1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: So it works underway to get our police force equipped 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: with body cameras. They're looking to options over the next year. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Apparently the policeman is to Mark Mitchell with us this 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Monday morning, Morning. 5 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Mate, Good morning Mike. 6 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Is this a political decision, an operational decision or both? 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: No, it is an operational decision. And on the appointment 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: of the new commissioner, he was very clear that he 9 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: wanted to get feedback from the front line and start 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: looking at body cameras straight away, and that's what he's doing. 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: And when we talk about options like I mean, you 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: either do it or you don't. Doesn't it? 13 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: I mean? 14 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Or are there are lots of options out there? 15 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Oh, there might be different technical options out there. I mean, 16 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: we love as a government, we love technology. Last time 17 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: we're in government, we've had a huge investment into technology 18 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: for our frontline police officers to allow them to get 19 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: out of the stations more and do more work out 20 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: on the street. That was very effective. But they'll have 21 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: to look at the different technology options. 22 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: Are we a bit late to the party on this, 23 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: shouldn't our cops already have it in twenty twenty five? 24 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: Well, it is an operational decision. I personally like the 25 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: body cameras, but it is an operational decision for police. 26 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: But the commissioner, obviously, the incoming commissioner, said that he 27 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: had obviously a big focus on this. It's one of 28 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: the first things he spoke about. And so we'll wait 29 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: and see what happens they do in a review now 30 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: in terms of what the best options are. 31 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: Is it preventative and the reason they asked that in supermarkets, 32 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: we've seen it as preventative, but I mean some of 33 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: the stuff that the police would deal with is a 34 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: lot more elevated than you know, an outgrow robber and 35 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: a supermarket. Is it Will it actually make that much difference? 36 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: Well, I think it will. I think yes, it's been 37 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: quite successful in the supermarkets because people see a camera 38 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: there and they realize their behavior has been captured. And 39 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: it's hard to argue with what's or try and rewrite 40 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: history when it's actually been recorded. I like you, I mean, 41 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: I was to into a young consulate, was assaulted in 42 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: the Auckland CBD, you know, just to cowards punch someone 43 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: that'd come out drunk from the pub and that sort 44 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: of stuff. When it's recorded as compelling evidence, when it's 45 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: put in front of court. 46 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: I guess, so you got a timeline on this other 47 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: than sometime this year or next year. 48 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: That so the Commissioner I think, is indicated they're going 49 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: to take twelve months to work through it. So yeah, 50 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: it'll be it's more likely to be next year. 51 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: While I've got you on this discretion thing and you're 52 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: typing and you're swimming and all of that, have we 53 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: got to the bottom of this? Has this been sorted 54 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: once and for all or not? 55 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: Yes, we have. So the Commissioner has come out clearly 56 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: and stated that there will be no discretion around standards 57 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: in terms of the recruiting process. We fully completely support that. 58 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: Back under the previous coman I was opposition. I raised 59 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: this through Select Committee and I said, I do not 60 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 2: like the fact that you're looking at dropping standards in 61 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: a service and agency like the police, standards are extremely 62 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: important and must be maintained. So I was very happy 63 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 2: to see the Commissioner come out and be unequivocal about that. 64 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Appreciate it. 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