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Speaker 1: Interesting the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else news talks.

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Speaker 2: That be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: We are going to be bringing you the Melbourne Cup

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Speaker 4: race live. Also the Border Association, school Board Association angry

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Speaker 4: at Erica Stanford over the treaty reference Water Safety New Zealand,

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Speaker 4: disappointed at ACC over the funding cut and forrest and

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Speaker 4: burn on what you're supposed to do if a carrieria

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Speaker 4: starts attacking you while you're out on a walk.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I've got a question for you, and this is

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Speaker 4: a genuine question, It's not a rhetorical question. Do you

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Speaker 4: agree with the teacher unions that it's an outrage that

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Speaker 4: Erica Stanford is taking the treaty obligation out of the

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Speaker 4: Education Act or do you agree with Erica Stanford that

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Speaker 4: it needs to come out now. I'm asking you this

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Speaker 4: question because I honestly cannot understand why the teacher unions

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Speaker 4: to be a clear case that this should come out.

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Speaker 4: It hasn't helped lift Maldi achievement in the five years

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Speaker 4: it's been in the legislation. In fact, going by just

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Speaker 4: one metric, which is the proportion of Maori students leaving

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Speaker 4: It was twenty four percent in twenty twenty one, it's

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Speaker 4: now nearly twenty eight percent at last count. So if

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Speaker 4: all it is then is just virtue signaling and distracting

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Speaker 4: my question, because this is where I get confused. If

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Speaker 4: it doesn't have to be in there, then why are

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Speaker 4: teacher unions picking this fight? Why are they fighting for

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Speaker 4: yet another pet ideological project. Did they not learn from

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Speaker 4: the allergic reaction that parents had to the news that

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Speaker 4: the number one thing on the ppta's agenda for the

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Speaker 4: meeting with the minister was Palestine. That went down like

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Speaker 4: a cup of cold sick. Is it not obvious to

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Speaker 4: the unions that they are losing the patients of parents

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Speaker 4: who've already had a guts full of an education system

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Speaker 4: that isn't educating their kids and teacher unions making excuses

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Speaker 4: do more work. So it's one of two things that's

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Speaker 4: going on here for me right. Either teaching unions really

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Speaker 4: just cannot help themselves when it comes to get another

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Speaker 4: political distraction and a chance to give a national party

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Speaker 4: which is that they know that there is enormous support

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Speaker 4: treaty obligation for the boards of trustees. So is that happening?

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Speaker 4: Am I missing something here? Is their massive support out

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Speaker 4: burning parents goodwill because they can't help themselves yet again

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Speaker 4: fighting with a national led government yet again?

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Speaker 2: Heather d for see Allen.

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Speaker 3: Nine ninety.

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Speaker 4: Who's a text number? Stand a text peece of life?

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Speaker 4: That is the text number that you use? You let

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Speaker 4: me know what you think I want to know?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: We are less than an hour away now from the

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Speaker 4: big Melbourne Cup race at five o'clock. There's ten million

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Speaker 4: dollars up for grabs for the winner. Celebrities and punters

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Speaker 4: have been flooding into Flemington. One of them is our

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Speaker 4: Melbourne Cup correspondent Donna de Mayo. Who's with us? Now, Hey, Donna? Hello?

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Speaker 5: Am I a celebrity or a punter?

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Speaker 4: Mate? One hundred percent of celebrity. If somebody else, if

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Speaker 5: It's so nice to speak with you.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I am at Flemington and I have been coming

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Speaker 5: So we're up to it's one hundred and sixty five

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Speaker 6: Now, I know nothing about racing, just quietly so I

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Speaker 6: Ben Malham and he's on a New Zealand horse would.

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Speaker 5: You believe called Smoke in Romans?

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Speaker 6: Look, have never asked a Melbournie to talk about the

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Speaker 6: So the weather yesterday it was absolutely teeming. It was

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Speaker 5: It's just started spitting as I said it. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 6: I'm actually wearing a head piece that is going to

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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go. I'm literally running for cover as

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Speaker 6: It started spitting. You heard it first from the Melbourne Cup. Look,

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Speaker 6: But unfortunately, yes, and look, I am fortunate, Heather that

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Speaker 5: After I stopped speaking with you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now, Donna, have you seen anybody famous?

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Speaker 5: Okay, look, I'm gonna say it. It's a little bit

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Speaker 6: Michelle Monahan. She's a Hollywood star. She was in Mission

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Speaker 5: Are you familiar with him?

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Speaker 4: No, no idea, What are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: You go there, point made.

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Speaker 6: It's a little bit light on in regard to celebs,

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Speaker 4: How you're part of the world of the weekend. And

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Speaker 4: Go and look after your fascinator or your hat or

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Speaker 4: whatever it is. Donna Demeyer, our Melbourne Cup correspondent. Right,

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Speaker 4: texts have come in here you go, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Melbourne Cupp is live on news talk z Beat from

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Speaker 4: the start to the finish. You're going to know who's winning.

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Speaker 4: Stay with us, it's just after five o'clock here. The

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Speaker 4: keeping it there. Heather. The treaty inclusion doesn't have to

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Speaker 4: this country. Now, just okay, but you sent that text

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Speaker 4: explain to me how having the Boards of Trustees have

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Speaker 4: you what. When I was at school in the nineties.

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Speaker 4: Erica Stanford. She's spot on. Where was Henry the eighth

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Speaker 4: and the PPTA when kids, including Marty had their education?

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Speaker 4: That'd be either if I was the PPTA union, I'd

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Speaker 4: be very quiet their track record of academic achievement levels

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Speaker 4: prior to Eric Stanford or abysmal. Do you know what?

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Speaker 4: That's basically what I was trying to say. You wouldn't

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Speaker 7: A good Kiwi word that isn't it stink?

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Speaker 4: And I love that yeh, because you use it a lot.

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Speaker 4: Darcy looking to get to this Darcy water Grave Sports

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Speaker 4: They'd be They've been added again over in Australia and

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Speaker 4: Sober has any more, you know, any attention left for this. Frankly,

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Speaker 4: There's nothing, nothing's actually happened. They just keep fighting with

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Speaker 8: News is next, hard questions, strong opinion, Hither dup c

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Speaker 8: Ellen drive with One New Zealand and the power of

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Speaker 3: I remember when we were driving.

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Speaker 2: Driving in your cars.

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Speaker 3: It's a fast filler car. Seriously having bullets and your

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Speaker 4: Right, Barry? Such as the US and ten minutes. Murray

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Speaker 4: because it would appear that every single year they forgot,

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Speaker 4: we were all asked to take part in yesterday, she said.

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 4: So the US government shutdown has now been running for

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Speaker 11: Republicans in the House and the Senate have vote to

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Speaker 4: And finally, an EMU named Frank has been apprehended after

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Speaker 13: They didn't wrong about thirty miles an hour, and I

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Speaker 1: The bird International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace

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Speaker 4: So there's something if you ever find yourself having to

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Speaker 3: Very handy tip here the good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who knew? Hey, So you guys have to apparently

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Speaker 3: This is the big call. It's pretty interesting really. It's

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Speaker 3: The RBA is now expected to wait until at least

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Speaker 3: the second half of next year to resume cutting the caps.

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Speaker 4: Cool, Lee, Were you guys sitting on three point six

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Speaker 4: for basically the next year or so?

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Speaker 3: Well next to six months, that's what the market is

440
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Speaker 3: pricing in.

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Speaker 4: Interesting. Okay, Now what happened to the weapons expo?

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a couple of Israeli companies that are represented.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a big expo. It's one of the

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Speaker 3: biggest up we understand of the Southern hemisphere this year.

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Speaker 3: And at least one of the two Israeli companies that

446
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Speaker 3: is represented here hasn't Australian subsidiary. And so the protest

447
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Speaker 3: was organized by a group that's been around for ever

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Speaker 3: since October seven, this is the Palestine Action Group. They've

449
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Speaker 3: been protesting and said he it's about every single weekend.

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Speaker 3: And they turned out this morning and Darling Harbor, right

451
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Speaker 3: in the heart of the city police had set aside

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Speaker 3: an area for the protest, and they decided that wasn't

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Speaker 3: good enough and they moved off and tried to get

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Speaker 3: down to the water and Dowling Habor well, police horses

455
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Speaker 3: and so on. Were there. Ten people arrested, pepper spray

456
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Speaker 3: used and the state government making the point listen, knuckleheads,

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Speaker 3: this is an industry worth three point four billion dollars

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Speaker 3: to New South Wales alone. So if you think you're

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Speaker 3: going to try and stop at good luck, it's not

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Speaker 3: going to happen anytime soon.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what have you drawn for your sweep steak?

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Speaker 3: I wasn't in a sweep gambling. Oh, I hate gambling.

463
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Speaker 3: I've only ever had one bet in the Melbourne Cup

464
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Speaker 3: and that was when Kiwi won back in nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 4: And did you make money on it?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I only put ten dollars each way on it.

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Speaker 3: And I needed because I was so inexperienced. I needed

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Speaker 3: someone up at the tav to put the bed on

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Speaker 3: for me. I was hopeless.

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Speaker 4: All right, you have a much better reason than I do.

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Speaker 4: I just got left out of the sweep steak. That's

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Speaker 4: how much they like me. Mas. Okay, So what have

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Speaker 4: you been watching it though, even if you're not going

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Speaker 4: to bet on it?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just like watching all the young men

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Speaker 3: and women, you know, try and hop on the bus

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Speaker 3: on the way home after the big day out. There's

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Speaker 3: I heard you mentioned El Riffer. L Riffer will start

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Speaker 3: in barrier nineteen. He's the top weight with fifty nine kilos.

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Speaker 3: He is the favorite. One partner has put half a

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Speaker 3: million dollars on El Riffer to win three and a

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Speaker 3: half million dollars, so he is. He will start favorite.

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Speaker 3: You've got the core Field Cup winner half yours. If

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Speaker 3: you've got that horse, you've got a good chance. And

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Speaker 3: you've then got a presage nocturn. I think he's a

486
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Speaker 3: gray one. He looks lovely belly and king and bukaroo

487
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Speaker 3: on the very end of the other end Land legend

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Speaker 3: changing of the guard and something called Athabascan Athabascan and

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Speaker 3: with no idea how to say that they're paying up

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Speaker 3: at sixty bucks for the win. The track is going

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Speaker 3: to be soft because they've been rained down there and

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Speaker 3: they're jumping in about twenty minutes.

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Speaker 4: Oh good stuff. Yeah you really sure you know what

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Speaker 4: you're talking about there, muz, thanks very much. Murray Olds,

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Speaker 4: Australia correspondent, eighteen away from five.

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Speaker 2: Due for sel.

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Speaker 4: That's why the Australian Coat of Arms has an EMU

498
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Speaker 4: on it because they can only go forward as in

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Speaker 4: advance Australia. Scott, you literally made that up.

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Speaker 3: But I like it.

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Speaker 4: I don't lie. I don't mind a lie. I don't

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Speaker 4: mind a good lie like that. That's kind of funny. Now,

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Speaker 4: not good news for Water Safety New Zealand. ACC is

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Speaker 4: cutting its funding now. ACC puts an annually about a

505
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Speaker 4: million bucks or thereabouts into Water Safety New Zealand. What

506
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Speaker 4: because ACC, like every other government department at the moment,

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Speaker 4: is having to go through the books and see if

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Speaker 4: the money that the spending is actually making a difference.

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Speaker 4: And they said when they came to Water Safety New Zealand,

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Speaker 4: they can see no discernible reduction in drownings. So as

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Speaker 4: a result, the money's gone. Now, I mean, on principle,

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Speaker 4: I'm quite I'm into this cut the spending if the

513
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Speaker 4: spending is not actually achieving anything. But let's hear from

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Speaker 4: these guys at Water Safety New Zealand are going to

515
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Speaker 4: be with us after five o'clock. I spoke on the show.

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Speaker 4: I've just got to give you this really quick update.

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Speaker 4: I spoke on the show. Maybe it was it a

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Speaker 4: week ago, maybe a little bit more about wanting to

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Speaker 4: do with GOV. So here's the thing. I didn't this,

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Speaker 4: You've got to be fat. So I went into it

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Speaker 4: because this is what Laura said to me. She was

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Speaker 4: the German. The German has a name, It's Laura. Laura

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Speaker 4: said to me, no, mate, you can't. You BMI is

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Speaker 4: not high enough. So I went into the calculation on

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Speaker 4: my BMI and sure enough, I might be fat, but

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Speaker 4: I am not fat enough. I am not fat enough

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Speaker 4: for we GOV never mind. So that was that made

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Speaker 4: me spring of my step about that, and I at

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Speaker 4: least I'm not bad anyway. However, we have decided we

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Speaker 4: still need a shred for summer, so we have got

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Speaker 4: callow carb callow cub, callow cab. I don't even know

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Speaker 4: how to pronounce the stuff the beat. The Germans said,

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Speaker 4: I've got a bit of the stuff lying around the house.

