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Speaker 2: Or it's Ryan Bridge on Hither Duperice Ellen Drive with

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, seven after four Wednesday afternoon. Great to have

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Speaker 3: slight pause. Thank you, Donald Trump. We'll look at that

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Speaker 3: the guy who was rescued by the Defense Force and

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Speaker 3: the tattahdoers, Trisherson and Sainzo on the huddle tonight and

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Speaker 3: Axe Simon Court has got some new crazy consent nonsense

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Speaker 3: to share with us. After six o'clock here on news Talk,

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Speaker 3: said b Ryan Bridge. When there's a job to be done,

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Speaker 3: Out we'd tryed to deliver some lovely old Ducker weekly

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you? I was pleased today to hear given

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Speaker 3: I think it's quite simple. They should get the welfare

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Speaker 3: this project to bring back the extinct moa, and it's

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Speaker 3: next decade. I spoke to the company's CEO on Herald

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Speaker 3: These things are massive, three and a half meters tall.

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Speaker 3: be exactly the moa. It's going to be a cousin

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Speaker 5: Here he is, let's continue to build and build a

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Speaker 3: Professor Phillips Siddon, University of Otago Zoology Department with me

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Speaker 3: So the cousin, we mack up the cousin by doing it.

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Speaker 4: Now mo why wouldn't you go for moha? And which

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Speaker 3: It is four seventeen. Trump throwing his toys again and around.

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Speaker 3: Tariff's threatening two hundred percent on pharmaceuticals, fifty percent on

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Speaker 6: We do against the Tigers, and the Warriors have already

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Speaker 3: Twenty five minutes after fourth Brich. Now you'll be pleased

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Speaker 3: to know about this one. This is a Barbie representation matters,

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon twenty five away from five year on news talks,

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Speaker 3: Barbie's bringing out a new line, type one diabetes Barbie.

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Speaker 3: Finally, there's now a highway in the UAE that can

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Speaker 3: Dan Michison is a US correspondent. Dan, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: What's the latest in Texas?

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Speaker 10: As you mentioned just a moment ago on the world wires,

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Speaker 3: Now that's the new thing, Ryan. The best is divorced.

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Speaker 3: dolls or toys that represent those with disabilities. Isn't that

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Speaker 3: just heartbreaking and warming all at the same time? So

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I guess there is a market for it. Barbie, well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Barbie's in business, been in business for decades.

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Speaker 3: They know what they're doing, don't they eighteen minutes away

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Speaker 3: from five news talks there b will get to Parliament next.

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Speaker 2: Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payment.

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Speaker 3: Certainty newalks there be sixteen away from five. After five

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Speaker 3: the OCR decision will break it down then right now,

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Speaker 3: Jason Walls from Parliament. Hey Jason, good afternoon, Ryan jasindra Ad.

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Speaker 3: And so she's willing to provide evidence to the COVID committee.

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Speaker 3: Does that mean at ten? Does that mean zoomed?

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Speaker 1: Does?

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Speaker 3: What does it mean?

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Speaker 1: Do we know?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the exact question that we have.

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Speaker 11: There was two interesting parts to the statement that she

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Speaker 11: gave to the Post. The first was if asked to

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Speaker 11: So we know this from Thomas Coglin's reporting that Dern

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Speaker 11: hasn't been formally asked to appear before the inquiry. There

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Speaker 11: there is hearings this week, but there's a more sort

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Speaker 11: of in August where there's a part where they're expected

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Speaker 11: to sort of bring in the key decision makers and

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Speaker 11: senior public and civil servants. And that's where she were

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Speaker 11: to would appear if she were if she was going

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Speaker 11: to so the Commission said in a statement, no decisions

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Speaker 11: have been made by the Commissioner about who will be appearing,

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Speaker 11: So we will have to wait and see if they

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Speaker 11: actually do ask her. And you know, I'm with you here,

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Speaker 11: I think that they probably should. The second part of

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Speaker 11: her statement is that she has every intention of providing evidence,

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Speaker 11: and you quite rightly latch onto that because what we

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Speaker 11: know from Chris Hipkins is what he told Kerry Woodham

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Speaker 11: yes today, is that you'd be providing responses to questions

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Speaker 11: that the committee has and that could be written responses.

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Speaker 11: So the question is, you know, if she were to apply,

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Speaker 11: say that she is fronting up, would she be doing

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Speaker 11: it in person or via zoom or would she just

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Speaker 11: be answering these questions. And I'll tell you one person

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Speaker 11: who has made their opinion clear on this, and that's

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Speaker 11: Nicola Willis.

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Speaker 12: Well, look, it'll be up to the Royal Commission to

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Speaker 12: decide whether to invite her. But if she were invited,

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Speaker 12: I can't see why she wouldn't want to put her

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Speaker 12: side of the story calling on them to ask her.

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Speaker 12: And no, I wouldn't be appropriate for me to make

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Speaker 12: that call on them. That will be their decision to make.

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Speaker 12: I'm simply observing that I can't see why you wouldn't

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Speaker 12: front up to tell your side of the story if

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Speaker 12: you were given that opportunity.

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Speaker 3: And I agree with it.

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Speaker 11: I think she's bang on. Why wouldn't she want a

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Speaker 11: front up to tell her side of the story.

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Speaker 3: Mikola Willis says she's going to sit down with Miles

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Speaker 3: Harold why it.

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Speaker 11: Was an interesting It was an interesting throwaway in a

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Speaker 11: press conference that she gave earlier. This afternoon, have a listener.

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Speaker 12: I will be meeting with the Frontier chief executive and

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Speaker 12: the next while to talk to him about what we

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Speaker 12: can do to make sure that New Zealanders have affordable cheese,

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Speaker 12: milk and butter.

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Speaker 11: And I thought this was quite fascinating, given the price

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Speaker 11: of milk is determined by the GDT auction and other

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Speaker 11: international factors. So I actually put this to Willis and

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Speaker 11: here's what she said.

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Speaker 12: Look, I accept at a high level that that's the

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Speaker 12: case when there's a lot of demand for dairy products,

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Speaker 12: the price internationally goes up, and that's reflected here at home.

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Speaker 12: My question is about why sometimes we're seeing cheaper prices

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Speaker 12: than British or Australian supermarkets, and I'm interested to understand

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Speaker 12: how much of that is about the lack of supermarket

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Speaker 12: competition here and how much of that is about the

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Speaker 12: prices that Fonterra is passing through. So those are discussions

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Speaker 12: that I'm continuing because I know it bothers. Kiwi's you know,

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Speaker 12: the cheese gone, the butter on your toast, these are

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Speaker 12: Kiwi essentials.

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Speaker 11: So it really sounds like she's yet again having another

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Speaker 11: crack at the supermarkets here and getting some information on that.

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Speaker 11: And you know she's She's gonne after the supermarkets quite

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Speaker 11: a lot during her tenure as Finance Minister. She ruled

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Speaker 11: out any subsidies. But David Seymour meanwhile was on the

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Speaker 11: country saying this.

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Speaker 13: And thank god for Millcote nearly ten bucks and you know,

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Speaker 13: sheep and beef prices where they are, because otherwise would

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Speaker 13: have a very different story.

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Speaker 3: Which kind of highlights the double edged sword here.

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Speaker 11: Higher dairy prices maybe hard for Kimi consumers, but you

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Speaker 11: know the farmers aren't complaining.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not right. Finally, the Regulatory Standards Bill's Select Committee hearings,

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Speaker 3: You've got a quote of the day for us, Jason, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 11: There's been so many submissions and I've listened into a few,

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Speaker 11: and this one comes from the Woke Lesbian Symposium.

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Speaker 3: So again that's not.

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Speaker 11: Me being facetious. That is actually the name of the group.

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Speaker 11: Here's how Cameron Brewer introduced them this morning.

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Speaker 14: Now that brings us to the Woke Lisbo Symposium. This

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Speaker 14: did I have to say this. You were my nomination

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Speaker 14: and I'm sure others nominated you as well to speak

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Speaker 14: for me. It was purely out of intrigue, so please

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Speaker 14: don't disappoint.

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Speaker 11: And they didn't disappoint. I ever listened to what they

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Speaker 11: had to say.

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Speaker 15: Trickle down is like pissing on people and telling them

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Speaker 15: it's rain. As the work Lesbos Symposium, we recommend that

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Speaker 15: you tell Parliament to ditch this monstrosity.

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Speaker 11: I just love New Zealand's democracy. Anyone can submit apparently,

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Speaker 11: So and there they are the walk Lesboel's good on

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Speaker 11: your walk, Lesbe's.

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Speaker 3: It's great fun. Thanks Jason, Jason Wall's Parliament. It's eleven

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Speaker 3: away from five. Goodness me, Ryan Bridge, now just on

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Speaker 3: the butter because I get annoyed and sometimes Nikola willis

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Speaker 3: you think I know she's playing the political game. She's

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Speaker 3: playing the pr game. I will bash the supermarkets, we'll

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Speaker 3: bash the banks. Because cost the living. Sigh. Right now,

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Speaker 3: she's going to bash fon Terra, one of our most

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Speaker 3: successful companies, our biggest exporter. I mean, come on, Nikola,

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Speaker 3: you're better than this. We export a hell of a

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Speaker 3: lot more to the world than the Australian student. So

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Speaker 3: what about the difference in price and butter between here

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Speaker 3: and Australia. We export a hell of a lot more

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Speaker 3: to the world than the Aussies do. In twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: they exported nine tons. We exported four hundred forty tons

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Speaker 3: of butter. They exported two percent of the quantity that

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Speaker 3: we did, and that means that our price is way

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Speaker 3: more susceptible to the international market price. We export most

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Speaker 3: of our butter, we pay the international price. Australia, on

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Speaker 3: the other hand, eats a lot more of its own

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Speaker 3: and exports less. That's the reason for it. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: She's on a mission. Obviously, they have identified she's a

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Speaker 3: very smart political operator, and she has identified that cost

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Speaker 3: of living is a problem for national and her solution

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Speaker 3: is to get the biggest jackhammer a sledgehammer she can find,

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Speaker 3: and just go after the food producers and the suppliers

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Speaker 3: and the supermarkets ten to five Newstalk SETB.

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Speaker 2: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast organized crime.

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Speaker 3: The last report warned that corruption is getting worse.

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Speaker 15: The report this time reckons that we can tackle us

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Speaker 15: by getting our communities involved.

