139
01:49:23,427 --> 01:49:25,587
Speaker 6: It's obviously not going to be an easy feat. The

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01:49:25,667 --> 01:49:27,947
Speaker 6: competition seems to get better and better every year. So

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01:49:29,147 --> 01:49:31,267
Speaker 6: we'll just go out there and I'll do my best

2142
01:49:31,347 --> 01:49:33,107
Speaker 6: and hopefully try and replicate it.

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01:49:33,347 --> 01:49:36,947
Speaker 3: What went so right that day to create that run

2144
01:49:37,027 --> 01:49:37,467
Speaker 3: of your life?

2145
01:49:37,467 --> 01:49:41,227
Speaker 6: As you said, I think you know what they're talking

2146
01:49:41,227 --> 01:49:43,747
Speaker 6: about with that flow state, you know, like athletes and

2147
01:49:43,827 --> 01:49:44,947
Speaker 6: not get into that flow state.

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01:49:45,027 --> 01:49:46,147
Speaker 22: It kind of felt like that for me.

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01:49:47,347 --> 01:49:49,907
Speaker 6: It just really felt like everything slowed down and I

2150
01:49:49,987 --> 01:49:53,587
Speaker 6: was just in the zone, just tunnel vision. Every turn

2151
01:49:53,787 --> 01:49:57,467
Speaker 6: was felt perfect, and it just felt like I had

2152
01:49:57,507 --> 01:50:00,027
Speaker 6: a lot of time to react, even though you know

2153
01:50:00,107 --> 01:50:01,387
Speaker 6: you're going to one hundred odd.

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01:50:01,347 --> 01:50:04,067
Speaker 3: K and now, and you backed it up the next

2155
01:50:04,147 --> 01:50:07,027
Speaker 3: day with the silver and the super g as well

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01:50:07,067 --> 01:50:08,947
Speaker 3: as it was it hard to back up the next

2157
01:50:09,027 --> 01:50:09,827
Speaker 3: day after that gold.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess you've got a lot of adrenaline going right,

2159
01:50:13,307 --> 01:50:15,907
Speaker 6: and even until the next day it's still there. You're

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01:50:15,907 --> 01:50:19,707
Speaker 6: still on a high. So I guess confidence just breeds

2161
01:50:19,867 --> 01:50:23,307
Speaker 6: more confidence in a way coming off of gold. You

2162
01:50:23,467 --> 01:50:25,187
Speaker 6: just you know, it's kind of what we trained for.

2163
01:50:25,307 --> 01:50:28,747
Speaker 6: You just come back the next day and do it again. Yeah,

2164
01:50:28,747 --> 01:50:30,947
Speaker 6: it was sort of pipped up the post. I guess

2165
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Speaker 6: by half a second. Would have been nice to get

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01:50:32,947 --> 01:50:35,387
Speaker 6: the double gold, but you know that's all history now

2167
01:50:35,467 --> 01:50:38,347
Speaker 6: and we move forward and try and do it again,

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01:50:38,387 --> 01:50:39,427
Speaker 6: this time with two golds.

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01:50:40,387 --> 01:50:40,587
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Fingers crossed. How tricky is the build up being

2171
01:50:44,307 --> 01:50:45,907
Speaker 3: this time? I know you just look at it your

2172
01:50:45,907 --> 01:50:48,427
Speaker 3: shoulder a couple of years back. How much did that,

2173
01:50:49,827 --> 01:50:53,027
Speaker 3: I guess derail or change your plans as you build

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01:50:53,067 --> 01:50:54,467
Speaker 3: into this premier event.

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01:50:55,707 --> 01:50:55,907
Speaker 29: Yeah.

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01:50:56,107 --> 01:50:58,867
Speaker 6: So after Beijing, I had the birth of my daughter,

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01:50:59,107 --> 01:51:01,587
Speaker 6: so I took that year off actually, and then the

2178
01:51:01,627 --> 01:51:03,707
Speaker 6: following year was, like you said, I had the shoulder

2179
01:51:03,867 --> 01:51:08,587
Speaker 6: dessication and that's the second time that shoulder's been out,

2180
01:51:08,667 --> 01:51:10,947
Speaker 6: So it was that rehab took a lot longer than

2181
01:51:11,387 --> 01:51:15,107
Speaker 6: I expected, probably a good twelve months. And then there

