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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealand and welcome Men and Tyler Podcast

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Speaker 2: two nine to eight for the second of March. Wow

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Speaker 2: is it and it's a it's a Monday fantastic chat,

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Speaker 2: go deep into the Iran situation, very very complex and

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Speaker 2: we had some great calls on that and some terrible

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Speaker 2: So really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: Yep, talking about some tight burms, tight erms. That was

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Speaker 3: a great chat.

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Speaker 2: And cutting your kids off. No, So it's a very

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Speaker 2: enjoyable show. As always I always find out in these

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Speaker 1: Afternoon Squid go to news Talk said, be very.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. Welcome into Monday day show. Really

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Speaker 3: good to have your company has always hope you had

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Speaker 3: a great weekend whatever you got up to in this

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Speaker 3: lovely little country of ours. Are your mates?

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Speaker 2: Get a tiler? Get everyone. Hey, I just want to

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Speaker 2: have a talk very quickly before we get onto this

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Speaker 2: important topic at hand. Booms, okay, right, big, So in

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Speaker 2: the weekend I got excited by my neighbor's booms. I

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Speaker 2: wasn't coverting as booms or his cattle or his wife

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Speaker 2: or anything, but I was looking over going. God, he's

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Speaker 2: got tidy edges. He's got tidy edges on the other

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Speaker 2: side of the road. So I spent hours and hours

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Speaker 2: on my berms, making them, taking them right back to

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Speaker 2: the actual boom, because you know, you get creep grass,

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Speaker 2: creep onto the pavement, you do, yeah, yeah, And so

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Speaker 2: in the end you're mowing the lawn, but it's creeping

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Speaker 2: so tidy.

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Speaker 2: So I just I just went loose. It nearly killed me. Actually,

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Speaker 2: it was the most. It was the most. It was

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Speaker 2: more physically exerting than running a marathon, just out in

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Speaker 2: the hot suns, cutting my berms right back and making

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Speaker 2: us super tight.

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Speaker 3: So you actually bought a line from a specifically for

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Speaker 3: the boom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not the like the scrub cutter that

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Speaker 2: we used to have back on the farm. That's for sure.

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Speaker 2: The lime trimmer. The amount of the amount of cord

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Speaker 2: I went through, I mean I was getting through about

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Speaker 2: two meters of edge per having to pull the cord

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Speaker 2: out again on the line from it. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: was just I was just thinking, you know, are we

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Speaker 2: mow them, but unless you've got tight edges, are you

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Speaker 2: a disgrace to your neighborhood?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's even the points. Yeah, it's a big question.

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Speaker 2: You've got to have tight, tight edges. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: think I think we need to start shaming neighbors that

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Speaker 3: Reinvigorating boom pride. What happened to Burm Bright?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to find I might start a

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Speaker 2: competition and it would be New Zealand's tightest boom. It's

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Speaker 2: not the most spectacular, it's not what you're growing on there,

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Speaker 2: but it's just how tight the edges are, how smooth

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Speaker 3: That's a good distinction. Looking forward to that competition. Nine

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Speaker 3: I love to hear from you but right, let's get

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Speaker 3: whatever a chat about when is the right time to

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Speaker 3: cut the cord financially and teach your children how to

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Speaker 3: manage money. So research by global fintech Revolute found forty

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Speaker 3: two percent percent of ki we parents believe children should

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Speaker 3: Almost a third of pearentcy children should be financially independent

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Speaker 3: by sixteen to nineteen years of age. Well a third

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Speaker 3: that they've got to sort themselves out by sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So what is that? Contributing as much as

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Speaker 2: So when do you cut kids off. It's probably good

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Speaker 3: to get into the biggest story in the world right now.

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Speaker 3: As we know, on Saturday, Israel and the US launched

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Speaker 3: It has been dubbed epic Fury. The a U S

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Speaker 3: condemned Iran's indiscriminate attacks. But he was questioned on Mike

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Speaker 3: Hoskin around the legality and here's a little bit of

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Speaker 6: Ultimately, that's up to the Americans and the Israelis to assert.

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Speaker 6: I noticed in the UN Security Council they invoked Article

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Speaker 6: fifty one is the basis for the attacks that they've launched.

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Speaker 6: But let's be under no illusion. This was not a

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Speaker 6: of for decades under successive governments. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 6: And we've had years of diplomacy to try and manage

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Speaker 6: mourning the loss of this leader.

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Speaker 2: So what do you say to Helen Clark, why the stability?

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Speaker 6: Well she I think she called my post disgraceful. I'd say,

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Speaker 6: what is disgraceful is a regime that actually kills its

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Speaker 3: Way that it has.

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Speaker 6: And as I said it, I don't think you know,

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Speaker 3: So he pushed back there. Obviously, Helen Clark came out

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, so, whether you're condemning these strikes or

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Speaker 2: the idea of regime change doesn't always go the way

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Speaker 2: you want to what you expect. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 2: do the people in Iran that have been set upon

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Speaker 2: taking away their ability to lead their lives, to isolating

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Speaker 2: But just cutting the head off forty eight at this

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Speaker 3: That's the ultimate outcome. Absolutely it is. Yeah, And you.

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Speaker 2: Know, people say there's nothing worse than war, but there

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Speaker 3: So tell us what you think. Hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: Be it is seventeen past one. So, as we know,

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Speaker 3: What we do know is that the Supreme Leader, Aetola

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Speaker 3: by doctor Farau Amen, founder of Iranian Women in New

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. Doctor, I mean very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 2: Good Affinitly, what are you hearing about the situation on

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Speaker 7: So the situation, as we all know, is evolving so rapidly,

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Speaker 7: so it's really hard to even you know, keep record

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Speaker 7: So I think so far the situation is going on

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Speaker 7: the way that Iranians have expected that maximum pressure and

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Speaker 2: When we last talked to you, you were talking about

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Speaker 2: how Trump said he would act to help the people

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Speaker 2: seemed like he'd abandon you. So now he's acted. Are

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 7: I think you know. It was it was late kind,

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Speaker 7: but it's better than never. So Iranians expected this to

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Speaker 7: happen before we lose forty thousand of our people, but

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Speaker 7: it's still, you know, happening.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 7: We know that it's going to prevent the regime from

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Speaker 2: So you know, as we're saying before, around forty eight

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Speaker 7: No, definitely. We know that Iran is a vast country

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Speaker 3: Who came to the crown prince in a moment, doctor,

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Speaker 7: So I think so. So they have always been using,

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Speaker 2: We took to doctor Frahman, founder of the Iranian Woman

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Speaker 7: So many people from within the IRGC forces and other

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Speaker 2: Is there a way out for the regime because they've

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Speaker 2: Now. There's lots of different factions and around as I

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Speaker 7: Actually, I think what is interesting and important about Iran

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Speaker 2: What would you like to say the New Zealand as

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Speaker 7: Zealand government the only thing they can do now is

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Speaker 7: the US or UK or Australia, so New Zealand might

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Speaker 3: Doctor Amine, thank you so much as always for your

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Speaker 7: Sure, my pleasure.

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Speaker 3: That is doctor Faraux, a main founder of the Iranian

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Speaker 3: Woman in New Zealand Council. So tell us what you think,

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Speaker 3: oh one hundred eighty eighteen eighty what is the best

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: Diprime ministers with US Iran is legal.

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Speaker 6: Well, ultimately that's up to the Americans and the Israelis

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Speaker 1: But let's be under no illusion.

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Speaker 6: This was not a regime that New Zealand has supported

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's a regime that's brutally repressing its own people,

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Speaker 10: So you know, we won't be mourning the.

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Speaker 2: Loss of this leader. Do you endorse the attacks?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 6: Do I understand why they're doing it, And ultimately it's

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Speaker 3: ZB twenty nine past one. So what is the best

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Speaker 9: Well, war is a terrible thing, no one wants it.

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Speaker 9: So I support what they've done simply because the chap

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Speaker 9: not come cheap. There's always a price to pay, and

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Speaker 9: America have just implemented that that price that freedom deserves

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Speaker 2: Do you think that trumps motivations were to help the

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Speaker 9: You think yeah, definitely, I totally believe that because Israel

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, anyone with a heart would support

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Speaker 9: Well, well you can't judge them on speculation. That's what

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Speaker 3: Good on you, Jack, Thank you very much for your call.

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Speaker 3: I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. Do you agree

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Speaker 3: we can all agree some sort of democratic you know,

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Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Raelians, we are talking about the

452
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Speaker 3: current conflict within Iran. On the weekend, of course, as

453
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Speaker 3: we know, Israel and U and the US launched an

454
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Speaker 3: all out missile attack in an operation dubbed Epic Fury,

455
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Speaker 3: and as it stands, US President Donald Trump believes the

456
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Speaker 3: war with Iran will last around four weeks, but he

457
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Speaker 3: says I've already taken out a large tract of Iranian

458
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Speaker 3: military assets. But the question we've got for you is

459
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Speaker 3: what is the best outcome in this situation for that

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Speaker 3: area of eight hundred and eighty ten eighty And if

461
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Speaker 3: you're an Iranian living in New Zealand, love to hear

462
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Speaker 3: your thoughts on this as well. Reza, welcome to the show.

463
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Speaker 8: Thanks for having met.

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Speaker 2: Are you so you're in Iranian living in New Zealand?

465
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Speaker 2: How how are you feeling about what's happened across the weekend.

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 8: I can't explain or can vary my feeling. It's beyond explanation.

468
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Speaker 8: But all I can say is the era of fear

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Speaker 8: ended on twenty eighth of February for all Iranian people.

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Speaker 2: Do you say the era of fear ended?

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Speaker 8: Yes, the era of fear. I would like to take

472
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Speaker 8: this opportunity and just express my gratitude and happiness for

473
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Speaker 8: my pillow kiwis here in New Zealand with Uranian community

474
00:24:37,733 --> 00:24:42,613
Speaker 8: being bombarded with solidarity messages, text messages saying hey, are

475
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Speaker 8: you okay? How about your family? You know you are

476
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Speaker 8: in our thoughts, So it's incredible to have this solidarity.

477
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Speaker 8: You know, some Kiv community. I just wanted to acknowledge

478
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Speaker 8: it and thank you. It reminds me every day what

479
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Speaker 8: my family is fighting in back home. So just want technology.

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Speaker 2: You say that the era of fear has ended, So

481
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Speaker 2: are you confident about what comes next and Iran?

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Speaker 8: Oh, look yes, so there is a transition period and

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Speaker 8: it will be led by Crown Prince Raza. They've got

484
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Speaker 8: the Prosperity Project for Iran. It will be for six

485
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Speaker 8: months to prevent any potential vacuum power, vacuum. And what

486
00:25:34,693 --> 00:25:40,293
Speaker 8: will happen is the goal is for all the necessary

487
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Speaker 8: services like water, electricity will be keep on running, so

488
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Speaker 8: essential that services will be on and then the people

489
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Speaker 8: can determine their own parties in a free election. Then

490
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Speaker 8: they can determine their secular democratic future.

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Speaker 3: M And for you, Resa, does that democratic future involve

492
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Speaker 3: the Crown princes? Is that for summer Iranians the bestops

493
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Speaker 3: and here provided that he and his supporters of the

494
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Speaker 3: resources to you know, to try and consolidate some stability.

495
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Speaker 8: Yes, of course. So it's not about me or Iranian

496
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Speaker 8: people outside the countries asking. It's about what Iranian people

497
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Speaker 8: on the streets chanted his name. More than sixty thousand

498
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Speaker 8: so say six thousand people you know, have been killed,

499
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Speaker 8: majority of them chanting his name, and you could not

500
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Speaker 8: hear any other name from Iranian streets. So that's number one.

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Speaker 8: And then number two is it is not about monarchy

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Speaker 8: or republic. He's just leading the transitions so that we

503
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Speaker 8: won't have the power vacuum. And then once everything is stabilized,

504
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Speaker 8: then he might not take any in political position. It

505
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Speaker 8: depends on people opinions. People might say, okay, if we

506
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Speaker 8: want to have a republic system and then he will

507
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Speaker 8: have his own party. Stage goal is just for transitions.

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Speaker 2: Whereabouts is the crown prince?

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Speaker 3: Now?

510
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Speaker 2: Where is he situated?

511
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Speaker 8: Resil Oh, we don't know the exactity because of security reason,

512
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Speaker 8: but he's based in the USA now.

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Speaker 2: Right, so you can can you imagine a situation or

514
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Speaker 2: basically what situation would have to be on the ground

515
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Speaker 2: for him to fly in and make a return. What

516
00:27:38,613 --> 00:27:40,893
Speaker 2: would have to change from now for that to happen.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So yes, still the Islamic regime leader have been

518
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Speaker 8: you know, taken out, but still there are some Irgc

519
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Speaker 8: military bases and military personnels still access and that is

520
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Speaker 8: a search for Iranian people. I guess the first thing

521
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Speaker 8: to achieve, you know, Crown Prince result you back to

522
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Speaker 8: Iran is recognition by international countries, even New Zealand. You know,

523
00:28:16,293 --> 00:28:19,973
Speaker 8: they can have a conversation and rather than being you know,

524
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Speaker 8: away from Iran, Iran can be a partner with New Zealand,

525
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Speaker 8: with five Bos countries, and through partnership we can have

526
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Speaker 8: a piece in the Middle East and then in the

527
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Speaker 8: world as well. So I would say recognition by international

528
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Speaker 8: parties and communities. And then Uranian people are waiting and

529
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Speaker 8: we can't see what will happen if it takes longer

530
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Speaker 8: than I would say, maybe a couple of weeks or months.

531
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Speaker 8: So it's just a matter of time. He will back

532
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Speaker 8: to the country very soon.

533
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Speaker 2: So what do you want to see from America going forward?

534
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Speaker 2: Do you want to see boots on the ground or

535
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Speaker 2: do you think it's enough to just these airstrikes trying

536
00:29:03,933 --> 00:29:05,973
Speaker 2: to you know, knock the head off the regime.

537
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so the boots under round is just you know,

538
00:29:09,453 --> 00:29:12,373
Speaker 8: for war. This is not about the war. It's about

539
00:29:12,613 --> 00:29:17,413
Speaker 8: this army the killing machines, which mostly it's already been

540
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Speaker 8: achieved by you know, stopping the killing machines, and it

541
00:29:21,213 --> 00:29:25,413
Speaker 8: is very smart targeted operations. So, but what do you

542
00:29:25,493 --> 00:29:30,693
Speaker 8: want from America is just acknowledging what Usinian people are

543
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Speaker 8: chanting for and asking, which is our transition leader, Crown

544
00:29:37,773 --> 00:29:38,453
Speaker 8: trenches are.

545
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Speaker 3: Is it with the boots on the ground question. I

546
00:29:42,933 --> 00:29:46,493
Speaker 3: hear what you're saying, But isn't it inevitable that whatever

547
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Speaker 3: comes after the four weeks that Donald Trump has been

548
00:29:48,733 --> 00:29:53,333
Speaker 3: talking about, you will need military assistance in the Crown

549
00:29:53,373 --> 00:29:57,733
Speaker 3: Prince will need that military assistance to try and inform

550
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Speaker 3: that initial stability because otherwise it you know, and creet

551
00:30:01,693 --> 00:30:03,053
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong here, but it feels like it

552
00:30:03,093 --> 00:30:06,693
Speaker 3: could be chaotic and messy and and a lot more

553
00:30:06,773 --> 00:30:12,053
Speaker 3: deaths if there isn't back up support from international partners.

554
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, you're right, that is that is a valid point.

555
00:30:16,373 --> 00:30:20,253
Speaker 8: But the thing is, it's been two years now Crown

556
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Speaker 8: Princes long term initiatives by asking the existing military personnels

557
00:30:28,653 --> 00:30:33,613
Speaker 8: to join to that initiative and just you know, being

558
00:30:33,653 --> 00:30:38,573
Speaker 8: aside from the current regime, and so far fifty thousand

559
00:30:38,773 --> 00:30:43,573
Speaker 8: military personnels registered in that initiative. So I would say

560
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Speaker 8: the majority of the alternative military system is already in place.

561
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Speaker 8: It just needs to be acknowledged and recognized by by

562
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Speaker 8: international countries.

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Speaker 2: So will the because what can happen in these situations

564
00:31:02,413 --> 00:31:06,853
Speaker 2: is it becomes retribution after retribution after retribution. So can

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Speaker 2: the the people of around forgive the members of the

566
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Speaker 2: army and police and members that have people that have

567
00:31:17,533 --> 00:31:21,813
Speaker 2: worked with the regime and move forward or can you

568
00:31:21,893 --> 00:31:23,693
Speaker 2: say a period of bloodly thing?

569
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Speaker 8: So what happened was five or six hours ago. Again,

570
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Speaker 8: because I'm referring to crown princes of it's our reference.

571
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Speaker 8: You weren't gonna go ahead of him. What he said

572
00:31:38,293 --> 00:31:40,853
Speaker 8: is he said, hey, this is a revolution. I know

573
00:31:40,933 --> 00:31:46,213
Speaker 8: your feelings, but we want to forgive those military personnel

574
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Speaker 8: and I are just even I are just seen members.

575
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Speaker 8: If they put their guns on the ground and if

576
00:31:51,453 --> 00:31:54,573
Speaker 8: they join to people, there will not be any harm

577
00:31:54,693 --> 00:31:57,733
Speaker 8: to themselves and to their families. We will have a peace,

578
00:31:58,133 --> 00:32:01,293
Speaker 8: we will have a prosperity project, and we will think

579
00:32:01,373 --> 00:32:04,373
Speaker 8: for future. This is what he said. And because we

580
00:32:04,493 --> 00:32:07,733
Speaker 8: believe him and because we follow him, Iranian pupils, that

581
00:32:07,933 --> 00:32:10,253
Speaker 8: is the sea situation. It's not going to be like

582
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Speaker 8: forty seven years ago. And you might have seen in

583
00:32:13,013 --> 00:32:17,253
Speaker 8: some other Middle Eastern countries, but in Iran, that is

584
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Speaker 8: not the.

585
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Speaker 3: Case, Reza, thank you very much for giving us a call.

586
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Speaker 3: Always really nice to chat with you. You have a

587
00:32:22,693 --> 00:32:24,333
Speaker 3: good afternoon and we'll catch up again soon.

588
00:32:25,053 --> 00:32:26,533
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me and our.

589
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Speaker 2: Thoughts with your family that are on the ground in Iran. Mate,

590
00:32:29,373 --> 00:32:32,893
Speaker 2: so all the best, buddy.

591
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I wait one hundred eighty ten eighty,

592
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Speaker 3: so share your thoughts. What is the best outcome when

593
00:32:36,893 --> 00:32:39,533
Speaker 3: it comes to the Iranian conflict? I won one hundred

594
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Speaker 3: eighty teen eighty. Is that number? It's fourteen to.

595
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Speaker 1: Two Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons taking your calls

596
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Speaker 1: on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty with Skoda. Can

597
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Speaker 1: you crack the code please? Goda codes every day news dogs.

598
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Speaker 3: They'd be welve two two Mike, what's your thoughts?

599
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Speaker 4: Okay, my thoughts. It's been a while since I've been

600
00:32:59,853 --> 00:33:05,373
Speaker 4: an Iran loading oil. The most important thing is the

601
00:33:05,413 --> 00:33:11,293
Speaker 4: Americans have got to reassure that the passage through the

602
00:33:11,693 --> 00:33:17,173
Speaker 4: straits of these is safe. They don't do that, there's

603
00:33:17,213 --> 00:33:20,813
Speaker 4: going to be troubled with China. Japan needs a super

604
00:33:20,853 --> 00:33:25,293
Speaker 4: tanker arriving every hour to keep their economy going and

605
00:33:25,413 --> 00:33:30,173
Speaker 4: all our oil, all our petrum and diesel, etc. Comes

606
00:33:30,213 --> 00:33:36,173
Speaker 4: from Singapore, and Singapore refines all oil from the Gulf.

607
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Speaker 3: I think you're right that is the big concern, isn't it.

608
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Speaker 3: But do you think that's probably one of their priorities

609
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Speaker 3: is to maintain that the Iran regime doesn't try to

610
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Speaker 3: shut that down by any you know, any means necessary

611
00:33:47,733 --> 00:33:49,133
Speaker 3: because it is important to the world.

612
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Speaker 13: Yeah.

613
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Speaker 10: Well, the.

614
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Speaker 4: Spot charter rates for tankers has gone up to ten

615
00:33:57,213 --> 00:34:04,533
Speaker 4: million from various parts of the world, so there's some

616
00:34:04,693 --> 00:34:09,013
Speaker 4: very nervous people in the shipping industry. And of course

617
00:34:09,013 --> 00:34:12,693
Speaker 4: you've got all the ships bottled up inside the Persian

618
00:34:12,773 --> 00:34:17,573
Speaker 4: Gulfs because it's a coulder set there's only one way

619
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Speaker 4: out of it.

620
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Speaker 2: So do you think if this turns out to be

621
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Speaker 2: a good thing for the people of Iraq, then a

622
00:34:25,853 --> 00:34:29,853
Speaker 2: little bit of extra costs on will would be worth

623
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Speaker 2: the price?

624
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Speaker 4: Mike, I think you're talking about people who are Iran.

625
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Speaker 3: I think, oh, sorry, terrible mistake.

626
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Speaker 2: Sorry mate Iran. I think you know, Mike, thanks so

627
00:34:43,253 --> 00:34:45,453
Speaker 2: much for putting that out, because that was a terrible mistake.

628
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

629
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So is that a fair point, Mike, that if

630
00:34:51,653 --> 00:34:54,053
Speaker 3: the price of our gas goes up a little bit,

631
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Speaker 3: that's the price to pay for you know, hopefully the

632
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Speaker 3: people of Iran having democracy again.

633
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a difficult one because they didn't have much

634
00:35:05,573 --> 00:35:08,813
Speaker 4: of a democracy when the show was in charge Ajieva,

635
00:35:10,773 --> 00:35:16,693
Speaker 4: so hopefully they'll do better this time round. And the

636
00:35:16,773 --> 00:35:19,733
Speaker 4: price of oil, well, it makes a huge difference to

637
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Speaker 4: Iran getting the oil out because it's so cheap for

638
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Speaker 4: them to produce. I think ten dollars a barrel as

639
00:35:28,013 --> 00:35:32,613
Speaker 4: opposed to the US forty and fifty dollars a barrel

640
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Speaker 4: to produce.

641
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Speaker 3: It is a big concern. Thank you so much for

642
00:35:35,613 --> 00:35:38,493
Speaker 3: your call Mike here, Thank you very much. Right, we're

643
00:35:38,493 --> 00:35:40,373
Speaker 3: going to get to a couple of texts very shortly.

644
00:35:40,733 --> 00:35:42,493
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

645
00:35:42,573 --> 00:35:43,013
Speaker 3: call as well.

646
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Speaker 2: Well, you want a situation where the Iranian people get

647
00:35:46,653 --> 00:35:48,733
Speaker 2: to share in some of the wealth, love that oil?

648
00:35:48,853 --> 00:35:51,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, it is nine minutes to.

649
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Speaker 1: Two, Matdeath Tyler Adams taking your calls on. Oh, eight

650
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler

651
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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons news talks.

652
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Speaker 10: They'd be.

653
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Speaker 3: It is six to two. Good text here I agree

654
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Speaker 3: with the fact the Iranian regime has done a lot

655
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Speaker 3: of harm, but none of that is up for debate.

