WEBVTT - On The Front Foot Episode 257: Assessing the Black Caps squad for England and Ireland 0:00:09.093 --> 0:00:11.973 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk set B. 0:00:12.373 --> 0:00:16.133 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 0:00:21.293 --> 0:00:26.333 Take It's trick. It is out, The Test is over. 0:00:28.573 --> 0:00:31.453 Good smoke, beauty, it is out. 0:00:32.373 --> 0:00:34.733 Here he goes. This delivery has in many uses. 0:00:34.813 --> 0:00:41.053 People on the Front Foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody, 0:00:41.413 --> 0:00:45.253 powered by News Talks head B at iHeartRadio. 0:00:46.693 --> 0:00:48.933 Hello, time to get on the front foot once again. 0:00:49.213 --> 0:00:52.413 The squad for England and Ireland the Test matches has 0:00:52.453 --> 0:00:58.053 been released. Surprises some players not able to go for 0:00:58.213 --> 0:01:01.933 family reasons, not like it used to be, and the 0:01:02.013 --> 0:01:05.333 White Perons prepare for the World Pea Cootie Championship of 0:01:05.453 --> 0:01:10.973 the Series against England. This gracious media, it's all happening overseas. 0:01:11.173 --> 0:01:14.013 Jeremy Canney, you're heading off that way and you'll be 0:01:14.093 --> 0:01:18.173 able to read the sort of stuff that Peter Hollin's 0:01:18.213 --> 0:01:20.373 been reading, because you know what we talked about last 0:01:20.413 --> 0:01:23.493 week in terms of the subs, Well, he's been reading 0:01:23.653 --> 0:01:28.093 highbrow papers and he's come up with a little piece 0:01:28.213 --> 0:01:31.693 that somebody has written about the substitute and I'll just 0:01:31.773 --> 0:01:33.893 have a look at it. It's exactly what we were saying, 0:01:34.293 --> 0:01:37.813 I'm not sure that the injury subs rule is right 0:01:37.893 --> 0:01:41.293 for the county game. Teams are already gaming the system 0:01:41.733 --> 0:01:45.453 and replacing players due to illness. We could see that coming, 0:01:45.533 --> 0:01:49.133 couldn't we. Archie Vaughan was flaying the bowling and he 0:01:49.253 --> 0:01:53.773 was the thirteenth man for Somerset, and the writer says, 0:01:54.093 --> 0:01:57.853 must be the first instance of a thirteenth man winning 0:01:57.893 --> 0:02:01.773 a county championship match. We're going to see more of those, 0:02:01.933 --> 0:02:03.053 aren't we. We're going to see more. 0:02:03.733 --> 0:02:08.293 Yeah, that's the issue with the different the problems about 0:02:08.533 --> 0:02:13.693 like for like, isn't it? And how serious is a 0:02:13.773 --> 0:02:18.613 soft tishoe injury? You don't quite know? You mentioned about, 0:02:18.773 --> 0:02:21.973 you know, a broken bone, and it is it is. 0:02:22.253 --> 0:02:25.813 It's unfortunate when those things happen, but that's the game. 0:02:26.333 --> 0:02:29.213 Those are the game. You know the rules of the game. 0:02:29.373 --> 0:02:32.053 And I prefer to have it eleven versus eleven. As 0:02:32.093 --> 0:02:33.173 I said last week. 0:02:33.853 --> 0:02:37.133 I'm surprising it so much time to read most Peter 0:02:37.253 --> 0:02:39.733 Holland with us again. You've got all that time to 0:02:39.853 --> 0:02:41.493 read such high. 0:02:41.333 --> 0:02:46.493 Brow Well, that's right, and I'm coming to you from 0:02:46.573 --> 0:02:51.413 the the the delightful Australian Club here in Melbourne at 0:02:51.453 --> 0:02:55.973 this moment where where the people here. Lovely Louise who 0:02:56.093 --> 0:02:59.053 runs the show kind of has put up with me 0:02:59.173 --> 0:03:01.653 for the last few days, so it gives me time 0:03:01.693 --> 0:03:05.133 to do a bit of reading and improvement vocabulary. Brian 0:03:06.013 --> 0:03:09.253 that articles that articles by Rod Alter, and I think 0:03:09.373 --> 0:03:12.253 rites for the Times, but in this particular one it 0:03:12.413 --> 0:03:15.373 was he pinched hits from time to time, and the 0:03:15.453 --> 0:03:18.733 other newspaper that I read he writes. 