2182
01:51:15,187 --> 01:51:17,267
Speaker 6: was a bit of a I guess psychological element to

2183
01:51:17,347 --> 01:51:21,307
Speaker 6: it as well, coming back. I guess having you know,

2184
01:51:21,427 --> 01:51:24,467
Speaker 6: extra responsibilities at home. Now you know, you start questioning,

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01:51:25,067 --> 01:51:27,347
Speaker 6: you know, re injuries and you know, how how much

2186
01:51:27,387 --> 01:51:30,347
Speaker 6: do you want to push? So there was, yeah, that

2187
01:51:30,907 --> 01:51:33,747
Speaker 6: psychological element to it, which you know, I had a

2188
01:51:33,787 --> 01:51:36,387
Speaker 6: little bit of work with the sports I can got

2189
01:51:36,427 --> 01:51:39,827
Speaker 6: back into it with the competition season last Northern Hemisphere,

2190
01:51:40,507 --> 01:51:44,427
Speaker 6: which wasn't my greatest season, but I feel like we've

2191
01:51:44,467 --> 01:51:46,947
Speaker 6: sort of turned the corner nout And yeah, having that

2192
01:51:47,587 --> 01:51:50,707
Speaker 6: camp in Chile this year was a real confidence booster

2193
01:51:50,827 --> 01:51:53,307
Speaker 6: for me, and I feel I've turned the corner and

2194
01:51:54,107 --> 01:51:55,907
Speaker 6: you know, I'm one hundred percent ready to go now,

2195
01:51:56,027 --> 01:51:58,547
Speaker 6: like the shoulders back to normal, it's not really an

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01:51:58,547 --> 01:51:59,227
Speaker 6: issue anymore.

2197
01:51:59,627 --> 01:52:02,347
Speaker 3: It's positive. With the moments though that you were thinking

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01:52:02,387 --> 01:52:04,987
Speaker 3: about checking it in given the amount of rehab that

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01:52:05,667 --> 01:52:07,147
Speaker 3: so you seid to get Yeah, for a year, were

2200
01:52:07,147 --> 01:52:10,027
Speaker 3: at the moments where you thought, maybe, you know, I

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01:52:10,107 --> 01:52:12,027
Speaker 3: don't need to come back, I don't want to come back.

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01:52:12,987 --> 01:52:15,107
Speaker 6: Oh no, it's always you know, you always want to

2203
01:52:15,627 --> 01:52:17,427
Speaker 6: for me, like it was always there, I was always

2204
01:52:17,427 --> 01:52:21,307
Speaker 6: going to come back. There's no question about you know, quitting.

2205
01:52:22,147 --> 01:52:24,307
Speaker 6: I think it's I've learned.

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01:52:24,067 --> 01:52:24,587
Speaker 2: Over the years.

2207
01:52:24,627 --> 01:52:27,827
Speaker 6: You know, you're always going to face adversity. Athletes, you know,

2208
01:52:27,907 --> 01:52:29,827
Speaker 6: always going through injuries and stuff, and it's just a

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01:52:29,907 --> 01:52:33,067
Speaker 6: matter of picking yourself back up and you know, working

2210
01:52:33,107 --> 01:52:35,867
Speaker 6: with a medical team and the strength and conditioning coaches

2211
01:52:35,987 --> 01:52:39,747
Speaker 6: to get back to one hundred percent. And that's where

2212
01:52:39,787 --> 01:52:42,187
Speaker 6: we're at now. So yeah, ready to go.

2213
01:52:42,627 --> 01:52:44,627
Speaker 3: You mentioned that you've become a dad obviously in the

2214
01:52:44,707 --> 01:52:47,827
Speaker 3: last couple of years since the last Paralympics as well.

2215
01:52:47,907 --> 01:52:51,507
Speaker 3: Has that changed your perspective on racing and your preparations

2216
01:52:51,547 --> 01:52:52,707
Speaker 3: and training and everything like that.