656
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Speaker 3: But that still doesn't excuse the fact that Trump bombed

657
00:36:11,493 --> 00:36:13,933
Speaker 3: a country because he felt like it. That sets a

658
00:36:14,013 --> 00:36:19,453
Speaker 3: terrifying precedent that a powerful leader can unilattery, decide to

659
00:36:19,533 --> 00:36:21,293
Speaker 3: use force and the will just has to watch. And

660
00:36:21,333 --> 00:36:24,373
Speaker 3: it's also thrown a harsh spotlight on how the powerless

661
00:36:24,853 --> 00:36:28,013
Speaker 3: UN can be when it actually matters. Lots of statements,

662
00:36:28,133 --> 00:36:29,933
Speaker 3: very little ability to stop it.

663
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no doubt that the UN comes across

664
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Speaker 2: as completely useless. But how does international law even work?

665
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Speaker 5: Right?

666
00:36:37,533 --> 00:36:40,013
Speaker 2: I mean, how serious is the UN about international law?

667
00:36:40,053 --> 00:36:41,373
Speaker 2: With the Security Council, there's.

668
00:36:41,213 --> 00:36:42,053
Speaker 3: A lot of hypocrisy.

669
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Speaker 2: And also in national law. What does international law if

670
00:36:45,053 --> 00:36:48,813
Speaker 2: it's not enforceable. There's no global police, there's no automatic enforcement,

671
00:36:48,813 --> 00:36:53,893
Speaker 2: there's no supreme executive authority, So how is international law

672
00:36:53,933 --> 00:36:54,693
Speaker 2: even enforced?

673
00:36:54,813 --> 00:36:56,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I.

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Speaker 2: Know, the UN is looking more and more irrelevant, isn't it.

675
00:37:01,813 --> 00:37:02,013
Speaker 9: It is?

676
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Speaker 2: And which could be concerning because we've had some you know,

677
00:37:07,853 --> 00:37:10,333
Speaker 2: we haven't had any world war since World War Two,

678
00:37:10,893 --> 00:37:14,733
Speaker 2: and that could partly be because of the un yea. Anyway,

679
00:37:14,933 --> 00:37:17,453
Speaker 2: I think all saying people are disgusted by the oppressive

680
00:37:17,973 --> 00:37:21,253
Speaker 2: regime in Iran, cutting off, of pressing and systematically executing

681
00:37:21,253 --> 00:37:25,333
Speaker 2: one of the most productive and vibrant civilizations in the

682
00:37:25,373 --> 00:37:28,093
Speaker 2: history of the world. And these airstrikes have definitely struck

683
00:37:28,133 --> 00:37:31,933
Speaker 2: a major blow to that horrific regime. Whatever the motives

684
00:37:31,973 --> 00:37:33,973
Speaker 2: of Trump in America, the Ranian people are celebrating on

685
00:37:33,973 --> 00:37:36,013
Speaker 2: the streets. It's an odd thing when a country is

686
00:37:36,053 --> 00:37:38,413
Speaker 2: in such a bad state that the people call for

687
00:37:38,493 --> 00:37:41,573
Speaker 2: their own country to be attacked, But anyone who has

688
00:37:41,613 --> 00:37:44,413
Speaker 2: any knowledge of the era knows regime change can go

689
00:37:44,693 --> 00:37:47,813
Speaker 2: very badly wrong. So while we are celebrating damage to

690
00:37:47,853 --> 00:37:50,573
Speaker 2: that evil regime, let's hope what comes next is better

691
00:37:50,613 --> 00:37:53,853
Speaker 2: and not worse for those long suffering people of Iran.

692
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we will of course bring you up to

693
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Speaker 3: date if there's any developments in that story as the

694
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Speaker 3: afternoon progresses. Thank you to everyone who called and text

695
00:38:02,133 --> 00:38:05,172
Speaker 3: over the last hour. Coming up after two o'clock. When

696
00:38:05,293 --> 00:38:08,093
Speaker 3: is the right time to cut the cord financially when

697
00:38:08,093 --> 00:38:10,973
Speaker 3: it come to your children love to get your thoughts,

698
00:38:11,013 --> 00:38:12,813
Speaker 3: I wait, undred and eighty ten eighty is that number

699
00:38:12,853 --> 00:38:14,773
Speaker 3: to call nine two nine two the decks but a

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Speaker 3: split ausplit ends out to the.

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Speaker 1: News talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and

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Speaker 1: Tyler Adams Afternoon SWI Scota News Talks, EDB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks EDB. Good afternoon to you. It is seven

704
00:38:43,413 --> 00:38:48,013
Speaker 3: pass two. Great to have your company on this Monday afternoon.

705
00:38:48,733 --> 00:38:50,173
Speaker 3: So let's get into this one. This is going to

706
00:38:50,213 --> 00:38:52,613
Speaker 3: be a fascinating chat. When is the right time to

707
00:38:52,653 --> 00:38:55,493
Speaker 3: cut the cord financially and teach your children how to

708
00:38:55,813 --> 00:38:59,373
Speaker 3: manage money? So this is research by Global Fintech Revolutes.

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00:38:59,413 --> 00:39:02,173
Speaker 3: They found forty two percent of Kiwi parents believe children

710
00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:05,652
Speaker 3: should be independent financially by the ages of twenty to

711
00:39:05,733 --> 00:39:08,813
Speaker 3: twenty five. A third, thirty three percent in a parents

712
00:39:08,813 --> 00:39:11,653
Speaker 3: said children should be financially independent by the age of

713
00:39:11,693 --> 00:39:13,212
Speaker 3: sixteen to nineteen years.

714
00:39:13,253 --> 00:39:14,253
Speaker 2: Now, what was the number?

715
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:16,853
Speaker 3: So the first one was forty two percent of Kiwi

716
00:39:16,893 --> 00:39:20,173
Speaker 3: parents believe they should be financially independent by twenty to

717
00:39:20,213 --> 00:39:23,533
Speaker 3: twenty five. Oh yeah, yep. And then a third said

718
00:39:23,573 --> 00:39:28,053
Speaker 3: financially independent by sixteen to nineteen. Yeah.

719
00:39:28,173 --> 00:39:33,373
Speaker 2: Well are you It's interesting, isn't it? Because are you ever?

720
00:39:33,933 --> 00:39:36,573
Speaker 2: It's like you know when you have a child that

721
00:39:36,653 --> 00:39:39,493
Speaker 2: people always say to you graduations, that's a lifetime of

722
00:39:39,533 --> 00:39:43,692
Speaker 2: worry that you've earned yourself. Now you never really stop worrying. So,

723
00:39:44,293 --> 00:39:46,333
Speaker 2: and what does it mean to be financially independent? Paying

724
00:39:46,373 --> 00:39:50,573
Speaker 2: for absolutely everything? So you pay your way, so you're

725
00:39:51,093 --> 00:39:54,413
Speaker 2: from sixteen years old? Has anyone out there doing that

726
00:39:54,413 --> 00:39:56,212
Speaker 2: at all? Over one hundred and eighty ten eighty where

727
00:39:56,213 --> 00:39:59,973
Speaker 2: their kid at sixteen year old pays there, covers their

728
00:39:59,973 --> 00:40:04,853
Speaker 2: food in the house, their contribution to the mortgage or

729
00:40:04,853 --> 00:40:09,653
Speaker 2: rent through board. Why is there school uniforms, clothes?

730
00:40:09,933 --> 00:40:10,172
Speaker 3: Yeah?

731
00:40:10,213 --> 00:40:11,493
Speaker 2: Everything is that that?

732
00:40:11,613 --> 00:40:14,733
Speaker 3: I mean, that's no one, surely not. There's not feasible

733
00:40:14,773 --> 00:40:16,652
Speaker 3: at age sixteen, even if you've got a full time

734
00:40:16,693 --> 00:40:19,773
Speaker 3: gig back in the old days. Sure, And you know

735
00:40:19,933 --> 00:40:23,693
Speaker 3: some some families, you know, you see those families that

736
00:40:23,773 --> 00:40:27,253
Speaker 3: will run a business and they'll have their kids working

737
00:40:27,853 --> 00:40:30,613
Speaker 3: in let's say it's a restaurant or a fish and

738
00:40:30,653 --> 00:40:32,493
Speaker 3: chip shop. I'm thinking about a family that I knew

739
00:40:32,493 --> 00:40:34,772
Speaker 3: growing up that worked at the counter in the fish

740
00:40:34,773 --> 00:40:37,813
Speaker 3: and chip shop, so had to work long hours and

741
00:40:37,853 --> 00:40:41,413
Speaker 3: we're doing their homework on the counter. Yes, So I

742
00:40:41,453 --> 00:40:43,453
Speaker 3: guess there might be people that are running it like that,

743
00:40:44,533 --> 00:40:46,893
Speaker 3: and so so you contribute to the family business.

744
00:40:46,693 --> 00:40:48,493
Speaker 2: With your hours of work, that would be that would

745
00:40:48,493 --> 00:40:52,613
Speaker 2: be Would that be considered financially independent? N yeah, employed

746
00:40:52,613 --> 00:40:54,653
Speaker 2: by your family, yeah, not quite a lot paid.

747
00:40:54,813 --> 00:40:57,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean what does because you raise a

748
00:40:57,853 --> 00:41:01,253
Speaker 3: good point there, what does financially independent really mean? Does

749
00:41:01,293 --> 00:41:04,813
Speaker 3: that mean? Because there's still be elements in times in

750
00:41:04,853 --> 00:41:07,493
Speaker 3: a kid's life, surely even in their late twenties, where

751
00:41:07,493 --> 00:41:09,653
Speaker 3: you might have to bail them that they get themselves

752
00:41:09,653 --> 00:41:12,652
Speaker 3: into the stook for whatever reason. And you, as a parent,

753
00:41:12,733 --> 00:41:15,413
Speaker 3: what other option have you got than to say you've

754
00:41:15,413 --> 00:41:17,773
Speaker 3: got into a lot of debts or something has happened

755
00:41:17,773 --> 00:41:20,293
Speaker 3: to you financially and as pearents, we're still going to

756
00:41:20,333 --> 00:41:23,533
Speaker 3: help you out here, but the day to day paying

757
00:41:23,533 --> 00:41:25,933
Speaker 3: for things. I think this is just my experience as

758
00:41:25,933 --> 00:41:28,772
Speaker 3: a kid that stopped at about the age of twenty five,

759
00:41:29,333 --> 00:41:30,813
Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty five.

760
00:41:30,813 --> 00:41:33,653
Speaker 2: Geez, that's late, so you because.

761
00:41:33,453 --> 00:41:35,333
Speaker 3: Mum was still bailing me out by that stage, and

762
00:41:35,373 --> 00:41:39,493
Speaker 3: if I'd got myself into financial trouble, it was still Mum,

763
00:41:39,853 --> 00:41:42,653
Speaker 3: I'm in trouble here. I know this sucks. It's embarrassing

764
00:41:42,653 --> 00:41:44,373
Speaker 3: for me, but can you help me out? And she

765
00:41:44,493 --> 00:41:48,773
Speaker 3: chucked me five hundred bucks and say never again. But

766
00:41:48,813 --> 00:41:50,973
Speaker 3: at that point of my life, I thought, Okay, I

767
00:41:51,053 --> 00:41:55,212
Speaker 3: cannot be a drain on mum anymore, and I've got

768
00:41:55,253 --> 00:41:58,013
Speaker 3: to sort my beep out. And I did. I did

769
00:41:58,053 --> 00:42:01,213
Speaker 3: sort my beep out. And the last time I actually

770
00:42:01,253 --> 00:42:04,212
Speaker 3: got any money off mum was about then twenty five,

771
00:42:04,293 --> 00:42:05,093
Speaker 3: fifteen years ago.

772
00:42:05,973 --> 00:42:08,893
Speaker 2: My ten year old gives me eight dollar per week

773
00:42:08,933 --> 00:42:12,253
Speaker 2: for rent and food, et cetera. We use one square

774
00:42:12,293 --> 00:42:15,413
Speaker 2: to the chores and it helps her save Wow. So

775
00:42:15,453 --> 00:42:17,013
Speaker 2: this person's charging their ten year old?

776
00:42:17,893 --> 00:42:18,053
Speaker 1: Is that?

777
00:42:18,613 --> 00:42:18,853
Speaker 11: Yeah?

778
00:42:19,453 --> 00:42:21,893
Speaker 3: Is that good education? At ten years old? That you

779
00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:23,893
Speaker 3: mow the lawns? You get twenty bucks, but I'm going

780
00:42:23,973 --> 00:42:25,613
Speaker 3: to keep ten of it for your rent.

781
00:42:25,853 --> 00:42:29,213
Speaker 2: Okay, So I reckon once you leave home, right So,

782
00:42:29,453 --> 00:42:33,693
Speaker 2: once you leave no bit. Maybe once you leave education.

783
00:42:34,573 --> 00:42:37,413
Speaker 2: Cut your kids off once they leave education. I'm just

784
00:42:37,453 --> 00:42:38,933
Speaker 2: on the cusp of this right now.

785
00:42:39,013 --> 00:42:39,212
Speaker 9: Yeah.

786
00:42:39,573 --> 00:42:42,893
Speaker 2: So I've got a son at university, so I can't

787
00:42:42,893 --> 00:42:45,013
Speaker 2: imagine a situation where I didn't help him out at

788
00:42:45,013 --> 00:42:48,573
Speaker 2: this point. But once he's got a full time job, yeah, Yeah,

789
00:42:48,853 --> 00:42:50,893
Speaker 2: once you leave education, you've got a full time job,

790
00:42:50,973 --> 00:42:53,973
Speaker 2: then you should be cut off. And if they come

791
00:42:53,973 --> 00:42:55,813
Speaker 2: to you to help buy a house or whatever, that's

792
00:42:55,813 --> 00:42:59,453
Speaker 2: a different issue, right. Yeah, But surely once you've got

793
00:42:59,453 --> 00:43:01,333
Speaker 2: a full time job, you can't be helping them out anymore,

794
00:43:01,333 --> 00:43:03,133
Speaker 2: can you? I'm hoping not to be.

795
00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:05,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten and eighty.

796
00:43:05,293 --> 00:43:07,853
Speaker 3: Share your thoughts. What do you do in your household?

797
00:43:07,853 --> 00:43:11,613
Speaker 3: What aid should your child be financially independent? And at

798
00:43:11,613 --> 00:43:14,093
Speaker 3: what age should they stand on their own Merits nineteen

799
00:43:14,173 --> 00:43:17,013
Speaker 3: ninety two is the text as well. Keen to hear

800
00:43:17,053 --> 00:43:17,653
Speaker 3: your story.

801
00:43:17,933 --> 00:43:20,493
Speaker 2: My kid is about to turn fifteen and he's already

802
00:43:20,493 --> 00:43:23,373
Speaker 2: been weaned off the tit. Don't you say teat to? Normally?

803
00:43:25,013 --> 00:43:29,333
Speaker 2: Maybe I should have said tea my kid is fifteen,

804
00:43:29,453 --> 00:43:31,573
Speaker 2: is just turned fifteen, and he's already been weaned off

805
00:43:31,573 --> 00:43:34,893
Speaker 2: the teat Got something to learn, Dave. I'm assuming that's

806
00:43:34,893 --> 00:43:36,373
Speaker 2: a metaphorical teat.

807
00:43:36,453 --> 00:43:39,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just sure it is. Yeah, Oh, eight hundred

808
00:43:39,173 --> 00:43:42,093
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty Share your story. At what age should

809
00:43:42,133 --> 00:43:46,933
Speaker 3: your child stand on their own two feet financially? Love

810
00:43:47,013 --> 00:43:49,613
Speaker 3: to hear your story. It is twelve pas two back

811
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Speaker 3: very shortly here on Newstalk's EDB.

812
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Speaker 1: W your home of afternoon Talk Mad Heathen Tyler Adams

813
00:43:56,453 --> 00:44:00,453
Speaker 1: Afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks EDB.

814
00:44:02,533 --> 00:44:06,692
Speaker 3: News Talks B. It is fourteen past two, so letting

815
00:44:06,773 --> 00:44:09,692
Speaker 3: go financially? When should your kids stand on their own

816
00:44:09,773 --> 00:44:13,213
Speaker 3: two feet when it comes to money? Survey out seems

817
00:44:13,213 --> 00:44:15,893
Speaker 3: to indicate most Kiwi parents believe around the ages of

818
00:44:15,893 --> 00:44:18,292
Speaker 3: twenty to twenty five, but there's a third who reckon

819
00:44:18,333 --> 00:44:21,173
Speaker 3: they should be financially independent by sixteen to nineteen.

820
00:44:21,293 --> 00:44:23,253
Speaker 2: So I've been thinking about it, and I think it's

821
00:44:23,253 --> 00:44:26,373
Speaker 2: when they get their first full time employment or are

822
00:44:26,373 --> 00:44:28,573
Speaker 2: in a position to get full time employment, because they

823
00:44:28,573 --> 00:44:30,813
Speaker 2: can't just sit around not getting a job. So you

824
00:44:30,813 --> 00:44:33,053
Speaker 2: support them. So after education is done.

825
00:44:33,173 --> 00:44:35,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's fair enough if you bring in a

826
00:44:35,533 --> 00:44:36,293
Speaker 3: decent wicket.

827
00:44:36,453 --> 00:44:40,413
Speaker 2: Although you know there are members of my family there

828
00:44:40,453 --> 00:44:41,893
Speaker 2: were at university till they were thirty.

829
00:44:43,613 --> 00:44:45,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is hard. That is hard.

830
00:44:45,653 --> 00:44:52,493
Speaker 2: So maybe there's twenty one or so, maybe maybe something

831
00:44:52,573 --> 00:44:56,692
Speaker 2: like this, whatever comes first you finish education or you're

832
00:44:56,733 --> 00:44:57,773
Speaker 2: twenty one years old.

833
00:44:57,613 --> 00:44:59,453
Speaker 3: That's a nice way to put It's eight hundred and

834
00:44:59,533 --> 00:45:02,173
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call get a rose?

835
00:45:02,773 --> 00:45:06,172
Speaker 3: Hello God, So at what age do you cut them

836
00:45:06,213 --> 00:45:06,893
Speaker 3: off financially?

837
00:45:08,493 --> 00:45:11,613
Speaker 14: Well, they're children, we've got free we're all grown up now.

838
00:45:11,653 --> 00:45:14,893
Speaker 14: Of course they all left home. They turned out them.

839
00:45:16,933 --> 00:45:21,573
Speaker 3: Yep, and your phone line is just a little bit muffled, rose,

840
00:45:21,613 --> 00:45:23,333
Speaker 3: But will persevere and hopefully it comes right.

841
00:45:24,093 --> 00:45:30,253
Speaker 15: And they've always, you know, looked after themselves. We've we

842
00:45:30,373 --> 00:45:33,692
Speaker 15: lent two of them money, but they had to pay

843
00:45:33,733 --> 00:45:35,413
Speaker 15: it back and they did pay it back.

844
00:45:36,013 --> 00:45:37,893
Speaker 2: So from what age did they look after themselves?

845
00:45:37,973 --> 00:45:38,212
Speaker 10: Rose?

846
00:45:39,853 --> 00:45:40,652
Speaker 14: When they left home?

847
00:45:41,733 --> 00:45:43,373
Speaker 2: So what seventeen?

848
00:45:44,333 --> 00:45:47,253
Speaker 15: Yeah, they would have been seventeen. I mean two of

849
00:45:47,293 --> 00:45:50,373
Speaker 15: them came back on a two on what the two

850
00:45:50,413 --> 00:45:52,693
Speaker 15: of them came back to live for a little while,

851
00:45:52,813 --> 00:45:57,133
Speaker 15: but they paid board, they had to contribute, and then

852
00:45:57,173 --> 00:45:59,293
Speaker 15: they left home again and went talking to their own thing.

853
00:46:00,453 --> 00:46:02,732
Speaker 2: Does it count ifew come back? Because when I left

854
00:46:02,773 --> 00:46:06,772
Speaker 2: home at about seventeen, I would come back and work

855
00:46:06,773 --> 00:46:09,733
Speaker 2: on the farm to get some money. So I was

856
00:46:09,813 --> 00:46:12,693
Speaker 2: kind of independent, but I was being paid by my

857
00:46:12,853 --> 00:46:14,093
Speaker 2: parents to come back.

858
00:46:14,893 --> 00:46:20,333
Speaker 14: You work, contribucing the ut yeah, yeah, and working on

859
00:46:20,373 --> 00:46:20,773
Speaker 14: the farm.

860
00:46:21,213 --> 00:46:23,933
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was offered a good wage to work.

861
00:46:24,053 --> 00:46:27,133
Speaker 15: But kids have to learn, I mean My dad was

862
00:46:27,173 --> 00:46:31,013
Speaker 15: a great believer because he was of the era of

863
00:46:31,173 --> 00:46:34,053
Speaker 15: the Great Depression in World War Two. You have to

864
00:46:34,093 --> 00:46:36,413
Speaker 15: pay your way, you have to contribute, you have to

865
00:46:36,453 --> 00:46:39,333
Speaker 15: do your bit. You can't expect to have a constant

866
00:46:39,373 --> 00:46:41,453
Speaker 15: handout because it's not doing you any favors.

867
00:46:42,613 --> 00:46:44,613
Speaker 3: What did you lend them money for, Rose.

868
00:46:45,933 --> 00:46:48,933
Speaker 14: One of our children bought a vehicle, right.

869
00:46:49,613 --> 00:46:52,693
Speaker 15: And one of them we lent them for money so

870
00:46:52,733 --> 00:46:53,973
Speaker 15: that they could get into a house.

871
00:46:54,653 --> 00:46:56,533
Speaker 3: So the house one I can understand. I mean, that's

872
00:46:56,573 --> 00:46:58,772
Speaker 3: the old bank of Mum and dad situation is you're

873
00:46:58,813 --> 00:47:01,053
Speaker 3: you're helping them with an investment and getting them on

874
00:47:01,093 --> 00:47:02,893
Speaker 3: the property, ladder and vehicle.

875
00:47:02,973 --> 00:47:03,172
Speaker 12: Yep.

876
00:47:03,213 --> 00:47:04,453
Speaker 3: If they didn't have the money at the time, as

877
00:47:04,493 --> 00:47:05,573
Speaker 3: long as they pay it back.

878
00:47:06,733 --> 00:47:09,173
Speaker 14: They paid it back the house.

879
00:47:09,613 --> 00:47:14,133
Speaker 15: It was all done legally, so it was they were

880
00:47:14,133 --> 00:47:17,013
Speaker 15: told right from the beginning, you have to pay it back.

881
00:47:17,333 --> 00:47:20,373
Speaker 15: You can't just drink it as a gift, because it's not.

882
00:47:21,373 --> 00:47:23,253
Speaker 3: What if they get you know, at some point in

883
00:47:23,333 --> 00:47:24,893
Speaker 3: their life they sound like good kids, Rose, and you

884
00:47:24,973 --> 00:47:26,613
Speaker 3: sound like a great mum. But if they get into

885
00:47:27,013 --> 00:47:29,493
Speaker 3: financial stock for whatever reason, and they get into a

886
00:47:29,493 --> 00:47:31,173
Speaker 3: lot of debt and say marm I need some help.

887
00:47:31,653 --> 00:47:33,732
Speaker 3: Would you with the same rules apply that. Yep, we'll

888
00:47:33,853 --> 00:47:35,413
Speaker 3: loan you the money, but you're going to pay it back.

889
00:47:36,133 --> 00:47:38,172
Speaker 14: It would depend on what the depth was and how

890
00:47:38,173 --> 00:47:41,093
Speaker 14: they got themselves into the crack in the first place, gambling,

891
00:47:43,493 --> 00:47:45,172
Speaker 14: and then we all have to be responsible.

