1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:12,693 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks B follow 2 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:16,173 Speaker 1: this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,653 --> 00:00:19,333 Speaker 2: Well, Lee Hart, he needs no introduction, but we'll give 4 00:00:19,372 --> 00:00:22,852 Speaker 2: him one anyway. He is this country's funniest and most 5 00:00:22,853 --> 00:00:27,693 Speaker 2: talented comedian, broadcaster and businessman. His business career continues to 6 00:00:27,732 --> 00:00:31,053 Speaker 2: saw with Snacker Changy Chips. He's launched the wildly popular 7 00:00:31,293 --> 00:00:34,172 Speaker 2: paid to talk show on podcast on Radio Hodaki, and 8 00:00:34,253 --> 00:00:36,732 Speaker 2: he's picked up the radio award for the best Sports 9 00:00:36,773 --> 00:00:40,172 Speaker 2: podcast for Sports Cafe Ish. It is a great pleasure 10 00:00:40,293 --> 00:00:42,973 Speaker 2: to welcome in as part of our Christmas catch ups 11 00:00:43,293 --> 00:00:45,213 Speaker 2: with kick Ass Kiwi's Lee Hart. 12 00:00:46,293 --> 00:00:50,293 Speaker 3: You that pleads to see you got the intro email G. 13 00:00:50,693 --> 00:00:52,453 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you for that. Yeah, well it saves 14 00:00:52,533 --> 00:00:53,133 Speaker 2: us a lot of hassle. 15 00:00:53,173 --> 00:00:55,573 Speaker 4: Well, if we go to that winning the podcast for 16 00:00:56,733 --> 00:00:58,813 Speaker 4: best Podcast, there was a toit of surprise for you. 17 00:00:58,813 --> 00:01:01,213 Speaker 4: You weren't there to win it, you didn't know you'd 18 00:01:01,253 --> 00:01:04,813 Speaker 4: be nominated and you went up and received it. 19 00:01:04,813 --> 00:01:06,212 Speaker 5: It was all a bit of a surprise for me 20 00:01:06,253 --> 00:01:06,973 Speaker 5: that one, wasn't it. 21 00:01:07,413 --> 00:01:10,013 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's out with mate, who were there, you know 22 00:01:10,813 --> 00:01:13,333 Speaker 3: for radio shows and other podcasts that kind of thing. 23 00:01:13,373 --> 00:01:15,373 Speaker 3: I was just sort of just snuck in and I 24 00:01:15,413 --> 00:01:16,613 Speaker 3: didn't even realize. 25 00:01:16,253 --> 00:01:16,973 Speaker 5: We were nominated. 26 00:01:16,973 --> 00:01:19,613 Speaker 3: Of course, casts and Rick certainly didn't jull me, and 27 00:01:20,533 --> 00:01:22,293 Speaker 3: so I was there and next thing I know, I 28 00:01:22,333 --> 00:01:24,693 Speaker 3: had to get on stage and probably make the worst 29 00:01:24,693 --> 00:01:26,493 Speaker 3: speech I've ever made. But in the end of the day, 30 00:01:26,493 --> 00:01:28,413 Speaker 3: it was on X behalf, so it didn't really matter. 31 00:01:29,253 --> 00:01:30,853 Speaker 2: When you're there for a few free drinks and you're 32 00:01:30,853 --> 00:01:32,333 Speaker 2: getting the ward lely, I mean, you know that's a 33 00:01:32,373 --> 00:01:33,292 Speaker 2: nice bonus, isn't it. 34 00:01:33,813 --> 00:01:39,012 Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly, But I've not I'd actually feel not to 35 00:01:39,053 --> 00:01:41,653 Speaker 3: win award, to be honest, better just known along, isn't it. 36 00:01:41,773 --> 00:01:42,533 Speaker 3: You know? Yeah? 37 00:01:42,533 --> 00:01:43,293 Speaker 5: I always thought about that. 38 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:45,693 Speaker 4: When I'm not known for a war, I'm always sitting 39 00:01:45,693 --> 00:01:47,653 Speaker 4: there going hope I don't win, because then I. 40 00:01:47,613 --> 00:01:48,373 Speaker 5: Have to do the speech. 41 00:01:48,653 --> 00:01:50,533 Speaker 4: How you're a man with that, with a million ideas, 42 00:01:50,573 --> 00:01:53,893 Speaker 4: always got something on the boil, Lee, You know what, 43 00:01:53,893 --> 00:01:56,093 Speaker 4: what ventures have you fired up this year that people 44 00:01:56,173 --> 00:01:58,453 Speaker 4: might not know about this year? 45 00:02:00,573 --> 00:02:03,253 Speaker 3: It's funny, isn't that, Because I'm just kept looking at 46 00:02:03,253 --> 00:02:07,172 Speaker 3: the calendar and the date, and I remember January last 47 00:02:07,253 --> 00:02:09,533 Speaker 3: year or this time the year. Thank god, next year 48 00:02:09,573 --> 00:02:11,013 Speaker 3: is going to be massive. I'm going to do all 49 00:02:11,013 --> 00:02:14,493 Speaker 3: these things I kept talking about on radio shows that 50 00:02:14,573 --> 00:02:16,373 Speaker 3: I go along and what's happening next to, you know, 51 00:02:16,413 --> 00:02:18,133 Speaker 3: talk about them trying to I