2217
01:52:54,707 --> 01:52:57,387
Speaker 6: I guess a little bit. And also in a way

2218
01:52:57,427 --> 01:53:00,507
Speaker 6: it's sort of motivating as well. You're not just doing

2219
01:53:00,547 --> 01:53:03,147
Speaker 6: it for yourself anymore. You're doing it for the family

2220
01:53:03,947 --> 01:53:06,627
Speaker 6: and a little young one now, So yeah, gives me

2221
01:53:06,747 --> 01:53:10,947
Speaker 6: inspiration and motivation to keep pushing forward and yeah, just

2222
01:53:11,027 --> 01:53:14,467
Speaker 6: give it my all. Really, But I guess that there

2223
01:53:14,547 --> 01:53:17,067
Speaker 6: is that little bit of element of you know, re

2224
01:53:17,307 --> 01:53:19,467
Speaker 6: injuries and things like that. But I think every athlete

2225
01:53:19,707 --> 01:53:23,387
Speaker 6: you know has has that. But you know, we put

2226
01:53:23,467 --> 01:53:26,307
Speaker 6: on the training, we work on the technique and stuff

2227
01:53:26,347 --> 01:53:30,707
Speaker 6: like that, so hopefully, you know, all that comes into

2228
01:53:30,787 --> 01:53:32,907
Speaker 6: play and it won't happen again.

2229
01:53:33,227 --> 01:53:36,187
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Corey tell me to you talk to me about

2230
01:53:36,227 --> 01:53:39,507
Speaker 3: your set ski. Now, what goes into getting that piece

2231
01:53:39,547 --> 01:53:42,187
Speaker 3: of equipment right? How much sake can you have? What

2232
01:53:42,227 --> 01:53:45,267
Speaker 3: are the regulations? Are there any regulations around it for

2233
01:53:45,787 --> 01:53:48,507
Speaker 3: what you are using as you prepare for the Olympics.

2234
01:53:50,547 --> 01:53:55,787
Speaker 6: Yeah, so my six keys quite highly motivated, not motivated modified.

2235
01:53:57,707 --> 01:54:03,867
Speaker 6: We work closely with the Crisis Canterbury University and their team.

2236
01:54:03,947 --> 01:54:07,347
Speaker 6: They have worked on making it an dynamic as possible

2237
01:54:07,387 --> 01:54:10,227
Speaker 6: in terms of like the leg fairing and the camtail

2238
01:54:10,267 --> 01:54:12,587
Speaker 6: on the back of the seat. So that's sort of

2239
01:54:12,667 --> 01:54:14,947
Speaker 6: like a one off, one of a common thing. Nobody

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01:54:14,987 --> 01:54:18,787
Speaker 6: else is really doing it and it just helps reduce

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01:54:18,827 --> 01:54:20,307
Speaker 6: the drag when I'm coming down the mountain.

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01:54:22,027 --> 01:54:22,187
Speaker 11: You know.

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01:54:22,227 --> 01:54:24,867
Speaker 6: I guess it's much like a final these sports, we're

2244
01:54:25,067 --> 01:54:28,667
Speaker 6: looking for fractions of a second you know, it all counts.

2245
01:54:28,747 --> 01:54:30,147
Speaker 32: So yeah, it.

2246
01:54:30,227 --> 01:54:33,187
Speaker 6: Hugely grateful for you know, the support that I've had

2247
01:54:33,467 --> 01:54:37,307
Speaker 6: through Cannobi University and the team there that have ensured

2248
01:54:37,347 --> 01:54:39,907
Speaker 6: that I'm pretty much, you know, and one of the

2249
01:54:39,947 --> 01:54:41,747
Speaker 6: best kids six kis in the world.

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Speaker 3: How much has that changed since twenty eleven when you

2251
01:54:45,587 --> 01:54:48,307
Speaker 3: took up the sport. How much is the technology and

2252
01:54:48,427 --> 01:54:50,987
Speaker 3: things that go into a change and what you use

2253
01:54:51,907 --> 01:54:53,227
Speaker 3: since you first picked it up.

2254
01:54:54,747 --> 01:54:58,187
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the sport's hugely progressed. You know, like

2255
01:54:58,427 --> 01:55:01,747
Speaker 6: especially with the technology side of it. There's a lot

2256
01:55:01,827 --> 01:55:04,387
Speaker 6: more science and you know, collecting data and all that

2257
01:55:04,467 --> 01:55:07,467
Speaker 6: sort of thing now going on. Everybody is looking for,

2258
01:55:08,347 --> 01:55:11,107
Speaker 6: you know, those extra little games when you're you know,

2259
01:55:11,187 --> 01:55:15,387
Speaker 6: like I said earlier, losing, you know, getting second by

2260
01:55:15,787 --> 01:55:17,707
Speaker 6: less than half a second or whatever it was. It's

2261
01:55:17,747 --> 01:55:20,307
Speaker 6: you know, everybody's just looking for those extra little fractions

2262
01:55:20,387 --> 01:55:24,547
Speaker 6: of second. And I think you're just with all the

2263
01:55:24,707 --> 01:55:28,667
Speaker 6: technology and you know, the data collection, it's the competitions

2264
01:55:28,707 --> 01:55:30,667
Speaker 6: just got different stuff as the years have gone on.