0:03:18.573 --> 0:03:21.693 Well, yeah he's under he's under contract, so he's sort 0:03:21.733 --> 0:03:25.173 of playing a T twenty league as he was another newspaper. 0:03:26.853 --> 0:03:30.293 I think I like his observations put it that way, 0:03:30.373 --> 0:03:33.173 but I just I just think that was a great 0:03:33.253 --> 0:03:36.893 example of it's seemingly getting a little a little bit 0:03:36.973 --> 0:03:40.333 ridiculous and being gained and and it's really not as 0:03:40.373 --> 0:03:42.893 the game was set up, as Jerry pointed out last week. 0:03:43.373 --> 0:03:46.173 But we'll see more of it, no doubt exactly. 0:03:46.813 --> 0:03:48.813 Well, we've did our best to pick the team Jerry 0:03:49.013 --> 0:03:52.773 for England. We weren't sort of counting on injuries and 0:03:54.133 --> 0:04:00.133 birthing units coming into proceedings. But the honest Jacob Duffy, 0:04:00.173 --> 0:04:03.373 I think as part of the side him and his 0:04:03.493 --> 0:04:07.413 wife expecting their first child. Michael Bracewell has expressed his 0:04:07.573 --> 0:04:10.613 desire to step back from Test cricket and focus his 0:04:10.733 --> 0:04:13.813 time on his young family and limited overs cricket. So 0:04:13.853 --> 0:04:17.213 it's priorities and money now, because he could have focused 0:04:17.253 --> 0:04:19.613 on the Test matches and not gone to Pakistan or 0:04:19.653 --> 0:04:23.173 played short form cricket, I suppose, But yeah, that's the 0:04:23.213 --> 0:04:24.253 way of the game now, isn't it. 0:04:24.613 --> 0:04:26.933 Yeah, it is words. We are going to miss Duffy. 0:04:27.133 --> 0:04:31.573 I think over there Paul swing it away decent pace, 0:04:32.373 --> 0:04:34.413 would enjoy the Duke's ball I think. 0:04:35.813 --> 0:04:38.693 Gets decent bounce, so he can also use a short ball. 0:04:39.133 --> 0:04:42.773 He's also durable and he can bowl long spells are required, 0:04:42.813 --> 0:04:45.573 and I think that's where the loss will be felt too, 0:04:46.173 --> 0:04:51.013 especially if O'Rourke and Jamison are in the bowling attack 0:04:51.093 --> 0:04:54.973 and returning from stress fractures and haven't played Test cricket 0:04:55.013 --> 0:04:57.373 for a while and don't know quite how many overs 0:04:57.453 --> 0:05:00.693 they can bowl in a spell let alone for a day, 0:05:01.813 --> 0:05:06.133 So I think you know he's going to be missed 0:05:06.573 --> 0:05:09.893 and someone has to bowl those overs. A centener of 0:05:10.013 --> 0:05:14.013 course had an injury, didn't he, But in the hand 0:05:14.093 --> 0:05:17.413 he runs at number seven or eight, and you know, 0:05:17.533 --> 0:05:20.933 and the calmness he brings when it gets a bit tough. 0:05:21.533 --> 0:05:23.613 And he seems in the last couple of seasons to 0:05:23.693 --> 0:05:25.613 be able to know how to take Test wickets now. 0:05:26.173 --> 0:05:31.173 But Bracewell's the one, isn't it choosing choosing the franchise game. 0:05:31.573 --> 0:05:36.093 I don't know what you guys think about that. I personally, 0:05:36.653 --> 0:05:39.373 I'm not convinced New Zealand have used him as they 0:05:39.493 --> 0:05:43.653 might because I feel certainly in Red Bull cricket, you know, 0:05:43.773 --> 0:05:47.533 if you imagine that side and it also brings in 0:05:48.493 --> 0:05:53.453 Nichols ahead of Young, doesn't it If Nichols, that's say 0:05:53.893 --> 0:05:56.973 Blundle doesn't go well or something like that and has 0:05:57.053 --> 0:05:59.893 to move down because he's the only keeper there. Really, 0:06:00.733 --> 0:06:02.573 I don't know whether Latham, if he has to keep, 0:06:02.613 --> 0:06:04.613 does he open. See there's a whole lot of little 0:06:04.693 --> 0:06:06.373 issues that start to emerge. 