892
00:47:45,293 --> 00:47:45,813
Speaker 4: We can't.

893
00:47:46,413 --> 00:47:50,133
Speaker 14: You know, when your parents die, as both of mine

894
00:47:50,173 --> 00:47:55,493
Speaker 14: have died. When you're gone, they're gone, and you have

895
00:47:55,613 --> 00:47:57,653
Speaker 14: to just hope that you're going to have enough mouse

896
00:47:58,333 --> 00:48:01,493
Speaker 14: to remember the stuff that they taught to if they

897
00:48:01,533 --> 00:48:05,453
Speaker 14: did teach you anything, and carry on with your life

898
00:48:05,493 --> 00:48:06,493
Speaker 14: and get on with us.

899
00:48:06,933 --> 00:48:09,333
Speaker 2: Do you put a moral code? It's interesting, Tyler, you

900
00:48:09,373 --> 00:48:12,653
Speaker 2: say gambling, right, or drugs or something. But if you

901
00:48:12,693 --> 00:48:14,973
Speaker 2: have kids in trouble, doesn't really matter why they are

902
00:48:14,973 --> 00:48:19,212
Speaker 2: in trouble. If they're financially distitute for whatever reason, then

903
00:48:19,253 --> 00:48:20,573
Speaker 2: you have to help them out. I mean, what is

904
00:48:20,613 --> 00:48:23,893
Speaker 2: an honorable way for them to be financially distributed.

905
00:48:24,373 --> 00:48:27,413
Speaker 14: The trouble is when usually when people get themselves into

906
00:48:27,413 --> 00:48:30,813
Speaker 14: those situations, it's not the first time that's done it,

907
00:48:31,093 --> 00:48:32,253
Speaker 14: and it won't be the last.

908
00:48:33,213 --> 00:48:35,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, good cool, ros, thank you very much. I mean,

909
00:48:35,693 --> 00:48:37,933
Speaker 3: interesting point you make, Matt, what would be an honorable

910
00:48:37,973 --> 00:48:39,333
Speaker 3: way to get yourself into trouble.

911
00:48:39,373 --> 00:48:41,133
Speaker 2: But what what got you in trouble when you went

912
00:48:41,173 --> 00:48:43,573
Speaker 2: back with your hand out to your mum when you

913
00:48:43,573 --> 00:48:44,652
Speaker 2: were twenty five years old?

914
00:48:45,013 --> 00:48:47,293
Speaker 3: The honor stancer here. It's highly embarrassing, but I'll give

915
00:48:47,333 --> 00:48:52,533
Speaker 3: you the honest answer is fines Video Easy that I

916
00:48:52,613 --> 00:48:55,813
Speaker 3: forgot about. And they wracked up and went all the

917
00:48:55,853 --> 00:48:59,053
Speaker 3: way to you know, to the top, and then I

918
00:48:59,093 --> 00:49:02,093
Speaker 3: had to figure out how to pay that their money.

919
00:49:02,333 --> 00:49:05,093
Speaker 3: So it ended up being like three K. And this

920
00:49:05,133 --> 00:49:06,653
Speaker 3: is as a twenty one year old, and I'm like,

921
00:49:06,693 --> 00:49:08,933
Speaker 3: because I forgot about it, I've forgotten at a minute,

922
00:49:08,973 --> 00:49:09,893
Speaker 3: so they came after me.

923
00:49:09,973 --> 00:49:12,172
Speaker 2: I mean, this is ancient technology and no one goes

924
00:49:12,213 --> 00:49:16,413
Speaker 2: to a Video Easy anymore. But I didn't know those

925
00:49:16,413 --> 00:49:20,053
Speaker 2: fines were real things. I just thought it was like

926
00:49:20,053 --> 00:49:22,933
Speaker 2: like you, it was a fine, and you antipay when

927
00:49:22,933 --> 00:49:24,373
Speaker 2: you tried to get something out Again, I didn't know

928
00:49:24,413 --> 00:49:25,413
Speaker 2: do they take the Baycorp.

929
00:49:25,493 --> 00:49:27,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when I got a call from Baycorp, I thought, okay,

930
00:49:27,653 --> 00:49:29,773
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go down to Video Easy and

931
00:49:29,813 --> 00:49:32,613
Speaker 3: explain that hey, I'm really sorry, but I'll pay you know,

932
00:49:32,933 --> 00:49:35,253
Speaker 3: a reasonable amount here but I'm not paying three thousand

933
00:49:35,253 --> 00:49:38,172
Speaker 3: dollars for two new releases that I got out three

934
00:49:38,213 --> 00:49:39,533
Speaker 3: years ago, but they wouldn't have it.

935
00:49:39,773 --> 00:49:40,013
Speaker 2: Wow.

936
00:49:40,213 --> 00:49:42,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Dean, How are you this afternoon?

937
00:49:44,173 --> 00:49:44,373
Speaker 5: Yeah?

938
00:49:44,373 --> 00:49:45,813
Speaker 16: I'm good made. I don't know if you can hear

939
00:49:45,853 --> 00:49:46,773
Speaker 16: me very well.

940
00:49:46,893 --> 00:49:50,253
Speaker 2: Very very well, coming through clear as a whistle or

941
00:49:50,293 --> 00:49:51,013
Speaker 2: a bell or something.

942
00:49:52,573 --> 00:49:53,093
Speaker 16: Excellent.

943
00:49:53,493 --> 00:49:54,252
Speaker 11: I look.

944
00:49:54,333 --> 00:49:58,853
Speaker 16: So I've got a few kids, my two youngest, twenty

945
00:49:58,893 --> 00:50:02,652
Speaker 16: one twin girls. They're both being through university.

946
00:50:03,453 --> 00:50:05,093
Speaker 2: Did you say twenty one year old? Did you say

947
00:50:05,093 --> 00:50:05,813
Speaker 2: twenty one year old?

948
00:50:05,813 --> 00:50:06,013
Speaker 10: Dean?

949
00:50:06,933 --> 00:50:07,172
Speaker 5: Great?

950
00:50:07,373 --> 00:50:07,573
Speaker 2: Yep.

951
00:50:08,773 --> 00:50:14,693
Speaker 16: So you've been independent since they were like probably seventeen eighteen.

952
00:50:14,973 --> 00:50:20,493
Speaker 16: I've been university, been planning, but they've really understand that

953
00:50:20,573 --> 00:50:24,453
Speaker 16: they had to have other work while at university. So

954
00:50:25,213 --> 00:50:29,252
Speaker 16: one's doing thirty hours. They're the ones full time as well,

955
00:50:29,453 --> 00:50:36,013
Speaker 16: and once completed, they're a lawyers. So she's now qualifying

956
00:50:36,053 --> 00:50:39,773
Speaker 16: this year now, the ones in her third year social science.

957
00:50:39,893 --> 00:50:41,853
Speaker 2: So did you ever have a word to them about

958
00:50:41,893 --> 00:50:44,693
Speaker 2: that or did they just know that that was the expectation.

959
00:50:46,173 --> 00:50:51,133
Speaker 16: I think it was the expectation of you know, they

960
00:50:51,213 --> 00:50:55,692
Speaker 16: understand where money came from, how difficult it was, and

961
00:50:55,773 --> 00:51:00,573
Speaker 16: made that commitment and yeah, incredibly proud. But yeah, they

962
00:51:00,613 --> 00:51:04,893
Speaker 16: work incredibly hard to get to where they've got. So yeah,

963
00:51:04,933 --> 00:51:06,853
Speaker 16: but having said that, you know, I've been up here

964
00:51:06,853 --> 00:51:09,893
Speaker 16: for the weekend. They're up here for electric so we

965
00:51:10,013 --> 00:51:12,493
Speaker 16: said me, I shouted for a lunch for everyone.

966
00:51:12,693 --> 00:51:17,652
Speaker 2: So that is a That is a big moment, though,

967
00:51:17,693 --> 00:51:22,293
Speaker 2: wasn't it. And when you as a child start paying

968
00:51:22,453 --> 00:51:26,493
Speaker 2: for dinners out or lunches out, or when you're out

969
00:51:26,493 --> 00:51:28,453
Speaker 2: with the family, when you head.

970
00:51:28,333 --> 00:51:31,652
Speaker 17: Up to the credit camp, Yeah, it's massive when you go

971
00:51:31,893 --> 00:51:34,573
Speaker 17: up and you know one's already got out these I've got.

972
00:51:34,573 --> 00:51:39,652
Speaker 2: The dads don't like that, Yeah, it can go the

973
00:51:39,653 --> 00:51:43,692
Speaker 2: other way. A dad I think would rather pay then

974
00:51:44,333 --> 00:51:46,693
Speaker 2: then I don't know, it's that's too much of an

975
00:51:46,693 --> 00:51:49,413
Speaker 2: aggressive changing of the guard. I think my dad would

976
00:51:49,413 --> 00:51:50,693
Speaker 2: fight me at the apost machine.

977
00:51:50,813 --> 00:51:54,933
Speaker 16: Yep, yeah, no, no, I hear what he's saying. But

978
00:51:55,093 --> 00:51:58,093
Speaker 16: also too, that was a messive achievement for her and

979
00:51:59,333 --> 00:52:00,293
Speaker 16: take that one.

980
00:52:00,853 --> 00:52:03,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a nice thing for dads. But yeah, I

981
00:52:03,093 --> 00:52:05,133
Speaker 3: mean when you mentioned that, Matt, I don't think I'm

982
00:52:05,133 --> 00:52:07,093
Speaker 3: speaking out of tune here, but I'd quite like to

983
00:52:07,373 --> 00:52:10,133
Speaker 3: I quite like to pay for some you know May's parents.

984
00:52:10,173 --> 00:52:12,133
Speaker 3: The in law is fantastic people, Pete and Lisa, if

985
00:52:12,133 --> 00:52:14,293
Speaker 3: you're listening, But Pete just let me pay for dinner

986
00:52:14,333 --> 00:52:16,813
Speaker 3: once in a blue moon. He hates that he's right

987
00:52:16,893 --> 00:52:18,533
Speaker 3: up there faster than not if he sees me get

988
00:52:18,613 --> 00:52:20,172
Speaker 3: up to go to the toilet boom, he's already up

989
00:52:20,173 --> 00:52:22,333
Speaker 3: at the register, already paying for the bill and seems

990
00:52:22,333 --> 00:52:22,933
Speaker 3: telling them.

991
00:52:23,933 --> 00:52:27,293
Speaker 2: Work hard my whole life for this snotty little pest

992
00:52:27,613 --> 00:52:30,613
Speaker 2: who's sniffing around my daughter to try and out muscle

993
00:52:30,693 --> 00:52:32,853
Speaker 2: me at the at the bill.

994
00:52:32,973 --> 00:52:34,533
Speaker 3: That's exactly what's going through his head.

995
00:52:35,293 --> 00:52:37,053
Speaker 2: Dean, thanks very much for giving us a call and

996
00:52:37,093 --> 00:52:42,413
Speaker 2: congratulations for bringing up such you know, resilient and responsible daughters.

997
00:52:42,893 --> 00:52:44,813
Speaker 2: Reflects well on you, Dean, So thank you for your call.

998
00:52:45,853 --> 00:52:47,853
Speaker 3: Thank you guy, Go well mate. Oh eight one hundred

999
00:52:47,853 --> 00:52:50,053
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? So

1000
00:52:50,133 --> 00:52:53,692
Speaker 3: when is it time for your kids to fly solo financially?

1001
00:52:53,893 --> 00:52:56,172
Speaker 3: Is it sixteen to nineteen? Is a third of Kiwi

1002
00:52:56,293 --> 00:52:58,373
Speaker 3: parents reckon? Or is it maybe a bit older than that?

1003
00:52:58,413 --> 00:53:00,853
Speaker 2: And if you had a sniffling sun at law son

1004
00:53:00,853 --> 00:53:03,453
Speaker 2: in law trying to assert as authority over you by

1005
00:53:03,453 --> 00:53:04,373
Speaker 2: trying to pay for the bill.

1006
00:53:04,493 --> 00:53:06,133
Speaker 3: Just let me pay, Pete, just let me pay. It

1007
00:53:06,293 --> 00:53:07,733
Speaker 3: is twenty four pars.

1008
00:53:07,373 --> 00:53:14,293
Speaker 1: Too, Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight

1009
00:53:14,773 --> 00:53:16,933
Speaker 1: eight eighty on used talk ZV.

1010
00:53:16,933 --> 00:53:18,773
Speaker 3: Twenty six pas too. So when is it time to

1011
00:53:19,013 --> 00:53:21,933
Speaker 3: end the bank of mum and dad and let your

1012
00:53:21,973 --> 00:53:23,813
Speaker 3: kids stand on their own two feet financially.

1013
00:53:24,133 --> 00:53:26,652
Speaker 2: I got two step sons and their forties, says text,

1014
00:53:26,693 --> 00:53:29,493
Speaker 2: are still asking their mother my wife for cash. The

1015
00:53:29,533 --> 00:53:31,733
Speaker 2: only time she hears from them is when they are broke.

1016
00:53:31,773 --> 00:53:35,692
Speaker 3: What losers? You're in your sons as well.

1017
00:53:35,773 --> 00:53:39,373
Speaker 2: If you're in forties asking your mom for money and

1018
00:53:39,493 --> 00:53:42,733
Speaker 2: only talking to her when you need money, then you

1019
00:53:42,813 --> 00:53:45,253
Speaker 2: need to give yourself an uppercut. Yeah, go out and

1020
00:53:45,293 --> 00:53:47,773
Speaker 2: spend the last money you've got on a taser and

1021
00:53:47,813 --> 00:53:50,212
Speaker 2: then taisy yourself and then go around and tase your brother.

1022
00:53:50,493 --> 00:53:51,133
Speaker 3: Do better.

1023
00:53:52,253 --> 00:53:55,333
Speaker 2: You just read out my text about me charging my

1024
00:53:55,373 --> 00:53:57,453
Speaker 2: ten year old rent. I should have said I am

1025
00:53:57,493 --> 00:53:59,733
Speaker 2: saving it up towards her first car. She doesn't know that.

1026
00:53:59,893 --> 00:54:01,013
Speaker 2: But you say that's good, isn't it?

1027
00:54:01,493 --> 00:54:02,772
Speaker 3: So that is cool?

1028
00:54:02,813 --> 00:54:03,053
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1029
00:54:03,053 --> 00:54:05,253
Speaker 3: So then when it comes round to probably your sixteenth

1030
00:54:05,373 --> 00:54:08,093
Speaker 3: or seventeenth birthday. You say, hey, all that rent your

1031
00:54:08,093 --> 00:54:09,732
Speaker 3: pay good to go for a cat.

1032
00:54:09,973 --> 00:54:14,053
Speaker 2: My beautiful autistic boy with intellectual disability will likely need

1033
00:54:14,093 --> 00:54:16,933
Speaker 2: support for all our lives, the joy of my life.

1034
00:54:16,973 --> 00:54:20,253
Speaker 2: Don't forget us in your corditor. Yeah, well, I mean

1035
00:54:20,333 --> 00:54:22,573
Speaker 2: there are there are. I mean that's that's a different case,

1036
00:54:22,613 --> 00:54:24,573
Speaker 2: isn't it. That is outside of what we're talking about.

1037
00:54:25,373 --> 00:54:27,493
Speaker 2: Some some kids won't be able to look after themselves.

1038
00:54:27,573 --> 00:54:27,772
Speaker 5: Yep.

1039
00:54:27,813 --> 00:54:32,053
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but often that ends up being an incredible experience

1040
00:54:32,053 --> 00:54:33,772
Speaker 2: for the parents for their whole life as well. Yeah.

1041
00:54:33,933 --> 00:54:36,732
Speaker 3: Absolutely, keep those teams coming through on nine to two,

1042
00:54:37,173 --> 00:54:42,133
Speaker 3: nine to two. But let's go to Mark, get a mark.

1043
00:54:43,253 --> 00:54:43,453
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1044
00:54:43,493 --> 00:54:46,813
Speaker 17: The example you just gave reminded of the movie Step Brothers.

1045
00:54:47,373 --> 00:54:48,493
Speaker 17: It's quite a good movie.

1046
00:54:49,213 --> 00:54:52,493
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean yeah, yeah, talk about cutting the apron

1047
00:54:52,493 --> 00:54:55,733
Speaker 3: springs a strings. I mean that's a great movie though, hilarious.

1048
00:54:56,053 --> 00:54:57,133
Speaker 17: Yeah, that is good.

1049
00:54:57,573 --> 00:54:58,373
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1050
00:54:58,453 --> 00:55:02,212
Speaker 17: Yesterday, I'm a father my son to pay the bill.

1051
00:55:02,253 --> 00:55:03,573
Speaker 17: He came up and you sort of got to pay

1052
00:55:03,613 --> 00:55:06,293
Speaker 17: for himself and someone else. And then he turned and said, oh,

1053
00:55:06,373 --> 00:55:08,253
Speaker 17: I was trying to work it out. And then he goes, oh,

1054
00:55:08,453 --> 00:55:10,053
Speaker 17: why don't we just go hars And I was like,

1055
00:55:10,133 --> 00:55:12,252
Speaker 17: I nearly fell over on the ground. I thought, whoa,

1056
00:55:12,893 --> 00:55:15,413
Speaker 17: because it's usually reasonably tied over the years. But yeah,

1057
00:55:15,453 --> 00:55:17,413
Speaker 17: it was quite a turning point. And I didn't mind

1058
00:55:17,413 --> 00:55:20,093
Speaker 17: paying half. I thought that was quite good. So yeah,

1059
00:55:20,253 --> 00:55:21,212
Speaker 17: I didn't tied them over.

1060
00:55:21,253 --> 00:55:24,253
Speaker 3: It put it that way, so that's reasonable. The issue

1061
00:55:24,253 --> 00:55:26,253
Speaker 3: that I find myself in, Marc is that my lovely

1062
00:55:26,293 --> 00:55:29,813
Speaker 3: partner may have quite likes being paid for by her

1063
00:55:29,853 --> 00:55:32,093
Speaker 3: parents because that's how they operate in a beautiful family.

1064
00:55:32,653 --> 00:55:34,693
Speaker 3: And then, you know what I didn't say is that

1065
00:55:34,773 --> 00:55:36,893
Speaker 3: the time that I did sneak past Peter managed to

1066
00:55:36,893 --> 00:55:39,933
Speaker 3: pay he was furious. He was so angry. He said,

1067
00:55:39,933 --> 00:55:42,692
Speaker 3: don't you ever do that again. So I thought, oh, come, Pete,

1068
00:55:42,733 --> 00:55:44,973
Speaker 3: you know, like we're you know, we're doing okay. Now,

1069
00:55:44,973 --> 00:55:46,692
Speaker 3: it's just nice for me to do that.

1070
00:55:46,933 --> 00:55:49,293
Speaker 2: You're trying to you were trying to take charge of

1071
00:55:49,293 --> 00:55:51,493
Speaker 2: the family. You were basically saying to Pete, I'm the

1072
00:55:51,533 --> 00:55:53,293
Speaker 2: man of the family. Now, that's what you were saying.

1073
00:55:53,493 --> 00:55:54,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he didn't like that.

1074
00:55:54,613 --> 00:55:58,773
Speaker 17: Funnily enough, I think for me, I helped both my

1075
00:55:58,853 --> 00:56:00,853
Speaker 17: kids through university, but that was sort of the end

1076
00:56:00,853 --> 00:56:02,973
Speaker 17: point for me. I mean, it costs me, I'll have

1077
00:56:02,973 --> 00:56:04,933
Speaker 17: a lot more to put my kids through university. And

1078
00:56:05,013 --> 00:56:08,893
Speaker 17: I went through myself, to be honest, exed out my

1079
00:56:08,933 --> 00:56:11,373
Speaker 17: credit card which has a large, large limit, and then

1080
00:56:11,533 --> 00:56:13,133
Speaker 17: got another credit cad at one point.

1081
00:56:13,133 --> 00:56:15,453
Speaker 2: And I'm just sort of for your for your for

1082
00:56:15,493 --> 00:56:18,213
Speaker 2: your daughters, or for you my son.

1083
00:56:18,133 --> 00:56:20,533
Speaker 17: And you're doing ort to pay for them to go

1084
00:56:20,613 --> 00:56:21,533
Speaker 17: through university.

1085
00:56:23,453 --> 00:56:25,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that's about right now, isn't it

1086
00:56:25,973 --> 00:56:28,652
Speaker 2: that that you help them till they're educated, because it's

1087
00:56:28,693 --> 00:56:31,253
Speaker 2: your job right to bring them up and make them

1088
00:56:31,253 --> 00:56:33,253
Speaker 2: ready for the world, and part of that is their education.

1089
00:56:33,453 --> 00:56:35,453
Speaker 2: And so once they've done that, they've got all this

1090
00:56:35,533 --> 00:56:37,773
Speaker 2: stuff together, all all the ducks in a row to

1091
00:56:37,813 --> 00:56:39,773
Speaker 2: hit the world. They've got their education, you've fed them,

1092
00:56:39,813 --> 00:56:41,893
Speaker 2: you've grown the marp, you've hopefully given them some kind

1093
00:56:41,893 --> 00:56:44,733
Speaker 2: of good moral code, and then it's their time to

1094
00:56:44,813 --> 00:56:45,893
Speaker 2: take charge of their life.

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Speaker 17: I didn't want them to be super burden with it.

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00:56:49,013 --> 00:56:51,773
Speaker 17: They get that just like hands around the net for like,

1097
00:56:51,853 --> 00:56:54,613
Speaker 17: you know, decades, really, you know, and like my son

1098
00:56:54,733 --> 00:56:56,933
Speaker 17: is already like he's only twenty five, and he'd like

1099
00:56:57,013 --> 00:56:59,453
Speaker 17: paid off whatever remnants of a student on here. A

1100
00:56:59,453 --> 00:57:01,573
Speaker 17: couple of years ago, which is a huge benefit for

1101
00:57:01,653 --> 00:57:04,212
Speaker 17: the start of your life because that that student deck

1102
00:57:04,413 --> 00:57:07,293
Speaker 17: you know is real, real millstone around you, you know,

1103
00:57:07,413 --> 00:57:10,213
Speaker 17: has a real effect your whole life basically quite a

1104
00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:12,933
Speaker 17: long time for a lot of people. And yeah, it's

1105
00:57:12,973 --> 00:57:15,213
Speaker 17: not really something you want to send the kids offwards

1106
00:57:15,213 --> 00:57:17,853
Speaker 17: to start life as a huge student in a weird way.

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00:57:18,373 --> 00:57:19,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on your mark.

1108
00:57:19,533 --> 00:57:20,773
Speaker 3: Yeah I agree, yep.

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00:57:21,293 --> 00:57:23,093
Speaker 2: If you can help them through their education all the

1110
00:57:23,093 --> 00:57:24,853
Speaker 2: way through, I mean not everyone can, but if you can,

1111
00:57:24,933 --> 00:57:27,253
Speaker 2: then that seems like a good thing to do. But

1112
00:57:27,293 --> 00:57:30,693
Speaker 2: then cut them off cold what Yeah? Yeah, as soon

1113
00:57:30,733 --> 00:57:33,053
Speaker 2: as they ring you up and say I've just finished

1114
00:57:33,053 --> 00:57:36,453
Speaker 2: my last exam, you're like, welcome to the real wood. Yeah,

1115
00:57:36,613 --> 00:57:37,653
Speaker 2: how you start paying?