2265
01:55:31,507 --> 01:55:33,947
Speaker 3: Take me to the top of the mountain. I guess

2266
01:55:33,987 --> 01:55:35,987
Speaker 3: I was watching you go been to run last night

2267
01:55:36,507 --> 01:55:38,307
Speaker 3: as I was preparing to chat to you and what's

2268
01:55:38,387 --> 01:55:40,587
Speaker 3: going through your mind as you prepare to drop in.

2269
01:55:40,827 --> 01:55:42,827
Speaker 3: I guess that's the terminology. I hope it's the terminology

2270
01:55:43,547 --> 01:55:45,947
Speaker 3: for you. You're sitting downhill race like you did at

2271
01:55:45,947 --> 01:55:47,707
Speaker 3: the at the Paralympics in Beijing.

2272
01:55:49,427 --> 01:55:52,667
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think with that that particular event, the downhill,

2273
01:55:53,187 --> 01:55:55,307
Speaker 6: it's the only event that we get to have to

2274
01:55:55,547 --> 01:55:58,867
Speaker 6: training run then just because of the risk and the

2275
01:55:58,987 --> 01:56:02,707
Speaker 6: dangers involved with this higher speed. So that allows you

2276
01:56:02,787 --> 01:56:05,187
Speaker 6: to kind of build, you know, say training run one

2277
01:56:05,627 --> 01:56:09,587
Speaker 6: in two and just continue to keep building till race day. Unfortunately,

2278
01:56:09,627 --> 01:56:12,867
Speaker 6: I crashed in both those training runs, so I didn't

2279
01:56:12,867 --> 01:56:16,827
Speaker 6: actually get to finish the whole course as such. So yeah,

2280
01:56:16,827 --> 01:56:19,187
Speaker 6: there's a little bit of nerves obviously in the stargate,

2281
01:56:20,587 --> 01:56:22,827
Speaker 6: you know, knowing that you hadn't actually finished the whole

2282
01:56:22,907 --> 01:56:26,467
Speaker 6: course or put it all together. But I think, you know,

2283
01:56:26,627 --> 01:56:28,627
Speaker 6: we train all the time like this, Like I said,

2284
01:56:28,667 --> 01:56:31,347
Speaker 6: you kind of once you break that wand and you're

2285
01:56:31,387 --> 01:56:34,067
Speaker 6: on course, it's just like a tunnel vision, you know,

2286
01:56:34,227 --> 01:56:38,547
Speaker 6: like everything else just I guess disappears, you know, and

2287
01:56:38,627 --> 01:56:42,947
Speaker 6: you've just got that one focus and obviously, you know,

2288
01:56:43,107 --> 01:56:44,747
Speaker 6: because of the speed you going, the risk you know,

2289
01:56:45,147 --> 01:56:47,707
Speaker 6: it makes sense to just be in the zone and

2290
01:56:47,787 --> 01:56:52,027
Speaker 6: fully focused. You know, if you laps that concentration, then

2291
01:56:52,627 --> 01:56:53,987
Speaker 6: you know obviously it's not going to end well and

2292
01:56:54,027 --> 01:56:58,187
Speaker 6: you'll probably end up crashing. So yeah, just full concentration,

2293
01:56:58,467 --> 01:57:01,027
Speaker 6: full focus on each gate in front of you.

2294
01:57:01,947 --> 01:57:05,267
Speaker 3: Corey Peters with US New Zealand ski Rice a Paralympian,

2295
01:57:05,347 --> 01:57:07,467
Speaker 3: full time medalist, a couple of final questions.

2296
01:57:07,547 --> 01:57:07,827
Speaker 2: Corey.

2297
01:57:08,427 --> 01:57:11,707
Speaker 3: The Paralympics starts in early March. So what does the

2298
01:57:11,787 --> 01:57:13,827
Speaker 3: next few months look like. You mentioned you're off for

2299
01:57:14,267 --> 01:57:15,347
Speaker 3: the Norn the Hemisphere soon.

