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Speaker 1: In the Brady UK correspondens with that's Allowinda.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Heather good to speak again.

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Speaker 1: So how do we write the chances that Trump actually

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Speaker 1: follows through on that suit?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure. The BBC currently has a billion

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Speaker 2: dollars in the bank just waiting for Donald Trump to

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Speaker 2: take it. It's a threat. And it's really interesting because

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Speaker 2: I just watched last night that movie The Apprentice, and

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Speaker 2: in the opening sequence where he meets the lawyer Cohen,

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Speaker 2: the lawyer says to a young Donald Trump, you got

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Speaker 2: to slap them with a lawsuit, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: he's done with the BBC here. So it's very interesting

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Speaker 2: the Trump playbook. And I think what we're going to

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Speaker 2: see is another apology from the BBC because yesterday I

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Speaker 2: don't think went far enough kind of a robust defense

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Speaker 2: of their journalism and that's all well and good, but

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Speaker 2: they've been caught redhanded here. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Now, what I've noticed is you've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: defense and minimization that's going on here. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people, Emily Matelis Lewis, all people

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Speaker 1: like that, all saying this is a hysteria and completely

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Speaker 1: overhyped and really not a big deal. What do you think.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a very big deal. It goes to

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Speaker 2: the absolute fundamental tenet of journalism, the facts. And they

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Speaker 2: whoever edited that Trump interview fifty four minutes was the

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Speaker 2: gap between the two clips, by the way, fifty four minutes.

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Speaker 2: So this was not something that was just done by accident.

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Speaker 2: This was done for dramatic purposes and to make him

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Speaker 2: look as if he was calling on people to go

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Speaker 2: to Capitol Hill and fight. And we all know what

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Speaker 2: happened that January day a few years back. I think

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Speaker 2: it's very, very bad. And I think the BBC response

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Speaker 2: last week, when day after day this was in the

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Speaker 2: papers one day after the other, and they were dithering

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Speaker 2: and there were meetings. I think the problem with the

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Speaker 2: BBC's layer upon layer of management. It's like an onion.

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Speaker 2: And having worked at Sky News for seventeen years, the

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Speaker 2: head guy who I worked for directly for seventeen years,

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Speaker 2: not only was his door always open, he actually took

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Speaker 2: the door off its hinges so he could interact with

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Speaker 2: people and there was no getting away from the guy.

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Speaker 2: If you're in an edit, sweet, he'd come in and

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Speaker 2: watch you work. You know, he was an amazing boss.

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Speaker 2: I learned so much from him. And I think what

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Speaker 2: the BBC struggle with is that the director General is

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Speaker 2: so far away from the average working member of staff

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Speaker 2: being able to say, Hey, Tim, I've got an idea.

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Speaker 2: You'll get as far as Tim's pa and she'll give

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Speaker 2: you a date sometime in April.

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Speaker 1: Now explain to me, then, Howard is that you have

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Speaker 1: people who I would consider to be highly respected journalists

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Speaker 1: making excuses. How you've got people saying this is some

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Speaker 1: sort of a clue going on instead of acknowledging what

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: Because I think they're BBC lifers and their entire career

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Speaker 2: has been built around the BBC and they don't want

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Speaker 2: to shake the boat. I think we need people now

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Speaker 2: to take a step back and realize this is very serious.

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Speaker 2: The most powerful man in the world and they, whether

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Speaker 2: people like Trump or Hay, they've made him say something

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Speaker 2: he categorically did not say, and it was done for

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Speaker 2: dramatic effect, and it was done to paint him in

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Speaker 2: the bad light in the run up to an election.

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Speaker 2: And what's he now saying electoral interference? I mean if

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Speaker 2: it was the other way around, if it was done

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Speaker 2: here that Keir Starmer had been chopped up and some

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Speaker 2: interview spliced together to make it look as if he'd

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Speaker 2: said something he hadn't, people would be up in arms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah too, right, that's a very fit point. Now, explain

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Speaker 1: to me what's going on with Andrews's surname.

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Speaker 2: Well, it appears he's getting a new title. They're giving

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Speaker 2: him a hyphen. He will be Mount Batton Hyphen Windsor.

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Speaker 2: Now there's been a lot of discussion in the papers today.

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Speaker 2: Apparently his mother went to the Privy Council after he

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Speaker 2: was born in the sixties and made it clear that

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Speaker 2: she wanted the family surname to be Mount Batton Hyphen Windsor.

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Speaker 2: So eyebrows were raised the other week when he was

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Speaker 2: just a civilian given the Mountbatten Windsor and that he

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Speaker 2: would just be like everyone else because there was no

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Speaker 2: hyphen in there. It was his mother's wish that the

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Speaker 2: hyphen be included. So another Andrew's story in the papers today. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean he's probably glad of the BBC at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what what does it matter with his hyphen or not?

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Speaker 2: I don't get it true. Oh look, I think you

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Speaker 2: need to be of certain British aristocratic stock, and there

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Speaker 2: will be some incredible story from the seventeen eighties about

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Speaker 2: some lord who came up with the idea to have

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Speaker 2: a hyphen, and then there was a feudal row with

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Speaker 2: his brother or cousin over the hyphen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just got a hyphen, India, does that

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Speaker 1: mean I'm fleshed?

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Speaker 2: I think you're postured and I thought you were.

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Speaker 1: Ah in, thank you Inda hyphen, Brady appreciated UK correspondent. Apparently, actually,

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Speaker 1: though I do have a hyphen, actually did the hyphen myself. Long, long,

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Speaker 1: long story, but was actually born Ellen. So my name

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Speaker 1: is Hara Allan, like a proper Scottish name, like Allen.

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Speaker 1: But then, of course, oh lord, here we're getting into it.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm giving you the story. Okay. So then

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Speaker 1: what happened was my dad nicked off back to New

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Speaker 1: Zealand when I was about five years old or something like,

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Speaker 1: maybe even a younger than I might have No, I

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Speaker 1: was five, my brother was three, and so my mum

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Speaker 1: raised us right, and so she's the duplacy, she's the

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Speaker 1: South African and so I was like, hey, listen, let's

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Speaker 1: honor the lady who did all the hard work here.

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Speaker 1: So I took my mum's surname and then I hyphenated

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Speaker 1: it with my dad's. My brother was just like an

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Speaker 1: ut bugger this all together, and so he just dropped

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Speaker 1: the all and all together and just went for my

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Speaker 1: mum's surname douplacy anyway. Anyway, so I thought I was

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Speaker 1: a bit flash for a bit there. I was like, hm, hm,

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Speaker 1: I've got a hyphen, big deal. But now I'm reading

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Speaker 1: I've read, Well, look at all the like rugby league players.

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Speaker 1: They've all got hyphens, haven't they, Charms, nicol klock Start,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. You're hardly going to say that a rugby

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Speaker 1: league player is an aristocratic I'm not casting aspersions. I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, it's just a fact. So what's happened is

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Speaker 1: that the hyphen, which was once the height of aristocracy,

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Speaker 1: is now basically just like a middle class like thing.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has it now. So if you've got a hyphen,

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Speaker 1: like me, get rid of it.

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