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Speaker 4: That sounds like it's the worst medical thing ever. She

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Speaker 4: was like, I got some callow carb hang callow caub.

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Speaker 4: She thinks it's callum curb. I don't know anyway what

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Speaker 4: it is. It's a Kiwi product that is doing incredibly

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Speaker 4: well overseas because it basically mimics. It does the same

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Speaker 4: thing that we go V does. I'm doing a terrible

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Speaker 4: sales pitch for these guys anyway. So she has some

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Speaker 4: lying around the house, so she's brought it in today.

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Speaker 4: So this is what we're going to do. I'm going

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Speaker 4: to go home. I'm going to weigh myself tomorrow. I'm

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Speaker 4: going to start doing that. The natural will go vy

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Speaker 4: and then let's see if by summer I can look

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Speaker 4: like I didn't have two children and just be wrapped

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Speaker 4: in hot Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I know it does not come to medical advice.

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Speaker 4: Not medical advice. You probably don't care, but now you

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Speaker 4: know my life story.

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Speaker 1: Quard to to the politics with centric credit, check your

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Speaker 1: customers and get payment certainy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some funny little things about labour CGT you might

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Speaker 4: want to hear. I'll tell you about that before five.

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Speaker 4: It's thirteen away from five. Barry so Per, Senior political

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Speaker 4: Correspondence with US haller Berry.

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Speaker 9: Good afternoon, Hither I got the inside tip for the

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Speaker 9: Melbourne Drew I Drew changing of the guard. Is there

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Speaker 9: you go paying over one hundred dollars a TP.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you're going to be really rich if that comes in.

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Speaker 9: Well, at least I got into the sweep.

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Speaker 4: Hey, so is the Maori Party finally feeding the white

563
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Speaker 4: feeding frenzy?

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Speaker 9: Well, yes they are, which I've finally.

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Speaker 15: Talking to the PARKI how media fascinating wife to you,

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Speaker 15: who of course has been over the seas recently in

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Speaker 15: China with a Kappa Harker group. He arrived at Parliament

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Speaker 15: this morning alongside his father in law, John Tamaherry, who

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Speaker 15: happens to be the president of the party, and his

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Speaker 15: own wife, Kurrie Tamaherry Hitt, who's Tamahiri's daughter who works

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Speaker 15: for Whitet or the party at Parliament. So they were

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Speaker 15: standing nearby Whitet when he talked to the media talk

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Speaker 15: to the media in English, which was great because he's

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Speaker 15: refused to up until now. It's hardly surprising though that

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Speaker 15: Whitt supports the position being taken by his father in law,

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Speaker 15: considering his standing just almost beside him. He wants Kuppa,

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Speaker 15: Kingy and Pharis expelled from the party.

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Speaker 10: I support all the sentiments laid out by John Tomeri

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Speaker 10: in this post. We've been able to build this party

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Speaker 10: from no MPs and within one term to six MPs,

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Speaker 10: so we know what it takes, we know what the

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Speaker 10: work requires in order to build a movement, and we

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Speaker 10: will always be committed to ensuring that the our people

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Speaker 10: have voice in this House. And the thing is their

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Speaker 10: MPs you cannot you can't even invoke if you're if

586
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Speaker 10: that's the question you're asking you about the jumpy thing,

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Speaker 10: because they are MPs of those particular and electates. Their

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Speaker 10: electrics will decide whether they stay in the House or

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Speaker 10: not come twenty twenty.

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Speaker 9: Six, so they'll be around for a while, but they

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Speaker 9: could be around as independent MPs if they're kicked out

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Speaker 9: of the party. Interestingly, a spokesperson for the National EWI

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Speaker 9: Chairs Forum that will be considering the issue, the spokesperson,

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Speaker 9: Braiden Barber, has been quoted as saying Tama Harry's social

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Speaker 9: media post yesterday, which was where he said they were greedy,

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Speaker 9: was their main one of the main faults. She said

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Speaker 9: his comments were unhelpful. Now there's been, of course, a

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Speaker 9: petition out to get rid of Tama Harry.

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Speaker 3: So this is a mess.

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Speaker 4: So Baden Barber and the EWIE Council co chairs, the

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Speaker 4: EWE Chairs Forum is actually meeting their meeting right now,

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Speaker 4: aren't they. Im yeah, I think the meeting right now. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: we're talking to Baden after half past six. What's going

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Speaker 4: on with the rough sleepers?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 9: I found the line of questioning by Chris Hipkins in

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Speaker 9: the House today quite interesting. It was out of the

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Speaker 9: box in Parliament this afternoon. Literally, that's what it would

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Speaker 9: mean for the rough sleepers in our city's CBDs if

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Speaker 9: it was true. That is, it came out of questions

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Speaker 9: fired by Labour's Chris Hipkins to the man whose job

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Speaker 9: he wants, the Prime Minister, Chris Luxen, You judge, have

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Speaker 9: a listen.

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Speaker 16: Is the government considering a law change to ban homeless

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Speaker 16: people from central business districts?

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Speaker 17: Are there being no cabinet decisions or discussion on that topic?

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Speaker 3: Supplementary question.

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Speaker 16: If booting people out of emergency accommodation has fixed the

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Speaker 16: homelessness problem, why is the government now considering changing the

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Speaker 16: law to ban homeless people? This government has delivered housing

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Speaker 16: affordability for people who want to purchase a house or

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Speaker 16: to rent a house.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, it's interesting. I've talked around the traps today.

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Speaker 9: Apparently Tama Poltaka, he's been talking to community housing providers

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Speaker 9: suggesting that a law is on the way. The providers

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Speaker 9: are meeting on Friday now they're probably considering what they've

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Speaker 9: been told. Who knows, but apparently banning homeless people from

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Speaker 9: the CBD will begin in Auckland and Samon Brown, the

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Speaker 9: Minister for Auckland, has been talking with Wayne Brown about it.

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Speaker 9: Now that's as far as I know. I haven't been

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Speaker 9: able to get it confirmed, but certainly there's been talk

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Speaker 9: about it.

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Speaker 4: How would it work practically? Would you? Would you designate

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Speaker 4: what you considered.

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Speaker 9: The CD So where do they go? Do they go

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Speaker 9: then to the suburbs? Well, the Nimbies I think would

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Speaker 9: be a bit upset about that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, are you suggesting this is a bad idea?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, I mean it's a bad idea having

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Speaker 9: anybody sleeping rough and what do you do about it? Well,

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Speaker 9: I suppose you can have emergency housing.

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Speaker 2: We saw all of that.

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Speaker 9: That wasn't a great secces by the Labor government.

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Speaker 2: But what do you do with them?

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's a question. Really, you know, very so seeing

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Speaker 4: your political correspondent, thanks for that. Eight Away from.

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Speaker 1: Five the headlines and the hard questions, it's the Mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 18: Are we in summer? Are there shoots all around us?

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Speaker 18: Is the light at the end of the tume? Or

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Speaker 18: have we arrived on the promised land?

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Speaker 19: So Shidney, the trend is very, very favorable, Mike. I

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Speaker 19: think the fact that consumer confidence is raising. It's evidenced

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Speaker 19: by the fact that consumers are confident now to go

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Speaker 19: out and borrow money to buy goods. So we've seen

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Speaker 19: a growing trend as far as it's concerned. And also

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Speaker 19: the fact that consumer areas are falling in a layer.

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Speaker 19: I think of the signed that households continue to manage

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Speaker 19: their budgets through very respectively.

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Speaker 18: Some people text me every time these numbers come out

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Speaker 18: and go credit demand is not good. That's a sign

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Speaker 18: that people aren't coping and they need more money. Is

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Speaker 18: that true or not?

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Speaker 19: No, I don't think it is.

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Speaker 18: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 18: a Vida News Talk zb.

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Speaker 4: Ah, jeez, I'll tell you it was no sympathy for

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Speaker 4: the homeless people here. Good We don't want the homeless

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Speaker 4: criminals in our CBD. Here, the banning homeless people from

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Speaker 4: the CBD is a great idea. Hither the term homeless

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Speaker 4: is used inappropriately. They're actually mentally challenged or drug users.

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Speaker 4: They should be moved on out of the CBD. Hither

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Speaker 4: I work in the homeless space. You cannot house people

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Speaker 4: who don't want to be housed for whatever reason. We'll

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Speaker 4: have a chat to the huddle about that. Now that

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Speaker 4: we know that, now the Bearer has given us the details.

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Speaker 4: Now another funny little thing about Labour's capital gains tax. Right,

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Speaker 4: the Herald's done and explain it today, pointing out there

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Speaker 4: are actually a number of ways that you could end

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Speaker 4: up paying CGT capital gains tax on your family home.

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Speaker 4: Remember the family home. I'm supposed to be excluded, but

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Speaker 4: you could still get pinged. So the problem is the

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Speaker 4: fifty percent rule. There's two ways the fifty percent rule

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Speaker 4: were basically applies as pointed out by the Herald. The

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Speaker 4: first is if this is your family home, if it's

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Speaker 4: your main residence, you must be using fifty percent at

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Speaker 4: least of the property.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: So in some cases people don't. So for example, I've

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Speaker 4: got a friend home lives in a really big house

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Speaker 4: in Epsom, and they divided the house into basically three right,

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Speaker 4: so they were living in the upstairs of the house,

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Speaker 4: they rented out the downstairs and then the granny flat

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Speaker 4: got rented out as well, so basically they were only

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Speaker 4: living in a third of the house. They'd have to

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Speaker 4: pay capital gains tax because it's basically not their family home.

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Speaker 4: Then there's also the other fifty percent rule, which is

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Speaker 4: that you have to have lived in your house fifty

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Speaker 4: percent of the time since you bought it. So for example,

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Speaker 4: if you bought in christ Church and then you took

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Speaker 4: a job in Auckland, bought your house in christ Church,

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Speaker 4: moved up to Auckland, maybe lived there for ten years,

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Speaker 4: moved back to christ Church, lived in your house, you

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Speaker 4: have to have lived in that house for the majority

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Speaker 4: of the time otherwise you get pinged by it as well.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Labour's capital gains tax sounding cooler by the day. Okay,

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Speaker 4: we have got up next the Melbourne Cup, the Wig Race,

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Speaker 4: so stand by for that. Get out your little sweep

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Speaker 4: steak ticket, good luck to you. And then after that,

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Speaker 4: let's have a chat to the school Board Association who

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Speaker 4: are pretty cross at Erica Stanford over the treaty reference

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Speaker 4: being removed. News Talk ZBI.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the question,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, find and give the analysis. Hither duplicy

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Speaker 1: Ellen Drive with one New Zealand and the power of

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Speaker 1: satellite mobile.

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Speaker 4: News Talk said, be good afternoon. Education unions are reacting

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Speaker 4: badly to Erica Stanford's decision to remove treaty obligations from

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Speaker 4: school board legislation. The Education Minister's boards should be more

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Speaker 4: focused on making sure kids turn up to school rather

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Speaker 4: than carrying out the Crown's treaty responsibilities with us. Now,

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Speaker 4: as the school Board Association president Meredith Kennett hime, Meredith,

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Speaker 4: what's your take on this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: Pretty much exactly, well exactly what the unions have seen

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Speaker 20: this afternoon is that, you know, I think even if

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Speaker 20: we focus on the responsibility of getting our children to

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Speaker 20: school and attendance and achievement, a part of that is

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Speaker 20: understanding the whole child, and that is also understanding our

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Speaker 20: responsibility to TITI.

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Speaker 4: Okay, how does it give me an example of how

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Speaker 4: this being in legislation actually changes what a school board does.

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Speaker 20: I think it just allows the school board to focus

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Speaker 20: on making sure that they are covering the things that

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Speaker 20: they need to cover. Because for a school board, you

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Speaker 20: have a bunch of caring people who come together and

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Speaker 20: are elected to do a job, and they need to

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Speaker 20: be given quite explicit instructions of what things they need

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Speaker 20: to fulfill and whether on that list then it stays

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Speaker 20: front and send different school boards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like what what would they do? What would

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Speaker 4: they understand?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, to make sure that things like our policies and

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Speaker 20: our procedures really consider the history of our children, really

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Speaker 20: consider where farno are coming from, allow us to connect

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Speaker 20: with local EWE and making sure that the school is

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Speaker 20: fit for purpose for our children. Because our children need

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Speaker 20: to belong and if they don't feel like they do,

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Speaker 20: then they won't achieve.