2300
01:57:16,587 --> 01:57:18,507
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're heading off in about three weeks to

2301
01:57:18,587 --> 01:57:22,587
Speaker 6: Italy to start our preparations, final preparations or final push.

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01:57:22,627 --> 01:57:23,147
Speaker 11: I guess.

2303
01:57:25,187 --> 01:57:27,987
Speaker 6: We're predominantly going to be based in Italy fairly close

2304
01:57:28,067 --> 01:57:33,307
Speaker 6: to Courtina, but from there where we'll travel and follow

2305
01:57:33,347 --> 01:57:35,907
Speaker 6: the World Cup circuit as well, so we'll have World

2306
01:57:35,987 --> 01:57:39,747
Speaker 6: Cup preparation races prior to the Games, and I guess

2307
01:57:39,787 --> 01:57:43,787
Speaker 6: that'll give us obviously good preparation, but we'll also kind

2308
01:57:43,827 --> 01:57:46,147
Speaker 6: of benchmark of where you're at with your competition as well,

2309
01:57:46,187 --> 01:57:48,587
Speaker 6: and the leader to Courtina and.

2310
01:57:48,667 --> 01:57:50,787
Speaker 3: How confident at this point. You mentioned obviously it's been

2311
01:57:51,027 --> 01:57:53,587
Speaker 3: a rocky sort of build up, but that you know,

2312
01:57:53,787 --> 01:57:55,347
Speaker 3: might be able to add to those four medals that

2313
01:57:55,347 --> 01:57:56,227
Speaker 3: you've got for New Zeald.

2314
01:57:57,827 --> 01:58:01,907
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's obviously the goal. I've had one hundred percent

2315
01:58:02,027 --> 01:58:06,987
Speaker 6: success right with my Paralympic campaigns with a middle every

2316
01:58:07,067 --> 01:58:10,307
Speaker 6: game I've attended, so I want to continue that Patsy

2317
01:58:10,347 --> 01:58:14,307
Speaker 6: aldomate goal. And yeah, I guess just go there and

2318
01:58:14,947 --> 01:58:18,107
Speaker 6: give it your role and just be proud of the

2319
01:58:18,187 --> 01:58:20,947
Speaker 6: effort that you put in and see where you kind

2320
01:58:20,987 --> 01:58:21,987
Speaker 6: of end up in a way.

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01:58:22,307 --> 01:58:24,547
Speaker 3: Absolutely well. We look forward to that early next year

2322
01:58:24,587 --> 01:58:27,827
Speaker 3: and following your progress and the lead up to the Paralympics. Corey,

2323
01:58:27,867 --> 01:58:29,547
Speaker 3: thanks so much of your time on news Talk zeb

2324
01:58:29,787 --> 01:58:30,267
Speaker 3: last chatting.

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01:58:31,267 --> 01:58:33,907
Speaker 6: Thanks a lot, awesome for Henry. Thanks appreciate it.

2326
01:58:34,267 --> 01:58:34,507
Speaker 9: Corey.

2327
01:58:34,547 --> 01:58:37,387
Speaker 3: Peter's joining us on Newstalk ZIBB on a Sunday afternoon

2328
01:58:37,427 --> 01:58:40,867
Speaker 3: weekend Sport New Zealand. Sis Skier heading for the Paralympics

2329
01:58:41,027 --> 01:58:44,827
Speaker 3: is fourth next year. Grateful for his time this afternoon.

2330
01:58:45,027 --> 01:58:48,707
Speaker 3: Another one's gone at bay Oval Josh Butler gone thirty

2331
01:58:48,747 --> 01:58:52,707
Speaker 3: three for five. England Harry Brooks is the only player

2332
01:58:52,787 --> 01:58:55,307
Speaker 3: that has scored double figures as yet he's not out

2333
01:58:55,347 --> 01:58:59,027
Speaker 3: twenty two Butler went for four, Folks has three, Henry

2334
01:58:59,147 --> 01:59:02,387
Speaker 3: has two. England All Sorts thirty three for five in

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01:59:02,427 --> 01:59:05,067
Speaker 3: the ninth ive back with more on Weekend Sport after this.

