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Speaker 1: Murray Old's Ossie corresponding with us now heimas good Appterlone Heather,

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Speaker 1: how's Elbow's meeting in Indonesia going?

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Speaker 2: Looks pretty good from this distance. Anthony albanezy on his

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Speaker 2: way to the Vatican, of course, but he made it

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Speaker 2: very clear as was his intention, and that's what he

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Speaker 2: did in his first term as Prime minister. First visit

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Speaker 2: was to Indonesia. He's exactly the same scenario second time

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Speaker 2: around for the Prime Minister of Australia. He's up there

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Speaker 2: seeing Froboo Subianto, the brand new Indonesian president. And how

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Speaker 2: about this for different diplomacy. Alba pulls in last night

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Speaker 2: in the plane, gets into his hotel, there's a knock

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Speaker 2: on the door as the president, how are you going, Albow?

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you again. So look at the very

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Speaker 2: complex relationship. The new Indonesian president's a military manned Korea

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Speaker 2: military officer. He's looking to develop a relationship with China. Also,

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Speaker 2: of course there's been all this talk about Indonesia and

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Speaker 2: the relationship it has with Russia and Vladimir Putin. So

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Speaker 2: from Australia's point of view, very important customer on Australia's

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Speaker 2: doorstep three hundred and you know, three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: odd million people, the world's largest m.

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Speaker 1: MAZ. You're breaking up, Maus, you're breaking up terribly. So

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Speaker 1: if you is there a do you know if there's

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Speaker 1: a spot where you actually have some clear signal?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: Are you at the golf course?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not on the freeway.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're on a freeway doing one hundred and ten. Okay.

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Speaker 2: I'll speak slowly and they look at an important relection

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Speaker 2: to both sides, and certainly Albeneasi is hoping that he

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Speaker 2: can get off from the right foot with the Indonesian president.

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Speaker 1: When you said you were going to speak slowly, I

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Speaker 1: was just going to say that isn't not how it works.

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Speaker 1: But amazingly it has actually worked. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you know that now, Maus. Okay, so listen, tell me quickly.

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Speaker 1: Wolf's got some clear patch with you about this Aussie

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Speaker 1: who may have died fighting in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Well, the second guy, if this is the case, we

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Speaker 2: think it is the case. The second Australian to die

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Speaker 2: in less than I think three weeks, the youngest, the

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Speaker 2: latest person a Queensland fellow. Caleb List is his name.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to join the Australian Army when he left

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Speaker 2: school for some reason, was turned down, and a couple

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Speaker 2: of three years later he says, I want to join

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Speaker 2: the French Foreign Legion. That didn't work out, so he

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Speaker 2: joined the International Legion that was signing up to fight

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Speaker 2: for Ukraine against Russia. Well, it didn't end well for

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Speaker 2: him to die in an artillery barrage. The other fellow

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Speaker 2: was Nick Parsons, who was working for a charity. Ex

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Speaker 2: Australian soldier. He was working for charity that disarmed land

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Speaker 2: mines and he and another fellow were killed about three

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Speaker 2: weeks ago now in Ukraine as there were clearing land

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Speaker 2: mines for the basic advice in the Australian government to

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Speaker 2: anyone who wants to do not go anywhere near it.

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Speaker 2: The Department of Foreign Affairs said, you're out of your mind.

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Speaker 2: If you want to go there must listen.

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Speaker 1: Are you one of the people who are upset about

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Speaker 1: the idea of taking a veggiemite on toast and then

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Speaker 1: putting the dill and the paprika and the cheese.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't work for me, I say, I like that. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm an old fashioned guy. Give me a nice bit

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Speaker 2: of toast, but lastings of it and veggiemite. I've been

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Speaker 2: known to top a poached egg on top of that,

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Speaker 2: which went going very well. Yeah, a little bit of

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Speaker 2: cheese on top, but you know, please, I mean next

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Speaker 2: thing you can be putting a sardine on there or

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Speaker 2: mashed up American what's wrong with you?

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Speaker 1: Are you? Are you philistine? This sounds absolutely delicious? Have

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Speaker 1: you mask dil is the most underrated herb out there?

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Speaker 1: Don't you think?

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Speaker 2: No? I do you? And a lot of Australians tape

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Speaker 2: this guy too? And abomination, barbaric and international crime go

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Speaker 2: back to America.

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Speaker 1: Just so, just a perfectly rational response from the Australians

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Speaker 1: to thank you. Maus appreciated it as always. Marry Old's

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