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Speaker 2: Hello you, Great New Zealand, and welcome to Mattain Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number two O six for the sixteenth

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Speaker 2: of September. In the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's still twenty twenty five, although it's disappearing fast.

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Speaker 2: And the show today with some false advertising, we don't

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Speaker 2: get round to the topic of whether Gen X is

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Speaker 2: the best generation or the overlooked generation, or what is

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Speaker 2: the best generation. We're going to get to that tomorrow

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Speaker 2: because that blow up. Certainly people got pretty excited about

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Speaker 2: local body elections. You wouldn't have expected that, but that

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Speaker 2: really fired up. And then we went into the weight

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Speaker 2: loss drugs and that was a fantastic conversation as well.

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Speaker 2: And there's some really good stories from people and the

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Speaker 2: pros and con So yeah, good on you.

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Speaker 3: All right there, we love you.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons News Talk

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Speaker 1: said they.

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Speaker 3: Well, good a to you, welcome into Tuesday show. Really

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Speaker 3: good to have you with us as always, Hug, you're

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Speaker 3: having a pretty good day where ever you're listening in

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Speaker 3: the country.

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Speaker 2: Man, get a Tyler. You know, some people in our

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Speaker 2: country work incredibly hard. I get up very early and

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Speaker 2: I walk my dog in the morning and there's a

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Speaker 2: open at six thirty am. Good people to serve me

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Speaker 2: a coffee. Yeah, because I'm a crazy guy that did

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Speaker 2: breakfast radio for eleven years. I can't sleep and so

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Speaker 2: I'm out walking my dog. But they're starting their day

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Speaker 2: that early. Yeah, just to serve me a coffee. Good

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Speaker 2: on them, bless them.

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Speaker 3: Good news Zealanders. So they know you're coming. They know

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Speaker 3: talks Big Matt on the daily walk.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean they're open to business for any They're

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Speaker 2: not even for me, right, there's not a private coffee thing.

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Speaker 2: They're open for whoever wants to walk past. And I

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Speaker 2: can enough and lean in their window that goes out

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Speaker 2: onto the streets. You can just you can just order

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Speaker 2: the coffee from in there's a hole in the wall,

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Speaker 2: you order it. Yeah, And I just thought I was

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Speaker 2: thinking this morning Jesus is early, and they're up and

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Speaker 2: they're ready to go with a big smile in their

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Speaker 2: in business and make a lot of money for a

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Speaker 2: very long time in that particular cafe.

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Speaker 3: I'll say the name of Okra Okra okraa ha is

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Speaker 3: the name of the cafe. Nice, goodod people, good people.

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Speaker 3: They are keeping this country going fantastic. Right to the

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Speaker 3: show today after three o'clock. This is going to be

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Speaker 3: a big one. We've already had so many ticks come

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Speaker 3: through on this one story about Generation X, and it

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Speaker 3: made mention that it might be the lost generation? But

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Speaker 2: Gene X is my generation, and I don't think we're forgotten.

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Speaker 2: We just don't jump up and down like millennials and

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Speaker 2: complain and winge about everything. And it's been our entire

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Speaker 2: lives on social media, and we're not the target of

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Speaker 2: the hate of the millennials because they're firing shots over

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Speaker 2: us towards the boomers. And I think the boomers are

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Speaker 2: firing some shots back to the millennials. But I think

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Speaker 2: we're they're quiet powerhouse of generations. I think we're quietly

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Speaker 2: We're the absolute backbones of this country. We had the

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Speaker 2: Everything peaks with.

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Speaker 1: Gen X and we continue to pick.

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Speaker 3: That is a bold statement and we'll get your views

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Speaker 3: on that after three o'clock. After two o'clock you would

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Speaker 3: have heard about this, or maybe you haven't. We GOVI.

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Speaker 3: It is fast becoming very popular. It's a new weight

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Speaker 3: what it does It mimics a hormone in your guts,

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Speaker 3: so that makes you feel full, and it also interacts

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so these injections to stop you eating have been

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Speaker 2: taking them if you're not taking them already. So do

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Speaker 2: they work? And how hard is it to get your

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Speaker 2: I mean how overweight do you have to be before

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Speaker 2: Get what I'm saying. Yeah, you know, rather than the

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Speaker 3: Is there anything wrong with it? Yeah, that's after two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: That would be close to ninety eight percent.

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Speaker 2: You know, the local elections say they represent your city, district,

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Speaker 2: You know, they're involved in so much of our daily lives.

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Speaker 2: Some of the pools, and some of the sewage and

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Speaker 2: I see this as a failing in myself, but I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've seen you. You've been trying all days

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Speaker 2: I got excited because someone in there was from Shortened

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Speaker 2: One of the candidates had a name that sounded like

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Speaker 2: saying that I think this is bad because local body

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Speaker 2: elections have a huge effect on our lives. Massive you know,

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Speaker 2: how important is it? And can we rack people up?

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Speaker 2: Or is it just too low wattage for you and

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Speaker 2: the Hollywood version of the democracy and vote then?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you to hear from you on this one?

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Speaker 3: I had one hundred eighty ten eighty What do you say?

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Speaker 3: How do we fizz up local body elections? How do

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Speaker 3: Yeah? How do we get more buy in? Or is

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Speaker 3: it just too boring? Love to hear it from you?

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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number as well.

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Speaker 2: The sixer says Matt and Tyler. I voted once in

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Speaker 2: local body elections, got a crap out come, so many candidates,

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Speaker 2: so much background and foe to read. It's just too

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Speaker 2: much in my opinion, So I don't bother anymore from Craig. Okay, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's a that's a sorry state of democracy.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not judging you, Craig, because part of me

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's democracy, That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Part of past words.

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Speaker 2: If you really want to change democracy, you have to

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Speaker 2: come up with great ideas and campaign for your side

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Speaker 2: but there is something about local body elections that just

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Speaker 3: They certainly do. But what do you say? You might

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Speaker 3: be quite fizzed up about it, and we'd love to

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Speaker 3: hear why. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons, excused talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be good afternoons. You we're talking about the local

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Speaker 3: hype is almost non existent. But what do you say?

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Speaker 3: How do we jazz it up? And are you interested?

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Speaker 2: Now there's a couple of questions coming through and I

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Speaker 2: elections sign ups can go okay, final electoral role certified

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Speaker 2: by electoral officer on Friday, fifth of September, So can

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Speaker 2: you do? Can you? Because it's all got to be

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Speaker 2: can you? Can you sign up on the day?

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: At the moment, we should get the bottom of that,

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Speaker 2: which yeah, we should because I'm looking at the timeline.

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Speaker 2: Voting papers sent out on the ninth, Voting opens on

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Speaker 2: the ninth, so that's open. Election signs must be removed

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Speaker 2: from all areas on the tenth of October, and voting

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Speaker 2: closes on the eleven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll try and get in touch with the Electoral

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Speaker 3: Commission actually to find out all those details, because it

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Speaker 3: special vote, but those rules might have changed, so we'll

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Speaker 3: get that information for you. Oh, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty to number to call Paula.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much. Hi. So my name's Paula Muler

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Speaker 5: from Willington. I just want to say that I think

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Speaker 5: that you know, I strongly would recommend people to come

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Speaker 5: opportunity to be able to vote. You only need to

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Speaker 5: number the candidates you want. I still, the STV system

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Speaker 5: It's just that people their confidence in the councils has

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Speaker 2: How much research do you think, Paul, how much research

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Speaker 1: Or should we should?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely should be doing your research. I mean, obviously there's

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Speaker 3: Say I'm one of those people and I know I've

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Speaker 3: Can I just leave that blank? So at least I

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Speaker 5: You leave them blank when you've got a boot plot description.

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Speaker 2: But I guess if you haven't, if you don't think

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Speaker 5: A lot of the good candidates should have been sort

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Speaker 1: Just up, no, no.

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Speaker 5: But if you're not going to do that before you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's that's a good point. And

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Speaker 5: So your community.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so if you haven't heard from your candidate,

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Speaker 5: There's a couple of components. I think. Obviously there's that

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: The second thing is that you know, people are unhappy

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Speaker 6: The lah blah.

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Speaker 5: One vote. Is it really going to make a difference

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, why wouldn't you have your say? If

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Speaker 2: Boy, maybe we should take away their right to vote

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Speaker 3: How to do it?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's the typical story, isn't it that? You know,

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Speaker 5: we can select. We put the luxury of being able

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you so much for your call, PAULA

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Speaker 3: very good call. Oh hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people are saying that they vote

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean that happens time and time again,

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Speaker 2: I've got an idea for how people could know more

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Speaker 2: I can already see a lot of problems with it,

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Speaker 3: It's twenty three to one.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 2: To review into the role of Eton Park.

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Speaker 7: They are current rules that there are only six artists

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Speaker 7: and it's just embarrassing how bad we are as the country.

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Speaker 7: Christ Bishop is the REMA reform ministry as well us.

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Speaker 7: Do you feel the same way. It's just pathetic. It's comical,

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Speaker 8: And the worst is therely allowed four concerts in a

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Speaker 1: Want a good run of acts come out, you can't.

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Speaker 7: So why is the announcement about an investigation as opposed

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Speaker 8: Because the law required me to do that, So we

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Speaker 7: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 3: It is twenty six past one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got some information that we were talking

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Speaker 2: about before we have you here we go posting it

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Speaker 2: it posting and ask the question you answer it, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the question was can you make a special

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Speaker 3: it is right now, So posting it any New Zealand

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Speaker 3: on Saturday, the eleventh of October. These will be available

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, like, I'm looking at this booklet here and I'm

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Speaker 2: stuff that kind of means nothing. It's gobly goog. They

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Speaker 2: kind of don't want to offend people anyway, But whats

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Speaker 2: this is my selection. You know, when you're investing on

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Speaker 2: you know ten yeah, out of ten or out of seven.

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Speaker 2: Often it's out of seven, you know, how safe the

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Speaker 2: the rewards you know, potentially higher, but the risk is higher. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what about a bunch of sliding things for each of

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Speaker 2: know how important is public transport? How much important is

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Speaker 2: the you know the unelected officials that make all the

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Speaker 2: I guess it would get political deciding what those ten

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Speaker 3: So I was looking forward to ripping this idea to pieces,

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Speaker 3: But that's actually a good idea. Who doesn't love a shortcut,

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Speaker 2: Charlie says, read the booklet followed up online. I'm now

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Speaker 2: recalled informed about how a big bunch of wounders are

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Speaker 2: read this bet at Charlie got excited and I read

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Speaker 2: informed about how a big bunch of wounders are standing

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Speaker 3: That's a tough position to be in, Charlie Trevor, how

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Speaker 3: are you, evte?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, good eay guys. Yeah, the local council elections, I

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Speaker 10: do believe that there's probably only about twenty or twenty

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Speaker 2: I think of the last election, how many. But it's

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Speaker 2: Some people in some areas are much more engaged than others.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, well I'm down here in Manawa and there's

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Speaker 10: never thought it was, you know, like normal council elections,

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Speaker 10: it's just generally just a bunch of good buggers, you know,

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Speaker 10: want to do the best of their community. But there's

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Speaker 3: Great is that a that's going to sound like a

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Speaker 3: weird thing to say, Trevor, But is that a good

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Speaker 3: just thinking about the old Ray Chung thing in Wellington,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know anybody really who's standing in Wellington.

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Speaker 3: I know there's the old mate from labor who looks

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Speaker 3: like a shoe and at.

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Speaker 1: This point, but it looks like a shoe.

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Speaker 3: Well, you can look like a shit nice leather shoe,

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Speaker 3: but you know some And then Ray sends out that

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Speaker 3: email which was quite funny and pretty lude, and all

446
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, I'm kind of interested, even though I've

447
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Speaker 3: got no skin in the game. So you seen him,

448
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Speaker 3: I saying, a bit of spice, a bit of muck

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Speaker 3: raking might be just the ticket to get people a

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Speaker 3: bit more excited or outraged or both.

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Speaker 10: Possibly, But from what I can see down here, generally

452
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Speaker 10: it's pretty much a foregone conclusion. You get you've got

453
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Speaker 10: people that the far right and the far left in

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Speaker 10: your one side that actually wants the god of the community.

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Speaker 10: They're just conservative, hardworking groups that's in bolts. On the

456
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Speaker 10: other side down here wants cycle ways and they want

457
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Speaker 10: to stop the rubbish, want to put up once a

458
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Speaker 10: month and just all these learning tun stuff that you know,

459
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Speaker 10: like a small percentage will be hilarious about. And then

460
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Speaker 10: you've got three years for the rest of you know,

461
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Speaker 10: the rest of the community to try and put up

462
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Speaker 10: with it. And but the lies that's going on, like

463
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Speaker 10: they're taking sound bites because you can record all those meetings,

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Speaker 10: you know, going back years. You can go into all

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Speaker 10: those meetings that are recorded, and they're taking little sound

466
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Speaker 10: bites and saying, oh, this is what they said, but

467
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Speaker 10: this isn't what people have said at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a big problem, isn't in the current

469
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Speaker 2: age taking things out of context? To me as someone,

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Speaker 2: where are you seeing all this content? Because you know

471
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Speaker 2: I don't live too far from you and that I

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Speaker 2: live in Auckland. But this kind of controversy is not

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Speaker 2: leaking out of South Auckland into central Auckland.

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Speaker 10: No, No, it's not. No, it's just on the Facebook,

475
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Speaker 10: the sort of their individual Facebook pages. So and then

476
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Speaker 10: there's people jumping on their Facebook pages and saying no

477
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Speaker 10: he said this, and no, he did it, and then

478
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Speaker 10: they're going on the other page and people aren't answering

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Speaker 10: the questions.

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Speaker 2: It's spot Do you think that that kind of and

481
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Speaker 2: that people will reveal themselves and what kind of people

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Speaker 2: they are in this sort of back and forth, this

483
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Speaker 2: cauldroom of nastiness, that that sort of shows who someone is.

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Speaker 10: To be honest, I think everyone knows who everyone is,

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Speaker 10: because because when you look at the number the number count,

486
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Speaker 10: there's only been like tweety people that have actually liked

487
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Speaker 10: the page or.

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Speaker 2: Seen that.

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Speaker 10: No, but it's it's it's just hilarious if you go,

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Speaker 10: I can't even I don't really want to say the

491
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Speaker 10: name of the page, but yeah, I think you get

492
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Speaker 10: the idea. Yeah, yeah, it'll be it'll be all sorted out.

493
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Speaker 10: But one thing I have seen generally these people on

494
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Speaker 10: the councils, they are hardworking bunch, well most of them.

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Speaker 10: We did have one guy this year was a bit

496
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Speaker 10: of a scam. He made all the news. He's duffed

497
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Speaker 10: off back to You might have heard that one when

498
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Speaker 10: the said he was had a law degree and all

499
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Speaker 10: he'd done is a four week course in COVID.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, when he's one of the yeah of the

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Speaker 10: mood in side. Yeah, he's still clicking a paycheck. Actually,

503
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Speaker 10: he reckons he was going to give up. Thanks the

504
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Speaker 10: other thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thank you for your call, Trevor.

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Speaker 3: We'll look up well, we'll try and hunt down that Facebook.

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Speaker 3: But good luck and money ray where it sounds like

508
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Speaker 3: it's certainly heating up there. I W one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty its number of cool. But you know,

510
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Speaker 3: am I am I a bit wacky by saying that

511
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Speaker 3: that a bit of spice and a bit of Archie barge,

512
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Speaker 3: he gets people raked up. And for the sensible people

513
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Speaker 3: out there in Runaway where in Trivia sounded like a

514
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Speaker 3: pretty sensible guy. He'll figure out who the nutcases are

515
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Speaker 3: by the very fact that they're trying to sling mud

516
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Speaker 3: for something like local body eleections.

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Speaker 2: I mean, get a grap Yeah, I mean when we

518
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Speaker 2: started that chat with Trevor, I thought, wow, this is

519
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Speaker 2: some back and forth and some scandal, and then twenty

520
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Speaker 2: lights on the Facebook. Pasey, it's not quite the scan

521
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Speaker 2: we want. But this sextus says, don't care. The buggers

522
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Speaker 2: put up the rates higher than people can afford. Whoever

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Speaker 2: gets in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean a lot of people are outraged

525
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Speaker 3: about the rates. But if you don't vote, then you've

526
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Speaker 3: got no say. But what do you say now? Our

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: We've got headlines with Wendy coming up and then plenty

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Speaker 3: of calls to get to.

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Speaker 1: Youth talk.

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Speaker 9: Said the headlines, we's blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

532
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Speaker 9: with the blue bubble. The government's cracking down on international

533
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Speaker 9: adoption laws and the name of child protection. The urgent

534
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Speaker 9: changes will immediately stop kiwis from adopting children while overseas

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Speaker 9: and bringing them back to New Zealand. An RNZ Read

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Speaker 9: Research poll of one thousand voters shows forty two point

537
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Speaker 9: five percent of people say New Zealand should recognize Palestinian statehood.

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Speaker 9: It comes as a government weighs up its options on

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Speaker 9: the issue, with a decision to be made next week

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Speaker 9: ahead of a UN summit in New York. Attorney General

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Speaker 9: Judith Collins has a message to people speculating about the

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Speaker 9: Tom Phillips saga, saying the needs of the children come first.

543
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Speaker 9: It comes after the leader of Child Matters pen an

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Speaker 9: open letter opposing a documentary on the situation and Labour's leaders.

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Speaker 9: There's documents from two party Maori president are unacceptable. John

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Speaker 9: Tarmaheaty agreed with comments from MP Tacouter Ferris who claimed

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Speaker 9: ethnic labor volunteers shouldn't campaign in Mary's seats. Chris Hepkins

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Speaker 9: says if the comments reflect to party Mary's views, it

549
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Speaker 9: would be difficult to work with them. Plus Deddy decline

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Speaker 9: what is defend peach cut backs, saying kiwis aren't buying

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Speaker 9: as many see the full story It ends at Herald Premium.

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Speaker 9: Now back to Matton Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. When you we're talking about the

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Speaker 3: local body elections, you can vote now. Voting is open

555
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Speaker 3: until October the eleventh. Are you fizzed up about it

556
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Speaker 3: or do you just not care?

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Speaker 2: So we're talking to Trevor before, and I've gone to

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Speaker 2: that Facebook page that's firing up in South Auckland about

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Speaker 2: the political situation there and making the election a little

560
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Speaker 2: more exciting locability elections. Maybe I'm the wrong place because

561
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Speaker 2: all I can see is the chess freezer for sale. Right,

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Speaker 2: there's some oysters available night um look pretty good. There's

563
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Speaker 2: there's free some bikes and a couple of dryers to

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Speaker 2: a good home. So yeah, I'm not seeing a lot

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Speaker 2: of hot political back and forth yet, but I'll keep searching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm muffins.

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Speaker 2: Someone's got some muffins.

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Speaker 3: I might just message with them about that chest freezer actually,

569
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Speaker 3: because that looks pretty good and it's free.

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Speaker 2: These brand muffins they look pretty good as well. They's

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Speaker 2: got sixty three likes those brand muffins.

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Speaker 3: I can see why eighty ten eighty is a number

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Speaker 3: to call.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, I used my local body voting papers to

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Speaker 2: light the fire last night.

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Speaker 4: Cheers.

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Speaker 2: Well, at least you're engaging. Yeah, Someway, Debbie, welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 11: Hello. I got my voting papers on Friday, and I'm

580
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Speaker 11: new to the areas, so I don't know any of

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Speaker 11: the candidates. And when I looked in the little wook

582
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Speaker 11: clot it gave me no idea except some visual appearance

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Speaker 11: whether they were left or right. Fortunately, the green person

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Speaker 11: fessed up and said they were green, so I was

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Speaker 11: able to strike them off. I have a terrible allergy

586
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Speaker 11: towards the left, and so I don't want to vote

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Speaker 11: for any lefties. But it gave no indication and most

588
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Speaker 11: of them did not put a contact email address, so

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Speaker 11: I can't contact them.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because you know, in the general election, you

591
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Speaker 2: know which party people I mean, you know there are independents,

592
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Speaker 2: but generally you see what party someone is going for. Obviously, yes,

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Speaker 2: And you know in America then and all their elections

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Speaker 2: that people are Democrats, are Republicans. And I know the

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Speaker 2: ACT Party has putting candidates out there that are affiliated

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Speaker 2: to the ACT Party. But it is interesting that in

597
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Speaker 2: local body elections, generally speaking, it's not the main parties

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Speaker 2: that everyone knows is basically what they stand for. So

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Speaker 2: do you think that would be handy? I mean, obviously

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Speaker 2: we can't force that because we want indevenience, but do

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Speaker 2: you think that the major parties should get out there

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Speaker 2: and make it clear who they're endorsing more?

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Speaker 11: Yes, And they no longer have those public meetings where

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Speaker 11: you can go along and ask questions of the candidates.

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Speaker 11: That doesn't happen anymore, so you know, it's just a

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Speaker 11: big calm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll think if you are call gebby this Texas says.

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Speaker 2: The reason it's so challenging to vote in the local

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Speaker 2: body election is because most local body counselors don't actually

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Speaker 2: get out in the community enough, so nobody knows who

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Speaker 2: they are, so it makes it even more challenging to

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Speaker 2: learn who they are are just an election time. So

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Speaker 2: it's still good to vote, But how are you supposed

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Speaker 2: to vote for the right person if no one knows

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Speaker 2: who they are? As for the weight loss injections, we'll

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Speaker 2: get back to you on that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's coming up after two o'clock.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love someone that addresses two issues that we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: The old double topic. Yeah, Debbie, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 12: Good morning that Look, I'm Debbie and I'm actually a

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Speaker 12: candidate for in christ search, so I I'd love to

624
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Speaker 12: answer a couple of your questions. You obviously answered the

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Speaker 12: one before about when the papers are all out to

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Speaker 12: you and special voting and things like that, so that's

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Speaker 12: really good. The other thing, too, was you asked, can

628
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Speaker 12: you lead parts of your vote and paper blank just

629
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Speaker 12: vote for one thing? Yes you can, so you know,

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Speaker 12: absolutely you can. I mean my you know, I know

631
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Speaker 12: plenty of people that are doing that because they don't

632
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Speaker 12: know enough about the other people and I and that's

633
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Speaker 12: their prerogative to do that you know without anything, you know,

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Speaker 12: I said, well, you know your informations there, but they

635
00:28:52,933 --> 00:28:55,013
Speaker 12: just don't want to They just want to vote a

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Speaker 12: certain way. And then and I thought, well, good on

637
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Speaker 12: you for just wanting to do that anyway, whatever you

638
00:29:00,933 --> 00:29:04,533
Speaker 12: decide to do. I think what's really important is that

639
00:29:04,653 --> 00:29:08,333
Speaker 12: people understand. It's really sad to hear the prior callers

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Speaker 12: saying that there's no public meetings. I've got I'm doing

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Speaker 12: six stuff this week in christ Church, including last week

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Speaker 12: and then next week at the university campus as well.

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Speaker 12: So there's pet going on in different areas. So any

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Speaker 12: group can actually create the event, whether it's a church

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Speaker 12: group or residents association group, or whether it's the university

646
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Speaker 12: group as well. So and that's the way that they

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Speaker 12: get their feedback as well, because I totally understand we

648
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Speaker 12: are only limited to one hundred and fifty words to

649
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Speaker 12: tell you a little bit about ourselves, and that's quite

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Speaker 12: limited to do that.

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Speaker 2: But it's also do you think do you think the

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Speaker 2: people you know, if you look through the booklet that

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Speaker 2: you're in with other people, do you think the people

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Speaker 2: that are you know, vying for the vote get out

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Speaker 2: there and spend enough time telling people what they believe

656
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Speaker 2: in and getting no one out there. Do you think

657
00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:03,133
Speaker 2: across the board there's enough effort put into that. I'm

658
00:30:03,173 --> 00:30:05,853
Speaker 2: sure it's it differs between candidate, But do you think

659
00:30:05,893 --> 00:30:07,973
Speaker 2: that that Do you see a lot of campaigning?

660
00:30:09,053 --> 00:30:11,093
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, I do see a lot of campaign I

661
00:30:11,173 --> 00:30:13,693
Speaker 12: see a lot of people spending money on getting their

662
00:30:13,773 --> 00:30:17,413
Speaker 12: name out there, but that still doesn't tell you a

663
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Speaker 12: lot about them. I've been fortunate that I'm an incumbent

664
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Speaker 12: and have been for full term, so I'm fortunate that

665
00:30:27,373 --> 00:30:30,053
Speaker 12: a lot of people recognize me, my.

