1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from news Talks at be. 3 00:00:13,333 --> 00:00:13,693 Speaker 2: Slack. 4 00:00:21,573 --> 00:00:32,973 Speaker 3: It's that's nice ey a little bit sparks. I recognize 5 00:00:32,973 --> 00:00:37,613 Speaker 3: the voice friend of the show Big Wronger. It's called 6 00:00:37,733 --> 00:00:40,053 Speaker 3: It's Like Summertime. It's a new song from her. I 7 00:00:40,093 --> 00:00:42,733 Speaker 3: think she's writing an album, producing an album. It's going 8 00:00:42,773 --> 00:00:44,933 Speaker 3: to be released relatively soon. So very nice to get 9 00:00:44,933 --> 00:00:48,093 Speaker 3: some new Kiwi music to our ears, amongst the Taylor 10 00:00:48,133 --> 00:00:52,653 Speaker 3: swift mania that has been unleashed upon the world twenty 11 00:00:52,653 --> 00:00:54,333 Speaker 3: two to ten on News Talks, you'd be thanks to 12 00:00:54,333 --> 00:00:56,413 Speaker 3: your text, Jack. I've just sent Slinky Malinky to my 13 00:00:56,413 --> 00:00:59,813 Speaker 3: grandson in Japan, says mass Her. Nice work. My favorite 14 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:02,933 Speaker 3: kids Lindley Dodd book was My cat likes to hide 15 00:01:02,973 --> 00:01:05,493 Speaker 3: in boxes. It has so much tape on it, says. 16 00:01:05,533 --> 00:01:09,093 Speaker 3: So it's how those books they sort of you they 17 00:01:09,093 --> 00:01:11,173 Speaker 3: take on another quality are when they've been they've been 18 00:01:11,173 --> 00:01:13,013 Speaker 3: read so many times and they're a bit tatty. In 19 00:01:13,053 --> 00:01:15,733 Speaker 3: the corners are all kind of you know, dog eared, 20 00:01:16,013 --> 00:01:18,493 Speaker 3: and yeah, you've got little bits of tape holding things together. 21 00:01:18,533 --> 00:01:20,533 Speaker 3: It's a real it's like a sign of love. Strangely 22 00:01:20,653 --> 00:01:23,373 Speaker 3: enough time to get your film picks for this weekend. 23 00:01:23,613 --> 00:01:26,653 Speaker 3: Francisca Rudkin is our film reviewer. She's got two movies 24 00:01:26,693 --> 00:01:29,733 Speaker 3: to tell us about More Dinner, Good morning. I'm looking 25 00:01:29,733 --> 00:01:31,613 Speaker 3: forward to your thoughts on this first one This Morning, 26 00:01:32,173 --> 00:01:35,413 Speaker 3: starring The Rock. This is something a little bit different 27 00:01:35,493 --> 00:01:38,373 Speaker 3: from Dwayne Johnson. This is the Smashing Machine. 28 00:01:42,093 --> 00:01:44,973 Speaker 2: Well, have you ever heard of the Ultimate Fighting Championship 29 00:01:45,053 --> 00:01:49,733 Speaker 2: the UFC. That's the bloody thing they're trying to ban. 30 00:01:50,013 --> 00:01:51,493 Speaker 3: Do you hate each other when you fight? 31 00:01:52,693 --> 00:01:53,493 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. 32 00:01:56,253 --> 00:01:59,053 Speaker 3: Right, that's the Smashing Machine. Tell us about it, Francisca. 33 00:01:59,413 --> 00:02:02,333 Speaker 2: This is by Bennie Saftie, who often works with his brother. 34 00:02:02,493 --> 00:02:07,653 Speaker 2: He's a director who is responsible for Uncut Gems, which 35 00:02:07,653 --> 00:02:09,453 Speaker 2: puts sort of Adam Sandler in a role, but we 36 00:02:09,453 --> 00:02:12,053 Speaker 2: didn't really kind of expect to see him in as well. 37 00:02:12,093 --> 00:02:14,613 Speaker 2: So he's very good at kind of doing the unexpected 38 00:02:14,653 --> 00:02:16,453 Speaker 2: a little bit in films, and this is a sports 39 00:02:16,453 --> 00:02:19,093 Speaker 2: film which does do things a little bit differently. It's 40 00:02:19,413 --> 00:02:22,373 Speaker 2: very much an observational film rather than immersive. Like