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Speaker 4: What's the benefit of a school board connecting with local EWI.

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Speaker 20: To allow them to make sure that the local farno

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Speaker 20: of children are connected to the history of the local area,

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Speaker 20: to understand, you know, where things come from in the

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Speaker 20: place that they are learning and just to feel that sense.

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Speaker 20: So way back in time, there was always a saying

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Speaker 20: of people having to leave their culture at the door

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Speaker 20: and making sure that we give effect to testiit eating

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Speaker 20: means that our young people are not having.

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Speaker 21: To do that.

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Speaker 4: And so how is a school board going to make

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Speaker 4: sure that there is this connection to the history of

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Speaker 4: the place by meeting with the EWI how are they

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Speaker 4: going to practically do that?

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Speaker 20: Well, for many schools, that involves inviting their ee in

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Speaker 20: when they're looking at things like their strategic direction and

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Speaker 20: their plan, so whatever goals that they're having to make

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Speaker 20: sure that both the community and the local are in

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Speaker 20: it all alliance.

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Speaker 4: Meredith. So that's a part of it. Shouldn't the goal

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Speaker 4: just be educated as many of these children as possible,

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Speaker 4: make sure they're turning up to school every single day. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and of a part of that is so the end, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's forgive than that is it though? Yeah?

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Speaker 20: I think most school boards think it is and along

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Speaker 20: with all the unions.

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Speaker 4: All right, Meredith, thanks very much, Meredith Nnett, school Board

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Speaker 4: Association President, two half past five.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duper see Alan right.

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Speaker 4: Well Water Safety New Zealand has had its funding pulled

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Speaker 4: by acc acc is cutting more than a million dollars,

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Speaker 4: saying it can't see any measurable reduction in drowning related

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Speaker 4: injury injury claims Gavin Walker is the acting CEO for

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Speaker 4: Water Safety New Zealand. Hey Gavin, Hi, there is it fair?

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Speaker 4: So ACC's argument is basically they can't see that it's

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Speaker 4: helping it all, so they're pulling the funding. Is that fair?

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Speaker 22: Well, it depends what you look at.

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Speaker 23: So ACC's got a really interesting challenge on its hands.

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Speaker 23: The schemes under pressure, and from their point of view,

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Speaker 23: a lot of what's driving cost in the water space

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Speaker 23: costs for their scheme is a whole lot of things

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Speaker 23: like twisted knees, sprains while out on water craft, and

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Speaker 23: concussion and injuries. Look, that stuff's really important, but it's

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Speaker 23: not what we're focused on. We're focused on helping New

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Speaker 23: Zealanders be safe in the water and reducing loss of life,

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Speaker 23: reducing drowning, and we think that that needs to continue

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Speaker 23: to be part of the picture here. We understand ACC's challenge,

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Speaker 23: but actually the work that we've done over the last

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Speaker 23: twenty five over the last twenty years together has made

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Speaker 23: a measurable difference to reduce the drowning risk for New Zealand,

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Speaker 23: and we're worried that all of that is put at

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Speaker 23: risk without some continuation of funding.

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Speaker 4: Are you able to replace this funding. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: a lot of money, isn't it. It's about it's about

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Speaker 4: one fifth of what you get.

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Speaker 14: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 23: HiT's a big part of our funding for both our

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Speaker 23: organization and the network of community partners that we have.

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Speaker 23: There's we're working really hard too with ministers and others

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Speaker 23: in New Zealand to see if we can find alternative

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Speaker 23: ways to replace this funding. But there's no hiding from

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Speaker 23: the fact that stuff really hurts.

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Speaker 4: Right, Kevin, I really appreciate your time, mate Thiskevin Walker,

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Speaker 4: Water Safety New Zealand Acting Chief Executive Heather duper c

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Speaker 4: Ellen Ah, yeah, well, h yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the.

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Speaker 4: The texts on the treaty, Heather, what that's just all

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Speaker 4: it asks and that I meant to be honest? Tell

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Speaker 4: me that that's not how you're feeling right now? What Heather?

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Speaker 4: That woman is surely taking the piss Heather. OMG, that

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Speaker 4: is a load of crap, Heather, How the hell is

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Speaker 4: all this relevant for a school board? Spare us from

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Speaker 4: people like this? That is probably why it had to

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Speaker 4: come out of the legislation, all right. Anyway, like I say,

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Speaker 4: it's all coming in so I might have to read

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Speaker 4: you a few more of those. We're going to deal

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Speaker 4: with the dive bombing falcons next fourteen past five. Hey,

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Speaker 4: just a little bit of information on half fuels which

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Speaker 4: is just won the twenty twenty five Melbourne Cup. The

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Speaker 4: person the jockey is Jamie Mellam, who is a woman,

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Speaker 4: second female jockey in history to win the race and

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Speaker 4: is the woman. Remember we were telling you earlier on

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Speaker 4: there's a husband and wife who are jockeys. That's the

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Speaker 4: wife of the husband and wife. Seventeen past five. Now

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Speaker 4: we've got a little bit of a bird problem in

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Speaker 4: Wellington Carrieria are dive bombing walkers on the Haywood track

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Speaker 4: that runs between the Hut and Portada. Alimed is from

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Speaker 4: Forest and burden with us.

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Speaker 24: Hey, Ali, good afternoon.

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Speaker 25: How's going.

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Speaker 4: I'm well, thank you. Are they doing this because they're nesting.

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Speaker 24: They are they'll be busy at this time of year

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Speaker 24: with either eggs or with checks, and so they're just

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Speaker 24: warning people to stay away from them because they're very

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Speaker 24: busy right now.

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Speaker 4: If you're walking on the track and the dive bombing you,

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Speaker 4: is it dangerous?

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Speaker 24: It's not ideal and they will try and avoid you,

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Speaker 24: but they could come into contact you. So it's much

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Speaker 24: better to not walk down that truck, not walk down

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Speaker 24: that track. And if you do see them, walk away,

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Speaker 24: move away out of the.

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Speaker 26: Area and just leave them alone.

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Speaker 4: What can you do if they start dive bombing you?

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Speaker 4: What's the like? What's the proven way to protect yourself?

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Speaker 24: Just leave the area just as quickly and without falling

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Speaker 24: over and without injuring yourself. But get out of the area,

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Speaker 24: trying to stay calm and just move away from it.

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Speaker 4: Ellie, geez, you're making the sound really intense.

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Speaker 2: What are they going to do to you?

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Speaker 24: No, it's not intense, but they might touch the back

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Speaker 24: of their head, they might scour the back of your

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Speaker 24: head a little bit. They just don't want you there,

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Speaker 24: and you could hurt them if they come into contact you,

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Speaker 24: as with you as well. So it's much better to

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Speaker 24: just avoid the situation.

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Speaker 4: Let's say, Ellie, let's say that you are hell beans

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Speaker 4: or you have to walk this track for some reason.

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Speaker 4: You just have to do it, and you have to

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Speaker 4: take your chances with the birds. What do you do

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Speaker 4: to protect yourself?

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Speaker 24: You go through that as quickly as that's all you mean, no,

873
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 24: because you don't want to come into contact with them

874
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 24: because if you hit them with a stick, you're going

875
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 24: to really hurt them. So it's much better to just

876
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Speaker 24: avoid them.

877
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Speaker 4: If you had to pick teen bird or team human.

878
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 4: You're on team bird here, though, aren't you.

879
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 24: I'm on team bird here. These are the bird of

880
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 24: the year. These are an amazing, amazing animals. They're really

881
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 24: in danger, but they're a bit at this time of

882
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 24: year when they've got babies, and I think that that's okay.

883
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 24: We all want to protect our babies. We've got young

884
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 24: we want to look after them. This is the only

885
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 24: thing they can do to protect those babies are real

886
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 24: risk from everything that's coming to eat them. We don't

887
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 24: really need to go down that track. Just give them

888
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 24: a bit of space, all right.

889
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: Ellie, thanks very much to appreciate it. That's Ellie Meed,

890
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: Forest and Bird Group Manager for Conservation Project Delivery. It's

891
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: a little bit like an Alfred Hitchcock film card. By

892
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 4: the way, if you don't know what the cardi area is,

893
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: it's the falcon So it's not like you're being You're

894
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: not being dive bombed by I don't know the fantail here.

895
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 4: You know this one's got claws and stuff. So you

896
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 4: probably do want to be a little bit careful Heather,

897
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: as a next school board member, where forty nine percent

898
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 4: of our students are Asian, how does connecting with the

899
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: local e we bring them closer to their far No

900
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: school boards can still choose to support treaty outcomes if

901
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: they wish.

902
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: Did you know what?

903
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: Look, I'll be honest with you. I wish that I'd asked, oh, my,

904
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 4: one more question. This is Meredith. Obviously, I wish I'd

905
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 4: asked her one more question because her whole line of

906
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 4: argument was basically, if you get the EE in and

907
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 4: you learn, you learn about your local area, then the

908
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: kids with the Marti kids will feel like that connecting

909
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 4: and then they'll come to school a lot more often, which,

910
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 4: come on, you and I live in the real world.

911
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: That's just bs right. Kids don't come to school for

912
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: that reason. They come to school because they're forced to

913
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 4: go to school, or they enjoy it. It's basically one

914
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: of the two. Anyway, what I would have liked to

915
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: have ASTRS had I not been distracted by the Melbourne

916
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: Cup which had just happened, is this has only been

917
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: in for five years in legislation. If her theory was

918
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: correct that getting the EE in and learning the history

919
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: and feeling a connection to your school and stuff like that.

920
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 4: If that was really going to work, then in the

921
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: last five years we should have seen an uptack and

922
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: Marti achievement, right, Marti school student achievement. We haven't. We've

923
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 4: seen the opposite. There was a peak in about twenty

924
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 4: nineteen of school achievement for Mardi students, and since then

925
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: it's been going backwards despite this piece of legislation. If

926
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: only I had my time again. But you know, there

927
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 4: was a big race and I got distracted. It was

928
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: like I had Champagne in my head. Five twenty one.

929
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper Clan

930
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand coverage like no one else

931
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: news talks.

932
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Speaker 4: They'd be Heather, why didn't she just say falcon mate,

933
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: she's from Forest and byrd that. I don't know if

934
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: you really that part of the subset of news. There's

935
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 4: like a subset of New Zealand that will avoid every

936
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 4: English word that can be replaced with a Marti words,

937
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And forest and bird is

938
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Speaker 4: part of that outfit. Five twenty four listen, Can I

939
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 4: suggest that we maybe just chill out a little bit

940
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 4: about this letter that the Chinese ambassador has sent to

941
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Speaker 4: a bunch of our MPs. There is a fair bit

942
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: of consternation about this in the last twenty four hours

943
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: or so since it broke, because he personally wrote to

944
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: a group of MPs who were at an event celebrating

945
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: the National Day of Time, and people are upset that

946
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 4: he's done this, and the outrage covers everything from foreign

947
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: interference by the ambassador all the way through to surveillance

948
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Speaker 4: by the ambassador, because someone must have been at the

949
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Speaker 4: event and spotted the MPs who were there and surveiled them.

950
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 4: And look, be honest, there's pretty bloody cheeky, isn't it,

951
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: writing like the guy who's here on our in our invitation.

952
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: You know, we're hosting the Chinese ambassady here is writing

953
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 4: to us telling us off. That's pretty bloody cheeky. But

954
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 4: as far as political interference goes, this is really not

955
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 4: It's not worth getting stressed out about. This is at

956
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 4: the low end of things. The guy wrote a letter.

957
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 4: He left a paper trail, right. Paper trails like this

958
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 4: are designed to be left so that they can be revealed.

959
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 4: And think about it. The Chinese are not going to

960
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 4: be upset that this one's been revealed, are they. It

961
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: lets them save face. They told our MPs off. They

962
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: didn't stand for this disgrace on our behalf. Now, we

963
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 4: have had far worse foreign interference in this country. I mean,

964
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: bill such spying for Russia, for example, is far worse.

965
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 4: Alleged China spies perhaps in our parliament. That's far worse.

966
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 4: Foreign outfits trying to build bases to track satellites from

967
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: New Zealand is far worse. Frankly, name is significant power

968
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 4: in the world that doesn't try to put their thumb

969
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: on New Zealand. I mean, the EU doesn't via our FDA.