should go back and 52 00:02:18,532 --> 00:02:20,613 Speaker 3: see what I mentioned. But I don't think I've done 53 00:02:20,653 --> 00:02:23,653 Speaker 3: any of it. I've sort of been busy. I fund 54 00:02:23,693 --> 00:02:27,013 Speaker 3: like I've been busy. I always like to do a 55 00:02:27,053 --> 00:02:29,973 Speaker 3: TV show every year if I can, sort of a 56 00:02:29,972 --> 00:02:33,173 Speaker 3: self indulgent kind of thing, a travel show or getting 57 00:02:33,213 --> 00:02:35,573 Speaker 3: around the place, And I've found I didn't do it 58 00:02:35,573 --> 00:02:39,493 Speaker 3: this year. So in many ways, I feel like I'm 59 00:02:39,493 --> 00:02:41,093 Speaker 3: not that I've let myself down. Well, what does it 60 00:02:41,173 --> 00:02:44,013 Speaker 3: dispute anyway? For a start, who watches them? But I 61 00:02:44,093 --> 00:02:46,573 Speaker 3: sort of feel that there's a gap there. But I 62 00:02:46,613 --> 00:02:49,132 Speaker 3: feel like I've been doing a lot of filming and stuff. Anyways, 63 00:02:49,213 --> 00:02:51,292 Speaker 3: I've been just as busy, but it just felt a 64 00:02:51,333 --> 00:02:53,093 Speaker 3: little lot more fragmented. Put it that way. 65 00:02:53,293 --> 00:02:55,053 Speaker 5: Well, I feel like I was on something. 66 00:02:55,252 --> 00:02:57,093 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I was on something that was 67 00:02:57,173 --> 00:02:59,933 Speaker 4: kind of TV like with you this year they paid 68 00:02:59,933 --> 00:03:00,692 Speaker 4: to talk podcast. 69 00:03:00,733 --> 00:03:01,333 Speaker 5: You're filming that? 70 00:03:02,413 --> 00:03:04,252 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I mean a lot of the podcast of 71 00:03:04,333 --> 00:03:06,653 Speaker 3: films nowadays, a lot of the radio shows of films, 72 00:03:06,733 --> 00:03:09,813 Speaker 3: So does that make a show that filmed a podcast 73 00:03:09,813 --> 00:03:11,973 Speaker 3: and vice versa. And I mean when I was doing radio, 74 00:03:12,013 --> 00:03:14,252 Speaker 3: of course a couple of years back. They started filming 75 00:03:14,252 --> 00:03:17,733 Speaker 3: stuff then, and I was always not uncomfortable that. I 76 00:03:17,733 --> 00:03:20,053 Speaker 3: was just thinking, well, at what point does this become 77 00:03:20,173 --> 00:03:23,293 Speaker 3: a TV show? If you know what I mean, and 78 00:03:23,373 --> 00:03:25,893 Speaker 3: the reason I say that, in my case, I perform 79 00:03:26,173 --> 00:03:29,373 Speaker 3: or act slightly different. When I'm doing radio. You sit 80 00:03:29,493 --> 00:03:33,053 Speaker 3: back and like and you it's a little bit more reactive. 81 00:03:33,133 --> 00:03:36,213 Speaker 3: I suppose with TV I'm a little bit more I 82 00:03:36,253 --> 00:03:40,253 Speaker 3: would take in trive, but yep, you're sort of sort 83 00:03:40,253 --> 00:03:42,413 Speaker 3: of more in control of it, I think, and I 84 00:03:42,493 --> 00:03:43,973 Speaker 3: like to think. I like to know what I'm doing 85 00:03:44,013 --> 00:03:47,253 Speaker 3: a bit more, and that what I liked about radio 86 00:03:47,293 --> 00:03:49,293 Speaker 3: you could relax. But also look, what I liked about 87 00:03:49,333 --> 00:03:54,173 Speaker 3: TV was, you know, you're making something that you might revisited, 88 00:03:54,213 --> 00:03:55,893 Speaker 3: I suppose and a few use time and watch again. 89 00:03:55,933 --> 00:03:59,573 Speaker 3: Whereas a radio, you know, can be as you guys 90 00:03:59,613 --> 00:04:02,653 Speaker 3: know it's that was that show last week and you 91 00:04:02,653 --> 00:04:06,172 Speaker 3: know it's of the day. 92 00:04:06,493 --> 00:04:08,013 Speaker 4: It's one of one of the worst things that happened 93 00:04:08,013 --> 00:04:09,733 Speaker 4: to radio was when they started filming it, and you 94 00:04:09,773 --> 00:04:12,893 Speaker 4: couldn't make up huge lies about where you were, You 95 00:04:12,933 --> 00:04:13,573 Speaker 4: couldn't pick. 96 00:04:13,413 --> 00:04:17,133 Speaker 5: You put Yeah, theater of the mine. You know, it's 97 00:04:17,173 --> 00:04:17,733 Speaker 5: a disaster. 98 00:04:19,053 --> 00:04:22,532 Speaker 3: Well, podcast seems sort of at the moment to slip 99 00:04:22,573 --> 00:04:24,893 Speaker 3: between the middle of that, a bit of a no 100 00:04:25,013 --> 00:04:27,293 Speaker 3: man's land turkey for me. You know. So I did 101 00:04:27,293 --> 00:04:29,453 Speaker 3: the podcast page to talk this year and I thought, well, 102 00:04:29,493 --> 00:04:31,253 Speaker 3: we might as well film it. As soon as we 103 00:04:31,253 --> 00:04:33,333 Speaker 3: started doing that, I'm thinking, well we might as well 104 00:04:36,253 --> 00:04:38,333 Speaker 3: as I do it at the Eco Lodge and trying 105 00:04:38,373 --> 00:04:41,413 Speaker 3: to add these I don't know, it's it's a funny one. 106 00:04:41,853 --> 00:04:43,013 Speaker 3: I still don't understand it. 107 00:04:43,093 --> 00:04:45,013 Speaker 2: Oh, I love it, matey. How are the chips going? 