1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: So Pete Higsith was out overnight. Rickins, the ceasefire will hold. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Now we have a chance at real peace and a 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: real deal. The War Department four now four now has 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: done its part. We stand ready in the background to 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: ensure Iran upholds every reasonable term. And as everyone knows, 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: nobody makes a better deal than President Trump. 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: There's got a Malcolm Nance, intelligence foreign policy analyst and 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: former United States Navy senior chief Malcolm nice to have 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: you on the program. What are your thoughts, What are 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: your thoughts? What are your feelings about the chance of 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: this thing's going to hold? 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: I should expect it's going to hold principally because the 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: global economy could not take much more of this. And 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: that's where Donald Trump's real pressures came from. That came 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: from the people who were saying that, you know, the 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: entire world system could have gone into recession. The oil 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: that was coming out of the Gulf was being limited. 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: Natural gas have been cut off twenty percent. You know, 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: it's like doing a you know, one of those vulcan 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: pressure holds on your corot at artery. You know, you 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 3: might be able to hold it for a while, which 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: you can't hold it forever you said, you're going to 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: start killing the system. So I don't I think Trump 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: was trapped. He had to take this deal, and now 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: the worst part is a round comes out of it stronger. 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: Well, we think. And the White House is saying that 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: the ten point plan that everyone's talking about is not 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: the ten point plan that they've signed up to. 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've noticed that they said that after they 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: had already written. Donald Trump had retweeted Minister around she 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: the previous bar Minister's statement which said the basis of 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 3: it was the original fifteen point plan lost. The ten 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: point plan that around it sad set and that's supposed 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: to be the basis of negotiations. The fifteen point plan 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: wasn't any better. So you know, if Trump took this 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: as an off ramp to stop the collapse of the 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: world economy to save money for his friends, you know, 38 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: the Gulf States lost brillions in market capital with these attacks. 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: He's going to have to deal with what's been played 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: now because there's no restarting this war. It will collapse 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 3: the global of global economy if they do it again. 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Which begs the question was it worth doing in the 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: first place. 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 3: No, and they should never have done it in the 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: first place. Look, they have been preparing for this war 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: since nineteen forties, since nineteen seventy nine, forty seven years. 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 3: I fought the Iranians multiple times in the Persian Gulf 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: during the nineteen eighties, and it was very clear back 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: then their geographic choke hold was over the straight Oh Hormons. 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: This was done almost haphazardly. They didn't consult anybody, and 51 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: they didn't listen to the advice of military planners. We 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: are awesome, America at blowing things up. We're apparently really 53 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: awful at meeting our stated objectives. 54 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Malcolm Nance, intelligent foreign policy analysts and former United States 55 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Navy senior chief. Nice to have you on the program. 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 58 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.