0:06:07.533 --> 0:06:07.693 You know. 0:06:08.013 --> 0:06:10.813 If Nichols bats at six, that's four left handers in 0:06:10.893 --> 0:06:14.813 the top six and right arm bowlers for England will 0:06:14.853 --> 0:06:17.973 come around the wicket. They're more accustomed to it, they're 0:06:17.973 --> 0:06:21.293 getting better at it, and they of course have three 0:06:21.733 --> 0:06:23.933 in the top six will have be left handed as well. 0:06:24.973 --> 0:06:27.293 That means our bowlers will be doing the same. There'll 0:06:27.333 --> 0:06:31.893 be more footmarks and an off spinner like Bracewell who 0:06:32.013 --> 0:06:35.213 turns the ball and brings the stumps back into play 0:06:35.293 --> 0:06:38.613 from outside the off stump later in the Test match 0:06:38.693 --> 0:06:42.733 would be very, very useful. I think in my opinion, 0:06:43.213 --> 0:06:46.533 he's you know, we've continually gone for these batsmen who 0:06:46.613 --> 0:06:49.413 bowl a bit. Took his uncle John some time to 0:06:49.493 --> 0:06:52.653 get time, didn't it really in the team? And then 0:06:52.693 --> 0:06:56.533 he won a game at Eden Park against Australia for US. 0:06:57.533 --> 0:07:00.573 He won a Test match in eighty eight. Wasn't it 0:07:01.213 --> 0:07:04.693 was you there in India? He bowled India out. So 0:07:05.133 --> 0:07:10.693 you know, I just think, know turn and dip and drift, 0:07:10.733 --> 0:07:14.013 it's hard to play and brace will I thought had 0:07:14.053 --> 0:07:17.533 those abilities. I wondered whether we could have assisted them 0:07:17.573 --> 0:07:20.453 a bit more. He's also shown that he's a good 0:07:20.533 --> 0:07:25.533 hands in the field short cover or slip. He can battle. 0:07:25.613 --> 0:07:28.613 We But I just is coming into leadership with the 0:07:28.933 --> 0:07:31.733 with the you know, the white ball. Now thirty five 0:07:31.853 --> 0:07:35.773 two kids going for the cash. That's a and that's 0:07:36.013 --> 0:07:39.453 we can't there's no judgment about that. It's just a 0:07:39.613 --> 0:07:42.933 shame that we've lost someone like that. 0:07:43.133 --> 0:07:47.373 I think, yeah, well, we've got the likes of aj S. 0:07:47.413 --> 0:07:51.453 Patel is bowling for Leicestershire in England at the moment, 0:07:51.733 --> 0:07:53.933 you know, so he's an out and out spinner. We've 0:07:54.053 --> 0:07:57.373 taken spinners on a tours. Lennox has been there, We've 0:07:57.413 --> 0:08:00.653 had other places, but we don't seem to have the 0:08:00.853 --> 0:08:04.813 faith to select them or use them, do we. 0:08:05.813 --> 0:08:08.853 I was going to observe that that I was playing 0:08:09.213 --> 0:08:12.893 in England at the moment, and that may well be 0:08:13.533 --> 0:08:16.493 something of a standby for four years. You live and 0:08:16.853 --> 0:08:20.333 things go a little bit pair shape for them. But 0:08:20.933 --> 0:08:25.533 in last week's podcast, I think I somewhat labored the 0:08:25.573 --> 0:08:30.093 point that I thought Bracewell would be a very useful 0:08:30.253 --> 0:08:33.493 addition to the squad, but clearly he doesn't listen to 0:08:33.573 --> 0:08:38.493 the podcast and being convinced by the arguments put by us. 0:08:38.653 --> 0:08:39.573 But so be it. 0:08:40.613 --> 0:08:44.733 I'm just on jury's observation around Duffy thinking about this 0:08:45.013 --> 0:08:49.853 and thinking he was quite a while before he actually 0:08:49.933 --> 0:08:54.293 got into the New Zealand framework and developed himself and 0:08:54.693 --> 0:08:58.573 improved over time. And now I would have thought one 0:08:58.573 --> 0:09:01.973 of the greatest opportunities you can have is to run 0:09:02.013 --> 0:09:06.173 out and bowl let Lord's in early June, and he's 0:09:06.213 --> 0:09:08.053 going to be stuck back in the depths of New 0:09:08.133 --> 0:09:11.293 zeal And, went to in Dneed and with a young baby. 0:09:11.373 --> 0:09:13.533 I'm going, oh, I. 0:09:13.693 --> 0:09:18.533 Wouldn't have worked all my life trying to make me 0:09:18.613 --> 0:09:19.933 the good bowler that I am, and all of a 0:09:19.973 --> 0:09:22.253 sudden I'm giving that up. But such as life these days. 0:09:23.333 --> 0:09:26.013 But I just think he must. It must be a 0:09:26.053 --> 0:09:30.013 bit turn, I think, because surely there is nothing better. 