1116
00:57:37,693 --> 00:57:39,653
Speaker 3: You go cough up now? Oh one hundred and eighty

1117
00:57:39,733 --> 00:57:41,973
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? What do you

1118
00:57:42,053 --> 00:57:44,613
Speaker 3: think what is the appropriate age to cut off your

1119
00:57:44,653 --> 00:57:48,293
Speaker 3: child children financially? Headlines with Raylene coming up nine to

1120
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Speaker 3: nine two is the text, as well as twenty nine

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylane. It is twenty five to

1142
00:59:08,093 --> 00:59:11,733
Speaker 3: three three, So at what age do you financially cut

1143
00:59:11,813 --> 00:59:14,013
Speaker 3: your children off? That they should be standing on their

1144
00:59:14,013 --> 00:59:16,293
Speaker 3: own two feet when it comes to money. I wait,

1145
00:59:16,293 --> 00:59:18,133
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen eighty s that number, Kim says.

1146
00:59:18,133 --> 00:59:21,373
Speaker 2: Any parent who makes their school kid pay for everything

1147
00:59:21,413 --> 00:59:23,733
Speaker 2: at sixteen is abusive and needs reminding. The parent is

1148
00:59:23,813 --> 00:59:27,853
Speaker 2: legally responsible until they're eighteen. Even if the teen has

1149
00:59:27,853 --> 00:59:32,173
Speaker 2: a job. What they're abusive? Geez man, that is a

1150
00:59:32,333 --> 00:59:34,653
Speaker 2: very low level abusive. You might be saying that they're

1151
00:59:34,693 --> 00:59:36,733
Speaker 2: preparing them for life. It was the only real job

1152
00:59:36,773 --> 00:59:39,933
Speaker 2: of a parent is to make your kids competent. Right,

1153
00:59:40,573 --> 00:59:44,333
Speaker 2: So if you've got a kid that is contributing as

1154
00:59:44,373 --> 00:59:46,253
Speaker 2: much as they take at sixteen, you could see that

1155
00:59:46,293 --> 00:59:48,013
Speaker 2: as a positive thing. It's certainly not abuse.

1156
00:59:48,333 --> 00:59:51,053
Speaker 3: It's a good education, no doubt about it, good financial education.

1157
00:59:51,133 --> 00:59:54,773
Speaker 2: But fucked around's abuse? All those people that make their

1158
00:59:54,853 --> 00:59:57,573
Speaker 2: kids work in the family restaurant? Is that abuse? Is it?

1159
00:59:57,933 --> 00:59:58,053
Speaker 7: Well?

1160
00:59:58,053 --> 00:59:58,973
Speaker 3: According to that text?

1161
00:59:59,133 --> 01:00:02,053
Speaker 2: Maybe, Wow, you've got a very strange definition of abuse.

1162
01:00:02,813 --> 01:00:03,293
Speaker 3: Undred eighteen.

1163
01:00:03,293 --> 01:00:06,213
Speaker 2: I cut my kid off who's sixteen, just on the

1164
01:00:06,213 --> 01:00:09,893
Speaker 2: back of that text. To that text, I'm going to

1165
01:00:09,933 --> 01:00:11,893
Speaker 2: cut them off from it, okay, right, and see if

1166
01:00:11,893 --> 01:00:12,893
Speaker 2: he can get me for abuse.

1167
01:00:14,093 --> 01:00:16,053
Speaker 3: Julie, what's your thoughts on this one.

1168
01:00:17,093 --> 01:00:19,453
Speaker 18: Well, we're going through at the moment, we've got a

1169
01:00:19,573 --> 01:00:23,693
Speaker 18: seventeen year old, so she's year fifteen at school and

1170
01:00:24,293 --> 01:00:27,533
Speaker 18: it's all about preparing them for that cut off. So

1171
01:00:28,133 --> 01:00:30,693
Speaker 18: we've been working with her, like she got a first

1172
01:00:30,733 --> 01:00:34,573
Speaker 18: job at thirteen, and that particular job, she went, I

1173
01:00:34,653 --> 01:00:37,293
Speaker 18: never want to do that for my adult career. So

1174
01:00:37,333 --> 01:00:43,333
Speaker 18: she started saving money. And so when she first started there,

1175
01:00:43,013 --> 01:00:45,613
Speaker 18: we were paying for everything. But then she was a phone.

1176
01:00:45,693 --> 01:00:48,653
Speaker 18: So he says, yeah, yeah, okay, we'll buy your phone,

1177
01:00:49,253 --> 01:00:52,133
Speaker 18: but you're paying for your plan and you're going to

1178
01:00:52,133 --> 01:00:55,133
Speaker 18: go and investigate find the big still pay for it

1179
01:00:55,173 --> 01:00:58,253
Speaker 18: for a year and then if once we're happy that

1180
01:00:58,293 --> 01:01:00,253
Speaker 18: you know how how the system works, we might put

1181
01:01:00,253 --> 01:01:03,693
Speaker 18: you on our family plan and kind of making her

1182
01:01:03,693 --> 01:01:07,533
Speaker 18: go and work for it. So she learned because all

1183
01:01:07,573 --> 01:01:10,333
Speaker 18: her all her mate they're all going on their appearents'

1184
01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:12,533
Speaker 18: plan and they thought data just was free and it

1185
01:01:12,653 --> 01:01:16,053
Speaker 18: just came out of the ear, whereas she understood that,

1186
01:01:16,093 --> 01:01:19,053
Speaker 18: you know, she turned her data off when she didn't

1187
01:01:19,053 --> 01:01:21,133
Speaker 18: need it, so she wasn't you know, it wasn't rolling

1188
01:01:21,133 --> 01:01:24,133
Speaker 18: over kind of things. So we've kind of done that

1189
01:01:24,173 --> 01:01:27,453
Speaker 18: with her. And I mean she's now got her first

1190
01:01:27,493 --> 01:01:32,133
Speaker 18: permanent part time job. She got that about a year ago,

1191
01:01:32,573 --> 01:01:34,813
Speaker 18: and so she's been working after schools and one day

1192
01:01:34,853 --> 01:01:37,213
Speaker 18: on well only one day after school, one day on

1193
01:01:37,253 --> 01:01:42,413
Speaker 18: the weekend. And so she now pays for the extras.

1194
01:01:42,533 --> 01:01:44,413
Speaker 18: So if she wants to go to a concert, that's

1195
01:01:44,413 --> 01:01:46,773
Speaker 18: on her. However many concerts she wants to go to,

1196
01:01:46,933 --> 01:01:48,693
Speaker 18: that's on her. She's got to work out what she

1197
01:01:48,693 --> 01:01:53,013
Speaker 18: can afford. But we've also said she wants to go

1198
01:01:53,053 --> 01:01:55,413
Speaker 18: to UNI, and it's like, well, that's good, save up

1199
01:01:55,413 --> 01:01:57,973
Speaker 18: your money to go to UNI, and if you get

1200
01:01:57,973 --> 01:01:59,613
Speaker 18: a degree, we'll pay you back.

1201
01:02:00,213 --> 01:02:05,453
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how much would you have to save up?

1202
01:02:05,493 --> 01:02:09,093
Speaker 2: Just so does that include including her the expenses?

1203
01:02:09,133 --> 01:02:11,773
Speaker 18: And that's a lot to say, Well, she's already because

1204
01:02:11,773 --> 01:02:15,413
Speaker 18: of this, she's actually been so active about finding out

1205
01:02:15,413 --> 01:02:18,453
Speaker 18: what money she's able to get for free, what money

1206
01:02:18,893 --> 01:02:20,613
Speaker 18: you know she will borrow. Well, she doesn't want to

1207
01:02:20,613 --> 01:02:23,693
Speaker 18: get a student line. So I mean, she's already got

1208
01:02:24,413 --> 01:02:29,573
Speaker 18: about twenty five city grand saved. Yeah, she's nearly got

1209
01:02:29,573 --> 01:02:31,973
Speaker 18: what she needs. We just don't want her to have

1210
01:02:32,013 --> 01:02:34,733
Speaker 18: a student line. It's possible, but again, that's that's too

1211
01:02:34,773 --> 01:02:36,733
Speaker 18: cool as a.

1212
01:02:36,813 --> 01:02:38,933
Speaker 2: Parent, and you have to do these things, don't you

1213
01:02:39,013 --> 01:02:41,773
Speaker 2: that seem harsh because it feels the hard yard, it

1214
01:02:41,813 --> 01:02:44,293
Speaker 2: feels it feels good as a parent to go, I'll

1215
01:02:44,333 --> 01:02:47,773
Speaker 2: just pay your bill, I'll and it feels good as

1216
01:02:47,813 --> 01:02:50,573
Speaker 2: a parent, But in the end you're kind of not

1217
01:02:50,653 --> 01:02:52,933
Speaker 2: being a parent because in this and this they learn

1218
01:02:53,013 --> 01:02:55,933
Speaker 2: the value of things. Then you know, there's a lot

1219
01:02:56,013 --> 01:02:57,533
Speaker 2: more time when they have to be an adult than

1220
01:02:57,613 --> 01:03:00,693
Speaker 2: when they're a kid at home. So if they don't.

1221
01:03:01,253 --> 01:03:04,333
Speaker 18: Support at home, she certainly still gets support. But there's

1222
01:03:04,573 --> 01:03:07,013
Speaker 18: like we'll go out somewhere and she'll want to buy something,

1223
01:03:07,053 --> 01:03:10,813
Speaker 18: and she will assume if it's over and above what

1224
01:03:10,933 --> 01:03:14,653
Speaker 18: I normally buy, Laura, she'll assume that she's got to

1225
01:03:14,653 --> 01:03:16,253
Speaker 18: buy it, and then it's nice for me to go,

1226
01:03:16,333 --> 01:03:16,813
Speaker 18: that's all right.

1227
01:03:16,693 --> 01:03:17,533
Speaker 14: Hannah'd buy that for you.

1228
01:03:17,573 --> 01:03:20,253
Speaker 18: Today you'll be working really hard, So you know, you're

1229
01:03:20,293 --> 01:03:24,973
Speaker 18: still giving her that positive feedback. But she knows not

1230
01:03:25,053 --> 01:03:28,493
Speaker 18: to expect too much. And you know, she's been in

1231
01:03:28,493 --> 01:03:34,293
Speaker 18: the situation. She's been two different schools, one that's a

1232
01:03:34,333 --> 01:03:39,053
Speaker 18: lower socioeconomic school and then one that's very wealthy. And

1233
01:03:39,133 --> 01:03:42,573
Speaker 18: we sit somewhere in the middle but she's been gobsmacked

1234
01:03:42,693 --> 01:03:47,693
Speaker 18: at how little both ends of the scale know about budgeting.

1235
01:03:49,813 --> 01:03:52,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a gap in that education, absolutely, I think,

1236
01:03:52,973 --> 01:03:56,213
Speaker 3: I mean hopefully she shouldn't be doing it.

1237
01:03:56,453 --> 01:03:58,653
Speaker 18: Sorry, the school shouldn't be doing it. It should be

1238
01:03:58,653 --> 01:04:01,133
Speaker 18: something the parents should be talking to the gap constantly.

1239
01:04:01,573 --> 01:04:04,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of parents are useless.

1240
01:04:03,653 --> 01:04:03,893
Speaker 7: Though.

1241
01:04:05,613 --> 01:04:07,813
Speaker 18: They are, they are, that's true.

1242
01:04:08,733 --> 01:04:10,293
Speaker 2: I think if you called Julie got on you.

1243
01:04:10,453 --> 01:04:12,213
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that if she's got enough to

1244
01:04:12,213 --> 01:04:14,813
Speaker 3: pay for her own university through hard work and some

1245
01:04:14,853 --> 01:04:17,893
Speaker 3: good skills from Julie and her parents, that's amazing because

1246
01:04:17,933 --> 01:04:19,933
Speaker 3: then she's going to be a lot She's going to

1247
01:04:19,933 --> 01:04:23,973
Speaker 3: be at an advantage from other friends who have you know,

1248
01:04:24,093 --> 01:04:26,213
Speaker 3: that ball and chain around them for ten years.

1249
01:04:26,293 --> 01:04:28,733
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's amazing when your kid gets a part time job.

1250
01:04:28,773 --> 01:04:30,853
Speaker 2: And I know it's hard to get a part time job,

1251
01:04:30,893 --> 01:04:34,453
Speaker 2: it can be for kids, but especially now that because

1252
01:04:34,453 --> 01:04:36,373
Speaker 2: they have to pay them quite a lot. Yeah, yeah,

1253
01:04:36,373 --> 01:04:40,653
Speaker 2: comparatively so. But when they do, boy, that changes their

1254
01:04:40,733 --> 01:04:43,253
Speaker 2: view of money. When a kurd has worked an hour

1255
01:04:43,813 --> 01:04:47,453
Speaker 2: and they see they start looking at everything. Both my sons,

1256
01:04:47,453 --> 01:04:50,133
Speaker 2: when they got part time jobs, both started looking at

1257
01:04:50,173 --> 01:04:52,813
Speaker 2: things that were bought or things that were bought for them,

1258
01:04:53,013 --> 01:04:56,813
Speaker 2: and how many hours work at a cafe they both

1259
01:04:56,853 --> 01:05:00,133
Speaker 2: work to get you know, you go, I'm going to

1260
01:05:00,213 --> 01:05:03,093
Speaker 2: buy a Monster energy drink. You know that is this

1261
01:05:03,293 --> 01:05:05,413
Speaker 2: percentage of how long this is how long I would

1262
01:05:05,453 --> 01:05:06,253
Speaker 2: have to work to pay for that.

1263
01:05:06,453 --> 01:05:10,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, it changes your perception. Yep, fast education on that one.

1264
01:05:10,413 --> 01:05:12,413
Speaker 2: So if you can get your kids into a part

1265
01:05:12,453 --> 01:05:14,373
Speaker 2: time job, or if they can get one, then I

1266
01:05:14,373 --> 01:05:17,493
Speaker 2: think that's a big start on the way to understanding

1267
01:05:17,533 --> 01:05:18,253
Speaker 2: money and budgeting.

1268
01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:20,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, just listen listening to Julie and I know it

1269
01:05:20,933 --> 01:05:23,573
Speaker 3: was a book called Die with Nothing, and I'll get

1270
01:05:23,613 --> 01:05:25,773
Speaker 3: the author in a minute, but he made the arguments

1271
01:05:26,053 --> 01:05:28,413
Speaker 3: that when your children are a bit younger, it makes

1272
01:05:28,453 --> 01:05:31,973
Speaker 3: more sense to provide a good chunk of the inheritance

1273
01:05:31,973 --> 01:05:34,653
Speaker 3: at that point because it sets them up on a

1274
01:05:34,653 --> 01:05:37,733
Speaker 3: better footing before they hit you know, twenty or twenty

1275
01:05:37,773 --> 01:05:40,213
Speaker 3: five or only. There's an interesting argument that you actually

1276
01:05:40,213 --> 01:05:43,293
Speaker 3: do pay or give your children a whole lot more

1277
01:05:43,333 --> 01:05:45,013
Speaker 3: when they are younger to get them set up, get

1278
01:05:45,013 --> 01:05:47,493
Speaker 3: them in a house, whatever it is, pay for university

1279
01:05:47,533 --> 01:05:51,493
Speaker 3: without taking on a big loan. Arguably that can be

1280
01:05:51,893 --> 01:05:54,813
Speaker 3: a better strategy for the long term, because, as we know,

1281
01:05:54,893 --> 01:05:58,133
Speaker 3: when it comes to money, accrude interest, compounding or the

1282
01:05:58,133 --> 01:06:00,253
Speaker 3: rest of it can set your kids up for a

1283
01:06:00,253 --> 01:06:03,093
Speaker 3: better future. But then you've got the argument, do I

1284
01:06:03,093 --> 01:06:05,733
Speaker 3: give my kids one hundred thousand dollars when they're eighteen

1285
01:06:05,853 --> 01:06:07,893
Speaker 3: that's their inheritance and hope for the best?

1286
01:06:08,373 --> 01:06:10,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, thissen, interesting idea. Hey guys, Ada friend, this is

1287
01:06:10,613 --> 01:06:12,813
Speaker 2: kind of similar. Hey, guy's Ada friend that had five kids.

1288
01:06:12,853 --> 01:06:15,333
Speaker 2: They were always coming to him for money. He had enough,

1289
01:06:15,653 --> 01:06:17,613
Speaker 2: so he sold the family home and went renting. He

1290
01:06:17,693 --> 01:06:19,573
Speaker 2: split the money up from the sale of the house

1291
01:06:19,613 --> 01:06:21,773
Speaker 2: evenly between the five of them and said, don't come

1292
01:06:21,813 --> 01:06:23,493
Speaker 2: back for money because there isn't any more.

1293
01:06:23,613 --> 01:06:25,853
Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, bold strategy.

1294
01:06:26,293 --> 01:06:29,173
Speaker 2: He's renting now. But what kind of kid would take

1295
01:06:29,253 --> 01:06:32,293
Speaker 2: that money? You know, if my parents came to me

1296
01:06:32,493 --> 01:06:35,093
Speaker 2: and said we're selling the house to give you and

1297
01:06:35,173 --> 01:06:38,493
Speaker 2: your three sisters money and we're going renting, I'd be

1298
01:06:38,613 --> 01:06:40,813
Speaker 2: like to be stupid. I'm not taking that money.

1299
01:06:40,933 --> 01:06:43,093
Speaker 3: You've got a good house there, I mean, yeah, yeah,

1300
01:06:43,173 --> 01:06:45,453
Speaker 3: get out keen on your views. Oh, eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty teen eighty is that number? It's eighteen to three.

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Speaker 1: Your home of Afternoon Talk Matty and Tyner Adams Afternoons

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Speaker 1: with Skoda. Can you crack the Scoda code?

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Speaker 3: News Talk, say'd be order two three? So we are

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01:06:59,413 --> 01:07:02,213
Speaker 3: talking about what's the appropriate age to cut the aprons

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01:07:02,533 --> 01:07:07,253
Speaker 3: strings financially for your children? Shohno, how are you damy?

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Speaker 8: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 13: Well?

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Speaker 4: Look, I reckon, I reckon.

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Speaker 13: It's about twenty three, twenty three, twenty four.

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Speaker 3: And why that age? What kind of happens at that age?

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Speaker 3: Do you think right now you're old enough to go

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Speaker 3: on your own?

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Speaker 8: Well, let's.

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Speaker 13: I'll give you a good example of my kids. So

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Speaker 13: the way that we've structured with our kids at home.

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Speaker 13: So we've got we've got three kids once they and

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Speaker 13: they all still live at home, but the time is

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Speaker 13: coming that they're starting to disappear. So the middle child,

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Speaker 13: he's just gone twenty one, he's doing an apprenticeship. Now

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Speaker 13: he's sitting with a six figure in his bank account,

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Speaker 13: so he's pre approved.

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Speaker 1: By a house.

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Speaker 13: He's good to go. The eldest one is very, very similar.

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Speaker 13: She's just done unique and assuning, got her first job,

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01:08:02,253 --> 01:08:04,933
Speaker 13: so she's done a year and a bit and by

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Speaker 13: the end of this year, she'll be financially in a

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Speaker 13: position to go. So my thing is that you cut

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Speaker 13: them off too early. You're putting them in a position where, yes,

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Speaker 13: I've got a fend for themselves, I get that, but

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Speaker 13: put them in put them in a position where they

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Speaker 13: can actually get ahead. But if they're borrowing from the start,

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Speaker 13: it doesn't do anybody any good, doesn't do them any good.

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Speaker 2: How they got into that. How's your twenty one year

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01:08:25,412 --> 01:08:27,692
Speaker 2: had gone to the position to have six figures in

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Speaker 2: the account? In the account, is that from his money

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Speaker 2: he's been working.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, he's in Wow.

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Speaker 2: That is an incredible saver by twenty one.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: What we've done, so we've done a little bit different

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Speaker 13: similar to what some people have sort of said. But

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Speaker 13: what we decided to do with our kids was that

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Speaker 13: when they started working, we wouldn't charge them board all right,

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01:08:49,572 --> 01:08:51,213
Speaker 13: but what they had to do was they had to

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01:08:51,253 --> 01:08:54,572
Speaker 13: save seventy five to eighty percent of their wage. So

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Speaker 13: we actually sat down with them and gave them their budget.

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Speaker 13: So they had their accounts. So our kids have three accounts,

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01:09:00,133 --> 01:09:02,652
Speaker 13: three bank accounts, or one of them actually has four,

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01:09:02,933 --> 01:09:06,772
Speaker 13: and everything is put into those accounts. So they understand budgeting,

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01:09:06,772 --> 01:09:09,133
Speaker 13: they understand how to use their money. So it's the

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Speaker 13: money that they have saved.

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Speaker 19: Now.

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Speaker 13: The middle child, the boy, he worked in year twelve

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Speaker 13: and thirteen, so he left school with about forty that

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Speaker 13: he had saved up.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's how.

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Speaker 13: We did it. And I just think it's a great

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01:09:23,213 --> 01:09:25,572
Speaker 13: way because you actually get you give these kids a

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01:09:25,692 --> 01:09:28,973
Speaker 13: chance to get into something. We're not going to be

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Speaker 13: mum and Dad's bank to borrow money or for the houses.

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Speaker 13: They've actually achieved it themselves. Yes, we've made it easier

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Speaker 13: by not charging them board or rent or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: But it set them up.

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Speaker 13: They should be set up now to go as impressive.

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Speaker 2: John need More of my son had a job from

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Speaker 2: when he was fourteen, and he didn't end up with

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Speaker 2: forty thousand in the bank. He ended up with lots

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Speaker 2: of pairs of sneakers, lots of lots of Lego sets.

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Speaker 2: And he looks back now and he goes, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: because he said to his younger brother, don't do what

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01:10:01,213 --> 01:10:03,852
Speaker 2: I do, because you get excited because you're earning money,

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01:10:03,933 --> 01:10:06,253
Speaker 2: and you'll just spend it on video games. You spend

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01:10:06,293 --> 01:10:09,652
Speaker 2: it on shoes, clothes, whatever, and you'll look back and

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01:10:09,692 --> 01:10:11,572
Speaker 2: go all those hours work and now I've got the

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01:10:11,572 --> 01:10:14,412
Speaker 2: stuff I don't even like anymore. So that's a lesson

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Speaker 2: in itself.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, and I think we need to do that more.

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Speaker 12: As parents.

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Speaker 13: We're actually you can argue what you way you want

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01:10:22,452 --> 01:10:23,812
Speaker 13: to argue, but I think his parents, we've got a

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01:10:23,853 --> 01:10:28,812
Speaker 13: responsibility to make sure our children understand money and whatever

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01:10:28,853 --> 01:10:31,732
Speaker 13: age that might happen for them, whether it's fifteen or

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Speaker 13: twenty five, but they don't get taught that at school,

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Speaker 13: So you've got to teach them and you don't want

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Speaker 13: them to find out the hard way. As you were

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01:10:38,492 --> 01:10:41,972
Speaker 13: saying before with your video. Easy scenario were suddenly you've

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01:10:41,973 --> 01:10:42,732
Speaker 13: got debt there and.

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Speaker 3: It's well, ye, yeah, so that was it.

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Speaker 13: You may not, I'm aware of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And my parents were great, But I think maybe

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01:10:50,412 --> 01:10:52,492
Speaker 3: it was just the era at the time that there

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01:10:52,612 --> 01:10:55,372
Speaker 3: wasn't any chat about, you know, compounding interest or make

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Speaker 3: sure you put your money aside and let it acrue.