970
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 4: It's pretty explicit it tries to control our emissions. The

971
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 4: US does it by directing us that we buy more

972
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: military equipment and frankly probably tells us what kind of

973
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: military equipment we need to buy as well. And China

974
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: does it by telling off our MPs for going to

975
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: a party. The fact that they've done this, I don't

976
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 4: think is the weird thing. I actually think what's weird

977
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: here is that basically none of the MPs who got

978
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: the less I want to talk about it. The Chinese

979
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 4: are actually being much more open about this than our

980
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 4: own MPs.

981
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: Ever, dup right, this is not good.

982
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: Okay. The BBC has been busted in a big way

983
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 4: doctoring a Donald Trump's speech. Now this goes all the

984
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: way back to the Capitol Hill riot. This is what

985
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 4: the Panorama program played as basically suggested. Donald Trump had said.

986
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna walk down to the capital and I'll be

987
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: there with you and we fight. We fight like hell.

988
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: This is what he actually said.

989
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: We're going to walk down to the capital.

990
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: And we're going to cheer on our brave senators and

991
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: congressmen and women.

992
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: Hmmm. It's a bit different, isn't it Just a little

993
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: bit different now. The reason that this has come up

994
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 4: all these years later is because the BBC has been

995
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 4: accused of so much bias that they got together a

996
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: group of like whatever, like an Audit was basically done,

997
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 4: and there's a nineteen page internal memo that's now been

998
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 4: produced basically listing a whole bunch of BBC bias problems.

999
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 4: It's doing the rounds and the UK's and a whole

1000
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: bunch of UK government departments and now it's leaked, so

1001
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: not a good look for them. End Brady is going

1002
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: to be with us at about quarters to seven. We'll

1003
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: talk to him about this. Next up though, let's talk

1004
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: about this exhibition at the Holocaust the Nazi exhibition at

1005
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: the Military Museum in Canterbury. News Talks AB.

1006
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: The day's newspakers talked to Heather first.

1007
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and the

1008
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: power of satellite Mobile.

1009
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: News Dog said, b.

1010
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: Where you're going on?

1011
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: I think these guy said he didn't believe this day

1012
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: was ever going to come. They have got the keys

1013
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 4: to the convention center. We're going to talk to them

1014
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 4: after six o'clock. Got the huddle standing by Philo Riley

1015
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: and Gareth Heughson. Right now it is twenty five away

1016
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 4: from six.

1017
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: Now.

1018
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 4: There is upset at a Nazi display at a museum

1019
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: in Canterbury. The display is at the Military Museum in

1020
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: Geraldine and it features uniforms and equipment from the first

1021
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 4: SS Panzer Division in World War Two. Deb Heart is

1022
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: chair of the Holocaust Center. Hi, deb Hi, what is

1023
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: your concern here? What's your problem with this?

1024
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 27: Well, our concern is basically one of context. What we

1025
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 27: understand is that the Geraldine Military Museum has a display.

1026
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 21: Of a.

1027
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 27: A Nazi unit that was not just any old military unit.

1028
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 27: It was the armed embodiment of Nazi ideology. It was

1029
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 27: the elite, an original unit of the waft in SS,

1030
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 27: the personal bodyguard of Adolf Hitler. It evolved into one

1031
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 27: of Nazi Germany's most infamous and brutal fighting formation, formations

1032
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 27: implicated in mass murders, the Holocaust, massacres of POW's and

1033
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 27: the like. And the museum seems to have put this

1034
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 27: display up with very little context. Whatsoever do we need context?

1035
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: I mean, the vast, vast, vast majority of us know

1036
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: Nazis are bad. What other context do you need?

1037
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 27: I wish that were so, but many of us don't

1038
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 27: know that at allations Lots of people, and particularly in

1039
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 27: younger generations, don't know this history. And all museums, no

1040
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 27: matter whether they're a little museum in Geraldine or they're

1041
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 27: a big national museum, have a responsibility to tell the

1042
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 27: stories and give the context, and it really isn't all

1043
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 27: that difficult to do so. And this this display actually

1044
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 27: offers for people to join a reenactment of the Waffansis

1045
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 27: you know, it's it's hard to believe what those reenactments

1046
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 27: would be.

1047
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 28: I mean, would they be well, you know, would they

1048
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 28: be mass executions or burning homes or maybe the Wormholt

1049
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 28: massacre where this very division executed eighty unarmed British and

1050
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 28: French POWs.

1051
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 27: You know, maybe it's you know, really, you do have

1052
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 27: an obligation to help people understand what it is that

1053
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 27: they are looking at. Otherwise you risk glorifying something that

1054
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 27: you know was really terrible in our history.

1055
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 4: Dep Have you read Douglas Murray's latest book on democracies

1056
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 4: and death cults?

1057
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 27: I've read parts of it. It's on my reading list.

1058
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: I highly recommend this Christmas New Year's break talking about

1059
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 4: ruining your some of though, I'll tell you what I

1060
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 4: read it right, and and the premise in the book,

1061
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 4: he tries to understand why because he's looking at Hamas

1062
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 4: and he's trying to understand why it is that we're

1063
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 4: seeing this rising anti Semitism in modern times and why

1064
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 4: people are so openly hating on Jews all over again.

1065
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 4: I don't think actually, at the end of it, I

1066
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 4: don't think he adequately explains it. I'm interested, do you

1067
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 4: do you have an explanation for why this is happening.

1068
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 27: Well, anti Semitism is the longest hatred and it morphs

1069
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 27: into different forms over time, and what we are seeing

1070
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 27: at the moment is is you know, really morphing yet again.

1071
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 27: And so we are seeing a startling rise and anti Semitism.

1072
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 27: And if I can pervot back to this display, it

1073
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 27: really is pretty unhelpful because you know, we don't learn

1074
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 27: anything from history by distorting it.

1075
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: Very good point, dev thanks very much, appreciate a deb

1076
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 4: heart Holocaust centered chair. The reason I was asking deb

1077
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: about that is because I just worry a little bit

1078
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: that we are normalizing Nazism again and it's just becoming

1079
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 4: okay to hate Jews. And that's what I just worry.

1080
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 4: I just worry ever so slightly. This might be I'm

1081
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 4: not saying necessarily, I just worry a little bit. Twenty

1082
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: away from.

1083
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Speaker 1: Sex the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the

1084
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Speaker 1: Glow Leader in luxury real Estate joh on the.

1085
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Speaker 4: Huddle with me this evening. We have Gareth Hughes, director

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Speaker 4: of the Well Being Economy Alliance ALTIRO and former Green

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Speaker 4: MP and Fullo Riley Iron Duke partners Hire. You too, Gareth,

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Speaker 4: Well fil to answer your question, I'm very well, Thank you, Gareth.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about that display?

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Speaker 22: Well, the only Nazi flag I want to see in

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Speaker 22: a museum is one captured by New Zealand troops as

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Speaker 22: part of our mission to stamp out Nazism. Look, I

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Speaker 22: love history. I'm a peace neck, but I also loved

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Speaker 22: visiting military museums, and I'm around the world, and a

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Speaker 22: couple of years ago I accellently visited the Military Museum

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Speaker 22: by Jasper Cuney Shrine and Tokyo, and I was walking

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Speaker 22: around and had this really odd feeling that something was

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Speaker 22: off there because in this museum you kind of felt

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Speaker 22: out that Japan was the total victim and it was

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Speaker 22: innocent in World War Two. And I think walking around

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Speaker 22: this museum in Geraldine you might get the same vibes.

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Speaker 22: I don't know why people want to dress up like

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Speaker 22: the bad guys, the waffen Ss, and we shouldn't be

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Speaker 22: glorifying the stuff. Surell show it that provide the text.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I agree with that. I've been in many museums

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Speaker 25: around the world where a German military equipment or uniforms

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Speaker 25: are displayed and that generally not the WAFT and it

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Speaker 25: says to be fair, but you know, it's explained that

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Speaker 25: this is what they were trying to do and here's

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Speaker 25: what was going on. And so I think if you're

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Speaker 25: going to do it on a place by Jordining, you

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Speaker 25: definitely don't want the Nazi flags and god knows what

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Speaker 25: which you would well that sort of symbolism. If you

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Speaker 25: are going to do it, have a uniform there or

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Speaker 25: something and explain the evil characters that these guys were.

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Speaker 25: But they shouldn't be doing anyway, mate. They should, they should.

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Speaker 25: This is Jordy. They should stop doing that and move on.

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Speaker 25: And I just think it's pretty tasteless stuff.

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Speaker 4: All right now, Gareth, how do you feel about Eric

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Speaker 4: Destans for taking the treaty obligations out of the education legislation.

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Speaker 22: Well, I'm really surprised because I thought the government was

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Speaker 22: laser focused on costs of living, but it seems to

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Speaker 22: be they're focusing on things like this, and you know,

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Speaker 22: it's strange in the middle of a massive curriculum review

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Speaker 22: that lots of teachers and parents are complaining about the

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Speaker 22: process and the terrible proposals. Don't know why she's picking

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Speaker 22: another fight, and she's got the school Board Association, Principals Federation,

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Speaker 22: Teachers Union, Educational Institute all coming out immediately saying they're

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Speaker 22: pretty shocked.

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Speaker 4: And you and I live on two different planets. Do

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Speaker 4: you think do you think most parents support the unions

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Speaker 4: over Erica Stanford?

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Speaker 22: Well, no, it's not just the unions, it's a school

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Speaker 22: board association. There's are parents, you know, volunteering their time

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Speaker 22: for their side.

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Speaker 4: Which side of the ug No, No, I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 4: not trying to be smart to you, Gareth. Which side

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Speaker 4: do you reckonparents are on? Genuinely?

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Speaker 22: Well, I think there's probably, if I'm honest, a bit

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Speaker 22: of a generational shift and what I'm seeing, And you know,

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Speaker 22: I was part of that largest protest in our country's

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Speaker 22: history where what one hundred thousand people came out in

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Speaker 22: the streets to support titvs reflecting a much much wider population. Look,

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Speaker 22: a lot of people want to see the treaty as

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Speaker 22: you play a bigger role in our society. They see

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Speaker 22: what's tappening as a sign of division and spoking and

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Speaker 22: spoking that division and society. So that I'm happy with

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Speaker 22: the treaty as a parent, and I know there are

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Speaker 22: heaps like me.

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Speaker 25: Otherwise, Oh, Herrick Stanfa's done exactly the right thing here.

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Speaker 25: The reality is the Crown, the Government of New Zealand

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Speaker 25: is is department to the Treaty of Whiting, as the

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Speaker 25: Minister says, and this endless sprinkling of treaty obligations throughout

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Speaker 25: our country so that everybody seems to have to live

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Speaker 25: with it, you know, is required to comply with the treaty.

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Speaker 25: It is not only you know, just illogical given the

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Speaker 25: fact that the Crown's the partner here, but it also

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Speaker 25: puts them in an impossible position. As you know, the

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Speaker 25: Treaty of white is the subject of heated debate and

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Speaker 25: changed by the courts and changes and interpretation. How volunteer

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Speaker 25: school boards supposed to comply with all of that, it's

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Speaker 25: an impossibility. What I think they're focusing on properly, and

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Speaker 25: what the Minister is asking to focus on properly is

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Speaker 25: please make sure that everything you do tries to reduce

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Speaker 25: the inequity between the chief of Maris students and the

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Speaker 25: achievement of other students. And that's entirely appropriate. Exactly what

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Speaker 25: skill Board should be doing. And I think that is

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Speaker 25: in fact in compliance with the crowns obligation yard to

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Speaker 25: the Treaty of Whiting.

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Speaker 4: All right, okay, guys, we're going to take a break.

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Speaker 4: I want to know what you think about this rough

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Speaker 4: sleeper news that's dropped today. Sixteen away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Find your

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Speaker 1: one of a kind.

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Speaker 4: Write you back with the Huddle. Fellow Riley, Gareth Hughes

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Speaker 4: now Phil Labors drop the fact that they believe that

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Speaker 4: the government is going to introduce a ban on rough

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Speaker 4: sleepers and cities. How do you feel about this?

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Speaker 25: I support the ban, but what are you going to

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Speaker 25: do with them? So the rough sleepers would become a

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Speaker 25: real issue, not just in New Zealand but also in

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Speaker 25: many cities around the world. And there's no question they

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Speaker 25: contribute to a feeling that the whole idea contributes to

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Speaker 25: a feeling of a lack of security, a lacti of safety.

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Speaker 25: It can be quite confronting for people to have to

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Speaker 25: have to see all that and to be part of it.