a 41 00:02:22,453 --> 00:02:24,933 Speaker 2: lot of the times when we have stories about sports people, 42 00:02:25,253 --> 00:02:27,293 Speaker 2: they want to bring us into their lives, take us 43 00:02:27,293 --> 00:02:29,453 Speaker 2: into the sport and even just a lot of the 44 00:02:29,453 --> 00:02:32,573 Speaker 2: time when you're watching the fighting scenes, which are really 45 00:02:32,613 --> 00:02:36,893 Speaker 2: great in this film, they're from outside of the ring 46 00:02:37,053 --> 00:02:39,933 Speaker 2: or up above, like we sort of almost view it 47 00:02:40,093 --> 00:02:44,413 Speaker 2: like a fan really great soundtrack. Film only covers a 48 00:02:44,413 --> 00:02:47,053 Speaker 2: few years from nineteen ninety seven onwards, and it's a 49 00:02:47,093 --> 00:02:50,333 Speaker 2: story of Mark Kerr, who is not a very well 50 00:02:50,373 --> 00:02:53,613 Speaker 2: known but was kind of one of the first big 51 00:02:54,493 --> 00:02:58,853 Speaker 2: MMA USC fighters an American. He made this huge contribution 52 00:02:59,013 --> 00:03:01,213 Speaker 2: kind of to the sport and things. This is actually 53 00:03:01,213 --> 00:03:03,693 Speaker 2: based on a documentary about Mark Kurd that was released 54 00:03:03,693 --> 00:03:06,773 Speaker 2: in two thousand and two, something very very close to 55 00:03:07,693 --> 00:03:12,573 Speaker 2: Danne Johnson's heart. He'd wanted to kind of make this 56 00:03:12,653 --> 00:03:15,213 Speaker 2: film and it is a big step in a different 57 00:03:15,213 --> 00:03:18,093 Speaker 2: direction for him. This is very much a dramatic role 58 00:03:18,173 --> 00:03:21,053 Speaker 2: compared to the normal action comedy films which we see 59 00:03:21,133 --> 00:03:24,293 Speaker 2: him in often, and he's had a lot of help 60 00:03:24,293 --> 00:03:28,453 Speaker 2: getting into this character thanks to hair and makeup. They've 61 00:03:28,453 --> 00:03:30,733 Speaker 2: done twenty two prosthetics. They've kind of changed the way 62 00:03:30,773 --> 00:03:33,933 Speaker 2: he looks and that's contributed to him, how you know, 63 00:03:34,093 --> 00:03:36,213 Speaker 2: sort of disappearing into the role of it, because when 64 00:03:36,253 --> 00:03:39,373 Speaker 2: you look like the rock, it's kind of hard to disappear, 65 00:03:40,013 --> 00:03:41,693 Speaker 2: and of course he's picked a film which is in 66 00:03:41,733 --> 00:03:44,333 Speaker 2: his wheelhouse. It is about fighting, it's about wrestling. It's 67 00:03:44,373 --> 00:03:46,533 Speaker 2: kind of the world that he's come from, and I 68 00:03:46,533 --> 00:03:48,613 Speaker 2: think that that was a really sensible move for him 69 00:03:48,613 --> 00:03:51,173 Speaker 2: if he wants to step into a dramatic role. There 70 00:03:51,213 --> 00:03:53,333 Speaker 2: is a lot of hype around this performance about this 71 00:03:53,493 --> 00:03:56,293 Speaker 2: being a great performance Jack, and I wonder whether people 72 00:03:56,333 --> 00:04:00,813 Speaker 2: are a little confused that by doing something different, they've 73 00:04:00,933 --> 00:04:03,973 Speaker 2: equated that to it being a great performance, rather than 74 00:04:04,013 --> 00:04:07,013 Speaker 2: looking at the performance itself, which is good. But I 75 00:04:07,013 --> 00:04:09,253 Speaker 2: did see him acting at times and I was just like, 76 00:04:09,413 --> 00:04:11,893 Speaker 2: this is really good. He can do this. He absolutely 77 00:04:11,973 --> 00:04:14,213 Speaker 2: has the confidence to do more dramatic roles, but I'm 78 00:04:14,253 --> 00:04:17,653 Speaker 2: not sure it's great anyway. Emily Blunt is worth come 79 00:04:17,733 --> 00:04:20,973 Speaker 2: and she