108 00:04:45,053 --> 00:04:46,493 Speaker 2: You had a big goal of getting a snack of 109 00:04:46,533 --> 00:04:49,693 Speaker 2: chiny chipped to every KEYWI. How did you go on 110 00:04:49,733 --> 00:04:51,253 Speaker 2: that journey? 111 00:04:52,133 --> 00:04:53,893 Speaker 3: Yeah? I hope you wouldn't bring that up and put 112 00:04:53,933 --> 00:04:57,773 Speaker 3: it asway the the reading call it. The promotion was 113 00:04:58,453 --> 00:05:01,173 Speaker 3: very popular. I think it was a bit bit ambitious 114 00:05:01,173 --> 00:05:03,133 Speaker 3: trying to get one chip to every k in the country, 115 00:05:03,293 --> 00:05:06,373 Speaker 3: but I tried. I did about probably less than one hundred. 116 00:05:06,813 --> 00:05:10,413 Speaker 3: And then then the community, so to speak, New Zealand 117 00:05:10,413 --> 00:05:12,733 Speaker 3: took over, which was kind of the deep an was 118 00:05:12,813 --> 00:05:14,613 Speaker 3: kind of the plan, I think, and it was it's 119 00:05:14,653 --> 00:05:17,213 Speaker 3: really good. And as I say, you know, thanks for asking, 120 00:05:17,213 --> 00:05:21,773 Speaker 3: the chips going are going really good. We like to think, 121 00:05:21,813 --> 00:05:24,133 Speaker 3: you know that that was the idea of the campaign 122 00:05:24,133 --> 00:05:26,853 Speaker 3: that you know, once everybody tries one, you know, I'm 123 00:05:26,853 --> 00:05:29,373 Speaker 3: buying large. Most people say, yeah, that's pretty damn good, 124 00:05:29,373 --> 00:05:29,533 Speaker 3: you know. 125 00:05:29,653 --> 00:05:30,733 Speaker 5: I mean, that's really good chips. 126 00:05:31,413 --> 00:05:33,973 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty basic chips, but you know you can 127 00:05:34,013 --> 00:05:36,493 Speaker 3: have you know, we like to think they're pretty good, 128 00:05:36,533 --> 00:05:39,013 Speaker 3: you know, and it's yeah, why not. 129 00:05:39,413 --> 00:05:41,853 Speaker 4: They're on any New Zealand flights now, which which I 130 00:05:41,893 --> 00:05:43,853 Speaker 4: was quite impressed by because you know, we've been friends 131 00:05:43,853 --> 00:05:48,133 Speaker 4: for a long time. Lee Hard and the whole ship 132 00:05:48,173 --> 00:05:51,133 Speaker 4: thing sort of surprised me because you know, you've done 133 00:05:51,133 --> 00:05:54,053 Speaker 4: a lot of stuff, and then the chips immediately tried them. 134 00:05:54,053 --> 00:05:55,693 Speaker 4: They were delicious, and I thought, well, he's just a 135 00:05:55,693 --> 00:05:56,893 Speaker 4: bit of a tie in. Here's a bit of a 136 00:05:56,933 --> 00:06:00,533 Speaker 4: novelty thing, Lise. He's doing a little thing, and then 137 00:06:00,573 --> 00:06:03,573 Speaker 4: it exploded into being one of the biggest things you've 138 00:06:03,613 --> 00:06:04,213 Speaker 4: ever done. 139 00:06:04,853 --> 00:06:07,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's kind of a comedy of therors. I mean, 140 00:06:07,453 --> 00:06:10,973 Speaker 3: it's like you know, something will stick eventually, you know, 141 00:06:13,973 --> 00:06:16,573 Speaker 3: I don't all the tvps and stuff, and the reason 142 00:06:16,693 --> 00:06:19,413 Speaker 3: I started beer brand first, and that was to try 143 00:06:19,453 --> 00:06:22,733 Speaker 3: to keep momentum going in between TV shows or funding grounds. 144 00:06:22,773 --> 00:06:26,053 Speaker 3: You know. That's like, so I thought, you know, let's 145 00:06:26,093 --> 00:06:28,213 Speaker 3: keep the momentum going so you can have a product 146 00:06:28,213 --> 00:06:30,053 Speaker 3: out there, you know, doing some work to you, you know, 147 00:06:30,213 --> 00:06:33,533 Speaker 3: where you're waiting to make another show. And the beers 148 00:06:33,773 --> 00:06:36,773 Speaker 3: took off, and that sort of had the same attitude, 149 00:06:36,853 --> 00:06:39,453 Speaker 3: et cetera, of a you know, sort of self deprecating 150 00:06:39,613 --> 00:06:41,373 Speaker 3: kind of thing, like a lot of the comedy I 151 00:06:41,373 --> 00:06:44,133 Speaker 3: supposed we were doing. And then when the beer it 152 00:06:44,213 --> 00:06:46,093 Speaker 3: was going fine as well, but you're kind of an 153 00:06:46,093 --> 00:06:47,973 Speaker 3: even new story the whole time. So I thought, what 154 00:06:48,053 --> 00:06:50,973 Speaker 3: the hell, why