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Speaker 25: So I agree with the idea that something should be

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Speaker 25: done about them, but you can't just say their band

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Speaker 25: what are they going to do where they're going to go,

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Speaker 25: So you need to, I think, have a wrap around

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Speaker 25: service that says, we're not going to let you sleep rough,

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Speaker 25: but here's what we are going to do. We're going

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Speaker 25: to we're going to put you into some sort of

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Speaker 25: transitional accommodation or something like that, because often it's the

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Speaker 25: lack of that transitional accommodation or those kinds of wrap

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Speaker 25: round services that lead to the rough sleeping. Not always

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Speaker 25: some are rough sleeping, so they can beg let's be

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Speaker 25: clear about that. They're not all sort of necessarily if

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Speaker 25: people with no choice, sometimes they do with the choices.

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Speaker 25: But broadly speaking, banning them is not the only answer.

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Speaker 25: We should make sure they move somewhere more conducive to

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Speaker 25: their success.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd imagine, Gareth that at least at the outset,

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Speaker 4: if you do something like this, many of them will

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Speaker 4: be spending the night in jail.

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Speaker 22: Or wide are out of the city and to the suburbs.

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Speaker 22: And I agree with fifty percent of what Phil said.

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Speaker 22: You know, we need to come up with comprehensive solutions

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Speaker 22: to the problem. If we're just banning it and moving

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Speaker 22: the problem elsewhere, you know, that's the definition of the

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Speaker 22: bottom of the cliff. Thinking where people are drifting down

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Speaker 22: the river a little bit further at the bottom of

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Speaker 22: the cliff reminds me in Wales they were handing out

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Speaker 22: stab proof sleeping bag coats. You know, this was not

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Speaker 22: the solution to the rough sleeping problem. It's giving people

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Speaker 22: houses and I get that it's really uncomfortable in a

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Speaker 22: lot of our city centers. It's sad for me as

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Speaker 22: a parent that my teen daughter doesn't feel safe walking

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Speaker 22: around downtown Wellington. But the answer is a still fait.

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Speaker 22: We've just got to get affordable housing. I know, unemployments

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Speaker 22: at a nine year high. It's not normal that we

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Speaker 22: have so much rough sleeping in this country. We didn't

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Speaker 22: used to have it, and it's a result of concrete policies.

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Speaker 22: But we can change those policies.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of probably quite normal nowadays, isn't it, though.

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Speaker 29: Karn It's sad.

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Speaker 22: I'm not that old, but I still remember a country

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Speaker 22: where it just wasn't normal with one person in Gisbel

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Speaker 22: and where I grew up.

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Speaker 25: It happens in lots of cities and lots of countries,

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Speaker 25: and it's a wider issue than just complaining about how

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Speaker 25: New Zealand's got poor policies. But it is about making

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Speaker 25: sure that there is something for them to do. Otherwise,

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Speaker 25: to GaAs point, they'll what are you going to?

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Speaker 2: What arey going to do?

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Speaker 25: Turn up a new limb. I mean, you know, so

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Speaker 25: you need to have some sort of opportunity toff possible.

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Speaker 4: Though, Phil that if you kick them out of the

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Speaker 4: city center, the attraction to rough sleeping for some of them,

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Speaker 4: some of them will fade, right because at least some

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Speaker 4: of the attraction is being there where the buzzers and

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Speaker 4: everybody else's and you're doing your drugs and you're you're

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Speaker 4: you're getting boozed. If you get pushed out to new Lin,

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Speaker 4: it's not nearly as fun if you're on your tod

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Speaker 4: and the bus stop.

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Speaker 25: I think that's right. In other words, you can't say

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Speaker 25: that all rough sleepers are there if you like, because

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Speaker 25: there's nowhere else them to go, right. But so that's right.

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Speaker 25: But I think there's enough of that as certainly as

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Speaker 25: I walk around walk from cvdn't want you can see me,

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Speaker 25: didn't see them. Certainly, some of them are desperate souls

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Speaker 25: and we need to help them. So I think it's

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Speaker 25: a You can be cynical either way about this. This

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Speaker 25: is a dreadful thing the government's doing. That they're rough sleeping.

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Speaker 25: That's not quite true. And but all of them are

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Speaker 25: just rough sleeping because they can they can beg and

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Speaker 25: do drugs. That's not true. Yeah, there's there's a middle

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Speaker 25: ground here.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: How are you stressed out, Gareth about the Chinese ambassadory

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Speaker 4: letters to MPs.

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 22: I wouldn't say stressed out, but it does seem to

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Speaker 22: be an increasing pattern, and I think we should be

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Speaker 22: concerned about it because look, no government, be it China

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Speaker 22: or Russia or the US, should be interfering our politics.

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Speaker 22: I actually agree with that TMP Laura McClure who said,

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Speaker 22: you know, in New Zealand, where parliament sovereign and our democracy,

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Speaker 22: MPs are free to exercise their judgment. I'm not happy

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Speaker 22: that the Chinese Embassy is sending a lot of criticisms

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Speaker 22: of late everything from from this a visit to Taiwan

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Speaker 22: through to other things like the documentaries being screened, how

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Speaker 22: we operate customs. Yeah, we don't do it to them

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Speaker 22: and they shouldn't be doing it to us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Phil.

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Speaker 25: People can send lead us to MPCE for all sorts

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Speaker 25: of reasons. So I've got no problem with Chinese ambassador's

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Speaker 25: US investadors, you know, the Westmere Bowling Club or they

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Speaker 25: had the same the leader through fellow, I take not

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Speaker 25: much interest in it other than to say, other than

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Speaker 25: to say, the mp should read that letter, should should

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Speaker 25: take it for what it's worth, and then I think

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Speaker 25: properly ignore it and get on doing what they need

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Speaker 25: to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fair point. Hey, listen, thank you very much, you two.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: Go well.

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Speaker 4: That is Gareth Ughs and Filow Riley a huddle this evening.

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Speaker 4: It's eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my art Radio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be.

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Speaker 21: Here.

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Speaker 4: The fellow Riley talks a lot of sense. You should

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Speaker 4: have him on more often. Yeah he does. Actually, he's

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Speaker 4: not half bad at what he knows. The stuff he knows,

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Speaker 4: the stuff around politics.

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Speaker 3: Hither.

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Speaker 4: I'm the principle of a large primary school. I am

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Speaker 4: a member of the NZDI. That's the union for those guys.

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Speaker 4: I am so over the Union making a fuss about

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Speaker 4: every single new initiative the government puts out clearly we

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Speaker 4: have to do something about what is currently going on

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Speaker 4: to lift achievement across our children. Thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 4: Now I have been meaning, honestly for the longest time

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Speaker 4: to finally give you my book review on and I know,

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Speaker 4: I know you've been dying for you, Like, where is

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Speaker 4: that book review on Grant Robertson's book. I just cannot

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Speaker 4: wait to hear what you think of it. Well, we're

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Speaker 4: not going to have to wait very long. We're going

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Speaker 4: to do the book review in the next hour. We're gonna,

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Speaker 4: in fact, we need a sting for it, don't we.

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Speaker 4: We need something that sounds a little bit like it's

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Speaker 4: on our n Z, because, let's be honest about it,

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Speaker 4: a book review does feel a bit urn Z. But anyway,

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Speaker 4: it was a good book. I'll get you through some

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Speaker 4: of the details now it's five away from six. I

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Speaker 4: was talking yesterday about how busy Melbourne was when I

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Speaker 4: was there over the weekend, right compared to you know, Auckland, Wellington,

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Speaker 4: the cities that I kind of spend a lot of

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Speaker 4: time in the New Zealand. Turns out, when Donna Demayo

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Speaker 4: was on earlier, we're having a chat to her and

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Speaker 4: she said, now, do you know what To be honest,

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Speaker 4: that was a pretty epic weekend even for Melbourne, like

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Speaker 4: a lot was going on for us, not at all

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Speaker 4: normal in fact, and then she pointed us to In fact,

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Speaker 4: there is a letter on Facebook from the owner of

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Speaker 4: a joint called Cherry Bar where he thanks Oasis for

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Speaker 4: the support over the weekend. He writes, dear, It's called

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Speaker 4: the open love letter to Oasis. Dear liah Minol, I

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Speaker 4: love you. I'm the owner in the booker of Cherry Bar.

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Speaker 4: We are a small late night live music dive bar

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Speaker 4: that has somewhere survived for over twenty five years in Melbourne.

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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. This winter was tough. The city is

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Speaker 4: dead and dangerous. Young people don't come out at night anymore.

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Speaker 4: I mean, does this not sound like Wellington or Auckland.

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Speaker 4: Young people don't come out at night anymore, and if

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Speaker 4: they do, they don't spend any money and they pingpong

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Speaker 4: between half a dozen different venues rather than sinking piss

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Speaker 4: in one joint. Then Oasis arrives. We just had our

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Speaker 4: biggest weekend and biggest week on record. Thank you Nolan, Liam,

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Speaker 4: Thank you Oasis. No government could ever plan an economic

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Speaker 4: injection of the size and import. So the lesson I'm

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Speaker 4: taking from this is not that there's no value in

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Speaker 4: what I said to you yesterday. There is value in

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Speaker 4: what I said to you yesterday. They're going through the

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Speaker 4: same problems we are in Melbourne. We're going through the

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Speaker 4: problems in Auckland Wellington. The difference is they are tackling

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Speaker 4: it head on. They went and had themselves a big weekend, right,

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Speaker 4: They had Oasis, they had Ricky Martin, they had the cricket,

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Speaker 4: they had the races. We need one here too. I

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Speaker 4: mean it's probably, you know, a bit NAF. But if

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Speaker 4: it wasn't a bit NAF, i'd start a hashtag hashtag

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Speaker 4: bed tax for Auckland. No, it's nath. We won't be

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Speaker 4: doing that anyway. Sky City, right, let's talk about sky

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Speaker 4: City next. Because I went, I had to look back

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Speaker 4: and I thought, how many delays have their being? When

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Speaker 4: were they supposed to open the convention center six years ago? Okay,

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Speaker 4: so it's six years late in opening. They've got the

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Speaker 4: keys today, so that's exciting. How many delays have there

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Speaker 4: been looks like at least six. So anyway, they're going

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Speaker 4: to be with us. We'll talk through how exciting that is.

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Speaker 4: News Talks they'd been.

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Speaker 2: What's up, what's down?

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Speaker 1: One with a major cause and how will it affect

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Speaker 1: the economy, the big business questions on the Business Hour

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Speaker 1: with Heather Duplicy, Allen and mass for insurance investments and

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Speaker 1: Killie Safer. You're in good hands News talk.

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Speaker 4: Said been even in coming up in the next hour,

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Speaker 4: Beef and Lamb want to change the way we measure emissions,

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Speaker 4: just the latest body who want to do this. We're

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Speaker 4: going to have a chat to Jamie and mackay about that.

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Speaker 4: Indebrady is with us out of the UK and hopefully,

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Speaker 4: hopefully fingers Crossed will be able to get you across

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Speaker 4: what's happening with the big Maori party meeting. Oh and

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Speaker 4: Sexiest Man of the Year as well, you wait for

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Speaker 4: that coming up. Eight past six Now, after a decade

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Speaker 4: of building works, the keys for the International Convention Center

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Speaker 4: have been formally handed over to sky City. The works

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Speaker 4: began all the way back in twenty fifteen. They were

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Speaker 4: supposed to take three and a half years. At ten years,

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Speaker 4: a huge fire in an ongoing legal dispute, and finally

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Speaker 4: we've made it there. Pre Daily is the general manager

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Speaker 4: of the New Zealand International Convention Center and with us, Hey,

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Speaker 4: Prue cureda. Thanks for having me. Is it a relief?

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Speaker 26: Oh, it's more than relief, it's absolute elation. We are

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Speaker 26: so excited to have the keys and finally get into

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Speaker 26: the building and start getting it ready.

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Speaker 4: To truly give you keys.

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Speaker 26: They literally give us a whole lot of keys. It's

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Speaker 26: not just one candidate. Like a box of keys got

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Speaker 26: handed over to our security team and they said, here

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Speaker 26: you go and you look after it from there. So, yes,

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Speaker 26: there are keys, but not like you would think of

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Speaker 26: in a twenty first where you get a big key

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Speaker 26: like that.

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Speaker 4: To hear it, I thought that the place was supposed

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Speaker 4: to open in twenty nineteen. It was actually supposed to

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Speaker 4: open in twenty seventeen, wasn't it.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, we've I mean, as you said in the intro,

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Speaker 26: you know, it was supposed to be three years. It's

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Speaker 26: been ten years. So we've been patiently waiting. But actually,

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Speaker 26: you know, now we're just super focused on getting that

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Speaker 26: building ready for February and make sure that when we open,

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Speaker 26: we're delivering really well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so all of the building works is done right, correct?