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01:10:58,652 --> 01:11:00,253
Speaker 3: It was just kind of you're in the real world

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01:11:00,253 --> 01:11:03,973
Speaker 3: now and good luck, and if you rent videos and

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01:11:03,973 --> 01:11:05,812
Speaker 3: get into a lot of debt, then we'll bow you out.

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Speaker 2: And John of those were mainly adult movies that Tyler

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01:11:08,173 --> 01:11:08,892
Speaker 2: was as.

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Speaker 3: Well, you cannot confirm nor deny.

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Speaker 2: I wait, one hundred, it's only what Jina is saying

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01:11:12,893 --> 01:11:14,932
Speaker 2: that it's the school won't teach you. This Texas said

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01:11:14,933 --> 01:11:17,893
Speaker 2: it's not a parent's job to teach their kids, that

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01:11:17,893 --> 01:11:20,372
Speaker 2: that's why they go to school. Well, well, if you're

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01:11:20,652 --> 01:11:23,173
Speaker 2: if you're a if you are a parent, and you're

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01:11:23,452 --> 01:11:26,732
Speaker 2: you're going to allow the school to teach every part

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01:11:26,772 --> 01:11:28,893
Speaker 2: of their life and expect that their educational life is

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01:11:28,933 --> 01:11:30,692
Speaker 2: going to be handed to them by the school. You

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01:11:30,692 --> 01:11:32,333
Speaker 2: can get a very weird kid out the other end.

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Speaker 3: You certainly would, right, ten minutes to three, I one

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01:11:35,933 --> 01:11:37,772
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the number to call

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01:11:38,253 --> 01:11:40,333
Speaker 3: King to get your thoughts. At what age is it

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Speaker 3: appropriate to cut your kids off financially?

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Speaker 1: Back very surely the issues that affect you, and a

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01:11:46,253 --> 01:11:48,652
Speaker 1: bit of fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler

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Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

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01:11:52,612 --> 01:11:55,092
Speaker 3: News Talks HEB it is seven to three.

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Speaker 2: This Texas is disgusting joking about adult movies. I wasn't joking, Matt.

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Speaker 2: The apple doesn't fall far from the tree from what

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Speaker 2: I understand. You just like your son. You're just like

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01:12:05,133 --> 01:12:07,452
Speaker 2: your son Lego Baseball Caps and whatever you take a

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01:12:07,492 --> 01:12:12,612
Speaker 2: shine to that hurts Greg. There's some serious truth in.

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Speaker 3: That, a lot of truth in that.

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01:12:13,933 --> 01:12:16,293
Speaker 2: You've got to be careful. A lot of parenting is

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01:12:17,213 --> 01:12:19,812
Speaker 2: not what you order them to do, but what they

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01:12:19,853 --> 01:12:23,892
Speaker 2: see you doing. Yeah, regarding money education, the new school

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01:12:23,933 --> 01:12:27,412
Speaker 2: curriculum starting in twenty twenty seven will teach money education.

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01:12:27,732 --> 01:12:29,972
Speaker 2: That seems like a very good thing to me. Richard,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 12: Hi, an interesting conversation. I thought i'd ring in and

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01:12:35,973 --> 01:12:38,612
Speaker 12: share with you. How I handled things with my kid's

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01:12:38,652 --> 01:12:43,293
Speaker 12: student loans was partly something I gleaned from a relative,

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01:12:43,372 --> 01:12:47,173
Speaker 12: so it's not completely original, but I encouraged them to

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01:12:47,213 --> 01:12:49,812
Speaker 12: take student loan. My kids have all got essentially all

1437
01:12:49,853 --> 01:12:52,412
Speaker 12: got degrees. One of them's got a student loan bigger

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01:12:52,452 --> 01:12:56,213
Speaker 12: than being her and I told them to get a

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01:12:56,213 --> 01:12:58,973
Speaker 12: student loan, and so they understood that process. When they

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01:12:59,053 --> 01:13:01,732
Speaker 12: got a job, they started paying it down. But then

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01:13:01,772 --> 01:13:04,533
Speaker 12: I told them that when I said I had as

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01:13:04,572 --> 01:13:07,492
Speaker 12: a parent, I believe I've got a responsibility to pay

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01:13:07,492 --> 01:13:10,532
Speaker 12: for your education. So here's the deal, I said, you

1444
01:13:10,572 --> 01:13:13,532
Speaker 12: get an education, you pass your qualifications, you don't get

1445
01:13:13,692 --> 01:13:15,692
Speaker 12: if you don't get a half. If you get half

1446
01:13:15,692 --> 01:13:18,652
Speaker 12: a qualification, then you don't register for this scheme. You

1447
01:13:19,093 --> 01:13:21,652
Speaker 12: get an education and you pass, and then you pay

1448
01:13:21,652 --> 01:13:25,293
Speaker 12: off your student loan through your twelve percent per month

1449
01:13:25,372 --> 01:13:27,972
Speaker 12: or whatever it is. And when you paid it off,

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01:13:28,133 --> 01:13:30,412
Speaker 12: I'll give you the money because I believe that I

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01:13:30,572 --> 01:13:32,133
Speaker 12: had this responsibility.

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Speaker 4: So what that did.

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01:13:33,893 --> 01:13:35,932
Speaker 12: It proved to them where money came from. They had

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01:13:35,933 --> 01:13:38,692
Speaker 12: a debt, they paid it off, and I gave them

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01:13:38,692 --> 01:13:41,092
Speaker 12: a lump sum, which was a large amount.

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Speaker 8: It was.

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Speaker 12: The smallest one was forty thousand dollars. And so they

1458
01:13:46,532 --> 01:13:49,892
Speaker 12: then had a forty thousand dollar saving essentially to put

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01:13:49,973 --> 01:13:51,812
Speaker 12: towards their first house. And I topped it up a

1460
01:13:51,853 --> 01:13:54,572
Speaker 12: bit to get them going. So I made them pay

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01:13:54,612 --> 01:13:57,732
Speaker 12: off the student loan, but I had this responsibility that

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01:13:57,732 --> 01:14:00,412
Speaker 12: I should pay for it. So basically I forced them

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01:14:00,412 --> 01:14:02,372
Speaker 12: into force saving it twelve percent per month.

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01:14:02,893 --> 01:14:05,173
Speaker 3: Wow, and they've all got the houses.

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01:14:05,372 --> 01:14:06,772
Speaker 2: Say how quickly did they pay it off?

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01:14:07,492 --> 01:14:07,652
Speaker 10: Oh?

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01:14:07,853 --> 01:14:09,772
Speaker 12: Just to say, right as you would if you had

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01:14:09,772 --> 01:14:11,692
Speaker 12: any job, a big student, or my son had a

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01:14:11,692 --> 01:14:14,133
Speaker 12: student learn bigger than ben hers, I said, so he

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01:14:14,173 --> 01:14:15,892
Speaker 12: hasn't paid it off yet, and he's in his early

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01:14:15,973 --> 01:14:16,972
Speaker 12: thirty right.

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01:14:16,853 --> 01:14:18,932
Speaker 2: Right, so he's still waiting for the payout from dad.

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01:14:19,213 --> 01:14:21,412
Speaker 12: So I mean I've given it to him already.

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01:14:21,452 --> 01:14:25,652
Speaker 2: Actually, Okay, So the other ones are like, hey, this

1475
01:14:25,772 --> 01:14:28,452
Speaker 2: wasn't a real threat from dad. So I mean, that's great.

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01:14:28,492 --> 01:14:30,973
Speaker 2: You're you're obviously cashed up to a certain extent, or

1477
01:14:30,973 --> 01:14:32,412
Speaker 2: did you sort of have some.

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01:14:32,492 --> 01:14:36,532
Speaker 12: Kid of I started saving money for their education when

1479
01:14:36,572 --> 01:14:39,333
Speaker 12: I was young with st Yeah, so I had. So

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01:14:39,372 --> 01:14:41,412
Speaker 12: I just went in a little bit when they when

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01:14:41,412 --> 01:14:43,732
Speaker 12: they were really young. But then I thought I could

1482
01:14:43,732 --> 01:14:45,772
Speaker 12: pay off their education. I thought, well, you know, what

1483
01:14:45,772 --> 01:14:47,412
Speaker 12: are they going to learn from that? But what they

1484
01:14:47,452 --> 01:14:50,092
Speaker 12: have learned is how to save money, And they saved

1485
01:14:50,173 --> 01:14:54,652
Speaker 12: forty thousand dollars and it worked out really well. They're

1486
01:14:54,692 --> 01:14:57,572
Speaker 12: now really good savers and they've got people, got houses,

1487
01:14:57,933 --> 01:14:59,532
Speaker 12: and it worked out really good.

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01:14:59,652 --> 01:15:01,253
Speaker 2: And the thirty year old will getting people.

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01:15:01,652 --> 01:15:03,572
Speaker 12: People have rung in and said, oh, like I wouldn't

1490
01:15:03,692 --> 01:15:05,372
Speaker 12: you know, student loans. I don't want my kids to

1491
01:15:05,372 --> 01:15:07,412
Speaker 12: have a debt. I'll help them out paying it off.

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01:15:07,452 --> 01:15:10,372
Speaker 12: But this scheme was better, I reckon because it was

1493
01:15:10,412 --> 01:15:13,812
Speaker 12: over time. You're borrowing the money interest free, so they're

1494
01:15:13,812 --> 01:15:16,053
Speaker 12: paying it off steadily and I've put some of the

1495
01:15:16,093 --> 01:15:17,892
Speaker 12: bank money in the bank, got interest on it. So

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01:15:18,173 --> 01:15:20,532
Speaker 12: it worked out very well for them, you know, and

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01:15:20,853 --> 01:15:21,093
Speaker 12: for me.

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01:15:21,372 --> 01:15:22,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you.

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01:15:22,372 --> 01:15:23,932
Speaker 3: Very good. Sounds like a smart plan.

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Speaker 2: Obviously not a possibility for everyone, No, not a lot

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01:15:27,853 --> 01:15:29,253
Speaker 2: of there's a lot of people that don't have that

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01:15:29,372 --> 01:15:31,053
Speaker 2: kind of cash floating around to help the kids out

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01:15:31,053 --> 01:15:31,412
Speaker 2: in that way.

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01:15:31,492 --> 01:15:34,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right. News is hot on our tail. We

1505
01:15:34,532 --> 01:15:37,093
Speaker 3: are going out with a bit more split ends on

1506
01:15:37,133 --> 01:15:39,812
Speaker 3: the back of the band reuniting and they're going to

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Speaker 3: play two more shows in New Zealand's the new Sport

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01:15:42,853 --> 01:15:44,812
Speaker 3: and Weather are coming up state Jude. We'll be back

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Speaker 3: very shortly.

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Speaker 1: Your home for in State folland Entertaining Talk. It's Matt

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Speaker 1: Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda on News Talks.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show six

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01:16:05,973 --> 01:16:10,092
Speaker 3: past three. So if there's a new shoe that gets

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01:16:10,133 --> 01:16:13,333
Speaker 3: more traction than the old humble boom in New Zealand,

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01:16:13,412 --> 01:16:15,973
Speaker 3: I can't think of too many topics and issues that

1516
01:16:16,133 --> 01:16:20,133
Speaker 3: get people very interested, very worked up, and very passionate.

1517
01:16:20,532 --> 01:16:23,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, booms are in the news and they're in my

1518
01:16:23,173 --> 01:16:26,253
Speaker 2: life because over the weekend I decided to go out

1519
01:16:26,293 --> 01:16:28,572
Speaker 2: and mow my berm, and then I looked over at

1520
01:16:28,572 --> 01:16:31,053
Speaker 2: my neighbor's burn, and look, I'm a big believer, and

1521
01:16:31,452 --> 01:16:35,612
Speaker 2: you know you shall not covet your neighbor's house wife

1522
01:16:35,692 --> 01:16:36,892
Speaker 2: or anything that is your neighbors.

1523
01:16:36,933 --> 01:16:38,173
Speaker 3: I'm glad I wasn't.

1524
01:16:38,333 --> 01:16:42,772
Speaker 2: So I wasn't coveting his berm or his wife or

1525
01:16:42,812 --> 01:16:45,213
Speaker 2: anything that was his. Okay, But I did notice that

1526
01:16:45,213 --> 01:16:48,012
Speaker 2: he had some tided edges on that berm. I thought,

1527
01:16:48,013 --> 01:16:51,732
Speaker 2: those are some tid edges, and so I underwent what

1528
01:16:52,253 --> 01:16:55,333
Speaker 2: was probably a four to five hour I got into

1529
01:16:55,333 --> 01:16:58,133
Speaker 2: a frenzy, frenzy of working on the hedge and a

1530
01:16:58,173 --> 01:17:02,333
Speaker 2: frenzy of taking the berms right back to off, so

1531
01:17:02,412 --> 01:17:04,612
Speaker 2: they go right back to the grass. Yep, because you

1532
01:17:04,612 --> 01:17:07,492
Speaker 2: get a lot of berm creep. Your berm is now

1533
01:17:07,692 --> 01:17:11,213
Speaker 2: over the years, and the foot path gets smaller and smaller,

1534
01:17:11,253 --> 01:17:14,772
Speaker 2: right yeah, And so you can be just a half

1535
01:17:14,853 --> 01:17:19,692
Speaker 2: ass kiwi who mows the berm such that it isn't

1536
01:17:19,732 --> 01:17:20,732
Speaker 2: some kind of big thicket.

1537
01:17:20,893 --> 01:17:21,093
Speaker 5: Yep.

1538
01:17:21,452 --> 01:17:24,253
Speaker 2: But that's not looking at that's not looking after your burn.

1539
01:17:24,612 --> 01:17:27,612
Speaker 2: That's weak source. You need to and bear and might

1540
01:17:27,652 --> 01:17:28,933
Speaker 2: have been that way for a very long time. And

1541
01:17:28,973 --> 01:17:31,732
Speaker 2: I've only just joined the tight berm club. But I

1542
01:17:31,772 --> 01:17:34,253
Speaker 2: believe now with all my heart that you need to

1543
01:17:34,293 --> 01:17:36,852
Speaker 2: take it right back so it's a straight line, so

1544
01:17:37,013 --> 01:17:39,652
Speaker 2: none of your grass and none of the dirt from

1545
01:17:39,692 --> 01:17:43,772
Speaker 2: your burm goes over into onto the pavement at all.

1546
01:17:44,133 --> 01:17:47,492
Speaker 2: It's a tight line. And that is a surprising amount

1547
01:17:47,492 --> 01:17:47,772
Speaker 2: of work.

1548
01:17:48,213 --> 01:17:51,572
Speaker 3: You showed me some photos before. It is some tight lines.

1549
01:17:51,973 --> 01:17:54,253
Speaker 3: But then you said, so it's been four to five

1550
01:17:54,293 --> 01:17:56,692
Speaker 3: hours on doing the work. It's looking pretty good.

1551
01:17:56,692 --> 01:17:58,772
Speaker 2: But I was more exhausted after that than I was

1552
01:17:58,812 --> 01:18:00,452
Speaker 2: after running a marathon last year.

1553
01:18:00,532 --> 01:18:02,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you said there's more week to do,

1554
01:18:02,213 --> 01:18:04,293
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at it and thinking, hey, that's tight.

1555
01:18:04,333 --> 01:18:06,213
Speaker 3: I don't know how you can get that any tighter.

1556
01:18:06,293 --> 01:18:08,652
Speaker 2: The thing is, you can get a tight berm. And

1557
01:18:09,692 --> 01:18:12,452
Speaker 2: but that's then you become a tight burm expert. Suddenly

1558
01:18:12,452 --> 01:18:14,932
Speaker 2: you're looking at it going there's always more you can do. Yeah,

1559
01:18:15,173 --> 01:18:17,852
Speaker 2: but I think I think that we've got weak berm

1560
01:18:17,893 --> 01:18:20,852
Speaker 2: activity in this country. And you'll drive down any street

1561
01:18:20,933 --> 01:18:24,572
Speaker 2: and there are the absolute retrobates that don't do anything

1562
01:18:24,572 --> 01:18:24,892
Speaker 2: on their.

1563
01:18:24,812 --> 01:18:26,852
Speaker 3: Birms oh yeah, yeah, there's a lot of those people, but.

1564
01:18:27,133 --> 01:18:29,173
Speaker 2: We don't care about them. They aren't even worth talking about.

1565
01:18:29,492 --> 01:18:32,652
Speaker 3: So it's your arguments, your how you're viewed in your

1566
01:18:32,652 --> 01:18:35,133
Speaker 3: community and your neighborhood. It's got to rest more on

1567
01:18:35,173 --> 01:18:38,053
Speaker 3: your boom than your actual garden yourself, because I put

1568
01:18:38,093 --> 01:18:39,732
Speaker 3: a lot of work into the garden where we're living

1569
01:18:39,732 --> 01:18:42,053
Speaker 3: at the stuff. Yeah, I go hard on that.

1570
01:18:42,133 --> 01:18:43,012
Speaker 2: No one else can enjoy.

1571
01:18:43,053 --> 01:18:45,732
Speaker 3: That booms an afterthought after I do the main garden,

1572
01:18:45,732 --> 01:18:47,293
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, oh, there's still some gas in

1573
01:18:47,333 --> 01:18:49,973
Speaker 3: this lawma oh yeah, better go do the berm and

1574
01:18:49,372 --> 01:18:52,772
Speaker 3: I just drop it right down. So it's pretty much

1575
01:18:53,053 --> 01:18:55,732
Speaker 3: just within an inch of its life. But you say,

1576
01:18:55,853 --> 01:18:59,572
Speaker 3: get better because people are judging me on my particular It's.

1577
01:18:59,492 --> 01:19:01,812
Speaker 2: Not about whether you're judged to what people think. It's

1578
01:19:01,812 --> 01:19:03,692
Speaker 2: about the quality of the neighborhood and it's about the

1579
01:19:03,732 --> 01:19:06,933
Speaker 2: experience of people walking down that street. So you know,

1580
01:19:06,973 --> 01:19:11,892
Speaker 2: everyone knows that a beautiful neighborhood brings joy. So you

1581
01:19:11,973 --> 01:19:14,852
Speaker 2: have this one responsibility out the front of your house,

1582
01:19:14,933 --> 01:19:17,452
Speaker 2: and it's your burn, right, Okay, so why not make

1583
01:19:17,492 --> 01:19:20,732
Speaker 2: the tightest, sweetest lines you possibly can. So when someone

1584
01:19:20,772 --> 01:19:23,932
Speaker 2: walks past that period that takes to walk past your house,

1585
01:19:24,053 --> 01:19:26,772
Speaker 2: you know, whatever sixty seconds or whatever it takes to

1586
01:19:26,772 --> 01:19:31,253
Speaker 2: walk past your house. Wait, that's a long house. The

1587
01:19:31,293 --> 01:19:34,173
Speaker 2: four seconds it takes to walk past your house. Yeah,

1588
01:19:35,053 --> 01:19:38,492
Speaker 2: they experience just some tight burms, and they just feel

1589
01:19:38,532 --> 01:19:40,572
Speaker 2: like there's someone that cares in the neighborhood and that

1590
01:19:40,692 --> 01:19:43,492
Speaker 2: civilization is holding it together. It's a statement. It's not

1591
01:19:43,532 --> 01:19:47,053
Speaker 2: so much of how I'm perceived in the neighborhood. It's

1592
01:19:47,133 --> 01:19:51,372
Speaker 2: it's what I pump back into the neighborhood. So I think,

1593
01:19:51,412 --> 01:19:53,532
Speaker 2: I think it's your duty as a citizen, and I

1594
01:19:53,572 --> 01:19:55,173
Speaker 2: know people are going to go, well, the council doesn't

1595
01:19:55,173 --> 01:19:57,052
Speaker 2: look after them, said, who cares?

1596
01:19:57,853 --> 01:19:58,053
Speaker 8: You know?

1597
01:19:58,173 --> 01:20:00,052
Speaker 2: Do you get the council to come in and wipe

1598
01:20:00,093 --> 01:20:04,932
Speaker 2: your butt after you've been to the toilet? No, deemed

1599
01:20:04,973 --> 01:20:08,293
Speaker 2: your responsibility. And so you you you run a tight operation.

1600
01:20:08,452 --> 01:20:11,732
Speaker 3: Now there, as I say, are you hoping that just

1601
01:20:11,772 --> 01:20:13,933
Speaker 3: one day you might be out in the front of

1602
01:20:13,933 --> 01:20:15,973
Speaker 3: your house and people will walk by and they'll just

1603
01:20:16,053 --> 01:20:19,652
Speaker 3: mutter to one another. It's a beautiful berm. That's the

1604
01:20:19,732 --> 01:20:20,253
Speaker 3: ultimate right.

1605
01:20:20,293 --> 01:20:21,053
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hate that.

1606
01:20:21,133 --> 01:20:22,892
Speaker 3: Yep, that would be a nice start but I'm.

1607
01:20:22,732 --> 01:20:25,253
Speaker 2: Not going to hide amongst the hedge waiting to hear it.

1608
01:20:26,253 --> 01:20:28,412
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty t and eighty is the

1609
01:20:28,532 --> 01:20:30,372
Speaker 3: number to call. So are you like Matt that you

1610
01:20:30,492 --> 01:20:32,933
Speaker 3: may maybe thought about the boomers an after thought. You

1611
01:20:33,053 --> 01:20:36,173
Speaker 3: kept it short, but now you're on the train that

1612
01:20:36,213 --> 01:20:38,812
Speaker 3: has got to be tight, tight lines, look after your

1613
01:20:38,812 --> 01:20:39,972
Speaker 3: boom above all house.

1614
01:20:39,893 --> 01:20:42,492
Speaker 2: We're looking for New Zealand's next top tight berm.

1615
01:20:42,853 --> 01:20:45,372
Speaker 3: Hey cap on through, share your story. I eight hundred

1616
01:20:45,412 --> 01:20:48,173
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty and the text is nine to nine

1617
01:20:48,213 --> 01:20:50,692
Speaker 3: till it is eleven path three. News Talk said, be

1618
01:20:51,253 --> 01:20:53,772
Speaker 3: fourteen past three. Cement's on a mission to find the

1619
01:20:53,812 --> 01:20:57,452
Speaker 3: tightest boom in New Zealand. Avet's you. I eight hundred

1620
01:20:57,452 --> 01:20:59,533
Speaker 3: at eighty ten and eighty? How tights you burm?

1621
01:21:00,333 --> 01:21:02,572
Speaker 2: How tight's my boom? My tip boom is very tight?

1622
01:21:02,692 --> 01:21:05,133
Speaker 2: The stick says rubbish. No one cares about burms. You're

1623
01:21:05,173 --> 01:21:09,412
Speaker 2: on the spectrum. Uh what spectrum? The berm spectrum? Tight

1624
01:21:09,532 --> 01:21:11,653
Speaker 2: edges don't make the world a bit of place, narcissist

1625
01:21:11,692 --> 01:21:15,693
Speaker 2: much saving the world with a boom? Come on, I disagree.

1626
01:21:16,133 --> 01:21:18,173
Speaker 2: I think. I think if you're walking your dog down

1627
01:21:18,213 --> 01:21:21,092
Speaker 2: the street, I think a tight burm, some tight edges

1628
01:21:21,093 --> 01:21:23,692
Speaker 2: on the road can bring a lot of joy and

1629
01:21:23,732 --> 01:21:25,812
Speaker 2: plus I think there's a joy in doing it. I

1630
01:21:25,853 --> 01:21:28,692
Speaker 2: got feverish when I was doing it. I mean, if

1631
01:21:28,853 --> 01:21:31,093
Speaker 2: my twenty year old's south had seen me out there

1632
01:21:31,133 --> 01:21:34,053
Speaker 2: feverishly punishing that burm, he probably would have thought I

1633
01:21:34,053 --> 01:21:34,612
Speaker 2: was a mental case.