0:09:30.173 --> 0:09:32.533 And Jerry, you've done it. Yeah, you walk out of 0:09:32.613 --> 0:09:35.133 Lords through the long room there. Yeah, that's that's just 0:09:35.413 --> 0:09:41.413 one of crickets great experiences. So I wonder how he 0:09:41.493 --> 0:09:43.853 actually thinks about that. But I'm sure he'll be very 0:09:43.893 --> 0:09:46.373 good at Nappy's and all of those good things. Yeah, 0:09:46.573 --> 0:09:49.573 but we also in that in the balance that squad 0:09:49.653 --> 0:09:52.613 worries me, but quite a few quicks, a lot of quicks, 0:09:53.213 --> 0:09:56.893 and really one better, which is Phillips. 0:09:57.853 --> 0:10:01.253 Well, really, guys, we haven't got This is a squad 0:10:01.893 --> 0:10:03.853 and a team without a front line spinner. 0:10:04.693 --> 0:10:06.773 Well that's kind of where I was leading to, Jerry. 0:10:07.453 --> 0:10:12.453 You revenge, not rather, that's not being disrespectful to revenge. 0:10:12.733 --> 0:10:17.293 Philip Boxcraft it's just look, they could play four seemers. 0:10:18.013 --> 0:10:20.213 New Zealand could go into the side with no spinner 0:10:20.213 --> 0:10:22.933 at all, which I think would be a mistake. The 0:10:23.013 --> 0:10:26.653 game is five days long, not two days, not three days, 0:10:27.813 --> 0:10:31.293 so I think you should always go in with the 0:10:31.333 --> 0:10:32.613 front line spinner if you can. 0:10:33.413 --> 0:10:35.133 So we are going to have do we do that? 0:10:35.533 --> 0:10:36.813 We're going to pile in the. 0:10:36.853 --> 0:10:41.693 Batsman and I don't know quite how we replace the 0:10:41.813 --> 0:10:46.293 Duffy factor. I mean, I'm assuming Henry would be say 0:10:46.453 --> 0:10:50.773 nine fellas, and I'm assuming that O'Rourke would play because 0:10:50.813 --> 0:10:54.653 of you know, he's a dangerous bowler. But who who's 0:10:54.693 --> 0:10:59.013 going at say ten and eight? Seven would be say Phillips, 0:10:59.053 --> 0:11:01.173 A Blundle is six. I mean most of the time 0:11:01.173 --> 0:11:05.893 it's Lathon Conway, Williamson, Revendra, Mitchell Blundell. That's how it's 0:11:05.933 --> 0:11:07.373 been for the last couple of years. 0:11:08.373 --> 0:11:09.213 And so he's six. 0:11:09.413 --> 0:11:14.013 Seven would be Phillips presumably that's how it's been set up. 0:11:14.613 --> 0:11:15.453 But who goes eight? 0:11:23.333 --> 0:11:27.813 See here's the issue, nice tall bowler Jamison. Then you 0:11:27.853 --> 0:11:33.413 get Jamison and O'Rourke together. A few little questions, aren't they? 0:11:33.453 --> 0:11:36.373 You just don't know. Then we come back to. 0:11:39.173 --> 0:11:42.613 Well, they've got the situation with Smith. They obviously want 0:11:42.693 --> 0:11:46.133 him to be an all rounder and one who can back, 0:11:46.213 --> 0:11:49.093 but he still hasn't cemented that role yet. Has he 0:11:50.293 --> 0:11:52.813 workman like sort of player? And he might well be 0:11:53.013 --> 0:11:56.733 your fourth Seema quite clearly. Rob Walter and his selection 0:11:56.893 --> 0:12:02.973 team are going for pace. They're going for bounce, tall players. 0:12:03.533 --> 0:12:06.453 You know, they've got a truckload of fast bowlers there. 0:12:06.453 --> 0:12:09.653 I mean, think of the brains trust they've got in 0:12:09.773 --> 0:12:15.573 the dressing room. They've got folks Jamison and then they're 0:12:15.573 --> 0:12:18.053 going to have Michael Ray somewhere around. He's going to 0:12:18.093 --> 0:12:20.573 be playing an island. I'll bet he stays over in 0:12:20.693 --> 0:12:25.693 case's a test chance. Tickner's there and Zach Fuchs, Christian 0:12:25.773 --> 0:12:28.653 Clark is over there for Ireland. Ben Sears is going 0:12:28.693 --> 0:12:31.933 to be a traveling reserve number sixteen. So they're keeping 0:12:32.293 --> 0:12:36.853 everybody close by, aren't they in terms of their pace attack, 0:12:36.973 --> 0:12:39.693 So that's what they're going with in terms of putting 0:12:39.773 --> 0:12:40.693 pressure on Moose. 