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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be good news for everyone who works in a newsroom.

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Speaker 2: Swearing could be your new superpower. Google Sutherland from Umbrella

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Speaker 2: well Being is with us this morning with the details

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Speaker 2: on a fascinating new studies that says that actually swearing

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Speaker 2: might increase your performance. Say it ain't so, Google, Kira Jack.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well this you know. This is what science says

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Speaker 3: is that the more you swear that the better you do.

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Speaker 3: But I think you possibly want to. You probably want

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Speaker 3: to pick your locations and your profession. You probably don't

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Speaker 3: want to drop the f bond too readily on your show,

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Speaker 3: and I'm similar in my line of work. It's probably

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Speaker 3: not entirely appropriate.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's time and place.

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Speaker 3: There's a time and place. There's a time and place.

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Speaker 3: So there's the idea here, is that that often when

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Speaker 3: we if you know, often you feel like you're trying

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Speaker 3: to you're doing something physically active, some you know, some

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Speaker 3: big strength based physical activity and you really feel like

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Speaker 3: you want to let it all hang out and just yell.

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Speaker 3: But in not doing that, so in inhibiting your your swearing,

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Speaker 3: So by not yelling out and swearing that you actually

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Speaker 3: inhibit your performance a bit because you're kind of holding back.

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Speaker 3: But the theory here is that actually, if you let

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Speaker 3: it all hang out and you're really you know, swear

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Speaker 3: as loudly as you can, you can actually increase your

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Speaker 3: performance and increase your strength, particularly around physical sort of

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, physical activities and sports.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing. So if you think about tennis in

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Speaker 2: the Australian Open at the moment and fifteen years I

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Speaker 2: remember when people first started grunting in tennis, it was yes,

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Speaker 2: and like all comedians were to do things, you know,

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Speaker 2: make jokes about it and stuff, and now it's kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of pass a you see it

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Speaker 2: all the time. But this would suggest that grunting and

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Speaker 2: tennis is actually a really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's led on from that. So actually what

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Speaker 3: they found was that with grunting and with again, it's

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Speaker 3: that kind of idea of just letting it all hang

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Speaker 3: out and not being inhibited when you are when you're performing,

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Speaker 3: and particularly in sports and grunting as one of those things.

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Speaker 3: There was a theory I heard that that it's partly

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Speaker 3: to disguise the spin. You know in tennis that people

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Speaker 3: are putting on the ball, so you can't kind of

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Speaker 3: but I don't. You probably need to talk to your

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Speaker 3: sport about that rather than me. But but that's it

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Speaker 3: is one theory. But you know this research about sphereen

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Speaker 3: grew out of that that that they found that you know,

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Speaker 3: grunting does help increase your strength and similarly for swearing,

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Speaker 3: it's it increases it even more. It increases things like

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Speaker 3: your your your grip strength and how hard you hit

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Speaker 3: the ball back.

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Speaker 2: Interesting if you think about it. And rugby, you know

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Speaker 2: when the scrum and when they engage and they go yeah,

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Speaker 2: and the engage yea. After that, when they when they

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Speaker 2: really try and put the pressure on, you can hear

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Speaker 2: them grunting and yelling and stuff. I mean there are

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Speaker 2: examples like that everywhere. It's not just a but when

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Speaker 2: you think, yeah, even when you lift something you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well weightlifting as well. You know, if

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Speaker 3: you often see that, you know they're really straining and

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Speaker 3: grunting it and and and pushing and it's you know

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Speaker 3: that idea about pushing it out. Actually, when when they

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Speaker 3: broke it down, they found that there were kind of

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Speaker 3: three main you know, three main features that that that

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Speaker 3: led people to be a bit more self confident, It

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Speaker 3: distracted them from the pain and the effort of what

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Speaker 3: they were doing, and it also helped tender. They think

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Speaker 3: it also helped people just stay in the flow of

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Speaker 3: that physical activity because some of your inhibition is about

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Speaker 3: what do other people think about me when I'm doing this?

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Speaker 3: And that actually there, swearing sort of has a threefold effect.

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Speaker 3: And look for people listening at home. You could try

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Speaker 3: this the way they the way they demonstrated this. I

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Speaker 3: was actually trying to do this before you before before

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Speaker 3: the call, but I was not very good at it.

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Speaker 3: That you do this thing called a cheer hold, so

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Speaker 3: you put your hands underneath your backside sitting on it.