1634
01:21:34,652 --> 01:21:36,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, yep, yep, it's fair.

1635
01:21:36,412 --> 01:21:38,812
Speaker 2: But now I just get so I got it was

1636
01:21:38,893 --> 01:21:41,213
Speaker 2: five hours just I had a big smile on my face.

1637
01:21:41,253 --> 01:21:43,692
Speaker 2: I was loving it. Yeah, even though my edge trumor

1638
01:21:43,812 --> 01:21:46,532
Speaker 2: it's not like the bloody scrub cutters that we used

1639
01:21:46,532 --> 01:21:48,652
Speaker 2: to have on the fhart that edge coad. I was

1640
01:21:48,692 --> 01:21:51,972
Speaker 2: having to replace that string constantly. That string was last

1641
01:21:51,973 --> 01:21:53,133
Speaker 2: thing a few seconds at a time.

1642
01:21:53,812 --> 01:21:55,452
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty and eighties and number to

1643
01:21:55,452 --> 01:21:58,412
Speaker 3: call get a kniil good guys.

1644
01:21:58,732 --> 01:22:02,372
Speaker 9: Yeah, love a good looking boom. Next door neighbor and

1645
01:22:02,372 --> 01:22:04,213
Speaker 9: I've been nervous for years and years. So we take

1646
01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:08,013
Speaker 9: turns of doing the whole boom. I've got a conception

1647
01:22:08,173 --> 01:22:11,013
Speaker 9: and he's got a big section on the road, So

1648
01:22:11,053 --> 01:22:12,852
Speaker 9: we do that, take turns and we do the hedge

1649
01:22:12,853 --> 01:22:14,412
Speaker 9: in the front as well. We take turns of that.

1650
01:22:14,492 --> 01:22:16,052
Speaker 8: So we've we've got.

1651
01:22:15,933 --> 01:22:18,253
Speaker 9: A good relationship going a lot of places now with

1652
01:22:18,333 --> 01:22:23,012
Speaker 9: the in for health and info. Housing and townhouses. Yeah,

1653
01:22:23,333 --> 01:22:26,133
Speaker 9: you don't. Actually, you know, you might have six six

1654
01:22:26,173 --> 01:22:29,013
Speaker 9: places where there was one. So no one's taking care

1655
01:22:29,013 --> 01:22:31,173
Speaker 9: of that boom because they're not actually it's not you know,

1656
01:22:31,213 --> 01:22:32,812
Speaker 9: they don't think it's part of where they live.

1657
01:22:32,973 --> 01:22:34,852
Speaker 2: The body courts should take care of that boom out

1658
01:22:34,893 --> 01:22:37,652
Speaker 2: the front right off that well, you'd think.

1659
01:22:37,612 --> 01:22:40,452
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, but again it comes back to you know,

1660
01:22:40,492 --> 01:22:43,492
Speaker 9: the body corp. No, that's council, that's not our responsibility.

1661
01:22:44,093 --> 01:22:46,812
Speaker 9: But also I think a lot of people, particularly immigrants,

1662
01:22:46,853 --> 01:22:49,652
Speaker 9: have never seen a lawnmow. You know, they've never what's

1663
01:22:49,652 --> 01:22:51,492
Speaker 9: the lawnmow? What do you do with that type of thing?

1664
01:22:52,173 --> 01:22:54,333
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. They've come from countries where

1665
01:22:54,333 --> 01:22:58,012
Speaker 9: you don't use the lawnmowers because it's so dry, for example.

1666
01:22:58,572 --> 01:23:00,452
Speaker 9: So yeah, they don't know nothing it's done about it.

1667
01:23:00,532 --> 01:23:05,293
Speaker 9: You might see someone occasionally, someone with this is out there.

1668
01:23:08,572 --> 01:23:11,412
Speaker 2: That I could get to that state because I was.

1669
01:23:11,572 --> 01:23:13,452
Speaker 2: I was actually down on my hands and knees at

1670
01:23:13,452 --> 01:23:15,892
Speaker 2: one point. Neil on the weekend with the hedge clippers

1671
01:23:16,412 --> 01:23:19,692
Speaker 2: just trying to get it back because the the edge

1672
01:23:19,692 --> 01:23:22,253
Speaker 2: trumm wasn't didn't have wasn't powerful enough to cut through

1673
01:23:22,293 --> 01:23:22,932
Speaker 2: the dirt as well.

1674
01:23:23,372 --> 01:23:26,053
Speaker 9: It's a good line from a good line from us.

1675
01:23:26,053 --> 01:23:28,253
Speaker 9: So the three hours a line from a leaf blower

1676
01:23:28,333 --> 01:23:31,933
Speaker 9: and lawnmower, those three in combination gives you a beautiful

1677
01:23:31,933 --> 01:23:32,652
Speaker 9: bird with.

1678
01:23:32,812 --> 01:23:34,532
Speaker 2: The leaves going with the leaf blower, though, neil, are

1679
01:23:34,532 --> 01:23:36,732
Speaker 2: they not? You're not blowing them down street.

1680
01:23:36,853 --> 01:23:38,932
Speaker 9: Back on your You do your line from me, then

1681
01:23:38,973 --> 01:23:41,013
Speaker 9: you use your leaf blow the black to blow it

1682
01:23:41,133 --> 01:23:42,212
Speaker 9: back onto the grass.

1683
01:23:42,532 --> 01:23:46,853
Speaker 2: Then you over yeah, right, so then that's smart. Yeah,

1684
01:23:46,973 --> 01:23:47,333
Speaker 2: Or you.

1685
01:23:47,293 --> 01:23:49,412
Speaker 9: Could be lazy and blowed all onto the road. But

1686
01:23:49,492 --> 01:23:50,772
Speaker 9: that doesn't look very nice, does it.

1687
01:23:50,893 --> 01:23:52,892
Speaker 2: I had so many tools out on the on the

1688
01:23:53,013 --> 01:23:55,452
Speaker 2: on the street that basically people couldn't get past. But

1689
01:23:55,492 --> 01:23:58,293
Speaker 2: the amount of the amount of stuff I had out

1690
01:23:58,293 --> 01:24:00,893
Speaker 2: there working on my my berm in the weekend.

1691
01:24:01,452 --> 01:24:04,812
Speaker 3: People have cones health and safety.

1692
01:24:04,933 --> 01:24:07,173
Speaker 2: It was a major work. But good on you, and

1693
01:24:07,213 --> 01:24:10,532
Speaker 2: so do you You you and your neighbor compete like so,

1694
01:24:10,732 --> 01:24:13,532
Speaker 2: is there a standard standard standard?

1695
01:24:13,893 --> 01:24:15,372
Speaker 9: No? No, we just stand it.

1696
01:24:15,412 --> 01:24:15,612
Speaker 10: You know.

1697
01:24:15,933 --> 01:24:18,572
Speaker 9: It looks the same regardless of who does it so?

1698
01:24:18,853 --> 01:24:21,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Because I remember when I was a kid,

1699
01:24:21,293 --> 01:24:23,892
Speaker 2: I'd mow the lawns. We had huge lawns at the house,

1700
01:24:24,173 --> 01:24:27,492
Speaker 2: massive like two wakes. And then I'd sit down at

1701
01:24:27,492 --> 01:24:29,013
Speaker 2: dinner and my dad will go, I see you mow

1702
01:24:29,093 --> 01:24:31,372
Speaker 2: the lawn and I said yep, and he goes, I

1703
01:24:31,372 --> 01:24:35,253
Speaker 2: don't like those edges. Yeah, it'd always judge the edges.

1704
01:24:35,412 --> 01:24:37,812
Speaker 2: It's like what I mean, I've been moaning for two

1705
01:24:37,812 --> 01:24:38,253
Speaker 2: hours dead.

1706
01:24:38,253 --> 01:24:39,492
Speaker 3: If you're going to do a job, you gotta do

1707
01:24:39,532 --> 01:24:39,772
Speaker 3: it right.

1708
01:24:39,853 --> 01:24:41,253
Speaker 2: I don't want to get off from ore the edges.

1709
01:24:42,013 --> 01:24:44,253
Speaker 3: Neil, thank you very much. I one hundred and eighty

1710
01:24:44,293 --> 01:24:46,892
Speaker 3: ten eighty Are you like Neil? Are you all about

1711
01:24:46,893 --> 01:24:49,612
Speaker 3: these tight booms? Nine two ninety two is the text

1712
01:24:49,732 --> 01:24:53,012
Speaker 3: as well. We'll get to a few of those very shortly.

1713
01:24:53,093 --> 01:24:55,253
Speaker 3: But keen on your story. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

1714
01:24:55,412 --> 01:24:58,892
Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call? It is eighteen past three.

1715
01:24:59,013 --> 01:25:01,213
Speaker 2: Tight burm is a must, I agree. Guy gives the

1716
01:25:01,213 --> 01:25:03,093
Speaker 2: people a hunting to how you maintain the rest of

1717
01:25:03,133 --> 01:25:06,612
Speaker 2: your property? Love It sounds like euphemism. Now out something.

1718
01:25:06,412 --> 01:25:14,092
Speaker 1: Else, madd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call, oh, eight hundred

1719
01:25:14,173 --> 01:25:16,292
Speaker 1: eighty eighty on news Talk ZB.

1720
01:25:16,293 --> 01:25:18,293
Speaker 3: Twenty one past three. So how important is it to

1721
01:25:18,333 --> 01:25:22,452
Speaker 3: have a tight berm outside your property? She your story?

1722
01:25:22,452 --> 01:25:24,093
Speaker 3: I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

1723
01:25:24,093 --> 01:25:27,333
Speaker 3: to call? Von you reckon? You got the best berm?

1724
01:25:28,492 --> 01:25:29,732
Speaker 5: I absolutely do.

1725
01:25:30,013 --> 01:25:32,972
Speaker 19: I've got the best one in what I'm in christ Church,

1726
01:25:33,133 --> 01:25:37,173
Speaker 19: best in New Zealand, best ever never ever encroaches on

1727
01:25:37,293 --> 01:25:41,452
Speaker 19: the footpath or anything like that. Good built a new

1728
01:25:41,532 --> 01:25:46,812
Speaker 19: house and had to supply a gardening plan to the

1729
01:25:47,013 --> 01:25:50,973
Speaker 19: local council, and I said to them, all, what do

1730
01:25:51,053 --> 01:25:54,013
Speaker 19: I do about my berm? Because I'm going to be

1731
01:25:54,053 --> 01:25:59,532
Speaker 19: having artificial grass as a pensioner, a seventy five year

1732
01:25:59,532 --> 01:26:06,532
Speaker 19: old pensioner ridden with arthritis in my knee. And my

1733
01:26:06,692 --> 01:26:09,772
Speaker 19: reply was, oh, you just like the rest of your lawn.

1734
01:26:10,612 --> 01:26:13,732
Speaker 19: I said, you're forgetting. I just told you I'm having

1735
01:26:13,933 --> 01:26:18,652
Speaker 19: artificial grass, and I don't intend to buy a lawn

1736
01:26:18,772 --> 01:26:23,692
Speaker 19: mower to cut fifteen meters of my section because it's

1737
01:26:23,853 --> 01:26:25,892
Speaker 19: a boom that isn't even mine.

1738
01:26:26,492 --> 01:26:27,013
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1739
01:26:27,093 --> 01:26:28,892
Speaker 19: So they said, oh, well, in that case, you get

1740
01:26:28,933 --> 01:26:34,372
Speaker 19: yourself put on a mowing register. Well after yep, they

1741
01:26:34,492 --> 01:26:37,812
Speaker 19: evidently the council will come around twelve times a year

1742
01:26:37,893 --> 01:26:42,293
Speaker 19: and mow you boom. Well, after two years of sending

1743
01:26:42,893 --> 01:26:48,412
Speaker 19: snap send soul notifications to the local council every time

1744
01:26:48,532 --> 01:26:52,372
Speaker 19: the grass got up above my waist, I decided I

1745
01:26:52,452 --> 01:26:56,213
Speaker 19: wasn't going to have any more of that and notified them.

1746
01:26:56,412 --> 01:27:01,253
Speaker 19: Had their person that was in charge of roadside landscaping

1747
01:27:01,372 --> 01:27:04,732
Speaker 19: come round admit to me that it wasn't even decent,

1748
01:27:04,893 --> 01:27:10,053
Speaker 19: proper grass. It was just meadow that had grown, and

1749
01:27:10,253 --> 01:27:14,372
Speaker 19: they said they would be replacing it, and that never happened.

1750
01:27:14,652 --> 01:27:18,133
Speaker 19: So I decided to go ahead and I got someone

1751
01:27:18,173 --> 01:27:21,412
Speaker 19: in to come and put artificial grass. Never looked to make.

1752
01:27:21,333 --> 01:27:22,812
Speaker 2: God, you're running an artificial burn?

1753
01:27:24,053 --> 01:27:24,412
Speaker 1: Yes?

1754
01:27:24,933 --> 01:27:25,333
Speaker 3: Wow?

1755
01:27:25,492 --> 01:27:28,612
Speaker 2: Wow? Does what? What what happens when you know dogs

1756
01:27:28,692 --> 01:27:28,973
Speaker 2: use it?

1757
01:27:30,772 --> 01:27:31,253
Speaker 19: They don't?

1758
01:27:31,532 --> 01:27:32,173
Speaker 2: They don't use it?

1759
01:27:32,173 --> 01:27:37,053
Speaker 3: Okay, right like a lot of people. He's going on here.

1760
01:27:37,452 --> 01:27:38,333
Speaker 2: I think it's scarpet.

1761
01:27:39,452 --> 01:27:42,012
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean I tried working with counsel. I said, oh,

1762
01:27:42,213 --> 01:27:46,492
Speaker 19: could I put back on there instead of you know, grass?

1763
01:27:46,532 --> 01:27:48,812
Speaker 19: Because I was looking for a cheap folks. You know,

1764
01:27:48,893 --> 01:27:51,293
Speaker 19: what can I do to make it at least presentable?

1765
01:27:51,293 --> 01:27:54,372
Speaker 19: But when the hemlocks growing up to your waist tight

1766
01:27:54,812 --> 01:27:57,333
Speaker 19: in the summertime. It's like, I'm not going to sit

1767
01:27:57,372 --> 01:27:59,333
Speaker 19: around and have to watch and look at that.

1768
01:28:00,133 --> 01:28:04,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, artificial turf on the berm. I mean, I

1769
01:28:04,133 --> 01:28:08,013
Speaker 2: don't think that can win New Zealand's tightest burn. I

1770
01:28:08,053 --> 01:28:11,532
Speaker 2: feel that's juicing. I feel like that's like taking roids

1771
01:28:11,532 --> 01:28:12,212
Speaker 2: in the Olympics.

1772
01:28:12,293 --> 01:28:14,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels a bit like that, man, because I.

1773
01:28:14,093 --> 01:28:17,772
Speaker 2: Mean, I'm like an astrue to if my my berm.

1774
01:28:17,973 --> 01:28:20,612
Speaker 2: And then but then again, you'd still you know, nature

1775
01:28:20,652 --> 01:28:22,652
Speaker 2: will find a way. It'll creep out the side. You'll

1776
01:28:22,652 --> 01:28:23,692
Speaker 2: get creepers out the side.

1777
01:28:23,732 --> 01:28:26,093
Speaker 3: There's no stopping weeds. They are unrelentless.

1778
01:28:26,772 --> 01:28:30,652
Speaker 2: This text says, oh, you guys, you're always self promoting. Well,

1779
01:28:30,692 --> 01:28:33,412
Speaker 2: when if you saw my berm text, you'd be promoting

1780
01:28:33,452 --> 01:28:35,692
Speaker 2: for me. Give us a subject with teeth. A lot

1781
01:28:35,692 --> 01:28:38,772
Speaker 2: of us live in apartments. You are obviously running out

1782
01:28:38,772 --> 01:28:40,892
Speaker 2: of subjects. It's so boring. Wise, get out if you

1783
01:28:40,933 --> 01:28:43,652
Speaker 2: live an apartment, get out and volunteer on someone else's berm.

1784
01:28:43,692 --> 01:28:47,972
Speaker 2: You lazy, lazy Louise. Just because you're an apartment doesn't

1785
01:28:47,973 --> 01:28:50,612
Speaker 2: mean there's berms. Yeah, berm lives matter. Get out there

1786
01:28:50,612 --> 01:28:50,932
Speaker 2: in health.

1787
01:28:51,013 --> 01:28:54,532
Speaker 3: There's berms outside of apartments. Absolutely. Oh, one hundred and

1788
01:28:54,532 --> 01:28:56,372
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number of coll Plenty of

1789
01:28:56,412 --> 01:28:57,812
Speaker 3: texts coming through A nine two niney two.

1790
01:28:57,973 --> 01:29:00,572
Speaker 2: Love your talk back. I've always taken good care of

1791
01:29:00,692 --> 01:29:03,132
Speaker 2: the frontage and my properties. I've always done my edges

1792
01:29:03,213 --> 01:29:05,572
Speaker 2: on the footpaths and swept up after me. Always looks

1793
01:29:05,652 --> 01:29:09,532
Speaker 2: amazing and very tidy. Cheers and be like, yeah, that

1794
01:29:09,612 --> 01:29:11,532
Speaker 2: is what we're talking about. Don't be like Louise is

1795
01:29:11,612 --> 01:29:14,173
Speaker 2: sitting in an apartment just letting birms grow wild all

1796
01:29:14,173 --> 01:29:15,653
Speaker 2: over the neighborhood and not helping.

1797
01:29:15,412 --> 01:29:18,973
Speaker 3: Out some ki we How are you?

1798
01:29:19,973 --> 01:29:24,333
Speaker 10: Shifted into cambers about thirty years ago, and my front

1799
01:29:24,372 --> 01:29:27,333
Speaker 10: boom was low and mun corner full of weeds and

1800
01:29:27,412 --> 01:29:30,572
Speaker 10: et cetera, cetera. So I said about leveling and putting

1801
01:29:30,652 --> 01:29:33,612
Speaker 10: them like drainage, and then I founded it in red

1802
01:29:33,692 --> 01:29:37,932
Speaker 10: fescue fisk you yeah, And I put a lovely fine

1803
01:29:37,973 --> 01:29:40,612
Speaker 10: fescue lawn in there, and people used to travel around

1804
01:29:40,612 --> 01:29:41,452
Speaker 10: to have a look at it.

1805
01:29:42,492 --> 01:29:45,333
Speaker 2: Wow, So so is a fisc you very It's very.

1806
01:29:45,133 --> 01:29:49,053
Speaker 10: Green, right, It's a lovely green with a hint of red,

1807
01:29:49,293 --> 01:29:51,333
Speaker 10: and it's a very fine.

1808
01:29:52,093 --> 01:29:53,172
Speaker 2: Put a red fisk.

1809
01:29:53,013 --> 01:29:57,973
Speaker 10: You yeah, the other fish is quite coarse, right, and

1810
01:29:59,133 --> 01:30:02,572
Speaker 10: an ice garden up the drive with standard iceberg roads

1811
01:30:04,093 --> 01:30:05,772
Speaker 10: in November of an absolute picture.

1812
01:30:06,412 --> 01:30:08,013
Speaker 2: How do you stop the other ones coming through like

1813
01:30:08,053 --> 01:30:11,372
Speaker 2: you did? Kaikoua. Are you happen to tend that all

1814
01:30:11,372 --> 01:30:13,173
Speaker 2: the time? You've got to manage that right that. This

1815
01:30:13,293 --> 01:30:15,532
Speaker 2: is taking it to another level. So it's one thing

1816
01:30:15,572 --> 01:30:17,652
Speaker 2: to be getting some tight edges on your boom. It's

1817
01:30:17,652 --> 01:30:19,932
Speaker 2: another thing to be curating exactly the type of grass

1818
01:30:19,973 --> 01:30:20,692
Speaker 2: that grows on there.

1819
01:30:21,652 --> 01:30:25,133
Speaker 10: Well, I think it depends on my level of commitments.

1820
01:30:25,213 --> 01:30:27,532
Speaker 10: And I was going to commit to a tight boom.

1821
01:30:27,572 --> 01:30:30,492
Speaker 10: I wanted to give it to a boom that looked nice.

1822
01:30:30,532 --> 01:30:32,372
Speaker 3: Yep, good on your tuckle, like your style.

1823
01:30:33,732 --> 01:30:36,132
Speaker 2: Man, I'm a mowing contractor. Now you have your boom

1824
01:30:36,213 --> 01:30:38,412
Speaker 2: edges back to where they should be. As long as

1825
01:30:38,412 --> 01:30:41,053
Speaker 2: you keep them trimmed back every time you mow, it

1826
01:30:41,093 --> 01:30:44,012
Speaker 2: will be quick and easy to keep them looking good. Also,

1827
01:30:44,133 --> 01:30:46,253
Speaker 2: it takes a couple of times trimming after a major

1828
01:30:46,293 --> 01:30:49,372
Speaker 2: cutback for the edges to look really good. That's thanks, Curtis.

1829
01:30:49,732 --> 01:30:52,532
Speaker 2: It's good to know because you know, as I said before,

1830
01:30:52,532 --> 01:30:54,452
Speaker 2: I was down on my knees with the hedge clippers,

1831
01:30:54,532 --> 01:30:56,532
Speaker 2: I had spades out, I had so many tools out

1832
01:30:56,572 --> 01:31:00,172
Speaker 2: on the street. It was it was blocking traffic essentially,

1833
01:31:00,412 --> 01:31:03,052
Speaker 2: and plus my new edge trimmer that I went to buy,

1834
01:31:03,293 --> 01:31:06,412
Speaker 2: I was just going through the nylon cord like nothing else.

1835
01:31:06,452 --> 01:31:09,012
Speaker 2: It's basically getting I reckon getting a met each time

1836
01:31:09,053 --> 01:31:10,293
Speaker 2: before I had to replace the cord.

1837
01:31:10,412 --> 01:31:12,732
Speaker 3: That's not efficient, that's not affishent at all. But it's

1838
01:31:12,732 --> 01:31:15,652
Speaker 3: hard though, because you're heading the obviously the pavement that's

1839
01:31:15,692 --> 01:31:18,452
Speaker 3: taken off your cord, but someone has ticks through because

1840
01:31:18,532 --> 01:31:21,293
Speaker 3: you questioned the ticks and I've just oh, here we go.

1841
01:31:21,412 --> 01:31:23,652
Speaker 3: You need to go with a e Royobi battery powered

1842
01:31:23,853 --> 01:31:26,772
Speaker 3: edger to go next level booms Mate. Since going down

1843
01:31:26,812 --> 01:31:30,612
Speaker 3: that track, two other neighbors have followed. Work smarter, not harder.

1844
01:31:30,973 --> 01:31:33,093
Speaker 2: Darryl. See, I've just looked up this because you know,

1845
01:31:33,133 --> 01:31:37,412
Speaker 2: I'm running the roob, but the edge trummer, but the iedger,

1846
01:31:37,853 --> 01:31:40,092
Speaker 2: So that's actually cutting you a tight line.

1847
01:31:40,293 --> 01:31:41,173
Speaker 3: That is very tight.

1848
01:31:41,293 --> 01:31:41,532
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1849
01:31:41,572 --> 01:31:42,732
Speaker 3: I mean what you need to.