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Speaker 6: Steve Side as the chair of Ministerial Advisory Group for

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Speaker 6: Organized Crime, the first point is.

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Speaker 16: To treat the community as part of the solution, getting

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Speaker 16: involved by giving them snational information that can use our

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Speaker 16: too many thinks it's a really good idea to let

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Speaker 16: the public, particularly in local communities, know what the real

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Speaker 16: problems of organized crime are for them and ways that

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Speaker 16: can identify that organized crime and work as a community

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Speaker 16: to try and support those who trying to break free

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Speaker 16: from bank customers of organized crime.

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Speaker 2: Either dupless Ellen on the mic, hosking Breakfast back tomorrow

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Speaker 2: at six am with Alvida retirement communities on news togs.

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Speaker 3: There'd be seven to five. Got some more goalers gold

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Speaker 3: for you. We'll get to that in a second right now. Though,

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Speaker 3: Trump lasting out at reporters today. They wanted to ask

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Speaker 3: about Epstein. They are so obsessed about Jeffrey Epstein over there,

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Speaker 3: aren't they? Yesterday? Justice Department announces no evidence that Epstein

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Speaker 3: kept a quote client list or that he was murdered. Basically,

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Speaker 3: he took his own life in prison. Trump didn't want

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Speaker 3: to talk more about it at all.

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Speaker 9: Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been

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Speaker 9: talked about for years. You're asking we have Texas, we

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Speaker 9: have this, we have all of the things, and are

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Speaker 9: people still talking about this guy? This creep that is unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: Do you want to waste the time and do you

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Speaker 9: feel like answering?

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Speaker 17: I don't mind answering.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on

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Speaker 9: at Epstein at a time like this where we're having

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Speaker 9: some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what

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Speaker 9: happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.

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Speaker 1: But you go ahead.

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Speaker 3: So that's Pam Bondie Blondie sitting next to him, and

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Speaker 3: she's been facing hate from the Mega supporters after giving

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Speaker 3: an interview on Fox earlier in the year. In that interview,

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Speaker 3: she was asked about the rumored client list.

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Speaker 2: The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

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Speaker 3: Well, that really happened.

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Speaker 17: It's sitting on my desk right now to review that's

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Speaker 17: been a directive by President Trump.

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Speaker 1: I'm reviewing that.

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Speaker 17: I'm reviewing JFK Fall's MLK. That's all in the process

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Speaker 17: of being reviewed because that was done at the directive

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Speaker 17: of the President from all of these agencies.

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Speaker 3: So have you seen.

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Speaker 4: Anything that you said, Oh, my gosh.

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Speaker 17: Not yet.

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Speaker 3: So now Pam Bondi says she actually wasn't talking about

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Speaker 3: reviewing the Epstein client list, but the Epstein file, which

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Speaker 3: is a totally different thing. Of course, I don't know

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Speaker 3: he's dead. Who cares, now, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's my feeling on the whole thing. But they're all

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Speaker 3: got their nickers and a twist in the mega movement

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Speaker 3: about this and have done for now a week five

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Speaker 3: away from five Bridge. The regional council, this is another

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Speaker 3: one bites the dust. The Waiicuta regional council cutting ties

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Speaker 3: with local government New Zealand because some counselors, some felt

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Speaker 3: unhappy with its left leaning bureaucrats. Not only that, but

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Speaker 3: it's cost and it's relevance to regional councils. So what's

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Speaker 3: the telly at now? It must be at least ten

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Speaker 3: that have pulled out. We spoke to Eastern Bay of

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Speaker 3: Plenty a couple of months back. They pulled out, Auckland

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Speaker 3: had pulled out. Wellington still there of course, because I

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Speaker 3: mean they need friends, don't they. When you know, when

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Speaker 3: you're desperate, you need friends. But that list must be dwindling,

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Speaker 3: and I wonder what happens to that organization as a result.

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Speaker 3: Does it dwindle too further? Nine two nine two the

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Speaker 3: number to text. Now this is interesting. This is from

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Speaker 3: the government. They've got a group looking at what happens

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Speaker 3: to your flood damaged home. If you build on land

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Speaker 3: you know is prone to flooding, and you knew that

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Speaker 3: before you built it, or you knew that before you

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Speaker 3: bought the property, should the government come in and save

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Speaker 3: the day if and when eventually it does flood. That's

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Speaker 3: the question that this group's been tasked with answering. And

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Speaker 3: their answer is quite brutal, but I'm behind it. I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you what that is after five o'clock. Also, we'll

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Speaker 3: look at the ocr NO movement today. When will it

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Speaker 3: move and what's it all got to do with Trump?

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Speaker 2: the full picture. Brian Bridge on hither duplicy allan drive

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Speaker 2: with one New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected. News talks.

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Speaker 3: It be good evening, get to seven a half to

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Speaker 3: five news talks at b Another goal is scandal, a

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Speaker 3: bottomless brunch and claims of racism. Get to that in

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Speaker 3: a second. Right now, the Reserve Bank keeping the OCR

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Speaker 3: on hold three point twenty five percent. A pause on

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Speaker 3: our way down the OCR ladder, you could say, Brad

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Speaker 3: Olson for metrics with us. Now, Hi, Brad, good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: So what is with the pause?

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Speaker 18: Well, it looks like the Reserve Bank is just a

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Speaker 18: bit cautious and being careful given all of the uncertainty

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Speaker 18: in the economy. Now you might think when I say uncertainty,

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Speaker 18: I mean the global ructions, tariffs and similar But actually

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Speaker 18: reading this statement from the Reserve Bank today, it seems

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Speaker 18: are just a little bit more cautious actually about the

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Speaker 18: likes of inflation, which you're seeing a few bits and

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Speaker 18: pieces starting to get a bit hotter a bit too quickly,

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Speaker 18: but also the uncertainty over New Zealand's economic recovery. We

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Speaker 18: had at the start of this year a good increase

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Speaker 18: in GDP up point eight percent, but economic indicators since

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Speaker 18: then have been a lot more challenging. And I think

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Speaker 18: that's where the Reserve Bank they just want another couple

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Speaker 18: of months of data to figure out where things are

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Speaker 18: going before they make their biggot next call over where

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Speaker 18: to next for interest rates.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean it's good for us, but to be fair

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Speaker 3: to them, we're a two and a half percent doesn't

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Speaker 3: take your much to notch up, and then you're close

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Speaker 3: to and you're almost touching, and then before you know it,

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Speaker 3: you're over.

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Speaker 18: Well that's basically what we did last time. We kept

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Speaker 18: looking at the inflationary numbers and saying, look, they're not

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Speaker 18: good at the moment, but you know what, looking for forward,

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Speaker 18: they'll be all right. And then by the time we

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Speaker 18: figured out that they weren't all right, that inflation was

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Speaker 18: more persistent, things had gotten out of hand. But I

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Speaker 18: think also for the Reserve Bank, they're also banking on

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Speaker 18: the fact that interst rates are still down quite a

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Speaker 18: lot from where they've already been. You know, we've seen

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Speaker 18: two point two five percentage points lopped off the OCR

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Speaker 18: over the last year and a bit. That means that

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Speaker 18: for a lot of people. Yes, interest rates are still

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Speaker 18: they might be paying those high rates, but they will

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Speaker 18: be refixing at some point over the second half of

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Speaker 18: this year. A lot of the heavy liftings being done,

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Speaker 18: but the Reserve Bank trying to now calibrate what's the

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Speaker 18: right point and to be fair, Ryan, they also reckon

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Speaker 18: that there is more to come. They were quite explicit

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Speaker 18: today that if things continue to evolve as they broadly expect,

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Speaker 18: that will give them more scope to continue to cut

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Speaker 18: the official cash rate this year. I just don't think

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Speaker 18: there's too much more left in that. There's probably only

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Speaker 18: a few more tweaks, maybe one or two cuts by

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Speaker 18: the end of this year.

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Speaker 3: Get us down to three two point seventy five something

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Speaker 3: like that. Brad. Appreciate you. Brad Olson, Infometrics, Principal Economist

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Speaker 3: nine after five, Ryan Bridge job seeker beneficiaries could soon

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Speaker 3: be sent to Tasman Marlborough to help with the cleanup

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Speaker 3: after the floods. They'll be paid to do things like

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Speaker 3: clear debris and repair buildings and waterways, et cetera. Craig

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Speaker 3: Churchill with MSD joins me Now, Hi, Craig, Hi, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: how's it going?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Good? Thank you? This sounds like a great idea, great initiative.

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Speaker 3: Have you had any takers at this point?

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Speaker 19: Thanks for your question, Ryan, Yes, it's a really great

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Speaker 19: initiative and something we've been using in past emergency response

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Speaker 19: to me invents and to answer case. And yes, we've

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Speaker 19: had a lot of interest to come and help clean

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Speaker 19: up the devastating impact in Tasman from job seekers, from

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Speaker 19: job seekers, people currently on job seeker benefit and actually

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Speaker 19: people just wanting to help the community that's been impacted.

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Speaker 3: Great. How many job seekers have you had you apply?

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Speaker 19: Look, I don't know exactly how many. I know there's

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Speaker 19: sort of been half a dozen that have been flagged

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Speaker 19: through to me before on ere but we currently have

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Speaker 19: six hundred work ready job seekers in Tasman, so there's

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Speaker 19: a lot of opportunity to get some people out to

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Speaker 19: help the community.

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Speaker 3: So you've got six hundred job seekers in the region

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Speaker 3: and six have put their hands up.

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Speaker 19: No, we only had six that's been flagged to me

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Speaker 19: so far, but I know our teams and service centers

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Speaker 19: have been working with job seekers that want to help,

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Speaker 19: and I know from the community meetings that I've been

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Speaker 19: attending over the last week there's been a lot of

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Speaker 19: interest by people, including our job seekers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's good. What about accommodation, transport and stuff of people,

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Speaker 3: if job seekers want to actually go there and do work,

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Speaker 3: do you provide help with that stuff?

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Speaker 19: We certainly do, although will be certainly targeting job seekers

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Speaker 19: that are willing to help in the area. So we

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Speaker 19: do have a lot of job seekers close to the area,

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Speaker 19: and we're talking motor wacre up tapware in Natomoti Valleys

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Speaker 19: and bright Water and Wakefield, so we'll be working for

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Speaker 19: those that are closest.