666
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Speaker 13: Name, etc. And know what I do in the community,

667
00:30:32,533 --> 00:30:34,693
Speaker 13: which I'm hoping for. It's a lot of weight for me.

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00:30:36,613 --> 00:30:39,733
Speaker 12: I think what's important for people to also understand is

669
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Speaker 12: the political leaning groups, and that may be different from

670
00:30:44,213 --> 00:30:46,693
Speaker 12: region to region as well. So there's left and right

671
00:30:46,733 --> 00:30:49,333
Speaker 12: and then there's in the middle of the road independent

672
00:30:49,373 --> 00:30:51,253
Speaker 12: And that's why a lot of people wonder what does

673
00:30:51,293 --> 00:30:55,853
Speaker 12: independent actually mean? Like I'm independent, and I had the

674
00:30:55,933 --> 00:30:58,573
Speaker 12: press the other day saying, well, you're independent, but what

675
00:30:58,613 --> 00:31:00,733
Speaker 12: does that mean if you fit left or right around

676
00:31:00,733 --> 00:31:02,053
Speaker 12: the table? Are you going to sit left or are

677
00:31:02,053 --> 00:31:04,093
Speaker 12: you going to sit right? And I said, well, the

678
00:31:04,573 --> 00:31:06,853
Speaker 12: joy about being independent is that I can sit in

679
00:31:06,893 --> 00:31:10,613
Speaker 12: your vigility, common sense decisions that are wanting to be made,

680
00:31:10,853 --> 00:31:13,693
Speaker 12: So I don't need to sit with a political grouping

681
00:31:14,413 --> 00:31:18,253
Speaker 12: on being told how to vote. I think you need

682
00:31:18,293 --> 00:31:20,413
Speaker 12: to vote how the people want you to vote. And

683
00:31:20,533 --> 00:31:22,933
Speaker 12: I think that's that's why I've put my hand up.

684
00:31:22,973 --> 00:31:25,853
Speaker 3: Anyway, there should be a little bit transparent, though, Debbie,

685
00:31:25,933 --> 00:31:28,133
Speaker 3: about who you could align with on the council, right,

686
00:31:28,173 --> 00:31:30,653
Speaker 3: because I know there's plenty of independence. They put their

687
00:31:30,693 --> 00:31:33,493
Speaker 3: hand up and they probably are independent, but they still

688
00:31:34,133 --> 00:31:38,813
Speaker 3: have counselors who they would prefer to work with and

689
00:31:38,893 --> 00:31:41,773
Speaker 3: whatever metrics you use, and sometimes that's along party lines.

690
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Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely, And look I've already had words with some

691
00:31:46,093 --> 00:31:48,413
Speaker 12: councilors and they say that that you know obviously work

692
00:31:48,493 --> 00:31:50,693
Speaker 12: well with me. I've put my hand up for a

693
00:31:50,693 --> 00:31:54,493
Speaker 12: specific reason because in our particular Bard, for instance, we've

694
00:31:54,493 --> 00:31:59,413
Speaker 12: got independent representation one ward, independent representation in another. And

695
00:31:59,493 --> 00:32:01,693
Speaker 12: so I'm standing in a ward where there is not

696
00:32:01,893 --> 00:32:06,773
Speaker 12: that independent representation because we're outnumbered. The councilor is currently

697
00:32:06,893 --> 00:32:10,653
Speaker 12: outnumbered by about two or three, and so they want

698
00:32:11,093 --> 00:32:14,053
Speaker 12: more of the independent representatives around the table.

699
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Speaker 2: Now, Debbie when it comes to voting, and this is

700
00:32:19,173 --> 00:32:22,053
Speaker 2: I think a lot of focuses on the mayor. How

701
00:32:22,093 --> 00:32:25,453
Speaker 2: important is the mayor compared, in your opinion, compared to

702
00:32:25,893 --> 00:32:28,613
Speaker 2: the people that are elected around around the mayor.

703
00:32:29,773 --> 00:32:32,333
Speaker 12: Oh, you mean the council. Okay, so there are a counselors.

704
00:32:32,413 --> 00:32:35,493
Speaker 12: And let's remember that the voting structures are different around

705
00:32:35,533 --> 00:32:39,893
Speaker 12: the country. We have STV, which is a good system

706
00:32:40,533 --> 00:32:43,653
Speaker 12: because it allows you to vote who's actually making decisions

707
00:32:43,653 --> 00:32:46,653
Speaker 12: for you. Here in christ you're only allowed to vote

708
00:32:46,653 --> 00:32:50,493
Speaker 12: for one counselor and you're making decisions for the entire city.

709
00:32:52,373 --> 00:32:57,253
Speaker 12: So what's the difference, Well, no difference really, other than

710
00:32:57,293 --> 00:33:02,213
Speaker 12: perhaps the salary. The mayor is just one vote around

711
00:33:02,253 --> 00:33:06,653
Speaker 12: the council table and that's just you know. So, if

712
00:33:06,653 --> 00:33:10,853
Speaker 12: you're voting for a right leaning a MIA, then I'm

713
00:33:10,893 --> 00:33:14,853
Speaker 12: presuming you'd want to vote for right leaning you know,

714
00:33:15,373 --> 00:33:19,933
Speaker 12: in a right leaning Countil candidates as well. Yeah, and

715
00:33:19,973 --> 00:33:21,733
Speaker 12: the other and the other way. If you're voting for

716
00:33:21,773 --> 00:33:26,453
Speaker 12: a less leaning MIA, then I'm presuming that some would

717
00:33:26,493 --> 00:33:27,973
Speaker 12: want to vote the other way as well.

718
00:33:28,493 --> 00:33:29,573
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Debbie.

719
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting.

720
00:33:30,973 --> 00:33:32,293
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone was saying.

721
00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:34,533
Speaker 2: Here that they have their booklet through chat GPT, and

722
00:33:34,573 --> 00:33:39,573
Speaker 2: it listed the political position of just by reading the

723
00:33:39,653 --> 00:33:42,653
Speaker 2: paragraphs that the candidates are put in listed where they

724
00:33:42,693 --> 00:33:45,813
Speaker 2: said on the political spectrum. If that's the way you

725
00:33:45,853 --> 00:33:48,573
Speaker 2: want to judge it, yeah, then and if you are

726
00:33:48,613 --> 00:33:53,173
Speaker 2: willing to believe chat GPT's analysis, yeah, I mean, some

727
00:33:53,173 --> 00:33:55,853
Speaker 2: people think that the AI overlords are coming, So I

728
00:33:55,933 --> 00:33:58,973
Speaker 2: want to speed it up by just shoving your electric

729
00:33:59,053 --> 00:34:01,413
Speaker 2: book through AI and seeing what it wants.

730
00:34:01,453 --> 00:34:04,053
Speaker 3: Get on the bandwag and early right it is thirteen

731
00:34:04,133 --> 00:34:05,573
Speaker 3: to two, beg very shortly.

732
00:34:05,613 --> 00:34:06,693
Speaker 2: The more of your calls.

733
00:34:08,172 --> 00:34:12,653
Speaker 1: You're home of afternoon Talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons

734
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Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty youth Talk said, be very good.

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Speaker 3: Afternoons You're eleven to two. A whole bunch of texts

736
00:34:19,573 --> 00:34:20,493
Speaker 3: that comes through on this one.

737
00:34:21,013 --> 00:34:24,773
Speaker 2: Gabby is proving the problem of current political landscape. Why

738
00:34:24,773 --> 00:34:27,813
Speaker 2: shouldn't it matter whether they stand left or right? It

739
00:34:27,853 --> 00:34:32,013
Speaker 2: should stand It should be what they stand for on principle. Yeah,

740
00:34:32,533 --> 00:34:37,133
Speaker 2: And I guess ultimately you'd want someone that voted on

741
00:34:37,253 --> 00:34:44,053
Speaker 2: each issue logically and from a principal position. But equally,

742
00:34:44,093 --> 00:34:46,933
Speaker 2: people don't seem to have much time or inclination to

743
00:34:47,013 --> 00:34:50,373
Speaker 2: really look into what these councilors actually believe in or

744
00:34:50,413 --> 00:34:53,013
Speaker 2: know enough about them to know how they would vote.

745
00:34:54,053 --> 00:34:56,613
Speaker 2: So a lot of people texting through would like to

746
00:34:56,653 --> 00:34:58,613
Speaker 2: know where they sit on the political spectrum. But I

747
00:34:58,693 --> 00:35:01,053
Speaker 2: do actually think it's massively problematic that we look at

748
00:35:01,053 --> 00:35:05,133
Speaker 2: everything in terms of left and right, because quite often

749
00:35:05,733 --> 00:35:08,573
Speaker 2: left and right will swap and their opinions going, you know,

750
00:35:08,613 --> 00:35:10,453
Speaker 2: and there's things on. You know, it's not as simple

751
00:35:10,493 --> 00:35:12,053
Speaker 2: as lift people vote like that's the right.

752
00:35:12,093 --> 00:35:14,293
Speaker 3: People vote like that, yep, not quarters black and white,

753
00:35:14,493 --> 00:35:18,172
Speaker 3: especially when they get in Yeah, Francisco, how are you?

754
00:35:19,133 --> 00:35:19,333
Speaker 6: Yes?

755
00:35:19,893 --> 00:35:20,453
Speaker 13: How are you?

756
00:35:20,813 --> 00:35:21,533
Speaker 1: Very good friends?

757
00:35:22,213 --> 00:35:22,413
Speaker 10: Yes?

758
00:35:23,453 --> 00:35:28,053
Speaker 14: I agree completely with the first scholar Allah when she

759
00:35:28,213 --> 00:35:33,573
Speaker 14: said she explained very well, you know about going to

760
00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:40,973
Speaker 14: or sending the vote for the coming election. Look, it's Cantabrians,

761
00:35:41,053 --> 00:35:46,013
Speaker 14: haven't don't be lazy, same same. It's easier now every

762
00:35:46,093 --> 00:35:50,493
Speaker 14: every corner, for example, in the supermarkets you can find

763
00:35:50,533 --> 00:35:54,853
Speaker 14: as well the places where you can drop your vote.

764
00:35:54,933 --> 00:35:59,373
Speaker 14: So it's nothing to do with doing uh, I don't know,

765
00:36:00,173 --> 00:36:05,093
Speaker 14: going somewhere where nobody it's difficult to find, you know, places,

766
00:36:05,733 --> 00:36:08,533
Speaker 14: and this time it is going to be crucial as well, well,

767
00:36:08,573 --> 00:36:13,493
Speaker 14: because every year I am a retired person, okay, I

768
00:36:13,533 --> 00:36:17,933
Speaker 14: am a pensioner, and every year seeing the rage rising

769
00:36:18,173 --> 00:36:23,453
Speaker 14: rising rising really is very very depressing. Okay, So it's

770
00:36:23,573 --> 00:36:28,813
Speaker 14: not I think. I think something has to be done

771
00:36:29,093 --> 00:36:32,853
Speaker 14: in the near future otherwise this thing is not going

772
00:36:32,893 --> 00:36:38,172
Speaker 14: to stop, especially for people that own homes, all right.

773
00:36:38,773 --> 00:36:42,133
Speaker 14: And this is the maya that we need to do

774
00:36:42,973 --> 00:36:48,732
Speaker 14: as well. To elect needs to be a person who

775
00:36:48,853 --> 00:36:52,333
Speaker 14: serves the city, not the city to serve that person

776
00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:56,453
Speaker 14: either a man or a woman. Okay. So this is

777
00:36:56,573 --> 00:37:01,853
Speaker 14: for me important and I come from Peru. In Peru, look,

778
00:37:02,413 --> 00:37:05,692
Speaker 14: this is like a suggestion, okay. So if it's so

779
00:37:05,853 --> 00:37:08,772
Speaker 14: easy here for people to say no, no, I don't

780
00:37:08,813 --> 00:37:11,692
Speaker 14: care about going to vote, who cares about.

781
00:37:11,413 --> 00:37:12,693
Speaker 15: The new.

782
00:37:14,173 --> 00:37:16,613
Speaker 14: Maya or the new prime minister?

783
00:37:17,373 --> 00:37:17,853
Speaker 4: Okay?

784
00:37:18,133 --> 00:37:21,013
Speaker 14: Over there, if you don't go to vote, all right,

785
00:37:21,693 --> 00:37:28,172
Speaker 14: you are fine with about forty New Zealand dollars okay, right,

786
00:37:28,733 --> 00:37:32,853
Speaker 14: And if you don't don't pay for a while you

787
00:37:33,053 --> 00:37:37,493
Speaker 14: even are I don't know how can but you can

788
00:37:37,733 --> 00:37:42,213
Speaker 14: do your papers at the bank, for example, because they

789
00:37:42,253 --> 00:37:46,212
Speaker 14: will ask you for if you had your over there

790
00:37:47,093 --> 00:37:55,733
Speaker 14: in Peru, for example, if you had your ID okay,

791
00:37:56,093 --> 00:38:00,373
Speaker 14: with the with with that thingle that this it says,

792
00:38:00,613 --> 00:38:03,373
Speaker 14: yes has been this person has vote.

793
00:38:04,013 --> 00:38:07,373
Speaker 3: It's a great point, Francisco and yep it certainly it's

794
00:38:07,413 --> 00:38:09,173
Speaker 3: pretty easy. Pretty one of.

795
00:38:09,173 --> 00:38:11,613
Speaker 2: Those easy to vote here. Also, you don't have to

796
00:38:11,653 --> 00:38:13,333
Speaker 2: do it every month, you don't have to do it

797
00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:14,053
Speaker 2: every three years.

798
00:38:14,053 --> 00:38:14,773
Speaker 3: Thank God for that.

799
00:38:14,973 --> 00:38:15,253
Speaker 16: It is.

800
00:38:15,493 --> 00:38:17,773
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for you all, Francisco, seven to two.

801
00:38:19,133 --> 00:38:22,692
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

802
00:38:22,733 --> 00:38:25,333
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams

803
00:38:25,413 --> 00:38:28,613
Speaker 1: afternoons NEWSTALGSB News Talks B.

804
00:38:28,893 --> 00:38:29,652
Speaker 3: It is forty two.

805
00:38:29,813 --> 00:38:32,133
Speaker 2: Hey, lads. Down here in Christ, some legend has created

806
00:38:32,173 --> 00:38:35,493
Speaker 2: a website called how They Voted dot z easy as

807
00:38:35,573 --> 00:38:37,853
Speaker 2: to tell who you're voting for as it shows you

808
00:38:38,173 --> 00:38:40,692
Speaker 2: what the candidate has previously voted for. We all know

809
00:38:40,773 --> 00:38:43,893
Speaker 2: they fluff and hide what they're really about in the booklet.

810
00:38:44,293 --> 00:38:46,853
Speaker 2: This website's facts and figures everywhere, which is handy for

811
00:38:46,893 --> 00:38:47,973
Speaker 2: someone that's been in there before.

812
00:38:48,093 --> 00:38:50,252
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a legend. Fantastic right. We're going to carry

813
00:38:50,253 --> 00:38:51,573
Speaker 3: this on because so many people want to have a

814
00:38:51,613 --> 00:38:55,253
Speaker 3: chat about it. There's low call politics too, boring, refizzed.

815
00:38:54,773 --> 00:38:59,773
Speaker 1: Up talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and

816
00:38:59,853 --> 00:39:03,493
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons NEWSTALGSB.

817
00:39:04,173 --> 00:39:07,573
Speaker 3: Afternoon to you, welcome back into the show. Seven past two.

818
00:39:07,693 --> 00:39:10,653
Speaker 3: We're going to carry on our discussion about local body elections.

819
00:39:10,653 --> 00:39:13,813
Speaker 3: It's underway now. You can vote if you want to today.

820
00:39:14,453 --> 00:39:17,533
Speaker 3: Voting is open until October the eleventh. But are you

821
00:39:17,573 --> 00:39:19,853
Speaker 3: fizzed up about it? Or is it just too boring?

822
00:39:19,893 --> 00:39:22,173
Speaker 3: And if it is too boring, what needs to happen

823
00:39:22,253 --> 00:39:23,973
Speaker 3: to get some excitement into it?

824
00:39:24,053 --> 00:39:27,373
Speaker 2: Well, this Texas is boys. You want buying on council elections,

825
00:39:27,453 --> 00:39:29,213
Speaker 2: just hold them the same day as the general election.

826
00:39:29,413 --> 00:39:31,613
Speaker 2: Do all your voting in one hit. What is the

827
00:39:31,733 --> 00:39:34,893
Speaker 2: logic around that? We tried to talk to someone in

828
00:39:34,973 --> 00:39:39,053
Speaker 2: charge of local body elections nationwide. Not easy to find

829
00:39:39,053 --> 00:39:43,293
Speaker 2: someone because all the areas are run a slightly different situation. Yeah,

830
00:39:43,333 --> 00:39:44,773
Speaker 2: we thought we'd just be able to get the Orange

831
00:39:44,813 --> 00:39:48,373
Speaker 2: guy on the phone, but he's not willing to fiss up.

832
00:39:48,413 --> 00:39:50,013
Speaker 3: They stand him down for three years to say.

833
00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:53,373
Speaker 2: The Orange guy is local as well as he is.

834
00:39:53,413 --> 00:39:54,692
Speaker 2: Are they still using the Orange Guy?

835
00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:56,653
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yes, the Orange Guy still around. I

836
00:39:56,653 --> 00:39:57,133
Speaker 3: love that guy.

837
00:39:57,173 --> 00:39:58,933
Speaker 2: He's triggering for people. You know, I work in the

838
00:39:58,973 --> 00:40:03,253
Speaker 2: animation industry. The poor quality of that animation. It's like

839
00:40:03,333 --> 00:40:06,293
Speaker 2: what you learn at Commuter Science a university, the first

840
00:40:06,333 --> 00:40:08,173
Speaker 2: piece of animation you do. Anyway, that's he needs to

841
00:40:08,773 --> 00:40:12,533
Speaker 2: That's a side issue. Yeah, maybe he's been Maybe he's

842
00:40:12,533 --> 00:40:15,613
Speaker 2: been put to rest afternoon too. My biggest issue is

843
00:40:15,733 --> 00:40:18,253
Speaker 2: I believe Wellington Council haven't done a very good job

844
00:40:18,293 --> 00:40:21,253
Speaker 2: and it affects our suburb. But as us who live

845
00:40:21,373 --> 00:40:23,493
Speaker 2: in the surrounding areas don't have a say in how

846
00:40:23,573 --> 00:40:27,533
Speaker 2: Wellington Council works, So what do we do? Yeah, I

847
00:40:27,533 --> 00:40:30,172
Speaker 2: mean that's an interesting thing if the effect of your

848
00:40:30,213 --> 00:40:34,253
Speaker 2: council leaks into areas around it. But that isn't covered

849
00:40:34,293 --> 00:40:40,133
Speaker 2: by the you know, the general government, Yeah, the central government.

850
00:40:40,213 --> 00:40:43,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a big for shock. Yeah, and how

851
00:40:43,173 --> 00:40:44,692
Speaker 3: are you good?

852
00:40:44,733 --> 00:40:49,253
Speaker 17: Thank you? I could not resist calling you. Couple of

853
00:40:49,253 --> 00:40:52,692
Speaker 17: weeks ago. You had one of my local area candidates

854
00:40:53,453 --> 00:40:57,133
Speaker 17: on the phone to the mat and Tyler Showy. He

855
00:40:57,333 --> 00:41:00,692
Speaker 17: and his wife were standing for local council because they

856
00:41:00,693 --> 00:41:04,053
Speaker 17: wanted to give back to their community. Yep, well, my

857
00:41:04,213 --> 00:41:06,893
Speaker 17: local area, which I believe Tyler is your local area

858
00:41:07,733 --> 00:41:11,933
Speaker 17: held a meeting last night to meet the candidates, right,

859
00:41:12,773 --> 00:41:17,573
Speaker 17: and this wonderful couple and any anyone who's actually still

860
00:41:17,613 --> 00:41:21,053
Speaker 17: on the on this particular board. Although they were invited

861
00:41:21,093 --> 00:41:22,813
Speaker 17: to the meeting, not one of them turned up.

862
00:41:23,533 --> 00:41:26,692
Speaker 2: Neither of the couple, neither of that couple turned up.

863
00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:29,773
Speaker 17: Neither did any any any of the people that were

864
00:41:29,813 --> 00:41:33,053
Speaker 17: standing or who are already on the board and standing

865
00:41:33,053 --> 00:41:33,973
Speaker 17: again turned up.

866
00:41:34,093 --> 00:41:35,013
Speaker 2: So who turned up.

867
00:41:36,773 --> 00:41:39,253
Speaker 17: Are the candidates for other candidates.

868
00:41:39,293 --> 00:41:42,253
Speaker 2: So no candidates that were actually on that have actually

869
00:41:42,253 --> 00:41:44,133
Speaker 2: been currently in powers.

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00:41:44,133 --> 00:41:46,853
Speaker 17: Just the Mount Welling Mount Wellington Licensing Trust.

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00:41:46,573 --> 00:41:51,773
Speaker 3: Board, right, And so they were organizing this pardon the

872
00:41:51,773 --> 00:41:55,053
Speaker 3: Wellington Licensing Trust. Mount Wellington Licensing Trust was running it.

873
00:41:55,813 --> 00:41:58,253
Speaker 17: No, they weren't running them, but they were invited to it.

874
00:41:59,133 --> 00:42:03,413
Speaker 17: There was a there was a local group who had

875
00:42:03,413 --> 00:42:06,333
Speaker 17: a meeting to come meet come and meet you candidates,

876
00:42:07,213 --> 00:42:11,293
Speaker 17: right and the crowd and he was on your stasion

877
00:42:11,333 --> 00:42:15,253
Speaker 17: the other day about how he wanted to give back

878
00:42:15,293 --> 00:42:18,493
Speaker 17: to the community. And they were personally invited and they

879
00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:19,133
Speaker 17: didn't turn up.

880
00:42:19,213 --> 00:42:21,693
Speaker 2: How many people were at the function.

881
00:42:21,533 --> 00:42:24,172
Speaker 17: And I really don't know, but fifty I think, oh.

882
00:42:24,093 --> 00:42:26,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's definitely worth talking to fifty people

883
00:42:26,333 --> 00:42:28,413
Speaker 2: one on one one.

884
00:42:28,293 --> 00:42:30,973
Speaker 17: Last night been might not have been as much, but

885
00:42:31,053 --> 00:42:33,933
Speaker 17: it was just people who were genuinely interested. We wouldn't

886
00:42:33,973 --> 00:42:37,133
Speaker 17: have gone to the meeting if we weren't genuinely interested.

887
00:42:37,573 --> 00:42:40,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you'd think they'd be looking for You'd

888
00:42:40,013 --> 00:42:43,013
Speaker 2: think they'd be looking for opportunities. If they're wanting to stand,

889
00:42:43,173 --> 00:42:45,013
Speaker 2: they're looking for opportunities to talk to people.

890
00:42:45,213 --> 00:42:46,573
Speaker 3: Do you think there was a there was a good

891
00:42:46,613 --> 00:42:48,212
Speaker 3: reason why they didn't turn up me in.

892
00:42:48,453 --> 00:42:50,853
Speaker 17: No, Tyler, but he's in your area and he t

893
00:42:51,253 --> 00:42:55,853
Speaker 17: was the one that I heard say to you in

894
00:42:55,933 --> 00:42:59,773
Speaker 17: your area, So just don't go when you recognize the name.

895
00:42:59,973 --> 00:43:02,133
Speaker 2: Now, And why didn't Tyler turn up to this meeting?

896
00:43:02,173 --> 00:43:03,773
Speaker 2: That's why I want to know he's in the area.

897
00:43:03,893 --> 00:43:04,333
Speaker 4: He wasn't.

898
00:43:04,733 --> 00:43:06,853
Speaker 17: Well he might.

899
00:43:07,933 --> 00:43:10,453
Speaker 3: And I turned up late and they'd shut the doors

900
00:43:10,493 --> 00:43:10,652
Speaker 3: on me.

901
00:43:10,653 --> 00:43:11,293
Speaker 2: They'd been drinking.

902
00:43:11,453 --> 00:43:14,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was you know, I understood there'd be sandwiches,

903
00:43:14,693 --> 00:43:16,252
Speaker 3: and there was no sandwiches. I took off.

904
00:43:16,573 --> 00:43:17,693
Speaker 17: There were any sandwiches.