is absolutely fantastic. It's basically the story. This 80 00:04:21,013 --> 00:04:22,693 Speaker 2: is a period of time when there aren't a lot 81 00:04:22,693 --> 00:04:26,733 Speaker 2: of regulations. The fighting is pretty brutal, the bodies get 82 00:04:26,733 --> 00:04:29,773 Speaker 2: beaten up quite badly. He takes some opioids to prevent it, 83 00:04:29,773 --> 00:04:31,773 Speaker 2: gets a bit addicted, has quite a traxit relation with 84 00:04:31,813 --> 00:04:34,253 Speaker 2: his girlfriend, and kind of comes out the other side. 85 00:04:34,453 --> 00:04:40,533 Speaker 2: Not actually a hugely complicated sports story. It's quite a 86 00:04:40,573 --> 00:04:42,973 Speaker 2: familiar sort of story. And all I could think of 87 00:04:43,013 --> 00:04:45,333 Speaker 2: when I was watching this was what about Mark Hunt 88 00:04:45,853 --> 00:04:48,493 Speaker 2: New Zealanders. If you actually do want an MMA, you 89 00:04:48,533 --> 00:04:51,573 Speaker 2: know U rec story, then make the story about New 90 00:04:51,653 --> 00:04:54,693 Speaker 2: Zealand and Mark Hunt and the documentary that was made 91 00:04:54,733 --> 00:04:58,173 Speaker 2: The Fight of his Life. Now, that is a story 92 00:04:58,293 --> 00:05:02,813 Speaker 2: about overcoming adversity and complexities and things like that, and 93 00:05:02,813 --> 00:05:04,573 Speaker 2: that was just always in the back of my mind. 94 00:05:04,853 --> 00:05:07,173 Speaker 2: So look, yep, it's really good. I think. You know, 95 00:05:07,373 --> 00:05:10,733 Speaker 2: I'm not a huge usc MMA fan. I'm not really 96 00:05:10,773 --> 00:05:14,053 Speaker 2: interested watching men smack each other in the face and 97 00:05:14,053 --> 00:05:16,973 Speaker 2: the head repeatedly, So you know, I went out of 98 00:05:16,973 --> 00:05:19,293 Speaker 2: curiosity to see these people in these roles. I think 99 00:05:19,333 --> 00:05:21,453 Speaker 2: if you're probably interested in the sport, that it might 100 00:05:21,493 --> 00:05:22,533 Speaker 2: hold a little bit more appeal. 101 00:05:22,733 --> 00:05:25,213 Speaker 3: Fair enough. Yeah, no, that's that's two of us on 102 00:05:25,253 --> 00:05:28,653 Speaker 3: that front. That's the Smashing Machine starring the Rock. It 103 00:05:28,693 --> 00:05:30,693 Speaker 3: does look at the very least looks interesting, and you 104 00:05:30,733 --> 00:05:34,253 Speaker 3: know what, it's good. I thought Uncut Gems was just 105 00:05:34,293 --> 00:05:37,213 Speaker 3: like one of the best films of the last few years. 106 00:05:37,253 --> 00:05:39,533 Speaker 3: So he really difficult to watch. You don't want to 107 00:05:39,573 --> 00:05:40,893 Speaker 3: watch that? Just before you got to be because it's 108 00:05:40,893 --> 00:05:42,933 Speaker 3: st of like, oh, I feel really anxious. Great, we've 109 00:05:42,933 --> 00:05:43,653 Speaker 3: got the film for you. 110 00:05:44,013 --> 00:05:45,973 Speaker 2: But this is a bit slower. 111 00:05:46,453 --> 00:05:46,653 Speaker 1: Yeah. 112 00:05:46,853 --> 00:05:49,693 Speaker 2: Nice, Yeah, no, I love the way it's been made. Yeah, 113 00:05:50,013 --> 00:05:51,493 Speaker 2: it's good. It's good, very good. 114 00:05:51,533 --> 00:05:54,093 Speaker 3: So that's the smashing Machine that's showing in cinemas right now. 115 00:05:54,173 --> 00:05:58,253 Speaker 3: Something completely different, The Teacher who Promised the Sea. 116 00:05:58,573 --> 00:06:00,373 Speaker 2: See. This is a Spanish film and it's based on 117 00:06:00,413 --> 00:06:02,333 Speaker 2: a true story and it kicks off in the present 118 00:06:02,773 --> 00:06:06,653 Speaker 2: when a mass grave is discovered from the Spanish Civil War. 119 00:06:06,853 --> 00:06:09,253 Speaker 2: It's unearthed, and there is a woman who has been 120 00:06:09,293 --> 00:06:13,493 Speaker 2: trying to find her great grandfather for her grandfather who 121 00:06:13,733 --> 00:06:17,333 Speaker 2: is not doing so well, and so she's sort of 122 00:06:17,373 --> 00:06:19,333 Speaker 2: been on this mission to try and find what happened 123 00:06:19,333 --> 00:06:21,213 Speaker 2: to him and how he went missing during the war, 124 00:06:21,853 --> 00:06:23,653 Speaker 2: and he's thought to be in this area. So she's 125 00:06:23,693 --> 00:06:26,973 Speaker 2: contacted by the team who have unearthed this mass grave 126 00:06:27,013 --> 00:06:28,973 Speaker 2: and she's brought down to the area and she starts 127 00:06:29,013 --> 00:06:34,293 Speaker 2: to meet locals who can remember her grandfather and also 128 00:06:34,493 --> 00:06:37,413 Speaker 2: this teacher who came to their small village and took 129 00:06:38,133 --> 00:06:40,693 Speaker 2: him in and looked after him because his father had 130 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:45,933 Speaker 2: been taken. And so we sort of learn about this 131 00:06:46,093 --> 00:06:51,053 Speaker 2: gorgeous man, this teacher who wanted his children to be 132 00:06:51,453 --> 00:06:54,453 Speaker 2: wanted his students to be curious, and he wanted them 133 00:06:54,493 --> 00:06:56,533 Speaker 2: to be children in this very difficult time, you know, 134 00:06:56,733 --> 00:06:59,733 Speaker 2: instead of going with non farms. He wanted them to 135 00:06:59,933 --> 00:07:02,813 Speaker 2: learn and things. But he was very outspoken about the 136 00:07:02,933 --> 00:07:06,293 Speaker 2: right wing regime. So look, this is a it's a 137 00:07:06,693 --> 00:07:08,693 Speaker 2: one of those sort of bit of sweet stories because 138 00:07:08,693 --> 00:07:12,213 Speaker 2: it's really beautiful and it reflects the country coming to 139 00:07:12,253 --> 00:07:14,213 Speaker 2: grips with its past. I mean, there are a lot 140 00:07:14,213 --> 00:07:16,293 Speaker 2: of people all over Spain who are still trying to 141 00:07:16,293 --> 00:07:18,533 Speaker 2: work out what happened to their loved ones. But there 142 00:07:18,573 --> 00:07:23,693 Speaker 2: it's also got this very respectful it's solemn, and it's 143 00:07:23,693 --> 00:07:26,493 Speaker 2: got a sadness to it, but it is also lovely 144 00:07:26,533 --> 00:07:30,413 Speaker 2: to see this impact, how this impact actually lingered on 145 00:07:30,453 --> 00:07:33,533 Speaker 2: the students, And it's interesting. Some will do not want 146 00:07:33,533 --> 00:07:36,613 Speaker 2: to hold onto those memories because of guilt and other issues. 147 00:07:36,733 --> 00:07:40,333 Speaker 2: Other people celebrate and remember him for who he was. 148 00:07:40,373 --> 00:07:42,373 Speaker 2: So pretty fascinating, lovely little story. 149 00:07:42,453 --> 00:07:45,453 Speaker 3: Okay, cool, Well, you certainly give us a range this morning. 150 00:07:45,573 --> 00:07:49,613 Speaker 3: So that's the teacher who promised the sea that's showing 151 00:07:49,613 --> 00:07:52,893 Speaker 3: and cinemas too, that's a Spanish film, and The Smashing 152 00:07:52,933 --> 00:07:55,293 Speaker 3: Machine is the one starring The Rock. All of the 153 00:07:55,373 --> 00:07:57,933 Speaker 3: details for those movies will be up on the News 154 00:07:58,013 --> 00:07:59,413 Speaker 3: talk Z'B website. 155 00:07:59,933 --> 00:08:03,053 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 156 00:08:03,133 --> 00:08:06,213 Speaker 1: to News talks' b from nine Am, saturday or follow 157 00:08:06,253 --> 00:08:07,893 Speaker 1: the podcast On. iHeartRadio