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Speaker 1: No, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Welcome along to the podcast the Friday, the twenty eighth

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Speaker 2: of November edition.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hitting into the Weekend. See what I did there? Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because the song is by the Weekend. I was listening

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Speaker 3: to The Weekend on the way in this morning, and

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Speaker 3: as I was thinking, as I was listening to it,

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know who I bit loves the Weekend,

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Wells.

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Speaker 4: I really do love the Weekend? What was it that

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Speaker 4: made you think that I would love The Weekend?

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Speaker 3: Basically, thinly veiled sexual double on tendre This is right

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Speaker 3: up Jerry's Ali The Weekend. I was at UNI when

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Speaker 3: The Weekend came out with his trilogy album that was

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Speaker 3: three back to back albums or released on the one album.

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Speaker 3: I came over in town one night and to get

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Speaker 3: into a flat at that time you had to walk

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Speaker 3: through a giant runch slides straight into the lounge. And

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Speaker 3: I got home, one of my flatmates was on the

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Speaker 3: couch with a girl lights on with The Weekend blasting

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Speaker 3: on the thing. Yeah, and I was like, oh God,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to walk through this to get to

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Speaker 3: my room. So yeah, that's just some dry humping going on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, this is deeply six the soft all of us,

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Speaker 4: all of us music is.

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Speaker 1: It's got six.

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Speaker 4: But who likes music that doesn't have any six? You know,

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Speaker 4: like you, it's got to have some six.

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Speaker 3: In it, like rim losing my religion or take a

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Speaker 3: picture by filter.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have any six in it at all.

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Speaker 3: But not oil, it's a burning well hang on, So Jerry,

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Speaker 3: you don't get turned on when you hear that guy

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Speaker 3: go mining, come bunny.

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Speaker 4: That does not give us for me, like the least sick,

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Speaker 4: there's nothing sixy about that.

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Speaker 1: You hate ins, I hate.

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Speaker 4: An I just look actually, look, that's not fair to

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Speaker 4: say I had them. I just don't feel anything. It

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Speaker 4: just makes me feel nothing. It's music that it's music

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Speaker 4: that just makes me feel nothing, and it's got to

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Speaker 4: make you feel like it's going to.

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Speaker 1: Make you feel something.

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Speaker 5: Just funny, because if you were to be a song,

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Speaker 5: you'd be no.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, does that make you feel I can picture you

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Speaker 3: in the music video for this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I appreciate it's a catchy hook. I suppose

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to find it positive about that song. I

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Speaker 4: never liked it when it came out, And my issue

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Speaker 4: is that for a lot of this music, like MESHI,

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Speaker 4: you weren't alive when that song came out, and so

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Speaker 4: for you, it's like a classic cut of the past.

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Speaker 4: But when you lived it, you were there, and I

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Speaker 4: was there in the contemporary moment when it existed, and

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Speaker 4: that was where it was written and performed, and it

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Speaker 4: sat in its contemporariness at that point with its other

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Speaker 4: contemporary friends. So it's other things that were happening at

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Speaker 4: the time that sucked.

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Speaker 1: It sucked at the time.

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Speaker 5: Callback sucked, similar kind of category. And yeah, now earnestly

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Speaker 5: do listen to Creed and we quite like it, but

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Speaker 5: it's not really.

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Speaker 3: Me on one of them.

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Speaker 5: It's like live. It just sucked at the time. So

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Speaker 5: hard Fighting Cracious is a huge tune.

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Speaker 1: It sucked.

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Speaker 3: What about the dolphins, crist We me and me and

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Speaker 3: my mate were driving and both of our misses with

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Speaker 3: us in the car and one of those lives that

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Speaker 3: live song came on and when it hit the.

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Speaker 4: The Angel happens around.

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Speaker 3: We both hit that as hard as we possibly could,

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Speaker 3: and both of our partners like, what the I've never

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Speaker 3: heard the song before my.

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Speaker 1: Life, but they heard it.

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Speaker 3: I know they hadn't heard it and then wow, me

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Speaker 3: and Pete who had grow up, grown up angsty teenagers

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Speaker 3: in the Canterbury Planes, we hit it. Yeah, bad.

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Speaker 1: Singing Jerry.

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Speaker 3: But because the thing was the thing with Creed I

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Speaker 3: think in particular, first off, Christian rock band, which does

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Speaker 3: not make Christianity call it makes rock shit. But the

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Speaker 3: other thing is they were a bit derivative of bands

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Speaker 4: They were legit gm They were a copy of Pearl

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Speaker 4: Jam from ninety ninety one. That is like he's trying

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Speaker 4: to he's doing any better in person, shitty pearl Jam.

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Speaker 4: There's only enough one. There's enough for him for one

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Speaker 4: Eddy better with that yarling and that's enough. He invented it.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, that's the style.

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Speaker 3: But to impersonate that, yeah, But I think without that

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Speaker 3: frame of reference with people my age, because we didn't

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Speaker 3: have that like this is a shitty pearl Jam, we

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Speaker 3: just we just took it at face value and we're like,

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Speaker 3: is there's something about It's the same as like those

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Speaker 3: eight the eighties music, because it's so unironic and so

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Speaker 3: earnest that it's quite funny now to listen back to them.

