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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty on paralleled

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Speaker 2: On the Huddle with Us is even Who've Got? Toby

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Speaker 2: Manhar of the spinoff Nick Mill's host of Wellington Mornings

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Speaker 3: Hello you too, Hello, good evening, Toby.

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Speaker 2: What do you think does it need to go back?

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Speaker 2: Does it need to be changed? Does it need to

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Speaker 2: be removed?

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Speaker 4: We're talking here about the gang patch. Well, well, there

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Speaker 4: are two parts to it, don't they. I mean the

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Speaker 4: process seems the most worrying one, and coming back on

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Speaker 4: the on the back of some of the changes to

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Speaker 4: do with the firearms laws. I do think there's a

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Speaker 4: problem with process. And yeah, it does seem like the

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Speaker 4: sort of thing that should be up for public scrutiny.

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Speaker 2: Is your problem with the process, Toby, that it feels

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Speaker 2: like the government is doing a whole bunch of stuff,

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Speaker 2: ramming it through without consultation.

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Speaker 4: Well, I do think it's starting to look like a pattern.

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Speaker 4: It does seem like the kind of thing that that

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Speaker 4: needs to be up for up for public scrutiny, up

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Speaker 4: for transparency.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you reckon, Nick?

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Speaker 3: I think for it? I agree with Toby one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: But I also think that it's the most stupidous thing

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Speaker 5: I mean, how the hell are you going to ban

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Speaker 5: a person from having a patch in their home. I mean,

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Speaker 5: now we're starting to get really nippicky, and you've got

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Speaker 5: to be convicted four times before they're going to come

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Speaker 5: in and take it away from you. I mean, this

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Speaker 5: is all getting We've got bigger fish to fry than

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Speaker 5: worrying about whether a guy's been had up three times

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Speaker 5: for wearing a gang patch out and whether he's.

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Speaker 3: Got it at his home on his fourth time.

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Speaker 5: I mean, to me, it's thinking of like, really, have

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Speaker 5: we really got to that level?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think Nick, you're probably onto something here, which

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Speaker 2: is that perfectly good things are being ruined with some

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Speaker 2: stupid things in there, right, I mean, come.

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Speaker 3: On, give us a break.

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Speaker 4: And the worry is the worry is that you will

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Speaker 4: have a situation where that will be used as a

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Speaker 4: kind of civil liberties areas.

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Speaker 2: Don't you get the feeling that that is exactly why

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Speaker 4: Well, if so, then, as you point out, a compromises

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Speaker 4: the principle on which the game patch thing is based,

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Speaker 4: which is we you know, it's not about cracking down

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Speaker 4: on people who want to express themselves in particular ways

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Speaker 4: of private. It's about cracking down on people who use

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Speaker 4: intimidatory tactics in public.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, hey listen, Yeah, and we're.

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Speaker 3: Not going to decide what people were in their bedrooms,

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Speaker 2: Look, I have to be honest with you, though, Nick,

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Speaker 2: I do feel like that's slightly a red herring, Like

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Speaker 2: it doesn't feel to me like they are going to

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Speaker 2: go and police. Whether you know, Harry from the Mungrel

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Speaker 2: Mob is wearing his patch in his bedroom, it's more

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Speaker 2: event tomorrow. I understand what he's done it repeatedly.

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Speaker 5: My comment is just, really, are we really getting to

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Speaker 5: that sort of stage when we've got so many other

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Speaker 2: Look, I think you'd be hard pressed to find somebody

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Speaker 2: that tells you everything you need to know about it. Toby,

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Speaker 2: do you think that to a peer who district is stuffed? Like,

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Speaker 2: is this the end of the road for them.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's so sad, it's so terribly sad. And they've

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Speaker 4: also had all sorts of knocks around ski fields and otherwise.

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Speaker 4: And you look at a Hakuni and it's a real struggling,

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Speaker 4: fantastic town. And it just goes back to this point

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Speaker 4: real tragedy that this hasn't been dealt with by consecutive governments.

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Speaker 2: Frankly, what do you you mean in terms of the

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Speaker 4: Spot prices, the way the spot prices work, And that's

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Speaker 4: what killed them, right, That's what's killed the Winstone things,

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Speaker 4: this crazy incredible deal by holding the government to ransom.

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Speaker 4: But and in between would be sorting a system where

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Speaker 4: you can't have spot electricity prices going up by seven

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a busy. It's come to it, a nick.

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Speaker 5: I've got a simple theory to it all. Really, the

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Speaker 5: electricity thing is really out of control. Right, the government

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Speaker 5: of holds the power of everything with electricity.

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Speaker 3: Let's be really perfectly clear about it.

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Speaker 5: Why don't they actually give interest free loans to every

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Speaker 5: New Zealander to put bloom in the greenhouse glass things

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Speaker 5: on top of their roofs, and let solar panels, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: solar panels and make it much more simple.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm really starting to get this is really bad.

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Speaker 5: The fact that a company has to close down because

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is really bad, isn't it this. We're

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Well, but we're getting there, aren't we, Toby.

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Speaker 4: I just think I just think governments of both stripes

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Speaker 4: have got a lot to answer for here. The system

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Speaker 4: hasn't been working for a long time, and it's just

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Speaker 4: really sad that there are a whole bunch of people

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Speaker 4: who you won't blame them. The first and that be

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Speaker 4: doing is getting on a plane to Australia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah too, right. The Well, okay, guys, we'll come back

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Speaker 2: to you very shortly and we'll talk about whether we

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Speaker 2: are actually going backwards into third world status and being

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Speaker 2: too gloomy about.