don't we get a snack to go 155 00:06:51,013 --> 00:06:53,453 Speaker 3: along with the beer. You know, it's an obvious thing 156 00:06:53,573 --> 00:06:55,333 Speaker 3: to do, and it'll be fun and I'm not thinking 157 00:06:55,373 --> 00:06:57,333 Speaker 3: too much of it. It was actually nuts that I 158 00:06:57,693 --> 00:07:02,373 Speaker 3: was thinking, I'm first, So I approached Griffin's and they said, oh, yep, 159 00:07:02,413 --> 00:07:04,053 Speaker 3: they'll give a go, and next thing, you know, we're 160 00:07:04,053 --> 00:07:08,733 Speaker 3: doing chips instead of nuts. And then there you go, 161 00:07:08,893 --> 00:07:10,893 Speaker 3: and it's sort of sort of taken off. So it's 162 00:07:10,933 --> 00:07:13,533 Speaker 3: kind of thirty years in the making, but it seems 163 00:07:13,653 --> 00:07:14,493 Speaker 3: very sudden. You know. 164 00:07:14,773 --> 00:07:18,093 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, as a businessman, how do you feel the 165 00:07:18,133 --> 00:07:19,213 Speaker 4: country is going? 166 00:07:20,373 --> 00:07:25,013 Speaker 3: Oh, as a businessman, Look, it's funny because I can 167 00:07:25,053 --> 00:07:29,453 Speaker 3: only I can only get a gauged from you know, 168 00:07:29,533 --> 00:07:31,773 Speaker 3: sort of news stories of seeing people out there and 169 00:07:31,853 --> 00:07:34,493 Speaker 3: my friends and family and people you know that have 170 00:07:34,853 --> 00:07:38,013 Speaker 3: got other you know, legitimate business and stuff and wetherip 171 00:07:38,053 --> 00:07:40,853 Speaker 3: are really still straggling out there, and some are saying 172 00:07:40,893 --> 00:07:44,853 Speaker 3: it's getting better, and some saying it's taking long to recover. 173 00:07:44,933 --> 00:07:47,813 Speaker 3: Then it should have the problem with the chip gag 174 00:07:47,973 --> 00:07:50,373 Speaker 3: for example, you remember COVID, for example, when everybody was 175 00:07:50,413 --> 00:07:55,413 Speaker 3: really struggling. Ironically, chips were selling, you know, I was 176 00:07:55,413 --> 00:07:58,973 Speaker 3: selling great in ze markets because that's all people were 177 00:07:58,973 --> 00:08:01,733 Speaker 3: doing for eating chips and things. And even in our 178 00:08:01,813 --> 00:08:04,773 Speaker 3: head even in sort of a type of times, you know, 179 00:08:05,533 --> 00:08:08,013 Speaker 3: you know, certain foods and stuff rightly wrong, they still 180 00:08:08,333 --> 00:08:10,093 Speaker 3: we'll get eaten. And I'm just not certainly not an 181 00:08:10,093 --> 00:08:12,573 Speaker 3: economy proof because you know, there's riding up and down 182 00:08:12,653 --> 00:08:16,093 Speaker 3: with the economy now. But I like to think it's 183 00:08:16,293 --> 00:08:20,053 Speaker 3: without I like to think it's getting better, but it's 184 00:08:20,053 --> 00:08:25,333 Speaker 3: slower than I thought, but you know, I can't complain 185 00:08:25,373 --> 00:08:27,133 Speaker 3: on that on that front. I do look out there. 186 00:08:27,173 --> 00:08:30,053 Speaker 3: I do worry about some you know, all the restaurants, cafes, 187 00:08:30,053 --> 00:08:31,853 Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff closing down and stuff, and 188 00:08:31,893 --> 00:08:34,733 Speaker 3: hoping there is you know, at the bottom at least, 189 00:08:34,773 --> 00:08:35,852 Speaker 3: and we're starting to come out of it. 190 00:08:35,893 --> 00:08:38,333 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm positive, man, next year, it feels 191 00:08:38,373 --> 00:08:40,093 Speaker 2: like there is some optimism of foot, which is a 192 00:08:40,133 --> 00:08:40,413 Speaker 2: good thing. 193 00:08:40,492 --> 00:08:40,612 Speaker 1: Lee. 194 00:08:40,732 --> 00:08:43,093 Speaker 2: This isn't a similar vein, but what is exciting you 195 00:08:43,653 --> 00:08:46,053 Speaker 2: as we in twenty twenty five and going into next year. 196 00:08:46,132 --> 00:08:48,132 Speaker 3: I could probably tell you sexually, but it doesn't seem 197 00:08:48,173 --> 00:08:50,373 Speaker 3: the time or place to be doing that, So instead 198 00:08:50,372 --> 00:08:53,012 Speaker 3: I'd sort of talk about next year. I'm hoping to 199 00:08:53,053 --> 00:08:56,372 Speaker 3: get back into some sort of TV I suppose, you know, 200 00:08:56,573 --> 00:08:58,893 Speaker 3: seeing I didn't do anything this year. The other thing 201 00:08:58,933 --> 00:09:00,733 Speaker 3: that's kind of excited me at the fact that my daughter, 202 00:09:00,852 --> 00:09:03,613 Speaker 3: my own issues off to university next year. So my 203 00:09:03,773 --> 00:09:07,093 Speaker 3: excitement is kind of you know, through