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Speaker 3: First, Craig, what happens if you know you've got six

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Speaker 3: hundred job seekers? What happens if there are only six

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Speaker 3: who actually put their hands up and do this. Does

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Speaker 3: that mean that the others really aren't seeking jobs?

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Speaker 8: A great question.

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Speaker 19: Look, we know from past experience and unfortunately we've had

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Speaker 19: a bit of practice at this with Marlborough and Bailer

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Speaker 19: on the West Coast. We've actually had a lot of

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Speaker 19: job seekers register interest to help and events like this,

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Speaker 19: and this is a significant event that's going to take

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Speaker 19: quite some time to recover from. People are really willing

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Speaker 19: to help, including a job seekers. They're often the first

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Speaker 19: to put their hand up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Craig, Well, hopefully you get that number

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Speaker 3: multiplies quickly, rapidly to meet the six hundred who are

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Speaker 3: obviously on the job seeker benefit. Right now, twelve minutes

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Speaker 3: after five on news talks.

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Speaker 1: There'd beg Brian Bridge.

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Speaker 3: Now, I said we'd get to Goldra's garment, and we are.

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Speaker 3: So this is a herald story. Golera's garment no longer

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Speaker 3: any peace. So we actually we shouldn't care. We should

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Speaker 3: just all walk away from this and forget about it.

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Speaker 3: And yet here we are slightly intrigued. What is it now?

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Speaker 3: Former Green Party MP Goaler's garment taken to social media

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Speaker 3: to call out an Auckland restaurant. So this is her

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Speaker 3: calling them out. She's alleging that has subjected her dining

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Speaker 3: group to gross treatment and canceled their booking midway through

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Speaker 3: a meal. However, the Italia restaurant on K Road has

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Speaker 3: claimed that Garaman's own behavior was lacking and the incident

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Speaker 3: has made him question offering the eateies wait for it,

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Speaker 3: bottomless brunch. It's the beginning of all bad stories. Obviously.

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Speaker 3: The owner says Garman had a little bit too much

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Speaker 3: to drink and didn't behave appropriately. That's all I can say.

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Speaker 3: She apparently holds up. This isn't her post. So they're

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Speaker 3: at lunch. She says, do not go to Italia. I mean,

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Speaker 3: first of all, as a former MP who says and

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Speaker 3: living in the area, who says, don't go this restaurant.

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Speaker 3: You know who's blacklisting restaurants, Well goalras Garment's doing it.

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Speaker 3: Don't go to this restaurant. We had the most gross

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Speaker 3: accepted even when I showed them the booking. Anyway, she says,

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Speaker 3: some incredible Mardi Pacifica and queer leaders were totally screwed

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Speaker 3: over mid brunch in the face of a written confirmation.

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Speaker 3: It was sad and it was a bleep and it

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Speaker 3: was not the cutting a happy copepper. And that'll be

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Speaker 3: happy ending for a Tatadoo tramper David Graham and his

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Speaker 3: dog Winnie. They found themselves on the multi day tramp

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Speaker 3: in the Tutadoro Rangers and freezing conditions had to be

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Speaker 3: of the night. No, lest this is Tuesday morning. David

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Speaker 3: Grahame's with me now, David, Good evening.

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Speaker 8: Good evening.

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Speaker 4: How's it going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good to have you on the show. How are

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Speaker 3: you feeling.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm feeling very good. Thank you. Sitting in my

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Speaker 20: last warm car in Lower hut here, it's yeah, it's

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Speaker 20: a good place to be.

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Speaker 3: Okay. First of all, why were you tramping when it

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Speaker 3: was so damned cold.

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Speaker 20: It's just the I suppose when you get up into

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Speaker 20: the mountains and you yeah, you get see the Lord's

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Speaker 20: creation from that kind of height, fifteen hundred meters, you

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Speaker 20: can see those sunsets. It's a pretty special place to be.

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Speaker 20: And there's yeah, there's almost nowhere else I'd rather be.

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Speaker 20: When when things are going to plan, for sure, and.

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Speaker 3: You were well, you were well prepared, you know, overnight gear,

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Speaker 3: all that stuff. When did you realize something was wrong?

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Speaker 20: So I realized I wasn't going to make it to

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Speaker 20: the buvy, and so with the cloud cover run, I decided, right,

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Speaker 20: I'll just pack up here.

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Speaker 3: For the night.

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Speaker 20: It was about I think about thirteen and a half, sorry,

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Speaker 20: thirteen hundred meters at that point, and then about nine

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Speaker 20: nine pm the cloud lifters and yeah, dropped a whole

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Speaker 20: bunch of jommy, which froze up pretty quick. When my

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Speaker 20: dog started shaking, I realized that it was yeah, the

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Speaker 20: temperature was pretty yeah, getting dropping pretty quick. And so

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Speaker 20: at that point I got in touch with the emergency services.

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Speaker 3: Probably a good call because this so you thought you'd

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Speaker 3: wait till the morning and then your sleeping bag freezing.

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Speaker 3: You know, things aren't looking good. So what how did

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Speaker 3: the rescue go? Just amazing?

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Speaker 20: And this is you know, I'm not a huge fan

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Speaker 20: of having you know, being on radio is getting caught

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Speaker 20: out like this, but I just the reason I said

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Speaker 20: yes to coming on on here is just to say

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Speaker 20: thank you to the New Zealand Defense Force and the police,

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Speaker 20: and they honestly just do such a good job and

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Speaker 20: they made it really simple. They were just absolutely superb,

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Speaker 20: so I couldn't thank them thank the more. I got

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Speaker 20: in touch with the with the police coordinator at about

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Speaker 20: two am and said, look, conditions getting pretty bad. I'm

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Speaker 20: really cold up here. A text that pretty well just

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Speaker 20: said that, and so they change from getting search and

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Speaker 20: rescue to come in, they do daylight rescues. So the

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Speaker 20: police officer in charge got in touch with nd DF

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Speaker 20: and they organized one of the force choppers to come in.

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Speaker 20: They arrived I think about four point thirty am. Once

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Speaker 20: the dog up first, which is good, that's the priorities.

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Speaker 20: Cute little kelpie, and they came back down and got me, yeah,

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Speaker 20: straight into a hot chopin and a crumpchy bar, which

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Speaker 20: was exactly what I needed to get my sugars back

881
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Speaker 20: up and feeling comfortable. But you're just, honestly just all

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Speaker 20: thanks to those those guys and girls that looked after me.

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Speaker 20: I really appreciate.

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Speaker 3: It well, and you're a very lucky guy. And as

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Speaker 3: you say, thanks to those rescuers who did the hard work.

886
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Speaker 3: David Graham rescued Tramper from the Tataders and a dog, Winnie,

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Speaker 3: both safe and well twenty one minutes after five, you're

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Speaker 3: on news Talk set B after five, So Brian Roach,

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Speaker 3: who's the Public Service Commissioner. They've done a survey of

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Speaker 3: all the public servants and a lot of them apparently

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Speaker 3: look around their office and think that person's not here

892
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Speaker 3: on merit, that person's not here on merit. In fact,

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Speaker 3: most of them think that they surrounded by people not

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Speaker 3: there on merit. So Brian Roach after five point thirty News.

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Speaker 2: TALKSB Informed Inside into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 3: News Talks, NB twenty five after five. The moa or moer,

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Speaker 3: if you're in the South Island and this case we are,

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Speaker 3: was a visionary bird well ahead of its time. Bringing

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Speaker 3: them back from extinction makes perfect sense. We'll be setting

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Speaker 3: them free. They can finally live their b ls, live

902
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Speaker 3: their best lives, spread their wings metaphorically of course, because

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Speaker 3: they don't actually have wings. But they'll be free in

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Speaker 3: this brave, new modern world. Firstly, they're vegan, so hip

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Speaker 3: and trendy box number one, big tick. Wait till they

906
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Speaker 3: try the incredible burger. That's the faux meet Burger. They

907
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Speaker 3: just will blow their minds after six hundred years of sleep.

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Speaker 3: The eggplant sandwiches with the vegan slow they're going to

909
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Speaker 3: love that. Wait for it, though they get woker. The

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Speaker 3: women are dominant one and a half times bigger than

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Speaker 3: the men. Did you know this is a true fact?

912
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Speaker 3: And two and a half times the weight. Very trendy

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Speaker 3: progressive box number two, tick number three. Turns out they

914
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Speaker 3: were quite oppressed back in the day. Victims you could

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Speaker 3: call them, also very trendy. Today hunted to extinction by

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Speaker 3: men with spears, slaughtered eaten, and you know what that means.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five lived experience, congratulations, Wait for the

918
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Speaker 3: Wellness podcast and the Oprah interview. And then there's the

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Speaker 3: obvious but awkward issue of being a bird with no wings,

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Speaker 3: a bird that can't fly? Can we so embarrassed by

921
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Speaker 3: this that they only come out at night in case

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Speaker 3: anyone notices this deformity? But more up to three and

923
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Speaker 3: a half meters tall in broad daylight, quite hard to miss.

924
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Speaker 3: It's you know, you can't hide behind a tree, can you?

925
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Speaker 3: You can't hide behind another bird. You're the biggest one

926
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Speaker 3: in the bush. I'll stick out like the Skytower anyway,

927
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Speaker 3: that'll be more fodder for the podcast, no doubt. So

928
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Speaker 3: to the More who we will soon raise from the dead.

929
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Speaker 3: Welcome to a brand new world. Welcome to the world

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Speaker 3: you deserved from the beginning.

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Speaker 21: Ryan Bridge twenty seven after five News Talk said be

932
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Speaker 21: we'll get to Sir Brian Roach and the huddle after Newson.

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Speaker 2: Put some Mason on the iHeart app and in your

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Speaker 2: car on your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on Hither

935
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Speaker 2: Duplessylan Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected. News

936
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Speaker 2: Talk said Bill.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember everything we.

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Speaker 2: Say, we said it.

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Speaker 1: It's so many that you where's hours?

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Speaker 22: You know what I mean?

941
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Speaker 3: It's twenty five away from six News Talks to b

942
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Speaker 3: We're going to get to the huddle in just the second.

943
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Speaker 3: Tricius and Mark Sainsbury will be with us.

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Speaker 15: Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine the mess when these new More get

946
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Speaker 3: hit by a car or a truck on our state highways?