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Speaker 4: So what do you do now?

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Speaker 26: So our job as the operational team is to really

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Speaker 26: get in there, and we're doing some commissioning of our own.

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Speaker 26: We've got a whole lot of loose equipment that needs

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Speaker 26: to come in, about one hundred and fifty thousand items

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Speaker 26: that the team needs to.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 26: Ah, so if you imagine you're going in for a

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Speaker 26: gala dinner, and we can do a gala dinner for

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Speaker 26: up to three thousand people, think of the spoons, the cutlery,

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Speaker 26: the crockery, the glass where the tables, the chairs, everything

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Speaker 26: that you touch when you come into a room for

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Speaker 26: a dinner. That's what's coming in at the moment. And

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Speaker 26: the team is unwrapping and unpacking and washing if required,

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Speaker 26: and putting it into its future home.

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Speaker 4: So you enjoy doing that because that is fun. If

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Speaker 4: you like when you move into a new house, that's fun.

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Speaker 4: Is this fun?

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Speaker 3: This is fun?

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Speaker 26: I think you know, through the whole procurement process, being

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Speaker 26: able to pick out plates and glasses and make sure

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Speaker 26: that we're putting a unique New zealand touch on it,

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Speaker 26: it has absolutely been fun hard work at the same time,

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Speaker 26: But I think this is what makes our team really

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Speaker 26: proud about what we're doing is we hope that it'll

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Speaker 26: be a little bit different, a little bit unique. But

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Speaker 26: we'll actually speak to New Zealand for all those international

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Speaker 26: visitors who are coming through our doors.

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Speaker 4: And so you're going to be bringing in events, right,

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Speaker 4: So you you've announced some, haven't you. We have announced some.

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Speaker 26: So we've already got about one hundred events or over

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Speaker 26: one hundred events confirmed for the twenty twenty six calendar year,

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Speaker 26: with plenty more to come through.

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Speaker 4: All announced. Those hundred all announced.

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Speaker 26: Not all of them have been announced. We've got quite

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Speaker 26: a few that have, but some that are not ours

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Speaker 26: to announce there for our clients to announce as well.

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Speaker 26: So I think about you know, from a conference perspective,

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Speaker 26: we've got the Australian New Zealand College of Anethesis coming

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Speaker 26: in April, sixteen hundred people, huge medical congress, really great get.

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Speaker 26: We've got school balls, we've got charity events. We've got

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Speaker 26: Mel Robbins coming to speak into our theater. She just

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Speaker 26: sold out two nights in March. So quite a different

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Speaker 26: mix of events that we've got, but really, you know,

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Speaker 26: great to be able to have events that will bring

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Speaker 26: new international visitors into the country, but also some for

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Speaker 26: our kiwis.

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Speaker 4: To enjoy space for music like musicians.

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Speaker 26: Absolutely, yes, So we've got a teared auditorium that can

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Speaker 26: do just under three thousand people, so fans, speakers, any

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Speaker 26: kind of musical acts. Absolutely, we're looking forward to bringing lots.

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Speaker 4: Of those in.

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Speaker 26: Can't tell you any yet. I can't tell you any yet.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get this out of here the whole time,

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Speaker 4: haven't I. Okay, So what I've established is it it's

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Speaker 4: not it's not Oasis level cool, it's not level.

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Speaker 26: It's not a stadium show.

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Speaker 4: It's not a goat, nothing that would go in the stadium.

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Speaker 4: So is it more like your your your weird little

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Speaker 4: random thing that you like, Like Eldest Harding.

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Speaker 26: Definitely don't think weird and random. I think that we've

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Speaker 26: got some announcements coming up in the next couple of months,

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Speaker 26: and I think they'll they'll be artists that definitely resonate

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Speaker 26: with a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: Floor if you want to get up and boogie.

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Speaker 26: Well, Actually, our theater has retractable seating in it and

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01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,799
Speaker 26: it retracts back, so we can have a general admission

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Speaker 26: standing floor in our theater as well. As a fully

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Speaker 26: seated space, so quite flexible and allows us to do

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Speaker 26: all kinds of things prove.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that you're bringing in events like extra

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01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 4: above what was already going to be brought in or

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Speaker 4: are you cutting the lunch of smaller venues like the Civic.

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Speaker 26: No, absolutely bringing in new business and that's where these

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Speaker 26: international conventions come in. A lot of them are the

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Speaker 26: size and scale that would never have come to New

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Speaker 26: Zealand with our ins ICC being open. So we've anticipated

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Speaker 26: that once we're up and running at full strength. You know,

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Speaker 26: we expect to bring about thirty three thousand new international

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Speaker 26: visitors into the country every year and that will equate

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Speaker 26: to about ninety million dollars of economic impact. So well, yes,

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Speaker 26: absolutely we have you know, New Zealand events as well.

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Speaker 26: We are out there and our sales teams out there

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Speaker 26: targeting new business for New Zealand very strongly.

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Speaker 4: Oh fantastic. And so you're doing an open day for

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Speaker 4: the public at some stage, are you?

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Speaker 26: We will do an open days for the public which

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Speaker 26: go fa, you can come and have a little finger

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Speaker 26: or how many things that you come and see the

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Speaker 26: amazing artwork we've got. Come and walk through the building.

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Speaker 26: It is absolutely stunning and honestly, as a team, we

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Speaker 26: just can't wait to share it with everyone.

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Speaker 4: We're really excited. Mate, thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 4: and I really appreciate it. Pray day to having me

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Speaker 4: a general manager of the New Zealand International Convention Center.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen pass six, It's the.

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Speaker 4: By the way, just before we get to Jamie McKay,

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Speaker 4: can I just quickly just point something out to you,

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Speaker 4: is this I was aware of this over the weekend

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Speaker 4: and I haven't seen that this has got like a

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Speaker 4: huge amount of publicity. But Oprah Winfrey's show has been canceled. No,

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01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 4: it's not canceled, Street, don't stress out. Oprah Winfrey's show

1511
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 4: has been moved from Spark Arena to the Civic and Auckland.

1512
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 4: Now Spark Arena can hold up to twelve thousand people.

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01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 4: The Civic only seats about twenty four hundred. Just want

1514
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 4: to say, maybe someone's not as popular in New Zealand

1515
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:44,440
Speaker 4: as they thought. Sixteen past six, The Rural Report.

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01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 2: On Heather Dupasicy Alan Drive.

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01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 4: Alternative Explanations, The tickets were too expensive. Jamie McKay hosted

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 4: the Countries with us Helo, Jamie, Did I hear that?

1519
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 3: Right?

1520
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 4: So the government's putting money into what to do what

1521
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:56,959
Speaker 4: with agricultural emissions?

1522
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 21: Well that's the proverbial. Well the shite hit the fan

1523
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 21: here because Nikola Willis I chatted to her today in

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01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 21: a North Canterbury dairy paddock or dairy farm paddock. And

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01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 21: they've got this thing called agri zero en Z. It's

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01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 21: a joint venture between the government and leading agribusinesses, you know, Fonterra, silver,

1527
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 21: fern farms, all these sorts of people. They're jointly funding

1528
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 21: it with the government and it's ways to reduce our

1529
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 21: greenhouse gas emissions. Now, there's all sorts of good ideas

1530
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 21: out there that like some methane vaccine, vaccines, inhibitors, probiotics

1531
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 21: and even pasture species that when consumed by the animals

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01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 21: will make them amit less methane. But here's a really

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01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 21: good one, and this one they've been pondering on for ages.

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01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 3: Now.

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01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:49,799
Speaker 21: This is a wearable device heather. Sometimes cows wear collars

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01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 21: like they do for halter, and they can have virtual fencing.

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01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 21: This is a wearable device at the other end of

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01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 21: the cow.

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01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 3: At the back end of the cow.

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01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:00,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 21: So the idea is that this wearable device, which they're

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01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 21: sort of under avail of secrecy because they're still going

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 21: through the IP and patent process. So what it does,

1544
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 21: because cows are a big problem. They drink a lot

1545
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 21: of water, they create a lot of milk. They also

1546
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 21: pee a lot of urine, very high concentrations. Basically, they

1547
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 21: stand still and planket in one place.

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01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 25: Not good.

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01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 21: Now, these people have quite rightly thought, if we can

1550
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 21: somehow tweak mother nature and get that high nitrogen urine

1551
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 21: spread around the pasture or the paddock evenly, problem solved.

1552
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 25: So how do you do that?

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01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 21: You put a wearable device on the back of the

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 21: cow that when she peas, somehow it spreads the urine

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01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 21: like we fertilize a spreader. But if you think about it, Caather,

1556
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 21: and I'm sure you lay awake at night thinking about this,

1557
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 21: and you think of the geometry or the geography of

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01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 21: a cow. Just above where the pea comes out, something

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01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 21: else comes out. And that's where I think, I'm just

1560
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 21: not quite sure how this is going to work. I

1561
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 21: think the ship could really hit the fan. But it's

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01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 21: a unique idea and if it works it could be

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 21: a real game breaker, so good luck to them. This

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01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 21: is a startup Canterbury Country North Canterbury farmer called Moa.

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 21: Nicola was down there along with Shane Retty, the Minister

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01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 21: of Science, Innovation and Technology.

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01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 3: They're very well.

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01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 21: Nichola was very excited about it. So watch this space.

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Speaker 4: That was interesting, Jamie, thanks very much.

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01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 21: I may have been clumsy in my explanation.

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01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 4: No, you got there.

1572
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 21: I got there in the end, but you just need

1573
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 21: to go home and look at a picture of a

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01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 21: cow tonight. What I figure out how this could go

1575
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 21: badly wrong.

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01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 4: What was more interesting was how awkward you were as

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01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 4: a farmer talking about cowpo But anyway, listen Beef and

1578
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 4: lamb right, it's the latest of a whole bunch of

1579
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 4: global organizations now that want a new approach re methane.

1580
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 4: Are they go to be able to put enough pressure

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01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 4: on the government to come around to.

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01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 21: This, Well they've you know how we had just Cindus

1583
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 21: christ Church called this is sort of Kate Ackland's split

1584
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 21: gas call to other countries Beef and Land, New Zealand,

1585
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 21: and it started with the conversation that Kate Ackland had

1586
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 21: a number of years ago, apparently in the UK with

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01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 21: the Irish or someone like that. So what they've got

1588
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 21: is they've got thirty organizations again across fourteen countries, and

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01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 21: they're going to petition the UN and petition their own

1590
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 21: governments to take a split gas approach to measuring greenhouse

1591
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 21: gas submissions i e. Carbon dioxide on one side and

1592
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 21: methane on the other, and treat them differently and measure

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01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 21: them differently. They've got, as I said, fourteen countries have

1594
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 21: signed up. When I look through the signatories of the

1595
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 21: joint statement, it was interesting that the United States was

1596
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 21: in there, and with everything Trump's saying at the moment,

1597
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 21: it's rather inter that they're signing up for this one.

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01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 21: But I guess they want to protect their farmers as well.

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Speaker 21: And just before you cut me off, Heather, because I

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01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 21: know you're going to keep an eye out for the

1601
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 21: Global dairy trade auction tonight. We haven't had a positive

1602
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 21: auction for three months, not since August, the fifth futures

1603
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 21: market picking two to three percent drop. Here's my question

1604
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 21: for you, other than look at the geometry of the

1605
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 21: cow or the geography of the cow. There's nine dollars

1606
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 21: fifty on the cards. Do you think about that?

1607
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 4: Eva, Jamie, thank you. I appreciate it. Jamie McKay, Host

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01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 4: of the Country. I didn't want to say it the

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01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 4: entire time, but it's the biology of the cow, isn't it.

1610
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 4: When you're talking about where things are, it's what's the

1611
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 4: geography of the cow? He must have been a terrible farmer,

1612
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 4: mustn't he. Heather Oprah lost my support when she aligned

1613
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 4: with Meghan Markel on that appalling hit job on the

1614
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 4: Royal family and then failed to challenge Meghan's claim that

1615
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 4: the Royal family were racist. Actually very good point. It

1616
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 4: did really not do Oprah very very much good, did

1617
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 4: it right? I've got to what's going on with the

1618
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 4: Marori party next stand by six twenty two.

1619
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1620
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: Your business hour with the Heather Duplic Ellen and maz

1621
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: for insurance investments and Huiye Safer and you're in good

1622
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: hands News Talks.