905
00:43:18,653 --> 00:43:20,373
Speaker 3: What was that about? Not even a biscuit? You know,

906
00:43:20,413 --> 00:43:20,853
Speaker 3: it's hungry.

907
00:43:21,013 --> 00:43:23,133
Speaker 2: Thank you Ann for your call, But I mean, you

908
00:43:23,293 --> 00:43:26,773
Speaker 2: think that you know, that's your opportunity to campaign. Absolutely, yeah,

909
00:43:26,853 --> 00:43:29,293
Speaker 2: I'm in this person here saying. A meryoral candidate was

910
00:43:29,333 --> 00:43:32,893
Speaker 2: at a local farmer's market on Saturday, stood by a

911
00:43:32,973 --> 00:43:36,133
Speaker 2: sign written car the entire time, did not introduce himself

912
00:43:36,173 --> 00:43:39,053
Speaker 2: around the stalls, did not give a friendly family face

913
00:43:39,333 --> 00:43:42,213
Speaker 2: to my kids. I stopped a chat. He did not

914
00:43:42,293 --> 00:43:44,773
Speaker 2: ask me anything, not that it's about me, but if

915
00:43:44,813 --> 00:43:46,533
Speaker 2: I'm going to vote for a new mayor, I want

916
00:43:46,613 --> 00:43:49,253
Speaker 2: to feel you care about people first. I've met a

917
00:43:49,333 --> 00:43:51,853
Speaker 2: number of politicians in my life and some of them

918
00:43:52,533 --> 00:43:55,493
Speaker 2: just the way they work a room is quite impressive.

919
00:43:56,253 --> 00:43:58,453
Speaker 2: You know, the handshakes, look you in the eyes, that

920
00:43:58,613 --> 00:44:02,853
Speaker 2: ask you questions, the just influence the entire room. And

921
00:44:02,973 --> 00:44:05,533
Speaker 2: some of the most successful candidates that are like that,

922
00:44:06,253 --> 00:44:09,093
Speaker 2: they have an ability to engage in entire room. And

923
00:44:09,573 --> 00:44:11,333
Speaker 2: you know, not how many people are there, you know,

924
00:44:11,373 --> 00:44:13,453
Speaker 2: if it's five, ten fifty to twenty one.

925
00:44:13,373 --> 00:44:16,013
Speaker 3: Hundred, yep, I've got the one thousand gift of the gab,

926
00:44:16,053 --> 00:44:17,893
Speaker 3: don't they? And aura about them that you know they're

927
00:44:17,893 --> 00:44:18,253
Speaker 3: in the room.

928
00:44:18,453 --> 00:44:21,133
Speaker 2: Well, they want to be engaged with people, and it

929
00:44:21,133 --> 00:44:23,652
Speaker 2: seems silly to run for office if you're not someone

930
00:44:23,733 --> 00:44:25,693
Speaker 2: that wants to press the flesh and hear what people

931
00:44:25,733 --> 00:44:28,653
Speaker 2: have to say. You know, if you're a massive introvert

932
00:44:28,693 --> 00:44:31,573
Speaker 2: and just want to stay inside and sit by yourself,

933
00:44:32,173 --> 00:44:33,732
Speaker 2: it's probably not the right gig for stare.

934
00:44:33,773 --> 00:44:35,573
Speaker 3: Buy your car and say nothing. Just don't go to

935
00:44:35,613 --> 00:44:36,253
Speaker 3: the markets.

936
00:44:36,293 --> 00:44:39,573
Speaker 2: Turn up with you with yours signed car. I don't

937
00:44:39,573 --> 00:44:41,933
Speaker 2: really like people. I don't want to like engaging with

938
00:44:41,973 --> 00:44:44,093
Speaker 2: the public. It's not really my thing. But I'd love

939
00:44:44,133 --> 00:44:45,212
Speaker 2: you to vote for me for mere.

940
00:44:45,293 --> 00:44:48,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck to that person. Oh one hundred eighty

941
00:44:48,013 --> 00:44:49,772
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. We've got full boards.

942
00:44:49,773 --> 00:44:52,013
Speaker 3: If you can't get through, keep trying. It as twelve

943
00:44:52,053 --> 00:44:52,493
Speaker 3: past two.

944
00:44:52,853 --> 00:44:57,333
Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

945
00:44:57,493 --> 00:45:01,493
Speaker 1: afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk zed.

946
00:45:01,333 --> 00:45:05,533
Speaker 3: B, News Talk zed B. It is quarter past two.

947
00:45:05,613 --> 00:45:07,213
Speaker 3: We're talking about local body politics.

948
00:45:07,293 --> 00:45:09,172
Speaker 2: Shawan says, other than the n games, who actually knows

949
00:45:09,213 --> 00:45:11,773
Speaker 2: their local candidates? Well, that's the big question we're asking here.

950
00:45:11,813 --> 00:45:14,173
Speaker 2: You get a little a booklet and you look for

951
00:45:14,213 --> 00:45:16,693
Speaker 2: it and you read, you know, a paragraph on someone.

952
00:45:16,733 --> 00:45:19,893
Speaker 2: I'm reading a paragraph here on someone he's been on

953
00:45:19,933 --> 00:45:24,213
Speaker 2: shortened street good And you know, is that enough to

954
00:45:24,333 --> 00:45:26,373
Speaker 2: vote for someone? Their picture in a little bit, or

955
00:45:26,373 --> 00:45:28,613
Speaker 2: would you like to talk to them? Would you like

956
00:45:28,653 --> 00:45:29,172
Speaker 2: to see them?

957
00:45:29,373 --> 00:45:31,213
Speaker 1: I mean, can someone run a rally?

958
00:45:31,813 --> 00:45:32,093
Speaker 4: You know?

959
00:45:32,493 --> 00:45:34,893
Speaker 2: Is there any political candidate in the local body election

960
00:45:35,013 --> 00:45:38,613
Speaker 2: that could pull a thousand people to a rally where

961
00:45:38,653 --> 00:45:42,013
Speaker 2: they stand up and stump up and talk to people.

962
00:45:42,733 --> 00:45:44,373
Speaker 3: It would be nice if they could, but I think

963
00:45:44,373 --> 00:45:46,293
Speaker 3: for a lot of them thinking about that idea, it's

964
00:45:46,333 --> 00:45:48,172
Speaker 3: kind of like hosting a party and nobody turns up.

965
00:45:48,933 --> 00:45:50,933
Speaker 3: I mean, could there be anyone out there that would

966
00:45:50,933 --> 00:45:52,373
Speaker 3: get more than twenty people.

967
00:45:52,173 --> 00:45:54,893
Speaker 2: A massive political rally and there's one person there?

968
00:45:55,013 --> 00:45:58,013
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that would be awkward. Craig, how are you mate?

969
00:45:59,253 --> 00:46:02,973
Speaker 18: There's a few things. I've been to a couple of beatings.

970
00:46:03,133 --> 00:46:05,813
Speaker 18: How I was that one last night out of Karaka

971
00:46:07,253 --> 00:46:11,093
Speaker 18: and one the other week. And what surprises me is

972
00:46:11,933 --> 00:46:14,333
Speaker 18: you would think you go into a great power convention

973
00:46:15,853 --> 00:46:20,333
Speaker 18: that people can attend these public meetings. I would say

974
00:46:20,573 --> 00:46:23,853
Speaker 18: ninety nine percent of them would be sixty five plus,

975
00:46:24,373 --> 00:46:28,933
Speaker 18: which is really sad for our cities that the younger generation,

976
00:46:29,693 --> 00:46:33,173
Speaker 18: and when I say younger both in age up to

977
00:46:33,333 --> 00:46:38,053
Speaker 18: sixty five. They're just not present, which is which is

978
00:46:38,093 --> 00:46:43,173
Speaker 18: really bad. But we're very apathetic and I am everybody

979
00:46:43,253 --> 00:46:47,293
Speaker 18: is that it's not into or something attacks you or

980
00:46:48,053 --> 00:46:50,933
Speaker 18: threat is something that your passionate about. This threat is

981
00:46:50,973 --> 00:46:55,013
Speaker 18: that you actually get as bold. And that's what we've done,

982
00:46:55,853 --> 00:47:00,333
Speaker 18: you know, to save our speedway in Western Springs, and

983
00:47:00,413 --> 00:47:05,093
Speaker 18: we know this election is crucial, so we've done we've

984
00:47:05,133 --> 00:47:09,053
Speaker 18: done the canvas scene of all the candidates or candidate

985
00:47:09,333 --> 00:47:15,172
Speaker 18: and councils and we've spoke, we've basically interviewed them and

986
00:47:15,213 --> 00:47:18,973
Speaker 18: we've spent hours with them, and we've just started an

987
00:47:18,973 --> 00:47:25,293
Speaker 18: advertising campaign on your radio station to hopefully direct people

988
00:47:25,293 --> 00:47:28,573
Speaker 18: to our website where if they wanted to save our speedway,

989
00:47:28,933 --> 00:47:31,413
Speaker 18: they can go to our website see what council the

990
00:47:31,493 --> 00:47:37,093
Speaker 18: councilors that lost candidates manding at each ward and there

991
00:47:37,213 --> 00:47:38,693
Speaker 18: is the vote to save us speedway.

992
00:47:39,093 --> 00:47:40,693
Speaker 2: Craig, if you had a rally, do you think you

993
00:47:40,733 --> 00:47:43,053
Speaker 2: could get a decent crowd to turn up? If you

994
00:47:43,413 --> 00:47:46,373
Speaker 2: if you booked a hall, could you pack it out?

995
00:47:46,613 --> 00:47:47,133
Speaker 2: How many people?

996
00:47:47,133 --> 00:47:50,413
Speaker 18: Where would have book the hall? Absolutely, I believe, And

997
00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:51,573
Speaker 18: where would to book a hall?

998
00:47:52,133 --> 00:47:53,093
Speaker 6: And we were to have.

999
00:47:55,413 --> 00:47:58,573
Speaker 18: People candidates turn up. I believe we could get a

1000
00:47:58,613 --> 00:48:01,933
Speaker 18: thousand people easy. It's a big issue in autumn this year.

1001
00:48:02,293 --> 00:48:07,693
Speaker 18: Trouble is the current mayor wouldn't come, and any counselor

1002
00:48:08,333 --> 00:48:12,053
Speaker 18: own counselor that is voted against the speedway wouldn't come

1003
00:48:12,573 --> 00:48:14,973
Speaker 18: because they don't want to be accountable for their decisions.

1004
00:48:16,693 --> 00:48:19,653
Speaker 18: And that's where we're really lucky. And you know, I

1005
00:48:19,773 --> 00:48:23,933
Speaker 18: don't take counsels a corrupt that they can be unlawful.

1006
00:48:25,173 --> 00:48:29,133
Speaker 18: And the male candidate, all of the people that we're

1007
00:48:29,733 --> 00:48:35,613
Speaker 18: endorses and that are willing to find that viable future

1008
00:48:35,693 --> 00:48:39,453
Speaker 18: for speedway at Western spreads all of the candidates, some

1009
00:48:39,693 --> 00:48:44,733
Speaker 18: probably center sent to right leading people. They're the menal

1010
00:48:44,813 --> 00:48:50,253
Speaker 18: candidates are doors would be sent to center left. And

1011
00:48:50,653 --> 00:48:53,293
Speaker 18: I spoke to her in debt because most of our

1012
00:48:53,453 --> 00:48:57,253
Speaker 18: supporters don't only votes on that side of the spectrum.

1013
00:48:58,613 --> 00:49:04,172
Speaker 18: But we are one issue campaign and I've just sent

1014
00:49:04,253 --> 00:49:08,813
Speaker 18: to the male candidate, we're a dorsey that you're when

1015
00:49:08,853 --> 00:49:12,013
Speaker 18: you win, you're the captain of the team and you

1016
00:49:12,293 --> 00:49:17,293
Speaker 18: have to bring the team together. Step walks select for

1017
00:49:17,413 --> 00:49:23,293
Speaker 18: you to work with. That's something that currently and you know,

1018
00:49:23,373 --> 00:49:26,053
Speaker 18: it takes a very special person unite.

1019
00:49:28,493 --> 00:49:30,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, good luck with that, Craig, And I think

1020
00:49:30,373 --> 00:49:31,933
Speaker 3: you're right there are a few people who do care

1021
00:49:31,933 --> 00:49:32,813
Speaker 3: about that speedway.

1022
00:49:33,333 --> 00:49:34,692
Speaker 2: A thousand people is not a bad rally.

1023
00:49:34,893 --> 00:49:37,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon would be what do you

1024
00:49:37,733 --> 00:49:39,333
Speaker 3: need to see if you're going to turn up to

1025
00:49:39,413 --> 00:49:41,973
Speaker 3: one of these local body stand ups meet your candidate?

1026
00:49:42,013 --> 00:49:45,093
Speaker 3: What do you need at that particular meeting. I think

1027
00:49:45,173 --> 00:49:47,213
Speaker 3: sandwiches are a must. You've gotta have club sandwiches.

1028
00:49:47,613 --> 00:49:50,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, potentially mean you just want to have some kind

1029
00:49:50,933 --> 00:49:53,453
Speaker 2: of way to hear people of it. I guess it's

1030
00:49:53,453 --> 00:49:56,653
Speaker 2: a different era though, Tyler, because that used to be

1031
00:49:56,693 --> 00:49:58,293
Speaker 2: the only way. I mean, we're going back in time

1032
00:49:58,373 --> 00:50:01,493
Speaker 2: that we people had to go out and hear people speak, right, Yeah,

1033
00:50:01,773 --> 00:50:03,773
Speaker 2: that's the way it used to work. I mean now

1034
00:50:03,853 --> 00:50:05,853
Speaker 2: people just putting out social media posts, right.

1035
00:50:05,893 --> 00:50:08,573
Speaker 3: There's a good point. Yeah, thirty seconds on TikTok oh.

1036
00:50:08,453 --> 00:50:09,853
Speaker 2: One hundred and then you don't have to make the

1037
00:50:09,893 --> 00:50:10,812
Speaker 2: asparagus roles.

1038
00:50:11,213 --> 00:50:15,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, Aaron, how are you? I tell you very goods?

1039
00:50:16,093 --> 00:50:19,252
Speaker 3: And what's your thoughts? So you're you are standing again

1040
00:50:19,293 --> 00:50:21,693
Speaker 3: for counsel and you've been re elected unopposed Darren.

1041
00:50:22,733 --> 00:50:25,853
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's five people across the country the counselors

1042
00:50:25,893 --> 00:50:28,573
Speaker 4: that got that, and weirdly three of them were in

1043
00:50:28,653 --> 00:50:30,613
Speaker 4: christ Chips, so that was a bit of a surprise.

1044
00:50:30,733 --> 00:50:33,732
Speaker 4: But I don't know, I quite know what that means.

1045
00:50:33,813 --> 00:50:37,253
Speaker 4: Then wasn't super happy about it, but it's got its

1046
00:50:37,293 --> 00:50:39,413
Speaker 4: pros and cons. I quite like the scramp.

1047
00:50:39,533 --> 00:50:41,893
Speaker 1: Are you still running a massive campaign.

1048
00:50:43,733 --> 00:50:45,773
Speaker 4: Well trying to help others because I don't want the

1049
00:50:47,213 --> 00:50:49,253
Speaker 4: crist Yes is an amazing place at the moment, and

1050
00:50:49,333 --> 00:50:51,773
Speaker 4: it's going in a really direction and it could go

1051
00:50:52,053 --> 00:50:55,413
Speaker 4: a bit quicker in that direction, and so I'll obviously

1052
00:50:55,533 --> 00:50:58,133
Speaker 4: be back in film major to be to carry on

1053
00:50:58,213 --> 00:51:00,813
Speaker 4: as near but we need a few more counselors that

1054
00:51:00,933 --> 00:51:03,653
Speaker 4: think our way so we can get more done. So

1055
00:51:04,253 --> 00:51:06,413
Speaker 4: what I did is I've put together a website. I

1056
00:51:06,493 --> 00:51:09,373
Speaker 4: think someone might have texted in about it before and

1057
00:51:09,573 --> 00:51:13,253
Speaker 4: I think they use the word legend, stretch along stretch.

1058
00:51:13,333 --> 00:51:18,013
Speaker 4: But it was more about putting up so people. As

1059
00:51:18,013 --> 00:51:20,293
Speaker 4: an elected member, people asked all the time who bloody

1060
00:51:20,373 --> 00:51:24,172
Speaker 4: voted for that? And because you see them where the supermarket, pub,

1061
00:51:24,253 --> 00:51:28,573
Speaker 4: gig whatever, and people get really really upset about certain things.

1062
00:51:28,773 --> 00:51:30,573
Speaker 4: So what I did is put up a website how

1063
00:51:30,613 --> 00:51:33,493
Speaker 4: they voted, dot and z and that has a list

1064
00:51:33,573 --> 00:51:36,533
Speaker 4: of all the contentious stuff over the last three years

1065
00:51:36,573 --> 00:51:39,093
Speaker 4: that people have voted on and which way each councilor

1066
00:51:39,173 --> 00:51:41,573
Speaker 4: went and the number of messages I've had and from

1067
00:51:41,613 --> 00:51:44,493
Speaker 4: all over the country, people in other districts want that

1068
00:51:45,813 --> 00:51:47,173
Speaker 4: we are.

1069
00:51:47,173 --> 00:51:49,973
Speaker 2: A fantastic service. Now, someone that has campaigned in the past,

1070
00:51:50,053 --> 00:51:52,253
Speaker 2: what works in local body elections? Is it things like

1071
00:51:52,333 --> 00:51:54,933
Speaker 2: this online things? Or is it a turning up at

1072
00:51:54,973 --> 00:51:58,293
Speaker 2: events that people organize like the one end was talking

1073
00:51:58,333 --> 00:52:01,853
Speaker 2: about before on the line, or is it billboards hoardings?

1074
00:52:02,213 --> 00:52:05,453
Speaker 2: What does it actually gets people to vote for you

1075
00:52:05,573 --> 00:52:07,772
Speaker 2: an election win? Turnouts are often quite low.

1076
00:52:09,413 --> 00:52:11,693
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't want to give away all the secrets.

1077
00:52:11,853 --> 00:52:15,693
Speaker 4: But this so once upon a time, elections for a

1078
00:52:16,173 --> 00:52:19,453
Speaker 4: competition of ideas, and I wish that's where we were

1079
00:52:19,533 --> 00:52:22,413
Speaker 4: back now. I love that concept and I love the

1080
00:52:22,493 --> 00:52:25,413
Speaker 4: idea that I put forward, an idea of flying cars

1081
00:52:25,453 --> 00:52:27,373
Speaker 4: and you go, no, that's nonsense. I'm going to make

1082
00:52:28,013 --> 00:52:30,493
Speaker 4: the train. Yeah, we're going to have them in christ

1083
00:52:30,573 --> 00:52:32,413
Speaker 4: Chitch in the next three years. But they're a side

1084
00:52:32,453 --> 00:52:36,373
Speaker 4: that's a story for another day. But it's a true

1085
00:52:36,413 --> 00:52:38,773
Speaker 4: one and you'll love it when you see it. I mean,

1086
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Speaker 4: actually your eyes will water within. Then you guys will

1087
00:52:41,373 --> 00:52:43,293
Speaker 4: move and base yourselves in christ chits and put your

1088
00:52:43,333 --> 00:52:43,853
Speaker 4: show from here.

1089
00:52:43,933 --> 00:52:47,693
Speaker 1: But that invites an open mine down there and love it.

1090
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we It's so it used to be

1091
00:52:51,893 --> 00:52:55,893
Speaker 4: a competition of ideas. It turned into a name, into

1092
00:52:57,373 --> 00:53:00,213
Speaker 4: a popularity competition. Just oh yeah, that guy's off shortened

1093
00:53:00,253 --> 00:53:03,172
Speaker 4: street or whatever, ex all black, blah blah, I'll vote

1094
00:53:03,213 --> 00:53:06,253
Speaker 4: for them. And now it's it's I think it's stooped

1095
00:53:06,293 --> 00:53:09,573
Speaker 4: to almost the level of just being a name recognition competition.

1096
00:53:09,733 --> 00:53:12,732
Speaker 4: People go, Christy, can I spot any name? May even

1097
00:53:12,773 --> 00:53:13,413
Speaker 4: recognize on it?

1098
00:53:13,453 --> 00:53:13,613
Speaker 8: I know?

1099
00:53:14,053 --> 00:53:18,213
Speaker 2: And you know what, Aaron, That's That's when I wanted

1100
00:53:18,213 --> 00:53:21,173
Speaker 2: to talk about this today because I thought, gosh, I

1101
00:53:21,453 --> 00:53:24,733
Speaker 2: absolutely believe that democracy is really important, local body. And

1102
00:53:24,773 --> 00:53:26,773
Speaker 2: then I was looking through the bocklet and I was

1103
00:53:26,813 --> 00:53:29,053
Speaker 2: glazing over, and then I saw someone, a couple of

1104
00:53:29,093 --> 00:53:31,733
Speaker 2: people that I recognized, and I thought, boy, you know,

1105
00:53:32,333 --> 00:53:34,493
Speaker 2: I can't judge other people when I'm that That's the

1106
00:53:34,533 --> 00:53:36,893
Speaker 2: way I'm looking at the election, and I don't want

1107
00:53:36,893 --> 00:53:37,973
Speaker 2: to be like that. So I'm going to try and

1108
00:53:38,013 --> 00:53:39,813
Speaker 2: not be like that. But I can see how everyone

1109
00:53:40,253 --> 00:53:43,493
Speaker 2: slips into that, you know, because because one hundred, we've

1110
00:53:43,533 --> 00:53:45,733
Speaker 2: got tiny attention spans now, and so we.

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00:53:46,293 --> 00:53:48,893
Speaker 4: Yes, well, that's the idea of the website that I

1112
00:53:49,013 --> 00:53:51,973
Speaker 4: put up, is that is to work on those tiny

1113
00:53:52,013 --> 00:53:54,213
Speaker 4: attention spans. And of course all the Greenies getting upset

1114
00:53:54,293 --> 00:53:56,853
Speaker 4: because the things that upset people are speed hunts and

1115
00:53:56,933 --> 00:53:59,093
Speaker 4: bike lanes and some they're all the usual stuff that

1116
00:53:59,133 --> 00:54:02,533
Speaker 4: you here on your show all the time, but people

1117
00:54:02,653 --> 00:54:05,733
Speaker 4: don't know who voted for that and why they voted that.

1118
00:54:05,893 --> 00:54:09,172
Speaker 4: So we've put that up. But someone's running this year.

1119
00:54:09,173 --> 00:54:11,413
Speaker 4: If you're getting no attention and you're going nowhere, just

1120
00:54:11,653 --> 00:54:14,293
Speaker 4: step put up one issue, just make it really clear.

1121
00:54:14,373 --> 00:54:16,533
Speaker 4: So then when you look on it, you go, oh, yeah, Matt,

1122
00:54:16,693 --> 00:54:19,453
Speaker 4: he's the one that will have zero speed humps in

1123
00:54:19,573 --> 00:54:21,893
Speaker 4: his ward. I'll vote for that guy. Or he's the

1124
00:54:21,933 --> 00:54:24,453
Speaker 4: guy that's going to put him cycleways on every corner,

1125
00:54:24,733 --> 00:54:28,413
Speaker 4: great vote, whatever your thing is. Just put one really

1126
00:54:28,453 --> 00:54:30,693
Speaker 4: big issue up that you know gets people upset, and

1127
00:54:30,773 --> 00:54:32,133
Speaker 4: then what's what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that you've tapped into a rich vein there,

1129
00:54:35,253 --> 00:54:37,333
Speaker 3: because I've got to say, Aaron looking online all I

1130
00:54:37,453 --> 00:54:40,573
Speaker 3: over hear in Christ just anger over speed bumps. It's

1131
00:54:40,613 --> 00:54:42,133
Speaker 3: god speed bump crazy down there.

1132
00:54:43,773 --> 00:54:47,613
Speaker 4: It has and everyone that was elected last into this

1133
00:54:47,813 --> 00:54:50,333
Speaker 4: team will currently in. None of them went in on

1134
00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:53,173
Speaker 4: a mandate. I'm going to put speed bumps everywhere and

1135
00:54:53,613 --> 00:54:56,653
Speaker 4: so the public are furious. So that will be what

1136
00:54:56,853 --> 00:54:57,893
Speaker 4: flips the council.