947
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Speaker 3: Bad enough cleaning us, It's bad enough cleaning up the pookicko.

948
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Speaker 3: This text all the practical thoughts, all the practical thoughts

949
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Speaker 3: when look, when the mile come back, we have to act.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like when somebody comes to Earth from

951
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Speaker 3: out of space. You know, we come in peace. It's

952
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be one of those moments. So when it

953
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Speaker 3: when it wakes up and it comes out of its

954
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Speaker 3: little shell and the world's media is there, we have

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Speaker 3: to be nice, you know, we don't don't drive your

956
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Speaker 3: truck over the thing and just on the PERKICKO Ryan

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 13: I don't think I've ever managed to hit a pook

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Speaker 13: ecko when I'm driving. Maybe the texts will correct me

961
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Speaker 13: on this, but it seems like they always just dodder

962
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Speaker 13: around in the middle of the road, and it seems

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Speaker 13: like you're going to run the stupid thing over, but

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Speaker 13: somehow they always fly out of the way just at

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Speaker 13: the very last second.

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Speaker 8: Really annoying.

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Speaker 3: We've going to put some put the gas on, clearly,

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Speaker 3: just at the last minute, twenty four minutes away from

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Speaker 3: six Ryan Bridge. A survey of more than forty thousand

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Speaker 3: of our public servants has revealed some tough home truths.

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Speaker 3: Fewer than half are confident their colleagues were hired based

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Speaker 3: on merit. Yeah, four and five say staffing levels and

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Speaker 3: work volumes are a problem, and just fifty seven percent

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Speaker 3: think senior leaders articulate the direction and priorities of their organization. Well,

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Speaker 3: just one in three were happy with their pay. Sir

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Speaker 3: Brian Roach is the Public Service Commissioner. Sir Brian, Hello,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon. So what is this survey telling you.

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Speaker 8: The survey tells me that actually the state of the

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Speaker 8: public sector is pretty good. We've got some strong foundations

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Speaker 8: around our staff understanding yet that what they do makes

981
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Speaker 8: the difference MW zealand that integrity is important. So the

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Speaker 8: foundations are good, but we also have quite a bit

983
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Speaker 8: of homework to do and that there is a number

984
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Speaker 8: of issues they've highlighted that they would like us to

985
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Speaker 8: pay attention to around an efficient decision making, complicated business

986
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Speaker 8: processes for communications. So yeah, I think it's good and

987
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Speaker 8: it gives us a lot to get on with and

988
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Speaker 8: that's what we're going to do.

989
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Speaker 3: Four out of five say staffing levels and work volumes

990
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Speaker 3: are a problem. Is that in their heads or is

991
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Speaker 3: that real? Do we actually need more public servants?

992
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Speaker 8: I don't think we need more public servants and that's

993
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Speaker 8: not something I'll be focused on. I do think that's

994
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Speaker 8: how people feel, and I'm not going to be dismissedive

995
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Speaker 8: of it. So I need to get to understand is

996
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Speaker 8: that is the issue? Actually? What is our response? And

997
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 8: you know, I've said a number of times publicly and

998
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Speaker 8: we'll continue that there is scope to simplify and give

999
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Speaker 8: people more time to do the work they need. I

1000
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Speaker 8: think there are tools and techniques, including the introduction of AI,

1001
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Speaker 8: which will help people do their tasks, and that's what

1002
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Speaker 8: the government is committed to and that's what I want

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Speaker 8: to lead.

1004
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Speaker 3: What about this issue of merit, So I'm quite a

1005
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Speaker 3: shocking number, you know, forty four percent confident their colleagues

1006
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Speaker 3: will have hired based on merit. What will the rest

1007
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Speaker 3: hide on?

1008
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I was sort of shocked by that,

1009
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Speaker 8: and it's not something that I believe is true at

1010
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Speaker 8: the senior levels of the public service. I mean, there

1011
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Speaker 8: are a lot of levels here, So you know, I'm

1012
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Speaker 8: not once again, I'm not going to dismiss that because

1013
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Speaker 8: that's what people think, and I don't want to get

1014
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Speaker 8: into some form of deniability. Let's just work through the

1015
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Speaker 8: issues with them and find out whether that's true or not.

1016
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Speaker 8: I would be shripped and I'd be extremely disappointed if

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Speaker 8: that's actually factually.

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Speaker 3: Based did you ask or do you have any idea?

1019
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Speaker 3: Have you asked a question? If not hired on merit,

1020
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Speaker 3: then what they were hired on.

1021
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Speaker 8: I didn't ask that. That's not how it was structured.

1022
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Speaker 8: But you know the fact that they think that is

1023
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Speaker 8: in itself quite confronting because we pride ourselves in New

1024
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Speaker 8: Zealand generally in the public service, particularly that people get

1025
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Speaker 8: their jobs based on their skill and their merit.

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Speaker 3: Clearly they don't think that that's happening in the public service.

1027
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Speaker 3: That's a major problem.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not denying that, but we are going to

1029
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Speaker 8: have to address that. As I said, I'm very comfortable

1030
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Speaker 8: at the very senior levels that it is based on theirt,

1031
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 8: but there is a view in some of the levels

1032
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Speaker 8: down in the organizations that that's not always the case.

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Speaker 8: How do it's completely unacceptable?

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Speaker 3: How do you fix that? How do you fix that?

1035
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: Do you say, because you can't go around and say, well,

1036
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Speaker 3: you don't hire people based on that, do you? I

1037
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Speaker 3: mean you can't do the opposite.

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Speaker 8: No, but I mean ultimately hiring somebody as a matter

1039
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Speaker 8: of judgment, they have to have good technical skills and

1040
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Speaker 8: they need really good characters. So it's something I've reinforced

1041
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Speaker 8: to the chief executives. We do not want this perception

1042
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 8: that people are getting jobs on other than what they

1043
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Speaker 8: bring to the job and their ability to do the job.

1044
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Speaker 8: That goes to the very harder confidence and trust. It's

1045
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Speaker 8: not something that we want to be playing with.

1046
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Speaker 3: Just a third of them think they're paid enough. One

1047
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Speaker 3: third think they're paid enough. The average salary one hundred thousand,

1048
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 3: just over one hundred thousand dollars. Are they out of touch?

1049
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 8: I don't think they're out of touch. I've never been

1050
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 8: in a workplace where people don't think they should get

1051
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Speaker 8: paid more.

1052
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Speaker 3: Have you seen? Reality is that's quite a bad number

1053
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Speaker 3: of those that way.

1054
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Speaker 8: I think two thirds thinking that they are paid enough

1055
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Speaker 8: is good. One seats so they don't think they're being

1056
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Speaker 8: paid enough. Once again, I'm not going to sort of

1057
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Speaker 8: whitewash that away, but you know, we're in very tight

1058
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Speaker 8: fiscal constraint. We always want to pay people what they're

1059
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 8: with and I think for overwhelming majority we do. But

1060
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Speaker 8: as I said, I've never been in a workplace where

1061
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Speaker 8: there's an element of people who don't think they should

1062
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Speaker 8: get paid more.

1063
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Speaker 3: So Brian just finding sixty five thousand public servants. How

1064
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 3: many do you think ideally, once you've finished your reforms,

1065
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: once your fine, that we would need.

1066
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Speaker 8: I actually don't have that number. I haven't got a number.

1067
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Speaker 8: But what I do know is that with some greater

1068
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Speaker 8: sort of restructuring, which I know people don't want to hear,

1069
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Speaker 8: but the reality is we've got too many agencies, we

1070
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Speaker 8: need to reduce the number. And with the introduction of AI,

1071
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Speaker 8: I think that there are significant gains to be made

1072
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Speaker 8: and we will be making those over the next two

1073
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Speaker 8: to four years.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. More restructures to come that Sir

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Speaker 3: Brian Wroach, the Public Services Commissioner, after a survey of

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Speaker 3: public servants found some odd and some predictable results, have

1077
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Speaker 3: just gone nineteen away from six.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty Unique Homes,

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Speaker 2: Uniquely for You.

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Speaker 3: On the Huddle of tonight, trist Churson, Sheerson, willis pr

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Speaker 3: good evening, Good evening, Bryan and Mark Sainsbury Sainso coming

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Speaker 3: from Wellington. How are you, oh sains o? Hello, Hello, Yes,

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Speaker 3: good to have you on these Yeah, good thank good

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Speaker 3: to be here.

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Speaker 1: Ok.

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Speaker 3: So everyone working in Wellington, well half the people working

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Speaker 3: around apparently not there on merit? What do you reckon?

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Speaker 23: Look, that's I tell you.

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Speaker 24: I was staggered by that as well, and can see

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Speaker 24: why old Sir Brian was. I mean, some of the

1091
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 24: stuff you're going to expect. No one's ever happy about

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00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 24: their job. But that thing of looking around whether people

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00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 24: are hard on merit is worrying.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting if you look around your office, what do

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Speaker 4: you reckon?

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Speaker 8: That the center jould be well, what do you think?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't know what they were, what

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00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 3: they were hired on, but it certainly wasn't merit. No,

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00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: they're all pretty capable. Yeah, yeah, it's a hard question

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Speaker 3: answer while they're looking at me.

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Speaker 25: I mean back in the day when I worked with

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Speaker 25: Sainzo and the TV and ZED, the illustrious TV and

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Speaker 25: ZED newsroom in Wellington and Pitticot House, I remember giving

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Speaker 25: a number of colleagues the side eye day to day

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00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 25: on whether they were there on probably including you, saying

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Speaker 25: so somedays, what do you mean somedays?

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Speaker 4: Every day you kipping even on the side.

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Speaker 3: Hey, the beneficiaries and this is not all beneficiaries, this

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00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: is jobs seeking beneficiaries in Tasman Nelson. I thought, great this,

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00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: I wanted to do this on the show today the

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00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 3: producer said it was a story that was coming out

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Speaker 3: and this is about getting job seeker beneficiaries doing the

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00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 3: clean up. Great idea that this.

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Speaker 25: Is absolutely fantastic. Look, don't forget this is it's it's

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00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 25: an invitation to take part. It's not. It's not compulsory.

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Speaker 25: Plus you get paid on top of your benefit, so

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00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 25: you're not it's not forced labor out there. Plus, the

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Speaker 25: other thing I would think about if I were a

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00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 25: job seeker is that you're going out into the community.