0:12:41.093 --> 0:12:44.613 Well, look they are, and I'm glad see this is 0:12:44.693 --> 0:12:49.093 there because I don't think that you can beat raw pace. 0:12:49.253 --> 0:12:53.453 And unfortunately we haven't seen as much as much of 0:12:53.573 --> 0:12:56.253 him as we would have liked due to injuries, but 0:12:56.413 --> 0:13:01.453 he's certainly shown something and I think they are taking 0:13:01.693 --> 0:13:05.133 some insurance with them if you like you've when he's 0:13:05.173 --> 0:13:11.053 a traveling reserve because his point, two of our bowlers 0:13:11.093 --> 0:13:16.213 are coming back from considerable and significant injuries back injuries 0:13:16.253 --> 0:13:19.493 and really have have they got the overs into their legs? 0:13:20.373 --> 0:13:22.573 So you know, will they be able to play all 0:13:22.653 --> 0:13:27.133 three Tests? Say that's that's a Rourke and Jamison. Perhaps 0:13:27.173 --> 0:13:29.333 they've got to rotate them a bit in order to 0:13:30.413 --> 0:13:33.373 yet not not have them breaking down. So there are 0:13:33.453 --> 0:13:35.693 some real real question match and and I agree with 0:13:35.773 --> 0:13:40.853 you Jery aside with four seemers and maybe an arounder, 0:13:42.173 --> 0:13:45.133 it lacks balance to me from what I can observe, 0:13:45.293 --> 0:13:50.253 the summer in England has been pretty good, so the 0:13:50.333 --> 0:13:54.333 wickets come day four, Day five are probably going to 0:13:54.413 --> 0:13:57.653 take a bit of turn. I would have thought I 0:13:57.733 --> 0:14:00.773 could be wrong there, but yeah, I like the fact 0:14:00.773 --> 0:14:04.133 they've got real pace, but I hard of me also 0:14:04.253 --> 0:14:08.973 says that the squad has lacks balance around the absence 0:14:09.013 --> 0:14:12.253 of a genuine spider and we'll find out. 0:14:12.333 --> 0:14:15.293 I suppose Wadd's the other thing I'd like to mention 0:14:15.533 --> 0:14:20.893 just briefly Nichols ahead of Young just quickly Young thirty three, 0:14:21.013 --> 0:14:23.973 Nichols thirty four, about the same age. Twenty three tests 0:14:24.013 --> 0:14:27.453 for Young, fifty eight for Nichols average thirty two, Young 0:14:27.813 --> 0:14:31.173 average thirty nine. Different types of players, of course, batting 0:14:31.213 --> 0:14:36.173 in different places, fielding both both okay, not specialists, not 0:14:36.253 --> 0:14:38.893 in the slipper and the gully close and both have 0:14:39.013 --> 0:14:42.693 played in England a bit, neither of them bold. But 0:14:42.933 --> 0:14:47.133 I just wonder as a backup batsman, because that's really 0:14:47.213 --> 0:14:50.773 what we're talking about there, I think in England, so 0:14:50.973 --> 0:14:54.933 you're trying to second guess where the problems might occur, 0:14:55.453 --> 0:14:58.813 where there may be, potential failures may be and you 0:14:58.933 --> 0:15:02.213 have to bring somebody in or an injury whatever. At 0:15:02.253 --> 0:15:05.253 the top, you've got Lathan Conway Williamson and you've got 0:15:05.373 --> 0:15:09.773 Ravendra Mitchell Blundle through the middle. Now I would have 0:15:09.893 --> 0:15:12.813 thought in June and England with the Duke's ball, the 0:15:12.893 --> 0:15:19.893 English bol as archer tongue definites Atkinson, Stokes or Robinson 0:15:20.053 --> 0:15:23.093 is starting to come into the thing again. 0:15:23.173 --> 0:15:25.973 He's a tall kind of Chris Wokes if you like. 0:15:27.333 --> 0:15:29.333 They may not pick a spinner either, I don't know, 0:15:29.773 --> 0:15:33.973 but Look, I just feel Young has bettered thirty five 0:15:34.093 --> 0:15:37.773 times at opening, Nichols hasn't opened. If the problem is 0:15:37.813 --> 0:15:41.373 at opening and coon Way for example, maybe who knows. 