1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: So the full driver's licensed tests are gone berger Instead, 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: under twenty fives will spend twelve months on a learner's license, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: zero tolerance for booze on your learners or restricted from 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. Mark revel Johnson is president of the 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Institute of Driver Educators, joins us this morning. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: Hey Mark, good morning, Rang. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: The government says this is going to save people about 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: eighty bucks. Does that sound and marry up with what 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: you're seeing? 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, roughly in the in terms of cost of going 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 3: through the licensing process. 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think the roads will be more or 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: less safe? 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to change. It's certainly not 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: going to improve matters. Let's take for example, this twelve 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: months on the restricted phase and then no test. Let's 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: say you passed your restricted and then toddled off on 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: your Rowe went to one of the biggest cities in 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: Europe or wherever, and you live on and use public 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: transport for the year, come back and without having driven 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: another kilometer since your restricted test, you get your full license. 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: They talk about doing a number of hours before your 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: learners or that can reduce the number of the time 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: spent on your learner's license that way, I think that 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: would be better or or at least hav an additional 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: claws like that between between the restrictors and the. 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: Full Do you think that the cost and the second 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: practical taste for people is does put them off actually 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: finishing the job. 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: It's certainly a factor. I mean, let's say, say who 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 3: likes doing tests the Yeah, some people are very nervous 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: about it. As driving instructors, we see high anxiety rates 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: and much students for going for a restricted or a 34 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: full license test. That's that's a perfectly natural thing. The 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: driving instructors, of course can help you to prepare for 36 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: that so you feel more confident going into it. But 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: it's uh, yeah, people don't like doing tests, and with 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: a restricted license, if you're not driving at night, or 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: you're not driving friends around, there isn't really a lot 40 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: of incentive to go forward from there and to better 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: yourself as a what's the thing? 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: What is the one thing you think would actually make 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: people be the drivers? 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: More training and practical training is really the thing to do. 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: It's you know, we can link theory, and theory has 46 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: its place, but actually being behind the wheel with somebody 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: who can watch those little the little nuances of what 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: you're doing or not doing that can increase risk, that 49 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: can be that can be invaluable, Like, for example, if 50 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: you look at some of the failed failing, failing reasons 51 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 3: on the full license test, there's an awful lot of 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: people who are failing that test, and they're failing it 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: for crash promoting type behaviors, so speeding and not stopping 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 3: at stop signs and not not giving way properly quite important. Yeah, 55 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: important things in terms of risk, but you know this 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: is when the driver is supposed to be on the 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: best behavior. 58 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Make appreciate that. Update Mark revel Johnson, president 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: of the Institute of Driver Educators. 60 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: For more from Early edition with Ryan Bridge, Listen live 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: to news Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 3: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.