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Speaker 25: A lot of the people who will be employing you

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00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 25: are farmers and other people with businesses in the community

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Speaker 25: doing these cleanups. So it's also a great way to

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Speaker 25: get out and meet press sprecked of employers and get

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Speaker 25: some more skills to put on your CV.

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Speaker 3: I think it's fantastic totally. But then we spoke to

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Speaker 3: the MSD guys, how many you know applicants you had

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Speaker 3: out of the six hundred jobs seeker beneficiaries in the region,

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Speaker 3: they've had six, saying.

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Speaker 24: The one the one percent?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, I mean, what is like fresh?

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Speaker 8: I think it's a great idea isn't it right? I

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00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 8: mean you sort of think. Yet you've got people who.

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Speaker 24: Are looking to and quite often people are out of work. Mean,

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Speaker 24: we have this view that Evan's listless and sitting around.

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Speaker 24: People want to be doing something, you know, and it

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00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 24: offer all sorts of things that has Chris said. It

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00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 24: also exposed them to other people. You might get job

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00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 24: offers or opportunities and everything like that. The only thing

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00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 24: I wonder about is that you sold you answer my

1140
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 24: question as to how many people were available, And it's

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00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 24: just the logistics of you know, we're going to put

1142
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 24: them if they're going out to other areas, you know where.

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00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 6: They're going to stay.

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Speaker 24: But I think if you can, if you can utilize,

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00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 24: and it's win win for everyone.

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00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. They did say that they would help Worth,

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00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: trantsport and all that kind of stuff. So you know,

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Speaker 3: do a van and pick them up whatever.

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Speaker 25: Well, that's great, and that's often a big barrier, right

1150
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 25: people either haven't got their driver's license or right at

1151
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 25: the moment they can't afford the petrol to get out there.

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00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 25: But before we cast dispersions on those six hundred job seekers,

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00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 25: there's a couple of things I'd say one is number

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00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 25: one is probably early days. And number two how effective

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 25: is the communication out from MSD to all of these people.

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00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 25: We don't know how many of them have actually been

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Speaker 25: reached by this.

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Speaker 3: All right, well that's reasonable My aspersions were casting quite wide.

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Speaker 25: Well, sorry to burst your.

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00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 3: Bubble, Hey, the big story today. Undoubtedly you know the

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00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 3: OCA has gone nowhere, but it's the mower and we'll

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00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: get reaction with Trish and Mark on that.

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Speaker 2: Next the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the

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Speaker 2: ones fun massed results.

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Speaker 3: Twelve away from six news talks, there'd be Trice Shurson, Shurson,

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00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: Willis pr and Mark Sains be broadcast on the huddle

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00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: Tonight's right. The more they are saying they're going to

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01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: bring it, well, they'll bring back a version of the

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01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: MOA through via a cousin in South America, so it

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Speaker 3: won't be an exact replica, but they are aiming to

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01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: de extinct this animal that, when extinct six hundred years ago,

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Speaker 3: used to rham around, particularly the South Island. Quite a

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Speaker 3: big thing there, Trisia on board.

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Speaker 25: I think the story is great, but more for the

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01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 25: fact that the best book I have read this year

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01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 25: and I've just finished. It is called The Life and

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01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 25: Death of New Zealand's legendary bird, the More, by Quinn Brerenson.

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01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 25: It is a must read if you're into New Zealand history.

1179
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 25: I had never heard of it, picked it up this year.

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01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 25: It was out in twenty thirteen and was the science

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01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 25: book of the year. And what that book actually told

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01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 25: me is number one as New Zealand as we know

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Speaker 25: very little about the More, but they were the most

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Speaker 25: unusual and unique family of birds that ever lived. Yes,

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 25: their ancestor came from South America and the kiwis flew

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01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 25: over from Ozzie. But the interesting thing about trying to

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Speaker 25: bring back the more is not only are they extinct,

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Speaker 25: but their habitat is extinct. So where the most moer

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Speaker 25: bones have been found, and there were the highest populations,

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Speaker 25: was in central Otago. We think of that as a

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01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 25: wasteland and a big rocky moonscape, you know when you

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Speaker 25: drive through those amazing places. Actually it was the site

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Speaker 25: of some of New Zealand's most amazing forests and that

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Speaker 25: was the home of the More. But what happened was

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Speaker 25: the hunters of the More literally smoked them out by

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Speaker 25: burning those forests. So if we bring back the More,

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01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 25: we haven't. We haven't got the forests for them. But

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Speaker 25: I would say to anyone who's interested in this, get

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Speaker 25: get a hold of that book. It's absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Mark, what's your thoughts on bringing back the more?

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01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 24: The Dinornus robustus? Of course, I was reminded there was

1203
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 24: a New Zealand first and the act MP back at

1204
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 24: the two of the century called Jerry Yekov, and he

1205
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 24: was talking about farming kiwi because he said, if you

1206
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 24: want to want any species to survive, turn them into

1207
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 24: a money spinner. So the logical extension of that would

1208
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 24: be is that you bring back the More you farm them,

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01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 24: and then you have the sort of like the world's

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Speaker 24: biggest sort of KFCs.

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Speaker 23: I look at that.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing.

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01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 24: We love these stories, don't we, This idea of somehow

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Speaker 24: bringing these back, and it's been tried before. I went

1215
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 24: on a school trip to the West Coast when I

1216
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 24: was like, you know, primary school, and I met this

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01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 24: guy down there. I had a pair of sandals with

1218
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 24: these homemade mower's feet on them, and he used to

1219
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 24: go walking around in the bush and the trick to

1220
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 24: it was he got big heaps of guano and sort

1221
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 24: of made giant turds basically and less than the tracks.

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Speaker 4: And the Japanese sent out a whole film.

1223
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Speaker 8: Crew to come up and try find this thing.

1224
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 24: So it's looks it's tent. It's been cantilizing. We all

1225
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 24: still hear stories. Could they still be in Fiordland? But

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Speaker 24: the science is just getting so advanced.

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Speaker 4: I look at it. I think it's just been astonishing.

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Speaker 25: Here's a fun fact for you. The name dinornis for

1229
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 25: the more actually came from the same root name is

1230
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 25: for the dinosaur because the scientist in Victorian England, a

1231
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 25: guy called Richard Owen, who really became the father of

1232
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 25: the more and More discovery, he was working on the

1233
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 25: dinosaur discoveries at the same time, and so that's where

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Speaker 25: the name came from. There, I tell you, I just

1235
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 25: my cup runneth.

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Speaker 3: Over with you, belong over on aaron.

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Speaker 16: Z also.

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Speaker 25: The first learning out of this book. And I've always

1239
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 25: pronounced this incorrectly, but the pronounce it more as an

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01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 25: I want more, not maa as in the lawn mower.

1241
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, although it is the South Island version, so

1242
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: you might get more of a moa than more. Hey,

1243
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 3: it's a fascinating thing. And the hearst eagle as well,

1244
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: three meter wingspan, this was its prey. So so when

1245
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: the mole went that, when the more went, the hast

1246
01:03:59,160 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: eagle went to.

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 25: Yeah, that is exactly right. That that is when the

1248
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 25: hearst eagle had nothing to feed on. And in fact,

1249
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 25: the haast eagle you could think of that in New Zealand.

1250
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 25: Remember we had no mammalian predators, so no lions and tigers.

1251
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 25: The hast eagle was our equivalent. That was at the

1252
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 25: top of the apex predator.

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Speaker 3: Fascinating stuff, Trisiana. You'll have to do your own podcast,

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01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 3: I reckon, Ah, we'll get it.

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01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 25: Find old Quinn Berenson because honestly, people who can write

1256
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 25: history like that, that is a fantastic story. I think

1257
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 25: it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Tri Huson and Mark Sainsbury on the Huddle tonight. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: It is seven minutes away from six News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: on iHeart Radio powered by News TALKSBB.

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Speaker 3: News TALKSB. It is five minutes away from six So

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Speaker 3: a new report out today This is from a group

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Speaker 3: that was set up. If you've had your house flooded

1265
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Speaker 3: or you no people have had their houses flooded. It's

1266
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: a horrible thing to happen. But the question is who's

1267
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Speaker 3: responsible for it? If you buy how us on flood

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 3: prone land, or if your house gets flooded and then

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01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 3: you insist on staying on that land despite advice, who

1270
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 3: should help you? The taxpayer? So the government set up

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01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: this is a while back, set up a group a

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Speaker 3: panel basically of experts that's you know, your insurers, your EWE,

1273
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: your local government, whole economists, whole bunch of them to

1274
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 3: give them some advice before they legislate. Now, Labour didn't legislate,

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01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 3: so the group's still going. National still hasn't legislated, still going,

1276
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: but they have decreed homeowners whose homes are flooded or

1277
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Speaker 3: damaged by whether events should not expect buyouts in the future.

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01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 3: They do suggest a transition period of twenty years to

1279
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: let this settle in so that people know the risks

1280
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 3: that they're taking, which I sort of agree with. I mean,

1281
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 3: if you buy on flood prone land, I'm sorry that's

1282
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: on you, and if you get flooded, but you insist

1283
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: on staying on that land. That is totally fair enough.

1284
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 3: But taxpayers can't be forking out every time it rains,

1285
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 3: can they? Three away from six News Talks, said B.

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Speaker 3: Simon Court.

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Speaker 22: Next keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 2: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and there's insurance and investments,

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Speaker 2: Grow your wealth, Protect your future news talks at B.

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Speaker 26: Good evening.

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Speaker 3: It is seven after six News Talk, said B. Lots

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Speaker 3: to come in this hour, including a Milford Market update.

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Speaker 3: This is post the rbn z's update today, Tony Tip

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Speaker 3: training with us in Wellington, the Uber Supreme Court case

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Speaker 3: continue and a fairy tale looking London as an official

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Speaker 3: state visit for Emmanuel Marker on the French Leader Today.

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Speaker 3: We'll get checking with Gavin Gray out of the UK

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Speaker 3: shortly right now. Remember last week we revealed that IKEA

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Speaker 3: Big Store had to consult with seven different Mana Fenua

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Speaker 3: groups to build their Sylvia Park store, including inviting them

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Speaker 3: to perform Katakiir and other cultural ceremonies on the site

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Speaker 3: three separate times. Well, the Under Secretary for RMA Reform Acts,

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Speaker 3: Simon Court, has gone through some more resource consents and

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Speaker 3: found even more ridiculous examples. One resource consent in Central

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Speaker 3: Hawk's Bay requires local Hupu to be invited to give

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Speaker 3: a kadakier whenever a native plant or tree is removed.