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Speaker 3: Don't do it on a chair with wheels, because you'll

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Speaker 3: go flying on a solid chair. And then you try

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Speaker 3: and push yourself up off the chair and hold with

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Speaker 3: your arms so that you're sort of prone. You raised

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Speaker 3: your backside, raised arms on your arms, and you just

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Speaker 3: try and hold that for as long as possible. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I couldn't do it at all, but that that probably

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Speaker 3: says more about me than anything. And I tried swearing

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Speaker 3: a lot. I tried a lot of swearing and it

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Speaker 3: still didn't really help. But it's gosh, it was really

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Speaker 3: tough I found it. But you give it a go

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Speaker 3: at home, and you know, try it with someone with

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Speaker 3: out swearing, see what happens. Make sure that perhaps make

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Speaker 3: sure the younger members of the family aren't around. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you know, you can give it a bash at

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Speaker 3: home and see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, So this has only really been tested for physical things, right,

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Speaker 2: This isn't It's not like if you're sitting there writing

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Speaker 2: an essay on proofs you can all of a sudden go.

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Speaker 3: Sitting sitting in an exam at university job. Well that

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Speaker 3: I mean, the idea is that they're interested in seeing

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Speaker 3: could this tend to to other things where we kind

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Speaker 3: of inhibit ourselves. But at the moment, it's really looking

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Speaker 3: at you know, any anything where there's effort, anything physically

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Speaker 3: effort for where you need a lot of strength and

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Speaker 3: you're really feeling you know, you're really pushing it your

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Speaker 3: sort of your face, your veins are popping out of

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Speaker 3: your face in there can and and it's those sorts

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Speaker 3: of situations you know, maybe we could you know, I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't suggest at this stage, you know, trying to do

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Speaker 3: it when you're looking for a salary increase or renegotiating

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Speaker 3: your contract and you go in and swear at your

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Speaker 3: boss just to really get the maximum out of it.

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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't recommend that, but anything with physical activity,

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Speaker 3: give it a shot and see how you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. I might be with a crack. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's it's actually one of those things that when you like,

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Speaker 2: step back a little bit. I mean it's it's a

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Speaker 2: bit of a laugh. But when you see it, you

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Speaker 2: actually it kind of makes sense, feel feels rational.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it. It does feel rational, I think, and and

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Speaker 3: and I think one of the things that they were

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Speaker 3: interested in is really finding out how it works in

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Speaker 3: terms of, you know, what, what's the actual mechanism, by

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Speaker 3: what why how it works? And that's around you know,

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Speaker 3: people feeling more self confident and distracting yourself. So you know,

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Speaker 3: it does make good sense once you're sort of looking

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Speaker 2: We've been seen a very good example brand that both

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Speaker 2: you and I would have missed this, and we're focusing

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Speaker 2: on things like Rugby scrums. Hello, gentlemen, dot dot dot

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Speaker 2: childbirth question.

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Speaker 3: Mate, Oh, yes, yes, absolutely, I think yea, yes you

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Speaker 3: possibly did. Yeah, no, yeah, absolutely, child, that's the classic example. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: I think gentlemen is perhaps the app word there that

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Speaker 3: we would have slightly missed that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, oh then he's another way. Here's another another

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Speaker 2: sitution on the text. I concur with the swearing point.

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Speaker 2: I'm known as a terrible di y. I take it here,

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Speaker 2: but still stuff things up. Sometimes when I'm really struggling

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Speaker 2: with something, a loud f bomb does something to my

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Speaker 2: psyche and somehow the thing works out. It's not ideal,

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Speaker 2: but it's like this wear word seems to calm and

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Speaker 2: cause a reset.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're swearing and it was winding you up more,

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Speaker 2: then you might do a ghost job. But if if

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Speaker 2: swearing was an effective way of getting out your anger

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Speaker 2: and then kind.

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Speaker 3: Of yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's funny. My my my son

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Speaker 3: and my nephews both learned to swear from their grandfather

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Speaker 3: when he was doing DIY stuff and it wasn't going

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Speaker 3: well and he would let out the occasional expleet of

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Speaker 3: and they both they all picked it up from him.

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Speaker 3: But again, that was the same thing about you know

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Speaker 3: something wasn't going quite right, and out it would come.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but just letting out that tension,

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Speaker 3: maybe getting the focus back and not being so wound up,

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Speaker 3: and it would probably be helpful.

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Speaker 2: To Yeah, very good. Hey, thank you, nice of you,

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Speaker 2: New Year.

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Speaker 3: Yes you too, Cheers you too.

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Speaker 2: Thanks forlan from Umbrella Well being with us this morning.

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