1137
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Speaker 2: Do you think Do you think though, for democracy going forward,

1138
00:55:02,613 --> 00:55:07,212
Speaker 2: if we're electing a bunch of one issue candidates, that's

1139
00:55:07,293 --> 00:55:08,733
Speaker 2: going to be a good thing because when you get

1140
00:55:08,733 --> 00:55:09,933
Speaker 2: in there, they've got to sit on a lot of

1141
00:55:10,933 --> 00:55:14,493
Speaker 2: different issues that they potentially don't care about. So maybe

1142
00:55:14,533 --> 00:55:16,013
Speaker 2: that's a good way to get elected. But is that

1143
00:55:16,133 --> 00:55:19,652
Speaker 2: a good way? Is that a good counselor someone that's

1144
00:55:19,693 --> 00:55:20,853
Speaker 2: going in on one issue.

1145
00:55:22,293 --> 00:55:26,813
Speaker 4: If it's a big issue, it's helpful. Otherwise the alternate

1146
00:55:26,893 --> 00:55:28,732
Speaker 4: to that as you get a counselor in there that's

1147
00:55:28,773 --> 00:55:32,573
Speaker 4: standing on no issues, So just just someone in there

1148
00:55:32,973 --> 00:55:35,493
Speaker 4: at least I like the speedway guy.

1149
00:55:36,013 --> 00:55:37,733
Speaker 2: There's some people that are standing on the issue of

1150
00:55:37,853 --> 00:55:39,893
Speaker 2: wanting clear there's some people that are standing on the

1151
00:55:39,933 --> 00:55:41,373
Speaker 2: issue that they want to be paid to be in

1152
00:55:41,413 --> 00:55:43,533
Speaker 2: the councilor very true, and I want to stay there

1153
00:55:43,573 --> 00:55:43,973
Speaker 2: once they're in.

1154
00:55:45,453 --> 00:55:48,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is. Yeah, Aaron, thank you very much.

1155
00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:48,212
Speaker 4: Mate.

1156
00:55:48,253 --> 00:55:50,413
Speaker 3: I'd say good luck, but you're already in, but good

1157
00:55:50,493 --> 00:55:52,692
Speaker 3: luck to your team as well. It is twenty six

1158
00:55:52,813 --> 00:55:55,613
Speaker 3: past two, Beck very shortly, but can you hear from you?

1159
00:55:55,693 --> 00:55:57,333
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighties and number to.

1160
00:55:57,333 --> 00:56:04,893
Speaker 1: Call Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred

1161
00:56:04,893 --> 00:56:07,652
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. On news Talk ZB twenty nine.

1162
00:56:07,573 --> 00:56:09,813
Speaker 3: Past two, we've had thousands of texts come through on

1163
00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:10,573
Speaker 3: local body.

1164
00:56:10,413 --> 00:56:15,533
Speaker 2: Politics, Linda says I will vote on anti Auckland transport, micromanagement,

1165
00:56:16,013 --> 00:56:20,373
Speaker 2: non climate alarmists. No one mentions that in their blurb though, Linda,

1166
00:56:21,213 --> 00:56:23,933
Speaker 2: to be honest, I really didn't follow local politics until

1167
00:56:23,933 --> 00:56:27,413
Speaker 2: I found one particular candidate that was present. Charlie Kirk

1168
00:56:27,533 --> 00:56:29,493
Speaker 2: on social media as a great man. I believe in

1169
00:56:29,573 --> 00:56:32,413
Speaker 2: free speech, but hate speechesn't free speech. New Zealand doesn't

1170
00:56:32,493 --> 00:56:36,093
Speaker 2: need people in power who follow or promote blatant racism

1171
00:56:36,213 --> 00:56:40,172
Speaker 2: and misogyny. Yeah, and interesting, I think that person needs

1172
00:56:40,213 --> 00:56:42,013
Speaker 2: to probably read around a little bit more before they

1173
00:56:42,053 --> 00:56:45,333
Speaker 2: make their decisions. Yeah, vote out every councilor who allows

1174
00:56:45,413 --> 00:56:48,173
Speaker 2: rates to rise way above any acceptable premium in this

1175
00:56:48,373 --> 00:56:51,652
Speaker 2: cost of living situation, where in over fifteen percent has

1176
00:56:51,893 --> 00:56:54,733
Speaker 2: really affected the more vulnerable elderly people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Nice, and this one is a great text. Gerde Fowlers.

1179
00:56:59,013 --> 00:57:01,293
Speaker 3: I never voted in the last local elections and I

1180
00:57:01,373 --> 00:57:03,773
Speaker 3: wasn't going to bother this time. But after listening to

1181
00:57:04,093 --> 00:57:06,333
Speaker 3: you guys this afternoon, I have now voted and put

1182
00:57:06,373 --> 00:57:10,133
Speaker 3: the papers in the envelope. I'll mail it tomorrow. Cheers boys,

1183
00:57:10,373 --> 00:57:11,173
Speaker 3: Cheers New Zealand.

1184
00:57:11,333 --> 00:57:13,693
Speaker 2: So an hour and a half of talking about local

1185
00:57:14,133 --> 00:57:17,613
Speaker 2: body elections and their importance and we have made a difference.

1186
00:57:17,733 --> 00:57:18,653
Speaker 3: We got one across a lot.

1187
00:57:18,933 --> 00:57:19,333
Speaker 2: One vote.

1188
00:57:19,413 --> 00:57:20,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all it needs.

1189
00:57:20,693 --> 00:57:23,253
Speaker 2: That's that's that means I don't have to vote now.

1190
00:57:23,733 --> 00:57:26,213
Speaker 3: No, just kidding, just kidding, you'll do the right thing.

1191
00:57:26,413 --> 00:57:26,973
Speaker 1: I'm going to vote.

1192
00:57:27,013 --> 00:57:28,613
Speaker 2: I think it's very important. You've got your week book

1193
00:57:28,813 --> 00:57:31,213
Speaker 2: there and I'm going to be a better person and

1194
00:57:31,253 --> 00:57:34,613
Speaker 2: I'm going to do my research. Yeah, okay, we're just

1195
00:57:34,613 --> 00:57:36,333
Speaker 2: going to vote for the most famous person on the list.

1196
00:57:36,453 --> 00:57:38,973
Speaker 3: All right, I promise, all right, all right, there has

1197
00:57:39,053 --> 00:57:41,413
Speaker 3: been a great check coming up after the headlines, we

1198
00:57:41,453 --> 00:57:43,253
Speaker 3: won't have a chat about we go vy we Go

1199
00:57:43,413 --> 00:57:44,733
Speaker 3: V if you haven't heard of it is a new

1200
00:57:44,773 --> 00:57:48,133
Speaker 3: weight loss in jettion promising quick results. It is freaking

1201
00:57:48,213 --> 00:57:49,813
Speaker 3: everywhere by the sounds of it. So if you're on

1202
00:57:49,893 --> 00:57:52,213
Speaker 3: the old we gov or sex ind Or is another one,

1203
00:57:52,533 --> 00:57:53,973
Speaker 3: love to hear from you. On O eight hundred and

1204
00:57:54,013 --> 00:57:56,453
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty and coming up just after the headlines,

1205
00:57:56,453 --> 00:57:58,333
Speaker 3: we're going to catch up with Dr Brian Biddy. He

1206
00:57:58,493 --> 00:58:01,693
Speaker 3: is a very well known GP and pottydoer and also

1207
00:58:01,893 --> 00:58:03,973
Speaker 3: a chair of General Practice New Zealand. So this is

1208
00:58:04,013 --> 00:58:06,493
Speaker 3: going to be good. It is twenty nine to three.

1209
00:58:09,133 --> 00:58:12,013
Speaker 9: US talks at the headline West Blue Bubble taxis it's

1210
00:58:12,053 --> 00:58:15,293
Speaker 9: no trouble with a blue bubble. The government's urgently banning

1211
00:58:15,373 --> 00:58:18,853
Speaker 9: Kiweis from adopting children while overseas and bringing them back

1212
00:58:18,853 --> 00:58:21,813
Speaker 9: to New Zealand. The ban will last until twenty twenty

1213
00:58:21,933 --> 00:58:24,373
Speaker 9: seven at the latest as the government works on a

1214
00:58:24,413 --> 00:58:28,533
Speaker 9: new adoption framework to prevent harm to children. Food price

1215
00:58:28,573 --> 00:58:31,933
Speaker 9: inflation are starting to stabilize. Latest figures from Stats and

1216
00:58:32,053 --> 00:58:34,813
Speaker 9: Z show the food price inflation is a five percent,

1217
00:58:35,253 --> 00:58:38,533
Speaker 9: unchanged on a month ago. Falling interest rates are yet

1218
00:58:38,573 --> 00:58:41,213
Speaker 9: to flow through to the housing market. New data from

1219
00:58:41,253 --> 00:58:45,653
Speaker 9: the Real Estate Institute shows markets remain sluggish. Hawk's Bay

1220
00:58:45,773 --> 00:58:48,653
Speaker 9: peach growers may be forced to pivot as their contracts

1221
00:58:48,733 --> 00:58:51,773
Speaker 9: with WAI suddenly come to an end. The Hasting Space

1222
00:58:51,853 --> 00:58:54,293
Speaker 9: Company has told some of its suppliers their fruit is

1223
00:58:54,453 --> 00:58:58,053
Speaker 9: no longer needed. Those wanting to go to Auckland's Laneway

1224
00:58:58,173 --> 00:59:00,893
Speaker 9: Festival early next year may need a day off work.

1225
00:59:01,333 --> 00:59:03,933
Speaker 9: The popular music festival has been announced for the fifth

1226
00:59:03,973 --> 00:59:06,733
Speaker 9: of February, a day before White Tony Day when it

1227
00:59:06,853 --> 00:59:09,853
Speaker 9: ran this year, meaning to holders who work a Thursday

1228
00:59:10,053 --> 00:59:13,293
Speaker 9: might need time out of the office. Plus, Banking Watchdog

1229
00:59:13,373 --> 00:59:16,413
Speaker 9: releases a ruling after A and Z staff helped customers

1230
00:59:16,413 --> 00:59:19,813
Speaker 9: send two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to scanners. Read

1231
00:59:19,893 --> 00:59:23,093
Speaker 9: more at enzaid Herald Premium. Now back to Mats and Tyler.

1232
00:59:23,253 --> 00:59:25,253
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy. So, if you've noticed the

1233
00:59:25,293 --> 00:59:27,893
Speaker 3: buzz around we go VI, the new weight loss injection

1234
00:59:28,013 --> 00:59:31,533
Speaker 3: promising quick results, You're not alone. Many many people undertaking

1235
00:59:31,613 --> 00:59:36,013
Speaker 3: that treatment, including former Ukraine correspondent Lizette Raema. She wrote

1236
00:59:36,013 --> 00:59:38,893
Speaker 3: a story about it. So this drug mimics a hormone

1237
00:59:38,893 --> 00:59:40,493
Speaker 3: in your gut which makes you feel fall and It

1238
00:59:40,573 --> 00:59:44,413
Speaker 3: also interacts with your reward pathways, so you're less likely

1239
00:59:44,693 --> 00:59:46,453
Speaker 3: to reach of things like chocolate and ice cream.

1240
00:59:46,613 --> 00:59:49,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we've seen and everywhere the Hollywood stars are

1241
00:59:49,693 --> 00:59:53,693
Speaker 2: sucking it back like their tic TACs. They love it,

1242
00:59:53,733 --> 00:59:55,693
Speaker 2: Ashle Hannah, it's an injection I keep getting for used

1243
00:59:55,733 --> 00:59:58,933
Speaker 2: in that one, So strike that. But it's been incredibly

1244
00:59:59,053 --> 01:00:01,973
Speaker 2: popular and it's been around for a while now, so

1245
01:00:02,133 --> 01:00:04,613
Speaker 2: lots of you are either on it, I imagine, or

1246
01:00:04,853 --> 01:00:07,493
Speaker 2: thinking seriously about it. So we want to talk about

1247
01:00:07,533 --> 01:00:10,893
Speaker 2: does it work, how hard is it to get? And look,

1248
01:00:11,173 --> 01:00:14,493
Speaker 2: if it is the panacea that some people claim it is,

1249
01:00:14,533 --> 01:00:17,133
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you why wouldn't you just fire some of

1250
01:00:17,213 --> 01:00:19,493
Speaker 2: that into your veins and lose the weight because we

1251
01:00:19,533 --> 01:00:21,373
Speaker 2: all know how bad obesity is for people.

1252
01:00:21,573 --> 01:00:24,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh eight hundred not great for the old heart. No,

1253
01:00:25,133 --> 01:00:26,813
Speaker 3: certainly not great for the heart. I one hundred and

1254
01:00:26,813 --> 01:00:29,053
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Andrew is

1255
01:00:29,133 --> 01:00:31,933
Speaker 3: standing by. But right now we're joined by doctor Brian Betty.

1256
01:00:32,013 --> 01:00:34,773
Speaker 3: He is chair of General Practice in z and he's

1257
01:00:34,773 --> 01:00:38,133
Speaker 3: a specialist GP based in Potty or doctor Betty. Very

1258
01:00:38,173 --> 01:00:40,853
Speaker 3: good afternoon to you, Oh.

1259
01:00:40,813 --> 01:00:41,373
Speaker 6: Good afternoon.

1260
01:00:41,493 --> 01:00:42,093
Speaker 15: Nice to be here.

1261
01:00:42,653 --> 01:00:44,893
Speaker 2: So how popular are these weight loss drugs in New

1262
01:00:44,973 --> 01:00:47,053
Speaker 2: Zealand and who can get them and how hard is

1263
01:00:47,053 --> 01:00:47,813
Speaker 2: it to access them?

1264
01:00:49,773 --> 01:00:54,293
Speaker 15: Oh, look, they got to prove a few months ago,

1265
01:00:54,933 --> 01:00:57,533
Speaker 15: so they're relatively new to New Zealand, though they've been

1266
01:00:57,613 --> 01:01:01,573
Speaker 15: around the world for a period of time. There's been

1267
01:01:01,653 --> 01:01:03,413
Speaker 15: quite a large uptake in them. I've got to say,

1268
01:01:03,973 --> 01:01:06,453
Speaker 15: I think there's over ten thousand patients who are probably

1269
01:01:06,573 --> 01:01:09,453
Speaker 15: taking it at this point with a New Zealand what

1270
01:01:09,613 --> 01:01:13,053
Speaker 15: problems are not subsidized by the government, So the injection,

1271
01:01:13,253 --> 01:01:17,053
Speaker 15: which is a weekly injection, is expensive. It's about generally

1272
01:01:17,093 --> 01:01:20,133
Speaker 15: about five hundred to six hundred dollars per month, so

1273
01:01:20,253 --> 01:01:23,253
Speaker 15: there's no subsidy on them, so it is an expensive medication.

1274
01:01:24,253 --> 01:01:29,853
Speaker 15: But yeah, big uptake in this particular medication since it arrived.

1275
01:01:30,293 --> 01:01:32,013
Speaker 2: So I didn't actually know that. I've been hearing so

1276
01:01:32,133 --> 01:01:33,653
Speaker 2: much about it. I thought it had been available for

1277
01:01:33,693 --> 01:01:35,293
Speaker 2: a bit longer than that. So you have to go

1278
01:01:35,373 --> 01:01:37,893
Speaker 2: to the doctor. Do you have to prove anything to

1279
01:01:38,013 --> 01:01:39,133
Speaker 2: get it or just ask for it?

1280
01:01:40,853 --> 01:01:43,013
Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean, look there's a couple of issues

1281
01:01:43,053 --> 01:01:43,173
Speaker 3: with it.

1282
01:01:43,253 --> 01:01:44,733
Speaker 15: I mean, you know, you need to have a talk

1283
01:01:44,813 --> 01:01:46,613
Speaker 15: to your GP and to see whether it's the right

1284
01:01:46,693 --> 01:01:50,813
Speaker 15: medication for you. It's not a panacea for everyone with obesity.

1285
01:01:51,253 --> 01:01:53,293
Speaker 15: We do you know, there are some side effects with it,

1286
01:01:53,453 --> 01:01:55,493
Speaker 15: so you do need to have a proper assessment to

1287
01:01:55,573 --> 01:01:57,173
Speaker 15: work out whether it's the right medication.

1288
01:01:58,493 --> 01:01:58,693
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1289
01:01:58,773 --> 01:02:01,213
Speaker 15: Then it's available on script, so you do have to

1290
01:02:01,253 --> 01:02:02,933
Speaker 15: have a script for it to pick it up from

1291
01:02:03,013 --> 01:02:03,493
Speaker 15: the chemist.

1292
01:02:03,973 --> 01:02:05,333
Speaker 3: And there's a couple of things about it.

1293
01:02:05,453 --> 01:02:07,693
Speaker 15: You have to start at a lower dose for a month,

1294
01:02:08,053 --> 01:02:10,013
Speaker 15: than you work the dose up over a month and

1295
01:02:10,093 --> 01:02:12,293
Speaker 15: another month till you get to the maximum dose, so

1296
01:02:12,373 --> 01:02:14,253
Speaker 15: it takes about four or five months to get to

1297
01:02:14,293 --> 01:02:17,973
Speaker 15: the maximum dose. To see the weight loss, it's estimated

1298
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Speaker 15: that many patients will lose about probably about fifteen percent

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01:02:21,933 --> 01:02:24,853
Speaker 15: of their weight on it, So it is considered effective,

1300
01:02:26,093 --> 01:02:28,813
Speaker 15: but it does have side effects and that's one of

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01:02:28,853 --> 01:02:30,293
Speaker 15: the things that we need to be aware of.

1302
01:02:31,373 --> 01:02:33,653
Speaker 2: Now, how much you know, so I could go in

1303
01:02:33,733 --> 01:02:37,093
Speaker 2: there maybe on five kg overweight. Is that if I

1304
01:02:37,173 --> 01:02:40,573
Speaker 2: went into a doctor and something that I could fix

1305
01:02:40,653 --> 01:02:44,013
Speaker 2: with just a reasonable, reasonably slight change in my diet

1306
01:02:44,133 --> 01:02:47,653
Speaker 2: and exercise, would the doctor sign that off or does

1307
01:02:47,693 --> 01:02:49,293
Speaker 2: it have to be an actual problem?

1308
01:02:50,853 --> 01:02:51,053
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:02:51,133 --> 01:02:53,693
Speaker 15: Look, look I think five kilos overweight. You're looking at

1310
01:02:53,773 --> 01:02:57,053
Speaker 15: diet and exercise in that situation. I don't think medication

1311
01:02:57,293 --> 01:03:00,413
Speaker 15: or a weekly injection with potential side effects is the

1312
01:03:00,453 --> 01:03:03,453
Speaker 15: way to go. It's generally the degree to which you

1313
01:03:03,573 --> 01:03:06,053
Speaker 15: do have a weight problem, so we go on something

1314
01:03:06,093 --> 01:03:09,813
Speaker 15: called a BMI, which is your height to weight ratio. Generally,

1315
01:03:10,173 --> 01:03:13,373
Speaker 15: you know, over thirty to about thirty five you can

1316
01:03:13,453 --> 01:03:16,773
Speaker 15: start to consider medication. Over thirty five, medication it does

1317
01:03:16,853 --> 01:03:19,733
Speaker 15: have an absolute role to play, and over forty it does.

1318
01:03:20,253 --> 01:03:22,493
Speaker 15: We know we have bariatric surgery as an option for

1319
01:03:22,573 --> 01:03:24,413
Speaker 15: if you do have a real weight problem and you

1320
01:03:24,533 --> 01:03:28,053
Speaker 15: bearmies up around that forty mark, but certainly that thirty

1321
01:03:28,213 --> 01:03:31,453
Speaker 15: thirty five as it goes up, there is a role

1322
01:03:31,613 --> 01:03:34,173
Speaker 15: for it to play. But if you're just over the

1323
01:03:34,253 --> 01:03:36,733
Speaker 15: normal weight, it's certainly something I wouldn't recommend.

1324
01:03:37,173 --> 01:03:40,773
Speaker 3: Would it be a better option than bariatric surgery for

1325
01:03:40,893 --> 01:03:43,333
Speaker 3: those people who are sort of you know and just

1326
01:03:43,493 --> 01:03:46,653
Speaker 3: in the obese camp doctor that you know? By all accounts,

1327
01:03:46,693 --> 01:03:50,893
Speaker 3: it sounds like bariatric surgery offer obviously carries concerns and

1328
01:03:50,973 --> 01:03:53,293
Speaker 3: dangers and risks. Would it be less risky than that?

1329
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Speaker 15: Well, look, look I mean, yeah, it's all swings and roundabouts,

1330
01:03:57,773 --> 01:04:01,013
Speaker 15: isn't it. So certainly bariatric surgery does is surgery that

1331
01:04:01,173 --> 01:04:03,733
Speaker 15: has inherent risks in terms of what happens, and it

1332
01:04:03,813 --> 01:04:07,613
Speaker 15: can have complications. So yeah, if barrack surgery is not

1333
01:04:07,693 --> 01:04:11,613
Speaker 15: an option, weight you know, weight management with diet and

1334
01:04:11,693 --> 01:04:14,973
Speaker 15: exercise because that always underpins what actually goes on. So

1335
01:04:15,693 --> 01:04:19,493
Speaker 15: diet and exercise is incredibly important. Yeah, look, it has

1336
01:04:19,533 --> 01:04:21,813
Speaker 15: a role to play, there's no doubt about it. But

1337
01:04:21,933 --> 01:04:23,933
Speaker 15: I suppose one of the things to be aware of

1338
01:04:24,453 --> 01:04:26,893
Speaker 15: that if you do lose the weight maybe over one

1339
01:04:26,973 --> 01:04:29,933
Speaker 15: to two years that you're on the medication. What all

1340
01:04:30,013 --> 01:04:32,733
Speaker 15: the studies show that if you come off the medication,

1341
01:04:33,733 --> 01:04:36,613
Speaker 15: then the majority of people ninety percent of people over

1342
01:04:36,653 --> 01:04:39,133
Speaker 15: two years will put the weight back on. So the

1343
01:04:39,253 --> 01:04:44,013
Speaker 15: body is very very good at reprogramming. It's reprogramming itself.

1344
01:04:43,973 --> 01:04:45,013
Speaker 1: And putting the weight back on.

1345
01:04:45,253 --> 01:04:48,453
Speaker 15: So there is a line of thought now that is saying, look,

1346
01:04:48,533 --> 01:04:51,973
Speaker 15: these medications, they can be effective, they do have a

1347
01:04:52,093 --> 01:04:55,853
Speaker 15: role to play, but in fact they may be lifelong treatment,

1348
01:04:55,973 --> 01:04:59,973
Speaker 15: much like we talk about with blood pressure medication and

1349
01:05:00,053 --> 01:05:03,813
Speaker 15: cholesterol medication are lifetime treatments. It maybe we're in the

1350
01:05:04,253 --> 01:05:08,853
Speaker 15: space where these types of medication actually are required for life,

1351
01:05:09,053 --> 01:05:12,053
Speaker 15: and there's certainly a body of opinion that is starting

1352
01:05:12,093 --> 01:05:12,573
Speaker 15: to think that.

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01:05:13,013 --> 01:05:15,133
Speaker 2: Well, they come down in price, because right now, if

1354
01:05:15,173 --> 01:05:18,053
Speaker 2: it was a lifeline treatment, you're looking at what roughly

1355
01:05:18,453 --> 01:05:21,253
Speaker 2: you know, over ten, well five hundred dollars a month,

1356
01:05:21,373 --> 01:05:24,373
Speaker 2: you know, five hundred times twelve, you're looking at six

1357
01:05:24,413 --> 01:05:27,293
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year, aren't you. Yeah, So it's a

1358
01:05:27,333 --> 01:05:30,373
Speaker 2: lot to spend over a lifetime. So so it is

1359
01:05:30,373 --> 01:05:31,413
Speaker 2: a big investment, isn't it.

1360
01:05:31,573 --> 01:05:33,213
Speaker 15: So will they come down in price?

1361
01:05:33,333 --> 01:05:34,173
Speaker 4: You're quite like you.

1362
01:05:34,293 --> 01:05:37,653
Speaker 15: Over time, that will happen. They'll become more available. Maybe

1363
01:05:37,653 --> 01:05:40,693
Speaker 15: at some point they'll be subsidized by the government for

1364
01:05:40,813 --> 01:05:44,573
Speaker 15: certain patients, maybe with certain conditions that really do need

1365
01:05:44,653 --> 01:05:47,533
Speaker 15: treatment with weight loss medication. So yeah, that's possibly going

1366
01:05:47,573 --> 01:05:48,453
Speaker 15: to happen over time.