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Speaker 3: Simon Court is with me now, high Simon.

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Speaker 23: Good evening, Ryan, So what exactly.

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Speaker 3: Is have you found in Hawk's Bay?

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Speaker 23: Well, right, we've found more more mad resource consent conditions

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Speaker 23: for solar farms in Central Hawks Bay, which include, as

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Speaker 23: you pointed out, inviting Manifena to perform prayers before removing

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Speaker 23: any native trees or plants, and requiring the developer to

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Speaker 23: provide written reports every six months until at least two

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Speaker 23: years after construction's finished, outlining how they can fly with

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Speaker 23: a sixty six page cultural impact assessment and what ongoing

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Speaker 23: reporting around that. What this means is that if solar

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Speaker 23: farms can't get built, or if they get built, but

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Speaker 23: there's all this extra cost that's going to add to

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Speaker 23: your power bill. We hear councils and many others saying

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Speaker 23: they want more renewable energy, but then in the resource

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Speaker 23: consenting space they demand ceremonial chanting and spreadsheet level detail

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Speaker 23: about everything a contractor does when they're building and developing.

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Speaker 3: The site, whose land is it.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 23: These two sites that we've been looking at this week

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Speaker 23: are both around online owner in Central Hawk's Bay. One

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Speaker 23: is owned privately, the other is owned by the local

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Speaker 23: lines company. The private developer was proposing a solar farm

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Speaker 23: that would supply eighteen thousand homes. They're in liquidation because

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Speaker 23: they can't make the economics of their proposal stack up.

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Speaker 23: So the question is there are many of these projects

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Speaker 23: that we need to get built, go simply cost more,

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Speaker 23: which is going to add to people's power bills, or

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Speaker 23: just never get.

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Speaker 4: Built at all.

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Speaker 23: Like one of these projects in Ogwong, it looks like.

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Speaker 3: What's the theory? So this one that's on private land,

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Speaker 3: it's a private solar farm on private land, as you say,

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Speaker 3: the gone bus, But what's the logical the theory of

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Speaker 3: having mana Feno was so involved with the cut of

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Speaker 3: here and stuff. Would what is the theory?

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Speaker 23: Will Ryan. It's a wonky theory. And it's called the

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Speaker 23: Resource Management Act. And what parts of the Resource Management

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Speaker 23: Act say is that planners and decision makers has to

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Speaker 23: give a high level of weight to the Treaty of

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Speaker 23: Waiting principles and to other cultural matters when they're coming

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Speaker 23: up with resource consent conditions. Now, we can't get things

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Speaker 23: built in New Zealand if we're going to force the

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Speaker 23: companies to essentially perform ceremonial chanting every time they want

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Speaker 23: to get something built. And that's why ACT committed to

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Speaker 23: scrapping the resource management We campaigned on that before the

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Speaker 23: last election. We've got that into the National Act Coalition

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Speaker 23: agreement and one of the things I'm working on is

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Speaker 23: delivering a new piece of resource management law that's based

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Speaker 23: on property rights and without this General Treaty principle's clause

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Speaker 23: that drives this kind of insanity.

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Speaker 3: Have you discussed with the locally about the need for

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Speaker 3: these three separate cut of here?

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Speaker 23: Well, I haven't personally discussed it with them, but one

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Speaker 23: of the problems we've.

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Speaker 21: Got is.

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Speaker 3: Local Did the landmen, did anyone actually just say, hey,

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Speaker 3: do we need to do all this stuff? Is as necessary?

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Speaker 3: Because I mean they might do they even know?

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 8: Is this?

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Speaker 27: Well?

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Speaker 8: Ryan?

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Speaker 23: I was a civil engineering project manager for nearly twenty

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Speaker 23: five years before I was elected as an ACT MP,

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Speaker 23: and what I do know is that the kind of

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Speaker 23: questions you've asked, do we even need any of this stuff?

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Speaker 23: Are often asked at the projects stage. But once you

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Speaker 23: go to your local council, they'll say, oh, Craigie, do

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Speaker 23: you know who the manafenua is in your area and

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Speaker 23: have you consulted with them? And you say, well, no,

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Speaker 23: what interests would they have in a solar farm? Well

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Speaker 23: it turns out, according to counsel and under the RMA,

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Speaker 23: they do have an interest. And that's why councils keep

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Speaker 23: enforcing all of these conditions on developers. And if you

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Speaker 23: want your resource consent, eventually you're just going to roll

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Speaker 23: over and say yes to it, no matter what the cost.

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Speaker 23: And that's why we have to replace the Resource Management

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Speaker 23: Act with the system based on property right. So you

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Speaker 23: youb and I've given us elves to the end of

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Speaker 23: the year to introduce it, and we'll have that legislation

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Speaker 23: into the House later this year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so later this year when when will at part

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Speaker 3: by the end of by the start next year a

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Speaker 3: path and.

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Speaker 23: We're aiming to have it passed through all stages by

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Speaker 23: the middle of twenty twenty six and implemented in large

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Speaker 23: part immediately, but with a full implementation date of one

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Speaker 23: July twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: One July okay, but by mid twenty twenty six we

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Speaker 3: will have the legislation passed that will put an end

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Speaker 3: to all of this.

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Speaker 23: Well, what it's going to do is say, where there

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Speaker 23: was a treaty settlement and you know the government has

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Speaker 23: agreed that there are certain Ewe or hapu who have

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Speaker 23: a right to have their say at the planning stage,

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Speaker 23: then those.

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Speaker 4: Rights should be preserved.

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Speaker 23: But when it comes to individual consent conditions like the

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Speaker 23: I care one you referenced before saying up to seven

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Speaker 23: mon of fenoma, groups have to be consulted. And by

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Speaker 23: the way, you have to invite them to every stage

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Speaker 23: of construction, site clearance, earthworks, putting the site back together

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Speaker 23: again to say prayers. We're not going to have that.

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Speaker 3: Simon Court at party MP. Nice to have you on

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Speaker 3: the program. Time is thirteen minutes after six and we'll

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Speaker 3: get to our market update with Melford.

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Speaker 3: Let's go check in with the markets now, Milford Asset Management,

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Speaker 3: Remy Morgan's with us Hi Remy Hi, Ryan so RBNZ.

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Speaker 3: Obviously holding today is expected. How's the market reacting?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 28: For going into the announcement today, the market was pricing

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Speaker 28: very low odds of a rate card at this meeting,

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Speaker 28: and in the statement, it was clear that the RBNZ

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Speaker 28: does still expect to lower the ocr further, which is

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Speaker 28: consistent with what they outlined in May. Now post the statement,

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Speaker 28: there was actually a bit of volatility in the market

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Speaker 28: with New Zealand dollar swap rates and the currency moving

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Speaker 28: a little higher initially, but these moves they quickly unwound

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Speaker 28: and then they settled sort of roughly where you'd expect,

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Speaker 28: given there were no real surprises.

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Speaker 3: And what is the market expecting from here?

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Speaker 28: Yeah, So the interest rate market, it's pricing roughly a

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Speaker 28: two out of three chance of a cut in August

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Speaker 28: and at least one full cut by Christmas. It's not

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Speaker 28: too dissimilar to what it was thinking going into the

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Speaker 28: announcement today, and it's currently expecting around one and a

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Speaker 28: half to two further cuts from here in total, and

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Speaker 28: that will see the end of the interest rate cutting cycle,

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Speaker 28: bottoming out it just under three percent. But whether these

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Speaker 28: market views will change or not will really depend on

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Speaker 28: where the domestic data lands and policy developments offshore.

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Speaker 3: Remy Trump's all over the place on tariffs at the moment,

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Speaker 3: but has deadline self imposed deadline of night Drive technically

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Speaker 3: expires overnight tonight our time. How market's looking.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, So you'll recall back in April, following the initial announcement,

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Speaker 28: we saw global indices like the S and P five

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Speaker 28: hundred dropped significantly, But over the last ninety days we've

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Speaker 28: seen a lot of recovery and new highs reached. Now

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Speaker 28: already this week we've seen Trump releasing some of his

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Speaker 28: tariff plans, but with a first of August implementation, and

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Speaker 28: we've seen global equities edge down a little on sentiment,

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Speaker 28: but only very slightly. And maybe one area to call

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Speaker 28: out specifically is US pharmaceutical stocks, So they did pair

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Speaker 28: back on some prior gains, and that was because there

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Speaker 28: was some news overnight that they could be facing up

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Speaker 28: to two hundred percent tariffs on their products manufactured outside

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Speaker 28: of the US, But it wasn't a major negative reaction,

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Speaker 28: and that's likely because those specific tariffs would have quite

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Speaker 28: some time before they would potentially be implemented. So I

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Speaker 28: think that I think things could still be a bit choppy,

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Speaker 28: but global equity markets have held up reasonably well so

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Speaker 28: far amongst all of the noise.

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Speaker 3: I certainly have remy appreciate that update. Thank you, very much,

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Speaker 3: Rumy Morgan Milford Asset Management. It is nineteen after six

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Speaker 3: year old news Talk ZBB still to come. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to your showbiz news and I'll give you a little

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Speaker 3: insight into what's going on at the White House with

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Speaker 3: Trump and with the tariffs and with the new letters

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Speaker 3: Sex twenty two on News Talk said, be great to

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Speaker 3: have your company this evening. I spoke to you last

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Speaker 3: night about Trump, and you've got to just follow what

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Speaker 3: he does, not what he says. That's the bat, that's

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Speaker 3: the gist of the White House. But I've been looking

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Speaker 3: and for a couple of months now, I've been following

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Speaker 3: Scott Beson. He's the Treasury secretary, right He's one of

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Speaker 3: Trump's right hand men and clearly very trusted. He's an

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Speaker 3: old Wall Street guy. He's the one that designed some

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Speaker 3: of the tariffs. But he's also the one that got

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Speaker 3: Trump to pull back from the brink and go with

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Speaker 3: the ninety day pause. So thank you Scott Besson't because

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Speaker 3: he's clearly an adult in the room. Now, I've been

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out what is going on with the

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Speaker 3: deadlines extended in the last twenty four hours. Now, Trump's

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Speaker 3: sending letters threatening some countries, all of that bluster going on. Well,

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01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal has a backgrounder on these and

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01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 3: they say that it's actually Bessent who again is behind it.

