1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,773 Speaker 1: from news Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:16,333 Speaker 2: At BE sustainability expert Kate hall A ka Ethically Kate 4 00:00:16,493 --> 00:00:20,253 Speaker 2: is with us this morning morning A. 5 00:00:19,213 --> 00:00:21,373 Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning from down south. 6 00:00:21,533 --> 00:00:23,173 Speaker 2: Oh where are you down south? 7 00:00:24,533 --> 00:00:27,773 Speaker 3: I am in Otamatata. 8 00:00:28,213 --> 00:00:30,293 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, kind of. 9 00:00:30,333 --> 00:00:34,213 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on a high country farm. Uh yeah, just 10 00:00:34,293 --> 00:00:37,493 Speaker 3: right in the middle of There's not much green here, dusty, 11 00:00:37,573 --> 00:00:40,533 Speaker 3: kind of barren land, but it's so stunning beauty. 12 00:00:40,573 --> 00:00:43,453 Speaker 2: I mean there's there's like down by beIN More kind 13 00:00:43,453 --> 00:00:46,093 Speaker 2: of area, isn't it yes, ye yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh 14 00:00:46,213 --> 00:00:49,853 Speaker 2: that's a beautiful yeah yeah, kind of all madamers just 15 00:00:49,933 --> 00:00:53,813 Speaker 2: up the road kind of central Otago. Yeah. So if 16 00:00:53,813 --> 00:00:56,853 Speaker 2: you were kind of if you're driving from from like 17 00:00:57,013 --> 00:01:02,173 Speaker 2: Warka through to Waimati or Wamao on the on the 18 00:01:03,293 --> 00:01:04,773 Speaker 2: on the east coast of the South Island, kind of 19 00:01:04,773 --> 00:01:09,293 Speaker 2: north Otago, that's where you are, right. It's yeh, it's beautiful. 20 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:11,773 Speaker 2: That is an absolutely stunning part of the country. 21 00:01:11,973 --> 00:01:13,013 Speaker 3: Quite different to the north. 22 00:01:13,093 --> 00:01:14,973 Speaker 2: I was going to say, yeah, it's kind of way tucky, 23 00:01:15,053 --> 00:01:17,453 Speaker 2: ya I think, yeah, which is yea beautiful, beautiful part 24 00:01:17,493 --> 00:01:20,413 Speaker 2: of the country. Anyway, Hey, this move this morning, Kate. 25 00:01:20,453 --> 00:01:23,133 Speaker 2: We're talking veggie boxes, and I think lots of us 26 00:01:23,133 --> 00:01:25,733 Speaker 2: have experimented with different ways of getting produced and fruit 27 00:01:25,773 --> 00:01:29,293 Speaker 2: and vegies and groceries over the last few years. You know, 28 00:01:29,333 --> 00:01:33,893 Speaker 2: you've got various grocery and food subscription services, but you 29 00:01:34,053 --> 00:01:37,573 Speaker 2: have been subscribing to, like a locally grown fruit and 30 00:01:37,693 --> 00:01:41,413 Speaker 2: vegetable box and comparing that with the offerings at your supermarket. 31 00:01:41,453 --> 00:01:45,013 Speaker 2: And it turns out that actually getting your produce from 32 00:01:45,053 --> 00:01:49,293 Speaker 2: a local veggie box company isn't any more expensive than 33 00:01:49,293 --> 00:01:50,093 Speaker 2: going to the supermarket. 34 00:01:51,293 --> 00:01:55,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, well often actually it's cheaper. And I think people 35 00:01:55,933 --> 00:01:58,373 Speaker 3: they have this perception that going to the farmer's market 36 00:01:58,573 --> 00:02:03,653 Speaker 3: or getting that locally produced organic box delivered to their 37 00:02:03,693 --> 00:02:06,053 Speaker 3: door is going to be so much more expensive and 38 00:02:06,093 --> 00:02:08,453 Speaker 3: we're all trying to save at the moment in particular, 39 00:02:09,213 --> 00:02:12,173 Speaker 3: but it's actually cheaper. I did a comparison of an 40 00:02:12,253 --> 00:02:15,733 Speaker 3: organic fruit and veggie box compared with you know, if 41 00:02:15,773 --> 00:02:19,253 Speaker 3: I bought every kind of item at a local countdown, 42 00:02:19,693 --> 00:02:24,253 Speaker 3: and it was twenty two dollars and thirteen cents cheaper 43 00:02:25,573 --> 00:02:28,493 Speaker 