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Speaker 1: Uk down run a little morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Goodbylling to you, mate.

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Speaker 1: When I'm watching Kia, not Kiya Istarma, Rishi Sunk, I'll

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Speaker 1: have to get used to Kiya Stama's name, giving he's

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Speaker 1: going to win. But when I'm not watching Rushi Sunk

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Speaker 1: this morning saying I'm a bit worried about him a supermajority.

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Speaker 1: I don't want British voters walking into a supermajority. Is

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Speaker 1: that Rishi essentially saying I know I've lost, just don't

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Speaker 1: make it that bad.

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Speaker 2: Partly, it's also a Kally suggestion that those people who

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Speaker 2: think they're bought of the conservatives, but I'm quite with labor,

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Speaker 2: and there's an awful one of those who's saying to them,

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Speaker 2: be careful what you wished for and be careful what

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Speaker 2: you vote for on Thursday, because a later majority of

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Speaker 2: two hundred and forty children, which is what the problem

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Speaker 2: so roughly saying, will be the case, would be a

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Speaker 2: free cart for Suki Stama to do whatever he wanted

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Speaker 2: for the next five years, whereas something a bit tighter

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Speaker 2: might put him under a constraint. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's a bad strategy.

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Speaker 1: What about the strategy that we're soft on immigration. Let's

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Speaker 1: look at France, Let's look at Germany, Let's look at Italy,

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Speaker 1: Let's look at the European vote. They're all moving to

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Speaker 1: the right. That means a clamp down on immigration. We're

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Speaker 1: the soft target here in Britain. Does that potentially play

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Speaker 1: to people's fears?

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Speaker 2: Yes it does, Yes it does. But unfortunately for Rishi,

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Speaker 2: of course, it plays into the hands of reform who

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Speaker 2: have I think some time ago plateaued in the Poles

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Speaker 2: and are now well down and where they were. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: any mention of immigration raises the reform stature a little bit.

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Speaker 2: My guess as we are at the moment heading into

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days of campaigning, is that Labor

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Speaker 2: is well well ahead, and the Poles would support that

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Speaker 2: that they're well ahead, and most of the Poles have

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Speaker 2: just two hundred auto majority. My guess again, and we've

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Speaker 2: talked about this before, Mike, is that this is underestimating

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Speaker 2: both a shy Tory vote and also as rich is,

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Speaker 2: Sunek was alluding to those people who do not wish

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Speaker 2: Labor to be given a carpe blanche. So I suspect

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Speaker 2: it will be smaller than the majority that's been predicted.

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Speaker 2: And I spoke to a top Tory at the weekend

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Speaker 2: he said his postal votes, which he had a look at.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that was legally or illegally. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to drop him in it. We're about the

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Speaker 2: safe as usual.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: The polls always need to be taken with a pinch

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Speaker 2: of salt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what I was going to ask about the polls. One,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot odd poles. Do people in Britain see

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Speaker 1: them as one consistent and are they broadly speaking trusted.

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Speaker 2: No, they're not, and they're not trusted for a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of reasons, which some of them sociological and demographic,

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Speaker 2: some of them you know, the shy Tory vote. I

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Speaker 2: suspect they're still givenly the venom towards the Conservative Party nationally.

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Speaker 2: I suspect there are still a large number of people

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Speaker 2: who are going to vote Conservative on July the fourth,

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Speaker 2: but don't want to advertise the fact to polsters or

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Speaker 2: to anyone else, you know. And that is one of

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Speaker 2: the things which won them the election in twenty fifteen

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Speaker 2: and massively won them the election in twenty nineteen. The

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Speaker 2: shy Tory vote, so again, I think we're in the

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Speaker 2: same position as we were a week ago. That you

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Speaker 2: know there are three or four days to go. It's

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Speaker 2: labors to lose, but they can lose. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that the Tories will win a majority, but I've talked

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Speaker 2: to a few tours. You think a hug Parliament isn't

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Speaker 2: off the agenda entirely. I think that's wish for thinking.

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Speaker 1: All right, will you get another chance on Thursday morning,

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Speaker 1: of course, which is election die, but let's get you

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Speaker 1: revival for frerage. So was it initially a deliance? He

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Speaker 1: comes in, he leads I'm not running. I am running.

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Speaker 1: Everyone goes nuts. A few of us people make Dixon themselves.

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Speaker 1: They are now suspended. Has it sort of all blown

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Speaker 1: up a little bit?

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Speaker 2: I think it has, and he's made too bad mistakes.

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Speaker 2: I think the first of them he came in and

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Speaker 2: the reform vote jumped ten percent. It did in my

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Speaker 2: constituency where I'm standing. It just jumped up. But since

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Speaker 2: then it's he's been knocked firstly by his criticisms of

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Speaker 2: our support for Ukraine in the war in the against

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Speaker 2: a Russian invasion. That's hurt him, and also I think

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Speaker 2: also his comments about the right wing alliance in France

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Speaker 2: which is about to win those elections where he deligrates them,

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Speaker 2: and so do any of that plays terribly well with

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Speaker 2: the British audience. And I think reformers probably peaked and

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Speaker 2: we'll probably end up with about fifteen to sixty percent

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Speaker 2: of the vote, probably when it comes to the polling

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Speaker 2: itself in constituencies six percent and maybe Nigel will win

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Speaker 2: and two or three others and that's about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we will reconvene Thursday, New Zealand time, which will

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Speaker 1: be Wednesday night in Britain. Of course, Rods standing and

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Speaker 1: will give you all the details of that elector because

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Speaker 1: we've been building up in time. But he is back

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