her in away. 204 00:09:07,173 --> 00:09:09,252 Speaker 3: My sounds already down there. So I'll be here by 205 00:09:09,293 --> 00:09:12,893 Speaker 3: myself really in the house, like I'm sort of being Emptynester, 206 00:09:13,333 --> 00:09:16,052 Speaker 3: so I'll have no excuses not to get on and 207 00:09:16,333 --> 00:09:19,653 Speaker 3: then maybe do something to forget next year. But I'm 208 00:09:19,693 --> 00:09:21,533 Speaker 3: just really excited about her because you know she's going 209 00:09:21,573 --> 00:09:23,573 Speaker 3: down and you know you think back and you're going 210 00:09:23,612 --> 00:09:26,292 Speaker 3: to still old course. But that's so excited that the 211 00:09:26,372 --> 00:09:28,132 Speaker 3: whole idea of him so and I'll be able to 212 00:09:28,173 --> 00:09:31,413 Speaker 3: go down there and visit her and him, and that's 213 00:09:31,413 --> 00:09:33,652 Speaker 3: exciting me. So it's going to be a big year 214 00:09:33,693 --> 00:09:35,453 Speaker 3: either way, regardless of what I do, It's going to 215 00:09:35,492 --> 00:09:37,333 Speaker 3: be a big year, you know, for my family in 216 00:09:37,333 --> 00:09:39,093 Speaker 3: that sense. So that's exciting me. 217 00:09:39,293 --> 00:09:41,293 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an interesting one when your kids go off 218 00:09:41,333 --> 00:09:41,813 Speaker 5: to university. 219 00:09:41,852 --> 00:09:43,693 Speaker 4: And if you could visit my son down and Totago 220 00:09:43,732 --> 00:09:45,413 Speaker 4: as well, well you're down there, that would be great 221 00:09:45,453 --> 00:09:49,533 Speaker 4: for me as well. But the annoying thing about that 222 00:09:49,693 --> 00:09:51,933 Speaker 4: is that they don't know how great the situation is. 223 00:09:52,093 --> 00:09:55,612 Speaker 4: They're unecessarily and I was just saying to my son yesterday, 224 00:09:55,813 --> 00:09:57,973 Speaker 4: oh my god, I was just talking up his life 225 00:09:58,012 --> 00:10:01,053 Speaker 4: to him so much this holiday. You're on between years 226 00:10:01,093 --> 00:10:04,252 Speaker 4: of university. You know, you're off to a targo next year. 227 00:10:04,293 --> 00:10:06,973 Speaker 4: You've got this, you've got that, you're young, you've got 228 00:10:06,973 --> 00:10:09,412 Speaker 4: the whole. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I broke there, 229 00:10:09,492 --> 00:10:11,173 Speaker 4: you know. 230 00:10:10,693 --> 00:10:13,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they don't know. I mean, but we kids 231 00:10:13,693 --> 00:10:17,372 Speaker 3: the same, you know, you don't know how like you are, 232 00:10:17,492 --> 00:10:20,573 Speaker 3: you know in that sense. I mean they've got these 233 00:10:20,653 --> 00:10:22,652 Speaker 3: festivals doing things nowadays to go to and all this 234 00:10:22,693 --> 00:10:24,892 Speaker 3: sort of stuff, and it's all built in Their whole 235 00:10:25,653 --> 00:10:27,693 Speaker 3: time up is built around that kind of stuff, you know. 236 00:10:28,012 --> 00:10:31,373 Speaker 2: Yeah, really have that luxury suites of your life. Bugger 237 00:10:31,413 --> 00:10:33,773 Speaker 2: all responsibility. You can drink as much as you want, 238 00:10:34,012 --> 00:10:35,453 Speaker 2: you can do pretty much what you want. 239 00:10:35,612 --> 00:10:38,653 Speaker 4: You stay reasonably thin. Yeah, whatever you eat, whatever you do, 240 00:10:39,213 --> 00:10:42,133 Speaker 4: it's amazing. But you just you just got swirling drama 241 00:10:42,173 --> 00:10:44,252 Speaker 4: around you for some for some reason. 242 00:10:44,132 --> 00:10:46,893 Speaker 2: News talks it'd be. We are joined by the one 243 00:10:46,892 --> 00:10:49,373 Speaker 2: and only Lee Hard as part of our Christmas catch 244 00:10:49,453 --> 00:10:52,173 Speaker 2: Ups with Kick Cars Kiwi's Lee, thanks very much for 245 00:10:52,252 --> 00:10:52,772 Speaker 2: joining us. 246 00:10:53,053 --> 00:10:54,853 Speaker 4: When I came up with the name Christmas Ketchups with 247 00:10:55,132 --> 00:10:56,973 Speaker 4: Kick Ass Kiwis, I felt quite proud about it. But 248 00:10:56,973 --> 00:10:58,653 Speaker 4: every time you say it now I feel a little 249 00:10:58,653 --> 00:10:59,693 Speaker 4: bit humiliated. 