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Speaker 3: He pushed Trump for an extension to delay the reciprocal

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Speaker 3: tariffts further. You know, Trump wanted to just throw the

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Speaker 3: baby out with the batha, to chuck the tariffs on

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Speaker 3: and to hell with it, you know, let them burn.

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Speaker 3: Bessont has his ear, talks him down, says, actually, we're

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Speaker 3: close to a deal with the EU and close to

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Speaker 3: a deal with India, which, if that's true, is massive,

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Speaker 3: and that's the holy grail. What kind of deal and

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Speaker 3: how comprehensive, we don't know, but that's how he's managed

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Speaker 3: to do it. He said, give us a little more time.

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Speaker 3: We're nearly there with some of these big boys. Just

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Speaker 3: give us a little bit more time. And so they have.

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Speaker 3: And so the compromise was, we will extend the deadline,

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Speaker 3: but we'll send some threatening letters so that Trump feels

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Speaker 3: like he's you know, banging his chest and he's not

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Speaker 3: being pushed over and walked over. And that is where

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Speaker 3: we are right now. The deadline official deadline does extend

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Speaker 3: overnight our time. Officially, it's just gone twenty four minutes

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Speaker 3: after six rich and you know what that means, showbiz time.

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Speaker 3: As the sun sets on the superhero trend in Hollywood,

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01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: a new movie out tomorrow is aiming to take back

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Speaker 3: the narrative and get you back to the cinema.

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01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 4: Superman, Miss Lane, in fact, you illegally entered the country.

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Speaker 3: This is how you're going to be.

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01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm not the one being interviewed Superman.

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Speaker 3: So brand new take on Superman by Guardians of the

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01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 3: Galaxy director James Gunn, trying to reintroduce us to America's

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01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 3: ultimate superhero, relatively unknown actor David Corn sweat unfortunate name,

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01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 3: but he is Superman. Nicholas Holt is the bald, slimy

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01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 3: villain Lex Luthor. Reviews dropped today, so everyone wants to

1541
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 3: know what's happening. Is it good? Is it worth watching?

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01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 3: Reviews drop today, the film receiving an eighty seven percent

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01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 3: positive rotten Tomatoes score on the review aggregate website. Critics

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Speaker 3: who saw the film early love a return to optimism

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01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 3: and blockbuster film filmmaking. They like the balance of humor

1546
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: and drama, which is great. Those who weren't so positive,

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01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 3: so the film feels bloated and unfocused, saying the attempt

1548
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:13,799
Speaker 3: to reinvent the wheel has instead made it rusty. Honestly,

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01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 3: who listens to these people? But well, obviously we do.

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Speaker 3: The director got in a bit of hot water earlier

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Speaker 3: this week when he referred to Superman as an immigrant tale.

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Speaker 26: Hm.

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01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 3: Many commentators jumped on the remark, calling the film super woke.

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01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 4: We don't go to the movie theater to be lectured too,

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01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 4: and to have somebody throw their ideology onto us.

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Speaker 8: I wonder if it will be successful.

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Speaker 3: That woman was from Fox News. The director's brother, Sean Gunn,

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01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 3: who appears in the film, fired back at the comments,

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01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 3: saying we love our immigrants. If you don't like that,

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01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 3: then you're not American and you can find out for

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01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 3: yourself if the film is super good or super terrible

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01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 3: when it hits Kiwi Cinemas from tomorrow. Ryan Bridge just

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: glad that there's another movie out there. That I actually

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01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 3: I should have asked and how long is it? Oh? Oh,

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01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 3: you need to look that up runtime. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: get Do you want to skip right.

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Speaker 13: To the end so you can spoil that one as

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01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 13: well if you spoiled it one earlier this week?

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Speaker 3: Oh, two hours nine, that's reasonable. That's reasonable. I suppose

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Speaker 3: when you've got kids, or if you're trying to attract

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01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 3: younger people, you don't want them. They're too long, you know,

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01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 3: because their attention spans are a lot shorter. Two hours

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01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 3: nine I could do. I'm happy with that. News Talks

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Speaker 3: ZB coming up after the news at half six, we're

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01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 3: talking to Jane Tips Trainey. She's got a yarn about

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01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,879
Speaker 3: Uber and the Supreme Court. News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 1: You No, I will care home well tonight. If it's

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01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: to do with money, it matters to you.

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01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 2: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mare's Insurance and investments,

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01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: Grow your wealth, protect your future.

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Speaker 1: US Talks V twenty.

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Speaker 11: Six to seven.

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Speaker 3: Would you name go to the jedy s and.

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Speaker 20: Drunk and.

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Speaker 3: The angels up in the cars?

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Speaker 1: Ye?

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Speaker 3: Now it's twenty six away from seventy. You're on News Talks.

1588
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 3: It would be great to have your company tonight, all

1589
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 3: the pomp and ceremony over in the UK. First state

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01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 3: visit by a European leader post Brexit. Emmanuel Machome is

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 3: over in London at the moment. We'll speak to Andy Brady,

1592
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 3: who's sorry to Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent there before.

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Speaker 3: Top of the r right now though. Uber's in the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court this week fighting a twenty twenty two ruling.

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01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 3: This ruling classified four drivers as employees. The company reckons

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Speaker 3: drivers have too much freedom to be treated as employees

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Speaker 3: and should not receive leave and kei we Saver contributions,

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01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 3: among other things. Trainee is The Herald's Wellington Business editor

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Speaker 3: and is with us tonight, Hi, Jannae evening Ryan. So

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Speaker 3: the unions presented their evidence this morning. What do they argue, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's right.

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Speaker 27: The unions say that these drivers definitely are employees. They

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01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 27: say that the level of control that Uber has over

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Speaker 27: the way they go about making their income is so restrictive.

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Speaker 27: They call it sort of relentless and intensive. They say

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Speaker 27: it's so intense that there is no way that these

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Speaker 27: drivers are in fact contractors. So, you know, the lawyers

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Speaker 27: for the unions ran through a number of things they

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Speaker 27: sort of picked apart the contracts that drivers you know,

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Speaker 27: sign with Uber, saying that the drivers have basically no

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Speaker 27: power in these. So these contracts are non negotiable and

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Speaker 27: Uber can change the terms and conditions as it wishes,

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Speaker 27: and the drivers kind of have no choice but but

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Speaker 27: to agree to these.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So they basically say they had no choice but

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Speaker 3: to accept when Uber cut their fares.

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Speaker 27: That's right. So one of the examples that the lawyer

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Speaker 27: used was dating back a few years now, but he said,

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Speaker 27: you know that Uber changed the fares so that the

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Speaker 27: drivers received less income and also changed the way that

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Speaker 27: the fares were calculated, and they just had to sort

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Speaker 27: of suck it up and deal with it. So one

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Speaker 27: of the things that's been debated in court is the

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Speaker 27: level of control that Uber has. Another thing that's been

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Speaker 27: debated is just how related Uber is to the business.

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Speaker 27: So Uber makes the case it says, well, actually, we're

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Speaker 27: not that involved. We just provide the platform and the

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Speaker 27: real agreement is between the driver and the passenger. But

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Speaker 27: the union say that's not right. Uber plays a big

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Speaker 27: role because Uber sets the fair, then Uber collects the fair,

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Speaker 27: and then you know, gives the driver their cut from

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Speaker 27: there and Uber controls things like the sorts of information

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Speaker 27: it gives the drivers. It penalizes the drivers if they

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Speaker 27: don't get good ratings. The unions went so fast to

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Speaker 27: say that Uber actually, you know, penalizes the drivers if

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Speaker 27: they do something wrong when they're not even driving. So

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Speaker 27: the unions that the judges just sitting in court for

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Speaker 27: a bit of the time. The judges seem quite receptive

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Speaker 27: to the union's argument. But you know, Uber also said, well,

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Speaker 27: our drivers want this, Like they've surveyed the drivers. They

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Speaker 27: love the flexibility they can apparently apparently they love the

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Speaker 27: flexibility they can choose when they work. And you know,

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Speaker 27: Uber says they agree to this contract, no one forces

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Speaker 27: them to sign it.

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Speaker 19: So it's a tough call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what has Uber's defense been saying.

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Speaker 27: Well, basically that the flexibility is such that it's that

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Speaker 27: you can't possibly call the drivers employees. Now, Uber has

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Speaker 27: been fighting this battle all around the world, and it

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Speaker 27: says that the sort of contractor model is, I mean,

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Speaker 27: it's central to the way it operates. So the fact

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Speaker 27: it's taken it to the Supreme Court, you know, shows

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Speaker 27: how significant this is for Uber. A thing Ryan that's

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Speaker 27: happening here in the background is that the government is

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Speaker 27: actually in the process of changing the law, so it's

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Speaker 27: a bit more prescriptive on you know what exactly it

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01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:26,839
Speaker 27: constitutes being a contractor versus an employee. So the effect

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Speaker 27: of this case could be significant for other people in

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Speaker 27: the goog economy, but perhaps the salience of it might

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Speaker 27: not be as great because the government is actually changing

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Speaker 27: the law to provide some clarity in the space.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating case. We'll keep watching that it is still going.

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Speaker 3: Is it presumably in the Supreme Court there, Jane.

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Speaker 27: I think it wrapped up today. It was set down

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Speaker 27: for two days, so I guess it'll take the judges

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01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 27: some time to deliberate. But it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 27: whether the outcome is announced before the law is.

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Speaker 19: Changed or not.

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Speaker 27: So it's quite a bit there for the lawyers to digest.

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Speaker 3: I think absolutely, and one might sort of null and

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Speaker 3: void the other. Anyway, Jay, appreciate your time, Trainee and

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand Herald Wellington Business Editor. On the show tonight,

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Speaker 3: twenty one minutes away from seven o'clock, we'll get to

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Speaker 3: the UK next with Gavin.

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Speaker 2: Gray encroaching the numbers and getting the results it's Ryan

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01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 2: Bridge with the business hour and mass.

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Speaker 1: Insurance and investments. Grew your wealth, protect your future. The

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01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: news dogs' b.

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Speaker 3: It is eight minutes away from seven o'clock now, no sorry,

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Speaker 3: eighteen minutes away from seven o'clock Ryan. Lots of Uber

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Speaker 3: drivers are also on bolt Aller and other taxi platforms.