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Speaker 1: Questions off the Turf Weekend Sport with GJ. Gunn Homes

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder news Dogs.

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Speaker 3: MB twelve away from three great piece on the New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Here All week in Herald this weekend about Craig Wicks,

2340
01:59:20,627 --> 01:59:23,187
Speaker 3: who helped Unto Orzu win the NPC and made his

2341
01:59:23,347 --> 01:59:27,907
Speaker 3: all Blacks debut in nineteen eighty aged eighteen. And as

2342
01:59:27,947 --> 01:59:30,747
Speaker 3: the story goes on, then just as quickly he disappeared.

2343
01:59:30,747 --> 01:59:35,427
Speaker 3: The remarkable story of the only schoolboy all Black, Craig Wicks.

2344
01:59:35,507 --> 01:59:38,067
Speaker 3: The man that wrote the article is New Zealand Herald

2345
01:59:38,147 --> 01:59:41,627
Speaker 3: sports journalist Michael Burgess, and he joins us now, Michael,

2346
01:59:42,067 --> 01:59:45,307
Speaker 3: had this story been percolating for a while, he'd have

2347
01:59:45,427 --> 01:59:46,187
Speaker 3: actually writing it.

2348
01:59:46,747 --> 01:59:50,427
Speaker 28: It had actually alit. I came across it in twenty twenty.

2349
01:59:50,467 --> 01:59:52,907
Speaker 28: I was doing a story on Schoolboy Rugby, talking to

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Speaker 28: some of the Super eight schools, which of course of

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01:59:55,787 --> 01:59:59,027
Speaker 28: the big boys schools around the North island outside Auckland

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Speaker 28: and just talking to someone at Palmerston North Boys High

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Speaker 28: and he just casually mentioned I think it was a

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Speaker 28: sports director casually mention when I was talking about some

2355
02:00:07,547 --> 02:00:10,547
Speaker 28: famous six pupils. He said, oh, we had a kid

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02:00:10,627 --> 02:00:12,827
Speaker 28: here once who played for the All Blacks while he

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Speaker 28: was still at school. And I said, really, that can't

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Speaker 28: be possible, get it? And I wanted to know more.

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Speaker 3: Apart from that, what did you find out that surprised

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Speaker 3: you Over the course of putting to the story together.

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Speaker 28: I think the most amazing thing about his story is

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Speaker 28: what he achieved in such a small space of time,

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Speaker 28: because getting picked for the All Blacks as a schoolboy

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Speaker 28: as remarkable and as we said the story, it's never

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Speaker 28: happened before.

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Speaker 2: It never happened again, obviously, but he was a regular.

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Speaker 28: In the Muna We two team back in the days

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Speaker 28: Elliott when NPC was everything, there's no Super Rugby, there

2369
02:00:47,427 --> 02:00:49,307
Speaker 28: were All Blacks playing in every team. I think there

2370
02:00:49,347 --> 02:00:51,467
Speaker 28: were seven All Blacks in that Mona Were two team

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Speaker 28: in nineteen eighty that went on to win the NPC

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Speaker 28: for the only time in their history. They beat everyone,

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Speaker 28: They beat Canterbury, they breat Auckland, they beat all the

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Speaker 28: big provinces to win the NPC.

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Speaker 2: He's a regular in that team.

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Speaker 28: He gets elective for the North Island team, gets elect

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Speaker 28: of the New Zealand Colts. And if you look back

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Speaker 28: at that colts team in nineteen eighty that went to

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Speaker 28: play Australia, that was a who's who you got the

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Speaker 28: you got the Wetton brothers, you got Karen Crowley, you've

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Speaker 28: got Rock Taylor, Arthur Stone. So the schoolboy, the only

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Speaker 28: school bearing that colts team as well, was just mixing

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Speaker 28: it with guys who would all go on to have

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Speaker 28: pretty amazing careers. Unfortunately he didn't, but the fact he

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Speaker 28: finn heads so quickly across the rugby nation was quite amazing.

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Speaker 3: You spoke to some of his contemporaries as well. What

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Speaker 3: kind of a steam was he held in Craig Wicks.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, I think that's the other thing that comes across

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Speaker 28: when you speak to guys like Mark Donaldson, who you know,

2390
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Speaker 28: listeners remember great All Blacks half back sort of dueling

2391
02:01:54,947 --> 02:01:57,107
Speaker 28: with Dave Loverage for a long time for that number

2392
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Speaker 28: nine spot. Who's nickname Bullet? Who's the one or two captain?