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Speaker 3: It's like watching an eighties action movie.

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Speaker 4: Like I heard Dave Grohl talking about his drumming on

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Speaker 4: never Mind when he's drumming for Nirvana, and he was

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Speaker 4: saying that he was embarrassed that it was a rip

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Speaker 4: work out that he was impersonating. Now, that was incredibly

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Speaker 4: original at the time. Like what they did on never

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Speaker 4: Mind was as a never Mind's a great album. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I know now when you hear Nirvanna again sometimes

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Speaker 4: it sounds dirgy and grim, but on Gostand put it

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Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety one, and it's a completely different thing

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Speaker 4: because that sounded completely fresh and great. New now that

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Speaker 4: there is great musicianship when you actually are derivative of something.

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Speaker 4: But I never knew that when I was listening to it,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have known that it was disco. Yeah, he

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Speaker 4: was impersonating.

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Speaker 3: There's that great clip of him talking to Pharrell and

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Speaker 3: he's like, he stole that stuff off those funk bands.

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Speaker 4: Then he was like, surely someone's going to find me out. However, Creed,

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Speaker 4: now that is derivative in a way that you immediately go, no,

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Speaker 4: that music should be original.

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Speaker 3: You should borrow from people and lean on them, but

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Speaker 3: you should never just straight roomed them.

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't be able to tell this nekel band, this

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Speaker 1: is Nickelback. How do you think about Nuckleback.

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Speaker 4: I never really listened to Nekelback because they were I

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Speaker 4: was working on a student radio station at the time

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Speaker 4: and we kind of were we were the opposite of Neckleback,

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Speaker 4: so we wouldn't even listen to any of this sort

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Speaker 4: I'd hear this on a on a hodech in those.

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Speaker 3: Days, because that's rasher. Yeah, mainstream, I'd.

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Speaker 1: Never really didn't really come into my sphere.

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Speaker 3: Have you watched the Nickelback doco on Netflix? No, you

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Speaker 3: should watch that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I never I never had any hate because I never

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Speaker 3: But it became a meme in the twenty tens that

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Speaker 3: Nckleback suck, and there was all these jokes about Knuckleback

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Speaker 3: and a petition because they were supposed to play at

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and they launched a petition to get

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Speaker 3: rid of Nukelback off the Super Bowl. If you go

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Speaker 3: and watch the Netflix doco. They talk about all that stuff,

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Speaker 3: and the guy is really interesting Chad Kroger because he

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Speaker 3: was like he's talking to his bandmates, one of them

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Speaker 3: is his brother, and he's like, the difference is for me,

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Speaker 3: I am Knickelback. So when I go to the supermarket,

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Speaker 3: I'm Knickelback. When I go to the pub, I'm knuckleback.

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Speaker 3: You they can just you know, they don't notice it.

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Speaker 1: It's you.

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Speaker 3: And so every time he walked out of the house,

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Speaker 1: Your bed sucks your ship. Yeah, and it really had

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean that sucks because the guy was

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Speaker 4: just putting out music.

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Speaker 1: It was really popular.

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Speaker 3: Like that's really good.

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Speaker 1: Like really hating something.

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Speaker 4: It's like you gotta love something to hate it, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got to be a certain level of popular

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Speaker 3: for anyone to actually give a ship.

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Speaker 4: Kind of the ultimate form of love. Really differently the

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Speaker 4: reason we like it as well.

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Speaker 5: I saw an interview that he was doing something that

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Speaker 5: he figured out that country music had, like, you know,

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Speaker 5: really catchy choruses and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I realized that if he writes his rock songs, so

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Speaker 5: he writes a country churn, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: he's gonna have some really catchy rock songs. And now

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Speaker 5: you can hear yeah, like the kind of of someone

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Speaker 5: you just sounded a little bit more southern. They would

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Speaker 5: be country songs.

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Speaker 1: What's what's the big one? What's the big what's the big?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Not photograph?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got great chorus, Like that's a catchy.

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Speaker 5: This is not photograph, this is this is photograph?

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Speaker 1: Okay, not this.

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Speaker 4: One off this one that goes so hard. That's clever,

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Speaker 4: I reckon, that's a really clever. That's clever, But it's

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Speaker 4: for me. It's just too in a narrow to sonically,

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Speaker 3: Every piss up with my mates by three am we're

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Speaker 4: Every wedding I stoppling, and then with the gaps like

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Speaker 4: that's that's that's really good, so hard.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but I don't. I wouldn't put it

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Speaker 3: What if you're wasted around a kitchen table at three am?

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Speaker 4: And tomorrow I think if I knew the lyrics, maybe

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Speaker 4: you know, it's one of those kind of the lyrics

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Speaker 4: to really love it.

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Speaker 3: That's falls in South canon. We'll never forget that song.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a break.