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Speaker 3: D D I think is the new one, the Chinese

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Speaker 3: one that's coming here. They choose which platform they take

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Speaker 3: a ride from at any point in time. It just

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01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,640
Speaker 3: came back from Europe exactly the same situation. They're not

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01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 3: sure how that works for an employee. It's a really

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01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 3: good point if you have multiple you know, if you're

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Speaker 3: running multiple apps on your ride share, you're not an employee.

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest. Well, well, I suppose you could be

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Speaker 3: an employee of all of them. But trying to argue

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Speaker 3: that in court, you'd have to think you'd have a

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Speaker 3: hard time. One thing I noticed when I got an

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Speaker 3: Uber last time. It gives you an alert now on

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01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 3: the app before you get in the car, to tell you,

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01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 3: well two things. One if there's a bike lane nearby

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01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 3: or something, in case you open your door and had

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Speaker 3: a cyclist. The other thing, it popped up and said

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01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 3: to me the other day is be where you're being filmed,

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01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 3: which if you have had a few drinks and this

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01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 3: actually happened to do you remember the guys? Was it

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01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 3: Stefanovic over in Australia. He's a actor, a TV presenter

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01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 3: or something. He got on the back of a taxi,

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01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 3: had a conversation with his brother. The taxi driver was

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01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 3: actually secretly recording the whole thing and then leaked it

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01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 3: to the press. But it just got me thinking, I mean,

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01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 3: if you don't snog your partner in the back of

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01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 3: a taxi, don't swear, don't do anything stupid, because when

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01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 3: you get into an uber at least this is how

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01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to treat all ubers from henceforth. You're basically

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01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 3: on Candid Camera sixteen to seven. Bryan Bridge, Kevin Gray

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Speaker 3: are UK europe correspondent Devin Good morning, good evening either

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Speaker 3: right now, Emanuel Macron is in London for the first

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Speaker 3: state visit of a European state leader since Brickset.

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Speaker 26: Yes, that's right, and it's the first visit state visit

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Speaker 26: of a French president here for seventeen years. The UK

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Speaker 26: government when it came in just over a year ago

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Speaker 26: promised to reset the relationship with the European Union and

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Speaker 26: that of course over the Brexit vote and this three

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Speaker 26: day visit day two today the carpet is red carpet

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Speaker 26: quite literally being rolled out for Emmanuel Macron and his wife.

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Speaker 26: They were greeted by King Charles and Queen Camilla. He

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Speaker 26: then gave a speech to Parliament talking about how both

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Speaker 26: countries have a duty to tackle illegal migration quote with humanity,

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Speaker 26: solidarity and firmness. And it's very much topic of choice

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Speaker 26: at the moment, with numbers spiking again getting across the

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Speaker 26: English Channel to the UK in small boats. But many

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Speaker 26: here in France believe that I believe rather that France

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Speaker 26: simply isn't doing enough to stop those small boats crossing

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Speaker 26: the channel, despite being given tens of millions of pounds

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Speaker 26: taxpayers money here to fight the criminal gangs operating over there. Anyway,

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Speaker 26: today the tour continues. They go through Windsor and also

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Speaker 26: visit the tomb of the late.

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Speaker 3: Queen interesting Germany accusing China's military of targeting one of

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Speaker 3: its aircraft with a laser.

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Speaker 26: Yes, the Chinese ambassador has been summoned to the German

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Speaker 26: Foreign Ministry over this claims of this incident that they

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Speaker 26: say happened at the start of this month. The tensions

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Speaker 26: come as really concerns mount in the European Union about

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Speaker 26: the influence that China is having on critical technologies and

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Speaker 26: also security infrastructure in Europe. Now, according to Germany's Defense Ministry,

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Speaker 26: they say the aircraft was taking part in the European

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Speaker 26: Union ASPIDES mission, which is a response to attacks on

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Speaker 26: international shipping in the Red Sea by the Uti rebels

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Speaker 26: backed by Irana coss Now. Operation ASPDES is purely a

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Speaker 26: defensive mission to increase maritime surveillance, but it is thought

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Speaker 26: that during that point in time, maritime surveillance aircraft has

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Speaker 26: been carrying out reconnaissance work over the Red Sea, and

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Speaker 26: the Chinese warship, which had been encountered several times in

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Speaker 26: the Red Sea, targeted the aircraft with a laser for

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Speaker 26: no reason and prior communication had not been conducted during

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Speaker 26: this routine mission flight and by using the laser, the

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Speaker 26: Germans are saying the warship was put at risk both

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Speaker 26: the equipment and the personnel on board, but very few

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Speaker 26: other details at the moment. The Chinese denying any such

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Speaker 26: laser was.

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Speaker 3: Fired now TV present so we all know him here

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Speaker 3: mastership BBC. What's happening with him?

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Speaker 26: Well, so, of course he's been off our screens for

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Speaker 26: a while after allegations surfaced of inappropriate misconduct or inappropriate

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Speaker 26: sexual comments. And now we learn that, according to reports,

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Speaker 26: at least he has been sacked and removed from the

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Speaker 26: program and removed as a presenter by the production company

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Speaker 26: that makes Master Chef and other things called Banaja. Now

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Speaker 26: he has come out fighting. He's issued a statement saying

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Speaker 26: if you think I'm going to go quietly or wrong,

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Speaker 26: basically saying that a lot of these allegations are completely

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Speaker 26: false and that the BBC investigation has ultimately shown that

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01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 26: the most serious allegations are completely incorrect. So, for his part,

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Speaker 26: Greg Wallace said quote, I will not go quietly. I

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Speaker 26: will not be canceled for convenience. I was tried by

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01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 26: media and hung out to dry well before the facts

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Speaker 26: were established, and has accused the BBC of peddling baseless

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01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 26: and sensationalized gospel masquerading as properly corroborated stories. Meanwhile, Ryan,

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Speaker 26: it's alleged to further fifty people have come forward alleging

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Speaker 26: inappropriate conduct, including dropping his trousers allegedly when people go

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01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 26: into his dressing room without wearing any underwear, and inappropriate

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Speaker 26: comments as well. So I think this one is set

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01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 26: to wrangle on for some considerable time. But it looks

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Speaker 26: like he won't be on our TV screens for a

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Speaker 26: while yet.

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Speaker 3: No, it sounds like rightly so if that's true. Hey,

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Speaker 3: London looked absolutely beautiful. And the images that we're seeing

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Speaker 3: coming out of London with the French President Macron and

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Speaker 3: his wife Beer and they're in the horse and carriage

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01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 3: with King Charles, it just looks beautiful.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, it's a great time of year. A little bit

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01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 26: too hot for some of those dressed up in all

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01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 26: the finery yesterday our sense, but yeah, it was really good. Interestingly,

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Speaker 26: the state banquet that they were given yesterday was at

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Speaker 26: Windsor Castle. That's because Buckingham Palace is under such huge

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Speaker 26: renovation at the moment. Indeed, I think Donald Trump's visit

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Speaker 26: in a couple of months time we'll see a similar

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01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 26: tactic entertained that Windsor are not at Buckingham Palace. But yeah, truly, Yeah,

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Speaker 26: it shows off a lot of the pomp and ceremony,

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Speaker 26: but also shows off how London's looking in these lovely

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Speaker 26: summer months.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Gavin, Thank you. Gevin Gray are UK Europe correspondent.

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Speaker 3: Time is a living away from seven News Talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZIBB, eight minutes away from seven. Not a

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Speaker 3: lot of love for the Uber drivers tonight on the

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Speaker 3: texts betweene Ryan. No sympathy for them, says Andrew. They

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Speaker 3: want to be their own boss, but don't want the

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Speaker 3: cost of building their own credible franchise. Now they moan

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Speaker 3: about it and go to court about it. Check out

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Speaker 3: what they do when they're not driving. Many have other

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Speaker 3: jobs as well. Yeah, I suse it's a fair point.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's not all Uber drivers who were

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Speaker 3: taking this court action through the union is. It's a

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Speaker 3: number of Uber drivers, but by no means all of them,

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of them are really happy with

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Speaker 3: as Jane said, with the flexibility and you can jump

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Speaker 3: on one app, jump to another, and do it in

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Speaker 3: your own time and do it on your own terms.

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Speaker 3: Right coming up to eight minutes away from seven and

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Speaker 3: it so, what are we going out to tonight?

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Speaker 13: Warpegs by Black Sabbath to play us out tonight, Ryan,

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Speaker 13: We're going to rock out for the end of the show. Obviously,

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Speaker 13: Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osborne did the whole back to

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Speaker 13: the beginning sort of farewell show in Birmingham over the weekend.

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Speaker 13: They raised a lot of money for charity. One hundred

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Speaker 13: and ninety million US dollars they raised for the three

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Speaker 13: charities they were raising money for, which were Pure Parkinson's,

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Speaker 13: the Birmingham Children's Hospital and the Acorn Children's Hospice. I

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Speaker 13: just did the back of the envelope calculations. I think

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Speaker 13: it's about three hundred and sixteen million New Zealand dollars

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Speaker 13: that they raised for charity there.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize this.

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Speaker 13: They were selling pay per views to the live stream,

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01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 13: so if you wanted to watch the live stream, you

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Speaker 13: had to pay, which we've seen for like boxing fights

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Speaker 13: and you have ce fights and stuff before. But clearly

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Speaker 13: they're looking at that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, really it's a lucrative model.

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Speaker 13: Well that's the thing. I mean, do people want to

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Speaker 13: pay to sit and watch costs a concert at home?

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Speaker 13: Turns out.

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Speaker 1: Yep, clearly they do.

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Speaker 3: It's that fascinating. Probably we'll see more of that. Thanks

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Speaker 3: so much for listening everybody today and for your feedback,

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Speaker 3: all of your emails and your texts. Much appreciated, enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: Do it again tomorrow, Have a great evening.

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Speaker 29: Now in darkness, well stops turning.

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Speaker 3: Hashes.

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Speaker 1: Whether body's burning.

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Speaker 4: No more.

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Speaker 29: War pigs of the power and of God has struck

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Speaker 29: the hour day of judgment. God is calling on the knees.

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Speaker 29: The war pig's crawling him. He's begging Mercy's father's.

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Speaker 30: Satan laughing spreads his weary hans a lodger.

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