250 00:11:00,293 --> 00:11:00,413 Speaker 3: Uh. 251 00:11:00,653 --> 00:11:02,493 Speaker 5: What does the Christmas menu look like for you? 252 00:11:02,612 --> 00:11:02,772 Speaker 2: Lee? 253 00:11:03,093 --> 00:11:06,573 Speaker 3: The menu? Ah, that's a good point. It's going to 254 00:11:06,573 --> 00:11:08,893 Speaker 3: be quite a quiet one, that's you hid glos. I 255 00:11:08,892 --> 00:11:10,372 Speaker 3: think it's just going to be me and my mom 256 00:11:10,413 --> 00:11:13,533 Speaker 3: and dad. My brothers will stay up here, and it's 257 00:11:13,533 --> 00:11:15,853 Speaker 3: just one of those years where it's that way, that way. 258 00:11:16,173 --> 00:11:18,333 Speaker 3: I think we've decided to go less through this time. 259 00:11:18,693 --> 00:11:20,773 Speaker 3: We will definitely have white bait in the morning on 260 00:11:20,852 --> 00:11:24,973 Speaker 3: Christmas Day, you know, late morning kind of thing. And 261 00:11:25,612 --> 00:11:27,413 Speaker 3: I can actually tell you something you because my mom 262 00:11:27,453 --> 00:11:30,413 Speaker 3: asked me, what would you do? I think we're going 263 00:11:30,453 --> 00:11:33,012 Speaker 3: to do a lamb roast. Nice, but rather than having 264 00:11:33,132 --> 00:11:35,652 Speaker 3: a lamb and a ham and a turkey, we think 265 00:11:35,653 --> 00:11:37,533 Speaker 3: we're just going to go with the lamb. Then I 266 00:11:37,573 --> 00:11:41,413 Speaker 3: heard Dad and yelling their background or maybe just a barbecue. 267 00:11:43,612 --> 00:11:46,413 Speaker 3: That could change the last minute. But it's going to 268 00:11:46,453 --> 00:11:48,492 Speaker 3: be pretty low key, you know, if week and stuff, 269 00:11:48,492 --> 00:11:50,612 Speaker 3: that's what up. And as far as you know, I'll 270 00:11:50,653 --> 00:11:54,372 Speaker 3: be surprised. It should be pretty basic, pretty basic stuff. 271 00:11:54,413 --> 00:11:56,373 Speaker 2: That sounds like a great time. Are the beast and 272 00:11:56,413 --> 00:11:58,612 Speaker 2: worst things about the feast of seasonally. 273 00:11:59,573 --> 00:12:03,293 Speaker 3: Well, the worst things are probably doing these sort of 274 00:12:03,293 --> 00:12:09,093 Speaker 3: puff pieces on newspapers and radio and that about Christmas. No, 275 00:12:09,252 --> 00:12:11,973 Speaker 3: actually I like Christmas. I like the whole sort of thing, 276 00:12:12,012 --> 00:12:14,892 Speaker 3: and you know, and I lose track of days and 277 00:12:14,973 --> 00:12:17,973 Speaker 3: twenty seven. Is that before Christmas? That's why it's after Christmas. 278 00:12:18,012 --> 00:12:20,853 Speaker 3: You know, I like Christmas. I'm the thinking back to 279 00:12:21,852 --> 00:12:24,292 Speaker 3: the whole commercialism side of it in the last few 280 00:12:24,372 --> 00:12:26,933 Speaker 3: years has started to annoy me a little bit. You know, 281 00:12:27,973 --> 00:12:30,813 Speaker 3: you got washing, you know, going shopping walls, and I 282 00:12:30,813 --> 00:12:33,573 Speaker 3: don't actually shop for anyone anymore now when i'm sort 283 00:12:33,612 --> 00:12:35,973 Speaker 3: of somehow that sounds worn down, and no one seems 284 00:12:36,012 --> 00:12:40,012 Speaker 3: to shop for me, So there's not so much of 285 00:12:40,053 --> 00:12:42,493 Speaker 3: that going on. My kids, obviously, I'll get them something, 286 00:12:42,813 --> 00:12:44,612 Speaker 3: but I think that's probably just the person in cash. 287 00:12:44,653 --> 00:12:48,772 Speaker 3: I think before they went away anywhere. We'll see about that. 288 00:12:49,012 --> 00:12:51,492 Speaker 3: But the worst things I remember some of the worst 289 00:12:51,492 --> 00:12:53,933 Speaker 3: gifts I got. So for example, when I was a kid, 290 00:12:54,933 --> 00:12:57,813 Speaker 3: there's different times, of course, you know. I remember what 291 00:12:57,852 --> 00:13:01,453 Speaker 3: I wanted was a brand new Tensby bike. You know, 292 00:13:01,612 --> 00:13:03,253 Speaker 3: like a lot of kids when they were like eight 293 00:13:03,333 --> 00:13:05,652 Speaker 3: or nine or ten were trying to get gund of thing. 294 00:13:06,213 --> 00:13:08,772 Speaker 3: And this year I just got the ac combinationation lot 295 00:13:08,773 --> 00:13:10,733 Speaker 3: for one, you know, you know, the secretly the lock 296 00:13:11,372 --> 00:13:13,453 Speaker 3: and that was that was under the tree and I thought, wow, 297 00:13:13,573 --> 00:13:17,372 Speaker 3: that's amazing. Mean the bike must be outside and it wasn't. 298 00:13:17,413 --> 00:13:19,973 Speaker 3: It was just that and all the other kids got 299 00:13:20,693 --> 00:13:23,412 Speaker 3: a bike and stuff now hanging out of the thell 300 00:13:23,453 --> 00:13:26,573 Speaker 3: be hanging down to the bike d with their bikes, 301 00:13:26,573 --> 00:13:29,173 Speaker 3: and I just been standing there with with the combination chain. 