1367
01:05:49,053 --> 01:05:49,893
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right.

1368
01:05:50,013 --> 01:05:52,013
Speaker 15: I mean that you're looking at five to six thousand

1369
01:05:52,053 --> 01:05:56,293
Speaker 15: dollars per year. So it is a big commitment, and

1370
01:05:56,453 --> 01:05:59,253
Speaker 15: it is something that you know you need to think

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01:05:59,293 --> 01:06:01,453
Speaker 15: about and you do need to discuss with your doctor

1372
01:06:01,493 --> 01:06:03,573
Speaker 15: about whether it's the right choice for you.

1373
01:06:03,813 --> 01:06:04,253
Speaker 4: To do that.

1374
01:06:04,733 --> 01:06:06,373
Speaker 2: Just to circle back a little bit you were saying

1375
01:06:06,413 --> 01:06:09,293
Speaker 2: that there were side effects and downsides, what exactly are those?

1376
01:06:10,773 --> 01:06:14,933
Speaker 15: Yeah, So, look, the commonest side effect is actually gastrointestinal,

1377
01:06:15,053 --> 01:06:17,573
Speaker 15: so that is a stomach so things like nausea, which

1378
01:06:17,653 --> 01:06:18,893
Speaker 15: is actually very very common.

1379
01:06:19,413 --> 01:06:20,253
Speaker 1: It can cause.

1380
01:06:20,133 --> 01:06:23,653
Speaker 15: Diarrhea occasionally constipation if you don't drink enough water, and

1381
01:06:23,733 --> 01:06:26,213
Speaker 15: abdominal pain and bloating are sort of the things that

1382
01:06:26,293 --> 01:06:29,973
Speaker 15: can be seen. Often that's modified by advising that you

1383
01:06:30,173 --> 01:06:33,573
Speaker 15: have low fat diet and don't eat large meals.

1384
01:06:34,253 --> 01:06:35,013
Speaker 3: There are more.

1385
01:06:36,653 --> 01:06:39,613
Speaker 15: Less common but very important ones. So gall bladder issues

1386
01:06:39,693 --> 01:06:42,053
Speaker 15: or gallstones can actually be a problem, and that's due

1387
01:06:42,053 --> 01:06:44,493
Speaker 15: to rapid weight loss. So if you lose weight quickly,

1388
01:06:45,133 --> 01:06:47,653
Speaker 15: we know that you can develop gallstones very quickly and

1389
01:06:47,773 --> 01:06:52,773
Speaker 15: get a gall bladder problem. Pancreatitis is a rare complication

1390
01:06:52,893 --> 01:06:57,733
Speaker 15: which can occur sometimes. And you know there's some other

1391
01:06:58,053 --> 01:07:00,373
Speaker 15: other really really rare ones, but those are probably the

1392
01:07:01,613 --> 01:07:06,933
Speaker 15: sea So certainly that that abdominal pain, bloating, diarrhea, nausea

1393
01:07:07,093 --> 01:07:09,533
Speaker 15: can be quite common. Then the gall bladder and plancory

1394
01:07:09,613 --> 01:07:11,093
Speaker 15: titus the two of the other ones that we start

1395
01:07:11,133 --> 01:07:12,173
Speaker 15: to worry about a.

1396
01:07:12,213 --> 01:07:13,933
Speaker 2: Lot of time when I hear about diets. People say,

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01:07:13,933 --> 01:07:15,453
Speaker 2: I just want to shock to the system. I want

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01:07:15,493 --> 01:07:18,213
Speaker 2: to lose the fifteen twenty cage he or whatever. I'm

1399
01:07:18,253 --> 01:07:19,733
Speaker 2: just making up that number that I need to lose,

1400
01:07:20,013 --> 01:07:22,093
Speaker 2: and then I need to make the lifestyle changes to

1401
01:07:22,173 --> 01:07:25,653
Speaker 2: stay there. Is that a realistic thing? How many people actually.

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01:07:25,373 --> 01:07:25,813
Speaker 19: Pull that on?

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01:07:27,173 --> 01:07:30,373
Speaker 15: Yeah? Well, again, all the studies show that within two

1404
01:07:30,533 --> 01:07:33,453
Speaker 15: years I've been on a weight loss treatment, often if

1405
01:07:33,453 --> 01:07:35,893
Speaker 15: you come off it within two years, the weight goes

1406
01:07:35,973 --> 01:07:36,933
Speaker 15: back on and more.

1407
01:07:37,013 --> 01:07:38,613
Speaker 2: So there is a lot of you often hear that

1408
01:07:38,813 --> 01:07:41,093
Speaker 2: the weight and more goes on, and then some people

1409
01:07:41,133 --> 01:07:44,613
Speaker 2: are talking about your reward pathways being changed because whatever

1410
01:07:45,173 --> 01:07:48,373
Speaker 2: discipline you had is sort of turned off for the

1411
01:07:48,413 --> 01:07:50,053
Speaker 2: time that you're on it, So when you come off,

1412
01:07:50,093 --> 01:07:52,053
Speaker 2: you don't even have whatever discipline you did have, If

1413
01:07:52,093 --> 01:07:53,453
Speaker 2: discipline is the right word I'm looking for.

1414
01:07:55,773 --> 01:07:59,853
Speaker 15: Yeah, so it's in the body. Tabler's is really common

1415
01:08:00,933 --> 01:08:04,253
Speaker 15: thought that the body starts to reset its metabolism at

1416
01:08:04,333 --> 01:08:07,733
Speaker 15: a lower rate if you lose weight like that, and

1417
01:08:07,853 --> 01:08:12,093
Speaker 15: as you put the weight and take the medication away,

1418
01:08:12,773 --> 01:08:15,413
Speaker 15: start to eat more calories and you'll go back to

1419
01:08:15,453 --> 01:08:18,693
Speaker 15: your normal diet. Your metabolisms set slightly lie and you

1420
01:08:18,813 --> 01:08:22,253
Speaker 15: tend to put on the weight quite rapidly, So there's

1421
01:08:22,253 --> 01:08:24,652
Speaker 15: a whole lot of interaction stuff that's going on that's

1422
01:08:24,812 --> 01:08:28,213
Speaker 15: only just been starting to be understood. It's been really

1423
01:08:28,253 --> 01:08:31,213
Speaker 15: really poorly understood. So the body is very very good

1424
01:08:31,253 --> 01:08:34,253
Speaker 15: at allowing the weight to come back on often, so

1425
01:08:34,452 --> 01:08:37,933
Speaker 15: regardless of diet and exercise. Yea, yeah, yeah, so it

1426
01:08:38,053 --> 01:08:41,213
Speaker 15: tends to predetermine where it sits and that can be

1427
01:08:41,253 --> 01:08:43,133
Speaker 15: a problem. The other the other thing that people need

1428
01:08:43,173 --> 01:08:45,572
Speaker 15: to be aware of is rapid weight loss is not

1429
01:08:45,652 --> 01:08:48,452
Speaker 15: a great thing, and rapid weight loss and putting on

1430
01:08:48,532 --> 01:08:54,652
Speaker 15: weight than rapid weight loss again and bouncing around weight loss.

1431
01:08:55,973 --> 01:08:58,572
Speaker 2: Stained can can you say that last couple of sentences

1432
01:08:58,612 --> 01:09:01,852
Speaker 2: because you cut out for it for just briefly there.

1433
01:09:04,093 --> 01:09:07,492
Speaker 15: I'd saying rapid weight loss is yeah, not a great

1434
01:09:08,013 --> 01:09:10,173
Speaker 15: great thing to have happened. So if you will lose

1435
01:09:10,253 --> 01:09:13,732
Speaker 15: weight quickly and put it on quickly then lose weight again,

1436
01:09:14,213 --> 01:09:16,093
Speaker 15: that's not a very very good thing for the body

1437
01:09:16,213 --> 01:09:16,532
Speaker 15: at all.

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01:09:16,772 --> 01:09:19,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, doctor, really great to get your thoughts on this

1439
01:09:19,572 --> 01:09:21,732
Speaker 3: and really appreciate your time this afternoon.

1440
01:09:23,612 --> 01:09:25,412
Speaker 1: Great, no lovely to be here, thank you.

1441
01:09:25,973 --> 01:09:29,052
Speaker 3: That is doctor Brian Betty's chair of General Practice, New Zealand.

1442
01:09:29,053 --> 01:09:32,492
Speaker 3: He's a specialist GP based in Potty Door. Are very interesting,

1443
01:09:32,572 --> 01:09:34,333
Speaker 3: but love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred and

1444
01:09:34,333 --> 01:09:36,492
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you're

1445
01:09:36,532 --> 01:09:39,572
Speaker 3: on we GOV or sex Indre or one of these

1446
01:09:39,612 --> 01:09:42,452
Speaker 3: other injectable weight loss drugs. Love to hear how it's going.

1447
01:09:42,692 --> 01:09:44,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, and have if you've been on it and you've

1448
01:09:44,572 --> 01:09:48,212
Speaker 2: come off. We'd like to see what the post situation

1449
01:09:48,412 --> 01:09:48,612
Speaker 2: is like.

1450
01:09:48,893 --> 01:09:52,333
Speaker 1: It is quarter to three, the issues that affect you,

1451
01:09:52,692 --> 01:09:54,892
Speaker 1: and a bit of fun along the way. Matt Heath

1452
01:09:54,973 --> 01:09:58,812
Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk said, be twelve to three.

1453
01:09:58,853 --> 01:10:01,692
Speaker 3: We're talking about we Go V six and a whole

1454
01:10:01,732 --> 01:10:04,692
Speaker 3: bunch of these injectable weight loss drugs. If you've tried them,

1455
01:10:04,772 --> 01:10:05,412
Speaker 3: love to hear from you.

1456
01:10:05,772 --> 01:10:08,133
Speaker 2: My USA friend you sit and said when she came

1457
01:10:08,173 --> 01:10:11,493
Speaker 2: off she was obsessed with food, couldn't stop ate everything

1458
01:10:11,652 --> 01:10:12,253
Speaker 2: in her past.

1459
01:10:12,492 --> 01:10:14,852
Speaker 3: That's certainly not what you want to ski got on

1460
01:10:14,933 --> 01:10:15,372
Speaker 3: her path.

1461
01:10:16,933 --> 01:10:18,772
Speaker 1: Let's move on, Andy, welcome to the show.

1462
01:10:20,133 --> 01:10:21,052
Speaker 16: Good afternoon lads.

1463
01:10:21,093 --> 01:10:23,892
Speaker 2: How are you very girls? So you've been on what's

1464
01:10:23,973 --> 01:10:27,492
Speaker 2: what's the drug that you've been on? Andy, the medicine.

1465
01:10:27,532 --> 01:10:31,372
Speaker 16: I'm I'm on to Yeah, I'm on an addictable called Trulicity.

1466
01:10:31,492 --> 01:10:34,492
Speaker 16: I've been on it for about just about two years.

1467
01:10:35,333 --> 01:10:38,812
Speaker 16: And I'm a European male in my mid fifties. I

1468
01:10:38,973 --> 01:10:44,013
Speaker 16: had type two diabetes, high blood pressure, and gout and

1469
01:10:45,412 --> 01:10:47,093
Speaker 16: I was I'm five ft five when I was one

1470
01:10:47,173 --> 01:10:52,333
Speaker 16: hundred and ten kgs and I lost thirty kgs in

1471
01:10:52,812 --> 01:10:57,732
Speaker 16: about two and a half months. And wow, completely completely

1472
01:10:57,853 --> 01:11:01,652
Speaker 16: cured my diabetes and my gout and my high blood pressure.

1473
01:11:02,372 --> 01:11:04,812
Speaker 2: Wow, how long ago I was sandy?

1474
01:11:05,013 --> 01:11:05,173
Speaker 16: When?

1475
01:11:05,253 --> 01:11:06,812
Speaker 2: When when there's this all take place? So I think

1476
01:11:06,853 --> 01:11:07,612
Speaker 2: you said, but I missed it.

1477
01:11:08,732 --> 01:11:11,892
Speaker 16: No, it was just about two years ago, I'd be. Yeah,

1478
01:11:11,893 --> 01:11:14,053
Speaker 16: i'd been I'd been on diabetes drugs for a number

1479
01:11:14,093 --> 01:11:17,053
Speaker 16: of years and went to the doctor and the doctor said, mate,

1480
01:11:17,093 --> 01:11:18,812
Speaker 16: you really need to lose some weight. Do you want

1481
01:11:18,812 --> 01:11:21,012
Speaker 16: me to help you out with that? And I'm like, yeah,

1482
01:11:21,133 --> 01:11:23,932
Speaker 16: yes please, And he said, look, you have to qualify,

1483
01:11:24,093 --> 01:11:29,213
Speaker 16: but I'll press the right buttons and he made sure

1484
01:11:29,213 --> 01:11:32,572
Speaker 16: that I did qualify for it, and yeah, it's changed

1485
01:11:32,612 --> 01:11:35,732
Speaker 16: my life really, Like I'm you know, I'm walking five

1486
01:11:36,013 --> 01:11:37,933
Speaker 16: k three or four times a week now, which I

1487
01:11:38,093 --> 01:11:41,652
Speaker 16: wasn't doing. The dog's a lot happier, you know. And

1488
01:11:42,893 --> 01:11:44,933
Speaker 16: it makes you eat more, It makes you eat a

1489
01:11:44,973 --> 01:11:48,412
Speaker 16: lot healthier. And it's not only affected myself, like my

1490
01:11:48,572 --> 01:11:51,852
Speaker 16: wife's lost ten cages because I have to eat better.

1491
01:11:52,013 --> 01:11:54,652
Speaker 16: I just I can't tolerate a lot of food with

1492
01:11:54,772 --> 01:11:56,172
Speaker 16: a lot of preservatives anymore.

1493
01:11:56,853 --> 01:11:57,892
Speaker 13: Just stay inside.

1494
01:11:58,173 --> 01:11:58,372
Speaker 4: Wow.

1495
01:11:59,253 --> 01:12:02,253
Speaker 16: And it forces you to eat more healthy, I just

1496
01:12:03,053 --> 01:12:05,933
Speaker 16: you know, and I only eat once a day. I

1497
01:12:06,093 --> 01:12:09,012
Speaker 16: only eat an evening meal and it's a very small portion.

1498
01:12:09,412 --> 01:12:11,812
Speaker 2: How your energy levels with only eating once a day?

1499
01:12:13,293 --> 01:12:13,532
Speaker 10: Great?

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01:12:14,333 --> 01:12:17,173
Speaker 16: I honestly I feel healthy than I did in my twenties.

1501
01:12:17,253 --> 01:12:17,772
Speaker 1: Right right?

1502
01:12:18,612 --> 01:12:18,732
Speaker 4: Uh?

1503
01:12:19,093 --> 01:12:24,213
Speaker 2: And yeah, So when you're losing that much weight, I

1504
01:12:24,293 --> 01:12:27,652
Speaker 2: mean there must be other effects of it, right, I

1505
01:12:27,732 --> 01:12:29,452
Speaker 2: mean what kind of side effects did you have on that,

1506
01:12:29,732 --> 01:12:31,932
Speaker 2: you know, I mean losing well did you say thirty

1507
01:12:32,013 --> 01:12:33,573
Speaker 2: kg in two months.

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01:12:34,532 --> 01:12:35,333
Speaker 13: Two and a half months.

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01:12:35,372 --> 01:12:35,572
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:12:35,572 --> 01:12:37,532
Speaker 16: So the biggest side effect was it cost me a

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01:12:37,572 --> 01:12:38,212
Speaker 16: new wardrobe.

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01:12:38,652 --> 01:12:41,532
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so that was quite a good one.

1513
01:12:42,013 --> 01:12:44,412
Speaker 16: But I have to say, like when I went to

1514
01:12:44,452 --> 01:12:46,133
Speaker 16: the Dolta and he changed my medication, I have to

1515
01:12:46,173 --> 01:12:49,692
Speaker 16: say I didn't tell my wife, and the first seven

1516
01:12:49,772 --> 01:12:52,173
Speaker 16: days on it were pretty hard. I was spending a

1517
01:12:52,213 --> 01:12:54,213
Speaker 16: lot of time. Anything that I put in was going

1518
01:12:54,293 --> 01:12:58,372
Speaker 16: back down the porcelain throne, right. And after a few

1519
01:12:58,492 --> 01:13:00,532
Speaker 16: days my wife sent me that sat me down and said,

1520
01:13:00,572 --> 01:13:01,652
Speaker 16: what is going on with you?

1521
01:13:01,973 --> 01:13:02,133
Speaker 4: You know?

1522
01:13:02,492 --> 01:13:04,532
Speaker 16: And so I cat came clean.

1523
01:13:04,692 --> 01:13:07,253
Speaker 2: Well you're spending your time and upstairs and the toilet

1524
01:13:07,452 --> 01:13:07,812
Speaker 2: kind of thing.

1525
01:13:08,412 --> 01:13:11,732
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right, but I came clean. And you know,

1526
01:13:12,372 --> 01:13:14,412
Speaker 16: as I said, it's been absolutely life changing for me.

1527
01:13:14,652 --> 01:13:18,132
Speaker 16: And I'm not even pre diabetic anymore. I am clearly

1528
01:13:18,412 --> 01:13:19,293
Speaker 16: and utterly healthy.

1529
01:13:19,492 --> 01:13:22,572
Speaker 2: What about mood? What about mood? How's your mood been affected?

1530
01:13:22,732 --> 01:13:26,213
Speaker 2: Because you know, carrying around a lot of extra weight

1531
01:13:26,452 --> 01:13:28,933
Speaker 2: just makes everything more difficult, doesn't it.

1532
01:13:29,093 --> 01:13:34,333
Speaker 16: And yeah, absolutely, it's it's there's not an aspect of

1533
01:13:34,412 --> 01:13:37,293
Speaker 16: my life, including my sex life, which hasn't been greatly improved.

1534
01:13:38,133 --> 01:13:40,532
Speaker 3: Libido's a good thing. Libidos are great there.

1535
01:13:40,853 --> 01:13:44,412
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, honestly, it's I and you know, I can

1536
01:13:44,492 --> 01:13:46,972
Speaker 16: only tell my story on it, but it's been it's

1537
01:13:47,013 --> 01:13:50,173
Speaker 16: worked wonders for me, and I intend to stay on

1538
01:13:50,253 --> 01:13:52,492
Speaker 16: as long as I can. And my belief is that

1539
01:13:52,572 --> 01:13:54,532
Speaker 16: once I've qualified, I can stay on it for life.

1540
01:13:54,692 --> 01:13:54,892
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1541
01:13:54,973 --> 01:13:55,852
Speaker 3: How much does it cost you?

1542
01:13:56,013 --> 01:14:00,492
Speaker 16: And it's so it's fully funded for me, but I did.

1543
01:14:00,572 --> 01:14:03,892
Speaker 16: I had a discussion with my doctor just last month

1544
01:14:04,253 --> 01:14:05,732
Speaker 16: and he was saying, if I wanted to pay for

1545
01:14:05,812 --> 01:14:08,572
Speaker 16: it privately, it's about two hundred and sixty to three

1546
01:14:08,652 --> 01:14:11,732
Speaker 16: hundred dollars a month, which again, you know if you

1547
01:14:11,853 --> 01:14:15,572
Speaker 16: earn an addition income. If I didn't qualify and came

1548
01:14:15,612 --> 01:14:17,412
Speaker 16: off it, I would I'd like to think I would

1549
01:14:17,412 --> 01:14:20,532
Speaker 16: actually pay for it personally because it's been it's been

1550
01:14:20,612 --> 01:14:21,532
Speaker 16: such a change for me.

1551
01:14:22,053 --> 01:14:23,333
Speaker 3: Do you go, Thank you so much for your call,

1552
01:14:23,372 --> 01:14:25,812
Speaker 3: Andy work wonders for Andy trullicity. I've never heard of

1553
01:14:25,893 --> 01:14:26,253
Speaker 3: that before.

1554
01:14:26,412 --> 01:14:30,012
Speaker 2: So that's a positive story for medicating yourself to weight loss.

1555
01:14:30,133 --> 01:14:31,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, but ken to hear your stories. I eight one

1556
01:14:31,853 --> 01:14:33,492
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've been on one

1557
01:14:33,532 --> 01:14:36,612
Speaker 3: of these weight loss injectables, ken to hear how it

1558
01:14:36,692 --> 01:14:38,652
Speaker 3: went for you. It is eight minutes to three.

1559
01:14:39,412 --> 01:14:41,812
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1560
01:14:41,893 --> 01:14:45,812
Speaker 1: along the way. Mad Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons used talks,

1561
01:14:45,812 --> 01:14:46,133
Speaker 1: it'd be.

1562
01:14:47,772 --> 01:14:50,572
Speaker 3: It is five to three. Quite a few taks to

1563
01:14:50,612 --> 01:14:51,372
Speaker 3: come through on this one.

1564
01:14:51,492 --> 01:14:53,532
Speaker 2: Great for Andy, just a bit frustrated that taxpayers are

1565
01:14:53,532 --> 01:14:55,412
Speaker 2: paying thousands dollars a year when he could just go

1566
01:14:55,532 --> 01:15:00,053
Speaker 2: for a walk instead. All right, now, hi guys. A

1567
01:15:00,173 --> 01:15:03,812
Speaker 2: year or so ago, I took sex Xander. After about

1568
01:15:03,812 --> 01:15:06,053
Speaker 2: three weeks so I got so dehydrated I fainted in

1569
01:15:06,093 --> 01:15:09,333
Speaker 2: front of a neighbor must have scared get out of them,

1570
01:15:09,652 --> 01:15:11,973
Speaker 2: and then went to Anne where overnight they put me

1571
01:15:12,013 --> 01:15:15,053
Speaker 2: on a drip. Renal issues are noted as a rear

1572
01:15:15,133 --> 01:15:17,772
Speaker 2: side effect. Yeah you don't say, right as rain the

1573
01:15:17,853 --> 01:15:21,372
Speaker 2: next day? Not taking that again, I'm not surprised. I

1574
01:15:21,452 --> 01:15:25,532
Speaker 2: mean a lot of these things. You know, you've got

1575
01:15:25,612 --> 01:15:27,772
Speaker 2: to hydrate, You got to you gotta hydrate.

1576
01:15:27,933 --> 01:15:30,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, good advice for life. I think, just hydrate. Yeah,

1577
01:15:30,853 --> 01:15:34,652
Speaker 3: keep yourself. I'm on hydrate hydration pills. You are, actually

1578
01:15:34,692 --> 01:15:37,572
Speaker 3: you've brought your wee water droplets and today I think, yeah.

1579
01:15:37,492 --> 01:15:39,293
Speaker 1: Yeah, I running a lot of hydration these days.

1580
01:15:39,372 --> 01:15:40,293
Speaker 3: Love it good to see.

1581
01:15:40,372 --> 01:15:42,093
Speaker 2: Right, go to the bathroom a lot though, to be fair,

1582
01:15:42,093 --> 01:15:43,293
Speaker 2: and it's miles away from the studio.

1583
01:15:43,333 --> 01:15:43,612
Speaker 4: You need that.

1584
01:15:43,692 --> 01:15:44,372
Speaker 3: You're aino in here.

1585
01:15:45,253 --> 01:15:45,412
Speaker 1: Right.

1586
01:15:45,612 --> 01:15:47,133
Speaker 3: We are going to carry this on because we've got

1587
01:15:47,133 --> 01:15:48,412
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of people want to have a chat

1588
01:15:48,412 --> 01:15:50,532
Speaker 3: about this, So if you're on we Go v or

1589
01:15:50,652 --> 01:15:52,893
Speaker 3: sex Indo or you were really can never check with

1590
01:15:52,973 --> 01:15:55,253
Speaker 3: your how did it go? Was it a miracle drug

1591
01:15:55,333 --> 01:15:56,772
Speaker 3: or did it not turn out so well?

1592
01:15:56,853 --> 01:15:56,973
Speaker 4: Oh?

1593
01:15:57,013 --> 01:15:59,412
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty teen eighty is that number of

1594
01:15:59,452 --> 01:16:00,932
Speaker 3: cool nine two nine too? If you want to send

1595
01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:03,133
Speaker 3: a texture listening to Matton Tyler, Are you having a

1596
01:16:03,173 --> 01:16:06,492
Speaker 3: great Tuesday afternoon? Stay right here, We'll be back very surely.