1623
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Speaker 4: Dead b anatomy. Heather, thank you, Joanne, thank you. That

1624
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 4: is the word that we were both looking for and

1625
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 4: we needed you to clear that up. Now listen what's

1626
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 4: been going on with the Maori Party today is because

1627
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 4: as you know, the Mardi Party has been falling apart

1628
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 4: for about three months. The Ewie Chairs Forum has said, right,

1629
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 4: that's enough of this. The grown ups are coming to Wellington.

1630
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 4: So a whole bunch of the chairs have flown to

1631
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,560
Speaker 4: Wellington to meet with the party to tell them to

1632
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 4: sort it out. Now, from what I understand, it is

1633
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,879
Speaker 4: to meet with as in John Talmaheada and the co leaders.

1634
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 4: So remember the party's essentially broken into two factions, right,

1635
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 4: You've got John Tamahada the co leaders debing Mahdi Wapaka

1636
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 4: and Awadi Whit tit and then you've got on the

1637
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 4: other side Taku Ta Feris and many I mean or

1638
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 4: Kappa KINGI who want to basically be the co leaders.

1639
01:17:58,600 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 3: Right.

1640
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 4: So, from what we understand, and the EWE Chairs Forum

1641
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 4: has met with the kind the existing leaders and John

1642
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 4: Palmer had to tell them to sort it out. Baden Barber,

1643
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 4: the chair, I think the meeting was running from something

1644
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 4: like four point thirty to four to four to five

1645
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 4: thirty or something, okay, but it clearly ran over time.

1646
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 4: So we couldn't get a hold of Biden until very recently.

1647
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 4: Baden Barber is the chair of Nati Kahungu, who was

1648
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 4: at the meeting and will be with us just after

1649
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 4: the news and talk us for exactly what's happened with

1650
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 4: there's any hope for this ridiculous party six twenty six.

1651
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 2: There's no business like show business. I'm sixty four.

1652
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 4: That's right. Time has come. People magazine six Sexiest Man

1653
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 4: of the Year has been officially revealed, and it is

1654
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 4: Jonathan Bailey. I know you're going who the actual hell

1655
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 4: is Jonathan Bailey. Jonathan Bailey is Lord Anthony Bridgeton m

1656
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 4: Now you know why he's the Sexiest Man of the Year,

1657
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 4: My right, ladies and gentlemen, Actually because we don't discriminate

1658
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 4: here on this show. Oh we've had a change of music. Yes,

1659
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 4: much more appropriate. He's also Lord Fierro. Have I pronounced

1660
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 4: that correctly in the Wicked movies? I don't know. I'm

1661
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 4: a grown up. I don't know how to pronounce witches names.

1662
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 4: So anyway, he went on Jimmy Kimmel to accept.

1663
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 2: The honor in twenty twenty five.

1664
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 4: Just think I've sort of thrilled that People Magazine have

1665
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 4: invited someone in to bestow this honor on someone who

1666
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 4: can really cherish the value of a sexey mind. Now,

1667
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 4: the reason he said that is because what he is.

1668
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 4: He's the first out gay man to be awarded this title.

1669
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 4: And the good thing about it is this year they've

1670
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 4: actually picked somebody who is actually objectively sexy, because in

1671
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 4: the past may haven't done that right. They had John

1672
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 4: Krasinsky last year, who's Jim from the office, who is

1673
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 4: not sexy, all good looking. Then they had Patrick Dempsey

1674
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 4: who look as sexy, but it was twenty twenty three.

1675
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 4: It was way past the time when majority of the

1676
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 4: world was thirsting for Patrick Dempsey, you know what I'm saying.

1677
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 4: And then do we need to even discuss Paul Runt.

1678
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,799
Speaker 4: There was that day when they did that. So Jonathan Bailey,

1679
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 4: you have to say thank God for a good old

1680
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 4: return to the days of picking sexy men who are

1681
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 4: in fact sexy. Marti Party next.

1682
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: Sixty six, crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's

1683
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: heathered to for c Ellen with the Business Hour and

1684
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 1: MAS for Insurance.

1685
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: Investments and Kui Saber You're in good hands. News Talks d.

1686
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 4: B by Ende Brady on the BBC's bias read Donald Trump.

1687
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 4: That has been exposed. I'm going to run you When

1688
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 4: I say Inder Brady, I mean he's with us in

1689
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 4: ten minutes. And I'm also going to run you through

1690
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 4: my review of Grant Robertson's book. Right now, it's twenty

1691
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,919
Speaker 4: five away from seven now. EBE leaders have just concluded

1692
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 4: an urgent meeting with the Maori Party executive at Parliament

1693
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 4: in an attempt to bring an end to ongoing party

1694
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 4: in fighting. NATI boss Baden Barber was at the Hui

1695
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 4: high Biden, how are you thank you? Howd the meeting?

1696
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 4: Is there any resolution?

1697
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1698
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 21: There was.

1699
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 29: It went really well, very constructive and we got to

1700
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 29: some outcomes and yeah, it was two hours so it

1701
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 29: was a lot to discuss and yeah, great, I thought

1702
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 29: it was great meeting.

1703
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 4: Okay, what are the outcomes?

1704
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 29: Uh, A truth, a ceasefire on on the on the

1705
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 29: I was via social media. That was That was one

1706
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 29: and the second one was an agreement to the meet Ada,

1707
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 29: Mariah and Pornick to to work through the issues. So

1708
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 29: so we met with Larwoodie White City and Debbie Now

1709
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 29: they were packed up and a couple from the executive,

1710
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 29: John Thumberhead and well no, John got called away, but

1711
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 29: there was okay, there was, Okay. I spoke with John

1712
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 29: this morning, yep, we had yeah, yes, so we spoke

1713
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 29: this morning.

1714
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 4: Are you running to your flight, Baidenh'm running to my flight,

1715
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 4: all right, Run and talk, Baden, run and talk, okay,

1716
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,879
Speaker 4: So tell me something. So this is basically an agreement

1717
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 4: that the Maldi party executive and leadership will stop the

1718
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 4: online and public attacks on Maria men Or and on

1719
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 4: Taku de Ferris.

1720
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 29: Is that right, that's right, that's right.

1721
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Speaker 3: Yep.

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01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 29: I'm just going to show my my account.

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01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1724
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1725
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 4: Baden's still there. By the way, if you're wondering what's

1726
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 4: going on, why is the radio so quiet, is just

1727
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 4: showing his boarding pass, will be with we're back right, good, okay.

1728
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 4: So the agreement is not to do these online and

1729
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 4: public attacks.

1730
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 29: Yes, that's right, that's right, that's right, yep, okay.

1731
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 4: And then the point is what that they then that

1732
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 4: that they will then get together with Maria Mental and

1733
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 4: Tarcouter at this this meeting at the Mara.

1734
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 29: That's right, that's right. So that would agreed to come.

1735
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 29: We haven't we haven't landed the day yet or the Mary.

1736
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 29: But the intention is to come to the meeting and

1737
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 29: now we need to meet the monumental to get the

1738
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 29: same tope of agreement. So so yeah, yeah, it's pleasing

1739
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 29: to be able to get to that outcome.

1740
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 4: Okay, Baden, how do you think this is going to end?

1741
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 4: Is this going to be a split in the party?

1742
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 3: We hope not.

1743
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 29: We hope not. And it will try all we can

1744
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 29: to keep the party together, but you know we can't.

1745
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 29: We can't. Yeah that that that will if it plays

1746
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 29: out that way, well that's our plays out.

1747
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 3: But from a.

1748
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 29: Egis point of view, having a united party functional and

1749
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 29: focusing on the upcoming election is where we want to be, okay.

1750
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 4: And what is what's kicked us off? Is this because

1751
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 4: Takuta Maria Meno wanted to roll the leaders.

1752
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 29: They work through a whole list of things that uh,

1753
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 29: you know that there were issues, but you know that's

1754
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 29: probably the key point. None of them were insurmountable. I

1755
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 29: don't I think. I mean, there's some stuff that the

1756
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 29: electricity to source through, but you know, we think that

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01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 29: we can still have the and move forward.

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01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 4: Okay. Is is John Tommerheady going to stay in the

1759
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 4: president in the role of president?

1760
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 29: Oh, that'll be up to that'll be up to the party.

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01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 4: Is it possible that he goes.

1762
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 2: There?

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01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 29: He was that he goes, well, that'll be up to

1764
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 29: the party. Okay, yeah, no, no.

1765
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 25: No, I've got to I've got to go.

1766
01:24:58,840 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 3: I'm got to go either.

1767
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 4: Thanks, well, you know, for get okay, thanks Baden, Baden Barber.

1768
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 4: What a decent guy. The way Court like Court tried

1769
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 4: to catch the plane while having a chat to us,

1770
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 4: I have more of him any day of the week.

1771
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 4: By the way, Kimilla's sent a text through saying John

1772
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 4: Thalmaherde is currently sitting in the viaduct having a drink.

1773
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 4: He doesn't look too concerned about his party. Good spying, Kimilla,

1774
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 4: Nick minute, you're going to be working for the Chinese

1775
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 4: twenty away from seven?

1776
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: Ever, do for see Ellen's Hey.

1777
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 4: By the way, before I get to grant some book review,

1778
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 4: did you know that we've been mispronouncing Ikea this whole time.

1779
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 4: It's not Ikea, it's beatty.

1780
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 3: How do I do it?

1781
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 4: Ikia? You've got to, You've got to. You've got to

1782
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 4: really put your emphasis on that key the care. But

1783
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 4: so it's Ikia. Anyway you think you're gonna try it now?

1784
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 4: I'm not going to try. I don't care. I don't care.

1785
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 4: I don't even make anything with Pukakoe. I'm not making

1786
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 4: anything with Ikea.

1787
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 3: Here we go.

1788
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 4: Grant Robertson's book review. Okay, so, in my humble opinion,

1789
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 4: having read his book from start to finish, it is

1790
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 4: not as well written as Jacinda's book. Now, if you know,

1791
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 4: if you remember my book review from Jacinda's book, Justina's

1792
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 4: book started off awesome. She had some great yarns, and

1793
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 4: she's actually a very good writer. Grant I don't think

1794
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 4: has the same kind of written flair, Like he doesn't

1795
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 4: tell as good a yarn. He's got a lot of

1796
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 4: like funnyish little anecdotes about some famous but like literally

1797
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 4: every famous people person he meets seems to have made

1798
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 4: it into the book. But they're kind, they're really short

1799
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 4: little yarns, like they would be better at a dinner

1800
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 4: party than in a book, do you know what I mean?

1801
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 4: It's like a and you can sort of see how

1802
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 4: he's recycled a lot of his very funny stories that

1803
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: he has told at dinner parties that's had uproar, everybody's

1804
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 4: laughing at it. He's kind of put it in the book,

1805
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 4: and it's just the delivery is required in order for

1806
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 4: it to work, So the book just reads a little bit.

1807
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 4: It's annoying. A lot of political books written by former

1808
01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 4: politicians or journalists kind of fall into the same train.

1809
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 4: Just because it was funny at a dinner party doesn't

1810
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 4: mean it works on pages, do you know what I mean? However,

1811
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 4: having said that, what I've enjoyed about Grant's book is

1812
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 4: that it is more honest than Jacinda's book. Mart Like,

1813
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 4: not one hundred percent honest. I mean, he's not going

1814
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 4: to admit that he basically bankrupted the country or not.

1815
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 4: I mean, that's over the top from me, isn't it.

1816
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 4: He's not going to admit that he just blue cash

1817
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 4: on nonsense while he was the Finance minister. He's not

1818
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 4: going that far. But the problem with Jacinda's book is

1819
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 4: she pretends that her government never did anything bad. All

1820
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 4: the bad things that happened were, you know, external things

1821
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 4: that happened, COVID, the mosque shooting, White Island. She just

1822
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 4: handled them brilliantly. Though she doesn't basically acknowledge any of

1823
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 4: the crap that she and her government did. He though,

1824
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 4: is slightly more honest, because at least he talks about

1825
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 4: their failure to deliver, which was a massive problem for

1826
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 4: that government. The best stories in the book, I think

1827
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 4: there are two of them. The first is the time

1828
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 4: that he drank an entire bottle of gin in full

1829
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 4: five minutes, and that kind of thing really humanizes him.

1830
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 4: He was very young. I feel like he was at university,

1831
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 4: all very end of school or something, and he hadn't

1832
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 4: come out as gay yet, but some of the kids

1833
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 4: were being mean about gay people and it was aimed

1834
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 4: at him, and he hadn't been invited to a party

1835
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 4: basically because he was gay, and he got wind of it.