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Speaker 1: It the Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, exceptional

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Speaker 2: The energy prices didn't kill the Mills. Get real. It's

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Speaker 2: far deeper than that, Barry. You make a good point.

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Speaker 2: It is also obviously the pulp prices, but it is

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Speaker 2: also the energy prices. Back with the Huddle, Nick Mills

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Speaker 2: and Toby man High. Nick, do you think Patrick Smelly

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Speaker 2: is right in saying we're too gloomy and we need

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Speaker 2: to cheer up one hundred percent?

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Speaker 5: I'm really been trying to do that on my show.

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Speaker 5: I'm even trying to work out one of the good

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Speaker 5: we've just had two fabulous days of weather or Wellington

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Speaker 3: Let's start smiling, Let's start and enjoy.

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Speaker 5: We're at a tough time, we're still there, but let's

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Speaker 5: smile about it. You know, whenever you feel really down

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Speaker 5: and you smile, no matter how down you feel, you

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Speaker 4: You're about to break into song.

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Speaker 3: There, this is great.

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Speaker 2: You know what, when you're finished with your job, Nick,

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Speaker 2: you can become a motivational speaker, and that can literally

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Speaker 2: just be the thing that you go around telling people, Toby,

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon? I mean, look, we are gloomy.

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Speaker 2: The question is are we unjustifiably gloomy or is it justified?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's great to have Patrick Smelly back on Big

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Speaker 4: Smelly Head myself, although whether or not he got an

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Speaker 4: from everyone. You know, people don't people who come here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good point.

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Speaker 4: So this so there's a little bit of this kind

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Speaker 4: John Clark. We don't know how lucky we are. I

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Speaker 4: an enormous amount of vantages. I wouldn't want to live

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Speaker 5: No, do you have anything what neck Oh gosh, put

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Speaker 5: me in Melbourne tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: In Melbourne tomorrow, personality Nick saying we've got to be happy.

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Speaker 2: But then you want to move to Melbourne.

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Speaker 4: Is he wants he wants to be happy on a

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Speaker 3: I think I'd be happier Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: You why.

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Speaker 5: I think free transport around the city, and the city

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Speaker 5: become more successful. We've got better willing to We've got

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Speaker 5: this council of doing exactly the same thing in Willington,

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Speaker 5: but we just haven't felt fallen in love with them yet.

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Speaker 2: No, but your counsel sucks. I mean, I feel for you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, are we justified in being as gloomy as

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Speaker 5: You know what I started about two weeks ago because

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Down so everything.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm going to put a positive spin on you know,

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Speaker 5: the things that hit you in the between the eyes.

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Speaker 5: You think that's something in the last twenty five minutes,

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Speaker 5: and I'll feel fine again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get going again.

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Speaker 5: Hey, it has been really tough, but if we don't

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I've been doing is before I

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Speaker 2: go to sleep at night, I tell myself I'm grateful

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Speaker 2: Vitamin D. Do you want to try that?

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Speaker 3: When I go to bed at night, I pray for

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Speaker 3: what is that good night's slute? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you and I have got a we can

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Speaker 2: talk to each other about that because I've got a toddler. Hey, Deby,

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Speaker 2: I'm not entirely speaking of kids. I'm not entirely sure

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Speaker 2: that banning kids from social media is the answer.

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Speaker 4: Oh, this is the Australian government moving towards under fourteen.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: You're interesting, isn't it that? I mean, obviously everyone here.

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Speaker 4: I think just about everyone I talked to thinks that

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Speaker 4: the banning of social banning of phones and schools was

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Speaker 4: We've talked about this before, it's impact on kids. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if banning it's the answer. I don't know

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Speaker 4: the worry is to me, is when the kids disappear

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. That would help, wouldn't it, Nick,

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Speaker 2: if you know what the kids are doing on the phone.

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Speaker 5: The issue is and I work with a lot of

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Speaker 3: They said, how the hell are they get to beat?

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Speaker 5: I said, Australia's banning in Australia's banning, hell, tell us

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Speaker 5: how I don't believe there's any way, And like you

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Speaker 5: allowed to use it till he's fourteen. Dad sets them

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Speaker 5: not it's absolutely not forcible at all.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I think probably, actually, Toby. The only

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why I think we need to be

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Speaker 4: It's you know, in schools, my kids are getting lots

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Speaker 4: It's probably that us, the parents, who really need the

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Speaker 4: that me we can monitor what our kids are doing

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Speaker 4: because they're still young, they're still impressionable, and there is

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Speaker 3: Too, right. Hey.

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Speaker 5: Fortunately, the government spent thirty three million dollars with US

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Speaker 3: And we've just had a report out that said that

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Speaker 2: See, the kids even in schools the kids find a

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Speaker 2: way around it. Toby, congrats The spin Office. Ten Is

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Speaker 2: it today?

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Speaker 4: It is today? Yeah, it is today. It's crazy crazy,

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Speaker 4: isn't it. Yeah, a little little TV blog that grew

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Speaker 4: into into an unseemly forest in this day and age.

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Speaker 2: Unseemly forests in this day and age. It's a wonder

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Speaker 2: if anybody in the media survives. So to actually grow

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Speaker 2: Well done. Hey, thank you guys appreciated. Nick Mill's host

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Speaker 2: of Wellington Mornings and Toby man High the spinoff. I've

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