3: to get the box, and that was a delivery considering 44 00:02:28,653 --> 00:02:31,533 Speaker 3: as well. So I think we need to really just 45 00:02:31,613 --> 00:02:34,853 Speaker 3: bust that meth of Oh, farmer's markets are so expensive 46 00:02:35,053 --> 00:02:39,733 Speaker 3: and you know, organic and more boutique stores, they're just 47 00:02:39,773 --> 00:02:42,293 Speaker 3: so much more expensive. I'm just going to enter the 48 00:02:42,293 --> 00:02:45,413 Speaker 3: supermarket and get it all there, because it's we're going 49 00:02:45,493 --> 00:02:48,933 Speaker 3: to save money and we're supporting you know, local farmers 50 00:02:49,173 --> 00:02:54,173 Speaker 3: and local smaller organizations who, yeah, observe our money much 51 00:02:54,213 --> 00:02:54,893 Speaker 3: more usually. 52 00:02:55,133 --> 00:02:58,493 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean certainly supporting local makes a lot 53 00:02:58,533 --> 00:03:00,413 Speaker 2: of sense. And the good thing with the with like 54 00:03:00,413 --> 00:03:02,893 Speaker 2: getting a fruit and veggie box is that you can 55 00:03:02,933 --> 00:03:05,093 Speaker 2: be pretty confident that the stuff you're getting is in 56 00:03:05,213 --> 00:03:09,773 Speaker 2: season right, yes, hasn't been flown in from some you know, 57 00:03:09,933 --> 00:03:12,493 Speaker 2: tropical corner of the world. You can be pretty confident 58 00:03:12,533 --> 00:03:14,893 Speaker 2: that actually this is in season. It means its gonna 59 00:03:14,893 --> 00:03:18,373 Speaker 2: be really healthy and often cheaper as well. So what 60 00:03:18,493 --> 00:03:23,133 Speaker 2: kind of subscription services would you recommend from your research? 61 00:03:23,333 --> 00:03:24,693 Speaker 2: What might be some good options. 62 00:03:25,413 --> 00:03:28,613 Speaker 3: So one of my personal favorites is Misfit Garden, and 63 00:03:28,893 --> 00:03:32,253 Speaker 3: that's because it is i mean, it's not just a 64 00:03:32,373 --> 00:03:36,093 Speaker 3: great bang for your back, but it's also they work 65 00:03:36,173 --> 00:03:39,013 Speaker 3: directly with the farmers, so they asked the farmers and 66 00:03:39,053 --> 00:03:43,413 Speaker 3: communicate around Just so you said, seasonal fruit. But sometimes 67 00:03:43,453 --> 00:03:46,733 Speaker 3: some of their veges you are too big or too 68 00:03:46,773 --> 00:03:51,653 Speaker 3: small or like slightly just slightly not up to standards 69 00:03:51,693 --> 00:03:54,413 Speaker 3: for what we expect in a supermarket, which I think 70 00:03:54,493 --> 00:03:58,733 Speaker 3: is ridiculous, but here we are. So they work directly 71 00:03:58,733 --> 00:04:01,933 Speaker 3: with the farmers and put together a box. So it's 72 00:04:01,973 --> 00:04:06,253 Speaker 3: pretty exciting. I personally like the excitement of what arrives 73 00:04:07,373 --> 00:04:10,973 Speaker 3: with any box. You often, yeah, just don't know what's 74 00:04:10,973 --> 00:04:14,093 Speaker 3: gonna what's going to happen. So that is a brilliant one, 75 00:04:14,293 --> 00:04:17,853 Speaker 3: really really good. I've always had good experience with it 76 00:04:18,013 --> 00:04:21,413 Speaker 3: turning up and it's called misfit, but honestly, sometimes I'm like, 77 00:04:21,613 --> 00:04:25,293 Speaker 3: why is this stuff being rejected? It's crazy. We've got 78 00:04:25,653 --> 00:04:29,533 Speaker 3: wonky box. Most people know about place like Oxford Fresh 79 00:04:29,693 --> 00:04:34,093 Speaker 3: perfectly imperfect. Again, it's working with produce that is, you know, 80 00:04:34,173 --> 00:04:38,613 Speaker 3: slightly imperfect, but one hundred percent edible and you know 81 00:04:38,653 --> 00:04:41,853 Speaker 3: as often actually looks and tastes even more nutritious. 82 00:04:42,053 --> 00:04:44,373 Speaker 2: Yeah, so how do you how do you decide what 83 00:04:44,493 --> 00:04:46,293 Speaker 2: to cook because you don't know what's coming? 84 00:04:46,373 --> 00:04:46,573 Speaker 1: Right? 