1597
01:16:11,452 --> 01:16:22,492
Speaker 1: Your new home are in satel and Entertaining Talk. It's

1598
01:16:22,652 --> 01:16:26,333
Speaker 1: Matty and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

1599
01:16:26,452 --> 01:16:31,612
Speaker 3: Sebby, Welcome back into the show. Great debut company. As always,

1600
01:16:31,652 --> 01:16:34,372
Speaker 3: we're talking about the buzz around the likes of we Go,

1601
01:16:34,652 --> 01:16:37,253
Speaker 3: the sex Ender and the one we heard in the

1602
01:16:37,333 --> 01:16:40,253
Speaker 3: last hour Trulyicity. And there's a few more injectable weight

1603
01:16:40,452 --> 01:16:45,492
Speaker 3: loss drugs out there that people are consuming quite at

1604
01:16:45,532 --> 01:16:47,093
Speaker 3: a quite common rate. So I'd love to hear from

1605
01:16:47,093 --> 01:16:48,692
Speaker 3: you on one hundred and eight ten eighty if that's you.

1606
01:16:48,893 --> 01:16:51,692
Speaker 2: So, I think Trulicity is a slightly different situation, isn't

1607
01:16:51,692 --> 01:16:57,772
Speaker 2: it than the other two? So Tradisity contains sudy suggest

1608
01:16:57,812 --> 01:17:01,612
Speaker 2: there's yeah, I mean it's still in the same conversation

1609
01:17:02,093 --> 01:17:04,972
Speaker 2: I guess I'd have to unpack some really long words there.

1610
01:17:05,053 --> 01:17:07,772
Speaker 3: It's pretty complicated. I tried to researcher myself, but there's

1611
01:17:07,772 --> 01:17:08,293
Speaker 3: a lot in there.

1612
01:17:09,293 --> 01:17:12,932
Speaker 2: Hey, regard were Goovi, some major side effects like all

1613
01:17:13,013 --> 01:17:18,253
Speaker 2: weight reduction tools, people will plateau and regain apparently, welcome

1614
01:17:18,253 --> 01:17:18,652
Speaker 2: to the show.

1615
01:17:19,492 --> 01:17:20,013
Speaker 3: Pay is it?

1616
01:17:21,532 --> 01:17:21,652
Speaker 4: Yes?

1617
01:17:21,732 --> 01:17:22,053
Speaker 16: It is?

1618
01:17:22,173 --> 01:17:22,293
Speaker 12: Hi.

1619
01:17:23,173 --> 01:17:25,652
Speaker 2: Hey, you've been very well. Think you think of a calling.

1620
01:17:25,933 --> 01:17:28,852
Speaker 2: So you've been on we goov for three months?

1621
01:17:28,933 --> 01:17:30,772
Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah?

1622
01:17:30,893 --> 01:17:33,973
Speaker 6: Two and a half months going. It's getting to the

1623
01:17:34,133 --> 01:17:35,572
Speaker 6: end of my third months now.

1624
01:17:36,093 --> 01:17:37,053
Speaker 2: And how's it going for you?

1625
01:17:38,732 --> 01:17:42,492
Speaker 13: Well, at first it was no real you.

1626
01:17:42,532 --> 01:17:45,093
Speaker 6: Know, no real differences. They started on a very low

1627
01:17:45,213 --> 01:17:48,852
Speaker 6: dostage like point two five milligrams, and then after months

1628
01:17:48,933 --> 01:17:52,013
Speaker 6: one of those doubles two point five, and then it

1629
01:17:52,133 --> 01:17:56,492
Speaker 6: doubles to one milligram and you slowly pulled up. I

1630
01:17:56,612 --> 01:18:01,892
Speaker 6: found the first month not too not too different. Still

1631
01:18:01,933 --> 01:18:08,652
Speaker 6: had hunger, and you know, I didn't lose didn't lose much, uh,

1632
01:18:08,853 --> 01:18:12,532
Speaker 6: you know, about two kilograms two kilograms. But then now

1633
01:18:13,452 --> 01:18:16,852
Speaker 6: you know, in the in the last months, I'm right down.

1634
01:18:17,173 --> 01:18:20,692
Speaker 6: I've probably lost about eight and a half kilograms. Now, wow,

1635
01:18:21,213 --> 01:18:22,652
Speaker 6: steady on the kilogram a week.

1636
01:18:22,893 --> 01:18:26,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, And how is everything else going? Is there any

1637
01:18:26,372 --> 01:18:27,012
Speaker 2: side effects?

1638
01:18:29,372 --> 01:18:31,772
Speaker 6: The biggest side effect for me is my love for

1639
01:18:31,853 --> 01:18:34,333
Speaker 6: red one. It's just gone up the window. I mean,

1640
01:18:35,293 --> 01:18:38,053
Speaker 6: I just can't. I cannot stand the smell of red

1641
01:18:38,133 --> 01:18:40,732
Speaker 6: one an when I used to love read one right,

1642
01:18:40,893 --> 01:18:43,452
Speaker 6: So that goes the same just about all alcohol. It

1643
01:18:43,973 --> 01:18:47,092
Speaker 6: just puts me off alcohol. And you know, earlier callers

1644
01:18:47,133 --> 01:18:50,612
Speaker 6: said that you get put off certain foods, and it

1645
01:18:50,772 --> 01:18:54,613
Speaker 6: does that. Fatty foods and things want whole foods, vegetables,

1646
01:18:54,692 --> 01:18:57,812
Speaker 6: those kinds of things are promoted. Wow, I mean your

1647
01:18:58,372 --> 01:19:01,492
Speaker 6: body feels better with them. And certainly alcohol. It's just

1648
01:19:02,173 --> 01:19:03,253
Speaker 6: just gone off all call.

1649
01:19:03,412 --> 01:19:05,732
Speaker 2: So I know, a piece of fried check in, if

1650
01:19:05,772 --> 01:19:07,372
Speaker 2: that was put in front of you, would you feel

1651
01:19:07,452 --> 01:19:08,173
Speaker 2: repulsed by it?

1652
01:19:10,532 --> 01:19:13,053
Speaker 6: Wouldn't feel repulse by, but you wouldn't have the urge

1653
01:19:13,133 --> 01:19:16,293
Speaker 6: to even eat it, where previously I would take two pieces,

1654
01:19:16,372 --> 01:19:17,652
Speaker 6: you know, to go through.

1655
01:19:18,333 --> 01:19:20,692
Speaker 2: What about things like chips, because I always think with me,

1656
01:19:20,893 --> 01:19:23,493
Speaker 2: it's the fries that get me. I can't stop.

1657
01:19:25,572 --> 01:19:27,972
Speaker 6: I actually go to a meal. No, when you eat out,

1658
01:19:28,013 --> 01:19:31,692
Speaker 6: now I actually have for example, I'll have the steak

1659
01:19:31,812 --> 01:19:36,972
Speaker 6: with vegetables or salad rather than the chips. Now, yeah,

1660
01:19:37,053 --> 01:19:39,852
Speaker 6: you just because you can't eat too much and as

1661
01:19:39,893 --> 01:19:42,372
Speaker 6: a results, you just want to eat as much protein

1662
01:19:42,372 --> 01:19:45,012
Speaker 6: as you can. You don't want to lose that muscle mess,

1663
01:19:45,213 --> 01:19:47,773
Speaker 6: so you end up not eating the chips.

1664
01:19:48,053 --> 01:19:50,612
Speaker 2: Right, And so if you don't mind me asking how

1665
01:19:51,333 --> 01:19:54,732
Speaker 2: overweight were you and how concerned were you about your

1666
01:19:54,853 --> 01:19:56,892
Speaker 2: weight that you went to the doctor?

1667
01:19:57,013 --> 01:19:57,133
Speaker 6: Was it?

1668
01:19:57,293 --> 01:20:00,732
Speaker 2: Was it a health issue? Was a how you looked

1669
01:20:00,732 --> 01:20:01,133
Speaker 2: a shoe?

1670
01:20:01,333 --> 01:20:01,612
Speaker 4: You know what?

1671
01:20:01,732 --> 01:20:02,692
Speaker 2: What took you to the doctor?

1672
01:20:04,173 --> 01:20:05,612
Speaker 10: I think a little bit of all of it.

1673
01:20:05,692 --> 01:20:08,253
Speaker 6: You know, I'm five foot seven, I weighed a hundred

1674
01:20:08,253 --> 01:20:13,012
Speaker 6: and one kilograms and I'm supposed to be around eighty,

1675
01:20:13,812 --> 01:20:17,133
Speaker 6: so good overweight, and I'm an asthmatic, so.

1676
01:20:18,732 --> 01:20:19,333
Speaker 1: The weight.

1677
01:20:22,372 --> 01:20:25,372
Speaker 13: I think, you know.

1678
01:20:25,812 --> 01:20:29,412
Speaker 6: I also wanted to I also wanted to paddle a

1679
01:20:29,532 --> 01:20:32,652
Speaker 6: wastyr surf and I haven't been able to tend the

1680
01:20:32,732 --> 01:20:36,692
Speaker 6: New Zealand Wasty Chaps in Gisbon every every Yeaster. And

1681
01:20:36,853 --> 01:20:38,692
Speaker 6: I really wanted to get back on my board and

1682
01:20:39,572 --> 01:20:43,732
Speaker 6: get fit again. And this is what's what's actually stopping

1683
01:20:43,812 --> 01:20:44,053
Speaker 6: going on.

1684
01:20:44,133 --> 01:20:44,972
Speaker 1: It's a good goal.

1685
01:20:45,492 --> 01:20:48,812
Speaker 3: So the old the you know the fact you've had

1686
01:20:48,933 --> 01:20:51,412
Speaker 3: to inject it into your stomach was that something that

1687
01:20:51,532 --> 01:20:52,572
Speaker 3: you had to get your head around.

1688
01:20:55,333 --> 01:20:58,852
Speaker 6: No, I don't in my stomach. It on injected in

1689
01:20:58,933 --> 01:20:59,333
Speaker 6: my thigh.

1690
01:20:59,652 --> 01:21:02,452
Speaker 3: Ah okay, oh so yeah, so I was misinformed. I

1691
01:21:02,492 --> 01:21:03,412
Speaker 3: thought it had to be in the gut.

1692
01:21:04,973 --> 01:21:06,772
Speaker 6: No. No, you can put it in your sigh, you

1693
01:21:06,812 --> 01:21:08,173
Speaker 6: can put it in your arm, or you can put

1694
01:21:08,173 --> 01:21:10,932
Speaker 6: it in you've got It's one of those three places. Really.

1695
01:21:12,333 --> 01:21:14,492
Speaker 2: And you know, people are saying that, you know when

1696
01:21:14,532 --> 01:21:18,013
Speaker 2: you get off, the drug will go the that that

1697
01:21:18,173 --> 01:21:21,492
Speaker 2: appetite comes back. Is this a lifetime thing for you?

1698
01:21:22,412 --> 01:21:24,772
Speaker 2: Or have you got a plan for when you get off?

1699
01:21:24,812 --> 01:21:26,412
Speaker 2: How long you take it? When you reach your weight

1700
01:21:26,492 --> 01:21:29,053
Speaker 2: goal where you jump off it, what's what's the plan pay?

1701
01:21:30,612 --> 01:21:32,932
Speaker 6: Well, look, I'm paying for it myself and it's about

1702
01:21:32,973 --> 01:21:36,452
Speaker 6: five hundred dollars a month, probably saving that in wine.

1703
01:21:38,293 --> 01:21:41,812
Speaker 6: But I think the long term goal for me is

1704
01:21:41,933 --> 01:21:45,092
Speaker 6: just to get down to the to the weight class

1705
01:21:45,293 --> 01:21:47,812
Speaker 6: the weight that I want. I want to try and

1706
01:21:47,893 --> 01:21:51,133
Speaker 6: wean myself off it by kind of stepping down. You know,

1707
01:21:51,372 --> 01:21:54,932
Speaker 6: once I'm on the highest one point seven or two

1708
01:21:54,973 --> 01:21:58,532
Speaker 6: point formula grams, go right down down again and see

1709
01:21:58,652 --> 01:22:02,812
Speaker 6: if I can actually keep the hunger noise away but

1710
01:22:03,253 --> 01:22:05,372
Speaker 6: I'm quite willing to stay on it. If it actually

1711
01:22:05,492 --> 01:22:08,652
Speaker 6: keeps me keeps me, then I'm quite willing to pay

1712
01:22:09,253 --> 01:22:11,093
Speaker 6: the five hundred bucks a month. I've just had my

1713
01:22:11,213 --> 01:22:13,852
Speaker 6: blood's done and they all came back good. My liver

1714
01:22:13,973 --> 01:22:19,452
Speaker 6: function has improved, lesterol has dropped, my blood pressure has

1715
01:22:19,532 --> 01:22:22,972
Speaker 6: dropped as well. So it's got a lot of good positives.

1716
01:22:23,333 --> 01:22:26,772
Speaker 2: So are there any side Oh? Sorry, you're guys going

1717
01:22:26,812 --> 01:22:27,812
Speaker 2: to talk about side effects?

1718
01:22:28,173 --> 01:22:28,333
Speaker 4: Pay?

1719
01:22:28,412 --> 01:22:29,172
Speaker 2: Sorry interrupted?

1720
01:22:29,213 --> 01:22:33,293
Speaker 6: You. Yeah, Look, when when it steps up that very fast,

1721
01:22:33,572 --> 01:22:36,852
Speaker 6: you know, the next melogram up or the next dosage up,

1722
01:22:37,853 --> 01:22:44,292
Speaker 6: I really really got sick, like I feel, it's really nauseous.

1723
01:22:45,492 --> 01:22:48,732
Speaker 6: It kind of subsides off to two days. But if

1724
01:22:48,812 --> 01:22:52,293
Speaker 6: you drink a lot of water, and you drink and

1725
01:22:52,492 --> 01:22:54,932
Speaker 6: it's hard to drink the water because you just don't

1726
01:22:54,973 --> 01:22:58,133
Speaker 6: even want to drink or eat anything really, But if

1727
01:22:58,173 --> 01:23:00,492
Speaker 6: you just force yourself to drink the water, it actually

1728
01:23:00,612 --> 01:23:03,612
Speaker 6: that that subsides quite quickly. It only takes about two days.

1729
01:23:04,853 --> 01:23:05,013
Speaker 1: Right.

1730
01:23:05,173 --> 01:23:07,732
Speaker 2: And what about muscle loss, because you talked about you

1731
01:23:07,772 --> 01:23:10,253
Speaker 2: want to eat pro team to keep the muscle up.

1732
01:23:10,532 --> 01:23:13,732
Speaker 2: But is it fat you're losing or fat and muscle?

1733
01:23:15,412 --> 01:23:18,893
Speaker 6: Well, well, I haven't got a technical way of measuring that.

1734
01:23:18,973 --> 01:23:20,732
Speaker 6: I've got to a scale that kind of says what

1735
01:23:20,893 --> 01:23:26,052
Speaker 6: my body fat percentages, and that is dropping in line

1736
01:23:26,253 --> 01:23:29,572
Speaker 6: almost with infect more than with my telegram. So I

1737
01:23:29,692 --> 01:23:32,852
Speaker 6: know that I've lost a lot of body fat itself.

1738
01:23:34,253 --> 01:23:37,412
Speaker 6: I'm worried about my muscle mass. I'm in my fifties.

1739
01:23:37,492 --> 01:23:42,253
Speaker 6: I'm fifty four, and I don't want to lose any

1740
01:23:42,333 --> 01:23:45,173
Speaker 6: muscle mass. So that's I've just read up a lot

1741
01:23:45,253 --> 01:23:47,412
Speaker 6: about it. And to make sure that you just take

1742
01:23:47,452 --> 01:23:52,133
Speaker 6: the protein. I do feel tired, sometimes too tired to

1743
01:23:52,253 --> 01:23:56,412
Speaker 6: actually do any exercises, but I forced my class does that.

1744
01:23:57,532 --> 01:24:00,213
Speaker 2: Everyone struggles with the energy and are you are you

1745
01:24:00,293 --> 01:24:02,532
Speaker 2: lifting weights at all or anything like that.

1746
01:24:03,013 --> 01:24:07,812
Speaker 6: Pay I'm doing kettlebell exercises, you know, as much as

1747
01:24:07,853 --> 01:24:10,973
Speaker 6: I can. And I do eat twice a day. I

1748
01:24:11,093 --> 01:24:14,093
Speaker 6: eat at eleven and I eat at around six, so

1749
01:24:14,213 --> 01:24:17,652
Speaker 6: I do sixteen hours foust, which this has helped me

1750
01:24:17,732 --> 01:24:20,812
Speaker 6: with anyway. And I try and just stay on the protein.

1751
01:24:21,452 --> 01:24:24,932
Speaker 2: And what about your mood, because people that lose weight

1752
01:24:25,013 --> 01:24:26,652
Speaker 2: often say that that, you know, they get a bit

1753
01:24:26,652 --> 01:24:30,612
Speaker 2: of a bit of ye a joyous feeling about life

1754
01:24:30,692 --> 01:24:32,012
Speaker 2: that they didn't have before.

1755
01:24:34,013 --> 01:24:36,093
Speaker 6: Someone just told me the other day there's like a

1756
01:24:36,173 --> 01:24:40,053
Speaker 6: glow around me now, and it is true. I mean,

1757
01:24:40,213 --> 01:24:43,933
Speaker 6: my moods are better. I'm a little bit I'm not

1758
01:24:44,013 --> 01:24:48,532
Speaker 6: as grumpy towards my kids, and yeah, I'm just overall

1759
01:24:48,612 --> 01:24:51,253
Speaker 6: feeling a lot better. And then you know, in this

1760
01:24:51,412 --> 01:24:54,253
Speaker 6: a little injection. The day after kind of a bit

1761
01:24:54,372 --> 01:24:56,052
Speaker 6: flat and I don't want to talk to anyone because

1762
01:24:56,053 --> 01:24:59,532
Speaker 6: I'm feeling a little bit sick. But after that first

1763
01:24:59,612 --> 01:25:02,452
Speaker 6: day in that week, then I'm bit as rain.

1764
01:25:02,692 --> 01:25:02,892
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1765
01:25:02,973 --> 01:25:05,532
Speaker 2: Good on your pay, leaning into the kettle bowel over

1766
01:25:05,572 --> 01:25:06,213
Speaker 2: the kettle chips.

1767
01:25:06,253 --> 01:25:06,812
Speaker 1: It's good to hear.

1768
01:25:06,973 --> 01:25:09,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Nicely see it. Oh, one hundred eighty

1769
01:25:09,933 --> 01:25:12,173
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. I'd love to

1770
01:25:12,213 --> 01:25:14,772
Speaker 3: hear your stories about we Govy and the like. It

1771
01:25:14,933 --> 01:25:19,492
Speaker 3: is quarter past three. His talks'd be afternoon, eighteen past three,

1772
01:25:19,492 --> 01:25:21,572
Speaker 3: and we're talking about we govy and the like, these

1773
01:25:21,732 --> 01:25:24,253
Speaker 3: miracle weight loss drugs and if you've had them, we're

1774
01:25:24,293 --> 01:25:26,532
Speaker 3: can to hear from you. On one hundred and eighteen eighty.

1775
01:25:26,772 --> 01:25:28,973
Speaker 2: Shame says there are some horrendous stories on the New

1776
01:25:29,053 --> 01:25:32,412
Speaker 2: Zealand w'govy page. It's not as straightforward as you just

1777
01:25:32,532 --> 01:25:37,293
Speaker 2: lose weight. Yeah, I mean it definitely sounds like there's

1778
01:25:37,293 --> 01:25:40,732
Speaker 2: some side effects. I've been taking Goovy for two months.

1779
01:25:40,812 --> 01:25:43,572
Speaker 2: I lost no weight. Month one, I've lost five kg's

1780
01:25:43,652 --> 01:25:46,732
Speaker 2: month two. Some noisier month one, no noisier side effix

1781
01:25:46,812 --> 01:25:49,572
Speaker 2: month two. I was active and regularly exercised all my life,

1782
01:25:49,652 --> 01:25:52,213
Speaker 2: but middle age saw weight gain for past ten years.

1783
01:25:52,293 --> 01:25:54,972
Speaker 2: No matter how much exercise that I did, I suffered

1784
01:25:55,053 --> 01:25:58,532
Speaker 2: food noise my whole life. We're govy removed the food noise.

1785
01:25:58,572 --> 01:26:01,293
Speaker 2: It's life shaving. I've noticed I no longer use food

1786
01:26:01,293 --> 01:26:04,333
Speaker 2: as an emotional tool too. It's great expenses, large, but

1787
01:26:04,492 --> 01:26:07,333
Speaker 2: it motivates me. Food noise is an interesting thing, isn't

1788
01:26:07,333 --> 01:26:08,893
Speaker 2: it just the food calling to you?

1789
01:26:09,173 --> 01:26:09,372
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1790
01:26:09,812 --> 01:26:12,293
Speaker 3: Well a very fact. I mean, was it pay who

1791
01:26:12,412 --> 01:26:15,253
Speaker 3: said that even fried chicken or anything that he used

1792
01:26:15,293 --> 01:26:18,293
Speaker 3: to love? Red wine just discussed him. What a crazy drug?

1793
01:26:19,412 --> 01:26:20,492
Speaker 3: That is pretty incredible.

1794
01:26:20,772 --> 01:26:25,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott, you been taking Wagovi.

1795
01:26:26,093 --> 01:26:26,133
Speaker 4: No.

1796
01:26:27,532 --> 01:26:31,492
Speaker 20: Although so I'm a larger individual, but I've always been

1797
01:26:31,532 --> 01:26:36,852
Speaker 20: a larger individual. But I've got a My late wife's

1798
01:26:36,973 --> 01:26:40,893
Speaker 20: nephew was taking one of the semit glue tides and

1799
01:26:41,013 --> 01:26:43,292
Speaker 20: he's found it great. He was a full on diabetic

1800
01:26:43,812 --> 01:26:45,973
Speaker 20: and he's found that it's got rid of his diabetes

1801
01:26:47,612 --> 01:26:51,852
Speaker 20: and he's lost weight. So it worked for him. It

1802
01:26:52,013 --> 01:26:55,692
Speaker 20: wouldn't work for my wife. She had pancreatitis and that

1803
01:26:56,173 --> 01:27:00,213
Speaker 20: forced her into being a full on diabetic with other

1804
01:27:00,293 --> 01:27:03,093
Speaker 20: complications as well, and they said that she could not

1805
01:27:03,333 --> 01:27:08,333
Speaker 20: take it. And yeah, just unfortunately some of the side

1806
01:27:08,372 --> 01:27:11,013
Speaker 20: effects that you guys have listed, we're going to be

1807
01:27:11,652 --> 01:27:18,532
Speaker 20: a sort of triplicate consequence wise for her, even though,

1808
01:27:18,772 --> 01:27:20,372
Speaker 20: as I say, she was a full on diabetic and

1809
01:27:20,452 --> 01:27:22,652
Speaker 20: she could have had it described to her for free.

1810
01:27:23,333 --> 01:27:27,492
Speaker 20: But myself, like when I was twenty five and playing rugby,

1811
01:27:27,572 --> 01:27:32,172
Speaker 20: et cetera, and listening to the doctor talk about it earlier,

1812
01:27:32,853 --> 01:27:36,092
Speaker 20: he was saying BMI, and that is used to judge

1813
01:27:36,093 --> 01:27:39,293
Speaker 20: as to whether people are potentially able to use it.

1814
01:27:39,492 --> 01:27:42,652
Speaker 20: So when I was twenty five, I was out running

1815
01:27:42,772 --> 01:27:45,173
Speaker 20: eighty k's a week, I was one hundred and thirty

1816
01:27:45,213 --> 01:27:48,932
Speaker 20: five kilos, I'm six foot three, I was working fifteen

1817
01:27:49,013 --> 01:27:52,013
Speaker 20: hours a day. Or I did a medical test that

1818
01:27:52,093 --> 01:27:54,932
Speaker 20: showed I had about twelve to fifteen deceeved body fat,

1819
01:27:55,532 --> 01:27:57,172
Speaker 20: yet I was still passed as obese.

1820
01:27:57,692 --> 01:28:02,812
Speaker 2: So so yeahs So most of your weight was muscle,

1821
01:28:02,933 --> 01:28:03,532
Speaker 2: is what you're saying.