0:15:41.493 --> 0:15:45.653 No one wants this to face these problems. But Young 0:15:45.733 --> 0:15:47.653 would be better than in that case, wouldn't he? 0:15:48.413 --> 0:15:48.613 For me? 0:15:49.293 --> 0:15:53.453 He would be more accustomed to it. He's played in 0:15:53.533 --> 0:15:57.933 England more recently than Nichols hats. Nichols has never opened. 0:15:58.413 --> 0:16:01.933 He's battered four times at number three, and twice of 0:16:02.013 --> 0:16:06.573 them against Zimbabwe Bulawere. So I just feel if it's 0:16:06.653 --> 0:16:09.533 down in the middle order, sure they would change it. 0:16:10.213 --> 0:16:15.973 Ravendra Mitchell Blundled. If Blundle isn't isn't scoring ones, wouldn't 0:16:15.973 --> 0:16:18.653 they just drop him down to seven rather than six 0:16:19.373 --> 0:16:19.933 and and. 0:16:20.093 --> 0:16:21.053 Keep him as the keeper. 0:16:21.693 --> 0:16:25.253 I just feel that there's a question mark. Now what 0:16:25.333 --> 0:16:28.853 do you do about Australia when you've got Thummons and 0:16:28.933 --> 0:16:30.373 Stank and Hazelwood and Boland. 0:16:31.413 --> 0:16:33.053 Are you going to go with Nichols? 0:16:33.533 --> 0:16:36.453 Yeah? The end result with Blundele, of course, is there. 0:16:36.533 --> 0:16:39.013 His first job was keeping, isn't it You want? You 0:16:39.133 --> 0:16:41.733 want batting, but he's got to do the keeping job. 0:16:41.853 --> 0:16:45.333 And so you know, uh, one place down the order 0:16:45.613 --> 0:16:48.413 wouldn't be a big problem for him. Is it a 0:16:48.453 --> 0:16:50.733 bit too early to start worrying about Australia. We've got 0:16:50.773 --> 0:16:53.413 India coming here before Australia. But we've got to have 0:16:53.973 --> 0:16:55.093 those players. 0:16:57.573 --> 0:17:00.893 Delivering, don't we wasn't a big point, just a just 0:17:00.973 --> 0:17:03.293 a sort of a thing for the future, and so 0:17:03.453 --> 0:17:08.213 you're not continually swapping. And I just feel it's easier 0:17:08.373 --> 0:17:10.373 if you're an opener to back down in the middle order. 0:17:10.413 --> 0:17:13.013 You love it and actually you're probably coming in with 0:17:13.093 --> 0:17:16.013 the second new ball if your team's done anything decent 0:17:16.653 --> 0:17:19.733 and then you're able to handle it, okay, So I 0:17:21.613 --> 0:17:23.573 I just had a few little questions. I think it's 0:17:23.613 --> 0:17:28.253 a weaker squad then we selected, you know, a week 0:17:28.373 --> 0:17:30.573 or so ago, when we didn't know these things about 0:17:30.613 --> 0:17:32.533 injury and babies and the money. 0:17:33.933 --> 0:17:35.093 We're going to come into play. 0:17:35.373 --> 0:17:37.813 The interesting thing of course about Opening, the future of 0:17:37.893 --> 0:17:41.973 Opening is obviously around the likes of Marriyu Heafy and 0:17:42.973 --> 0:17:46.253 those players. Nick Kelly has just signed a contract to 0:17:46.293 --> 0:17:50.293 play for Leicestershire now. He's early thirty, so he's been 0:17:50.373 --> 0:17:53.533 around the scene for a while. I just wonder at 0:17:53.573 --> 0:17:58.453 the Foxcroft selection because he is a talented short form 0:17:58.533 --> 0:18:02.853 player to my mind, doesn't feature as a Test match 0:18:02.893 --> 0:18:06.213 player in my thinking. But he bowls offspin. Is that 0:18:06.333 --> 0:18:08.253 what he's being picked for? To add a little bit 0:18:08.373 --> 0:18:12.213 offspin if they needed because that place could have gone 0:18:12.253 --> 0:18:15.013 to Mario or if he couldn't it In terms of 0:18:15.453 --> 0:18:18.973 a development player, I know you don't pick development players, 0:18:19.013 --> 0:18:20.453 but that's what you've done with Foxcroft. 