1850
01:31:42,692 --> 01:31:44,412
Speaker 2: Do is go into a co op with a bunch

1851
01:31:44,412 --> 01:31:46,532
Speaker 2: of neighbors and get all the tools because you're not

1852
01:31:46,572 --> 01:31:48,612
Speaker 2: all doing it at the same time. So if you

1853
01:31:48,612 --> 01:31:50,812
Speaker 2: could go into co op. You buy an edge, I'll

1854
01:31:50,812 --> 01:31:54,893
Speaker 2: buy a trimmer. Yep, you know, you get some red fiscue.

1855
01:31:55,532 --> 01:31:58,973
Speaker 2: It's all work together to make the greatest, you know,

1856
01:31:59,013 --> 01:32:00,772
Speaker 2: neighborhood in the world. And you know, like one of

1857
01:32:00,812 --> 01:32:03,973
Speaker 2: those Tim Burton movies where you see.

1858
01:32:04,053 --> 01:32:07,412
Speaker 3: Every house looking regiment to tell how good? Oh one

1859
01:32:07,452 --> 01:32:10,333
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten is the number to call? How

1860
01:32:10,372 --> 01:32:12,532
Speaker 3: tight is your boom? Love to hear from you? Nine

1861
01:32:12,532 --> 01:32:15,612
Speaker 3: to ninety two is the text as well. We'll go

1862
01:32:15,692 --> 01:32:19,652
Speaker 3: to Dan get a Dan. Hey are good?

1863
01:32:20,173 --> 01:32:22,652
Speaker 2: So you're on the AstroTurf boom bars as well?

1864
01:32:24,612 --> 01:32:26,693
Speaker 14: Oh no, not myself personally.

1865
01:32:26,853 --> 01:32:29,372
Speaker 20: I've just seen one and rate it quite highly.

1866
01:32:29,812 --> 01:32:31,852
Speaker 16: My booms tight like a tiger myself.

1867
01:32:32,372 --> 01:32:35,772
Speaker 20: Then I saw an astro turf one and I thought,

1868
01:32:36,253 --> 01:32:38,692
Speaker 20: I heard you dog in it, And I thought, until

1869
01:32:38,732 --> 01:32:43,892
Speaker 20: you actually quite tidy, And I think I would enjoy

1870
01:32:43,893 --> 01:32:44,613
Speaker 20: it myself.

1871
01:32:44,692 --> 01:32:47,093
Speaker 2: But do you have to go and vacuum it if

1872
01:32:47,093 --> 01:32:49,333
Speaker 2: you've got If you've got an AstroTurf berm, is that

1873
01:32:49,452 --> 01:32:51,532
Speaker 2: a that? Do you treat it like a carpet one?

1874
01:32:51,612 --> 01:32:52,093
Speaker 14: I saw?

1875
01:32:54,492 --> 01:32:58,732
Speaker 2: Oh no, he's taken down by a big lawnmark.

1876
01:32:58,772 --> 01:33:04,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was a limit that doesn't leave. You've

1877
01:33:04,732 --> 01:33:11,293
Speaker 3: been intercepted by real lawn theres like that're blocking your signal.

1878
01:33:11,853 --> 01:33:13,612
Speaker 3: We might try and come back to your mates because

1879
01:33:13,652 --> 01:33:15,972
Speaker 3: we want to hear more. But keen on your story.

1880
01:33:16,013 --> 01:33:18,412
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call,

1881
01:33:18,452 --> 01:33:20,452
Speaker 3: and there's some great teas coming through on nine two,

1882
01:33:20,732 --> 01:33:21,253
Speaker 3: nine to two.

1883
01:33:21,492 --> 01:33:24,253
Speaker 2: Always trim My burm makes the tree train look bigger.

1884
01:33:24,293 --> 01:33:26,892
Speaker 2: It's interesting. Nice. Thank you for sharing good strategy.

1885
01:33:26,933 --> 01:33:29,932
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1886
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01:34:54,812 --> 01:34:57,652
Speaker 3: Tyler Adams, thank you very much, Raylan. We are talking

1908
01:34:57,652 --> 01:35:00,492
Speaker 3: about type booms. I just want to address this text

1909
01:35:00,532 --> 01:35:02,532
Speaker 3: and there's been a couple that have come through HI

1910
01:35:02,772 --> 01:35:06,372
Speaker 3: regarding berms on sick to death of type BOMs. There

1911
01:35:06,492 --> 01:35:09,293
Speaker 3: must be better subjects like I don't know, so a war.

1912
01:35:09,492 --> 01:35:12,812
Speaker 3: Perhaps that's from Jeff, I say Jeff. As a tradition,

1913
01:35:12,933 --> 01:35:15,692
Speaker 3: we like to inject some more everyday issues into the

1914
01:35:15,853 --> 01:35:18,892
Speaker 3: three o'clock hours. Still important, but just important in a

1915
01:35:18,893 --> 01:35:21,412
Speaker 3: different way. And we had a great in depth discussion

1916
01:35:21,452 --> 01:35:24,893
Speaker 3: on Iran for about an hour. But it is important

1917
01:35:24,893 --> 01:35:27,213
Speaker 3: that we talk about the broad experience of life in

1918
01:35:27,253 --> 01:35:29,452
Speaker 3: New Zealand. You know, it can't just be all war chat.

1919
01:35:29,612 --> 01:35:32,772
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, and Heather will be getting straight back

1920
01:35:32,812 --> 01:35:35,612
Speaker 2: into that chat after four. So this is just a

1921
01:35:35,652 --> 01:35:39,732
Speaker 2: little bit of a wander down the suburban streets of

1922
01:35:39,772 --> 01:35:40,852
Speaker 2: New Zealand and looking at.

1923
01:35:40,772 --> 01:35:42,852
Speaker 3: Some tight berms. Yeah, beautifully said.

1924
01:35:42,933 --> 01:35:46,572
Speaker 2: And also what was that person's Texas name was?

1925
01:35:47,173 --> 01:35:47,492
Speaker 3: Jeff?

1926
01:35:47,692 --> 01:35:51,093
Speaker 2: Jeff? We talk about whatever I want. Down here in

1927
01:35:51,173 --> 01:35:54,293
Speaker 2: Lake Hawea, our booms die off due to heat, drought, wind,

1928
01:35:54,333 --> 01:35:57,132
Speaker 2: et cetera. I have actually, I actually have my irrigation

1929
01:35:57,213 --> 01:35:59,972
Speaker 2: line running under mine. Keep it lush and green. Gives

1930
01:35:59,973 --> 01:36:03,853
Speaker 2: the street a fresh lift. See that's the next level.

1931
01:36:03,933 --> 01:36:04,772
Speaker 3: Water in your burn.

1932
01:36:04,973 --> 01:36:06,652
Speaker 2: So you have the greenest berm in the street.

1933
01:36:06,893 --> 01:36:07,892
Speaker 3: I think that is importance.

1934
01:36:07,973 --> 01:36:10,492
Speaker 2: I've seen some berms up north, says Jonathan, all hoed

1935
01:36:10,572 --> 01:36:13,173
Speaker 2: up and turned into veggie gardens. I'm in favor of that,

1936
01:36:13,652 --> 01:36:16,972
Speaker 2: and or just spraying with roundup Jonathan.

1937
01:36:17,893 --> 01:36:21,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like using your boom. See, you know,

1938
01:36:21,253 --> 01:36:21,692
Speaker 3: if you're going.

1939
01:36:21,652 --> 01:36:24,492
Speaker 2: To run a tight berm, right, tight berm, tight edges

1940
01:36:24,652 --> 01:36:28,612
Speaker 2: beautifully mowing, you know, right round the trees, throwing your berm.

1941
01:36:29,013 --> 01:36:29,892
Speaker 2: Everything's pristine.

1942
01:36:29,973 --> 01:36:30,253
Speaker 3: Yep.

1943
01:36:30,412 --> 01:36:34,212
Speaker 2: I like that. I also like a boom where someone's

1944
01:36:34,412 --> 01:36:35,372
Speaker 2: planted some stuff on it.

1945
01:36:35,372 --> 01:36:37,173
Speaker 3: It's practical if someone wants to run some.

1946
01:36:37,173 --> 01:36:40,052
Speaker 2: Vig out there, if they're running a veggie garden out there,

1947
01:36:40,053 --> 01:36:43,852
Speaker 2: all the better, more productive, more productive, fantastic. And you

1948
01:36:43,853 --> 01:36:45,692
Speaker 2: can have some tight edges on a veggie garden as well.

1949
01:36:46,213 --> 01:36:46,492
Speaker 13: He can.

1950
01:36:46,612 --> 01:36:49,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also just around the corn. For me, there's

1951
01:36:49,732 --> 01:36:54,333
Speaker 2: someone that's a bee enthusiast that's running a tightly regimented

1952
01:36:55,532 --> 01:36:59,333
Speaker 2: sort of b attracting situation with all the right flowers

1953
01:36:59,333 --> 01:37:02,133
Speaker 2: and stuff to get bees going. So it's a bit ramshackle,

1954
01:37:02,452 --> 01:37:05,572
Speaker 2: but it's clearly looked after, and it's a statement. I've

1955
01:37:05,612 --> 01:37:08,173
Speaker 2: got another neighbor that's running about four thousand succulents on

1956
01:37:08,213 --> 01:37:09,133
Speaker 2: the burm. Nice.

1957
01:37:09,293 --> 01:37:11,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what's going on with the circulars. Too many seconds,

1958
01:37:11,933 --> 01:37:12,893
Speaker 3: too many circulars.

1959
01:37:13,013 --> 01:37:14,852
Speaker 2: If I see a yacker, I'll drive my car into it.

1960
01:37:15,492 --> 01:37:18,692
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1961
01:37:18,812 --> 01:37:22,732
Speaker 2: With around twenty kilometers of berms, they are mint sprayed

1962
01:37:22,812 --> 01:37:25,892
Speaker 2: three times a year and a one hundred and eighty

1963
01:37:25,893 --> 01:37:29,173
Speaker 2: horsepower moer at six meters wide every two weeks of

1964
01:37:29,213 --> 01:37:29,612
Speaker 2: a summer.

1965
01:37:29,652 --> 01:37:33,213
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Darren has twenty kilometers of berms.

1966
01:37:33,372 --> 01:37:37,333
Speaker 2: Wow, well that is I'd let Darren off tidy edges

1967
01:37:37,412 --> 01:37:39,532
Speaker 2: with the twenty kilometers of burm.

1968
01:37:40,572 --> 01:37:41,692
Speaker 3: Is that's a lot of work.

1969
01:37:41,973 --> 01:37:45,133
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean sprayed three times a year. I mean

1970
01:37:45,173 --> 01:37:46,052
Speaker 2: that's not cheap.

1971
01:37:45,893 --> 01:37:46,013
Speaker 8: Is that?

1972
01:37:46,253 --> 01:37:49,572
Speaker 2: No, it's a spray And so twenty kil is like

1973
01:37:49,652 --> 01:37:54,333
Speaker 2: just so Darren love to talk to you. Actually, So

1974
01:37:54,893 --> 01:37:57,253
Speaker 2: how wide is your boom? So if you're if you've

1975
01:37:57,253 --> 01:37:58,893
Speaker 2: got your tractor, so obviously you're gonna have to be

1976
01:37:58,933 --> 01:38:01,053
Speaker 2: doing that with the tractor. So how many are you

1977
01:38:01,133 --> 01:38:03,532
Speaker 2: getting that? That berm? And one pass?

1978
01:38:03,812 --> 01:38:06,572
Speaker 3: They must be taking up forty k's because if you

1979
01:38:06,973 --> 01:38:09,812
Speaker 3: do the first run, then that's half of it and

1980
01:38:09,853 --> 01:38:11,932
Speaker 3: then you come back the twenty k's on the other way.

1981
01:38:12,253 --> 01:38:14,372
Speaker 3: And so going how fast does a ride on little

1982
01:38:14,412 --> 01:38:16,173
Speaker 3: mile go? I think it only goes about six k

1983
01:38:16,293 --> 01:38:16,852
Speaker 3: nowt doesn't it?

1984
01:38:17,013 --> 01:38:18,772
Speaker 2: I reckon, if you're doing twenty k's, you've got you've

1985
01:38:18,772 --> 01:38:20,372
Speaker 2: got an attachment on your tractor, right.

1986
01:38:20,333 --> 01:38:22,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, surely, yeah? Yeah, that's going full noise.

1987
01:38:22,612 --> 01:38:25,053
Speaker 2: That's an impressive amount of birmage there, Darren.

1988
01:38:25,013 --> 01:38:27,652
Speaker 3: There was something that ticks through talking about mowing the

1989
01:38:27,652 --> 01:38:30,412
Speaker 3: the neighbor's boom as well. What's your policy on that

1990
01:38:30,492 --> 01:38:33,213
Speaker 3: at the stage, mat Because you've spent so long having tight,

1991
01:38:33,253 --> 01:38:36,412
Speaker 3: tight lines and tight booms, would you go so far

1992
01:38:36,532 --> 01:38:39,973
Speaker 3: as to then jump on the neighbor's boom just to

1993
01:38:39,973 --> 01:38:41,213
Speaker 3: make that that a bit tight as well?

1994
01:38:41,652 --> 01:38:45,333
Speaker 2: Um, look, my neighbor there is the side of me

1995
01:38:45,333 --> 01:38:47,772
Speaker 2: are running a pretty good operation and the neighbor across

1996
01:38:47,853 --> 01:38:52,012
Speaker 2: the roads. But you know, I'm judgmental of those people.

1997
01:38:52,053 --> 01:38:53,372
Speaker 2: You know, you're walking down the street and you see

1998
01:38:53,412 --> 01:38:55,333
Speaker 2: a boom that's all mowing, and then there's like a

1999
01:38:55,452 --> 01:38:58,772
Speaker 2: line where it becomes the other person's property, and they

2000
01:38:58,853 --> 01:39:02,492
Speaker 2: just it's like they've got out the a ruler and

2001
01:39:02,492 --> 01:39:04,772
Speaker 2: they've worked out exactly where it's not their property anymore,

2002
01:39:04,812 --> 01:39:06,213
Speaker 2: and they only mo up to that. But I judge

2003
01:39:06,253 --> 01:39:06,532
Speaker 2: that as well.

2004
01:39:06,612 --> 01:39:08,652
Speaker 3: It's a bit pitty if it's a bit bitty, If.

2005
01:39:08,492 --> 01:39:11,173
Speaker 2: It's a continuous boom and goes into the neighbor, then

2006
01:39:11,253 --> 01:39:12,253
Speaker 2: you've got to do the whole thing.

2007
01:39:12,452 --> 01:39:14,213
Speaker 3: Would you do it to the same level, though, Although I.

2008
01:39:14,213 --> 01:39:16,492
Speaker 2: Wouldn't like I take a lot of joy out of

2009
01:39:16,652 --> 01:39:18,772
Speaker 2: working my berm, So I don't know if I'd like

2010
01:39:18,812 --> 01:39:21,293
Speaker 2: my neighbor to come past and steal that little bit

2011
01:39:21,333 --> 01:39:25,133
Speaker 2: of that, just little glimmer of joy in my life.

2012
01:39:25,213 --> 01:39:27,652
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2013
01:39:27,772 --> 01:39:30,213
Speaker 3: number to call. How tight is your boom? Love to

2014
01:39:30,253 --> 01:39:33,612
Speaker 3: hear from you, fellas. Berms are counts alone. We are

2015
01:39:33,893 --> 01:39:37,333
Speaker 3: one love to mow, not stone, not put into vegi gardens,

2016
01:39:37,333 --> 01:39:40,452
Speaker 3: et cetera. We are not allowed to sorry, yeah, yeah,

2017
01:39:40,492 --> 01:39:42,732
Speaker 3: but who cares what the council says. So the count

2018
01:39:43,293 --> 01:39:45,973
Speaker 3: the berm is counts loads. You're not allowed to do

2019
01:39:46,013 --> 01:39:48,932
Speaker 3: things to it. Well, so just pride in your street,

2020
01:39:48,933 --> 01:39:50,492
Speaker 3: doesn't it? Who cares what the council is going to say.

2021
01:39:50,532 --> 01:39:52,053
Speaker 3: They're not going to come around and say yet, your

2022
01:39:52,053 --> 01:39:52,812
Speaker 3: boom's too tight.

2023
01:39:52,893 --> 01:39:57,213
Speaker 2: They can find you, they can take my berm out

2024
01:39:57,213 --> 01:39:58,133
Speaker 2: of my cold dead hand.

2025
01:39:59,772 --> 01:40:02,812
Speaker 3: Keep those things going through on nine two, nine to two, Hayley,

2026
01:40:03,333 --> 01:40:04,293
Speaker 3: how are you hi?

2027
01:40:05,213 --> 01:40:05,492
Speaker 8: Good?

2028
01:40:05,532 --> 01:40:07,692
Speaker 3: How are you good? Can you hear rat your berm?

2029
01:40:08,812 --> 01:40:11,892
Speaker 21: Yeah, well it's not actually my berm. I've got berm envy.

2030
01:40:12,612 --> 01:40:14,612
Speaker 21: I don't actually have a berm. I live in I

2031
01:40:14,612 --> 01:40:16,812
Speaker 21: love in still Water and we don't have berms where

2032
01:40:16,853 --> 01:40:17,452
Speaker 21: my housebands.

2033
01:40:17,452 --> 01:40:19,092
Speaker 14: We've just got this wild bush.

2034
01:40:19,893 --> 01:40:23,692
Speaker 21: But there's two berms that are incredible, this one and

2035
01:40:23,772 --> 01:40:27,893
Speaker 21: Brown Spade, which is out of the gate like paradise,

2036
01:40:28,013 --> 01:40:31,372
Speaker 21: and it's like got fruit trees. She's like created this

2037
01:40:31,732 --> 01:40:35,213
Speaker 21: incredible garden. It is so amazing, Like I always will

2038
01:40:35,293 --> 01:40:37,812
Speaker 21: pass and just like marvel at how wicky it is.

2039
01:40:38,133 --> 01:40:39,852
Speaker 2: What kind of what kind of fruit is she growing

2040
01:40:39,893 --> 01:40:41,052
Speaker 2: in her orchard?

2041
01:40:41,093 --> 01:40:45,093
Speaker 21: Slash burd It's got like citrus fruit, like lemons and

2042
01:40:45,213 --> 01:40:49,173
Speaker 21: limes and all this edible plant life all around it.

2043
01:40:49,173 --> 01:40:52,053
Speaker 21: It's all lay it up and it's beautiful and it

2044
01:40:52,333 --> 01:40:55,852
Speaker 21: kind of flows on for their from their amazing landscapes garden.

2045
01:40:56,213 --> 01:40:57,292
Speaker 17: Does she gorgeous?

2046
01:40:57,372 --> 01:41:00,532
Speaker 2: Does she you know? Happy? I mean, I don't know

2047
01:41:00,532 --> 01:41:02,372
Speaker 2: if you know or anything, but it's happy for people

2048
01:41:02,412 --> 01:41:05,293
Speaker 2: to come past and you know, harvest her boom.

2049
01:41:06,652 --> 01:41:08,572
Speaker 21: I have I have no idea. I have to kind

2050
01:41:08,612 --> 01:41:11,812
Speaker 21: of thought about it when I've walked past it, but

2051
01:41:12,013 --> 01:41:13,692
Speaker 21: I don't know. I guess if you're putting it on

2052
01:41:13,732 --> 01:41:16,372
Speaker 21: public land, you kind of bring it up to the

2053
01:41:16,492 --> 01:41:17,973
Speaker 21: weather's out there.

2054
01:41:17,812 --> 01:41:19,293
Speaker 2: Because it kind of seems like they would be the

2055
01:41:19,293 --> 01:41:22,732
Speaker 2: perfect situation. If people use their booms as orchards, then

2056
01:41:22,772 --> 01:41:26,253
Speaker 2: you can have school kids skipping home from school and

2057
01:41:26,333 --> 01:41:28,173
Speaker 2: grabbing an apple and eating it as they go.

2058
01:41:28,532 --> 01:41:30,973
Speaker 3: Lovely, lovely, I mean, why not.

2059
01:41:31,333 --> 01:41:33,133
Speaker 21: And you've got like all the bowers and all that

2060
01:41:33,213 --> 01:41:35,452
Speaker 21: for bees, and you know, all the stuff that's really

2061
01:41:35,492 --> 01:41:36,532
Speaker 21: necessary for our.

2062
01:41:36,412 --> 01:41:39,692
Speaker 3: Ecosystem, you know, yeah, I mean it is fair that

2063
01:41:39,772 --> 01:41:42,973
Speaker 3: if you're you're planting those fruit trees, everybody can come

2064
01:41:43,013 --> 01:41:45,092
Speaker 3: and have a wee line, but you've got to enforce

2065
01:41:45,293 --> 01:41:47,372
Speaker 3: some rules there to say, don't be a dick, don't

2066
01:41:47,412 --> 01:41:49,533
Speaker 3: strip every line you can find.

2067
01:41:49,253 --> 01:41:51,213
Speaker 2: While you sit on the porch with the shotgun, and

2068
01:41:51,293 --> 01:41:52,532
Speaker 2: force some rules around your boom.

2069
01:41:53,173 --> 01:41:56,452
Speaker 3: It's exactly what you should do. I saw you taking

2070
01:41:56,452 --> 01:41:58,732
Speaker 3: two lines. I line you up.

2071
01:42:00,812 --> 01:42:03,572
Speaker 21: And mount ross school. There's a bern that is covered

2072
01:42:03,612 --> 01:42:07,333
Speaker 21: and Marrigold's like from It's not one berm. It's like

2073
01:42:07,333 --> 01:42:10,132
Speaker 21: a whole wrap around the whole, like kind of corner

2074
01:42:10,213 --> 01:42:12,013
Speaker 21: in section. It's beautiful.

2075
01:42:12,893 --> 01:42:16,973
Speaker 2: So we need to encourage what's a word for it,

2076
01:42:17,053 --> 01:42:20,133
Speaker 2: burm creativity and burm flair, because you know what I've

2077
01:42:20,133 --> 01:42:23,572
Speaker 2: been I've been talking about just the strict, regimented edges.

2078
01:42:24,572 --> 01:42:28,412
Speaker 2: You know that's that's all about precision. But you know

2079
01:42:28,933 --> 01:42:32,532
Speaker 2: there's that there's something actually almost more worthy of someone

2080
01:42:32,612 --> 01:42:34,852
Speaker 2: that's that's thought about it more and gone. I'm going

2081
01:42:34,933 --> 01:42:37,972
Speaker 2: to cover that bare Boy and Mario Golds, Marriagoals. I'm

2082
01:42:37,973 --> 01:42:40,372
Speaker 2: going to run an orchard. You know there's I'm going

2083
01:42:40,412 --> 01:42:42,253
Speaker 2: to attract some bes.

2084
01:42:42,452 --> 01:42:48,293
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, spot on, Hailey, thank you very much. I'm

2085
01:42:48,293 --> 01:42:50,372
Speaker 3: looking forward to driving around Brown's Bay and finding this

2086
01:42:50,532 --> 01:42:51,333
Speaker 3: some this orchard.

2087
01:42:51,732 --> 01:42:53,812
Speaker 2: And in regards to you, sext, I think we have

2088
01:42:53,893 --> 01:42:56,492
Speaker 2: to have these stupid funny topics because life is pretty

2089
01:42:56,492 --> 01:42:58,093
Speaker 2: stressful at the moment, says this text.

2090
01:42:58,412 --> 01:43:02,372
Speaker 3: Exactly good on your maus, exactly spot on, spot on, Yeah.