1822
01:28:04,452 --> 01:28:06,692
Speaker 20: Yeah, and it's been that way right through. So I

1823
01:28:06,772 --> 01:28:08,532
Speaker 20: started high school, I was one hundred and fifth than

1824
01:28:08,612 --> 01:28:14,492
Speaker 20: killos and five a liver. Right, But like, I've had

1825
01:28:14,532 --> 01:28:18,852
Speaker 20: a struggle with weight my whole entire life. But yeah,

1826
01:28:19,173 --> 01:28:21,133
Speaker 20: I could get a prescribed to me, but I can't

1827
01:28:21,173 --> 01:28:25,133
Speaker 20: afford that five six hundred dollars a month to be

1828
01:28:25,213 --> 01:28:26,732
Speaker 20: able to use it and trial it.

1829
01:28:29,372 --> 01:28:31,572
Speaker 2: What do you say to people, because some people are

1830
01:28:31,572 --> 01:28:33,532
Speaker 2: saying that when they got on it, they made the

1831
01:28:33,612 --> 01:28:35,572
Speaker 2: saving by not spending that money on food.

1832
01:28:37,093 --> 01:28:39,452
Speaker 20: Well, we've cut back on a lot of the food

1833
01:28:39,492 --> 01:28:42,772
Speaker 20: that we buy, and we only buy essentials really what

1834
01:28:42,933 --> 01:28:46,213
Speaker 20: we need each week now just for the you know,

1835
01:28:46,412 --> 01:28:50,732
Speaker 20: straight out price and everything. But you know, it's, yeah,

1836
01:28:51,412 --> 01:28:53,133
Speaker 20: I'm sort of deemed if I do deemed if I

1837
01:28:53,173 --> 01:28:57,532
Speaker 20: don't talking to my doctor like he has said that

1838
01:28:57,812 --> 01:29:00,812
Speaker 20: basically for my whole entire life, I'm going to have

1839
01:29:01,013 --> 01:29:03,612
Speaker 20: to consist of amounts of exercise to keep the weight off,

1840
01:29:04,013 --> 01:29:08,133
Speaker 20: regardless of whether I'm on a semiglue tide or not. Right,

1841
01:29:08,532 --> 01:29:12,013
Speaker 20: I mean, yeah, it might help me, as you say,

1842
01:29:12,093 --> 01:29:14,893
Speaker 20: with some of the food noise. But I find that

1843
01:29:15,013 --> 01:29:19,812
Speaker 20: I'm only eating when I'm hungry anyway, so that's not

1844
01:29:20,013 --> 01:29:22,652
Speaker 20: really going to help me in any way, shape or form.

1845
01:29:24,173 --> 01:29:27,053
Speaker 2: So what's your solution. What's your solution, Scott, if you

1846
01:29:27,133 --> 01:29:27,492
Speaker 2: need one?

1847
01:29:29,053 --> 01:29:31,732
Speaker 20: Well, I don't know. Like my doctor's talking about various

1848
01:29:31,812 --> 01:29:36,213
Speaker 20: metric surgery, but as I say, I can put on

1849
01:29:36,412 --> 01:29:41,812
Speaker 20: and lose muscle mass very quickly. But yeah, like I'd

1850
01:29:41,933 --> 01:29:43,852
Speaker 20: like to try it, but I just can't afford to

1851
01:29:44,013 --> 01:29:48,053
Speaker 20: you basically. But yeah, it was interesting listening to what

1852
01:29:48,253 --> 01:29:51,372
Speaker 20: the doctor was saying around when you were talking to

1853
01:29:51,532 --> 01:29:54,093
Speaker 20: him and how they use all the different measures. But

1854
01:29:54,253 --> 01:29:57,572
Speaker 20: then the different measures don't really come into it, so

1855
01:29:58,293 --> 01:30:01,133
Speaker 20: you know, So look at somebody Williams in the All Blacks,

1856
01:30:01,173 --> 01:30:04,572
Speaker 20: for example, I was his size ish, but I was

1857
01:30:04,652 --> 01:30:07,852
Speaker 20: a little bit leaner than him, about roughly the same age.

1858
01:30:09,492 --> 01:30:12,293
Speaker 20: I was considered obese. Would you say, Tamaiti Williams of

1859
01:30:12,372 --> 01:30:14,932
Speaker 20: the elite athlete than is obese.

1860
01:30:16,812 --> 01:30:20,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's certainly looks a little different than he

1861
01:30:20,173 --> 01:30:22,732
Speaker 2: did when he started, but no, that goes an absolute athlete,

1862
01:30:23,652 --> 01:30:27,253
Speaker 2: and how good to have someone that big in our team.

1863
01:30:27,293 --> 01:30:29,213
Speaker 2: We've met guys for a while.

1864
01:30:29,253 --> 01:30:32,973
Speaker 20: Although you know, would you guys class him as an

1865
01:30:33,013 --> 01:30:37,412
Speaker 20: obese person. He's an elite athlete, would you say he's obese.

1866
01:30:37,612 --> 01:30:41,853
Speaker 13: No, we looked after by medical specialists and physical specialists.

1867
01:30:42,293 --> 01:30:44,133
Speaker 3: But we know the problem. We know the problem with

1868
01:30:44,213 --> 01:30:46,932
Speaker 3: the b M I scale. Scott is a very blunt too,

1869
01:30:47,013 --> 01:30:48,972
Speaker 3: and that's been known for a long time.

1870
01:30:50,812 --> 01:30:54,692
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, like all feeling is dividing your weight

1871
01:30:54,853 --> 01:30:57,092
Speaker 2: by the square of your height to give a score.

1872
01:30:57,253 --> 01:31:01,132
Speaker 2: So what's actually in there? Yeah, as and I imagine

1873
01:31:01,173 --> 01:31:03,772
Speaker 2: and to Mighty Williams there's a lot of muscle in there.

1874
01:31:04,933 --> 01:31:05,133
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1875
01:31:05,213 --> 01:31:08,532
Speaker 20: So I mean I was similar size and shape as say,

1876
01:31:08,612 --> 01:31:11,532
Speaker 20: just a little bit leaner at his age, but I was,

1877
01:31:11,612 --> 01:31:14,213
Speaker 20: as I say, dairy farming. So I was fifteen working

1878
01:31:14,333 --> 01:31:16,852
Speaker 20: fifteen hours plus a week, plus I was running after work.

1879
01:31:16,893 --> 01:31:19,093
Speaker 20: Plus I was doing all the trap well not all

1880
01:31:19,133 --> 01:31:20,933
Speaker 20: the trainings that they're doing, and I wasn't going to

1881
01:31:21,013 --> 01:31:23,652
Speaker 20: the gym. But I was farm for farm strong. So

1882
01:31:23,812 --> 01:31:26,173
Speaker 20: I was probably as strong, if not maybe we stronger

1883
01:31:26,213 --> 01:31:30,412
Speaker 20: than hum. So I mean, yeah, it's swings aroundabouts, but

1884
01:31:30,612 --> 01:31:32,333
Speaker 20: when it comes down to the money side of it,

1885
01:31:32,853 --> 01:31:35,053
Speaker 20: that's what's putting. I think a lot of people off

1886
01:31:35,253 --> 01:31:39,253
Speaker 20: being able to get the necessary medicine you could say,

1887
01:31:39,412 --> 01:31:43,333
Speaker 20: or the necessary tools to be able to use it.

1888
01:31:43,492 --> 01:31:43,692
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1889
01:31:44,013 --> 01:31:46,372
Speaker 2: Do you think it should be government subsidized Scott?

1890
01:31:47,853 --> 01:31:53,333
Speaker 20: Well, potentially yes. I get that it's subsidized as a

1891
01:31:54,452 --> 01:32:00,732
Speaker 20: diabetics and stuff like that, but I think once you

1892
01:32:00,893 --> 01:32:06,532
Speaker 20: get to sort of people like me, depending on what's

1893
01:32:06,652 --> 01:32:09,652
Speaker 20: going on, then year they should be some subsidies put

1894
01:32:09,692 --> 01:32:14,532
Speaker 20: in place. Not necessarily a whole lot, but you know,

1895
01:32:14,973 --> 01:32:16,852
Speaker 20: if it was one hundred bucks a months rather than

1896
01:32:16,933 --> 01:32:19,293
Speaker 20: five hundred bucks a month, I would make it more

1897
01:32:19,452 --> 01:32:26,612
Speaker 20: accessible for our growing obesity situation in New Zealand and

1898
01:32:26,853 --> 01:32:30,213
Speaker 20: give us another tool as well as diet and exercise

1899
01:32:30,293 --> 01:32:30,492
Speaker 20: to be.

1900
01:32:30,492 --> 01:32:31,053
Speaker 4: Able to use.

1901
01:32:31,572 --> 01:32:32,572
Speaker 2: Thank you for your course, Scott.

1902
01:32:32,853 --> 01:32:35,492
Speaker 3: Interesting point, and I know you know that argument around

1903
01:32:35,732 --> 01:32:38,293
Speaker 3: subsidizing those sort of drugs has been around some time

1904
01:32:39,372 --> 01:32:43,252
Speaker 3: and the downstream cost savings. If someone is really overweight

1905
01:32:43,532 --> 01:32:45,972
Speaker 3: and they are spending a lot of time in hospital

1906
01:32:46,133 --> 01:32:48,372
Speaker 3: and they are you know, for lack of a better word,

1907
01:32:48,412 --> 01:32:50,372
Speaker 3: clogging up the health system, I can understand that.

1908
01:32:51,173 --> 01:32:53,572
Speaker 2: Could I get a rebate because I've lost weight by

1909
01:32:53,933 --> 01:32:54,532
Speaker 2: running a lot?

1910
01:32:54,692 --> 01:32:57,492
Speaker 3: Yep, we can switt you out with it. We'll do

1911
01:32:57,572 --> 01:32:59,652
Speaker 3: the calculations of figure out how much money are right.

1912
01:32:59,692 --> 01:33:01,772
Speaker 3: We're going to carry this on. It is twenty six

1913
01:33:01,893 --> 01:33:03,572
Speaker 3: past three or one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1914
01:33:03,572 --> 01:33:04,293
Speaker 3: a number to call.

1915
01:33:08,412 --> 01:33:11,812
Speaker 1: Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh, eight hundred eighty

1916
01:33:11,893 --> 01:33:13,692
Speaker 1: ten eighty on used talk ZV.

1917
01:33:14,013 --> 01:33:16,412
Speaker 3: Afternoon twenty eight past three. So we're talking about we

1918
01:33:16,612 --> 01:33:19,492
Speaker 3: go V and six sex Ender, and there's a few

1919
01:33:19,532 --> 01:33:21,933
Speaker 3: other of these weight loss drugs that a lot of

1920
01:33:22,173 --> 01:33:24,652
Speaker 3: people are using at the moment. So many techs come

1921
01:33:24,732 --> 01:33:27,772
Speaker 3: through this one. Giddy guys, friggin bizarre to hear all

1922
01:33:27,812 --> 01:33:30,572
Speaker 3: these people stating that a drug enabled them to eat healthy,

1923
01:33:30,853 --> 01:33:33,532
Speaker 3: cure themselves of diabetes, and lose weight. We really have

1924
01:33:33,692 --> 01:33:36,452
Speaker 3: evolved into dumb humans. We know how to do it,

1925
01:33:36,572 --> 01:33:40,013
Speaker 3: but obviously our food chain, decades of crap preserved has

1926
01:33:40,053 --> 01:33:43,532
Speaker 3: added and habits have redialed our brains. What I'm hearing

1927
01:33:43,652 --> 01:33:48,133
Speaker 3: leaves me berefed. For society, those that can afford can

1928
01:33:48,293 --> 01:33:51,253
Speaker 3: have it. Those that can't have to practice body positivity.

1929
01:33:51,333 --> 01:33:52,892
Speaker 3: Cheep as team, how have we got here?

1930
01:33:53,492 --> 01:33:56,932
Speaker 2: Well, we are beings that are evolved for scarcity, living

1931
01:33:57,013 --> 01:33:59,052
Speaker 2: in a time of abundance and that's really the problem,

1932
01:33:59,093 --> 01:34:01,652
Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah, So all the things that make us

1933
01:34:02,293 --> 01:34:04,732
Speaker 2: put on weight are the things that we crave the most.

1934
01:34:04,933 --> 01:34:09,253
Speaker 2: Because when we were walking around the ancient humans and

1935
01:34:09,293 --> 01:34:12,412
Speaker 2: they came across a bunch of sweet things, the body said,

1936
01:34:12,492 --> 01:34:14,892
Speaker 2: you eat quickly because you won't come across these. Again

1937
01:34:15,093 --> 01:34:17,732
Speaker 2: needed those calories, and we needed fat, and we had

1938
01:34:17,933 --> 01:34:22,213
Speaker 2: a calorie deficit, generally speaking, was just just what we experienced.

1939
01:34:23,093 --> 01:34:26,852
Speaker 2: So we get raving us and now you know, you

1940
01:34:26,973 --> 01:34:28,772
Speaker 2: just look at what they put in food to just

1941
01:34:28,812 --> 01:34:30,772
Speaker 2: get us going. They put fat and sugar in there,

1942
01:34:31,293 --> 01:34:34,133
Speaker 2: and the fruitcost oh my god, yes, sirup and all

1943
01:34:34,133 --> 01:34:37,052
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff just fires up those ancient instincts

1944
01:34:37,372 --> 01:34:42,293
Speaker 2: and we go and then we get fat.

1945
01:34:42,412 --> 01:34:43,973
Speaker 3: Now I don't even have to leave my car to

1946
01:34:44,013 --> 01:34:45,812
Speaker 3: get Kent. Thank you, Fried Chicken. It's that easy.

1947
01:34:47,333 --> 01:34:50,173
Speaker 2: No government subsidy for pricks that can't stop eatings? Is

1948
01:34:50,173 --> 01:34:53,572
Speaker 2: this Texter heavy? All right, Doug, Welcome to the show.

1949
01:34:54,933 --> 01:34:58,492
Speaker 13: Here go, Hi, guys. I'm just riging about My son

1950
01:34:59,253 --> 01:35:02,093
Speaker 13: started we go V and he started way back on

1951
01:35:02,253 --> 01:35:06,133
Speaker 13: the on the eighteenth of July of this year and

1952
01:35:07,213 --> 01:35:13,653
Speaker 13: up to the fourth of the wits to tenth of September,

1953
01:35:14,133 --> 01:35:18,452
Speaker 13: he had lost seven point eight kilograms. Now he started,

1954
01:35:18,492 --> 01:35:20,652
Speaker 13: of course at the two fifty. And the great thing

1955
01:35:20,692 --> 01:35:23,972
Speaker 13: about that week everything for him is that it's only

1956
01:35:24,133 --> 01:35:28,532
Speaker 13: one jab per week. It's some of the other ones

1957
01:35:28,652 --> 01:35:31,812
Speaker 13: are a sort of a jabb a day, but he

1958
01:35:31,973 --> 01:35:34,253
Speaker 13: only has to do one jab a week, and then

1959
01:35:34,253 --> 01:35:37,772
Speaker 13: at the end of that end of the month cycle

1960
01:35:38,253 --> 01:35:42,213
Speaker 13: he goes up another. He's on like point one at

1961
01:35:42,253 --> 01:35:45,572
Speaker 13: one point zero at the moment milligram, and he started

1962
01:35:45,572 --> 01:35:50,492
Speaker 13: off at a point two five and far aside effects,

1963
01:35:51,812 --> 01:35:56,732
Speaker 13: he can feel a little nauseous, but he says it's

1964
01:35:56,812 --> 01:36:00,132
Speaker 13: not a big problem at all, doesn't stop him doing anything.

1965
01:36:01,532 --> 01:36:05,452
Speaker 13: But what he is getting to grips with is that

1966
01:36:06,973 --> 01:36:10,933
Speaker 13: he has a tea has tea year with me sometimes

1967
01:36:11,572 --> 01:36:16,052
Speaker 13: and he puts stuff on his plate and he can't

1968
01:36:16,093 --> 01:36:18,732
Speaker 13: finish it. And that's the thing that sort of keeps

1969
01:36:18,772 --> 01:36:22,933
Speaker 13: surprising him, is like his eyes have not come to

1970
01:36:23,093 --> 01:36:27,893
Speaker 13: match his stomach yet, and so he eats sometimes just

1971
01:36:28,013 --> 01:36:30,972
Speaker 13: one meal a day, and sometimes you'll eat a lunch,

1972
01:36:31,853 --> 01:36:37,372
Speaker 13: but generally speaking, is just a downward trend. And he's

1973
01:36:37,652 --> 01:36:41,652
Speaker 13: thinking of going. Yeah, like I said, he started in July,

1974
01:36:42,572 --> 01:36:46,052
Speaker 13: going down to Christmas and seeing what his weight loss

1975
01:36:46,093 --> 01:36:47,852
Speaker 13: will be like at that point.

1976
01:36:48,213 --> 01:36:50,092
Speaker 2: How should not this stake? But when you get the injection,

1977
01:36:50,173 --> 01:36:51,372
Speaker 2: do you inject yourself or do you have to go

1978
01:36:51,452 --> 01:36:52,772
Speaker 2: to the doctor every week for the injection?

1979
01:36:53,772 --> 01:36:56,293
Speaker 13: No, no, no, he just does himself. And the doc said,

1980
01:36:56,492 --> 01:36:58,852
Speaker 13: like the previous caller said, he can do it in

1981
01:36:58,933 --> 01:37:02,532
Speaker 13: your stomach or your thigh. So he tried the three

1982
01:37:02,652 --> 01:37:08,412
Speaker 13: places over three weeks and found the thigh was the

1983
01:37:08,492 --> 01:37:11,532
Speaker 13: least painful of jabs.

1984
01:37:12,692 --> 01:37:14,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you don't you don't need to have a

1985
01:37:14,652 --> 01:37:17,013
Speaker 3: certain point. It's just anywhere in those those parts of

1986
01:37:17,013 --> 01:37:17,933
Speaker 3: the body and you're good to go.

1987
01:37:19,812 --> 01:37:21,692
Speaker 13: That's right. He just did it in his upper arm

1988
01:37:21,812 --> 01:37:27,972
Speaker 13: like where you might get a flu injection, and somewhere

1989
01:37:28,013 --> 01:37:31,412
Speaker 13: around his belly button the area. He tried that, and

1990
01:37:31,652 --> 01:37:35,532
Speaker 13: then on the next week he tried his fly and

1991
01:37:35,652 --> 01:37:37,133
Speaker 13: that was that was the best.

1992
01:37:37,452 --> 01:37:37,652
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1993
01:37:37,973 --> 01:37:39,772
Speaker 3: I mean, it's scarce the hell out of me, to

1994
01:37:39,772 --> 01:37:42,692
Speaker 3: be honest, injecting myself with anything. I don't know if

1995
01:37:42,692 --> 01:37:43,973
Speaker 3: I could do it, I'd have to pay someone to

1996
01:37:44,013 --> 01:37:44,412
Speaker 3: do it for me.

1997
01:37:45,293 --> 01:37:47,612
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you for cool, Doug. Interesting, Yeah, thank you

1998
01:37:47,692 --> 01:37:48,013
Speaker 2: very much.

1999
01:37:48,053 --> 01:37:50,333
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

2000
01:37:50,372 --> 01:37:53,133
Speaker 3: to call. We've had so many calls and texts on this.

2001
01:37:53,253 --> 01:37:54,732
Speaker 3: We are going to carry it on, so we'd love

2002
01:37:54,772 --> 01:37:57,612
Speaker 3: to hear your story. We go V six ender. If

2003
01:37:57,652 --> 01:37:58,932
Speaker 3: you're on it, how's it going?

2004
01:37:59,133 --> 01:38:01,412
Speaker 2: Surely just not eating chips and surfing would do the

2005
01:38:01,452 --> 01:38:01,932
Speaker 2: same thing.

2006
01:38:02,973 --> 01:38:04,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe times.

2007
01:38:06,452 --> 01:38:09,972
Speaker 9: You talk'd The headline blue bubble taxis there's no trouble

2008
01:38:10,053 --> 01:38:12,732
Speaker 9: with a blue bubble. New Zealanders will no longer be

2009
01:38:12,812 --> 01:38:15,532
Speaker 9: able to look to adopt children from overseas and bring

2010
01:38:15,612 --> 01:38:19,333
Speaker 9: them home from this week, the government's adoption Amendment bills

2011
01:38:19,372 --> 01:38:22,892
Speaker 9: been introduced to under urgency a union's warning over one

2012
01:38:22,933 --> 01:38:26,053
Speaker 9: hundred jobs are on the line in South Waikato's Takaroa

2013
01:38:26,253 --> 01:38:29,412
Speaker 9: with the potential closure of a playwood factory. It too,

2014
01:38:29,532 --> 01:38:32,333
Speaker 9: says Carter hold Harvey's planning to shut the site earlier

2015
01:38:32,492 --> 01:38:35,492
Speaker 9: this Later this year, the man accused of murdering right

2016
01:38:35,572 --> 01:38:38,973
Speaker 9: wing activist Charlie Kirk allegedly sent him a text with

2017
01:38:39,093 --> 01:38:42,932
Speaker 9: his intentions to kill him prior to doing so. Twenty

2018
01:38:42,973 --> 01:38:45,612
Speaker 9: two year old Tyler Robinson is expected to be formally

2019
01:38:45,732 --> 01:38:49,492
Speaker 9: charged tomorrow for Kirk's death at a university campus in Utah,

2020
01:38:50,372 --> 01:38:52,612
Speaker 9: and Amporter has been hit with one hundred and forty

2021
01:38:52,732 --> 01:38:56,173
Speaker 9: thousand dollar fine after selling small toy cars that young

2022
01:38:56,293 --> 01:38:59,652
Speaker 9: children could choke on. The developer behind a proposal to

2023
01:38:59,692 --> 01:39:02,492
Speaker 9: build more than twelve hundred homes in Upper Udewa has

2024
01:39:02,572 --> 01:39:06,572
Speaker 9: withdrawn its fast track proposal. Business Desk reports a expert

2025
01:39:06,652 --> 01:39:11,452
Speaker 9: panel refused resource consent because of infrastructure constraints. Plus, the

2026
01:39:11,492 --> 01:39:15,492
Speaker 9: government announces twenty new steps to address aviation skills crisis

2027
01:39:15,772 --> 01:39:16,692
Speaker 9: and grow the sector.

2028
01:39:16,893 --> 01:39:18,732
Speaker 2: Find out more at enz Herald Premium.

2029
01:39:18,893 --> 01:39:20,133
Speaker 1: Now back to Mason Tyler.

2030
01:39:20,253 --> 01:39:22,452
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy. So we're talking about we're

2031
01:39:22,532 --> 01:39:27,293
Speaker 3: gov seeks inder, but also ozimpak was the big wonder

2032
01:39:27,412 --> 01:39:31,293
Speaker 3: when it was first trialed in America. Can you still

2033
01:39:31,333 --> 01:39:34,293
Speaker 3: get access to ozempic and New Zealand. I'm going to

2034
01:39:34,333 --> 01:39:36,532
Speaker 3: have to look that up because not too many people

2035
01:39:36,572 --> 01:39:39,293
Speaker 3: are actually taking ozempic. A lot of people taking were

2036
01:39:39,333 --> 01:39:40,293
Speaker 3: GOVI and others.

2037
01:39:40,452 --> 01:39:40,572
Speaker 4: Well.

2038
01:39:40,772 --> 01:39:43,412
Speaker 2: Zimpic is an approved prescription medication for tweeting type two

2039
01:39:43,492 --> 01:39:47,612
Speaker 2: diabetes in New Zealand. As related to the drug wigov Yeah,

2040
01:39:48,492 --> 01:39:52,052
Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean all the talk was like a zimpac,

2041
01:39:52,173 --> 01:39:54,492
Speaker 2: wasn't that it was? Yeah, in the zimpic face. Yeah,

2042
01:39:55,333 --> 01:39:56,613
Speaker 2: and Hollywood stars.

2043
01:39:56,333 --> 01:39:59,293
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, Oprah loved it. Yeah, she was all

2044
01:39:59,333 --> 01:40:01,173
Speaker 3: about the Ozmpic. But all we hear about now is

2045
01:40:01,253 --> 01:40:03,812
Speaker 3: were GOVI Yeah, oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

2046
01:40:03,933 --> 01:40:04,972
Speaker 3: is the number to call.