0:18:20.733 --> 0:18:24.293 Well, that's true, and I think we did touch on 0:18:25.373 --> 0:18:33.453 the possible weaknesses of Conway concerns. We hope for the best, 0:18:33.573 --> 0:18:36.533 but his form of the last couple of years hasn't 0:18:36.573 --> 0:18:39.813 really been what he would have wanted nor us and 0:18:39.933 --> 0:18:43.973 I would have liked to have seen the likes of Mario. 0:18:44.053 --> 0:18:46.733 But it looks like Nichols gets the nod because he 0:18:46.853 --> 0:18:50.373 scored it pretty domestic cricket. 0:18:50.453 --> 0:18:57.693 And yeah, the other thing, the other point is what 0:18:57.813 --> 0:19:00.093 sort of cricketers Kane Williams has been playing? Will he 0:19:00.213 --> 0:19:02.333 be ready for Test match cricket? Has he been betting 0:19:02.413 --> 0:19:05.173 long and he's something to do with one of the 0:19:05.253 --> 0:19:09.013 IPL sides, But he hasn't had any real cricket, has 0:19:09.093 --> 0:19:12.253 he He might have had hats, he might have had 0:19:12.333 --> 0:19:13.933 chort form, but is he ready to take on a 0:19:13.973 --> 0:19:18.653 Test match at Laws, and I don't want to downplay 0:19:18.733 --> 0:19:20.693 his role. I mean, he's one of our great players. 0:19:21.213 --> 0:19:23.853 But you've still got to get ready, don't you. You've 0:19:23.893 --> 0:19:26.613 still got to prepare. It's like the days when we 0:19:26.693 --> 0:19:29.653 went to England and the likes of Trent Bolton and 0:19:29.813 --> 0:19:33.413 Saudi just arrived on the plane from India and went 0:19:33.453 --> 0:19:36.813 straight into a Test match and we sometimes weren't quite 0:19:36.933 --> 0:19:38.333 ready until about day four. 0:19:38.893 --> 0:19:41.213 Yeah, that's a good point. I mean it's a little 0:19:41.253 --> 0:19:45.253 bit like Stokes too. Stokes does not play for Durham. 0:19:45.693 --> 0:19:48.533 He's had something like about six games and four years 0:19:48.853 --> 0:19:49.613 for his counting. 0:19:50.133 --> 0:19:52.853 He really just has nets and tests. 0:19:53.653 --> 0:19:57.093 And that's what you're describing about Williamson. Now lose the 0:19:57.293 --> 0:20:00.493 rhythm of batting. You lose the rhythm of standing at 0:20:00.533 --> 0:20:03.413 the non strikers, in running quick singles, getting into your 0:20:03.733 --> 0:20:08.013 crease again, taking looking through those top two inches between 0:20:08.053 --> 0:20:11.333 the hell helmot and the peak, you know, and just 0:20:11.533 --> 0:20:14.133 getting into the rhythm of scoring loads of runs. 0:20:14.173 --> 0:20:17.173 Now he's scored loads of runs and it won't. 0:20:16.933 --> 0:20:20.013 Take him quite so long, but it still is something 0:20:20.093 --> 0:20:22.573 that he is missing of actually playing games. 0:20:23.013 --> 0:20:24.053 It's a worthy point. 0:20:24.533 --> 0:20:26.973 You have to back him in on the base of class, 0:20:27.693 --> 0:20:31.613 and that's what they're clearly doing. And he has had 0:20:31.653 --> 0:20:34.693 a fair amount of experience in English conditions. I think 0:20:34.733 --> 0:20:37.373 he's played for Middle six most recently, maybe that was 0:20:37.453 --> 0:20:42.173 last year. But you're right, Jerry, there's no warm up 0:20:42.253 --> 0:20:46.693 games apart from the match against Ireland, and that's not 0:20:46.933 --> 0:20:49.053 fair on Island to say that's that's a warm up 0:20:49.093 --> 0:20:52.213 match because it's actually a test, isn't it? So is 0:20:52.293 --> 0:20:55.173 that sufficient day's gone by, you'd have had a few 0:20:55.213 --> 0:20:58.493 counter games, correct, But that I get the benefit of 0:20:58.573 --> 0:21:00.733 that anymore? Was the pity because they're not playing the 0:21:00.773 --> 0:21:03.813 ip O. Of course a lot of them are, but 0:21:04.093 --> 0:21:07.813 I think sheer class should come through. But there are 0:21:07.853 --> 0:21:11.653 some vulnera buies in there, aren't there. But the other 0:21:11.733 --> 0:21:15.133 part is I actually am looking quite quite looking forward 0:21:15.213 --> 0:21:19.973 to this and Jerry, I'm heading back home on the 0:21:20.093 --> 0:21:23.213 fourth from out of London. I might just stay on 0:21:23.333 --> 0:21:25.293 a couple of days perhaps and watch a few first 0:21:25.493 --> 0:21:26.893 a few days of the text match. 