2091
01:43:02,412 --> 01:43:06,412
Speaker 2: I mean the Iranian war will be well, what's happening

2092
01:43:06,452 --> 01:43:07,812
Speaker 2: in Iran. I don't know if we can call it

2093
01:43:07,853 --> 01:43:09,652
Speaker 2: a war yet or if it will ever be a war,

2094
01:43:09,692 --> 01:43:12,452
Speaker 2: but what's happening there is that'll that'll be talked about,

2095
01:43:12,532 --> 01:43:13,932
Speaker 2: and it has been talked about on this show.

2096
01:43:14,013 --> 01:43:14,213
Speaker 10: Yep.

2097
01:43:14,333 --> 01:43:16,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll talk about it again just right now.

2098
01:43:16,692 --> 01:43:19,492
Speaker 3: We're loving this boom chat. So can you hear your story?

2099
01:43:19,532 --> 01:43:22,333
Speaker 3: I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty How tight is

2100
01:43:22,372 --> 01:43:24,092
Speaker 3: you boom. Have you got a bit of a competition

2101
01:43:24,133 --> 01:43:26,253
Speaker 3: going on with the neighbors? I eight one hundred eighty

2102
01:43:26,333 --> 01:43:28,293
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? Hi?

2103
01:43:28,372 --> 01:43:31,492
Speaker 2: Guys. You can't urban driveway to driveway, So when you're

2104
01:43:31,572 --> 01:43:35,252
Speaker 2: urban it's driveway to driveway. Rural it's powerpole to powerpole.

2105
01:43:35,732 --> 01:43:37,173
Speaker 2: This is the way, thanks, Rachel.

2106
01:43:37,253 --> 01:43:38,053
Speaker 3: Right's that the rule?

2107
01:43:38,412 --> 01:43:38,652
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2108
01:43:38,772 --> 01:43:41,333
Speaker 3: Okay? According to Rachel, Yeah, nineteen ninety two is set ticks.

2109
01:43:41,412 --> 01:43:42,932
Speaker 3: Come on through. It is eighteen to four.

2110
01:43:43,532 --> 01:43:47,053
Speaker 2: Tell us about your type Burm, the issues that affect you,

2111
01:43:47,293 --> 01:43:48,772
Speaker 2: and a bit of fun along the way.

2112
01:43:48,973 --> 01:43:53,652
Speaker 1: Matten afternoons with Skoda. Please Scoter codes every day at

2113
01:43:53,692 --> 01:43:56,652
Speaker 1: scoter dot co dot nz news talk sa'd.

2114
01:43:56,452 --> 01:43:58,852
Speaker 3: Be it is a quarter to four. We're talking about

2115
01:43:58,853 --> 01:44:01,732
Speaker 3: burm pride. How tight is you'll boom? How much effort

2116
01:44:01,772 --> 01:44:04,813
Speaker 3: do you put into it to make it look pristine?

2117
01:44:04,933 --> 01:44:07,133
Speaker 2: The stix says, we've got a Burm warden. When my

2118
01:44:07,213 --> 01:44:09,452
Speaker 2: lines are tight, I get caught moments if I let

2119
01:44:09,532 --> 01:44:13,012
Speaker 2: them go. She doesn't say anything, but just no, she's

2120
01:44:13,053 --> 01:44:13,572
Speaker 2: not happy.

2121
01:44:13,973 --> 01:44:14,173
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2122
01:44:14,213 --> 01:44:15,812
Speaker 2: So when I was working on my boom in the

2123
01:44:15,812 --> 01:44:18,452
Speaker 2: weekend and getting some tight lines, this woman stopped to

2124
01:44:18,452 --> 01:44:20,133
Speaker 2: talk to me for a bit, and she goes, oh

2125
01:44:20,173 --> 01:44:22,013
Speaker 2: it stiff, look doesn't it. She goes, you need to

2126
01:44:22,013 --> 01:44:24,972
Speaker 2: do what your neighbor over there is doing. Look how

2127
01:44:25,053 --> 01:44:27,452
Speaker 2: nice those lines are. Whatever he's doing, maybe watch what

2128
01:44:27,532 --> 01:44:30,372
Speaker 2: he does next time he does it. So it was

2129
01:44:30,412 --> 01:44:33,092
Speaker 2: like she was being very nice, but she was also

2130
01:44:33,173 --> 01:44:34,812
Speaker 2: critiquing my work quite harshly.

2131
01:44:34,933 --> 01:44:38,013
Speaker 3: Is a great backheaded compliment, a von, how are you

2132
01:44:38,093 --> 01:44:38,732
Speaker 3: this afternoon?

2133
01:44:39,572 --> 01:44:43,852
Speaker 14: I'm fine and hopper clicker. I had no lawnmark because

2134
01:44:43,853 --> 01:44:46,372
Speaker 14: I had no lawns on the property, So the boom

2135
01:44:46,812 --> 01:44:49,452
Speaker 14: I dag it over and I planted it with wild

2136
01:44:49,692 --> 01:44:53,372
Speaker 14: flower seat packets. So it came up with a variety

2137
01:44:53,372 --> 01:44:55,172
Speaker 14: of wild flowers and it's.

2138
01:44:55,013 --> 01:44:55,652
Speaker 4: Still the same.

2139
01:44:55,692 --> 01:44:59,132
Speaker 14: I visited it yesterday, twelve months since I lived, and

2140
01:44:59,293 --> 01:45:00,412
Speaker 14: it's still looking as good.

2141
01:45:00,812 --> 01:45:03,172
Speaker 2: So Henry, you just sprinkled them. You didn't do anything else.

2142
01:45:04,013 --> 01:45:07,492
Speaker 14: Just sprinkled the wild flower seeds onto the gardens, onto

2143
01:45:07,532 --> 01:45:08,892
Speaker 14: the dirt to it.

2144
01:45:09,213 --> 01:45:11,253
Speaker 2: Wow, how good and nature found a way.

2145
01:45:11,492 --> 01:45:14,012
Speaker 14: Eating in a bit of pulling out the dead old stuff.

2146
01:45:14,013 --> 01:45:18,253
Speaker 14: But yeah, that works well. Currently I have nothing but

2147
01:45:18,333 --> 01:45:22,013
Speaker 14: weeds and no lawn, but I still my neighbors it

2148
01:45:22,093 --> 01:45:25,612
Speaker 14: for me. I'm going to we kill that over the

2149
01:45:25,652 --> 01:45:27,812
Speaker 14: winter and then next year I'm going to do it

2150
01:45:27,933 --> 01:45:29,132
Speaker 14: in fragrant moss.

2151
01:45:29,333 --> 01:45:34,093
Speaker 2: Oh, lovely fragrant moss. So you're very creative, Yvonne. It's

2152
01:45:34,093 --> 01:45:37,093
Speaker 2: funny with planting stuff. Sometimes you try and plant something

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01:45:37,133 --> 01:45:39,492
Speaker 2: and nothing happens, and it's the hardest thing in the world,

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01:45:39,532 --> 01:45:41,772
Speaker 2: and sometimes you just have some wild seeds around. Next thing,

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01:45:41,772 --> 01:45:45,412
Speaker 2: you know, you've got a beautiful, vibrant garden on a birm.

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01:45:45,652 --> 01:45:47,213
Speaker 2: It's amazing nature.

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01:45:47,372 --> 01:45:49,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, Avon, thank you. I mean a hoekit tecker as well.

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01:45:49,772 --> 01:45:51,452
Speaker 3: You know, plenty of rain on hokit tickeers, so maybe

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01:45:51,452 --> 01:45:51,973
Speaker 3: that's part of it.

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01:45:52,013 --> 01:45:54,572
Speaker 2: Sounds to me like a civil war on berms here.

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01:45:55,612 --> 01:45:58,772
Speaker 2: No need to go overseas anyway, we use spectral. It's

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01:45:58,772 --> 01:46:02,013
Speaker 2: going to be short, so not expect so boring. You

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01:46:02,093 --> 01:46:05,892
Speaker 2: only do braidings up street Berm. I know this person's

2164
01:46:05,933 --> 01:46:10,253
Speaker 2: been talking into their phone. Bump plums. It was making

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01:46:10,293 --> 01:46:12,452
Speaker 2: sense for while this text. Now it's turned into bum plums.

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01:46:12,492 --> 01:46:13,972
Speaker 3: Okay, right, so I don't.

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01:46:13,772 --> 01:46:15,372
Speaker 2: Know what bum plums are, but I'm pretty sure that's

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01:46:15,372 --> 01:46:16,173
Speaker 2: not what you meant to text.

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01:46:16,253 --> 01:46:24,173
Speaker 3: If you can specify bump plums, get a Carl, you're

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01:46:24,173 --> 01:46:27,853
Speaker 3: talking to Matt and Tyler berms.

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01:46:28,372 --> 01:46:32,732
Speaker 5: Okay, I haven't and me and my neighbor we don't

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01:46:32,772 --> 01:46:35,173
Speaker 5: know our burns at all, haven't done for five years,

2173
01:46:35,893 --> 01:46:38,092
Speaker 5: and we're the only ones. You don't get robbed. Okay,

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01:46:38,372 --> 01:46:40,372
Speaker 5: never been. Oh no, don't even look at it.

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01:46:40,692 --> 01:46:43,092
Speaker 2: Why because they think that if you don't know your burns,

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01:46:43,133 --> 01:46:45,093
Speaker 2: that means you haven't got anything decent inside. Is that

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01:46:45,133 --> 01:46:45,852
Speaker 2: what the logic is?

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01:46:46,933 --> 01:46:50,532
Speaker 5: Yeah, my lawns are mode, but early on the side

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01:46:50,532 --> 01:46:52,333
Speaker 5: of the road, no one parks there. We're in a

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01:46:52,333 --> 01:46:55,772
Speaker 5: bit of a dead end, and it all looks a

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01:46:55,772 --> 01:46:58,772
Speaker 5: bit sketchy. So I think people just don't want to

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01:46:58,812 --> 01:46:59,133
Speaker 5: look at it.

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01:46:59,412 --> 01:47:01,173
Speaker 3: I think it is. I mean, anyone who doesn't know

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01:47:01,293 --> 01:47:03,452
Speaker 3: their berm at all, you're kind of looking say they're

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01:47:03,532 --> 01:47:06,772
Speaker 3: dangerous people. They could do anything. They can't get their

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01:47:06,772 --> 01:47:10,052
Speaker 3: booms sorted. Then it could be trouble.

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01:47:11,173 --> 01:47:11,773
Speaker 10: Absolutely.

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01:47:11,853 --> 01:47:13,412
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is the idea.

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01:47:13,612 --> 01:47:18,373
Speaker 2: I got on your Carl. If you plant aga panthers

2190
01:47:18,532 --> 01:47:21,253
Speaker 2: on your berm, I will drive my car into it.

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01:47:21,333 --> 01:47:23,013
Speaker 2: Matt cheers Roscoe.

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01:47:23,173 --> 01:47:27,973
Speaker 3: Okay, thick Rosco, it's some deep, deep seated anger on

2193
01:47:28,053 --> 01:47:28,652
Speaker 3: aga panthers.

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01:47:28,772 --> 01:47:32,932
Speaker 2: Well, I don't like an egga panther. Also, I don't

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01:47:32,933 --> 01:47:34,812
Speaker 2: know what an agapanther is. I just don't like the words,

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01:47:34,933 --> 01:47:37,133
Speaker 2: and I hear it a lot, and I'm not willing

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01:47:37,133 --> 01:47:40,532
Speaker 2: to find out. Matt, does your berms match your drapes? Yes,

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01:47:42,333 --> 01:47:47,093
Speaker 2: there are services under berms, lads, power, gas, water, water, water, water, water,

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01:47:47,133 --> 01:47:49,052
Speaker 2: waste water. It's sit your plant of garden or trees.

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01:47:49,093 --> 01:47:52,532
Speaker 2: The roots can affect services. Also if services need repair

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01:47:52,612 --> 01:47:56,013
Speaker 2: and contracts, well he will dig it up. Well, yeah,

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01:47:56,133 --> 01:47:57,652
Speaker 2: you need to, but how often does that happen?

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01:47:57,853 --> 01:47:59,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's part and parcel that you've still

2204
01:47:59,612 --> 01:48:01,692
Speaker 3: got to have burm pride. If the diddy old council

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01:48:01,772 --> 01:48:03,412
Speaker 3: comes along and wants to dig it up because there's

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01:48:03,412 --> 01:48:05,932
Speaker 3: a broken pipe, that's that's the roll of the dice,

2207
01:48:05,973 --> 01:48:07,173
Speaker 3: isn't it. You can't stop there.

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01:48:07,213 --> 01:48:10,053
Speaker 2: And also you can yeah, I mean, if if that's

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01:48:10,093 --> 01:48:12,253
Speaker 2: the case, there's the case. But anyone can find out

2210
01:48:12,293 --> 01:48:14,253
Speaker 2: where the pipes are on their burn. Yeah, you don't

2211
01:48:14,253 --> 01:48:17,012
Speaker 2: want to plant a bhoda cow or a lemon tree

2212
01:48:17,013 --> 01:48:18,892
Speaker 2: on that part of it. But also I mean if

2213
01:48:18,933 --> 01:48:21,372
Speaker 2: you're putting a garden on a burn, that's I mean,

2214
01:48:21,492 --> 01:48:23,093
Speaker 2: if anything that's going to be easier to get through

2215
01:48:23,093 --> 01:48:27,252
Speaker 2: to the pipes. Yeah, then you know digging through bloody grass.

2216
01:48:27,372 --> 01:48:30,852
Speaker 3: Can will flowers really take out a wastewater system? I

2217
01:48:30,893 --> 01:48:32,452
Speaker 3: don't think they're that strong, you know.

2218
01:48:32,572 --> 01:48:34,093
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what an aga panther is,

2219
01:48:34,133 --> 01:48:36,852
Speaker 2: but can that do that? I said I wouldn't try

2220
01:48:36,893 --> 01:48:38,173
Speaker 2: and find out what an aga panther is. But my

2221
01:48:38,213 --> 01:48:40,092
Speaker 2: whole life people have been talking about agga panthers.

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01:48:40,492 --> 01:48:41,892
Speaker 3: It's time to rip that one off. I wait, one

2223
01:48:41,973 --> 01:48:46,173
Speaker 3: hundred eight eighty is the number to call a couple

2224
01:48:46,173 --> 01:48:48,133
Speaker 3: of ticks coming through on nine two nine two?

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01:48:48,333 --> 01:48:49,732
Speaker 2: Like, what's wrong with the agga panther?

2226
01:48:50,133 --> 01:48:51,012
Speaker 3: They are right, aren't they?

2227
01:48:51,133 --> 01:48:52,213
Speaker 2: Are they a weed or something?

2228
01:48:52,213 --> 01:48:53,692
Speaker 3: Are they the big bulbous ones?

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01:48:53,893 --> 01:48:55,692
Speaker 2: Well, I've just looked like at aga panther. It's some

2230
01:48:55,732 --> 01:48:58,372
Speaker 2: kind of sort of sort of violet colored wounder.

2231
01:48:58,492 --> 01:49:00,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're good looking. I see them sold on the

2232
01:49:00,173 --> 01:49:02,492
Speaker 3: side of the streets sometimes.

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01:49:02,133 --> 01:49:09,612
Speaker 2: Right, originating saga especially. Okay, it's an invasive species.

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01:49:09,692 --> 01:49:12,492
Speaker 3: Oh right, Okay, yeah, that'll do it. Okay, anything that's invasive,

2235
01:49:12,532 --> 01:49:13,772
Speaker 3: you're okay the plant has.

2236
01:49:13,692 --> 01:49:15,372
Speaker 2: Made okay, okay, yeah, cool. I was right to be

2237
01:49:15,412 --> 01:49:18,372
Speaker 2: anti egga panther. The plant has been listed on Various

2238
01:49:18,372 --> 01:49:20,412
Speaker 2: Weed Register since nineteen ninety six and it is currently

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01:49:20,452 --> 01:49:23,372
Speaker 2: decleared by the Department of Conservation to be an environmental weed.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that solves screw you, aga pancer.

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01:49:26,572 --> 01:49:27,652
Speaker 2: Then I you it didn't like you.

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01:49:27,933 --> 01:49:31,053
Speaker 3: Interesting text here boom is the council's land water it

2243
01:49:31,093 --> 01:49:34,892
Speaker 3: with diesel used engine oil mix perfect from luke see Luke,

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01:49:34,933 --> 01:49:36,772
Speaker 3: I don't know you canna have a bit of boom pride.

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01:49:37,013 --> 01:49:39,213
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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01:49:39,253 --> 01:49:39,652
Speaker 3: to call?

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01:49:39,732 --> 01:49:42,372
Speaker 2: Oh Darren who texta before and city are twenty k

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01:49:42,652 --> 01:49:45,532
Speaker 2: of burms, twelve properties, so that we're asking how do

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01:49:45,612 --> 01:49:48,932
Speaker 2: you mow twenty k with the booms? So he sees

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01:49:48,973 --> 01:49:52,013
Speaker 2: twelve properties single swipe at six meters, so he's got

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01:49:52,253 --> 01:49:57,652
Speaker 2: he's His attachment on his tractor is a six meter

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01:49:57,893 --> 01:49:58,972
Speaker 2: right six meters swipe.

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01:49:59,013 --> 01:49:59,652
Speaker 3: Big operation.

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01:49:59,973 --> 01:50:02,333
Speaker 2: But two farms are well apart, so with travel time

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01:50:02,452 --> 01:50:06,052
Speaker 2: and also around the ponds, lake and green areas on farm,

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01:50:06,053 --> 01:50:07,533
Speaker 2: it's roughly six hours.

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01:50:07,253 --> 01:50:09,333
Speaker 3: Work good on your and what allegend?

2258
01:50:09,333 --> 01:50:11,612
Speaker 2: So if he's taking six hours on his boom, surely

2259
01:50:11,652 --> 01:50:14,532
Speaker 2: you can get some tiight edges on your boom wherever

2260
01:50:14,572 --> 01:50:17,012
Speaker 2: you are, no excuse, so one hundred and eighty ten eighties.

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01:50:17,013 --> 01:50:19,333
Speaker 3: The number to call it is nine minutes to four.

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01:50:20,333 --> 01:50:23,812
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:50:24,053 --> 01:50:27,892
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

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01:50:27,893 --> 01:50:28,612
Speaker 1: talk z EDB.

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01:50:29,333 --> 01:50:32,412
Speaker 3: News Talks ed B. It is six minutes to four.

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01:50:32,612 --> 01:50:35,973
Speaker 3: Interesting text here, kiddy guys, A conundrum for you. I

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01:50:36,013 --> 01:50:37,893
Speaker 3: don't technically have a burm as I live in a

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01:50:37,933 --> 01:50:39,972
Speaker 3: back house, but I've always mowed and edge the one

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01:50:40,013 --> 01:50:42,133
Speaker 3: meter of boom directly in front of my property for

2270
01:50:42,133 --> 01:50:44,452
Speaker 3: twenty years. The neighbor mode is weekly and all as well,

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01:50:44,692 --> 01:50:46,692
Speaker 3: but recently the house has become a rental and they

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01:50:46,772 --> 01:50:49,812
Speaker 3: only mow by monthly, meaning I have a stupid one

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01:50:49,812 --> 01:50:52,732
Speaker 3: meter square patch of good next to an unsightly patch

2274
01:50:52,812 --> 01:50:54,852
Speaker 3: looks terrible. Should I keep doing my bit or stop

2275
01:50:54,893 --> 01:50:55,812
Speaker 3: and put up with a mess?

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01:50:56,013 --> 01:50:59,452
Speaker 2: Yeah that is I feel your pain, John, because they're

2277
01:50:59,452 --> 01:51:01,253
Speaker 2: making your one meter look ridiculous.

2278
01:51:01,612 --> 01:51:04,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the point of that as it's beautifully kept.

2279
01:51:04,893 --> 01:51:08,892
Speaker 2: I mean, either you start you know, doing you know

2280
01:51:09,732 --> 01:51:13,652
Speaker 2: they're bit as well and dealing with their bi monthly situation,

2281
01:51:14,372 --> 01:51:16,452
Speaker 2: or I don't know. I think you just got to

2282
01:51:16,452 --> 01:51:18,213
Speaker 2: still doing the right thing. I think John, you're doing

2283
01:51:18,253 --> 01:51:20,213
Speaker 2: the right thing with that one meter. It does seem

2284
01:51:20,213 --> 01:51:22,812
Speaker 2: a little bit humiliating, and I'm sure it looks stupid,

2285
01:51:22,812 --> 01:51:25,213
Speaker 2: but you know you've been doing that. You've been fighting

2286
01:51:25,253 --> 01:51:27,532
Speaker 2: the good fight. Even if just one meter square of

2287
01:51:27,612 --> 01:51:31,333
Speaker 2: tight berms is it may look ridiculous, but it's but

2288
01:51:31,492 --> 01:51:34,412
Speaker 2: it's it's what you're saying. You're saying that a tight

2289
01:51:34,492 --> 01:51:35,612
Speaker 2: berm is an important thing.

2290
01:51:35,692 --> 01:51:37,812
Speaker 3: You were doing the right thing. The dirty old neighbors

2291
01:51:37,812 --> 01:51:38,213
Speaker 3: they are not.

2292
01:51:39,692 --> 01:51:44,372
Speaker 2: It's see I've been I've been saying aga panthers, it's

2293
01:51:44,452 --> 01:51:47,532
Speaker 2: agger pantherus, agapanthus.

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01:51:47,372 --> 01:51:48,412
Speaker 3: H Well, I doubly hate them.

2295
01:51:48,452 --> 01:51:51,412
Speaker 2: Now agapanthus roots will clog the drains. What services do

2296
01:51:51,452 --> 01:51:53,572
Speaker 2: you think are under your berm? Gas power, phone and

2297
01:51:53,612 --> 01:51:57,053
Speaker 2: street lamps? Trees may interfere with services? And are you

2298
01:51:57,093 --> 01:51:59,692
Speaker 2: okay for councils to dig up and to get the service? Margaret,

2299
01:51:59,692 --> 01:52:02,213
Speaker 2: I couldn't give less of a crap about the gas

2300
01:52:02,293 --> 01:52:05,173
Speaker 2: power and phone and street lamps under my berm. In fact,

2301
01:52:05,853 --> 01:52:07,973
Speaker 2: I'm just to annoy you, Margaret. I'm gonna concrete my

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01:52:08,013 --> 01:52:11,652
Speaker 2: berm and surround it and BARBOI sit in the middle

2303
01:52:11,732 --> 01:52:14,213
Speaker 2: with a taser and fire at the council if they

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01:52:14,253 --> 01:52:16,372
Speaker 2: ever come near it looking at the pipes.

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01:52:16,412 --> 01:52:19,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look forward to that, mate. Right, great discussion.

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01:52:19,572 --> 01:52:21,812
Speaker 3: Thank you to everyone who called and text and there's

2307
01:52:21,812 --> 01:52:23,452
Speaker 3: clearly a lot of type booms out there.

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01:52:24,213 --> 01:52:25,892
Speaker 2: A type boom is a good boom.

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01:52:26,412 --> 01:52:26,772
Speaker 10: All right.

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01:52:26,973 --> 01:52:32,012
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the show. We'll

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01:52:32,053 --> 01:52:36,772
Speaker 2: be back again tomorrow live from twelve pm, so join

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01:52:36,812 --> 01:52:39,213
Speaker 2: the conversation. Then the great and powerful Heather Deep of

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01:52:39,253 --> 01:52:42,772
Speaker 2: see Ellen is up next. But until tomorrow, here's some

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Speaker 3: Great band, Great Friday, what a churn architack.

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Speaker 2: and we'll see you tomorrow.

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