2047
01:40:06,133 --> 01:40:08,293
Speaker 2: There is a case for public funding weight loss drugs,

2048
01:40:08,333 --> 01:40:11,173
Speaker 2: cardiov escalar disease and diabetes places and enormous burden on

2049
01:40:11,213 --> 01:40:14,213
Speaker 2: our health system. If Farmac publicly funded these meds, it

2050
01:40:14,213 --> 01:40:16,452
Speaker 2: would cost the taxpayer about fifty percent of the retail

2051
01:40:16,492 --> 01:40:18,772
Speaker 2: price and keep many people out of the hospitals, off

2052
01:40:18,853 --> 01:40:22,572
Speaker 2: dialysis and working in the economy. Yeah, I mean just

2053
01:40:22,652 --> 01:40:25,452
Speaker 2: things that we just I get that and you can

2054
01:40:25,532 --> 01:40:27,372
Speaker 2: do that math on it. But then we just have

2055
01:40:27,532 --> 01:40:30,812
Speaker 2: to you know, we have to sort out everyone's problems.

2056
01:40:31,053 --> 01:40:31,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

2057
01:40:31,812 --> 01:40:34,612
Speaker 2: And there is an argument that your health is your issue.

2058
01:40:34,692 --> 01:40:37,852
Speaker 2: You're in partnership with with the health system, but it's

2059
01:40:37,893 --> 01:40:44,212
Speaker 2: not the it's not the government or the general populace

2060
01:40:44,253 --> 01:40:48,253
Speaker 2: and the taxpayers of New Zealand to look after your health.

2061
01:40:48,893 --> 01:40:50,333
Speaker 3: That's the danger, right, And you're.

2062
01:40:50,253 --> 01:40:52,173
Speaker 2: And you go through I mean the best you really

2063
01:40:52,213 --> 01:40:55,852
Speaker 2: should ask for as a partnership to sort out your health.

2064
01:40:57,692 --> 01:41:00,293
Speaker 2: You're not owned good health. Yeah, you know you you

2065
01:41:01,612 --> 01:41:03,852
Speaker 2: you need to work to good health. You need to

2066
01:41:03,933 --> 01:41:05,732
Speaker 2: you need to earn that good health right that that

2067
01:41:05,772 --> 01:41:07,692
Speaker 2: should be your that should be the thing that you're

2068
01:41:07,732 --> 01:41:10,852
Speaker 2: focused on your life. It's not everyone else's fault. If

2069
01:41:10,893 --> 01:41:12,852
Speaker 2: you have bad health and I get you. You could

2070
01:41:12,893 --> 01:41:14,412
Speaker 2: do the math and say, well, we're helping all these

2071
01:41:14,412 --> 01:41:16,293
Speaker 2: people across everything, bl bah bah blah blah blah bah

2072
01:41:16,293 --> 01:41:19,492
Speaker 2: saved money in the end. But the mentality of that

2073
01:41:19,652 --> 01:41:20,333
Speaker 2: is somehow wrong.

2074
01:41:20,772 --> 01:41:23,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there's the danger of everybody saying I

2075
01:41:23,293 --> 01:41:24,893
Speaker 3: can eat what I like and do what I like,

2076
01:41:25,053 --> 01:41:27,492
Speaker 3: but there's this miracle drug that I can get on

2077
01:41:27,572 --> 01:41:29,692
Speaker 3: behalf of the taxpayer. That is going to make me

2078
01:41:29,772 --> 01:41:32,253
Speaker 3: think again, that's the danger because I absolutely understand that

2079
01:41:32,372 --> 01:41:35,772
Speaker 3: argument one hundred percent. But changing that mentality when people

2080
01:41:35,893 --> 01:41:38,173
Speaker 3: think there's miracle drugs out there funded by all of

2081
01:41:38,253 --> 01:41:40,652
Speaker 3: us that's going to sort you out, that's a dangerous

2082
01:41:40,652 --> 01:41:41,013
Speaker 3: place to be.

2083
01:41:41,213 --> 01:41:42,932
Speaker 2: So go loosen at the last minute, get it sorted

2084
01:41:42,973 --> 01:41:46,532
Speaker 2: out by the by you know, other people paying for it. Yeah,

2085
01:41:46,692 --> 01:41:50,492
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem necessarily like the kind of attitude that

2086
01:41:50,692 --> 01:41:55,452
Speaker 2: leads to people making the right decisions for themselves in life,

2087
01:41:55,772 --> 01:41:58,973
Speaker 2: and there's always unforeseen circumstances with these kind of things that.

2088
01:41:59,612 --> 01:42:00,532
Speaker 1: Are meant to do well.

2089
01:42:00,732 --> 01:42:05,012
Speaker 2: Yep, and you know a well meaning Bruce welcome the show.

2090
01:42:06,253 --> 01:42:07,052
Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks guys.

2091
01:42:07,133 --> 01:42:08,652
Speaker 19: It's an interesting compic station.

2092
01:42:10,053 --> 01:42:11,973
Speaker 10: I had a similar journey to a lot of the

2093
01:42:12,053 --> 01:42:14,253
Speaker 10: people that I've been listening to the Yo yo weight

2094
01:42:14,372 --> 01:42:17,213
Speaker 10: loss diet and this sort of thing, and I actually

2095
01:42:17,333 --> 01:42:19,612
Speaker 10: took the step of getting bariactric surgery.

2096
01:42:19,692 --> 01:42:20,132
Speaker 16: I had.

2097
01:42:21,492 --> 01:42:24,932
Speaker 10: Eighty percent of my stomach removed, and I was about

2098
01:42:25,293 --> 01:42:26,812
Speaker 10: I was sort of in the sick. I was in

2099
01:42:26,893 --> 01:42:29,532
Speaker 10: the sixties at the time. I'd had a hip replaced

2100
01:42:29,572 --> 01:42:33,452
Speaker 10: and a knee replaced. I'd had a very active sports life,

2101
01:42:33,532 --> 01:42:36,013
Speaker 10: and in my day, we didn't rehab joints the way

2102
01:42:36,093 --> 01:42:40,173
Speaker 10: they did that they do today with ice and all

2103
01:42:40,253 --> 01:42:42,333
Speaker 10: the other things. We just had a bit of deep

2104
01:42:42,372 --> 01:42:45,253
Speaker 10: even pete and the beer. So I read that with

2105
01:42:45,412 --> 01:42:50,572
Speaker 10: samasios right in my joint. And as I became less active,

2106
01:42:50,572 --> 01:42:52,372
Speaker 10: as I got older, I was putting on the weight

2107
01:42:52,452 --> 01:42:55,452
Speaker 10: and I was about one hundred and fifteen kilos and

2108
01:42:55,572 --> 01:42:59,133
Speaker 10: my joints, my skeleton wasn't going to handle it. So

2109
01:42:59,532 --> 01:43:01,893
Speaker 10: I decided to bite the bullet and I had bariactric

2110
01:43:01,973 --> 01:43:04,612
Speaker 10: surgery and in that I had eighty percent of my

2111
01:43:04,692 --> 01:43:07,572
Speaker 10: stomach taken out. And what they also take out is

2112
01:43:07,692 --> 01:43:10,772
Speaker 10: the part of your stomach at the top that's a gland.

2113
01:43:10,893 --> 01:43:14,772
Speaker 10: I think that tells you when your stomach is full. Now,

2114
01:43:14,853 --> 01:43:18,612
Speaker 10: your stomach is an elastic band. It's just an elastic ball,

2115
01:43:19,293 --> 01:43:21,772
Speaker 10: and you can shrink it or you can expand it.

2116
01:43:21,893 --> 01:43:25,093
Speaker 10: But whatever you do through your life, you're gonna shrink

2117
01:43:25,133 --> 01:43:27,652
Speaker 10: it if you get a stomach flu Like some women

2118
01:43:27,772 --> 01:43:30,612
Speaker 10: used to say, I'm only one stomach flew away from

2119
01:43:30,692 --> 01:43:37,253
Speaker 10: my goal weight, okay, And people can shrink their stomach,

2120
01:43:37,452 --> 01:43:40,772
Speaker 10: but as soon as anything, they can expand again. And

2121
01:43:40,853 --> 01:43:41,892
Speaker 10: that's when you get.

2122
01:43:41,772 --> 01:43:42,612
Speaker 18: The Yo yo diet.

2123
01:43:43,213 --> 01:43:47,892
Speaker 10: I'd been there, done that, and I straight together twenty

2124
01:43:47,973 --> 01:43:50,692
Speaker 10: four K. I did a lot of research on it.

2125
01:43:51,812 --> 01:43:54,812
Speaker 10: And my weight now is about I've gone from one

2126
01:43:54,893 --> 01:43:58,133
Speaker 10: hundred and one hundred and seventeen when I went in

2127
01:43:58,213 --> 01:44:02,892
Speaker 10: for surgery, I'm eighty five. My weight now fluctuates between

2128
01:44:03,013 --> 01:44:06,293
Speaker 10: eighty three and eighty seven. And it was very interesting

2129
01:44:06,372 --> 01:44:10,293
Speaker 10: what another caller was saying about food, Like you go

2130
01:44:10,412 --> 01:44:12,412
Speaker 10: into a shop and you look at all these lovely

2131
01:44:12,492 --> 01:44:14,692
Speaker 10: apple squares and all the food you love to eat,

2132
01:44:14,893 --> 01:44:18,173
Speaker 10: and you buy one, you take it away, you have

2133
01:44:18,333 --> 01:44:22,093
Speaker 10: one bite of it, and your body almost rejects it

2134
01:44:23,053 --> 01:44:25,973
Speaker 10: because after a while, your stomach gets so used to

2135
01:44:26,053 --> 01:44:31,572
Speaker 10: having protein and high quality food, but you can't eat carbohydrates.

2136
01:44:32,293 --> 01:44:37,173
Speaker 10: You find your diet becomes very much chicken, nuts, dairy,

2137
01:44:38,133 --> 01:44:43,412
Speaker 10: the high protein foods. And what the gentleman was saying

2138
01:44:43,492 --> 01:44:47,452
Speaker 10: before was interesting because actually, once you get on that healthy,

2139
01:44:47,732 --> 01:44:52,293
Speaker 10: healthy eating treadmill, the more of those healthy foods you

2140
01:44:52,372 --> 01:44:56,612
Speaker 10: seem to eat, the more weight you lose. And it's

2141
01:44:56,692 --> 01:44:59,333
Speaker 10: quite an interesting phenomenon if you can get to that point.

2142
01:44:59,412 --> 01:45:00,412
Speaker 4: I never thought I would.

2143
01:45:01,013 --> 01:45:05,053
Speaker 10: I never thought i'd be what I am now, only

2144
01:45:05,133 --> 01:45:07,572
Speaker 10: because I had that bariatric surgery and its.

2145
01:45:08,333 --> 01:45:11,412
Speaker 2: It happenspruce with people that because there is examples where

2146
01:45:11,452 --> 01:45:14,812
Speaker 2: people get that surgery and then somehow they eat through

2147
01:45:14,893 --> 01:45:17,852
Speaker 2: it and they have to get it again. You know

2148
01:45:17,933 --> 01:45:20,772
Speaker 2: what's happening there those people that just don't have that

2149
01:45:21,013 --> 01:45:23,093
Speaker 2: same reaction to food that you did.

2150
01:45:24,293 --> 01:45:29,132
Speaker 10: It's very hard to do because your stomach, your stomach's

2151
01:45:29,213 --> 01:45:32,372
Speaker 10: not there, and when when you've got a full stomach,

2152
01:45:32,492 --> 01:45:36,013
Speaker 10: you can expand it and contract it. But when you've

2153
01:45:36,013 --> 01:45:37,852
Speaker 10: got such a small when you've got only got twenty

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Speaker 10: percent of your stomach left, there's only so you can

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Speaker 10: only stretch it so far. So from my experience, I

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Speaker 10: did read about that and I thought, yeah, you can

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Speaker 10: get on that. It's probably if you consume excess alcohol

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Speaker 10: and a lot of sugary foods. But after a while,

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Speaker 10: once you've been doing it, your body rejects those foods

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Speaker 10: because somehow it sensors. Your body picks up what it needs,

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Speaker 10: and like if you eat an apple where it'll reject it,

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Speaker 10: but if you eat a chicken drumstick it'll It's quite

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01:46:13,053 --> 01:46:16,492
Speaker 10: a strange thing. A Once you get that gland removed

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Speaker 10: from the top of your stomach, food doesn't become a pleasure.

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Speaker 10: It becomes an obligation. But it's a good obligation because

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Speaker 10: you're constantly thinking about what you're putting in your body.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, you've lost the pleasure of eating.

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Speaker 3: So did you pay for ecrif I've made Yeah, did

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Speaker 3: you pay for it yourself, Bruce, or you've got it subsidized?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yes I did, Yes I do?

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01:46:35,933 --> 01:46:36,772
Speaker 3: And how much did it cost?

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Speaker 10: Twenty four thousand?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 14: A lot of money, Marta, it was, but I look

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Speaker 14: at it.

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Speaker 10: You know, I don't need any more joints replace my

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01:46:46,692 --> 01:46:50,333
Speaker 10: osteoarthritis to stop. And I look at the people around me,

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Speaker 10: and I think, you know, if we could subsidize this,

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Speaker 10: the downstream effect of taking twenty thirty forty kilos of

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Speaker 10: a lot of people would be joint replacements. But the

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01:47:01,053 --> 01:47:05,852
Speaker 10: down flow benefits of such a proactive thing, you know,

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Speaker 10: I've often thought that in years to come, this will

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Speaker 10: be probably the most elective surgery of the older generation

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Speaker 10: that you can have as it becomes more accepted, Like

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Speaker 10: we've had politicians that have had it that look marvelous

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Speaker 10: in their six business seventies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what would you say to people like if it

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Speaker 2: was funders And some of it is funded obviously, the surgery,

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Speaker 2: but then you've got people that have, you know, watched

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Speaker 2: what they eat and exercise their life to the point

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Speaker 2: where they haven't needed it, and you could argue that

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Speaker 2: they're subsidizing people that haven't made the same you know,

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Speaker 2: decisions in life. And how would you squear that?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think I think you you know, the subsidy

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01:47:47,652 --> 01:47:50,133
Speaker 10: thing is is you know, it's down the road, but

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01:47:50,732 --> 01:47:52,852
Speaker 10: as far as the hero and now goes in a

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01:47:52,973 --> 01:48:00,213
Speaker 10: personal choice about an individual well being and longevity. To

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Speaker 10: be able to control your weight loss physically by actually

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01:48:03,333 --> 01:48:06,812
Speaker 10: having this thing that causes all the problems eighty percent

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Speaker 10: of it removed, you still have great nutrition, but you're

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01:48:10,933 --> 01:48:14,012
Speaker 10: very selective and you don't have room for the rubbish.

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01:48:14,133 --> 01:48:17,732
Speaker 10: So if you're talking about funding, forget that for now.

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01:48:17,853 --> 01:48:20,973
Speaker 10: But I would suggest anyone that is thinking about it

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01:48:21,452 --> 01:48:24,772
Speaker 10: research it, go into it, talk to people that have

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01:48:24,893 --> 01:48:29,732
Speaker 10: had it, like I did beforehand, and you'll find the

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01:48:29,812 --> 01:48:33,452
Speaker 10: benefits are very good. But a gentleman was saying he's

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01:48:33,452 --> 01:48:36,652
Speaker 10: going to try it. There's no trying it. Once you

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Speaker 10: have it done, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for your call, Bruce, Yep. Sounds like it

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01:48:40,853 --> 01:48:42,852
Speaker 2: worked out very well for you. So what was the situation,

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01:48:43,013 --> 01:48:44,652
Speaker 2: David LONGI he had it, he blew out. He was

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01:48:44,692 --> 01:48:46,812
Speaker 2: like about one hundred and eighty hundred and seventy kg's

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01:48:46,893 --> 01:48:48,372
Speaker 2: wasn't he and any had the surgery?

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01:48:48,412 --> 01:48:48,612
Speaker 4: Did he?

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01:48:49,133 --> 01:48:50,893
Speaker 2: I thought that he blew out again after he'd had it,

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01:48:50,973 --> 01:48:51,972
Speaker 2: But I could be wrong.

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01:48:52,013 --> 01:48:53,612
Speaker 3: Think you're right, but we'll look into that. It is

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01:48:53,812 --> 01:48:55,532
Speaker 3: thirteen to four back in a mow.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

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Speaker 1: on Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be it is eleven to form. We've been talking

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Speaker 3: about where Govie and six in or another wait on

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01:49:08,933 --> 01:49:10,972
Speaker 3: drug Steve, how are you this afternoon?

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01:49:11,893 --> 01:49:15,293
Speaker 19: Ye're not too bad. Look, my story is I started

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01:49:15,412 --> 01:49:21,253
Speaker 19: seven weeks ago on a product called Contrave Contrave Contrave

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01:49:21,452 --> 01:49:25,093
Speaker 19: c O n t R a vee and I got

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Speaker 19: to one hundred and twenty seven Kilo's got a bit

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01:49:27,213 --> 01:49:29,532
Speaker 19: of a fright watching it real quick, oh over the

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01:49:29,612 --> 01:49:32,572
Speaker 19: last five six months. And I went to the doctors

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01:49:32,692 --> 01:49:35,892
Speaker 19: and he put me on the drug Contrary and it's

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Speaker 19: two hundred and sixty dollars about every five or six weeks.

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01:49:39,333 --> 01:49:42,213
Speaker 2: And you don't inject it.

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01:49:42,612 --> 01:49:44,133
Speaker 1: Yea, it's a pill, right, it's a pill.

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01:49:44,893 --> 01:49:45,093
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:49:45,133 --> 01:49:47,492
Speaker 19: So the first the first week, you take one pill

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01:49:48,013 --> 01:49:50,093
Speaker 19: in the morning, The second week you take one pill

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01:49:50,093 --> 01:49:52,492
Speaker 19: in the morning, one at night. Third week you take

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01:49:52,532 --> 01:49:54,692
Speaker 19: two pills in the morning, one at night. And fourth

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Speaker 19: week you take two pills of morning, two at night.

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01:49:56,492 --> 01:49:58,253
Speaker 19: And that's an exim in dose. And you keep going

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01:49:58,333 --> 01:49:59,093
Speaker 19: on that all the time.

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01:49:59,213 --> 01:49:59,892
Speaker 2: And how's it working.

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01:49:59,933 --> 01:50:03,492
Speaker 19: What happened for me, well, the first month, well five

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01:50:03,572 --> 01:50:08,293
Speaker 19: weeks I lost king kg's wow. And for the low

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01:50:08,412 --> 01:50:11,013
Speaker 19: that's two weeks. I've lost one cage each week. Now

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01:50:11,173 --> 01:50:14,372
Speaker 19: it's slowed down a lot more now. But I backed

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01:50:14,412 --> 01:50:18,292
Speaker 19: my dosage off because I had, as you say, nausea vomiting.

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01:50:18,692 --> 01:50:22,652
Speaker 19: And there's a lot of foods you can't eat, like

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Speaker 19: you can't have too many eggs, you can't have fatty food,

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01:50:26,612 --> 01:50:29,372
Speaker 19: too much sugar. I can't eat frugers anymore. I used

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01:50:29,412 --> 01:50:31,053
Speaker 19: to love frudres. I'd had three.

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01:50:32,933 --> 01:50:33,612
Speaker 3: They're good things.

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01:50:33,853 --> 01:50:36,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, And is this something you're going to stay on

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Speaker 2: for the long term or do you? Is it got

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Speaker 2: a period of time?

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Speaker 19: You go on it for six months and you can

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01:50:43,973 --> 01:50:46,612
Speaker 19: go for a year. But they reckon you can lose

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01:50:46,732 --> 01:50:50,053
Speaker 19: forty five one hundred pounds, which is about forty three

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01:50:50,133 --> 01:50:52,892
Speaker 19: forty four CAGs over about six months.

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Speaker 13: To a year.

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01:50:53,572 --> 01:50:57,492
Speaker 3: Right, and you've got a nutrition plan alongside that medication?

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01:50:57,612 --> 01:50:57,973
Speaker 13: Is that right?

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01:50:58,933 --> 01:51:02,213
Speaker 19: No, I've just been cutting back on all my foods.

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01:51:03,173 --> 01:51:04,692
Speaker 19: I've lost a lot of desire for a lot of

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01:51:04,732 --> 01:51:08,253
Speaker 19: food now, and I can't eat fruders. They make me.

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01:51:09,772 --> 01:51:12,893
Speaker 19: I just repulse them. Now it's incredible. Hell, such a

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01:51:13,013 --> 01:51:19,772
Speaker 19: change actually happen. So I basically have nuts, a lot

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01:51:19,853 --> 01:51:26,852
Speaker 19: of fruits now, bananas, Kiwi fruit, grapefruit, lemons, yeah, and

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01:51:27,333 --> 01:51:28,532
Speaker 19: fish and chicken.

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Speaker 2: Wow healthy.

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01:51:29,732 --> 01:51:30,812
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds pretty good there.

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01:51:30,973 --> 01:51:33,173
Speaker 2: Well, all the best with that, Steve. And you know,

2274
01:51:33,293 --> 01:51:35,013
Speaker 2: if if you're interested in these kind of things you need,

2275
01:51:35,093 --> 01:51:36,692
Speaker 2: you've got obviously got to talk to your doctor and

2276
01:51:37,053 --> 01:51:39,652
Speaker 2: seek professional advice around all the stuff. If you want

2277
01:51:39,692 --> 01:51:44,253
Speaker 2: to lose weight with one of these drugs injections, and

2278
01:51:44,853 --> 01:51:46,492
Speaker 2: obviously you have to talk to a doctor before you

2279
01:51:46,532 --> 01:51:51,253
Speaker 2: get your stomach stapled. Yeah, yeah, staple your stomach at home.

2280
01:51:51,732 --> 01:51:52,972
Speaker 2: People do not do that at home.

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01:51:53,053 --> 01:51:55,933
Speaker 3: Your great advice, Yeah, great advice. You needed to say that,

2282
01:51:56,412 --> 01:51:59,053
Speaker 3: no home surgery. That is the PSA you needed to hear.

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01:51:59,973 --> 01:52:03,053
Speaker 3: I try to try back in the mow. It is

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01:52:03,532 --> 01:52:04,492
Speaker 3: eight to four.

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01:52:04,772 --> 01:52:05,492
Speaker 2: Broke the staple.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, big issues, the trends and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Excuse talks it be

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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 3: It be it is five to four.

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Speaker 2: I just getting a lot of text on the people

2291
01:52:21,812 --> 01:52:23,532
Speaker 2: saying that we should fund it. And look, I can

2292
01:52:23,572 --> 01:52:25,772
Speaker 2: see the argument for it, but the health system is

2293
01:52:25,812 --> 01:52:29,173
Speaker 2: something you can work with. But everyone's health is their

2294
01:52:29,213 --> 01:52:32,333
Speaker 2: own project, right, so right across your life, your project

2295
01:52:32,412 --> 01:52:34,972
Speaker 2: is to stay as healthy as you can for yourself,

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01:52:35,452 --> 01:52:38,333
Speaker 2: your family, and your community and your country.

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01:52:38,492 --> 01:52:39,772
Speaker 1: Right yep, I agree, So.

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Speaker 2: You know we can we can hand out these you know,

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01:52:43,293 --> 01:52:46,452
Speaker 2: rescues at the end, but no one's going to be

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01:52:46,452 --> 01:52:48,812
Speaker 2: able to save you from yourself completely anyway. Thank you

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01:52:48,853 --> 01:52:50,612
Speaker 2: so much for listening to the show. Everyone, It's been

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Speaker 2: a great chat. Been awesome to talking to such a

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01:52:53,812 --> 01:52:55,973
Speaker 2: bunch of great New Zealanders. The pod will be up

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01:52:56,612 --> 01:52:58,933
Speaker 2: soon if you've missed anything. The powerful Hither Twop of

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Speaker 2: c Ellen is up next. But right now, Tyler, my

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01:53:02,692 --> 01:53:04,812
Speaker 2: good friend, tell me why am I playing the song.

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01:53:05,973 --> 01:53:09,173
Speaker 3: Tears for Fears? Everybody wants to rule the world because

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01:53:09,213 --> 01:53:11,572
Speaker 3: we had some great chat about local body politics and

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01:53:11,612 --> 01:53:13,013
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people there that want to rule

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01:53:13,053 --> 01:53:13,333
Speaker 3: the world.

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01:53:13,372 --> 01:53:13,852
Speaker 2: And that's right.

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01:53:13,973 --> 01:53:17,533
Speaker 1: You can rule your local body.

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01:53:18,853 --> 01:53:22,133
Speaker 2: You want to, but everyone should read up on the

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01:53:22,213 --> 01:53:25,173
Speaker 2: candidates and get out there and vote. I reckon. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, team, wherever you are we've been doing, give

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Speaker 2: a taste of key We love yous and see it

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Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon for another edition of Matt and Tyler Afternoons.

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