0:21:27.333 --> 0:21:30.893 World tourists got okay, well, it just gives a call 0:21:30.893 --> 0:21:32.053 in the middle of the night too, will you. 0:21:35.973 --> 0:21:39.133 After a day at Lord's Moose that would be good. 0:21:39.573 --> 0:21:42.933 The moose I and and the praying mentors. 0:21:45.373 --> 0:21:50.413 Everyone for me, Oh yeah, I'm feeling sorry. 0:21:52.333 --> 0:21:54.373 Well, we'll look at this a little bit more closely, 0:21:55.133 --> 0:22:00.693 just to confirm that the English and whatever they call themselves, 0:22:00.773 --> 0:22:05.493 the TCB or the County Board whatever, having the same 0:22:05.573 --> 0:22:09.893 issues administration. They I've been looking for a new selector 0:22:09.973 --> 0:22:13.093 to replace Luke Wright, who resigned from the role on 0:22:13.173 --> 0:22:17.933 the twenty second of January, and they still haven't replaced somebody. 0:22:18.293 --> 0:22:21.533 And they're naming their test match squad in a couple 0:22:21.573 --> 0:22:25.853 of weeks time. You'd have to wonder how they're going 0:22:25.933 --> 0:22:27.493 to go about. Is that just on's going to be 0:22:28.853 --> 0:22:33.253 Key McCullum and Stokes and the other selector who could 0:22:33.293 --> 0:22:35.973 be Stephen Finn, who could be Darren Goff, Alistair Cooks 0:22:36.013 --> 0:22:40.493 tennd it down. But they don't have a plan in place. 0:22:40.893 --> 0:22:44.013 They must have somebody there too. But they'll have spotters, 0:22:44.053 --> 0:22:45.173 won't they have spotters? 0:22:46.053 --> 0:22:49.333 Oh yes, they have a lot of the words, quite 0:22:49.573 --> 0:22:54.493 well developed systems of passing information. It's all very well 0:22:55.573 --> 0:22:58.493 say as a selectors say, like McCullum, who's been back 0:22:58.533 --> 0:23:00.453 here in New Zealm. I don't think he's a ride 0:23:00.533 --> 0:23:03.093 over in England yet I'm not sure. But you can 0:23:03.173 --> 0:23:07.413 watch live streams, can't you. Every match has got live 0:23:07.533 --> 0:23:10.693 streaming and see every ball if you want to do so. 0:23:11.293 --> 0:23:14.493 But that's different than getting to know the man, getting 0:23:14.533 --> 0:23:16.693 to know the head and the heart, what sort of 0:23:16.773 --> 0:23:20.493 person is he, how hard does he work, what's driving him, 0:23:20.773 --> 0:23:25.293 and those kinds of things, particularly that McCullum likes. Actually 0:23:25.413 --> 0:23:28.893 he likes that kind of aspect of players. But you 0:23:29.013 --> 0:23:32.453 can't tell that from a live stream. You can just 0:23:32.533 --> 0:23:35.533 see the runs and how he bats and his off 0:23:35.653 --> 0:23:38.453 drive and his turn and his cut, you know. So 0:23:39.373 --> 0:23:41.613 I think there's more to that, and that's where those 0:23:41.773 --> 0:23:45.333 scouts and those people who are at the grounds go 0:23:45.533 --> 0:23:47.493 and talk to the to the players. 0:23:48.093 --> 0:23:51.733 So that's a very well developed system in England. Brian Waddell, 0:23:52.133 --> 0:23:54.933 Jeremy Coney on the front foot, the. 0:23:54.973 --> 0:23:58.013 White Ferns are already in the United Kingdom preparing for 0:23:58.293 --> 0:24:00.973 the defense of the World T twenty title with an 0:24:01.013 --> 0:24:03.933 ode I and T twenty series with England could hardly 0:24:04.013 --> 0:24:07.333 be better preparation against the side high in favoritism for 0:24:07.413 --> 0:24:10.773 the World T twenty two and in conditions they'll face 0:24:10.933 --> 0:24:13.933 when The T twenty opens against the West Indies for 0:24:14.013 --> 0:24:18.093 New Zealand on June fourteenth. Last week, coach Ben Sawyer 0:24:18.253 --> 0:24:21.653