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Speaker 28: He said great things about Craig Wigs. He said, one

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Speaker 28: thing that stood out was he came into the team

2395
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Speaker 28: just didn't need any looking after. He just sort of

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Speaker 28: fitted in straight away into a man's game, a tough

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Speaker 28: man's game. He got this seventeen year old, eighteen year

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Speaker 28: old kid fitting in. And I love the comments too

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Speaker 28: from Mark Shaw Cowboy, who is an absolute legend, and

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Speaker 28: he just said, oh, you know, the boy was outstanding.

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Speaker 2: No one could catch him.

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Speaker 11: He was just, you know, just a standing bastard.

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Speaker 28: I think, make sure said in his own way. So yeah,

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Speaker 28: I think his contemporaries all rated him pretty highly and

2405
02:02:40,707 --> 02:02:43,467
Speaker 28: that shows I guess how good he was.

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Speaker 3: And obviously, as you alluded to before, it didn't all

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Speaker 3: go to plan and unfortunately didn't have perhaps the All

2408
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Speaker 3: Blacks career that he envisaged through injuries. And that's probably

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Speaker 3: also what makes the story so fascinating as well.

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Speaker 28: It's a pretty big what might have been story, Elliott,

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Speaker 28: because it wasn't just he didn't have the All Blacks

2412
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Speaker 28: crew might have been that he might have had. He

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02:03:04,227 --> 02:03:06,147
Speaker 28: didn't have the rugby crew he might have had he

2414
02:03:06,507 --> 02:03:08,707
Speaker 28: played that nineteen eighty season. I mentioned all the things

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Speaker 28: he did there nineteen eighty one, there were a few

2416
02:03:10,987 --> 02:03:14,427
Speaker 28: niggling injuries, but he's still at that stage. He's nineteen,

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Speaker 28: he's still good enough. He was an Ill Blacks trial,

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02:03:16,707 --> 02:03:18,987
Speaker 28: he was in the Colts again. He played for one

2419
02:03:19,107 --> 02:03:22,067
Speaker 28: or two against the spring Box that controversial tour, so

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Speaker 28: he's still very much up there. And then the start

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Speaker 28: of the nineteen eighty two season, in pre season, i

2422
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Speaker 28: think before his twentieth birthday, had this horrific knee injury

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Speaker 28: similar to the Michael Jones injury of nine eighty nine

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Speaker 28: where he ruptured both major cruciates in his knee and back.

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Speaker 28: Then in nineteen eighty two, they really didn't know how

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Speaker 28: to fix it. Compared to it by the time Michael

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Speaker 28: Jones did it, they obviously had much better technology and

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02:03:51,027 --> 02:03:54,987
Speaker 28: they kind of bungled the surgery as well. He had

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Speaker 28: repeated operation of the next three or four years, but

2430
02:03:57,707 --> 02:04:00,427
Speaker 28: just never came right and had to pull the pin.

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Speaker 28: So never really played again. So very big what might

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02:04:04,587 --> 02:04:08,747
Speaker 28: have been. Is quite philosophical about it. He's in a

2433
02:04:08,827 --> 02:04:10,947
Speaker 28: ways happy he had, he had the time he did

2434
02:04:11,747 --> 02:04:13,467
Speaker 28: and he got the chance to shine when he did,

2435
02:04:13,587 --> 02:04:17,787
Speaker 28: although I'm sure he wonders what earth and what what

2436
02:04:17,947 --> 02:04:20,107
Speaker 28: he could have done if things had it turned out differently,

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Speaker 28: as a lot of his teammates from back then seemed

2438
02:04:22,747 --> 02:04:23,427
Speaker 28: to wonder as well.

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Speaker 3: Michael Burgess, thank you for your time this afternoon on

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Speaker 3: the story of Craig Wix. You can read it on

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand Herald. Back to wrap the show after this,

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Speaker 3: it is for away from three on Weekend Sport thanks

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Speaker 3: to Andy McDonald. Jason Pine is back with you next

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Speaker 3: weekend Saturday and Sunday. Otherwise, have yourselves a fantastic labor

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Speaker 3: weekend to beverage and next and look forward to catching

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Speaker 3: you from Chicago for the All Blacks and Ireland next

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