302 00:13:29,372 --> 00:13:33,573 Speaker 3: You know, I'm locking it and locking it and I'm 303 00:13:33,612 --> 00:13:35,813 Speaker 3: locking it again. I remember saying to Dad, you know, 304 00:13:36,173 --> 00:13:40,693 Speaker 3: that's not fair, Dad, and he goes life not Life's 305 00:13:40,693 --> 00:13:47,012 Speaker 3: not fair so much so that was that there was 306 00:13:47,173 --> 00:13:49,373 Speaker 3: The gift was a lesson more than when. 307 00:13:49,213 --> 00:13:53,093 Speaker 5: A lo Kids love a gift. That's a listener. 308 00:13:54,933 --> 00:13:57,732 Speaker 3: I don't know, I should maybe retract. My parents will 309 00:13:58,053 --> 00:14:02,093 Speaker 3: be listening to this, so it could be that gets 310 00:14:02,093 --> 00:14:02,292 Speaker 3: through it. 311 00:14:04,333 --> 00:14:06,573 Speaker 5: It's hard to retract. It's out there. It's life now. 312 00:14:07,093 --> 00:14:09,252 Speaker 4: It's interesting you say that about commun because I watched 313 00:14:09,333 --> 00:14:12,253 Speaker 4: Charlie Brown Christmas from nineteen sixty five. You can watch 314 00:14:12,293 --> 00:14:15,613 Speaker 4: it on Apple TV, and I've always loved the music 315 00:14:15,653 --> 00:14:17,813 Speaker 4: to it. I listened to that every year, the jazzy 316 00:14:17,892 --> 00:14:19,893 Speaker 4: kind of Christmas stuff, and the whole theme of that 317 00:14:19,973 --> 00:14:23,293 Speaker 4: in ninety sixty five was the rant commercialization of Christmas. 318 00:14:23,293 --> 00:14:24,773 Speaker 4: It's the whole theme of it. And I was thinking, 319 00:14:25,373 --> 00:14:28,853 Speaker 4: you don't know what's coming. You wait, Charles Seltz, you 320 00:14:28,893 --> 00:14:31,013 Speaker 4: do not know what's coming. If you think Christmas is 321 00:14:31,013 --> 00:14:32,693 Speaker 4: commercial is nineteen sixty five? 322 00:14:33,053 --> 00:14:36,733 Speaker 3: You just Boxing Days sales? That that is almost criminal, 323 00:14:36,813 --> 00:14:38,093 Speaker 3: isn't it. Yeah? 324 00:14:38,413 --> 00:14:41,453 Speaker 4: Well, as a concept, yeah yeah, Well it's just like 325 00:14:41,653 --> 00:14:44,093 Speaker 4: we're going to play you for your caring about Christmas 326 00:14:44,173 --> 00:14:46,013 Speaker 4: and then and then you know, if you don't care, 327 00:14:46,093 --> 00:14:47,853 Speaker 4: then we'll give you a deal all. 328 00:14:47,773 --> 00:14:48,973 Speaker 5: The day after well flee again. 329 00:14:49,533 --> 00:14:51,733 Speaker 4: We'll play you will clearly play your emotions. 330 00:14:53,133 --> 00:14:54,773 Speaker 3: I mean, it's all right if you're trying to get 331 00:14:54,813 --> 00:14:58,013 Speaker 3: in like a TV for yourself or something or you 332 00:14:58,013 --> 00:14:59,813 Speaker 3: you know, but if your kids are waiting for Christmas 333 00:14:59,813 --> 00:15:01,493 Speaker 3: present and you say, look, I just wait a couple 334 00:15:01,533 --> 00:15:06,093 Speaker 3: of days to Christmas before you get the present, you know, 335 00:15:07,373 --> 00:15:10,173 Speaker 3: it seems that sort of having a double dipping. Really 336 00:15:10,173 --> 00:15:13,573 Speaker 3: they need to be with the you know, the Boxing 337 00:15:13,613 --> 00:15:17,813 Speaker 3: Day sales and the whole the whole Christmas free Christmas prices, 338 00:15:17,853 --> 00:15:18,173 Speaker 3: you know. 339 00:15:18,293 --> 00:15:20,173 Speaker 4: And the whole Christmas thing is let up with the 340 00:15:20,173 --> 00:15:23,333 Speaker 4: Black Friday sales as well. Now, Lee, we're pushing the 341 00:15:23,373 --> 00:15:26,453 Speaker 4: gratitude barrow hard on the show this year. So this 342 00:15:26,573 --> 00:15:29,013 Speaker 4: is a this is a cliched question for you. What 343 00:15:29,053 --> 00:15:30,493 Speaker 4: are you grateful for, mate. 344 00:15:33,853 --> 00:15:36,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it might be a cliche question, so I'll 345 00:15:36,333 --> 00:15:37,453 Speaker 3: give a cliche. 346 00:15:37,173 --> 00:15:38,453 Speaker 5: Answer and appreciate. 347 00:15:40,893 --> 00:15:42,893 Speaker 3: And you can quote me on this. It's got to 348 00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:45,493 Speaker 3: be family really has been in the last couple of years. 