85 00:04:47,533 --> 00:04:50,973 Speaker 3: No, Well, I've actually never been a recipe or meal planner, 86 00:04:51,373 --> 00:04:54,533 Speaker 3: and yeah, I know a lot of people use recipes 87 00:04:54,533 --> 00:04:57,813 Speaker 3: and meal planning, you know, to reduce their food waste. 88 00:04:57,853 --> 00:05:00,693 Speaker 3: But for me, I find, you know, when I get 89 00:05:00,733 --> 00:05:04,013 Speaker 3: that box, firstly, it's taken away any decision fatigue. I 90 00:05:04,053 --> 00:05:06,733 Speaker 3: don't have to stand in the supermarket going should I 91 00:05:06,733 --> 00:05:09,813 Speaker 3: buy five apples or two? You know, it's like it's 92 00:05:09,893 --> 00:05:13,973 Speaker 3: just there. You get what you're given. And it forces 93 00:05:14,013 --> 00:05:17,133 Speaker 3: me to experiment with different foods, you know that, like 94 00:05:17,533 --> 00:05:22,453 Speaker 3: cole rabie or I personally don't love beetroot, but when 95 00:05:22,573 --> 00:05:25,013 Speaker 3: beat troots is in season and it's in the box, 96 00:05:25,533 --> 00:05:28,613 Speaker 3: I get, you know, experimental, and I've done things like 97 00:05:28,653 --> 00:05:32,133 Speaker 3: made beetroot brownie and you know it kind of forces 98 00:05:32,173 --> 00:05:33,093 Speaker 3: you out of your comfanyation. 99 00:05:34,453 --> 00:05:37,613 Speaker 2: Balsamic bego, Yeah that sounds good. 100 00:05:37,693 --> 00:05:43,773 Speaker 3: This sounds good too, yeah, chocolate brownie though, yeah. 101 00:05:43,893 --> 00:05:44,093 Speaker 1: Yeah. 102 00:05:44,173 --> 00:05:47,573 Speaker 3: So that's that's how I do. I know some people, 103 00:05:47,693 --> 00:05:50,293 Speaker 3: you know, struggle with not knowing exactly what's going to 104 00:05:50,373 --> 00:05:53,053 Speaker 3: turn out. But you can put a little notes and 105 00:05:53,093 --> 00:05:56,493 Speaker 3: this is for you know, most of the Vigie Box 106 00:05:56,533 --> 00:06:00,053 Speaker 3: subscriptions nationwide. You can put a note and say, you know, 107 00:06:00,133 --> 00:06:03,213 Speaker 3: I'm allergic to Mandarin's or you know, please don't put 108 00:06:03,213 --> 00:06:04,973 Speaker 3: in lettuce because we've got heaps of it in the 109 00:06:04,973 --> 00:06:08,933 Speaker 3: garden things like that. So you can't obviously fully curate 110 00:06:09,533 --> 00:06:12,293 Speaker 3: the box, but you can just add a few notes 111 00:06:12,333 --> 00:06:13,973 Speaker 3: and they're usually happy to oblige. 112 00:06:14,053 --> 00:06:15,453 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I was 113 00:06:15,493 --> 00:06:17,293 Speaker 2: going to say. The other option is this is what 114 00:06:17,333 --> 00:06:20,333 Speaker 2: AI is good at if it gives you your chance. No, 115 00:06:20,573 --> 00:06:22,293 Speaker 2: it really is, though. This is one of those good 116 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:24,253 Speaker 2: things where you can just be like, Okay, I've got 117 00:06:24,893 --> 00:06:31,053 Speaker 2: three beat roots, seven turnips and Amanda and what can 118 00:06:31,093 --> 00:06:34,573 Speaker 2: you make? And it'll go at fla, you know exactly. Yeah, yeah, 119 00:06:34,613 --> 00:06:37,213 Speaker 2: there you go. There you good. Okay, I know you've 120 00:06:37,213 --> 00:06:39,813 Speaker 2: You've got a great little collection of some of the 121 00:06:39,813 --> 00:06:42,973 Speaker 2: companies that you recommend on ethically Kate dot com, and 122 00:06:42,973 --> 00:06:45,213 Speaker 2: of course everyone can find you by searching the social 123 00:06:45,253 --> 00:06:48,333 Speaker 2: media platforms ethically Kate as well. Thank you so much, Kate. 124 00:06:48,493 --> 00:06:51,533 Speaker 2: Enjoy being in the beautiful South Island and we will 125 00:06:51,533 --> 00:06:53,293 Speaker 2: catch you again very soon. 126 00:06:53,973 --> 00:06:57,053 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 127 00:06:57,173 --> 00:06:59,973 Speaker 1: to news talks that'd be from nine am Saturday, or 128 00:07:00,053 --> 00:07:01,973 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.