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Speaker 4: It always feels like how could I be lovers when

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Speaker 4: they can't be friends through its? So for me, I

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Speaker 4: think your knickelback is probably my tool.

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Speaker 3: I not a lot of party anthems from tool.

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Speaker 4: Wow, stink first, the way that stink first, particularly.

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Speaker 1: The last part of it when it breaks down, which

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Speaker 1: is going to come try to see, Oh, we might

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Speaker 1: not be able to get there. So I've just got

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Speaker 1: the hook SNAr full.

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Speaker 4: It's a powerful, powerful roof that one that's.

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Speaker 1: Newer, pretty heavy in it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, super heavy, yeah, super heavy, but live sounds exactly

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Speaker 4: the same. They can replicate that sound perfectly with band live,

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Speaker 4: not the band live.

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Speaker 1: No live. They are the musician's next level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you kind of realize that, actually you can't

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Speaker 4: always think it's it's the lead singer who's driving. It's like, no,

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Speaker 4: that's not actually it's the rhythm section of the drama

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Speaker 4: is next to weird time signatures.

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Speaker 3: Oh dude, Yeah, And I've watched I mean, I go

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Speaker 3: home and I get on the YouTube and watch these

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Speaker 3: guys talking about the stuff. And apparently even within the

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Speaker 3: band they will have the arguments about the time signature.

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Speaker 3: They all play in time, but they're all like they've

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Speaker 3: got a different idea of where they are and the well,

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Speaker 3: that's it.

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Speaker 4: You've got a singer who's singing and the completely different

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Speaker 3: It's the thinking man's bogan metal. They were here a

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Speaker 4: Last week, two shows And this is the interesting thing,

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Speaker 1: Yes. And how many other bands are there in New

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Speaker 4: Apparently Tall and Shania Twain New Zealand New Zealanders by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that.

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Speaker 3: And apparently she sounds just like that's live as well.

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Speaker 3: That's the the amazing part of Shanaia.

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Speaker 5: Shanaiah's not the crossover diagram between Tall and Twain.

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Speaker 3: Though, You'll go to Shania Twain if your message will

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Speaker 1: That's probably.

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Speaker 5: What else did she say?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she has a New Zealm connection too, because she

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Speaker 3: She Yeah, all right, brad Pet.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't impress me. But funk that didn't impress me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate it if someone was Brad Pet. If you

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Speaker 3: be pretty impressed. Whip that did impress That impressed me much?

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Speaker 1: What else do you want to listen to? Well?

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Speaker 3: Tall also won our Battle of the Bands last year

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Speaker 3: and then sold out to gigs and then we were like,

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Speaker 1: That was a bit too much. I understand some people

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Speaker 4: Maybe not, Yeah, maybe not, But I people probably thought

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Speaker 3: A lot of people think that about our show.

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Speaker 1: But I mean ranging its Machine that will make you

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Speaker 4: The song was disappoints because when we apply it, it

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Speaker 5: This is my favorite rage tune.

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Speaker 1: Bomb track just.

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Speaker 3: Started out as a skitch in his notebook. I didn't

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Speaker 3: know it. Let's know you're in it, but it does

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 4: I think I know? Ever? Sa bombem because he's from LA.

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Speaker 1: Because it's a bomb trigger.

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Speaker 4: Faint and were raised first witness to the slit wrists.

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Speaker 5: With back to your point earlier, still in a role

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Speaker 3: They would protest songs. It was anger, which again is

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Speaker 1: Some good trouble. Yeah, they're all about sticking it to

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Speaker 4: Regimes and communists, No, not communists, corrupt corrupt regimes that

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Speaker 5: Do you know a band that I feel like it

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that for any other other controversial reasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think that because for me what put me off

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Speaker 3: the Red Heart Chili Peppers is every dude growing up

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Speaker 3: guitars and butchered them, and so all I can hear

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Speaker 4: I've got a sound though, I mean, oh yeah, lots

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Speaker 4: as he's got his way of saying that it's pretty unique.

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Speaker 4: He's very focused on the young ladies, that's for sure,

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Speaker 1: You reckon.

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Speaker 3: His music might not belong for our playlist.

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Speaker 4: We'll see seeing them live though, great Man live and

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Speaker 4: they play all their hats. Plus they noodle in the

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Speaker 4: they they are good. So why I think that clever

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Speaker 4: because they're all great music. But instead they get something

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Speaker 4: then play the huts as well, so the crowd happy

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Speaker 4: and that happy just brillant.

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Speaker 5: This tune here has a touch of the incubation about it.

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Speaker 1: It does annoying harmonies bvs BV.

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Speaker 5: Sorry to the chilies, they didn't really that.

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Speaker 4: Should we go all right?

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Speaker 1: Up your play out on that?

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Speaker 5: What do we not play on a song?

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Speaker 3: What are you feeling that?

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Speaker 1: What are you reckon? Hmmm?

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Speaker 3: What about take a picture of filter. We're gonna space hole, bro.

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Speaker 3: When you touch me, not kill me.

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Speaker 5: Woul me.

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Speaker 4: Wuloutter killed me and I