1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Jamie McKay, Hosts of the Countries with US. Hello Jamie, 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Hello Heather. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm in two conversations. I need to concentrate on you. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Who are you chatting with? 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Am my wife? 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: I not fair enough she generally, I mean I can 7 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: understand that. Generally, she would take precedence over literally everybody except. 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: I normally don't. I normally do mostly listening. She does 9 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: most of the talking. But occasion I was talking. 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I bet she appreciated that coman a lot. Hey, 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: it's a bit gloomy to think the golden era of 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: trade is over. But I mean that's probably realistic, isn't it? 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: Well, in some ways it is. And this was the 14 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: statement made by Vangallis Batalas. What a great name. He 15 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: sounds like an Argentina Argentina and tennis player from the seventies, 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: doesn't he like Cavita Scirolitis and guilmero Velis. I'm getting 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: a way off track, Sorry there, Heather. Yeah. Like he said, 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: we went through a primary export boom between ninety five 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: and twenty seventeen, and he said since then, things have 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: got a lot harder. And he used the example of 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: superpowers like the US and China who are basically making 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: up the rules to suit themselves, and we the smaller 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: and medium states like New Zealand are increasingly becoming collateral damage. 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: And we might need to get used to that either, 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 2: because if Trump gets the White House, he is rather 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 2: insular when it comes to trade, he said New Zealand. 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 2: This was his addressed to the Primary Industry summit yesterday morning. 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: He said New Zealand couldn't afford to rest on its laurels, 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: especially if we want to reach the goal, the government's 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: current goal of doubling the value of exports in the 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: next decade. At the moment, New Zealand's all about China. 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: They take twenty three percent of their total exports. But 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: you know, he made the point, we also have the 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: cp tpp I. Hope I've got enough peas in there, 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Transpecific Partnership, and that 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: actually takes twenty seven percent of our trade. And then 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: he said, if you throw in the Assian Nation Association 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: of South East Asian Nations, that's the very that's the 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: growing market of Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines and Malaysia. That's you know, potentially, 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: and this is what a lot of people are telling me, 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: that is where our future life Southeast Asia. 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that probably is actually right. And you 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: just got to got cobble a hole bunch of those 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: all small ones together and you get the big one altogether. 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: Like you kind of you get enough to be a 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: big one. On those awards that you were at on Tuesday, 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: I think you predicted, if I remember correctly, that Julian 48 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: Rain was going to win, didn't you. 49 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: Well, no, I didn't. I mean Julian along with the 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: South was a finalist, and I thought Van gals Vitalis 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 2: would win because I mean, let's be honest, you did 52 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: negotiate a free trade agreement with the UK and the EU. 53 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: But I was really pleased that Julian Rain wanted He 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: absolutely deserves it. He's been around forever, even longer than me, 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: and he's been into like dairy and horticulture. He's a 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: real entrepreneurs. He's been the president of Horticulture in New Zealand. 57 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 2: He was one of the instigators of the y Mean 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: Dam project which is transforming that region in New Zealand, 59 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: and he was a bit only found this out on 60 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: the night he was about when they set up on 61 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: Terra in two thousand and one. So, look, he's had 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: a finger and a lot of pies. He's a real entrepreneur. 63 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: He's got his own ice cream and milk brands, and 64 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: he's just a quiet, humble man, very very clever bloke, 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: and at at the peak of the season, I think 66 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: he employs five or six hundred people. So I was 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: really pleased from absolutely deserved. 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: Did Todd Charteris of Rubbobank come and tell you off 69 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: for your outfit? 70 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I was just I was making my way 71 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: to get my first drink for the evening and he 72 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: comes up and says, where's your tie? I said, well, 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: what does it worry you? He said, oh, here, there's 74 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: been chipping away at you on ZDB for not wearing 75 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: a tie. 76 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: Good loved man. 77 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: Here, If I honestly thought I even had half a 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: snuff of the big Gong, oh you would have put 79 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: on a tie. So really it was just me protecting my. 80 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: So oh fair enough, Jamie. Look everybody's allowed a little 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: bit of self protection. Good on you, Jamie. Jamie mckaie, 82 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: hosts of the Country Good on Todd Charteris of rubber 83 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: Bank being a man of his word. 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