1836
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 4: He was so upset he went and bought a bottle

1837
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 4: of gin while walking to the party and drank the

1838
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 4: entire thing. And I mean that shows you how difficult

1839
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 4: it is for some people to come out. He also

1840
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 4: talks about anxiety. Now I didn't realize that he was

1841
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 4: suffering this level of anxiety when he was the Foreign Minister,

1842
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 4: but it was just after he started experiencing really bad

1843
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 4: back issues and he'd had some treatment for it that

1844
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 4: hadn't gone very well. And then j just Sinda told

1845
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 4: him that she was going to quit, and he writes,

1846
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 4: I went back to the hotel where I was staying,

1847
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 4: I had a shower, and I went to bed. I

1848
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 4: decided not to take the medication. I'm a bit of

1849
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 4: a whiss when it comes to pills, and I felt

1850
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 4: a bit better after talking with Mum. About two am,

1851
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 4: I woke up and I began shaking uncontrollably, could not stop.

1852
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 4: I got up, I made a cup of tea. I

1853
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 4: sat on the couch, hoping for it to pass. After

1854
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,560
Speaker 4: what felt like hours, my heart began to slow a

1855
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 4: bit and the shaking stopped. I had no idea what

1856
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 4: a panic attack was, but it is clear to me

1857
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 4: now that this is what it was. He goes on

1858
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 4: to have some therapy. He never has another panic attack.

1859
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 4: He goes to see a therapist and tries to deal

1860
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 4: with it. What I would say is I did not agree.

1861
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 4: I do not agree with a lot of what Grant

1862
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 4: Robinson did while he was the finance minister. I think

1863
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 4: he may have been one of the poorest finance ministers

1864
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 4: that we had. But I am very sorry to read

1865
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 4: that it got so stressful for him that he physically

1866
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 4: had a reaction to it.

1867
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 3: So there you go.

1868
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 4: That's everything you needed to know in the book. You

1869
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 4: now do not need to buy it. I did it

1870
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 4: for you. You're welcome and the Brady next sixteen away

1871
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 4: from seven.

1872
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 2: I think whether it's the macro MicroB by just playing economics.

1873
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplic, Ellen

1874
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: and Mass for insurance Convestments and Killie Safer.

1875
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 2: You're in good hands News talks.

1876
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 4: Evy either what gindery drink? I don't know. Actually that's

1877
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 4: see there's color that was left out of a little

1878
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 4: bit of detail we could have done with I thirteen

1879
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 4: away from seven into Brady UK Correspondentelloinda.

1880
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 17: Hello, Heather, good to speak to again.

1881
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 4: What do you think about this bias that's been leveled

1882
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 4: at the BBC.

1883
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 17: I think it's a very serious allegation to level at

1884
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 17: any broadcaster and it is not a good look. It's

1885
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 17: all over the front pages here and it's coming from

1886
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 17: a man who was a very respected journalist here, Michael Prescott,

1887
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 17: who was on an external board overseeing editorial standards and compliance,

1888
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 17: and he says he has profound concerns about some of

1889
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 17: the stuff that he saw going on at the BBC.

1890
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 17: But Chief amongst them this Panorama program which went out

1891
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 17: a year ago, just ahead of Trump's reelection, and it

1892
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 17: was all looking at the Capitol Hill riots, and they've

1893
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 17: basically spliced together two bits of the speech from different

1894
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 17: ends of a Trump speech, making him say something he

1895
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 17: did not say. So they were effectively saying that Trump

1896
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 17: had said to his supporters that he would walk the

1897
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 17: walk with them to Capitol Hill and fight like hell,

1898
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 17: and he didn't. He said he would walk with them

1899
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 17: to peacefully and patriotically protest, and then later on in

1900
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 17: the same speech, he said that he would fight like

1901
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 17: hell to overturn what Biden had done and stolen the election.

1902
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 17: So it's very very damaging.

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01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean from the sounds of things, because if

1904
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 4: you listen to the way that Panorama had spliced it together,

1905
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 4: there's music. There's a bit of music underneath it which

1906
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,560
Speaker 4: suggests it might have been a promo. Does that excuse it?

1907
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 17: No, not in the slightest. You can't mislead listeners, you

1908
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 17: can't mislead viewers. And if people say so, you're making

1909
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 17: someone say something they never did. I mean, there was

1910
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 17: an incident as well previously with the Queen where there

1911
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 17: was a documentary crew Queen Elizabeth the Second following her around,

1912
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 17: and it made it look as if she'd flounced out

1913
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 17: of a room after meeting someone. Never happened. Never happened. So,

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01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 17: you know, the BBC, I think their problem is there's

1915
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 17: an arrogance there at the high level. I think the

1916
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 17: place is run by private schoolboys who never really kind

1917
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,520
Speaker 17: of fully develop as journalists. And this is bad journalism.

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01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 17: I mean, it's like watching sport if you know, if

1919
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 17: you know that the sportsperson is on drugs, the game

1920
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 17: is over. Yeah, you can't believe what you're seeing. And

1921
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 17: when an audience can't trust journalists to deliver the news,

1922
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 17: well then you know you've lost your audience.

1923
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, fair point. And now listen. Is there a suggestion

1924
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 4: that the cops might have missed an opportunity to catch

1925
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 4: that knife attacker about a day before?

1926
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 17: Yes, and this is serious. So the problem was that

1927
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 17: the incident was not quickly reported to police. So a

1928
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 17: man who bears a very striking resemblance, shall I say,

1929
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 17: to the individual charge with the ten attempted murders on

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Speaker 17: the train, has gone into a barbershop in Peterborough with

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01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 17: what looks to be a foot long knife. I mean

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Speaker 17: you're talking sword territory here. He's brandished it in the

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Speaker 17: barbershop and then left. But the problem was no phone

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Speaker 17: call went to the police immediately. He then came back

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Speaker 17: a few hours later, and then a call went to

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Speaker 17: the police. It took officers eighteen minutes to turn up

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Speaker 17: in a small town, and when they arrived they couldn't

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Speaker 17: find this individual. And as I say, an individual bearing

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Speaker 17: a very strong resemblance to this man then turns up

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Speaker 17: on the train stabbing people. The police force has referred

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Speaker 17: itself to the Umbudsman, basically the police watchdog, but they're

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Speaker 17: saying no further action will be taken because of the

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Speaker 17: length of time it took the public to alert the police.

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Speaker 4: I have a question for you about Prince William. Right,

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Speaker 4: so he's traveled to Brazil ahead of this cop thing,

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Speaker 4: and I was thinking the other day part of I

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Speaker 4: feel like it's problematic for him to be involving himself

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Speaker 4: in a political cause, which is what the climate is,

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Speaker 4: to the extent that he is.

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Speaker 2: What do you think.

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Speaker 17: I've no problem with William involving himself. I think he's

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Speaker 17: a very strong voice. He's one of the most recognizable

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Speaker 17: men on earth. And I think he's a voice for

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Speaker 17: good and I think he's following his father footsteps. He's

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Speaker 17: doing all the things now that his father can't do

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Speaker 17: and that William will not be able to do as

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Speaker 17: soon as he becomes king. So I applaud him. I

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Speaker 17: think it's wonderful what he's doing. He's wanting to make

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Speaker 17: a difference. And look he as we've seen some of

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Speaker 17: the behavior from his close relatives over the last decades,

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Speaker 17: he could be doing far worse, could they.

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Speaker 4: Yes, But I mean, is it not possible? The climate

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Speaker 4: thing is becoming increasingly fraught, right, and I only see

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Speaker 4: and certainly in New Zealand, I see this really becoming

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Speaker 4: quite a political thing. Is it not possible that by

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Speaker 4: staking a claim to one side, that he actually puts

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Speaker 4: the royal family into politics, the very thing that the

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Speaker 4: queen avoided in order that they kind of rise above it,

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Speaker 4: you know, and Niver get tanged posible.

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Speaker 17: Well, look, let's be frankier, Heather, the Queen avoided a

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Speaker 17: lot of things dealing with her son, Andrew was chief

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Speaker 17: amongst them. So if William is going to put himself

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Speaker 17: out there and puts some hard work in and look

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Speaker 17: this earth Shot Prize that he's gone to initially present

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Speaker 17: the winners of in Brazil in the next twenty four hours.

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Speaker 17: If they find something that can actually make life on

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Speaker 17: Earth better and we can sort out the climate crisis.

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Speaker 17: Good on him. Let me tell you one quick anecdote.

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Speaker 17: I've just come back from Morocco. We booked a trip

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Speaker 17: up into the Atlas Mountains and the guide took us

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Speaker 17: to see the Emu's Air Waterfall, supposedly one of the

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Speaker 17: most beautiful things in the whole of Africa. We got

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Speaker 17: there and there was no water. Yeah, and I said

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Speaker 17: to the guide, so where's the waterfall and he said, oh,

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Speaker 17: we haven't had rain here for five years.

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Speaker 3: Hey, so there you go.

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Speaker 17: That happened on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Could have told you that before he took you up

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Speaker 4: to see the waterfall. Goodness may that was that was

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Speaker 4: That was.

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Speaker 3: What my dad said. That was what my dad said.

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Speaker 3: He said my dad's exact words.

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Speaker 17: He said, Jesus, this guy could be irish.

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much. Make good to talk to you. Into Brady,

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Speaker 4: UK correspondent coming up Saving Away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the hitherto per Se Alan Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by news dog Zibby here there read.

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Speaker 4: The BBC dibacle read the Trump speech. So many of

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Speaker 4: us have already lost all trust and main street, mainstream media.

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Speaker 4: I don't blame you. I mean this kind of thing

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Speaker 4: is just devastating, is it now? Shi Jingpan speaking because

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Speaker 4: we were speaking about the Chinese before. Shujingping has cracked

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Speaker 4: a joke about spyware and Chinese phones. And I didn't

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Speaker 4: think the man had a sense of humor at all,

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Speaker 4: particularly about the fact that he's spying on the world,

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Speaker 4: but apparently he does. So he you know, they do

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Speaker 4: this thing. He met with a South Korean president and

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Speaker 4: they exchanged gifts, and he gave the South Korean president

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Speaker 4: a couple of Chinese smartphones, and the South Korean president's

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Speaker 4: got balls a he goes is the communication line secure?

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Speaker 4: And it was translated to g and when Gi here's

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Speaker 4: the translation, he actually laughs at it and then points

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Speaker 4: at the phones and said, you should check if there

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Speaker 4: is a backdoor, which is basically when you install that,

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Speaker 4: you know, have pre installed software that allows the third

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Speaker 4: party monitoring. So lolls at that lo lo lo lol.

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Speaker 4: Actually don't know, I don't know, did that make you

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Speaker 4: feel like that's more chance or least chance that the

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Speaker 4: Chinese are spying on you through your phone.

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Speaker 14: I don't know, and call your girlfriend by Robin to

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Speaker 14: play us out tonight. The news out is that Robin

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Speaker 14: is going to be releasing new music, a new album

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Speaker 14: for the first time since twenty eighteen. So it's been

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Speaker 14: a long time between drinks for her. But yeah, the

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Speaker 14: album is set for next year and it's going to

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Speaker 14: be called SIG's Estential.

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Speaker 4: Now when you say Robin, am I supposed to know who?

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Speaker 3: This is?

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Speaker 14: Robin the Swedish singer. Hey, so she's a Swedish singer.

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Speaker 14: So her two big hats of this one call your

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Speaker 14: girlfriend and she has no one called Dancing on my

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Speaker 14: Own that we're both very big in the twenty tens.

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Speaker 14: But she's been around since the nineties. Nah, she's made.

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Speaker 14: She's joined Charlie XCX on stage recently Gracie Abrams as well.

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Speaker 14: Everyone's into it.

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Speaker 4: How does dancing on my own?

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Speaker 2: Go?

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Speaker 4: Ants?

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Speaker 25: Oh, okay, this is.

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Speaker 14: Your one year that you get I keep dancing on

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Speaker 14: my own?

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Speaker 4: No, do you know that one?

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Speaker 21: Bet? Do you?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: It's just me?

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Speaker 4: Sorry answer, This is not an indictment of your singing.

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Speaker 14: Which wait for next year.

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Speaker 4: Hey that was quite good.

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Speaker 14: Oh Thanksiver.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to make you do all the stings. If

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Speaker 4: you miss a sting, you have to sing it from

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Speaker 4: now on.

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Speaker 14: I'm being punished my good singing voice.

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Speaker 25: Look at that.

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Speaker 4: Never is this thing after this?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, as appreciate that very much. Here's

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Speaker 4: your Robin. See you tomorrow.

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