349 00:15:46,533 --> 00:15:50,573 Speaker 3: It's a really interesting time with them, you know, moving 350 00:15:50,613 --> 00:15:53,293 Speaker 3: on are there and you know, as we know, there's 351 00:15:53,293 --> 00:15:56,813 Speaker 3: always some people in your life, even this week that 352 00:15:56,893 --> 00:15:59,813 Speaker 3: you know that have lost lost people, you know, literally 353 00:15:59,853 --> 00:16:04,093 Speaker 3: lost people. You know. That puts everything in perspective, and 354 00:16:04,133 --> 00:16:07,613 Speaker 3: it's just such a you know, it really does. Also 355 00:16:07,653 --> 00:16:10,613 Speaker 3: a few know wants this day, you know, and relatively 356 00:16:10,653 --> 00:16:14,093 Speaker 3: young person, you know, so what and you know we've 357 00:16:14,133 --> 00:16:18,213 Speaker 3: lost a family member not so long ago, you know, 358 00:16:18,333 --> 00:16:21,373 Speaker 3: and that's going to make this Christmas very very strange 359 00:16:21,373 --> 00:16:23,733 Speaker 3: and hard and different for a lot so many people 360 00:16:23,773 --> 00:16:26,973 Speaker 3: this country, you know, just so so many people. It 361 00:16:27,013 --> 00:16:29,213 Speaker 3: would be a weird, weird Christmas as it is every year. 362 00:16:29,493 --> 00:16:33,013 Speaker 3: So while I can be I'm just so thankful for 363 00:16:33,213 --> 00:16:34,933 Speaker 3: what I got to be honest with my family. 364 00:16:35,133 --> 00:16:38,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, beautifully said Ley. And finally, mate, what is your 365 00:16:38,453 --> 00:16:39,373 Speaker 2: favorite Christmas song? 366 00:16:39,853 --> 00:16:42,693 Speaker 3: Yep, I've got a couple. I'm an old rocket roller 367 00:16:42,733 --> 00:16:45,773 Speaker 3: from from way back because Matt knows like literally rock 368 00:16:45,813 --> 00:16:48,333 Speaker 3: and roll, like Chuck Berry kind of stuff. So he 369 00:16:48,413 --> 00:16:50,773 Speaker 3: has a classic, you know, run Run Rudolph or Run 370 00:16:50,853 --> 00:16:53,053 Speaker 3: Rudolf Run. I think it's called a lot of people 371 00:16:53,053 --> 00:16:55,093 Speaker 3: have covered it, the food Fighters that are good cover 372 00:16:55,173 --> 00:16:58,093 Speaker 3: of it, I think, and I hate to say it. 373 00:16:58,213 --> 00:16:59,853 Speaker 3: You know they're going back down the piece hal with 374 00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:04,292 Speaker 3: a cheese angle, you know, the old band. You know, 375 00:17:04,373 --> 00:17:07,413 Speaker 3: do they know it's Christmas band aid? I mean that 376 00:17:07,973 --> 00:17:10,173 Speaker 3: probably because of the eraror you know that was my 377 00:17:10,933 --> 00:17:13,093 Speaker 3: era I was fourteen or something that came out, So 378 00:17:13,493 --> 00:17:17,453 Speaker 3: it's nostalgic. It's nostalgic as well as a Christmas song 379 00:17:17,493 --> 00:17:19,053 Speaker 3: for me, know, I mean it's got a double meaning. 380 00:17:19,413 --> 00:17:23,133 Speaker 3: I just remember being bloody fourteen fifteen the whole overhead 381 00:17:23,133 --> 00:17:25,533 Speaker 3: of me, and that still sounds you know, it sounds 382 00:17:25,533 --> 00:17:28,413 Speaker 3: fash So it's the sort of thing you know. I'll 383 00:17:28,413 --> 00:17:30,973 Speaker 3: play that for sure, and a bit of rock and 384 00:17:31,053 --> 00:17:33,133 Speaker 3: roll Run Rude off Run fantastic. 385 00:17:33,133 --> 00:17:35,453 Speaker 2: We're going to play that for you right now, Lee, 386 00:17:35,613 --> 00:17:38,532 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and have a fantastic Christmas in 387 00:17:38,613 --> 00:17:40,253 Speaker 2: summer as well. We'll catch up next year. 388 00:17:40,613 --> 00:17:42,893 Speaker 3: Yeah. Likewise, you guys, have a good one. Everyone stay 389 00:17:42,933 --> 00:17:46,812 Speaker 3: safe from between the lanes. No, it's from between the flowers. 390 00:17:48,333 --> 00:17:50,453 Speaker 3: Drive between the range and from between the flowers. Yeah. 391 00:17:50,733 --> 00:17:52,013 Speaker 5: Good advice, Yeah, great advice. 392 00:17:52,093 --> 00:17:55,053 Speaker 2: Yeah fantastic. That is, of course, Lee Heart one of 393 00:17:55,053 --> 00:17:57,933 Speaker 2: our Christmas catch ups with kick Ass kiwis you're listening 394 00:17:57,973 --> 00:17:59,773 Speaker 2: to News Talks here b beg very soon? 395 00:18:06,533 --> 00:18:07,853 Speaker 5: Not a the range. 396 00:18:08,413 --> 00:18:14,933 Speaker 6: Oh you're the mastermind. Run run Rudolf, run off, make 397 00:18:15,013 --> 00:18:21,213 Speaker 6: you far behind, run run rude alf Ran and gotta 398 00:18:21,293 --> 00:18:27,053 Speaker 6: make it to town Santra making Harry Clellan he can 399 00:18:27,133 --> 00:18:32,773 Speaker 6: take the freeway down. Run run the rude ol couse, 400 00:18:32,853 --> 00:18:34,013 Speaker 6: I'm really not gonna. 401 00:18:33,813 --> 00:18:34,653 Speaker 5: Merry go round 402 00:18:39,253 --> 00:18:41,853 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b listen live on 403 00:18:41,973 --> 00:18:44,933 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 404 00:18:44,973 --> 00:18:47,573 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio