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Speaker 2: Hello are you great New Zealanders And welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Metin Tyler Afternoons podcast for Friday, the twenty fifth of November,

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Speaker 2: close to ninety seventh. What is it?

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Speaker 3: Twenty eighth, twenty nine, twenty What a week? What a week?

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Speaker 2: Well, how could you be that far off? I know

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Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four, it's almost December. Yeah, that's all we need to know.

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Speaker 2: Great show today. We were talking about employment and one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty thousand. You can explain that when I've

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Speaker 2: forgotten it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I mean there was some strong opinion on

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Speaker 3: some legislation that's going to take out the high earners

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Speaker 3: if they muck around in the workplace.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then we had a great chat about mechanics and

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Speaker 2: talk to a whole lot of people that will give

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Speaker 2: some great advice on finding a good mechanic. And then

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Speaker 2: we leaned into some Beatles songs because of the new

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Speaker 2: Mantin Scorsese documentary Fantastic, I've got Glaane on the show Around.

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Speaker 3: Cricket, New Zealander of the week.

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Speaker 2: You won't believe that the New Zealander of the Week is.

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Speaker 2: It's a very heartfelt one actually, and yeah really one

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Speaker 2: that I thought was important to do.

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Speaker 3: And you got really hot on the Manawanui, really hot on.

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Speaker 2: The believe that I cannot believe that what's happened with

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Speaker 2: the Manawinee anyway, all right, okay, give a taste of

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Speaker 2: Kiwi and have a great weekend.

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Speaker 5: Talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Zaid be good afternoon, welcome into the show. I show well, well,

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Speaker 3: well the cricket all of a sudden, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just having a little word to Darcy

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Speaker 2: and we were saying, oh look we didn't get to

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Speaker 2: three point fifty all out for three forty eight. It

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Speaker 2: was looking good. But I'll tell you what, the black

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Speaker 2: Caps have clawed it back now England forty five for three,

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Speaker 2: have got Crawley Bethel and root out.

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Speaker 3: Yes boys, so boy oye boyd game on.

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Speaker 2: I was concerned because we I thought we could do

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Speaker 2: a lot better than three forty eight, especially when we

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Speaker 2: were one nine, nine for three. But you know we've

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Speaker 2: got some wickets, so game on there at Hagley Oval.

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Speaker 3: Now you're mentioning to a lot of the officers something

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Speaker 3: happened at a speaking event last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So look, I'm normally a pretty professional MC. I

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Speaker 2: It was at the twenty twenty four Reseller News Innovation Awards,

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Speaker 2: which is a fantastic event and you know, celebrating excellence

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Speaker 2: in the New Zealand technology sector. Great event, great night.

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Speaker 2: Went on the stage and did what I think was

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Speaker 2: Think most of my most of my jokes landed pretty well.

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Speaker 2: You know, a couple first, but you can expect that,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there's nothing quite like steaming on stage and

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Speaker 3: Third times a charm though they will remember that. You know,

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Speaker 2: Well I shouldn't said that, because I woke up this

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Speaker 2: But now you're now you're saying they'll remember it. So

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Speaker 2: was a great, great event. Twenty twenty four Reselling US

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Speaker 2: Innovation Awards. A great, great group of people, great great sector.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, the organized and the reselling news.

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Speaker 3: Great people love it. Beautiful story. Right on to the show.

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Speaker 3: After three o'clock. Because it is Friday, we always finish

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Speaker 3: the show with topical tunes. This is where Matt and

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Speaker 3: I each pick a song related to a story of

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Speaker 3: the week. The first three votes via phone takes it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, it's currently five to two in my favor,

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Speaker 2: looking forward to going up three five against you. We've

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Speaker 2: also got the New Zealander of the Week that we

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Speaker 3: Be big week this week for New Zealander or the

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Speaker 3: Absolutely fleece me. It's kind of part of the warranty deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And even if you do, you don't know, you know,

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Speaker 2: you just sell me this car? In fact, I had this.

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Speaker 2: I had a word with them. I said, when you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the upsell isn't it. It's the mechanic up cell

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Speaker 3: And you don't know that you've been upsold until you

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Speaker 2: And if you're like me and you're pretty dumb when

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Speaker 2: and you know, once your car's you know, out of

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Speaker 3: after two o'clock, But right now we want to have

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Speaker 3: a talk about a new bill that potentially may make

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Speaker 3: Zealand's highest earners from being able to make unjustified dismissal claims.

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Speaker 3: The policy was part of the Act National Coalition Agreements

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Speaker 3: threshold is one hundred and eighty thousand dollars per year.

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Speaker 3: Anyone earning above that would be unable to raise an

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Speaker 3: Relations Safety Minister Brook van Velden said the move will

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Speaker 3: their high impact leadership and specialist roles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I imagine most of us out there have

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Speaker 8: You know, give them verbal notice, give them ridden notice

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Speaker 10: So the government did release the COVID report, despite any

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB twenty nine past one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we didn't maybe make this clear enough

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Speaker 2: which is basically not doing your job as expected. This

436
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Speaker 2: is quite separate from pgs such as bullying et cetera,

437
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Speaker 2: as raised by earlier texts. Those rights haven't been removed.

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Speaker 2: That's from Sean. Thank you for that clarification. I blame

439
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Speaker 2: you Tyler for not making that clear before.

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Speaker 3: No, I know that is good to clarify that. Plenty

441
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Speaker 3: of good texts coming through on nine two ninety two.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent support this possible new legislation where one

443
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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty thousand dollars. Look at the many people

444
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Speaker 3: who have run public institutions getting paid exorbitant money, then

445
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Speaker 3: stuff up the organization that they are running, sickening guys.

446
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Speaker 3: I disagree strongly with removing protections for staff over one

447
00:20:48,413 --> 00:20:51,693
Speaker 3: hundred eighty thousand dollars for starters, the threshold is too low.

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Speaker 3: If employers want to dismiss without cause, they can agree

449
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Speaker 3: that in their contract. Sure it will cost, but if

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Speaker 3: they want the option, it should be paid for.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now it's another interesting question. Is there any one any employee?

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Speaker 2: And this is the whole thing about not being friends, right,

454
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Speaker 2: you know, that's that old adage that they're not friends.

455
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Speaker 2: But how I mean, they are the focus of your complaints.

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Speaker 2: So often you'll be in a workplace and I've been

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Speaker 2: a number of workplaces where I've got I thought the

458
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Speaker 2: manager has been quite good. But all people do all

459
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Speaker 2: day every day is say the reason why things aren't

460
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Speaker 2: working out is because of the manager. And that could

461
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Speaker 2: be just because they're not not liking their decisions. So

462
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Speaker 2: you know, like our management here exemplary.

463
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, very very good.

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Speaker 2: Very very very good management here, much beast in the

465
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Speaker 2: country at the matin Tyler afternoons on z be incredible management.

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Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, from underneath you often

467
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Speaker 2: because you will think that that we can do the

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Speaker 2: job better. You know, you always think you can, and

469
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Speaker 2: you always look and go, this is wrong. Sometimes you

470
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Speaker 2: don't know the whole picture. Yeah, but I guess you.

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Speaker 2: I guess if you are the level above that, then

472
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Speaker 2: you see the exact results and you know. But then

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Speaker 2: again there's the other part of it, which is cronyism,

474
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Speaker 2: where you'll be working in a company and you'll have

475
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Speaker 2: a really poor manager, but they're really good friends with

476
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Speaker 2: the people above them. And there are people and companies

477
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Speaker 2: that don't swim with the company going forward. They're not

478
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Speaker 2: all swimming in the direction. And people will have worked

479
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Speaker 2: with these people before and look, we love your stories.

480
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Speaker 2: You can use a different name and you don't have

481
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Speaker 2: to reveal exactly who you are. But there is these

482
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Speaker 2: people and companies that are very good at moving up

483
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Speaker 2: within the company because they're very good at managing up,

484
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Speaker 2: really good at managing relationships. Terrible at managing down and

485
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Speaker 2: maybe don't get the results. So you know, they're great

486
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Speaker 2: at making the person above them feel like everything's going

487
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Speaker 2: well and reporting up and blaming everything down.

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Speaker 3: But just on that question about can you ever be

489
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Speaker 3: mates worth a manager? What's your take on that. I

490
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Speaker 3: think you can and I have been. I have been

491
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Speaker 3: pretty good friends with a lot of my managers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean absolutely I have as well,

493
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. But from the managerial perspective, that's another question,

494
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Speaker 2: isn't it Whether you are where you can't expect them

495
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Speaker 2: to love you. Otherwise you get in the office situation

496
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Speaker 2: where where the manager, you know, the David Brent or

497
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Speaker 2: the Michael Scott, Yes, thinks that they're they're everyone's best friend,

498
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Speaker 2: when they're not, because there's a certain amount of complaining

499
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Speaker 2: that needs to be done about the manager from the

500
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Speaker 2: people below them. Yeah, except that that's just how the

501
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Speaker 2: politics of an office works. It doesn't mean the people

502
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Speaker 2: below are right, and so is a very very very

503
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Speaker 2: complex issue.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: After the headlines, We're going to have a chat with

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Speaker 3: Gareth abdenor an employment Laura about this potential legislation. It

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Speaker 3: is twenty seven to two.

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Speaker 12: by Health New Zealand. The program helps families live in

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516
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517
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susane. We are talking about government

530
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Speaker 3: plans to prevent top earners making unjustified dismissal claims. The

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Speaker 3: legislation will be introduced to Parliament next year. To have

532
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Speaker 3: a chat about this, we're joined by Gareth Abdenor. He

533
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Speaker 3: is the director and founder of ab Donor Employment Law. Gareth, mate,

534
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Speaker 3: nice to chet again.

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Speaker 13: Oh it's lovely to be here.

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Speaker 2: So Gareth, what exactly can you explain what they mean

537
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Speaker 2: by unjustified dismissal in this case?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so very very interesting policy. And essentially what I

539
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Speaker 13: understand the proposal to be is that employees can still

540
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Speaker 13: raise a claim for being treated unfairly, but they can't

541
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Speaker 13: raise a claim for being unfairly dismissed in a similar

542
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Speaker 13: way to the ninety day trial period. And so someone

543
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Speaker 13: dismissed under the ninety day trial period could still raise

544
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Speaker 13: a claim for breach of good faith or being disadvantaged,

545
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Speaker 13: but not for the dismissal itself.

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Speaker 2: Right, And what are the advantages of making it easier

547
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Speaker 2: to get rid of poor management?

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Speaker 13: Yeah? Again, very interesting because it creates this two tier system.

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Speaker 13: And the arguments that I've heard are that it makes

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Speaker 13: it easier to move on someone who doesn't have the

551
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Speaker 13: chops for the job.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So, you know, in much the same way that the

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Speaker 13: ninety day trial periods being justified, it lets employers give

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Speaker 13: someone a go. Now, while I think that's really convincing

556
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Speaker 13: for the ninety day trial period, I think it's a

557
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Speaker 13: bit of a posh for this artificial cap of one

558
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Speaker 13: hundred and eighty k. You know, why can you not

559
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Speaker 13: under fairly dismiss someone earning one hundred and seventy nine

560
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Speaker 13: As soon as they earn an extra thousand dollars, you

561
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Speaker 13: can sack them without consequences. It seems a bit strange

562
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Speaker 13: to me.

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Speaker 2: So would you bet? Would it be better? And I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure if this is possible, but would it be

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Speaker 2: better if it was defined as people in managerial roles?

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Speaker 2: Because there's people in earning one hundred and eighty k engineers,

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Speaker 2: As a caller said, just before can be earning over

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty k, but they're not in a

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Speaker 2: managerial role.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean that's certainly an interesting idea. I think

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Speaker 13: the difficulty would be in implementing that. I think from

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Speaker 13: my perspective being boots on the ground dealing with these

573
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Speaker 13: claims day in day out, this proposed change I think

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Speaker 13: signals the fact that the pendulums perhaps swung too far

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Speaker 13: to one one end. The grievance industry has been created,

576
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Speaker 13: and this is one way of trying to peg that back.

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Speaker 13: I think it's a bit artificial, though, and what would

578
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Speaker 13: be better would be to actually give better compensation to

579
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Speaker 13: people who've really been treated poorly and stop this industry

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Speaker 13: where anyone who's dismissed knows that if they raise a claim,

581
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Speaker 13: it's going to be more cost effective for the employer

582
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Speaker 13: to pay them five grand rather than defend it.

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Speaker 3: So, in your expertise, Gareth, you talk about the grievance industry.

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Speaker 3: Is that more of a problem at the upper end.

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Speaker 3: Is this legislation would target or is that a problem

586
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Speaker 3: across the board.

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Speaker 13: I think it's a problem across the board, and in fact,

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Speaker 13: I think it's more of a problem on people on

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Speaker 13: more moderate incomes. You know, when we're dealing with people

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Speaker 13: on high salaries, often they are more alive to the

591
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Speaker 13: fact that if they don't actually sit in the role

592
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Speaker 13: and they're not performing in the role, they're going to

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Speaker 13: get moved on anyway. And so I think there's often

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Speaker 13: a higher level of pragmatism for those sorts of employees.

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Speaker 13: The grievance industry, you know, the no winnow fee type

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Speaker 13: arrangement is often more people on modest incomes.

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Speaker 2: So currently, right now, so you've got a company and

598
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Speaker 2: you've hired someone and they're proving to be such a

599
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Speaker 2: bad manager that you can see that your company is

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Speaker 2: in trouble. What are the options for the people up

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Speaker 2: the chain now to deal with that situation if they

602
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Speaker 2: see their company rotting out from underneath them because of

603
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Speaker 2: a bad management choice.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and that's a great question, and the options aren't

605
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Speaker 13: really great. You know, you can go down the performance

606
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Speaker 13: management track, which takes time, takes money, and is not

607
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Speaker 13: without risk. Or you can go through a restructure, which

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Speaker 13: is often artificial and done to achieve the desired purpose,

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Speaker 13: but you know, you have to effectively go through a charade.

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Speaker 5: Or.

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Speaker 13: You have an honest conversation, and sometimes that works, and

612
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Speaker 13: sometimes you get flapped with acclaim. Of course, you know,

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Speaker 13: someone who's not performing and is having an impact on

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Speaker 13: the business isn't restricted to managers, and we often see

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Speaker 13: it with any sort of role that has interaction with

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Speaker 13: your clients. And so that's why I think this it's

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Speaker 13: not necessarily a bad idea, but it's somewhat artificial because

618
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Speaker 13: it sets up this two tiered structure. Why should someone

619
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Speaker 13: be treated unfairly or not have a fear process simply

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Speaker 13: because they're on a higher income.

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Speaker 2: So when you talk about this sort of unjustified there,

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Speaker 2: when you talk about the unjustified dismissals part of it.

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Speaker 2: So if a boss came in and they had enough

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Speaker 2: of the manager, would this enable the you know Hollywood

625
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Speaker 2: movie style coming in, you're fired, get out, you know

626
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Speaker 2: you're out today? You know it without enable that.

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Speaker 13: Well, it's interesting to see because we haven't actually seen

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Speaker 13: the draft legislation yet.

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Speaker 15: I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 13: I expect that it wouldn't allow that to happen, and

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Speaker 13: it would simply be that more lassitude is given to

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Speaker 13: employers dealing with these high income earners.

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Speaker 5: I think the.

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Speaker 13: Devil is going to be in the detail.

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Speaker 2: Really, yes, isn't it. But I guess the the the

636
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Speaker 2: plus side of it is that if you are in

637
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Speaker 2: a company and you're you know, you're spending a long

638
00:32:07,293 --> 00:32:09,973
Speaker 2: time and you know the company really well, and then

639
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Speaker 2: instead of taking a risk on you to put you

640
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Speaker 2: in management because they're not going to sure how it

641
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Speaker 2: turns out, they're going to bring someone from outside of

642
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Speaker 2: the company that has a better CV. So, you know,

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Speaker 2: for someone that's been working a long time in a

644
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Speaker 2: company shows what they're worth, this might be an easier

645
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Speaker 2: path up for you to prove yourself.

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Speaker 13: Oh, definitely, definitely, And we've seen that with the reintroduction

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Speaker 13: of the ninety day trial periods. Certainly employers that I

648
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Speaker 13: work with are more open to giving someone a go,

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Speaker 13: taking a chance on them because there's less at risk,

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Speaker 13: and that will likely be the case for more senior

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Speaker 13: people as well. I guess the one thing that I

652
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Speaker 13: found really interesting about the discussions over this proposed change

653
00:32:56,613 --> 00:33:01,413
Speaker 13: is that parties will still be able to agree to

654
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Speaker 13: have protections in their poment agreements.

655
00:33:05,373 --> 00:33:07,773
Speaker 15: And so, you know, if.

656
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Speaker 13: You're running a company and you really want to hire

657
00:33:11,173 --> 00:33:14,853
Speaker 13: a rock star with a great reputation. I wouldn't be

658
00:33:14,973 --> 00:33:18,173
Speaker 13: surprised if that rock star made it a requirement, if

659
00:33:18,173 --> 00:33:23,653
Speaker 13: there were protections in the employment agreement. But if you're

660
00:33:23,813 --> 00:33:25,533
Speaker 13: if you're not a charging.

661
00:33:25,213 --> 00:33:28,253
Speaker 2: If you're not a rock star, you you might be

662
00:33:29,173 --> 00:33:31,893
Speaker 2: limiting your chance of getting the promotion if you insist

663
00:33:31,933 --> 00:33:32,733
Speaker 2: on that clause.

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Speaker 15: Definitely, because you're kind of saying, really good point.

665
00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:38,853
Speaker 2: You're kind of saying, you're kind of saying, there's a

666
00:33:38,933 --> 00:33:41,853
Speaker 2: chance I might be rubbish.

667
00:33:41,893 --> 00:33:42,493
Speaker 16: That's right.

668
00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:45,053
Speaker 3: Well, Gareth, if this comes in, you're going to be

669
00:33:45,053 --> 00:33:46,173
Speaker 3: a busy man, that's for sure.

670
00:33:47,013 --> 00:33:48,093
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I think so.

671
00:33:48,973 --> 00:33:51,573
Speaker 3: Interesting time, Yeah, yeah, it is always good to chat.

672
00:33:51,613 --> 00:33:54,493
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Thanks a lot of guys. That

673
00:33:54,653 --> 00:33:59,133
Speaker 3: is Gareth abdenor the founder and director of abdenaor Employment Law.

674
00:33:59,933 --> 00:34:02,333
Speaker 3: We're going to pick this back up very shortly. Oh eight,

675
00:34:02,333 --> 00:34:05,053
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

676
00:34:05,133 --> 00:34:09,812
Speaker 3: It is a quarter two fourteen to two.

677
00:34:10,293 --> 00:34:13,693
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

678
00:34:13,652 --> 00:34:17,652
Speaker 1: and eighty eight. Matt Eath and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

679
00:34:17,693 --> 00:34:20,453
Speaker 2: They'd be her hot topic here. We're getting the text

680
00:34:20,533 --> 00:34:23,013
Speaker 2: machine is exploding on nine two ninety two. We're taking

681
00:34:23,013 --> 00:34:26,333
Speaker 2: calls on eight hundred eighty ten eighty as well. Afternoon, guys,

682
00:34:26,453 --> 00:34:29,773
Speaker 2: interesting talk where the employer on managers. Personally, I would

683
00:34:29,773 --> 00:34:33,333
Speaker 2: not consider employing a manager who didn't negotiate that clause

684
00:34:33,373 --> 00:34:35,853
Speaker 2: out of their employment contract. You employ these people to

685
00:34:35,933 --> 00:34:39,373
Speaker 2: manage their department or company, and as such there will

686
00:34:39,373 --> 00:34:41,813
Speaker 2: be a fair amount of negotiations in the day to

687
00:34:41,853 --> 00:34:44,733
Speaker 2: day business. If they couldn't negotiate their employment contract to

688
00:34:44,773 --> 00:34:47,853
Speaker 2: benefit themselves, I doubt they could negotiate anything to benefit

689
00:34:47,853 --> 00:34:50,293
Speaker 2: the company. Tears from Justine. So that's the opposite one

690
00:34:50,293 --> 00:34:52,533
Speaker 2: of what I was saying. I was saying, if you

691
00:34:52,573 --> 00:34:54,933
Speaker 2: were about to promote someone's manager and they said that

692
00:34:54,973 --> 00:34:59,613
Speaker 2: they wanted to include the that they cannot be they

693
00:34:59,613 --> 00:35:03,413
Speaker 2: include this clause of un justified dismissible, I would take

694
00:35:03,413 --> 00:35:04,853
Speaker 2: it that they're saying that they might turn out to

695
00:35:04,853 --> 00:35:07,213
Speaker 2: be rubbish. But justin he is saying the opposite. He

696
00:35:07,293 --> 00:35:09,253
Speaker 2: was saying, would prove that they are paid negotiation.

697
00:35:09,893 --> 00:35:17,373
Speaker 3: Chris, what's your take on this? Hey, President guys? Helloah,

698
00:35:17,413 --> 00:35:18,933
Speaker 3: you got you got Chris.

699
00:35:20,893 --> 00:35:25,252
Speaker 4: Since this government came to office, one of its main

700
00:35:27,373 --> 00:35:36,093
Speaker 4: considerations has been target setting and expectations. The government is

701
00:35:36,133 --> 00:35:40,293
Speaker 4: probably one of the largest employers in the country, and

702
00:35:40,333 --> 00:35:44,093
Speaker 4: I believe that this is a way of getting rid

703
00:35:44,773 --> 00:35:52,813
Speaker 4: or changing senior positions within many, many government departments. I

704
00:35:52,853 --> 00:35:57,373
Speaker 4: don't think it's really aimed at the private company. Yeah,

705
00:35:57,813 --> 00:36:00,613
Speaker 4: if you have a manager who has been in position

706
00:36:00,733 --> 00:36:06,253
Speaker 4: for ten or fifteen years, they've become stale, they've become

707
00:36:07,773 --> 00:36:11,253
Speaker 4: can't be they're not doing the job properly. They've been

708
00:36:11,293 --> 00:36:14,333
Speaker 4: in the job a long time. The difficult to get.

709
00:36:14,253 --> 00:36:14,732
Speaker 8: Rid of them.

710
00:36:14,973 --> 00:36:17,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not aimed at the new.

711
00:36:17,373 --> 00:36:19,933
Speaker 4: Person, and now we've chosen.

712
00:36:19,573 --> 00:36:20,253
Speaker 9: The right person.

713
00:36:20,293 --> 00:36:23,973
Speaker 4: It's ed at the person who is no longer doing

714
00:36:24,013 --> 00:36:24,493
Speaker 4: the job.

715
00:36:25,893 --> 00:36:28,453
Speaker 2: So, Chris, you see a situation where this comes in.

716
00:36:28,693 --> 00:36:30,812
Speaker 2: So you see a situation where Chris with this comes

717
00:36:30,813 --> 00:36:34,853
Speaker 2: in and then suddenly it's the government unleashing that on

718
00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:35,693
Speaker 2: the public sector.

719
00:36:37,133 --> 00:36:37,573
Speaker 17: Correct.

720
00:36:37,973 --> 00:36:40,373
Speaker 4: I think if you've got some look at the number

721
00:36:40,413 --> 00:36:42,933
Speaker 4: of what do they call it a golden parachute.

722
00:36:43,173 --> 00:36:43,573
Speaker 3: Yeah.

723
00:36:43,893 --> 00:36:46,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, they move a CEO on and then they give

724
00:36:46,533 --> 00:36:51,613
Speaker 4: him millions and millions of dollars just to leave. They

725
00:36:51,613 --> 00:36:52,533
Speaker 4: won't have to do that.

726
00:36:52,973 --> 00:36:55,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you're trying to make savings in the

727
00:36:55,253 --> 00:36:57,853
Speaker 2: public sector, they also always get pained on how much

728
00:36:57,893 --> 00:36:59,933
Speaker 2: they've had to spend to get rid of the people

729
00:36:59,973 --> 00:37:00,933
Speaker 2: to make those savings.

730
00:37:01,053 --> 00:37:01,652
Speaker 3: Yeah.

731
00:37:01,813 --> 00:37:03,813
Speaker 2: So if you want to make savings, but you spend

732
00:37:03,813 --> 00:37:05,893
Speaker 2: a whole lot of money dealing with the management that

733
00:37:05,933 --> 00:37:10,212
Speaker 2: you're getting rid of, then you haven't made many great

734
00:37:10,213 --> 00:37:11,773
Speaker 2: savings for a number of years.

735
00:37:13,373 --> 00:37:13,893
Speaker 17: Exactly.

736
00:37:14,133 --> 00:37:18,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's the government making the rule, so the government

737
00:37:18,733 --> 00:37:24,413
Speaker 4: can move people on and put new people in to

738
00:37:24,533 --> 00:37:28,453
Speaker 4: achieve the targets that they are going to set.

739
00:37:28,653 --> 00:37:32,853
Speaker 3: Yep. Nicely spotted Chris. And as Chris said, I don't

740
00:37:32,853 --> 00:37:34,573
Speaker 3: think there would be a bad thing, Matt. You know,

741
00:37:34,653 --> 00:37:37,093
Speaker 3: we know that there are some senior managers and public

742
00:37:37,133 --> 00:37:39,772
Speaker 3: sectors who are pretty much welded to the desk, very

743
00:37:39,893 --> 00:37:42,133
Speaker 3: very difficult to get rid of them. They're kind of

744
00:37:42,213 --> 00:37:44,973
Speaker 3: just an autopilot mode. They're making bad decisions. I don't

745
00:37:44,973 --> 00:37:46,853
Speaker 3: really care. They're just there for the paycheck. We know

746
00:37:46,933 --> 00:37:48,893
Speaker 3: that's the case and some of the public sectors. So

747
00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:50,732
Speaker 3: if this makes it easier for them to get rid

748
00:37:50,733 --> 00:37:53,293
Speaker 3: of the dead wood, I mean, that's surely a good

749
00:37:53,293 --> 00:37:54,453
Speaker 3: thing for all of us, right.

750
00:37:54,453 --> 00:37:56,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for those listeners that have come over from

751
00:37:56,853 --> 00:37:59,573
Speaker 2: radio Joaki here to the show. No, that wasn't the

752
00:37:59,613 --> 00:38:02,772
Speaker 2: butter conditioner guy. That butter conditioner guy. My favorite caller

753
00:38:02,813 --> 00:38:06,933
Speaker 2: ever is Alan, but a very very similar accent, beautiful

754
00:38:06,973 --> 00:38:08,013
Speaker 2: accident that Chris has.

755
00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:10,213
Speaker 3: To get Allen on the show, don't we Oh eight

756
00:38:10,293 --> 00:38:12,413
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call? It

757
00:38:12,493 --> 00:38:13,373
Speaker 3: is seven to two.

758
00:38:15,893 --> 00:38:18,893
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls on OH eight

759
00:38:18,973 --> 00:38:22,453
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Mad Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons

760
00:38:22,653 --> 00:38:23,253
Speaker 1: News Talks.

761
00:38:23,253 --> 00:38:26,333
Speaker 3: That'd be right, good chat. It is five to two

762
00:38:26,533 --> 00:38:29,773
Speaker 3: after two o'clock. Let's talk about mechanics. How do you

763
00:38:29,933 --> 00:38:32,853
Speaker 3: find a mechanic that you hope is not going to

764
00:38:33,013 --> 00:38:35,653
Speaker 3: upsell you, perhaps rip you off. I'm in a situation

765
00:38:35,733 --> 00:38:37,333
Speaker 3: now where I know I've got to take my car,

766
00:38:37,453 --> 00:38:40,333
Speaker 3: it's a new car, to an authorized service center, and

767
00:38:40,413 --> 00:38:43,773
Speaker 3: I know they're going to rent me for everything I'm worth.

768
00:38:44,133 --> 00:38:46,813
Speaker 2: It seems like the big brand car dealer service centers

769
00:38:46,893 --> 00:38:49,613
Speaker 2: are the most expensive way to get your car looked at. Yeah,

770
00:38:49,613 --> 00:38:51,613
Speaker 2: but how do you find a mechanic you trust? And

771
00:38:51,653 --> 00:38:54,733
Speaker 2: how do you know when your service center has overcharged you?

772
00:38:55,013 --> 00:38:57,533
Speaker 2: If you're an absolute automotive idiot like me.

773
00:38:57,853 --> 00:39:00,493
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. This is going to

774
00:39:00,493 --> 00:39:02,573
Speaker 3: be a great chat. Nine two nine two is the

775
00:39:02,653 --> 00:39:05,933
Speaker 3: text number. New Sport and Weather on its way. Do

776
00:39:05,973 --> 00:39:08,333
Speaker 3: we want to cricket update on the cricket.

777
00:39:08,093 --> 00:39:10,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, England fifty eight for three. We were all out

778
00:39:10,733 --> 00:39:15,333
Speaker 2: for three hundred and forty eight. So please England currently

779
00:39:15,373 --> 00:39:16,373
Speaker 2: trailed by two ninety.

780
00:39:16,933 --> 00:39:20,293
Speaker 3: Get the boys. It is forty two.

781
00:39:20,693 --> 00:40:00,013
Speaker 18: Man, I can remember the plan makes me some Canada superman.

782
00:40:07,333 --> 00:40:09,093
Speaker 5: Talking with you all afternoon.

783
00:40:09,253 --> 00:40:13,133
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty

784
00:40:13,173 --> 00:40:14,893
Speaker 1: four News Talk said.

785
00:40:14,653 --> 00:40:19,053
Speaker 3: Be good, afternoon, Happy Friday, seven past two. Grant to

786
00:40:19,133 --> 00:40:22,212
Speaker 3: have your company as always in a good chat last hour,

787
00:40:22,213 --> 00:40:24,613
Speaker 3: but we're gonna change it up over the next fifteen

788
00:40:24,653 --> 00:40:27,493
Speaker 3: minutes or so. We want to talk about mechanics. Now,

789
00:40:27,493 --> 00:40:29,013
Speaker 3: this is on the back of I need to take

790
00:40:29,013 --> 00:40:32,693
Speaker 3: my vehicle to an authorized service center to get it,

791
00:40:32,853 --> 00:40:35,973
Speaker 3: give it, give it a service. But I know that

792
00:40:36,053 --> 00:40:39,773
Speaker 3: they are going to absolutely fleece me. I know that

793
00:40:39,773 --> 00:40:43,613
Speaker 3: they're going there's gonna be new windscreen wipers, new air filters,

794
00:40:43,693 --> 00:40:45,493
Speaker 3: They're going to do stuff to the battery, and I

795
00:40:45,533 --> 00:40:47,613
Speaker 3: know it doesn't need it because it's only two years old,

796
00:40:47,973 --> 00:40:49,933
Speaker 3: but we want to have a chat about how you

797
00:40:50,013 --> 00:40:52,493
Speaker 3: avoid getting ripped off by your mechanic, because it's not

798
00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:54,493
Speaker 3: just when you take them for a service, it's also

799
00:40:54,533 --> 00:40:56,533
Speaker 3: when you take them for warren of fitness. And when

800
00:40:56,573 --> 00:40:58,453
Speaker 3: I was driving around on Lemons that I did for

801
00:40:58,573 --> 00:41:02,373
Speaker 3: many years, I would take it to one particular garage

802
00:41:02,373 --> 00:41:06,533
Speaker 3: and they would pick up everything, faded seatbouts, your tires

803
00:41:06,813 --> 00:41:09,813
Speaker 3: are pretty much out of tread. There was enough tread

804
00:41:09,853 --> 00:41:12,732
Speaker 3: there to keep them going, but one garage said, note,

805
00:41:12,733 --> 00:41:15,133
Speaker 3: you're going to need four new tires. Then take it

806
00:41:15,173 --> 00:41:17,212
Speaker 3: to another separate garage and say, oh good.

807
00:41:17,533 --> 00:41:19,333
Speaker 2: That used to be the way you could do it.

808
00:41:19,373 --> 00:41:21,853
Speaker 2: But then they shut that down. They shut it down,

809
00:41:21,893 --> 00:41:25,173
Speaker 2: so you have to go back to the same garage. Yeah,

810
00:41:25,453 --> 00:41:28,253
Speaker 2: VT and Z. You go through VT and Z for

811
00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:30,973
Speaker 2: your warrant if you are really really back your car,

812
00:41:31,893 --> 00:41:35,453
Speaker 2: because because they're very thorough, very start thorough there. I

813
00:41:35,453 --> 00:41:38,853
Speaker 2: mean I got I got paid for having faded seat belts.

814
00:41:39,173 --> 00:41:41,613
Speaker 2: Once my seat belts were faded.

815
00:41:41,733 --> 00:41:43,093
Speaker 3: See and there's that.

816
00:41:43,453 --> 00:41:45,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I guess that'd argue. Maybe they

817
00:41:45,533 --> 00:41:47,893
Speaker 2: were they had lost their integrity or something. But I

818
00:41:47,933 --> 00:41:50,253
Speaker 2: was like, come on, man, come on, just give it

819
00:41:50,293 --> 00:41:52,733
Speaker 2: to me, you know. But yeah, I mean if you

820
00:41:52,773 --> 00:41:54,733
Speaker 2: if you are car stupid like I am, and a.

821
00:41:54,773 --> 00:41:56,133
Speaker 3: You cart stupid Tyler, certainly am.

822
00:41:56,253 --> 00:41:56,333
Speaker 11: Ye.

823
00:41:56,413 --> 00:41:58,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't know anything about them, and

824
00:41:58,253 --> 00:42:00,693
Speaker 2: that makes me feel less of a man one hundred percent.

825
00:42:01,173 --> 00:42:03,493
Speaker 2: I admit that I wish I knew cars, but you

826
00:42:03,573 --> 00:42:07,053
Speaker 2: are just going and blind. And like these big brown

827
00:42:07,093 --> 00:42:09,853
Speaker 2: car dealer service centers. I take my car to is

828
00:42:09,853 --> 00:42:13,413
Speaker 2: one particular one, and I am shocked and disgusted by

829
00:42:13,413 --> 00:42:17,613
Speaker 2: how much they charge. And my partner took her car

830
00:42:17,773 --> 00:42:21,293
Speaker 2: into one of these big brand service centers, and her

831
00:42:21,333 --> 00:42:23,813
Speaker 2: brother knows a little bit about cars, and then we

832
00:42:23,893 --> 00:42:26,093
Speaker 2: just took the list of what they were getting her,

833
00:42:26,213 --> 00:42:28,013
Speaker 2: charging her it's going to be fifteen hundred dollars on

834
00:42:28,053 --> 00:42:30,453
Speaker 2: a car that she'd bought that we bought off the

835
00:42:30,533 --> 00:42:32,773
Speaker 2: service center, and we just sent her brother in and

836
00:42:32,813 --> 00:42:34,853
Speaker 2: he went through the list and he ripped them an

837
00:42:34,933 --> 00:42:38,093
Speaker 2: absolute new one to the point where the price came

838
00:42:38,173 --> 00:42:41,493
Speaker 2: down by one thousand dollars. And so when you know

839
00:42:41,573 --> 00:42:44,373
Speaker 2: that that is happening, I mean, we're suckers. People. Like

840
00:42:44,413 --> 00:42:46,732
Speaker 2: you and me, we're out there, we're taking it and

841
00:42:46,893 --> 00:42:48,732
Speaker 2: they could just give us a list and say that's

842
00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:51,773
Speaker 2: important and we'll do it. But it could it be.

843
00:42:51,893 --> 00:42:53,333
Speaker 2: And I'd also like to hear from people that have

844
00:42:53,413 --> 00:42:56,413
Speaker 2: worked in these big brand car dealer service centers. Is

845
00:42:56,533 --> 00:43:01,533
Speaker 2: there a I mean, surely there can't be an incentive

846
00:43:01,653 --> 00:43:04,533
Speaker 2: or there can't be a structural setup to rip you

847
00:43:04,573 --> 00:43:07,813
Speaker 2: off because they would get pinged. They can't be going, look,

848
00:43:07,813 --> 00:43:09,772
Speaker 2: we're looking this is an idiot that's come in here.

849
00:43:10,493 --> 00:43:12,453
Speaker 2: We're looking to get as much money off them as

850
00:43:12,453 --> 00:43:14,772
Speaker 2: we can, because why would the individual mechanics go through

851
00:43:14,813 --> 00:43:18,333
Speaker 2: that and do that? But it seems like they do.

852
00:43:18,373 --> 00:43:21,253
Speaker 2: Am I just being naive? But I've taken my car

853
00:43:21,373 --> 00:43:24,173
Speaker 2: to get serviced and it's like, so my car is

854
00:43:24,173 --> 00:43:27,933
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen is when I bought that car, and the

855
00:43:28,013 --> 00:43:32,213
Speaker 2: second service was like fifteen hundred. That was sixteen hundred

856
00:43:32,253 --> 00:43:34,533
Speaker 2: dollars exactly, And I'm like, what kind of rubbish car

857
00:43:34,613 --> 00:43:35,333
Speaker 2: have you sold me?

858
00:43:36,813 --> 00:43:39,172
Speaker 3: And it's always for the second service. It doesn't matter

859
00:43:39,173 --> 00:43:42,173
Speaker 3: how much you've driven the car, it always cost you

860
00:43:42,213 --> 00:43:43,733
Speaker 3: an arm and a leg. And I don't understand it.

861
00:43:43,853 --> 00:43:46,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you sort of tied in warranty reasons

862
00:43:46,613 --> 00:43:49,172
Speaker 2: to go to the to the car dealership you bought

863
00:43:49,173 --> 00:43:52,093
Speaker 2: it from for a while, if I understand it. But

864
00:43:52,133 --> 00:43:54,652
Speaker 2: then once you get out of that, you know, you've

865
00:43:54,653 --> 00:43:56,053
Speaker 2: always got a friend and take it to my guy,

866
00:43:56,253 --> 00:43:57,933
Speaker 2: my guy, and then you take it to his guy,

867
00:43:58,413 --> 00:44:02,293
Speaker 2: and his guy is like four hundred bucks and or

868
00:44:02,293 --> 00:44:04,453
Speaker 2: two hundred. But it just gets it done, you know.

869
00:44:05,533 --> 00:44:08,813
Speaker 2: But if you don't have that guy, you haven't had that.

870
00:44:08,653 --> 00:44:10,813
Speaker 2: If that person doesn't know that guy, and then that

871
00:44:10,813 --> 00:44:12,533
Speaker 2: guy doesn't introduce you to that guy. I mean, it's

872
00:44:12,853 --> 00:44:16,093
Speaker 2: just a it's a terrifying position to be in being

873
00:44:16,133 --> 00:44:16,773
Speaker 2: a car idiot.

874
00:44:16,893 --> 00:44:17,053
Speaker 11: Yeah.

875
00:44:17,093 --> 00:44:19,013
Speaker 3: But just going back to when they changed the rules,

876
00:44:19,013 --> 00:44:20,692
Speaker 3: I mean, to me that was unfair is that I

877
00:44:20,773 --> 00:44:23,453
Speaker 3: was driving around in a mis and Corolla and took

878
00:44:23,453 --> 00:44:25,253
Speaker 3: it into this particular shop I'm not going to name

879
00:44:25,293 --> 00:44:28,013
Speaker 3: the name, and then they came back and said, hate

880
00:44:28,013 --> 00:44:29,813
Speaker 3: to break it to you, but it's probably going to

881
00:44:29,893 --> 00:44:31,853
Speaker 3: cost more to fix this, to get a warn of

882
00:44:31,893 --> 00:44:34,653
Speaker 3: fitness than the car is actually worth. And that devastated

883
00:44:34,693 --> 00:44:36,733
Speaker 3: me as a student. So I took that away, how

884
00:44:36,733 --> 00:44:38,613
Speaker 3: to think about it, then took it to another garage

885
00:44:39,053 --> 00:44:40,933
Speaker 3: and a lot of the stuff the first garage picked

886
00:44:40,973 --> 00:44:43,253
Speaker 3: up just was not picked up by the second garage.

887
00:44:43,293 --> 00:44:46,212
Speaker 3: And to me, that's shopping around. You know, clearly they're

888
00:44:46,213 --> 00:44:49,053
Speaker 3: all looking at the same legislation, but ken to hear

889
00:44:49,333 --> 00:44:51,652
Speaker 3: your experiences when it comes to the mechanic. Oh, eight

890
00:44:51,773 --> 00:44:54,212
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

891
00:44:54,533 --> 00:44:56,973
Speaker 2: How do you confirm that you're going to a good

892
00:44:56,973 --> 00:45:00,693
Speaker 2: mechanic And how do you check up on the big

893
00:45:00,733 --> 00:45:04,893
Speaker 2: service centers and make sure that they're not rinsing every

894
00:45:04,933 --> 00:45:06,813
Speaker 2: cent out of your idiotic.

895
00:45:08,573 --> 00:45:10,413
Speaker 3: Yeah. A couple of teachs come in. I mean we

896
00:45:10,573 --> 00:45:12,373
Speaker 3: I did state up the front that I know nothing

897
00:45:12,373 --> 00:45:14,973
Speaker 3: about cars and nothing and this and Corolla yeah, quite right,

898
00:45:15,053 --> 00:45:16,213
Speaker 3: and Toyota Corolla.

899
00:45:16,533 --> 00:45:16,813
Speaker 18: Hens.

900
00:45:16,933 --> 00:45:19,173
Speaker 3: I've made my point that I'm going to get absolutely

901
00:45:19,213 --> 00:45:19,772
Speaker 3: written by.

902
00:45:20,013 --> 00:45:21,453
Speaker 2: You go into a mechanic and say, do you look

903
00:45:21,493 --> 00:45:22,973
Speaker 2: after my Nissan Corolla for me?

904
00:45:23,373 --> 00:45:25,293
Speaker 3: Is that right? We're taking this guy for all his worth.

905
00:45:25,413 --> 00:45:27,493
Speaker 2: I do this kind of song and dance kind of

906
00:45:27,573 --> 00:45:29,653
Speaker 2: routine where I sort of, you know, whack the bonnet

907
00:45:29,693 --> 00:45:31,453
Speaker 2: and act like I know what I'm talking about, you know,

908
00:45:31,773 --> 00:45:34,333
Speaker 2: in our eyes, bring up a few points to try

909
00:45:34,333 --> 00:45:37,013
Speaker 2: and make it sound like I'm not an idiot, but

910
00:45:37,013 --> 00:45:38,853
Speaker 2: probably reveal I am more than than if I just

911
00:45:38,893 --> 00:45:39,453
Speaker 2: be quiet.

912
00:45:39,893 --> 00:45:42,373
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

913
00:45:42,413 --> 00:45:45,013
Speaker 3: It is twelve past two.

914
00:45:45,213 --> 00:45:48,893
Speaker 1: You're on new home of Afternoon Tour maton Taylor Adams

915
00:45:48,933 --> 00:45:49,933
Speaker 1: Afternoon Call.

916
00:45:50,093 --> 00:45:51,652
Speaker 5: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

917
00:45:51,853 --> 00:45:55,573
Speaker 3: News Talk said, be it is a quarter past to

918
00:45:55,733 --> 00:45:57,173
Speaker 3: a quick cricket update.

919
00:45:57,533 --> 00:46:03,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, England seventy one for four, so we've currently got

920
00:46:03,573 --> 00:46:07,093
Speaker 2: brook and Pope batting Brooklyn twelve, Pope on a zero

921
00:46:07,973 --> 00:46:10,773
Speaker 2: a R because currently one for seventeen. So New Zealand

922
00:46:10,813 --> 00:46:15,732
Speaker 2: we're all out for three forty eight. England seventy one

923
00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:19,773
Speaker 2: for four, so well that you'd say advantage New Zealand.

924
00:46:20,013 --> 00:46:20,252
Speaker 19: Yeah.

925
00:46:20,253 --> 00:46:22,373
Speaker 3: Boys, No, we have been chatting about mechanics.

926
00:46:22,453 --> 00:46:26,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've been absolutely rinsed here. Nisan Corolla definitely

927
00:46:26,693 --> 00:46:30,333
Speaker 2: sounds like you know nothing, Tyler. You're definitely getting charged

928
00:46:30,373 --> 00:46:32,493
Speaker 2: eighty dollars to top up your indicator fluid.

929
00:46:32,853 --> 00:46:35,253
Speaker 3: No, that's looking good, the indicator fluid. I need to

930
00:46:35,253 --> 00:46:35,813
Speaker 3: top that up.

931
00:46:37,413 --> 00:46:40,173
Speaker 2: Someone makes a really good point about VT and Z

932
00:46:40,333 --> 00:46:42,413
Speaker 2: because I've always I come from, you know, back in

933
00:46:42,453 --> 00:46:45,172
Speaker 2: the day, having absolutely rubbish cars, and so I didn't

934
00:46:45,253 --> 00:46:46,933
Speaker 2: like VT and Z because they would find out what

935
00:46:46,973 --> 00:46:48,773
Speaker 2: was actually wrong, and I wanted to go to someone

936
00:46:48,773 --> 00:46:50,613
Speaker 2: that would let some things past. But someone does point

937
00:46:50,613 --> 00:46:54,013
Speaker 2: out that VT and Z don't do repairs, so they

938
00:46:54,013 --> 00:46:56,573
Speaker 2: don't really have any skin in the game as far

939
00:46:56,613 --> 00:46:58,693
Speaker 2: as finding something that's wrong for them to fix.

940
00:46:58,893 --> 00:47:01,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't get any money from that. Yeah, Greg,

941
00:47:01,893 --> 00:47:04,133
Speaker 3: what's your view on how to find the best mechanic?

942
00:47:06,293 --> 00:47:09,252
Speaker 20: Example, I bought a v percent hand off a guy,

943
00:47:09,653 --> 00:47:11,493
Speaker 20: and I see someone like, well, it wasn't so cheap

944
00:47:11,493 --> 00:47:13,933
Speaker 20: because it was like mint and it was about four

945
00:47:14,013 --> 00:47:15,893
Speaker 20: years old to because it needs a Cambell doing it

946
00:47:15,973 --> 00:47:19,212
Speaker 20: the next service. So when the next service came around,

947
00:47:19,213 --> 00:47:20,973
Speaker 20: I rang the dealership and I rang a couple of

948
00:47:20,973 --> 00:47:23,693
Speaker 20: other people. The difference in costs was bare all. So

949
00:47:23,733 --> 00:47:25,732
Speaker 20: I decided to go to the dealer. It was going

950
00:47:25,773 --> 00:47:27,812
Speaker 20: to be twelve hundred and seventy four dollars. I remember,

951
00:47:27,853 --> 00:47:29,093
Speaker 20: it's clear as bell or I took it and to

952
00:47:29,093 --> 00:47:31,212
Speaker 20: get it done. And I went and the guy said, oh,

953
00:47:31,853 --> 00:47:34,053
Speaker 20: it'll only be there if it's a genuine part. It'll

954
00:47:34,093 --> 00:47:37,053
Speaker 20: be seventeen hundred and ninety dolline dollars or sixteen if

955
00:47:37,093 --> 00:47:39,853
Speaker 20: it's not a genuine part. And I thought, here we go.

956
00:47:40,613 --> 00:47:42,613
Speaker 20: He's in the car already, and I said, here we go.

957
00:47:42,733 --> 00:47:44,133
Speaker 20: And so I went out to the car and I

958
00:47:44,133 --> 00:47:46,293
Speaker 20: looked through the service book and the guy that had

959
00:47:46,333 --> 00:47:49,013
Speaker 20: bought the car had bought it off this dealership, and

960
00:47:49,133 --> 00:47:51,493
Speaker 20: it had been serviced there religiously by this S dealership.

961
00:47:51,573 --> 00:47:53,772
Speaker 20: So I went back into the thing and I said,

962
00:47:54,253 --> 00:47:56,333
Speaker 20: it'll be twelve seventy four, so we don't know that.

963
00:47:56,773 --> 00:47:58,573
Speaker 20: And I said, well, if you don't know that, you

964
00:47:58,693 --> 00:48:00,093
Speaker 20: better have a look at this book because it's been

965
00:48:00,093 --> 00:48:02,053
Speaker 20: only service to hear by you people and never looked

966
00:48:02,053 --> 00:48:04,173
Speaker 20: by anybody else. So if it's not got a genuine

967
00:48:04,213 --> 00:48:06,573
Speaker 20: part on, you've either ripped the guy off before or

968
00:48:06,573 --> 00:48:10,253
Speaker 20: you're going to rip me off. So woww to be

969
00:48:10,253 --> 00:48:14,613
Speaker 20: twelve seventy four. And I just I just as soon

970
00:48:14,653 --> 00:48:16,613
Speaker 20: as they said it, I just knew exactly what was

971
00:48:16,653 --> 00:48:18,813
Speaker 20: going to happen, you know, and I just loook to myself.

972
00:48:19,253 --> 00:48:21,573
Speaker 20: I was pretty annoyed, and I thought I won't even

973
00:48:21,613 --> 00:48:23,573
Speaker 20: go back to that crowd, but I had to when

974
00:48:23,613 --> 00:48:26,373
Speaker 20: the handbrake failed on it, and I just head ele

975
00:48:26,453 --> 00:48:29,453
Speaker 20: trying to handbrake and that cost me about five hundred

976
00:48:29,533 --> 00:48:31,813
Speaker 20: bucks for a switch, and I was quite annoyed about that.

977
00:48:32,093 --> 00:48:36,053
Speaker 20: And I just think to myself, now I don't go

978
00:48:36,173 --> 00:48:39,093
Speaker 20: to you know, don't go to a dealer at all.

979
00:48:39,493 --> 00:48:41,933
Speaker 20: I just take it to my local garage to get

980
00:48:41,933 --> 00:48:43,893
Speaker 20: a set. I still got that car set a second

981
00:48:43,893 --> 00:48:46,813
Speaker 20: cam belt in three hundred thousand k's. Wow, everybody in

982
00:48:46,813 --> 00:48:48,893
Speaker 20: the work, everybody in the world's driven. It's still a

983
00:48:48,893 --> 00:48:51,573
Speaker 20: beautiful car. It's not worth anything until you keep it.

984
00:48:51,733 --> 00:48:54,373
Speaker 20: You know, It's like it's genuinely a beautiful car. It's

985
00:48:54,413 --> 00:48:57,013
Speaker 20: lovely to drive. It's a Diesel ten and disil. I

986
00:48:57,013 --> 00:48:59,133
Speaker 20: get on a good trip, I get four point six

987
00:48:59,213 --> 00:49:01,252
Speaker 20: leaders per one hundred k. I get about fifteen hundred

988
00:49:01,293 --> 00:49:03,453
Speaker 20: k's out of a tank if I try hard. And

989
00:49:04,173 --> 00:49:06,493
Speaker 20: I just love it. And I don't drive that car

990
00:49:06,533 --> 00:49:08,453
Speaker 20: at all anymore. Just you're not getting used. So I

991
00:49:08,493 --> 00:49:10,293
Speaker 20: learned it to my nephew. My son's had it, my

992
00:49:10,373 --> 00:49:13,893
Speaker 20: daughter's had it, and it's just worth nothing. So we

993
00:49:13,973 --> 00:49:16,333
Speaker 20: keep it as a second car for anybody to use.

994
00:49:16,373 --> 00:49:18,333
Speaker 20: And it isn't just a beautiful car. And I'll probably

995
00:49:18,413 --> 00:49:21,373
Speaker 20: end up doing a third cambout in another sixty thousand case.

996
00:49:21,693 --> 00:49:23,533
Speaker 2: The thing with that, though, Greg is you're smart and

997
00:49:23,533 --> 00:49:25,653
Speaker 2: you went back and you looked at that service record

998
00:49:25,813 --> 00:49:28,333
Speaker 2: and you checked up on them. Well, the problem is

999
00:49:28,373 --> 00:49:31,333
Speaker 2: that that a lot of people aren't smart like you,

1000
00:49:31,413 --> 00:49:33,853
Speaker 2: including myself. I wouldn't have thought to do that. No,

1001
00:49:34,053 --> 00:49:38,413
Speaker 2: that's brilliant. But also, you know, the other side of

1002
00:49:38,413 --> 00:49:41,893
Speaker 2: it is, is that structural within that dealer that they're

1003
00:49:41,893 --> 00:49:45,053
Speaker 2: going to try that on? And why would the individual

1004
00:49:45,093 --> 00:49:47,453
Speaker 2: mechanic try that on because you know, you imagine that

1005
00:49:47,493 --> 00:49:50,172
Speaker 2: they're employed in the dealership. You imagine that that there's

1006
00:49:50,253 --> 00:49:52,893
Speaker 2: levels of management, So that would seem that that is

1007
00:49:53,653 --> 00:49:56,573
Speaker 2: systemic in that company to try it on with the

1008
00:49:56,613 --> 00:49:58,613
Speaker 2: cambout I would.

1009
00:49:58,493 --> 00:50:01,893
Speaker 20: Say so because the same car, the same people. I

1010
00:50:02,013 --> 00:50:04,333
Speaker 20: ended up taking sixty two dollars in cash in to

1011
00:50:04,453 --> 00:50:06,733
Speaker 20: them after they said they'd do something for nothing and

1012
00:50:06,773 --> 00:50:08,493
Speaker 20: said you'll never get another dollar out of the in

1013
00:50:08,493 --> 00:50:08,893
Speaker 20: my life.

1014
00:50:09,173 --> 00:50:09,373
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1015
00:50:10,053 --> 00:50:11,053
Speaker 14: I got neared him again.

1016
00:50:11,293 --> 00:50:13,973
Speaker 20: Yeah, never go and need him again, because you know,

1017
00:50:14,053 --> 00:50:16,213
Speaker 20: we had an agreement. And I pulled the service manage

1018
00:50:16,253 --> 00:50:18,813
Speaker 20: over and the guy that was the two people that

1019
00:50:18,853 --> 00:50:21,013
Speaker 20: are involved, and I said, you and I had an agreement.

1020
00:50:21,293 --> 00:50:23,053
Speaker 20: Oh no, that wasn't that. I said, well, let's put

1021
00:50:23,053 --> 00:50:26,133
Speaker 20: it this way. I'm not stupid. I remember what I remember,

1022
00:50:26,253 --> 00:50:28,533
Speaker 20: and I know the conversation, and you guys are sitting

1023
00:50:28,573 --> 00:50:32,293
Speaker 20: there bullshitting me, and he's the sixty two bucks, which

1024
00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:33,733
Speaker 20: I don't want to And then they said do you

1025
00:50:33,773 --> 00:50:35,973
Speaker 20: want a receipt? And I said, you're not listening, are you.

1026
00:50:36,533 --> 00:50:38,413
Speaker 20: I said, you'll never get another cent of me as

1027
00:50:38,413 --> 00:50:40,973
Speaker 20: long as I live. I don't need a receipt. I

1028
00:50:41,173 --> 00:50:43,973
Speaker 20: just walked out the door and I genuinely have never

1029
00:50:44,013 --> 00:50:44,732
Speaker 20: been back to them.

1030
00:50:44,973 --> 00:50:47,173
Speaker 2: Now, how did you How did you find the local

1031
00:50:47,213 --> 00:50:50,613
Speaker 2: mechanic you go to now? And how did you How

1032
00:50:50,653 --> 00:50:53,493
Speaker 2: did you know that you could trust them?

1033
00:50:53,813 --> 00:50:53,973
Speaker 21: Oh?

1034
00:50:54,813 --> 00:50:55,933
Speaker 20: Through through mates.

1035
00:50:55,973 --> 00:50:56,493
Speaker 14: They sent me there.

1036
00:50:56,533 --> 00:50:58,732
Speaker 20: He's a friend of a friend of a friend sort

1037
00:50:58,733 --> 00:51:02,453
Speaker 20: of thing, and then they started business. I'm good support.

1038
00:51:02,613 --> 00:51:05,493
Speaker 20: The biggest problem that I've got now is booking there,

1039
00:51:05,493 --> 00:51:07,973
Speaker 20: and they're so busy. It's two weeks away, and that

1040
00:51:08,573 --> 00:51:11,333
Speaker 20: doesn't always work for me. So that's a good problem

1041
00:51:11,333 --> 00:51:13,493
Speaker 20: to have, not a bad problem. And then over the

1042
00:51:13,613 --> 00:51:16,853
Speaker 20: years with certain things, my son had an old BMW

1043
00:51:17,173 --> 00:51:20,292
Speaker 20: M three which cost a fortune to get fixed.

1044
00:51:20,333 --> 00:51:20,813
Speaker 17: Every time it.

1045
00:51:20,733 --> 00:51:22,173
Speaker 20: Breaked down, and every time it was a warrant, it

1046
00:51:22,213 --> 00:51:24,893
Speaker 20: was another three or four thousand dollars. I'd take it

1047
00:51:24,893 --> 00:51:27,413
Speaker 20: an air. And I said, look, because it wasn't a

1048
00:51:27,493 --> 00:51:32,053
Speaker 20: daily driver car, hobby car, I said to one time

1049
00:51:32,053 --> 00:51:34,253
Speaker 20: it needed a clutch and something doing. I said, just

1050
00:51:34,293 --> 00:51:36,733
Speaker 20: when you get time and your time, can you do

1051
00:51:36,773 --> 00:51:38,453
Speaker 20: that for me? If you're not busy, you can have

1052
00:51:38,533 --> 00:51:40,173
Speaker 20: it for a month if you need it. And of

1053
00:51:40,173 --> 00:51:42,413
Speaker 20: course that cost me less than a thousand dollars instead

1054
00:51:42,413 --> 00:51:44,773
Speaker 20: of two thousand dollars, because when they went busy, they

1055
00:51:44,773 --> 00:51:46,773
Speaker 20: filled their time in on that and they did have

1056
00:51:46,853 --> 00:51:48,533
Speaker 20: the car for three or four weeks. But I didn't

1057
00:51:48,573 --> 00:51:50,813
Speaker 20: mind that because it saved your money. So that's worked

1058
00:51:50,813 --> 00:51:53,133
Speaker 20: out quite well, except for when I do need something

1059
00:51:53,293 --> 00:51:55,213
Speaker 20: doing and I rang up in a book and I

1060
00:51:55,773 --> 00:52:01,213
Speaker 20: actually not till after Christmas sort of thing, you know, Okay,

1061
00:52:01,733 --> 00:52:02,773
Speaker 20: But I mean I don't mind that.

1062
00:52:03,013 --> 00:52:04,573
Speaker 2: You said, I guess if you're if you're a good,

1063
00:52:04,653 --> 00:52:06,693
Speaker 2: honest mechanic, then you're going to get a lot of business,

1064
00:52:06,693 --> 00:52:06,973
Speaker 2: aren't you.

1065
00:52:07,133 --> 00:52:09,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to have the family mechanic, like the

1066
00:52:09,213 --> 00:52:11,013
Speaker 3: family doctor. Really, isn't it. That's what it's going to

1067
00:52:11,053 --> 00:52:14,732
Speaker 3: be that's what I think. This is like, yeah, yeah,

1068
00:52:14,893 --> 00:52:15,533
Speaker 3: but that's the thing.

1069
00:52:15,573 --> 00:52:16,973
Speaker 2: Like, so when you took to these sort of big

1070
00:52:16,973 --> 00:52:20,613
Speaker 2: brand car dealership service centers, you would take them there

1071
00:52:20,653 --> 00:52:24,133
Speaker 2: because you feel like they are you know, they they

1072
00:52:24,253 --> 00:52:25,213
Speaker 2: should be trusted.

1073
00:52:25,253 --> 00:52:27,453
Speaker 3: But they've got a brand protect They're.

1074
00:52:27,293 --> 00:52:29,373
Speaker 2: Not just a garage down a side street. These guys

1075
00:52:29,453 --> 00:52:32,692
Speaker 2: have got big, big, big flash. They've got the name

1076
00:52:32,813 --> 00:52:35,253
Speaker 2: of the car that you bought on there, so you

1077
00:52:35,253 --> 00:52:38,493
Speaker 2: trust them, and then and then they they absolutely pin

1078
00:52:38,613 --> 00:52:41,013
Speaker 2: you and you start to think, well, you know, part

1079
00:52:41,013 --> 00:52:42,373
Speaker 2: of their selling you the car because you go and

1080
00:52:42,413 --> 00:52:44,413
Speaker 2: buy the car they talk about an amazing carriacter is

1081
00:52:44,413 --> 00:52:46,373
Speaker 2: And this is what I said in my second service

1082
00:52:46,413 --> 00:52:48,293
Speaker 2: of my car. I was like, well, did you sell

1083
00:52:48,293 --> 00:52:50,133
Speaker 2: me a rubbish car because I bought it new off you?

1084
00:52:50,413 --> 00:52:50,652
Speaker 3: Yep.

1085
00:52:51,413 --> 00:52:53,693
Speaker 2: But but you start to wonder is that part of

1086
00:52:54,373 --> 00:52:56,853
Speaker 2: their their their their structure and how they make the money.

1087
00:52:57,253 --> 00:52:59,053
Speaker 2: Is they that they sell you the car and then

1088
00:52:59,093 --> 00:53:01,733
Speaker 2: they know they're going to make this much extra profit

1089
00:53:01,813 --> 00:53:03,333
Speaker 2: on the servicing of the car.

1090
00:53:03,453 --> 00:53:05,213
Speaker 3: It must be. Yeah, some great teams coming through a

1091
00:53:05,253 --> 00:53:07,732
Speaker 3: nine two ninety two. Guys, it is worse if you're

1092
00:53:07,773 --> 00:53:10,253
Speaker 3: a woman in the past, I've taken my car to

1093
00:53:10,293 --> 00:53:12,173
Speaker 3: on mechanics and they give you a long list of

1094
00:53:12,213 --> 00:53:15,493
Speaker 3: things to fix or cost much higher. My brother takes

1095
00:53:15,493 --> 00:53:18,253
Speaker 3: the same car to the mechanics and the listing costs

1096
00:53:18,333 --> 00:53:19,973
Speaker 3: is much less. Go figure from Faie.

1097
00:53:20,053 --> 00:53:24,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's exactly what happened with with my ex partner.

1098
00:53:24,373 --> 00:53:26,733
Speaker 2: So she did that, and then she took her brother

1099
00:53:26,853 --> 00:53:29,813
Speaker 2: in and her brother just absolutely ripped them a new one.

1100
00:53:29,933 --> 00:53:33,693
Speaker 2: Yeah for doing that, and that that was a reputable,

1101
00:53:34,133 --> 00:53:37,773
Speaker 2: well you know, supposedly reputable, big name firm.

1102
00:53:37,973 --> 00:53:38,172
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1103
00:53:38,413 --> 00:53:41,172
Speaker 2: And if your brothers can just come in and rip

1104
00:53:41,213 --> 00:53:44,293
Speaker 2: you a new one and they back down that much money, yeah,

1105
00:53:44,413 --> 00:53:47,373
Speaker 2: then what hoped idiots like you and me like Tyler

1106
00:53:47,373 --> 00:53:49,053
Speaker 2: that talk about Nissan.

1107
00:53:48,773 --> 00:53:52,133
Speaker 3: Corollas may have sent me and say, excuse me, I

1108
00:53:52,173 --> 00:53:54,692
Speaker 3: know my miss and Corolla like nobody house. It does

1109
00:53:54,733 --> 00:53:55,613
Speaker 3: not cost that much?

1110
00:53:56,053 --> 00:53:57,853
Speaker 2: Is that what you're charging? My boyfriend will come in,

1111
00:53:58,733 --> 00:54:02,172
Speaker 2: he'll drivers Nissan Corolla up and he'll tell you, tell

1112
00:54:02,213 --> 00:54:04,973
Speaker 2: you exactly how you're ripping me off.

1113
00:54:05,173 --> 00:54:07,212
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is and number

1114
00:54:07,213 --> 00:54:09,613
Speaker 3: to call love the hair your experience in this field.

1115
00:54:09,693 --> 00:54:11,973
Speaker 3: It is twenty three past two.

1116
00:54:16,773 --> 00:54:20,213
Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred and

1117
00:54:20,213 --> 00:54:22,133
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news talk said be.

1118
00:54:22,493 --> 00:54:23,893
Speaker 3: Twenty five past two.

1119
00:54:24,533 --> 00:54:27,533
Speaker 2: So I was I was asking before why if you

1120
00:54:27,853 --> 00:54:31,493
Speaker 2: take it to a big brand service center, why the

1121
00:54:31,533 --> 00:54:36,133
Speaker 2: individual mechanic would would would you know, rip you off?

1122
00:54:36,133 --> 00:54:38,213
Speaker 2: And someone's saying here will the mechanics get a commission?

1123
00:54:38,693 --> 00:54:40,013
Speaker 2: So how much money they bring? And I don't know

1124
00:54:40,013 --> 00:54:41,773
Speaker 2: if that's true or not, but someone's saying that. On

1125
00:54:41,853 --> 00:54:44,613
Speaker 2: nine two ninety two text mess machine is going off

1126
00:54:44,613 --> 00:54:46,373
Speaker 2: with a lot of calls on eight hundred and eighty

1127
00:54:46,373 --> 00:54:50,613
Speaker 2: ten eighty this text here. My daughter bought a Suzuki Jimney.

1128
00:54:50,693 --> 00:54:53,453
Speaker 2: I love a humble Jimney. Got the first two services

1129
00:54:53,453 --> 00:54:55,373
Speaker 2: done by the dealer six hundred dollars for the service,

1130
00:54:55,813 --> 00:54:58,453
Speaker 2: and now local guy services a car for three hundred dollars.

1131
00:54:58,773 --> 00:55:01,053
Speaker 2: Dealer rang her and told her it needed a service.

1132
00:55:01,333 --> 00:55:03,493
Speaker 2: She told them it had been done. The dealer said,

1133
00:55:03,493 --> 00:55:06,133
Speaker 2: because they didn't do the service, the warranty was now

1134
00:55:06,173 --> 00:55:08,613
Speaker 2: three years instead of five. So that got you by the.

1135
00:55:08,573 --> 00:55:11,573
Speaker 3: Testin dirty buggers. I've got a question if you get

1136
00:55:11,573 --> 00:55:14,813
Speaker 3: a quote from your mechanic or to get a service

1137
00:55:15,293 --> 00:55:18,133
Speaker 3: and they don't stick to that quote. Have I got

1138
00:55:18,173 --> 00:55:21,613
Speaker 3: any rights in that situation? So they give me the

1139
00:55:21,653 --> 00:55:23,613
Speaker 3: quote and say we're going to do this, this, this,

1140
00:55:23,653 --> 00:55:26,173
Speaker 3: and this, and then they go and do work that

1141
00:55:26,253 --> 00:55:29,013
Speaker 3: I didn't ask for or know about. Can I go

1142
00:55:29,053 --> 00:55:30,573
Speaker 3: back to them say excuse me, you didn't tell me

1143
00:55:30,573 --> 00:55:31,212
Speaker 3: you're going to do that.

1144
00:55:31,453 --> 00:55:34,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, And in my experience, they send you you know that.

1145
00:55:35,693 --> 00:55:37,853
Speaker 2: In my experience, they send you through a list of

1146
00:55:37,973 --> 00:55:41,013
Speaker 2: insane things they're going to do. Yeah, and then you

1147
00:55:41,013 --> 00:55:43,133
Speaker 2: can either say use or no. But I guess if

1148
00:55:43,453 --> 00:55:44,652
Speaker 2: you're not going to get the service, you're not going

1149
00:55:44,693 --> 00:55:46,133
Speaker 2: to get the warrant, and it's not going to uphold

1150
00:55:46,133 --> 00:55:49,173
Speaker 2: the warranty. Yeah. I don't know how much can you

1151
00:55:49,213 --> 00:55:49,893
Speaker 2: push back? Yeah?

1152
00:55:49,933 --> 00:55:52,133
Speaker 3: Exactly, Chris. You want to have a chat about warranties

1153
00:55:52,133 --> 00:55:52,533
Speaker 3: and cars?

1154
00:55:54,013 --> 00:55:54,212
Speaker 12: Oh?

1155
00:55:54,373 --> 00:55:56,613
Speaker 7: Yeah, good, Hey guys. Anything you want to know, I'll

1156
00:55:56,613 --> 00:56:00,093
Speaker 7: give you the answer. New cars to start with, I've

1157
00:56:00,133 --> 00:56:03,253
Speaker 7: doing quite a few new cars, mainly Ford and mainly

1158
00:56:03,333 --> 00:56:07,253
Speaker 7: General Motors, and I've had lots of argibargi with the

1159
00:56:07,333 --> 00:56:11,133
Speaker 7: motor companies, with a major dealers, mainly in Autant. The

1160
00:56:11,253 --> 00:56:13,013
Speaker 7: short end of it is that if you buy a

1161
00:56:13,093 --> 00:56:15,613
Speaker 7: new car, you're not obligated to the dealer to take

1162
00:56:15,653 --> 00:56:18,693
Speaker 7: it there to service. You're only obligated to go to

1163
00:56:18,773 --> 00:56:21,893
Speaker 7: the dealer if it's a warranty claim. As far as

1164
00:56:21,973 --> 00:56:25,133
Speaker 7: the motor companies are concerned, whether it's Ford or GM

1165
00:56:25,293 --> 00:56:29,333
Speaker 7: or whoever. If you read the fine print and everything

1166
00:56:29,373 --> 00:56:32,213
Speaker 7: you want to know about warranties, all it says is

1167
00:56:32,213 --> 00:56:35,413
Speaker 7: as long as it's been serviced by an authorized mechanic

1168
00:56:36,093 --> 00:56:40,172
Speaker 7: and you're using the approved lubricants. That's the crucial one.

1169
00:56:40,533 --> 00:56:44,493
Speaker 7: To approved lubricants, your Kosha. You do not have to

1170
00:56:44,533 --> 00:56:47,413
Speaker 7: take your car to the dealer to get it serviced

1171
00:56:47,453 --> 00:56:49,413
Speaker 7: if it's brand new. If you think you do, you've

1172
00:56:49,413 --> 00:56:50,973
Speaker 7: been ripped off way what it So.

1173
00:56:51,573 --> 00:56:54,013
Speaker 2: This person here with the Suzukney Jimmy that we were

1174
00:56:54,053 --> 00:56:56,293
Speaker 2: just talking about for did you hear that Chris so

1175
00:56:56,933 --> 00:56:59,973
Speaker 2: went to the dealer and then went WHICHUS six hundred

1176
00:57:00,013 --> 00:57:02,013
Speaker 2: So went to another service center and then they said

1177
00:57:02,013 --> 00:57:04,613
Speaker 2: that the warranty was now knocked down to three from five?

1178
00:57:04,733 --> 00:57:06,893
Speaker 2: Is that not true? They have they been running a

1179
00:57:06,893 --> 00:57:10,533
Speaker 2: bit of a of a sneaky on on this this

1180
00:57:10,813 --> 00:57:11,853
Speaker 2: this woman.

1181
00:57:12,853 --> 00:57:16,013
Speaker 7: Well, possibly not to say because you haven't told me

1182
00:57:16,053 --> 00:57:20,733
Speaker 7: whether the car is new brand that. There's a gazillion

1183
00:57:20,853 --> 00:57:24,053
Speaker 7: gemony's in New Zealand. They're all Japanese imports. And sometimes

1184
00:57:24,053 --> 00:57:27,653
Speaker 7: with these Japanese important cars, because they're not new, they've

1185
00:57:27,653 --> 00:57:31,173
Speaker 7: got different criteria for the warranty. But I'll give you

1186
00:57:31,213 --> 00:57:35,333
Speaker 7: one example with Ford. I had a Ford car brand

1187
00:57:35,333 --> 00:57:40,293
Speaker 7: new and an eight speed auto into service speed Auto.

1188
00:57:40,373 --> 00:57:43,493
Speaker 7: You better sit down for this. It was thirteen hundred

1189
00:57:43,573 --> 00:57:48,053
Speaker 7: dollars to service the auto. I went to a very

1190
00:57:48,133 --> 00:57:54,173
Speaker 7: refutable transmission company called Casper. They're about the best in

1191
00:57:54,253 --> 00:57:58,133
Speaker 7: the country. They did the same for five hundred bucks.

1192
00:57:59,653 --> 00:58:02,813
Speaker 3: Wow. But is that right, Chris? Because I've got a

1193
00:58:02,853 --> 00:58:04,693
Speaker 3: new Karen. I'm not going to say what brand it is,

1194
00:58:05,293 --> 00:58:07,213
Speaker 3: but it's got to go in for the service. And

1195
00:58:07,293 --> 00:58:09,813
Speaker 3: part of that is it maintains the warranty that I've

1196
00:58:09,853 --> 00:58:11,893
Speaker 3: got with that new vehicle, and it has to go

1197
00:58:11,973 --> 00:58:15,333
Speaker 3: to a specific mechanics to maintain that warranty. You're telling

1198
00:58:15,333 --> 00:58:16,613
Speaker 3: me I don't have to do that. I would never

1199
00:58:16,693 --> 00:58:17,573
Speaker 3: lead to standal.

1200
00:58:17,933 --> 00:58:21,253
Speaker 7: No, no, no, I'm telling you no way you have

1201
00:58:21,373 --> 00:58:24,933
Speaker 7: to take. You're a brand new car. No RADI the

1202
00:58:25,013 --> 00:58:28,493
Speaker 7: dealer service the bottom line and the fine prind is

1203
00:58:28,573 --> 00:58:31,893
Speaker 7: that it's got to be serviced by obviously a certified mechanic.

1204
00:58:31,933 --> 00:58:35,133
Speaker 7: But the all they're concerned about is that you're using

1205
00:58:35,213 --> 00:58:40,133
Speaker 7: the approved lubricant and sometimes they get your example forward

1206
00:58:41,173 --> 00:58:44,293
Speaker 7: the improved lubricant they used in one of my vehicles,

1207
00:58:44,293 --> 00:58:48,253
Speaker 7: which was a Castrale product. The actual product, you couldn't

1208
00:58:48,253 --> 00:58:52,573
Speaker 7: get it anywhere else Clever. It's actually supplied to the

1209
00:58:52,573 --> 00:58:55,053
Speaker 7: Forward dealer network. But I managed to find a way

1210
00:58:55,093 --> 00:58:57,813
Speaker 7: to get around it because they only say that it's

1211
00:58:57,813 --> 00:59:00,493
Speaker 7: got to be, you know, meet the standard. So once

1212
00:59:00,533 --> 00:59:02,493
Speaker 7: you find out what the standard is of the oil,

1213
00:59:02,573 --> 00:59:04,613
Speaker 7: you can find another brand. It doesn't matter as long

1214
00:59:04,613 --> 00:59:06,493
Speaker 7: as it meets spectification.

1215
00:59:06,973 --> 00:59:07,173
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1216
00:59:07,373 --> 00:59:09,733
Speaker 2: Right, See, this is the stuff that people that know

1217
00:59:09,813 --> 00:59:13,813
Speaker 2: about cars can can do and can understand. But say,

1218
00:59:13,893 --> 00:59:19,133
Speaker 2: as you said before, that charged attempted to be charged

1219
00:59:19,173 --> 00:59:21,253
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred dollars, but but could have been done for

1220
00:59:21,333 --> 00:59:24,213
Speaker 2: five hundred. When you find that out, where can you

1221
00:59:24,253 --> 00:59:27,493
Speaker 2: go with that? Is this some I mean, what do

1222
00:59:27,533 --> 00:59:28,933
Speaker 2: you what do you do with that? I mean you

1223
00:59:28,933 --> 00:59:32,253
Speaker 2: can go to the other business, but but yeah, you

1224
00:59:32,293 --> 00:59:34,013
Speaker 2: complain to somebody to take that up?

1225
00:59:34,093 --> 00:59:35,493
Speaker 15: What what what I did?

1226
00:59:35,533 --> 00:59:37,573
Speaker 7: And I'll give it I went back to the dealer.

1227
00:59:37,613 --> 00:59:40,013
Speaker 7: It was the biggest sport dealer in Auckland. I won't wait.

1228
00:59:40,093 --> 00:59:43,773
Speaker 7: So who they are? How can you justify the thirteen

1229
00:59:43,853 --> 00:59:47,173
Speaker 7: hundred dollars plus? And what they told me it was

1230
00:59:47,213 --> 00:59:49,813
Speaker 7: an eight speed order and it took eight liters of

1231
00:59:49,853 --> 00:59:52,773
Speaker 7: oil and they said the oil was one hundred dollars

1232
00:59:52,773 --> 00:59:53,093
Speaker 7: a week.

1233
00:59:54,573 --> 00:59:56,213
Speaker 3: Wow, some good oil.

1234
00:59:56,373 --> 00:59:58,293
Speaker 7: Eight hundred bucks of oil.

1235
00:59:58,333 --> 00:59:59,293
Speaker 15: But I found.

1236
00:59:58,973 --> 01:00:03,373
Speaker 7: Out they were charging at that rate because of the market.

1237
01:00:03,453 --> 01:00:03,853
Speaker 7: That's there.

1238
01:00:03,853 --> 01:00:04,293
Speaker 14: They get you.

1239
01:00:05,773 --> 01:00:06,813
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah.

1240
01:00:07,013 --> 01:00:11,333
Speaker 7: Interesting, Yeah, And just finally with that oil, I actually

1241
01:00:11,333 --> 01:00:15,293
Speaker 7: found out what it was the specification, and I went

1242
01:00:15,333 --> 01:00:17,573
Speaker 7: and bought it a ristcoat for less than half the price.

1243
01:00:18,133 --> 01:00:21,373
Speaker 3: M yeah, I mean I can see that. But what

1244
01:00:21,413 --> 01:00:24,333
Speaker 3: you're basically saying, Chris is I'm I've got me by

1245
01:00:24,333 --> 01:00:26,213
Speaker 3: the Short and Curlys. If they're the only one that

1246
01:00:26,253 --> 01:00:29,453
Speaker 3: stocks a particular lubricant, lubricant that must be used on

1247
01:00:29,493 --> 01:00:32,333
Speaker 3: my vehicle. If nobody else has that, then I'm poked.

1248
01:00:32,333 --> 01:00:33,013
Speaker 3: I've got to go to them.

1249
01:00:33,053 --> 01:00:34,373
Speaker 2: But you're saying if you get that, if you get

1250
01:00:34,373 --> 01:00:37,573
Speaker 2: the same spec lubricant, it can't be a brand. Think

1251
01:00:37,653 --> 01:00:38,853
Speaker 2: in it. It's crazy.

1252
01:00:38,933 --> 01:00:42,413
Speaker 7: I know, it's it's the spec and they don't like it.

1253
01:00:42,613 --> 01:00:44,013
Speaker 7: I mean, you've got to go top of the tree.

1254
01:00:44,053 --> 01:00:45,373
Speaker 7: I mean I went top of the tree in the

1255
01:00:45,373 --> 01:00:47,413
Speaker 7: Ford Made Company in New Zealands. I had it out

1256
01:00:47,453 --> 01:00:49,493
Speaker 7: with them and they said to me that listen, you

1257
01:00:49,493 --> 01:00:51,253
Speaker 7: don't have to go to the dealer network. You can

1258
01:00:51,253 --> 01:00:52,893
Speaker 7: get it service as long as you use and they

1259
01:00:52,933 --> 01:00:55,533
Speaker 7: approved or the right specification of the lubricant.

1260
01:00:55,533 --> 01:00:58,933
Speaker 3: Men to story it interesting, but that's only with new cars.

1261
01:00:59,893 --> 01:01:00,093
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1262
01:01:00,213 --> 01:01:01,173
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a new car.

1263
01:01:01,373 --> 01:01:01,573
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1264
01:01:01,653 --> 01:01:03,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, so's it's a different if you buy a secondhand

1265
01:01:03,893 --> 01:01:05,893
Speaker 2: car and then and then go into the.

1266
01:01:06,133 --> 01:01:10,253
Speaker 7: Whatever service wearanties are tokenly different. I mean the secondhand

1267
01:01:10,253 --> 01:01:15,453
Speaker 7: car they screw you. They do tie you into a network.

1268
01:01:15,773 --> 01:01:18,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because you know you're buying it from them,

1269
01:01:19,213 --> 01:01:22,893
Speaker 2: and so it's their warranty. Yeah, as opposed to the

1270
01:01:22,933 --> 01:01:24,893
Speaker 2: wider in your case, Ford warranty.

1271
01:01:26,173 --> 01:01:28,213
Speaker 7: Yeah. The other thing is with the new car. I

1272
01:01:28,333 --> 01:01:30,413
Speaker 7: mean no, I had to go back many many times

1273
01:01:30,453 --> 01:01:32,333
Speaker 7: because there are cars over the years, I mean, the

1274
01:01:32,373 --> 01:01:36,053
Speaker 7: warranty claims were off the planet. And the only only

1275
01:01:36,093 --> 01:01:38,253
Speaker 7: way you can get a warranty claim dealt with is

1276
01:01:38,293 --> 01:01:41,213
Speaker 7: you've got to go back to the dealer. You know,

1277
01:01:41,293 --> 01:01:44,893
Speaker 7: the Big fourteen or G or whoever. And because you

1278
01:01:44,933 --> 01:01:47,093
Speaker 7: know another mechanic can't handle it. So unless you've got

1279
01:01:47,093 --> 01:01:50,053
Speaker 7: a problem that's a warranty claim, you don't need to

1280
01:01:50,093 --> 01:01:51,253
Speaker 7: go at all.

1281
01:01:51,493 --> 01:01:54,773
Speaker 3: Interesting, Chris, great to chat right coming up after the

1282
01:01:54,773 --> 01:01:57,813
Speaker 3: headlines we've got it appears to be a mechanic who

1283
01:01:57,893 --> 01:02:00,613
Speaker 3: has had thirty years in the trade, so plenty of

1284
01:02:00,733 --> 01:02:06,853
Speaker 3: questions to put to him. It is twenty seven to three.

1285
01:02:06,813 --> 01:02:10,373
Speaker 12: You talk said the headline with blue bubble taxis it's

1286
01:02:10,413 --> 01:02:13,093
Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. A one hundred and

1287
01:02:13,253 --> 01:02:17,293
Speaker 12: fifteen million dollar government investment in Solent zero is now

1288
01:02:17,333 --> 01:02:20,853
Speaker 12: on the line, with the company going into liquidation. Employees

1289
01:02:20,853 --> 01:02:25,093
Speaker 12: are protesting outside owner Black Rocks Auckland office after being

1290
01:02:25,093 --> 01:02:29,133
Speaker 12: caught in limbo over pay. Finance Minister Nikola Willis says

1291
01:02:29,133 --> 01:02:33,453
Speaker 12: she is seeking urgent advice on the situation. Auckland school

1292
01:02:33,493 --> 01:02:37,613
Speaker 12: Saint cuth College is evacuated after a reported chemical spill.

1293
01:02:38,013 --> 01:02:42,133
Speaker 12: Emergency services were called around twelve point thirty. A spokesperson

1294
01:02:42,213 --> 01:02:46,773
Speaker 12: says they are consulting with Queensland Fire Rescue's Scientific branch

1295
01:02:47,133 --> 01:02:51,453
Speaker 12: on hazard substance spills. The lead claimants behind a whit

1296
01:02:51,533 --> 01:02:55,813
Speaker 12: Tangy Tribunal complaint against shuttering the Maori Health Authority so

1297
01:02:55,933 --> 01:02:59,253
Speaker 12: the Crown ought to be ashamed. The tribunal is urging

1298
01:02:59,373 --> 01:03:04,653
Speaker 12: the Coalition government to reconsider creating a standalone authority. A

1299
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Speaker 12: major west coast highway will reopen again overnight after being

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Speaker 12: plagued by rock fall and slips. State Highway Sex between

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Speaker 12: Hearst and Late Moraki has been opened during the day

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Speaker 12: with restrictions and has now been given a safety green light.

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Speaker 3: What TJ.

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01:03:21,133 --> 01:03:24,893
Speaker 12: Perinadez Harker tells us about New Zealand. You can see

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01:03:24,893 --> 01:03:27,573
Speaker 12: the full column at ind It here all premium. Now

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01:03:27,613 --> 01:03:29,813
Speaker 12: back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Susie is twenty three to three.

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Speaker 3: And now I mentioned before that we've got a mechanic

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01:03:33,933 --> 01:03:36,453
Speaker 3: who's called and he said thirty years in the trades.

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Speaker 3: Due get a.

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01:03:38,333 --> 01:03:40,533
Speaker 15: Well, there's your first mistake. I was never a mechanic, guys.

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01:03:40,533 --> 01:03:41,573
Speaker 15: I was never that suitable.

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01:03:41,813 --> 01:03:43,613
Speaker 3: All right, I've got a week note. You're saying that

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01:03:43,653 --> 01:03:45,333
Speaker 3: you've had thirty years in the trade, but not as

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01:03:45,333 --> 01:03:45,733
Speaker 3: a mechanic.

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01:03:45,853 --> 01:03:47,973
Speaker 15: Thirty years in the trade. Yeah, he is the trade

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01:03:48,213 --> 01:03:50,853
Speaker 15: on the sales side. Oh yeah, Chris was half of

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01:03:50,853 --> 01:03:52,253
Speaker 15: the reason I got out of it because he was

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01:03:52,293 --> 01:03:57,533
Speaker 15: an expert. The motor trader was never in it. Unbelievable.

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01:03:58,493 --> 01:04:00,933
Speaker 15: So so here's let me dispel some rumors for you.

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01:04:01,013 --> 01:04:01,333
Speaker 3: Please.

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01:04:01,453 --> 01:04:04,573
Speaker 15: It's always the dealer's fault. Well, that's the case because

1323
01:04:04,653 --> 01:04:06,973
Speaker 15: dealers are locked into that many contracts. It's not funny.

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01:04:07,253 --> 01:04:09,533
Speaker 15: As soon as you put up a friend chose agreement sign.

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01:04:10,053 --> 01:04:11,733
Speaker 15: In other words, as soon as you become a dealer

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01:04:11,773 --> 01:04:14,453
Speaker 15: for a brand, never mind what brand, they're all the same.

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01:04:15,773 --> 01:04:18,613
Speaker 15: You're basically target driven and you are locked into supply

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01:04:18,613 --> 01:04:22,653
Speaker 15: agremments for oil minimum requirements, filter's minimum requirements, spark plugs,

1329
01:04:22,733 --> 01:04:25,453
Speaker 15: you know, the whole nine yards, and you have to

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01:04:25,493 --> 01:04:28,773
Speaker 15: buy that brand because you are that brand. If you don't,

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01:04:28,813 --> 01:04:30,533
Speaker 15: you don't make any money. And if you don't hit

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Speaker 15: your parts target, your oil target, your sales target, your

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01:04:32,893 --> 01:04:35,253
Speaker 15: workship target, and you won only claim target, you don't

1334
01:04:35,253 --> 01:04:36,933
Speaker 15: make any money. Are you following the trend?

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Speaker 17: Ye?

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Speaker 2: Yet there is there is a lot there and I'm

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01:04:41,333 --> 01:04:43,773
Speaker 2: sorry sorry to interrupt you. There astute. This is with new,

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01:04:43,893 --> 01:04:44,893
Speaker 2: new new purchases.

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Speaker 15: Of course, the new side US is different again, we'll

1340
01:04:47,453 --> 01:04:47,933
Speaker 15: go there later.

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01:04:48,013 --> 01:04:48,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got time.

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01:04:50,973 --> 01:04:51,893
Speaker 17: Yeah, we get time.

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Speaker 3: You must have sold a lot of cars. You're very good.

1344
01:04:54,213 --> 01:04:54,813
Speaker 3: Yeah you ghost.

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01:04:55,933 --> 01:05:00,853
Speaker 15: Well, yeah, you learn, and you have to learn quick.

1346
01:05:00,973 --> 01:05:02,853
Speaker 15: I mean, but you also learn that if you don't

1347
01:05:02,853 --> 01:05:04,893
Speaker 15: do it right and you don't stand by people, you

1348
01:05:04,973 --> 01:05:08,093
Speaker 15: don't do that. He is It's it's as simple as that.

1349
01:05:08,173 --> 01:05:11,493
Speaker 15: I it wasn't in large city stuff. So large city dealerships.

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01:05:11,493 --> 01:05:15,973
Speaker 15: I mean, the rent alone is millions, you know, it's not.

1351
01:05:16,093 --> 01:05:17,933
Speaker 15: This isn't chicken feed. And these guys have got to

1352
01:05:17,933 --> 01:05:19,893
Speaker 15: make money somewhere, because when you want to go back

1353
01:05:19,893 --> 01:05:21,813
Speaker 15: to bitch and whins and bone because something's gone wrong

1354
01:05:21,813 --> 01:05:23,893
Speaker 15: because you're disappointed, they're not all that happy that you're

1355
01:05:23,893 --> 01:05:27,613
Speaker 15: coming back compone either, because they don't want you disappointed.

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01:05:28,253 --> 01:05:31,573
Speaker 15: So this is a double edge sword. But it's not

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01:05:31,613 --> 01:05:33,573
Speaker 15: necessarily the dealer that's tripping you off. Have a look

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01:05:33,573 --> 01:05:36,333
Speaker 15: at the brand, because they're the ones that are supplying

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01:05:37,013 --> 01:05:40,213
Speaker 15: the dealers. So the dealer can't go to ripcom by

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01:05:40,253 --> 01:05:43,133
Speaker 15: cheap oil. Yeah, the same oil. Oil is oil. It's

1361
01:05:43,173 --> 01:05:44,613
Speaker 15: the you know, the grade of oil is the grade

1362
01:05:44,653 --> 01:05:47,293
Speaker 15: of oil. Nobiles might be blue, castroles might be green.

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01:05:48,173 --> 01:05:50,693
Speaker 15: Shells might be red but it's still ten W thirty.

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01:05:51,253 --> 01:05:53,293
Speaker 2: But Steve's from from the point from the point of

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01:05:53,373 --> 01:05:58,933
Speaker 2: view of the customer. They don't care that the dealer

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01:05:59,093 --> 01:06:02,973
Speaker 2: is assigned up to all these And so is it

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01:06:03,013 --> 01:06:05,373
Speaker 2: true that you can take it to an authorized mechanic

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01:06:05,453 --> 01:06:07,733
Speaker 2: yourself and still keep the warranty active.

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01:06:08,453 --> 01:06:11,213
Speaker 15: So you have to be a member of the MTA.

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01:06:11,813 --> 01:06:13,693
Speaker 15: That's one of the big things. If you're not a

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01:06:13,693 --> 01:06:16,333
Speaker 15: member of the MTA and you haven't got a service record,

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01:06:17,133 --> 01:06:19,773
Speaker 15: it's like insurance companies. You're giving me reasons not to

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01:06:19,853 --> 01:06:23,493
Speaker 15: help you. So and let's face it. The other thing

1374
01:06:23,613 --> 01:06:25,933
Speaker 15: is if you're going to spend, and it doesn't matter

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01:06:25,933 --> 01:06:28,693
Speaker 15: what brand you can spend. You know, let's say thirty

1376
01:06:28,693 --> 01:06:31,333
Speaker 15: grand on a suzurkis Weft or two hundred and thirty

1377
01:06:31,333 --> 01:06:32,933
Speaker 15: grand on a range Rover, and it's probably a cheap

1378
01:06:32,973 --> 01:06:36,973
Speaker 15: one of that. You know, it's a big purchase for

1379
01:06:37,253 --> 01:06:40,213
Speaker 15: each each person. How for some people are five thousands

1380
01:06:40,213 --> 01:06:42,453
Speaker 15: of the car is just as big a purchase because.

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01:06:42,293 --> 01:06:43,893
Speaker 3: There is a lot of money.

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01:06:44,213 --> 01:06:45,773
Speaker 15: You want to look after it. So do you want

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01:06:45,813 --> 01:06:48,013
Speaker 15: to take it to ten The technician who's fully qualified

1384
01:06:48,053 --> 01:06:50,213
Speaker 15: got the battery in the factory, the battery of backing

1385
01:06:50,373 --> 01:06:52,853
Speaker 15: and the training of Because I used to say to

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01:06:52,853 --> 01:06:54,373
Speaker 15: people when I was selling a pre owned car that

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01:06:54,573 --> 01:06:57,573
Speaker 15: wasn't our brand. Look you're buying a you know, X brand.

1388
01:06:57,893 --> 01:06:59,773
Speaker 15: Take it to X brand because they get all the

1389
01:06:59,773 --> 01:07:02,693
Speaker 15: bottos and that says, hey, look we've found it fifty

1390
01:07:02,733 --> 01:07:04,773
Speaker 15: thousand k's. If we do this at sixty thousand k's,

1391
01:07:04,813 --> 01:07:07,613
Speaker 15: this doesn't crap itself. But if you take it to

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01:07:07,613 --> 01:07:09,453
Speaker 15: ten the technician on the road who's very good at

1393
01:07:09,493 --> 01:07:11,653
Speaker 15: what he does or she does, don't get me wrong,

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01:07:11,733 --> 01:07:14,413
Speaker 15: they don't get that bullied. So are you going to

1395
01:07:14,493 --> 01:07:18,573
Speaker 15: get it service like greens and oil change or are

1396
01:07:18,573 --> 01:07:20,773
Speaker 15: you going to get it looked after. Now I'm not

1397
01:07:20,813 --> 01:07:22,853
Speaker 15: saying that the guys that who haven't got a franchise

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01:07:22,893 --> 01:07:24,773
Speaker 15: don't know what they're doing. They are great people and

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01:07:24,773 --> 01:07:26,333
Speaker 15: they do know what they're doing, and they will save

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01:07:26,413 --> 01:07:29,773
Speaker 15: his money. Yeah, but the warrant of fitness is that's

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01:07:29,813 --> 01:07:31,653
Speaker 15: a whole new kittle of fish. And so a lot

1402
01:07:31,693 --> 01:07:34,093
Speaker 15: of people think VTNZ is government backed.

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01:07:34,133 --> 01:07:34,373
Speaker 14: It's not.

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01:07:34,413 --> 01:07:37,413
Speaker 15: They're all independent. But if you issue a warrant and

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01:07:37,453 --> 01:07:40,413
Speaker 15: it's found out that something goes wrong, and you didn't

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01:07:40,453 --> 01:07:43,133
Speaker 15: spot it. The guy or girl who issues the warrant

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01:07:43,573 --> 01:07:45,613
Speaker 15: is then could lose their ticket, and that that is

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01:07:45,653 --> 01:07:49,093
Speaker 15: a huge revenue spinner for them. So there's a lot

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01:07:49,093 --> 01:07:51,893
Speaker 15: of it's like we're poking the bear.

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01:07:53,333 --> 01:07:55,613
Speaker 3: But she'd just been to the warranty situation because I

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01:07:55,653 --> 01:07:58,013
Speaker 3: wasn't quite clear on that. So I'm in the situation.

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01:07:58,133 --> 01:08:00,373
Speaker 3: I've got to take it to the authorized service center

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01:08:00,413 --> 01:08:03,213
Speaker 3: for my two yeah and cheer cup two year service.

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01:08:03,333 --> 01:08:04,973
Speaker 3: I know it's going to cost me quite a bit

1415
01:08:05,013 --> 01:08:07,693
Speaker 3: of money, and I didn't realize that when I purchased

1416
01:08:07,693 --> 01:08:09,493
Speaker 3: a vehicle. But that's the deal for the warranty, right.

1417
01:08:09,813 --> 01:08:11,813
Speaker 3: But you're telling me that I can go to an

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01:08:11,973 --> 01:08:15,973
Speaker 3: nt nta registered mechanic, and I would still be able

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01:08:16,053 --> 01:08:17,933
Speaker 3: to keep that warranty.

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01:08:18,093 --> 01:08:19,532
Speaker 15: You should be able to. I mean, at the end

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01:08:19,572 --> 01:08:21,812
Speaker 15: of the day, two years older, this thing crapped itself,

1422
01:08:22,333 --> 01:08:25,333
Speaker 15: you know, drops this lunch, something major goes wrong, I'd

1423
01:08:25,372 --> 01:08:29,213
Speaker 15: be asking, I mean, it's mechanical bad luck, because I

1424
01:08:29,253 --> 01:08:31,412
Speaker 15: don't care. I mean, I only represented a very small

1425
01:08:31,492 --> 01:08:34,052
Speaker 15: number of brands in those thirty years. One I represented

1426
01:08:34,053 --> 01:08:36,253
Speaker 15: for twenty four years, and I can tell it now

1427
01:08:36,293 --> 01:08:39,013
Speaker 15: if it didn't have a problem within the first ten

1428
01:08:39,053 --> 01:08:43,293
Speaker 15: thousand k's, you're probably the chances are unless you're either

1429
01:08:43,372 --> 01:08:47,492
Speaker 15: an idiot, be you abuse it, it's probably going to

1430
01:08:47,532 --> 01:08:49,732
Speaker 15: do two hundred thousand case. You know, it's a modern car.

1431
01:08:49,933 --> 01:08:51,333
Speaker 2: Unfortunately on both of those.

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01:08:53,333 --> 01:08:56,652
Speaker 15: So you have to be you have to you know,

1433
01:08:56,692 --> 01:09:02,053
Speaker 15: it's bad luck. But again, yeah, I just think you know,

1434
01:09:02,372 --> 01:09:04,492
Speaker 15: I now know because I have to buy my own car,

1435
01:09:04,532 --> 01:09:06,532
Speaker 15: which is a little bit risky when you get out of.

1436
01:09:06,532 --> 01:09:06,852
Speaker 21: The car game.

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01:09:06,893 --> 01:09:11,213
Speaker 15: The first thing was to caring home. This is not

1438
01:09:11,213 --> 01:09:12,333
Speaker 15: good on an US anymore.

1439
01:09:12,333 --> 01:09:13,732
Speaker 14: What do you mean you're taking the fuel cars?

1440
01:09:15,532 --> 01:09:17,013
Speaker 17: So you know I now know that.

1441
01:09:17,133 --> 01:09:18,892
Speaker 15: Okay, I want my car, lob dass and no, I

1442
01:09:18,893 --> 01:09:20,812
Speaker 15: don't want to be ripped off. And if let's face it,

1443
01:09:20,933 --> 01:09:22,652
Speaker 15: no one puts a gun to your heads and said

1444
01:09:22,772 --> 01:09:25,892
Speaker 15: you will be coming here to service a car. You

1445
01:09:25,893 --> 01:09:28,533
Speaker 15: can take it wherever you know you feel most comfortable.

1446
01:09:28,933 --> 01:09:30,972
Speaker 15: And there's nothing wrong with going in and saying, hey, look,

1447
01:09:31,013 --> 01:09:32,772
Speaker 15: I need you know, a train sported down or I

1448
01:09:32,812 --> 01:09:34,452
Speaker 15: need a pan of steering to go to the leak

1449
01:09:34,492 --> 01:09:36,652
Speaker 15: and you know, what do you think it is? Ask

1450
01:09:36,692 --> 01:09:40,452
Speaker 15: some questions because the other there was another comment somewhere

1451
01:09:40,492 --> 01:09:43,012
Speaker 15: someone said, oh, the mechanic gets a bonus. The mechanic

1452
01:09:43,013 --> 01:09:45,172
Speaker 15: get a bonus based on time and throughput.

1453
01:09:45,532 --> 01:09:48,253
Speaker 3: Right, So the more they do, and is that across

1454
01:09:48,293 --> 01:09:48,932
Speaker 3: all as.

1455
01:09:48,812 --> 01:09:49,732
Speaker 15: The productive they are.

1456
01:09:49,973 --> 01:09:52,372
Speaker 2: Is that across all all the is that across all

1457
01:09:52,732 --> 01:09:54,133
Speaker 2: the big service centers, all the.

1458
01:09:54,053 --> 01:09:58,012
Speaker 15: Brands most of the year because you want I mean,

1459
01:09:58,452 --> 01:10:00,732
Speaker 15: they start asking questions of you when you're not ninety

1460
01:10:00,772 --> 01:10:03,732
Speaker 15: two percent deficions right, you will get ninety two percent

1461
01:10:03,732 --> 01:10:05,293
Speaker 15: of your day. I mean it took me twenty seven

1462
01:10:05,293 --> 01:10:08,333
Speaker 15: minutes to get to you. I can tell you another deficians. Yeah,

1463
01:10:08,333 --> 01:10:10,732
Speaker 15: from a car game point of view, at ninety five

1464
01:10:10,772 --> 01:10:13,253
Speaker 15: percent they start smiling. And at ninety seven percent, yeah

1465
01:10:13,253 --> 01:10:16,133
Speaker 15: you're good. Yeah, ninety seven percent of an hour. There's

1466
01:10:16,173 --> 01:10:18,412
Speaker 15: not too many minutes you're not chadging out. You think

1467
01:10:18,452 --> 01:10:21,852
Speaker 15: about it. So these guys and they're cranked along some

1468
01:10:21,933 --> 01:10:24,973
Speaker 15: of them are. It's all performance based. It's got to

1469
01:10:25,013 --> 01:10:27,452
Speaker 15: be because of forty or fifty thousand dollars car. When

1470
01:10:27,452 --> 01:10:28,972
Speaker 15: you saiy that new you might only make a couple

1471
01:10:28,973 --> 01:10:29,612
Speaker 15: of grand an of it.

1472
01:10:29,853 --> 01:10:32,173
Speaker 2: Hey, Stuart, I want to I want to talk to

1473
01:10:32,213 --> 01:10:34,053
Speaker 2: you about the second hand thing. But we've we've just

1474
01:10:34,093 --> 01:10:36,692
Speaker 2: got to go away for a few minutes, can you

1475
01:10:36,772 --> 01:10:38,133
Speaker 2: Can you hold on the phone and we'll come come

1476
01:10:38,173 --> 01:10:40,173
Speaker 2: back to you in a couple of minutes.

1477
01:10:40,732 --> 01:10:42,013
Speaker 15: Yeah, as long as I can get a job on

1478
01:10:42,013 --> 01:10:43,972
Speaker 15: the radio industry if I get checked from this one here.

1479
01:10:44,652 --> 01:10:47,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dondale, you're already better than men Tyler. Yeah, all right,

1480
01:10:47,492 --> 01:10:49,933
Speaker 3: jennyin soon, stew Either and I for the people they

1481
01:10:49,933 --> 01:10:53,852
Speaker 3: are about to text in on nine. Man Tyler, it

1482
01:10:53,933 --> 01:10:55,252
Speaker 3: is sixteen to three.

1483
01:10:55,692 --> 01:10:59,812
Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon tour Man Heathen Taylor Adams

1484
01:10:59,853 --> 01:11:03,372
Speaker 1: Afternoon Call, oh eight one hundred eighty gen eighty News Talks.

1485
01:11:03,372 --> 01:11:03,812
Speaker 5: There'd be.

1486
01:11:05,333 --> 01:11:08,612
Speaker 2: Thanks for sticking around, Steve. So we're talking about a

1487
01:11:08,612 --> 01:11:13,293
Speaker 2: big brand car dealer service centers and whether that's a

1488
01:11:13,293 --> 01:11:16,292
Speaker 2: good deal. We talked a lot about the new car purchase.

1489
01:11:16,612 --> 01:11:20,412
Speaker 2: But now if we move on to secondhand warranties. You

1490
01:11:20,492 --> 01:11:22,732
Speaker 2: buy a car from from one of the one of

1491
01:11:22,772 --> 01:11:26,812
Speaker 2: these big places and then you enter their warranty situation.

1492
01:11:26,933 --> 01:11:27,933
Speaker 2: That's quite different, isn't it.

1493
01:11:28,053 --> 01:11:31,852
Speaker 22: Due Yeah, it depends on there's various different grades.

1494
01:11:31,893 --> 01:11:33,333
Speaker 20: There's the you.

1495
01:11:33,253 --> 01:11:36,772
Speaker 15: Know, you buy a warranty out of a book type scenario,

1496
01:11:37,013 --> 01:11:39,772
Speaker 15: which is I'm just going to name a brand because

1497
01:11:39,853 --> 01:11:42,092
Speaker 15: just to give people under your like Auto Show for example,

1498
01:11:42,173 --> 01:11:43,732
Speaker 15: or what used to be Wins. That was another one.

1499
01:11:45,893 --> 01:11:46,572
Speaker 2: So that was.

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01:11:47,492 --> 01:11:52,772
Speaker 15: Again it's it's a it's a it's an insurance, and

1501
01:11:52,812 --> 01:11:54,972
Speaker 15: there's obligations that you have to meet as an owner.

1502
01:11:55,253 --> 01:11:56,972
Speaker 15: You know, you have to get a service every six months,

1503
01:11:57,013 --> 01:12:00,572
Speaker 15: ten thousand CA's. Then there's the ones where the dealer

1504
01:12:00,612 --> 01:12:03,452
Speaker 15: will try and lock you into your own warranty that's

1505
01:12:03,812 --> 01:12:06,732
Speaker 15: administered to a company, and there's all sorts of hang

1506
01:12:06,812 --> 01:12:08,892
Speaker 15: ups and bits and pieces. But a lot of that,

1507
01:12:09,772 --> 01:12:12,173
Speaker 15: some of it's profit driven because basically they need the

1508
01:12:12,173 --> 01:12:14,892
Speaker 15: money to survive. I mean, don't don't get me wrong.

1509
01:12:16,452 --> 01:12:19,652
Speaker 15: I was thinking, you know, through the ad break, a

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01:12:19,772 --> 01:12:23,253
Speaker 15: cardula isn't necessarily your enemy. You know, at the end

1511
01:12:23,253 --> 01:12:27,133
Speaker 15: of the day, if a cardula, you know, you don't

1512
01:12:27,213 --> 01:12:29,132
Speaker 15: have to go back to the guy you brought it from.

1513
01:12:29,452 --> 01:12:31,013
Speaker 15: I'm just going to name the brand I used to

1514
01:12:31,013 --> 01:12:33,012
Speaker 15: be with for twenty four years because they don't exist anymore.

1515
01:12:33,013 --> 01:12:34,732
Speaker 15: So it's not going to hurt anyone. Go hold him

1516
01:12:34,732 --> 01:12:37,253
Speaker 15: around for a long long time, you know. Yeah, we're

1517
01:12:37,293 --> 01:12:39,933
Speaker 15: holding around for ages. There were I think at one

1518
01:12:39,973 --> 01:12:42,173
Speaker 15: point forty two dealers in New Zealand. So I was

1519
01:12:42,213 --> 01:12:44,133
Speaker 15: always going to buy a hold, but the local guy

1520
01:12:44,173 --> 01:12:46,412
Speaker 15: I thinks are twapped, So I'm going to down to

1521
01:12:46,412 --> 01:12:49,532
Speaker 15: buy one. I'm going to buy it, you know, yeah,

1522
01:12:49,893 --> 01:12:52,452
Speaker 15: the same thing, because it's all about personality and anyone

1523
01:12:52,492 --> 01:12:54,852
Speaker 15: can sell you that car or that warranty any make

1524
01:12:54,933 --> 01:12:58,892
Speaker 15: can I proved that I did it for thirty years

1525
01:12:59,053 --> 01:13:02,093
Speaker 15: and looking after it and getting you to come back.

1526
01:13:03,013 --> 01:13:05,972
Speaker 15: That's an artful make break.

1527
01:13:06,053 --> 01:13:07,932
Speaker 2: Now you're out of the thing is real key. Now

1528
01:13:07,933 --> 01:13:09,732
Speaker 2: you're out of the industry, and you you were in

1529
01:13:09,772 --> 01:13:11,932
Speaker 2: the industry for thirty years. Out of the trade. If

1530
01:13:11,933 --> 01:13:14,692
Speaker 2: you buy a second hand cart, doesn't make sense to

1531
01:13:14,692 --> 01:13:18,612
Speaker 2: get the warranty worth a dealer as opposed to getting

1532
01:13:18,612 --> 01:13:22,293
Speaker 2: the car and taking it to a mechanic and an

1533
01:13:22,333 --> 01:13:23,612
Speaker 2: outside MTA mechanic.

1534
01:13:24,452 --> 01:13:26,772
Speaker 15: The warranty doesn't necessarily mean it's worth a dealer because

1535
01:13:26,772 --> 01:13:28,532
Speaker 15: you've got it. There's different types of warranty. Some are

1536
01:13:28,612 --> 01:13:30,213
Speaker 15: dealer driven, but you have to come back to that

1537
01:13:30,253 --> 01:13:32,372
Speaker 15: warranty because they tried to hook you in. Some are

1538
01:13:32,492 --> 01:13:35,692
Speaker 15: just again an MTA member conserface. So you might buy

1539
01:13:35,692 --> 01:13:37,532
Speaker 15: it underneed. Yeah, I mean one of the cars I've

1540
01:13:37,532 --> 01:13:39,212
Speaker 15: bought in the last is what I bought in Crisedge.

1541
01:13:39,213 --> 01:13:41,612
Speaker 15: But I live in you know, the whiteout. Yeah, I

1542
01:13:41,612 --> 01:13:44,572
Speaker 15: ain't going back to Cristiage Reservice. But I bought a

1543
01:13:44,572 --> 01:13:47,572
Speaker 15: warranty to the European car. Yeah, so what you know, Yeah,

1544
01:13:47,612 --> 01:13:49,852
Speaker 15: any car. And don't get me wrong, it's not just

1545
01:13:49,893 --> 01:13:52,412
Speaker 15: European cars that cost a fortune. Defects some things on

1546
01:13:52,452 --> 01:13:54,892
Speaker 15: a Suzuki Swift, just as an example, or a you know,

1547
01:13:55,372 --> 01:13:57,133
Speaker 15: just because it's a small car and it's less that

1548
01:13:57,213 --> 01:13:59,173
Speaker 15: it's left to buy. I mean I used to be

1549
01:13:59,173 --> 01:14:00,492
Speaker 15: in the parts of that for a little while as well.

1550
01:14:00,492 --> 01:14:01,772
Speaker 15: And you look at this part and think, oh this

1551
01:14:01,853 --> 01:14:05,772
Speaker 15: is going to cost It's only fifty gas. That's not bad.

1552
01:14:06,093 --> 01:14:07,372
Speaker 15: And then you get something else and think, oh this

1553
01:14:07,372 --> 01:14:09,812
Speaker 15: will be thirty nine, one hundred and fifty two dollars.

1554
01:14:09,893 --> 01:14:10,572
Speaker 6: Then you get there.

1555
01:14:10,692 --> 01:14:11,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you.

1556
01:14:11,572 --> 01:14:14,692
Speaker 15: Know, so you are. You're in the lap of the

1557
01:14:14,772 --> 01:14:17,253
Speaker 15: manufacturer and they all cost a fortune to fix. And

1558
01:14:17,253 --> 01:14:21,372
Speaker 15: what no matter what anyone tells you, they will all break.

1559
01:14:21,732 --> 01:14:22,532
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1560
01:14:22,612 --> 01:14:24,932
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that, ste and've got a text

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01:14:24,933 --> 01:14:27,692
Speaker 2: through here on nineteen ninety two. You should give Stue

1562
01:14:27,732 --> 01:14:29,772
Speaker 2: a half hour spot once a week. Your listeners would

1563
01:14:29,772 --> 01:14:31,412
Speaker 2: love it, so you go, we'll.

1564
01:14:31,372 --> 01:14:33,933
Speaker 3: Keep in touch make with positive reviews.

1565
01:14:34,293 --> 01:14:35,133
Speaker 15: Right sounds good?

1566
01:14:35,213 --> 01:14:39,372
Speaker 3: Alright mate, go well yeah, very interesting, Thank you very much, right, Beck,

1567
01:14:39,412 --> 01:14:42,293
Speaker 3: And with more of your phone calls, it is nine

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01:14:42,333 --> 01:14:43,053
Speaker 3: to three.

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01:14:44,452 --> 01:14:46,892
Speaker 5: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1570
01:14:46,933 --> 01:14:47,532
Speaker 5: along the way.

1571
01:14:47,772 --> 01:14:51,532
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four.

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01:14:51,652 --> 01:14:52,492
Speaker 5: You've talked z.

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01:14:52,492 --> 01:14:57,013
Speaker 3: B News Talks there B seven to three. Josh, you

1574
01:14:57,053 --> 01:14:58,492
Speaker 3: want to have a chat about how to get the

1575
01:14:58,532 --> 01:14:59,172
Speaker 3: best mechanic?

1576
01:15:00,492 --> 01:15:03,812
Speaker 9: Yeah, hey boys here, No, I mean, my mechanic's pretty good.

1577
01:15:03,893 --> 01:15:06,133
Speaker 9: But you know that thought that goes through your head,

1578
01:15:06,173 --> 01:15:09,293
Speaker 9: do you know you likenk If I just tell it

1579
01:15:09,372 --> 01:15:11,892
Speaker 9: there and he lucks, he might decide, oh it needs

1580
01:15:11,893 --> 01:15:15,053
Speaker 9: an extra one of these or whatever. So anyway, my

1581
01:15:15,492 --> 01:15:17,652
Speaker 9: car broke down last week, and one thing I learned

1582
01:15:18,013 --> 01:15:24,012
Speaker 9: pretty quickly was your car has many censers, and there's

1583
01:15:24,093 --> 01:15:27,052
Speaker 9: a diagnostic tool where you can plug into your car.

1584
01:15:27,893 --> 01:15:30,572
Speaker 9: So if you can't doesn't work, you're plug in this device.

1585
01:15:30,853 --> 01:15:33,812
Speaker 9: It'll tell you the error code, and that aer code

1586
01:15:33,853 --> 01:15:38,372
Speaker 9: will correspond with what is wrong with that vehicle. So

1587
01:15:38,853 --> 01:15:42,372
Speaker 9: that's exactly what we did was I called him mate,

1588
01:15:42,412 --> 01:15:45,133
Speaker 9: freaking out, saying, hey, look mate, I really don't want

1589
01:15:45,173 --> 01:15:47,932
Speaker 9: to take it to the mechanic without kind of knowing

1590
01:15:48,013 --> 01:15:52,053
Speaker 9: for sure roughly what it is. And so around the

1591
01:15:52,093 --> 01:15:54,932
Speaker 9: diagnostic check we got the code, so we knew what

1592
01:15:54,973 --> 01:15:57,013
Speaker 9: the problem was. So when we handed the car over

1593
01:15:57,053 --> 01:16:00,253
Speaker 9: to the mechanic, we could clearly tell them this is

1594
01:16:00,253 --> 01:16:01,452
Speaker 9: what you're looking at, mate.

1595
01:16:01,853 --> 01:16:06,012
Speaker 5: That's smart, that is and these diagnostic tools.

1596
01:16:06,053 --> 01:16:09,532
Speaker 9: I didn't realize. My car is seventeen years old. It's

1597
01:16:09,572 --> 01:16:14,492
Speaker 9: got over fifteen hundred different senses and aren't the even

1598
01:16:14,532 --> 01:16:17,892
Speaker 9: more modern cars have even more census. And when you

1599
01:16:17,933 --> 01:16:22,013
Speaker 9: put in that machine, it'll tell you what's wrong with it.

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01:16:22,093 --> 01:16:24,412
Speaker 9: So if your car stops going, I mean these tools,

1601
01:16:24,452 --> 01:16:26,852
Speaker 9: there's dog lostic tools. They're only about one hundred and

1602
01:16:26,853 --> 01:16:28,572
Speaker 9: twenty bucks online.

1603
01:16:29,452 --> 01:16:31,173
Speaker 2: So you go, you plug that, and then you go

1604
01:16:31,213 --> 01:16:33,173
Speaker 2: into the mechanic and say it needs this, this, and this.

1605
01:16:34,452 --> 01:16:34,652
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1606
01:16:34,692 --> 01:16:36,772
Speaker 9: I just said, oh look we ran too. I had

1607
01:16:36,812 --> 01:16:39,412
Speaker 9: lost its on it already. These are the aero codes

1608
01:16:39,452 --> 01:16:43,732
Speaker 9: that are showing and this error code relates to this

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01:16:43,812 --> 01:16:45,133
Speaker 9: particular part of the car.

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01:16:46,133 --> 01:16:49,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is different from you know in your

1611
01:16:49,333 --> 01:16:51,652
Speaker 2: car when you're driving around. You know the warning codes

1612
01:16:51,652 --> 01:16:54,052
Speaker 2: come up on the on the screen. It's different from those,

1613
01:16:54,133 --> 01:16:55,932
Speaker 2: it's a different codes to that.

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01:16:57,053 --> 01:16:59,652
Speaker 9: It's probably the same mat See i've got a seventeen

1615
01:16:59,732 --> 01:17:02,612
Speaker 9: year old car. You've you've probably worked hard enough to

1616
01:17:02,853 --> 01:17:04,492
Speaker 9: have something that's a couple of years old.

1617
01:17:05,133 --> 01:17:07,333
Speaker 5: Perhaps it's been very late.

1618
01:17:07,692 --> 01:17:12,213
Speaker 9: Code come up on your dash, not like my old Honda.

1619
01:17:12,253 --> 01:17:15,213
Speaker 9: But yeah, that's the way we're heading. And in the future, man,

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01:17:15,412 --> 01:17:19,412
Speaker 9: it'll be as simple as run the diagnostics, find out

1621
01:17:19,412 --> 01:17:22,772
Speaker 9: what you need, then watch a little YouTube video. How

1622
01:17:22,772 --> 01:17:26,092
Speaker 9: do you replace that part? Yeah, it's gonna be that easy.

1623
01:17:26,293 --> 01:17:32,253
Speaker 9: So yeah, one way of double checking is having that

1624
01:17:32,372 --> 01:17:36,532
Speaker 9: diagnostic tool in running that check on your own vehicle

1625
01:17:36,572 --> 01:17:37,452
Speaker 9: before we hand it over.

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01:17:38,053 --> 01:17:38,213
Speaker 2: Good.

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01:17:38,213 --> 01:17:40,612
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for you cool Josh. That is

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01:17:40,692 --> 01:17:43,612
Speaker 3: where we'll leave a good check quick text here to

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01:17:43,612 --> 01:17:48,213
Speaker 3: finish up with guys for clarity. MTA is only an

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01:17:48,213 --> 01:17:50,933
Speaker 3: association wherepairers can join and pay a membership. They do

1631
01:17:51,053 --> 01:17:54,133
Speaker 3: very little training, but offers their members advice not the

1632
01:17:54,173 --> 01:17:56,053
Speaker 3: be all and end all for customers from Mark.

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01:17:56,253 --> 01:17:58,652
Speaker 2: Thank you for that, Mark A. So coming up after

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01:17:58,692 --> 01:18:01,572
Speaker 2: three o'clock, we've got the new Zealander of the week.

1635
01:18:02,333 --> 01:18:05,013
Speaker 2: We've also got topical tunes. We'll have g Lane from

1636
01:18:05,053 --> 01:18:06,973
Speaker 2: the acc or the Nice Student. I'm sure he's coming

1637
01:18:07,053 --> 01:18:10,973
Speaker 2: up to talk about the crack. And also we're going

1638
01:18:11,053 --> 01:18:14,012
Speaker 2: to ask you the question, what is the greatest Beatles

1639
01:18:14,013 --> 01:18:16,852
Speaker 2: song of all time? Yeah, because there's new Martin Scorsese

1640
01:18:16,973 --> 01:18:19,932
Speaker 2: documentary coming out on the Beatles. And also in this day,

1641
01:18:20,213 --> 01:18:23,333
Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, the great George Harrison passed away.

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01:18:23,612 --> 01:18:26,772
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. What is the best

1643
01:18:26,933 --> 01:18:29,492
Speaker 3: greatest Beatles song of all time? That's coming up very

1644
01:18:29,492 --> 01:18:31,213
Speaker 3: shortly nine two ninety two if you want to text

1645
01:18:31,293 --> 01:18:33,732
Speaker 3: it through as well. New Sport and Weather on its way.

1646
01:18:33,772 --> 01:18:36,013
Speaker 3: You're listening to matt and Tyler Good Afternoon.

1647
01:18:36,973 --> 01:18:40,293
Speaker 5: Your new home for instateful and entertaining talk.

1648
01:18:40,412 --> 01:18:44,533
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Tyler Adams afternoons on News.

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01:18:44,333 --> 01:18:48,333
Speaker 3: Talk sebbe good Afternoon, Happy Friday.

1650
01:18:48,933 --> 01:18:55,133
Speaker 2: Yeah. Not for some crew members of the Manoui, the

1651
01:18:55,293 --> 01:18:58,412
Speaker 2: h T Minis Insid marn On his grounding and sinking

1652
01:18:58,452 --> 01:19:01,452
Speaker 2: off the coast of Samoa was a result of human era.

1653
01:19:01,612 --> 01:19:05,412
Speaker 2: That is an absolute bombshell. Certainly, the naval aviously went

1654
01:19:05,452 --> 01:19:07,492
Speaker 2: down two months ago. You'd have heard this in the news.

1655
01:19:07,572 --> 01:19:10,972
Speaker 2: The Interim Court of Inquiry reports show series of human

1656
01:19:11,093 --> 01:19:14,333
Speaker 2: errors meant the ship's autopilot. We have problems with autopilots

1657
01:19:14,333 --> 01:19:17,412
Speaker 2: and ships in New Zealand. It wasn't disengaged when it

1658
01:19:17,452 --> 01:19:21,692
Speaker 2: should have been. Chief of Navy Rear Admiral Garren Golding

1659
01:19:21,772 --> 01:19:24,612
Speaker 2: says the crew mistakenly believed the ship's inability to respond

1660
01:19:24,652 --> 01:19:27,372
Speaker 2: to direct direction changes was caused by a thrust to

1661
01:19:27,412 --> 01:19:30,933
Speaker 2: control failure. He says standard procedure should have prompted the

1662
01:19:30,973 --> 01:19:33,732
Speaker 2: ship's crew to then check it was under manual control,

1663
01:19:33,772 --> 01:19:36,573
Speaker 2: but that didn't happen, so the ship continued an autopilot,

1664
01:19:36,612 --> 01:19:39,932
Speaker 2: eventually hitting the reef and grounding. The Rear Admiral says,

1665
01:19:40,333 --> 01:19:43,732
Speaker 2: given the human era, finding, a separate discipline of process

1666
01:19:43,732 --> 01:19:46,892
Speaker 2: will start once the Court of Inquiring concludes. Can you

1667
01:19:46,933 --> 01:19:50,612
Speaker 2: imagine if it was your human error that caused a

1668
01:19:50,732 --> 01:19:56,812
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty million dollar vessel to sink to

1669
01:19:56,853 --> 01:20:00,173
Speaker 2: the bottom of the ocean. Imagine that I was talking

1670
01:20:00,213 --> 01:20:01,933
Speaker 2: to some people at the Air Force a couple of

1671
01:20:02,013 --> 01:20:05,452
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and they were saying that the government announced

1672
01:20:05,452 --> 01:20:07,253
Speaker 2: that they had to make roughly one hundred and thirty

1673
01:20:07,253 --> 01:20:09,932
Speaker 2: million dollars a cut from budget manage out.

1674
01:20:09,853 --> 01:20:13,213
Speaker 3: For the manawanui no no, no, no, just in general, right, okay, yeah,

1675
01:20:13,213 --> 01:20:13,612
Speaker 3: before this.

1676
01:20:14,173 --> 01:20:16,253
Speaker 2: So that was that a long time before this, and

1677
01:20:16,293 --> 01:20:18,452
Speaker 2: then so so so members of the Defense Force have

1678
01:20:18,492 --> 01:20:22,652
Speaker 2: made these amazing cuts. And then the Navy just through

1679
01:20:22,732 --> 01:20:27,532
Speaker 2: human error censorship. Can you imagine pardon the pun, the

1680
01:20:27,572 --> 01:20:31,852
Speaker 2: sinking feeling you would have if you were responsible for that.

1681
01:20:32,532 --> 01:20:34,492
Speaker 2: As they go through the findings, is they slowly found

1682
01:20:34,532 --> 01:20:38,132
Speaker 2: out what happened, So you're thinking it was the thrust

1683
01:20:38,133 --> 01:20:40,452
Speaker 2: to control failure, and then you find out that you

1684
01:20:40,492 --> 01:20:44,653
Speaker 2: have mistakenly believed this and you haven't followed standard procedure

1685
01:20:44,893 --> 01:20:48,452
Speaker 2: and you have one hundred and thirty million dollars ship

1686
01:20:48,732 --> 01:20:50,333
Speaker 2: rough one hundred and thirty million dollars. I think we

1687
01:20:50,333 --> 01:20:51,892
Speaker 2: bought it for one hundred but then there was upgrade,

1688
01:20:51,933 --> 01:20:54,133
Speaker 2: so you know, don't quote me exactly on that number,

1689
01:20:54,133 --> 01:20:57,812
Speaker 2: but that number has been floating around. Boy oh boy,

1690
01:20:58,093 --> 01:21:01,293
Speaker 2: the levels of stress you would be under right now.

1691
01:21:01,333 --> 01:21:03,213
Speaker 2: I mean, there's going to be so many questions. And

1692
01:21:03,732 --> 01:21:05,893
Speaker 2: for me, what I found kind of odd about the

1693
01:21:05,933 --> 01:21:08,452
Speaker 2: whole thing is when we were told that speculation was

1694
01:21:08,532 --> 01:21:12,692
Speaker 2: unhelpful for a start. When I heard that that, I

1695
01:21:12,692 --> 01:21:14,452
Speaker 2: think it was might have been been Judith Collins who

1696
01:21:14,452 --> 01:21:17,133
Speaker 2: said that, I thought, what do you mean, who cares?

1697
01:21:17,173 --> 01:21:20,333
Speaker 2: Not our job as the taxpayer that's that's covering this hundred.

1698
01:21:20,093 --> 01:21:22,692
Speaker 3: Quarter to speculate to be helpful with our.

1699
01:21:22,612 --> 01:21:25,972
Speaker 2: Speculation, will speculate away at one hundred and thirty million dollars,

1700
01:21:26,372 --> 01:21:29,532
Speaker 2: And so a lot of the speculation seems justified. Now, yeah,

1701
01:21:29,572 --> 01:21:33,093
Speaker 2: because that is I mean, you're sinking a ship in peacetime.

1702
01:21:33,572 --> 01:21:38,732
Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen like a naveled ship going down

1703
01:21:38,893 --> 01:21:43,253
Speaker 2: in peace time. It is absolutely crazy.

1704
01:21:43,652 --> 01:21:45,892
Speaker 3: You've got to sympathize with the people involved in this.

1705
01:21:46,053 --> 01:21:48,892
Speaker 3: Whoever were the humans that had the era? Look, I

1706
01:21:48,933 --> 01:21:51,293
Speaker 3: get it, but yeah, as you said, the sinking feeling

1707
01:21:51,372 --> 01:21:54,053
Speaker 3: no pun intended. But man, you've got to sympathize with

1708
01:21:54,093 --> 01:21:54,572
Speaker 3: those people.

1709
01:21:54,692 --> 01:21:56,772
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, they will not be feeling good.

1710
01:21:56,812 --> 01:21:59,892
Speaker 2: But if they haven't folded followed standard procedure, then then

1711
01:21:59,933 --> 01:22:02,572
Speaker 2: what happens then? Because that is a that is a

1712
01:22:02,652 --> 01:22:05,772
Speaker 2: huge damage to the country. I mean, we already have

1713
01:22:06,013 --> 01:22:09,692
Speaker 2: an under resourced military, and you know, we scraped it

1714
01:22:09,692 --> 01:22:12,333
Speaker 2: together to buy this vessel because we thought we needed it,

1715
01:22:12,333 --> 01:22:14,732
Speaker 2: we wanted other stuff. We scraped it together. We bought

1716
01:22:14,732 --> 01:22:16,732
Speaker 2: this secondhand Norwegian thing, and there was a lot of

1717
01:22:16,772 --> 01:22:19,692
Speaker 2: people speculating that we bought a dunger and blaming Norway.

1718
01:22:20,732 --> 01:22:24,892
Speaker 2: But wow, that I think that is a huge, huge story.

1719
01:22:25,013 --> 01:22:27,293
Speaker 3: I've got to rip out the autopilot. Surely that's the

1720
01:22:27,333 --> 01:22:29,652
Speaker 3: second time the autopilot has got us into trouble.

1721
01:22:29,732 --> 01:22:32,053
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, well, I mean the thing with the

1722
01:22:32,093 --> 01:22:34,293
Speaker 2: autopilot is I don't know. Look, I don't know what

1723
01:22:34,293 --> 01:22:36,093
Speaker 2: the standard procedure is, and be ridiculous for me to

1724
01:22:36,093 --> 01:22:42,532
Speaker 2: speculate on navy procedures for you know, like a soil

1725
01:22:42,652 --> 01:22:47,692
Speaker 2: bound gentleman. But it just seems that you that at

1726
01:22:47,692 --> 01:22:50,772
Speaker 2: any given point you would go through the standard procedure. Yeah.

1727
01:22:50,973 --> 01:22:53,333
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be so interested if this comes out

1728
01:22:53,333 --> 01:22:58,253
Speaker 2: to work out exactly how how crazy this is. Yeah,

1729
01:22:58,652 --> 01:23:00,892
Speaker 2: and who gets the blame for this?

1730
01:23:01,093 --> 01:23:01,772
Speaker 3: It's a big stuff.

1731
01:23:02,013 --> 01:23:04,173
Speaker 2: It's just a blame go to the commander. I mean,

1732
01:23:04,412 --> 01:23:07,372
Speaker 2: some blame will because because that's the ultimate person on

1733
01:23:07,412 --> 01:23:08,773
Speaker 2: the boat that's making the decisions.

1734
01:23:08,893 --> 01:23:12,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, wow, plenty more to come on this story,

1735
01:23:12,253 --> 01:23:14,253
Speaker 3: But that is a massive stuff up. But once the

1736
01:23:14,612 --> 01:23:17,932
Speaker 3: Court of Inquiry starts and concludes, will certainly find out more.

1737
01:23:18,053 --> 01:23:22,093
Speaker 3: Right now, it is eleven past three, zied be.

1738
01:23:27,933 --> 01:23:30,253
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on zid B,

1739
01:23:30,372 --> 01:23:32,372
Speaker 2: we name the New Zealander of the Week and honor

1740
01:23:32,412 --> 01:23:34,652
Speaker 2: that we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker who

1741
01:23:34,692 --> 01:23:37,012
Speaker 2: has had an outsized effect on our great and beautiful

1742
01:23:37,053 --> 01:23:39,812
Speaker 2: nation over the previous seven days. As always, there will

1743
01:23:39,812 --> 01:23:43,013
Speaker 2: be three nominees, but only one winner. And remember, like

1744
01:23:43,053 --> 01:23:45,012
Speaker 2: the Time magazine Person of the Year, the New Zealand

1745
01:23:45,013 --> 01:23:47,732
Speaker 2: of the Week isn't always an agent of good. So

1746
01:23:47,812 --> 01:23:50,892
Speaker 2: without further ado, the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons

1747
01:23:50,933 --> 01:23:54,492
Speaker 2: New Zealand of the Week are Nominee one also gets

1748
01:23:54,532 --> 01:23:58,333
Speaker 2: the quarter Pounder of Controversy Award. You will be tastefully shifty,

1749
01:23:58,732 --> 01:24:01,772
Speaker 2: You will create tasty food. The snobby Elitis tried to

1750
01:24:01,853 --> 01:24:04,572
Speaker 2: take you down with their hateful trailers, but the people

1751
01:24:04,612 --> 01:24:07,772
Speaker 2: will not let them win. The proposed Warnic McDonald's you

1752
01:24:07,812 --> 01:24:10,253
Speaker 2: have been nominally for New Zealander of the Week. Yes,

1753
01:24:10,372 --> 01:24:13,932
Speaker 2: mac is nomine two also wins the Shoved and Neutral

1754
01:24:13,973 --> 01:24:16,572
Speaker 2: and Coast into Christmas Award. You told us to warm

1755
01:24:16,612 --> 01:24:18,652
Speaker 2: our cockles. Over the next few months, you dropped the

1756
01:24:18,652 --> 01:24:21,133
Speaker 2: official cash rate, then pissed off overseas before the hard

1757
01:24:21,173 --> 01:24:24,412
Speaker 2: interview bat Adrian or for jumping on the Christmas ghost

1758
01:24:24,412 --> 01:24:27,652
Speaker 2: though early. You are nominated for New Zealander of the Week,

1759
01:24:29,372 --> 01:24:31,772
Speaker 2: but there can be only one and the winner is

1760
01:24:32,253 --> 01:24:34,772
Speaker 2: And this is a sad one. We lost you far

1761
01:24:34,812 --> 01:24:38,372
Speaker 2: too young. Everyone who met you was impressed by you.

1762
01:24:38,372 --> 01:24:42,412
Speaker 2: You were respected and appreciated across the political spectrum. Even

1763
01:24:42,452 --> 01:24:45,973
Speaker 2: your biggest rival said of you politics was better for

1764
01:24:46,013 --> 01:24:49,133
Speaker 2: having you in it. Well, our great country was better

1765
01:24:49,333 --> 01:24:53,013
Speaker 2: for having you in it. Nicky kay rip you are

1766
01:24:53,572 --> 01:24:56,253
Speaker 2: the matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

1767
01:25:23,572 --> 01:25:26,452
Speaker 23: It is the toughest moments of my personal life that

1768
01:25:26,532 --> 01:25:28,412
Speaker 23: have helped me be able to be a better member

1769
01:25:28,452 --> 01:25:32,293
Speaker 23: of Parliament and cabinet minister. Through my parents breaking up, young,

1770
01:25:32,973 --> 01:25:36,652
Speaker 23: a stepbrother, being charged with murder, being diagnosed with breast

1771
01:25:36,692 --> 01:25:40,372
Speaker 23: cancer at thirty six, I have learned when your world

1772
01:25:40,412 --> 01:25:44,213
Speaker 23: breaks and shatters, you can be your most powerful.

1773
01:25:44,652 --> 01:25:46,493
Speaker 5: Mattie than Tyler Adams.

1774
01:25:46,732 --> 01:25:47,293
Speaker 3: Poor boy.

1775
01:25:47,692 --> 01:25:50,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that was a sad one this week for sure.

1776
01:25:50,732 --> 01:25:53,772
Speaker 3: Well deserved though, right. So, as you mentioned before, Martin

1777
01:25:53,812 --> 01:25:58,013
Speaker 3: Scorsese is producing a new documentary on the Beatles. It

1778
01:25:58,093 --> 01:26:03,293
Speaker 3: promises to offer a fascinating glipse glimpse rather into beetle Mania.

1779
01:26:03,333 --> 01:26:05,372
Speaker 3: But we're gonna ask the question, and plenty of people

1780
01:26:05,412 --> 01:26:08,973
Speaker 3: have started texting and already what is the greatest Beatles

1781
01:26:08,973 --> 01:26:12,852
Speaker 3: song of all time? A whole after choose from.

1782
01:26:12,772 --> 01:26:15,053
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I mean, look at the stats. One

1783
01:26:15,133 --> 01:26:18,013
Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen original songs, twenty five covers. So the

1784
01:26:18,053 --> 01:26:22,012
Speaker 2: Beatles recorded two hundred and thirteen songs, six hundred million sales,

1785
01:26:22,293 --> 01:26:26,452
Speaker 2: twenty US number ones, and twelve studio albums. The greatest

1786
01:26:26,492 --> 01:26:31,213
Speaker 2: band of all time if you ask me, and so many,

1787
01:26:31,372 --> 01:26:34,293
Speaker 2: so much a variety, so much variety of music across

1788
01:26:34,492 --> 01:26:38,892
Speaker 2: across their career. And look today. In two thousand and one,

1789
01:26:39,133 --> 01:26:42,972
Speaker 2: George Harrison tragically passed away of lung cancer at fifty eight,

1790
01:26:43,532 --> 01:26:47,173
Speaker 2: So young. And boy, I've been thinking about this since

1791
01:26:47,412 --> 01:26:49,053
Speaker 2: since we raised the topic. So I'd love to hear

1792
01:26:49,053 --> 01:26:51,732
Speaker 2: people thoughts on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty or

1793
01:26:52,133 --> 01:26:56,253
Speaker 2: on nine two nine two, But what is the greatest

1794
01:26:56,253 --> 01:26:57,293
Speaker 2: Beatles song of all time?

1795
01:26:57,532 --> 01:26:59,772
Speaker 3: We want to give you hours now, or we save

1796
01:26:59,812 --> 01:27:01,492
Speaker 3: that for a little bit later.

1797
01:27:01,812 --> 01:27:05,012
Speaker 2: Save, Let's save it, Let's save mine. We'll say save mine.

1798
01:27:05,093 --> 01:27:06,772
Speaker 2: I've got I've got got to work it out. It's

1799
01:27:06,772 --> 01:27:09,652
Speaker 2: currently between five songs. There's lot coming through.

1800
01:27:09,812 --> 01:27:12,812
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty, it's a big one. The text

1801
01:27:12,853 --> 01:27:14,852
Speaker 3: are coming through thick and fast. Ninet two ninety two

1802
01:27:14,893 --> 01:27:16,532
Speaker 3: is that number. Let's get into it. It is a

1803
01:27:16,612 --> 01:27:21,053
Speaker 3: quarter past three News Talks B We're asking what is

1804
01:27:21,093 --> 01:27:24,372
Speaker 3: the greatest Beatles song of all time? Huge question, but

1805
01:27:24,412 --> 01:27:27,733
Speaker 3: it's on the back of this new documentary by Martin Scorsese.

1806
01:27:27,853 --> 01:27:31,532
Speaker 3: He's producing at least directed by David Tadishi, and it's

1807
01:27:31,532 --> 01:27:35,133
Speaker 3: going to have a look at the Beatles Tour of

1808
01:27:35,253 --> 01:27:37,933
Speaker 3: America and eventually conquering the world. It's going to be

1809
01:27:37,973 --> 01:27:39,093
Speaker 3: a fascinating documentary.

1810
01:27:39,372 --> 01:27:41,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, how do you pick the best Beatles song

1811
01:27:41,412 --> 01:27:45,213
Speaker 2: of all time? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Give

1812
01:27:45,293 --> 01:27:47,532
Speaker 2: us a call with your one. I don't know if

1813
01:27:47,532 --> 01:27:49,732
Speaker 2: we'll get any kind of consensus on this, because there's

1814
01:27:49,732 --> 01:27:54,213
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty thirteen Beatles songs. My favorite Beatles

1815
01:27:54,213 --> 01:27:56,412
Speaker 2: songs I'm going to go for I'm going to go

1816
01:27:56,492 --> 01:27:59,173
Speaker 2: for throw two out for discussion. Okay, and I might

1817
01:27:59,213 --> 01:28:01,932
Speaker 2: get some kickback, but my favorite Beatles song of all

1818
01:28:01,973 --> 01:28:05,092
Speaker 2: time is probably between she said, she said.

1819
01:28:08,492 --> 01:28:09,892
Speaker 3: It nice.

1820
01:28:10,133 --> 01:28:10,652
Speaker 2: I love this.

1821
01:28:12,173 --> 01:28:15,293
Speaker 7: Es I.

1822
01:28:18,013 --> 01:28:23,333
Speaker 2: Absolute tune and off Abby Road, A Day in a Life,

1823
01:28:23,372 --> 01:28:55,613
Speaker 2: A Day in the Life.

1824
01:28:42,173 --> 01:28:45,932
Speaker 3: Beautiful, Dana's aggie. A day of Life is a baggie.

1825
01:28:46,133 --> 01:28:47,532
Speaker 2: And the reason why I did that because my son

1826
01:28:47,612 --> 01:28:49,173
Speaker 2: the other day was talking about the Beatles and I

1827
01:28:49,253 --> 01:28:52,412
Speaker 2: and he asked me this very question about two weeks ago,

1828
01:28:52,452 --> 01:28:55,293
Speaker 2: and and then I thought about it. We were driving

1829
01:28:55,333 --> 01:28:56,812
Speaker 2: somewhere in the car and I played him this one

1830
01:28:56,853 --> 01:28:59,612
Speaker 2: and he actually never heard the song before because he's

1831
01:28:59,652 --> 01:29:03,052
Speaker 2: just a young teenage fella. And you know, in twenty

1832
01:29:03,093 --> 01:29:05,892
Speaker 2: twenty four, he heard the song and he went, oh.

1833
01:29:05,772 --> 01:29:08,532
Speaker 3: My goodness, blew his mind. Yeah, blew his mind. Find

1834
01:29:08,532 --> 01:29:12,253
Speaker 3: out in the car, fantastic good. Don't me a while,

1835
01:29:12,293 --> 01:29:15,333
Speaker 3: but the horse came in. Let's go to the phones,

1836
01:29:15,572 --> 01:29:17,412
Speaker 3: and I think we've got Tony on the line. Get

1837
01:29:17,412 --> 01:29:23,173
Speaker 3: a Tony first one, Yeah.

1838
01:29:22,772 --> 01:29:23,333
Speaker 20: The life.

1839
01:29:23,692 --> 01:29:26,852
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's a couple of songs in there,

1840
01:29:27,093 --> 01:29:28,253
Speaker 2: and both of them are great.

1841
01:29:31,853 --> 01:29:34,452
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll still got your Tony. We just lost you there.

1842
01:29:34,452 --> 01:29:36,093
Speaker 3: What is it that you love so much about the day,

1843
01:29:36,253 --> 01:29:36,972
Speaker 3: day and the life.

1844
01:29:39,853 --> 01:29:41,893
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, I just like it.

1845
01:29:42,013 --> 01:29:44,533
Speaker 20: It's it's just Chelsea about the story.

1846
01:29:44,692 --> 01:29:46,412
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1847
01:29:49,612 --> 01:29:53,852
Speaker 2: Yeah. Norwegian fantastic song A Day in the Life, of course,

1848
01:29:53,973 --> 01:29:56,892
Speaker 2: was two songs, one by Paul McCartney and one by

1849
01:29:57,173 --> 01:30:01,173
Speaker 2: John Lennon, and they came together and George Martin, producer, said,

1850
01:30:01,173 --> 01:30:02,932
Speaker 2: how can we get from one key to another key?

1851
01:30:03,013 --> 01:30:04,772
Speaker 2: So he just said to the orchestra, you start here

1852
01:30:04,812 --> 01:30:06,133
Speaker 2: and you go to here, and that's how you've got

1853
01:30:06,133 --> 01:30:09,652
Speaker 2: that orchestra ickestral bull up to the other song. It's

1854
01:30:10,013 --> 01:30:16,013
Speaker 2: very very clever. Also also Ringo does one of the

1855
01:30:16,013 --> 01:30:19,012
Speaker 2: coolest He's got the coolest drum fills in that song.

1856
01:30:21,173 --> 01:30:23,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love r Ando. James, What is it for you?

1857
01:30:23,652 --> 01:30:24,892
Speaker 3: What's your favorite Beatles song?

1858
01:30:27,853 --> 01:30:31,253
Speaker 21: With somewhere on the Day in the Life, And I

1859
01:30:31,253 --> 01:30:33,532
Speaker 21: think Strawberry Field is one of the better ones too,

1860
01:30:33,612 --> 01:30:36,532
Speaker 21: But well, my absolute favorite, and this is just one

1861
01:30:36,532 --> 01:30:41,652
Speaker 21: of my personal opinion, is Don't Let Me Down, Oh Yeah,

1862
01:30:42,893 --> 01:30:45,732
Speaker 21: which was basically one of the last hips they had

1863
01:30:45,812 --> 01:30:48,492
Speaker 21: before the broke up.

1864
01:30:49,093 --> 01:30:51,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was singing on the rooftop, wasn't it.

1865
01:30:51,772 --> 01:30:54,412
Speaker 21: Yeah, Yeah, that was basically one of the last few

1866
01:30:54,452 --> 01:30:57,692
Speaker 21: things they did before the band finally came apart.

1867
01:30:58,053 --> 01:30:58,492
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1868
01:30:58,692 --> 01:31:00,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's a fantastic song.

1869
01:31:00,372 --> 01:31:02,133
Speaker 3: That was a great video, wasn't when they singing on

1870
01:31:02,173 --> 01:31:04,333
Speaker 3: the rooftop and you see the bobbies come through the

1871
01:31:04,412 --> 01:31:06,412
Speaker 3: door and McCartney looks back and gives a bit of

1872
01:31:06,412 --> 01:31:10,492
Speaker 3: a grand and it just gives it heaps. Harold, what

1873
01:31:10,612 --> 01:31:16,213
Speaker 3: is it for you? That's hey, dude, hey Jude. Yeah, yeah,

1874
01:31:16,253 --> 01:31:16,732
Speaker 3: I love that.

1875
01:31:16,853 --> 01:31:19,173
Speaker 22: I love that song because it builds and bills And

1876
01:31:19,253 --> 01:31:21,572
Speaker 22: I lived in America at the time when it came out.

1877
01:31:22,133 --> 01:31:25,093
Speaker 2: Oh did you Well, I can't imagine, because I feel

1878
01:31:25,093 --> 01:31:27,053
Speaker 2: like I've known that song my whole life. Can you

1879
01:31:27,093 --> 01:31:29,973
Speaker 2: remember the moment that you heard that song is a

1880
01:31:29,973 --> 01:31:33,213
Speaker 2: new Beatles song out and you heard it at what

1881
01:31:33,372 --> 01:31:38,612
Speaker 2: I was in my thirties, and at that time.

1882
01:31:39,053 --> 01:31:41,492
Speaker 22: I remember, I remember, let's enjoy it in the car,

1883
01:31:42,053 --> 01:31:43,812
Speaker 22: and then after I heard it in the car, went

1884
01:31:43,812 --> 01:31:44,973
Speaker 22: out and got the albums.

1885
01:31:45,452 --> 01:31:47,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So it must have been amazing to be

1886
01:31:47,532 --> 01:31:50,972
Speaker 2: at a time when Beatles the Beatles were releasing new

1887
01:31:51,053 --> 01:31:52,893
Speaker 2: music because you wouldn't know what they were going to do,

1888
01:31:52,933 --> 01:31:55,253
Speaker 2: because obviously they were so innovative.

1889
01:31:55,293 --> 01:31:58,093
Speaker 22: So oh there, they're the best. Let me tell you

1890
01:31:58,213 --> 01:31:58,852
Speaker 22: they're the best.

1891
01:31:59,333 --> 01:32:01,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you'd hear. So the Beatles got a new

1892
01:32:01,853 --> 01:32:03,213
Speaker 2: song out. Let's give it a listen and see what

1893
01:32:03,293 --> 01:32:03,973
Speaker 2: see what it's like.

1894
01:32:04,133 --> 01:32:06,932
Speaker 3: And it's Hey, Jude, I love that song right at,

1895
01:32:07,333 --> 01:32:08,333
Speaker 3: such a good sing along song.

1896
01:32:09,372 --> 01:32:14,293
Speaker 22: Ye bells and bells right for the you're right yeah.

1897
01:32:13,812 --> 01:32:15,812
Speaker 2: And if you're in the car, the rulers of that

1898
01:32:15,933 --> 01:32:17,772
Speaker 2: song plays in the car. You can't get out of

1899
01:32:17,772 --> 01:32:20,372
Speaker 2: the car, even on a road trip when you get

1900
01:32:20,492 --> 01:32:22,253
Speaker 2: when you go home, you've got to wait till all

1901
01:32:22,293 --> 01:32:27,133
Speaker 2: the You've got to wait.

1902
01:32:28,933 --> 01:32:32,012
Speaker 3: Hey, dude, do you know that.

1903
01:32:31,893 --> 01:32:34,293
Speaker 2: That song was written for Julian Lennon. Paul McCartney wrote

1904
01:32:34,293 --> 01:32:36,973
Speaker 2: it for Julian Lennon. John John Lennon thought it was

1905
01:32:38,093 --> 01:32:41,812
Speaker 2: Paul McCartney singing about a girl, but Paul McCartney after

1906
01:32:42,532 --> 01:32:47,172
Speaker 2: Julian Lennon broke up with Cynthia Lennon and was with Yoko,

1907
01:32:47,372 --> 01:32:52,053
Speaker 2: he went to see see her and and Julian and

1908
01:32:52,053 --> 01:32:54,572
Speaker 2: he felt really bad for him, so he wrote the

1909
01:32:54,612 --> 01:32:56,412
Speaker 2: song about how your life's going to be. It's going

1910
01:32:56,492 --> 01:32:57,892
Speaker 2: to be okay, it's going to be good. All these

1911
01:32:57,893 --> 01:33:00,132
Speaker 2: things that will happen to you. He was really emotionally

1912
01:33:00,213 --> 01:33:01,572
Speaker 2: touched boy, but he never told John that.

1913
01:33:01,732 --> 01:33:06,892
Speaker 22: Yeah, he was like, okay, guy, well thank you her make.

1914
01:33:06,812 --> 01:33:09,253
Speaker 3: Thank you Harold. Great to hear from you. Oh, eight

1915
01:33:09,253 --> 01:33:12,372
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty. What is the greatest Beatles

1916
01:33:12,372 --> 01:33:14,692
Speaker 3: song of all time? For you? Plenty of calls and

1917
01:33:14,772 --> 01:33:16,532
Speaker 3: texts coming through. We'll get to some of the more

1918
01:33:16,572 --> 01:33:26,652
Speaker 3: of those very shortly. It is twenty four past three.

1919
01:33:24,173 --> 01:33:27,572
Speaker 1: Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1920
01:33:27,612 --> 01:33:29,773
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

1921
01:33:30,093 --> 01:33:32,892
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about the greatest Beatles song of

1922
01:33:32,933 --> 01:33:35,253
Speaker 3: all time in the back of a new document documentary

1923
01:33:35,253 --> 01:33:39,372
Speaker 3: coming out. Martin Scorsese is producing. It's gonna be amazing.

1924
01:33:38,933 --> 01:33:40,652
Speaker 2: And just this Talk of Beatles is going to make

1925
01:33:40,692 --> 01:33:43,812
Speaker 2: watch the Get Back Peter Jackson documentary again. How good

1926
01:33:43,853 --> 01:33:44,053
Speaker 2: was that?

1927
01:33:44,213 --> 01:33:46,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, Marie, how are you hello?

1928
01:33:47,173 --> 01:33:47,452
Speaker 15: Title?

1929
01:33:47,652 --> 01:33:48,053
Speaker 6: Not bad?

1930
01:33:48,652 --> 01:33:49,253
Speaker 3: What are you reading?

1931
01:33:50,333 --> 01:33:50,452
Speaker 7: One?

1932
01:33:50,532 --> 01:33:53,293
Speaker 6: My favorite Beatles song is eight Days a Week?

1933
01:33:53,692 --> 01:33:55,652
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, Early, I.

1934
01:33:55,572 --> 01:33:59,092
Speaker 6: Love eight Days a Week. I just like fat person

1935
01:33:59,133 --> 01:34:02,732
Speaker 6: that sitting beside you. How many books has he written me?

1936
01:34:03,572 --> 01:34:07,173
Speaker 2: I've got arguably two. I've had two out this year.

1937
01:34:08,133 --> 01:34:10,772
Speaker 5: Well, I have written to or you.

1938
01:34:10,812 --> 01:34:11,293
Speaker 3: Have it right?

1939
01:34:11,333 --> 01:34:13,532
Speaker 2: Well, the second book that came out this year, so

1940
01:34:13,612 --> 01:34:15,293
Speaker 2: that the first book that came out the year.

1941
01:34:15,572 --> 01:34:17,652
Speaker 6: I saw it. I saw it in the weekend. But

1942
01:34:17,973 --> 01:34:21,572
Speaker 6: of the Union post, Yeah, books to look out for

1943
01:34:22,452 --> 01:34:24,452
Speaker 6: to read was your book?

1944
01:34:24,612 --> 01:34:27,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wrote The Lifeless Punishing that came out

1945
01:34:27,173 --> 01:34:30,692
Speaker 2: and may I think and then recently me and Mike

1946
01:34:30,772 --> 01:34:35,612
Speaker 2: Lane also the book come out called The acc alban Ax.

1947
01:34:35,732 --> 01:34:39,052
Speaker 6: Oh, yes, I remember that once and then we're talking

1948
01:34:39,053 --> 01:34:39,492
Speaker 6: about that.

1949
01:34:39,612 --> 01:34:42,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stevenson, So that's what that's why I say, arguably too.

1950
01:34:42,532 --> 01:34:45,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you buy his book, Marie? Did you buy it?

1951
01:34:45,173 --> 01:34:45,612
Speaker 3: In the books?

1952
01:34:45,893 --> 01:34:48,892
Speaker 6: Well, I may do if I get a chance to,

1953
01:34:49,372 --> 01:34:52,213
Speaker 6: but I might get my son's coming down next week

1954
01:34:52,293 --> 01:34:53,572
Speaker 6: and in my hopes to go to one day at

1955
01:34:53,572 --> 01:34:56,612
Speaker 6: the Base of Reserves, I'm going to see if he

1956
01:34:56,612 --> 01:34:58,692
Speaker 6: can get it for me when he comes, because calls

1957
01:34:58,692 --> 01:34:59,412
Speaker 6: will have it, won't they.

1958
01:34:59,492 --> 01:35:01,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wicks, they have a big old pile.

1959
01:35:01,532 --> 01:35:04,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, big gold bile.

1960
01:35:05,013 --> 01:35:07,853
Speaker 6: But it's good to see them putting it in mainstream

1961
01:35:07,893 --> 01:35:10,492
Speaker 6: commun like Top tens and Top twenties.

1962
01:35:10,853 --> 01:35:12,372
Speaker 15: Seeks to read, Yeah.

1963
01:35:14,652 --> 01:35:17,812
Speaker 6: In that little magazine that comes with this Saturday morning. Yeah,

1964
01:35:17,853 --> 01:35:20,572
Speaker 6: dominion post. It's good to see at the head. A

1965
01:35:20,692 --> 01:35:22,012
Speaker 6: lot of people get that paper.

1966
01:35:22,253 --> 01:35:24,812
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well, thank you so much, Marie. And look

1967
01:35:24,853 --> 01:35:27,852
Speaker 2: at in terms of genius levels my book and the

1968
01:35:27,893 --> 01:35:29,932
Speaker 2: Beatles at the other ends of the spectrum.

1969
01:35:31,372 --> 01:35:35,333
Speaker 16: Calvin, Yes, good afternoon to both. Is I'm eighty three.

1970
01:35:35,452 --> 01:35:37,452
Speaker 16: So I was there when the Beatles first came on

1971
01:35:37,572 --> 01:35:41,572
Speaker 16: the scene, and I can clearly remember their type of music,

1972
01:35:41,692 --> 01:35:44,052
Speaker 16: first of all, because it was so different from anything

1973
01:35:44,093 --> 01:35:47,452
Speaker 16: else would have been going. And they certainly broke out

1974
01:35:47,853 --> 01:35:53,293
Speaker 16: into the world. And the song what I whenever I

1975
01:35:53,412 --> 01:35:55,892
Speaker 16: hear it, it takes me straight back to the early

1976
01:35:56,053 --> 01:36:00,412
Speaker 16: sixties when we were here in the tron partying big

1977
01:36:00,532 --> 01:36:04,053
Speaker 16: time proper parties, not the crap they have now. And

1978
01:36:04,213 --> 01:36:08,652
Speaker 16: so the song, the song, it's got to be one

1979
01:36:08,692 --> 01:36:11,253
Speaker 16: of the early ones, which when they hit the scene

1980
01:36:11,333 --> 01:36:14,933
Speaker 16: running and not not their later different styles and all that.

1981
01:36:15,532 --> 01:36:18,732
Speaker 16: So the one I particularly like because there are lots

1982
01:36:18,732 --> 01:36:20,813
Speaker 16: of them, and that is Twist.

1983
01:36:20,572 --> 01:36:23,612
Speaker 2: And shout Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, classic one of their

1984
01:36:23,652 --> 01:36:25,213
Speaker 2: eighteen covers, twistings Out.

1985
01:36:26,093 --> 01:36:29,772
Speaker 16: Yes, fantastic. So when they were singing that, you can

1986
01:36:29,853 --> 01:36:35,333
Speaker 16: hear the drums going, well, the guitars the harmonizing, it's

1987
01:36:35,372 --> 01:36:39,492
Speaker 16: all there, and it was loud, and the wailing, the

1988
01:36:39,572 --> 01:36:42,133
Speaker 16: wailing of the singers, it was all there.

1989
01:36:42,452 --> 01:36:44,892
Speaker 3: So you all there, you're around when the Beatles came

1990
01:36:44,933 --> 01:36:45,733
Speaker 3: to New Zealand.

1991
01:36:45,492 --> 01:36:51,013
Speaker 16: Calvin, I, well, I've been in New Zealand all the

1992
01:36:51,093 --> 01:36:53,612
Speaker 16: time since ninety forty one.

1993
01:36:54,933 --> 01:36:57,692
Speaker 3: So you were here, can remember that vividly?

1994
01:36:59,093 --> 01:37:02,412
Speaker 16: Well, I remember on the black and white television seeing

1995
01:37:02,452 --> 01:37:04,532
Speaker 16: them when they were when they came out of the

1996
01:37:04,652 --> 01:37:09,893
Speaker 16: upstairs balcony. Was it at Wellington? Yeah, yeah, I was

1997
01:37:09,933 --> 01:37:11,013
Speaker 16: from the hotel.

1998
01:37:10,933 --> 01:37:13,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cook Hotel. Yeah. Now, now when you say

1999
01:37:13,893 --> 01:37:16,973
Speaker 2: that partying properly unlike they do today, what were the

2000
01:37:17,293 --> 01:37:18,692
Speaker 2: tenants of partying back then?

2001
01:37:19,732 --> 01:37:22,372
Speaker 16: Well, it had to be a line of LP record

2002
01:37:22,973 --> 01:37:24,652
Speaker 16: yeap on a player.

2003
01:37:24,893 --> 01:37:25,093
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2004
01:37:26,452 --> 01:37:34,452
Speaker 16: And alcohol, of course was in the glass. Yeah, quite

2005
01:37:34,492 --> 01:37:35,693
Speaker 16: often in the glass.

2006
01:37:36,853 --> 01:37:37,333
Speaker 14: They would have been.

2007
01:37:37,652 --> 01:37:39,452
Speaker 16: There would have been larger bottles in those days.

2008
01:37:39,652 --> 01:37:39,892
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2009
01:37:40,333 --> 01:37:42,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone told me that. Someone told me, and you

2010
01:37:42,893 --> 01:37:45,293
Speaker 2: maybe you can back this up or not, Calvin, but

2011
01:37:45,333 --> 01:37:47,612
Speaker 2: someone told me. When they first Beatles songs started coming out,

2012
01:37:47,652 --> 01:37:50,253
Speaker 2: they just sounded louder and clearer in the speakers and

2013
01:37:50,293 --> 01:37:52,812
Speaker 2: people would say, are they somehow getting deeper? Grooves than

2014
01:37:52,853 --> 01:37:54,852
Speaker 2: the record or something. Was that your experience that just

2015
01:37:55,013 --> 01:37:56,572
Speaker 2: sounded better than other rules.

2016
01:37:56,933 --> 01:37:59,852
Speaker 16: I didn't. I didn't go into that technically, Like as

2017
01:37:59,933 --> 01:38:03,093
Speaker 16: you just stated, it was just there was new, a

2018
01:38:03,253 --> 01:38:07,973
Speaker 16: new type of sound, new music, new songs was fantastic.

2019
01:38:08,053 --> 01:38:10,772
Speaker 2: We'll forget people forget that. They were called the Beatles

2020
01:38:10,853 --> 01:38:12,692
Speaker 2: because they were playing the beat. They were playing the

2021
01:38:12,812 --> 01:38:15,173
Speaker 2: four to four beat as opposed to skiffle, and so

2022
01:38:15,293 --> 01:38:16,812
Speaker 2: the four four beat makes a lot of sense to

2023
01:38:16,893 --> 01:38:19,213
Speaker 2: us now, but really hammering the four four beat was

2024
01:38:19,293 --> 01:38:21,492
Speaker 2: quite new at that time, and that was a type

2025
01:38:21,492 --> 01:38:23,973
Speaker 2: of music. Hence they were called the horrific pun of

2026
01:38:24,053 --> 01:38:24,532
Speaker 2: the Beatles.

2027
01:38:24,692 --> 01:38:27,372
Speaker 3: I love it, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

2028
01:38:27,452 --> 01:38:29,452
Speaker 3: What is the greatest Beatles song of all time? It

2029
01:38:29,612 --> 01:38:30,692
Speaker 3: is twenty nine to four.

2030
01:38:33,652 --> 01:38:35,892
Speaker 5: Jews talk sa'd be headlines with.

2031
01:38:36,013 --> 01:38:38,732
Speaker 12: Blue bubble taxis, It's no trouble with a blue bubble

2032
01:38:39,293 --> 01:38:43,053
Speaker 12: and Interim Court of Inquiry has found the hm NZ's

2033
01:38:43,173 --> 01:38:47,372
Speaker 12: Manawanui's grounding and sinking off the coast of Samour was

2034
01:38:47,572 --> 01:38:51,692
Speaker 12: a result of human error. Ambulance crews are at Auckland

2035
01:38:51,732 --> 01:38:55,333
Speaker 12: Saint Cut's College in Epsom after a reported chemical spill.

2036
01:38:55,732 --> 01:38:59,532
Speaker 12: Emergency services, including a hazmat unit called at around twelve

2037
01:38:59,652 --> 01:39:03,652
Speaker 12: thirty at a school building, has been evacuated. A man

2038
01:39:03,732 --> 01:39:07,132
Speaker 12: believed to be president of the West Auckland Headhunters chapter

2039
01:39:07,333 --> 01:39:10,452
Speaker 12: has faced court over an alleged breach on day one

2040
01:39:10,652 --> 01:39:14,052
Speaker 12: of the patch ban. Sixty one year old Philip Roberts

2041
01:39:14,213 --> 01:39:19,532
Speaker 12: is on remand until his next appearance on December the eighteenth. Meanwhile,

2042
01:39:19,572 --> 01:39:22,213
Speaker 12: a patched head hunter has been arrested and a vehicle

2043
01:39:22,253 --> 01:39:26,412
Speaker 12: impounded after a fleeing driver incident in Auckland's Newmarket last night.

2044
01:39:26,853 --> 01:39:28,972
Speaker 12: A twenty six year old man will appear in court

2045
01:39:29,053 --> 01:39:33,052
Speaker 12: today charged with possession of an offensive weapon and failing

2046
01:39:33,133 --> 01:39:37,013
Speaker 12: to answer district court bail. And then the cargo man

2047
01:39:37,053 --> 01:39:41,892
Speaker 12: who's landed himself in court after allegedly indecently exposing himself

2048
01:39:41,973 --> 01:39:45,012
Speaker 12: to members of the public. Police are asking anyone who's

2049
01:39:45,093 --> 01:39:47,452
Speaker 12: had a run in with the nineteen year old, brown

2050
01:39:47,532 --> 01:39:50,732
Speaker 12: haired Caucasian man and a green sedan over the last

2051
01:39:50,812 --> 01:39:54,852
Speaker 12: two weeks to let them know region's cocaine use linked

2052
01:39:54,893 --> 01:39:58,572
Speaker 12: to ideals smuggling conditions. You can find out more about

2053
01:39:58,612 --> 01:40:01,772
Speaker 12: that at insid Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Heath

2054
01:40:01,933 --> 01:40:03,093
Speaker 12: and Tyler Adams, but.

2055
01:40:03,173 --> 01:40:04,972
Speaker 3: Early, thank you very much, Susie.

2056
01:40:05,452 --> 01:40:08,412
Speaker 2: I'm reeling at the magnitude of that Interim Court of

2057
01:40:08,452 --> 01:40:11,173
Speaker 2: Inquiry report showing that a series of human erarors meant

2058
01:40:11,213 --> 01:40:14,452
Speaker 2: that the ship's autopilot wasn't disengaged when it should have been,

2059
01:40:15,053 --> 01:40:17,612
Speaker 2: and that's responsible for the man And Whennui's a grounding

2060
01:40:18,173 --> 01:40:20,812
Speaker 2: off the coast of Summer, I mean that is human

2061
01:40:21,013 --> 01:40:26,612
Speaker 2: era autopilot on. So you know, standard procedure sounds like

2062
01:40:26,692 --> 01:40:30,492
Speaker 2: it wasn't followed, so no one went is the autopilot on?

2063
01:40:31,973 --> 01:40:33,972
Speaker 3: This is blowing your mind, isn't it? And for good reason.

2064
01:40:34,013 --> 01:40:34,412
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

2065
01:40:34,772 --> 01:40:38,013
Speaker 2: That's one hundred and thirty million dollars ship, whatever it

2066
01:40:38,093 --> 01:40:40,652
Speaker 2: costs for the cleanup or the planes that have flown up.

2067
01:40:40,772 --> 01:40:41,892
Speaker 2: That is a boy.

2068
01:40:42,013 --> 01:40:42,213
Speaker 11: Boy.

2069
01:40:42,213 --> 01:40:45,932
Speaker 2: I've done some cockups in my life, but imagine having

2070
01:40:46,013 --> 01:40:48,412
Speaker 2: that cockup hanging over you. I mean the effect that

2071
01:40:48,572 --> 01:40:50,893
Speaker 2: has on our defense future and our future of the

2072
01:40:50,933 --> 01:40:52,692
Speaker 2: country when we're trying to save some money.

2073
01:40:52,853 --> 01:40:54,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, mine that.

2074
01:40:56,053 --> 01:40:57,333
Speaker 2: That is that is quite something.

2075
01:40:57,372 --> 01:41:00,053
Speaker 3: Anyway, the cockup of the decade, I think that, if

2076
01:41:00,133 --> 01:41:03,572
Speaker 3: not the last fifty years. But yeah, let's back, get

2077
01:41:03,612 --> 01:41:05,612
Speaker 3: back to the Beatles, plenty of calls coming through on

2078
01:41:05,732 --> 01:41:07,732
Speaker 3: the greatest Beatles song of all time?

2079
01:41:07,853 --> 01:41:08,652
Speaker 2: Well, what's yours?

2080
01:41:09,652 --> 01:41:12,012
Speaker 3: My one? But a Penny Lane.

2081
01:41:12,412 --> 01:41:18,212
Speaker 2: Jenny Lane, absolute lall McCartney banger.

2082
01:41:18,692 --> 01:41:20,893
Speaker 3: What I find so amazing about Lane is this.

2083
01:41:21,452 --> 01:41:25,572
Speaker 2: So they wanted this on the on this Sergeant Pepper's album,

2084
01:41:25,812 --> 01:41:28,213
Speaker 2: but the record company said, we need a single out now,

2085
01:41:28,612 --> 01:41:31,933
Speaker 2: so they released Strawberry Fields as an Penny Lane on

2086
01:41:32,053 --> 01:41:34,133
Speaker 2: a single together. So Penny Lane was the B side

2087
01:41:34,173 --> 01:41:37,253
Speaker 2: to Strawberry Fields. So can you imagine that two songs

2088
01:41:37,253 --> 01:41:40,372
Speaker 2: that that are just so phenomenally good and the Beatles

2089
01:41:40,412 --> 01:41:43,333
Speaker 2: were just absolutely crapping Mona Lisa's at that time to

2090
01:41:43,452 --> 01:41:47,492
Speaker 2: the point where they can release a single with Strawberry Fields,

2091
01:41:47,532 --> 01:41:50,572
Speaker 2: Fever and Penny Lane on the same seven inch single.

2092
01:41:50,973 --> 01:41:52,652
Speaker 3: It's unheard of genius.

2093
01:41:52,893 --> 01:41:55,412
Speaker 2: That is, well, that's even more unheard of than human

2094
01:41:55,572 --> 01:41:59,652
Speaker 2: error singing. And that's quite something that.

2095
01:42:01,492 --> 01:42:07,572
Speaker 3: Mate. Yeah, good god, you're a big Yeah, gotcha mate,

2096
01:42:07,612 --> 01:42:08,533
Speaker 3: you're a big Beatles.

2097
01:42:09,732 --> 01:42:13,932
Speaker 17: Oh duoge And in comparison to last tour, I'm twenty three,

2098
01:42:14,093 --> 01:42:17,132
Speaker 17: so oh that sixthing is different.

2099
01:42:18,452 --> 01:42:19,012
Speaker 3: It's huge.

2100
01:42:21,253 --> 01:42:24,012
Speaker 17: And his suggestion was great. I've been ratting my brain

2101
01:42:24,173 --> 01:42:26,053
Speaker 17: trying to think come up with ideas.

2102
01:42:25,732 --> 01:42:26,532
Speaker 7: But for me.

2103
01:42:28,213 --> 01:42:33,092
Speaker 17: Got to be either Chum Together, great song or indeed

2104
01:42:33,213 --> 01:42:36,692
Speaker 17: Sergeant Keeper's Lonely Club heart Band the song oh yeah.

2105
01:42:36,812 --> 01:42:42,852
Speaker 2: The first one, or the Reprize Oh Mark mhm. I

2106
01:42:42,893 --> 01:42:45,333
Speaker 2: mean it's great to have both of them, both of

2107
01:42:45,372 --> 01:42:47,892
Speaker 2: them on the on on the album Yeah, Come Together

2108
01:42:48,013 --> 01:42:49,652
Speaker 2: was I'm just going to punish people. I've read so

2109
01:42:49,652 --> 01:42:51,932
Speaker 2: many books on the Beatles punishing people with Beatles facts,

2110
01:42:52,253 --> 01:42:54,732
Speaker 2: but Come Together was written really originally written for a

2111
01:42:54,772 --> 01:42:57,532
Speaker 2: political campaign and then John Lennon sort of fell out

2112
01:42:57,532 --> 01:42:59,213
Speaker 2: with the guy and went now and I'm going to

2113
01:42:59,293 --> 01:43:01,133
Speaker 2: keep that for as a Beatles song. But what a

2114
01:43:01,452 --> 01:43:05,692
Speaker 2: fantastic song and also further proof the people that questioned

2115
01:43:05,732 --> 01:43:08,213
Speaker 2: Ringo Star as a drummer that the way that the

2116
01:43:08,452 --> 01:43:10,333
Speaker 2: drum beat that that he came up for that is

2117
01:43:10,492 --> 01:43:13,492
Speaker 2: like nothing anyone else would come up. It's a bizarre beat,

2118
01:43:14,572 --> 01:43:16,333
Speaker 2: perfect timeless.

2119
01:43:16,732 --> 01:43:19,412
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, Asia, Thank you very much, mates.

2120
01:43:20,253 --> 01:43:23,492
Speaker 2: I would like to put this to to the to

2121
01:43:23,612 --> 01:43:26,812
Speaker 2: the people as my my another one of the best

2122
01:43:26,812 --> 01:43:38,692
Speaker 2: Beatles songs of all time, Norwegian would This one was

2123
01:43:38,772 --> 01:43:41,933
Speaker 2: a bit of a struggle for Cynthia Lennon because it

2124
01:43:42,133 --> 01:43:48,173
Speaker 2: was clearly a song about John Lennon going home with

2125
01:43:48,452 --> 01:43:49,012
Speaker 2: another woman.

2126
01:43:49,372 --> 01:43:49,572
Speaker 5: Right.

2127
01:43:49,853 --> 01:43:52,372
Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to be unfair here,

2128
01:43:52,412 --> 01:43:54,492
Speaker 3: but what's the instrument that has been played here?

2129
01:43:57,093 --> 01:43:57,372
Speaker 14: Guitar?

2130
01:43:58,173 --> 01:43:59,333
Speaker 3: Is it just a regular guitar?

2131
01:43:59,452 --> 01:43:59,612
Speaker 21: Though?

2132
01:44:01,612 --> 01:44:04,852
Speaker 2: Oh there's a bit of sitar in the background. It

2133
01:44:04,973 --> 01:44:06,772
Speaker 2: was when Jorge Harrison was going deep in the cititar,

2134
01:44:06,853 --> 01:44:10,173
Speaker 2: which was so cool there, you know, and that seems

2135
01:44:10,173 --> 01:44:11,452
Speaker 2: like the kind of thing people do now, but back

2136
01:44:11,492 --> 01:44:13,652
Speaker 2: then the people game he's playing us at.

2137
01:44:13,652 --> 01:44:19,652
Speaker 3: Times we have time for one more? Doug yet a mate? Hey,

2138
01:44:19,732 --> 01:44:22,972
Speaker 3: Core Gollan, very good? What's your favorite Beatles song?

2139
01:44:24,732 --> 01:44:27,812
Speaker 14: Absolute favorite? As a day in the life such a

2140
01:44:29,412 --> 01:44:33,412
Speaker 14: followed by Penny Lane due to the fact, well why

2141
01:44:33,692 --> 01:44:36,333
Speaker 14: I went to the UK to visit our daughter and

2142
01:44:36,492 --> 01:44:39,492
Speaker 14: our daughter shouted us a black cab tour of all

2143
01:44:39,532 --> 01:44:43,532
Speaker 14: the through Liverpool with the Beatles. Oh good, So we

2144
01:44:43,652 --> 01:44:46,692
Speaker 14: actually went to Penny Lane. Now that song is a

2145
01:44:46,772 --> 01:44:49,372
Speaker 14: story and I can picture walking down Penny Lane.

2146
01:44:50,013 --> 01:44:50,492
Speaker 5: Oh wow.

2147
01:44:51,732 --> 01:44:54,213
Speaker 14: The order of the song, like the barbershop's not even

2148
01:44:54,253 --> 01:44:58,372
Speaker 14: in Penny Lane, right, that's the very beginning. Did we

2149
01:44:58,492 --> 01:45:00,133
Speaker 14: got to see Elma Rugby's Grave.

2150
01:45:00,333 --> 01:45:01,852
Speaker 2: Oh wow, did you go to Strawberry Field?

2151
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Speaker 14: Yes?

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Speaker 17: Wow?

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01:45:04,093 --> 01:45:06,053
Speaker 14: And we also went to all the beatleshousers.

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01:45:06,372 --> 01:45:09,692
Speaker 2: Oh wow have you yep?

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01:45:09,853 --> 01:45:12,333
Speaker 9: Sorry, and we finished the night.

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01:45:12,372 --> 01:45:14,333
Speaker 14: We walked in at the Cavin Club at five o'clock

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01:45:14,372 --> 01:45:16,932
Speaker 14: on the afternoon and we left them the past three

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01:45:16,973 --> 01:45:17,532
Speaker 14: the next morning.

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Speaker 16: Wow.

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Speaker 3: What an experience or not?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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01:45:21,732 --> 01:45:23,732
Speaker 2: That is so so good. I would absolutely love to

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01:45:23,772 --> 01:45:25,372
Speaker 2: do that. I've never been to Liverpool, but that would

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01:45:25,372 --> 01:45:26,133
Speaker 2: be the first thing I do.

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Speaker 17: What.

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01:45:26,732 --> 01:45:29,732
Speaker 2: Who was that rotund late night host that everyone hates.

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01:45:30,412 --> 01:45:31,293
Speaker 3: Oh James Gordon.

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Speaker 2: So James Gordon, look it up online. There was that

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01:45:33,772 --> 01:45:38,532
Speaker 2: great Uh. He took Paul McCartney back to to Liverpool

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Speaker 2: and took him around all those spots, that's right. And

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01:45:40,812 --> 01:45:42,852
Speaker 2: he went went and visited pau mconty, visited the house

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01:45:42,893 --> 01:45:45,732
Speaker 2: he grew up, and he didn't get him free because

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01:45:45,772 --> 01:45:48,612
Speaker 2: the person didn't recognize him. It's a great documentary. And

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Speaker 2: then and then they put on a little concert and

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01:45:51,013 --> 01:45:53,093
Speaker 2: in the pub, the first pub that the Beatles ever

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01:45:53,133 --> 01:45:55,293
Speaker 2: played in, and the people there don't know that Paul

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01:45:55,333 --> 01:45:57,452
Speaker 2: McCartney's going to play. And then the curtains pulled back

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01:45:57,572 --> 01:46:00,772
Speaker 2: and there's Paul McCartney playing. I cried little litteral tears

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01:46:00,812 --> 01:46:02,213
Speaker 2: watching that. You can look it up on YouTube.

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01:46:02,692 --> 01:46:06,053
Speaker 3: We had had we had in that pub, did you

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01:46:06,492 --> 01:46:07,412
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've got.

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Speaker 7: To do this.

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01:46:07,812 --> 01:46:09,133
Speaker 2: I have asolutely got to do this.

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01:46:10,093 --> 01:46:12,372
Speaker 14: And Paul McCartney's house at the front door, the brick

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01:46:12,452 --> 01:46:14,492
Speaker 14: boat people taking news.

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01:46:14,973 --> 01:46:17,812
Speaker 2: Oh really. And and there's the piano. There's the piano

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01:46:17,893 --> 01:46:20,173
Speaker 2: that his dad used to play on, and downstairs and

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01:46:20,612 --> 01:46:22,892
Speaker 2: and and that Paul McCartney leaned to play on as well.

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01:46:22,933 --> 01:46:23,412
Speaker 2: Did you see that?

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01:46:24,893 --> 01:46:29,133
Speaker 14: Yeah? And the Kevin Club itself stars.

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01:46:33,612 --> 01:46:38,133
Speaker 2: What a fantastic experience, Doug. I've got to do that.

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01:46:38,293 --> 01:46:41,372
Speaker 2: I've absolutely got to do that. I would be skipping around,

2193
01:46:42,133 --> 01:46:44,732
Speaker 2: skipping around Liverpool, look like a little.

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01:46:44,532 --> 01:46:48,293
Speaker 3: Girl, happy little girl. What a great chat that was.

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01:46:48,412 --> 01:46:48,692
Speaker 2: Love that.

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01:46:48,853 --> 01:46:51,293
Speaker 3: It is on the back of the course Beatles sixty

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Speaker 3: four documentary by Martin Scorsese has produced it, directed by

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Speaker 3: David Desky. That is going to be streaming on Disney

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Speaker 3: Plus this weekend. So that's going to be a great watch.

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01:47:02,853 --> 01:47:05,333
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's still to come on the show Topical Tunes.

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Speaker 2: We're doing that right now.

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01:47:06,572 --> 01:47:11,133
Speaker 3: We are doing it very veryy a getting to it now,

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01:47:11,213 --> 01:47:11,652
Speaker 3: right now.

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01:47:11,572 --> 01:47:14,772
Speaker 2: All right, okay, well right, because of what we've been

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01:47:14,812 --> 01:47:18,053
Speaker 2: talking about, you have to go first, Tyler Losers.

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01:47:17,732 --> 01:47:18,452
Speaker 3: Go first today.

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01:47:18,492 --> 01:47:20,732
Speaker 2: Oh yes, it's currently five to two.

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01:47:20,652 --> 01:47:22,932
Speaker 3: To me radio. So yesterday there was quite a few,

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01:47:23,333 --> 01:47:26,172
Speaker 3: quite a bit of chat about rucks road user chargers.

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01:47:27,293 --> 01:47:30,253
Speaker 3: The suggestion that everyone's going to be charged is these

2211
01:47:30,372 --> 01:47:33,093
Speaker 3: extra taxes. But you mentioned your old e bike and

2212
01:47:33,173 --> 01:47:35,572
Speaker 3: that is going to be exempt from the ruck chargers.

2213
01:47:35,853 --> 01:47:37,973
Speaker 3: So I've gone with a bit of Queen.

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01:47:41,572 --> 01:47:48,732
Speaker 2: Great Harmonies. The best of three callers decide whose topical

2215
01:47:48,772 --> 01:47:51,333
Speaker 2: tune is the most topical and the best tune?

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01:47:51,492 --> 01:47:54,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, okay, so this is the big sell for you.

2217
01:47:54,652 --> 01:47:58,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So the New Zealand company that's received

2218
01:47:58,372 --> 01:48:00,812
Speaker 2: a lot of money from Black Rock and some money

2219
01:48:00,853 --> 01:48:04,012
Speaker 2: from the government went into liquidation this week Solar zero,

2220
01:48:04,213 --> 01:48:08,892
Speaker 2: so this is a sun based song. Also, you'll Harrison

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01:48:09,013 --> 01:48:11,692
Speaker 2: died on this day in two thousand and one. Also,

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01:48:12,412 --> 01:48:16,053
Speaker 2: the Martin Scorsese Beatles documentary that's coming out that we've

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01:48:16,133 --> 01:48:18,732
Speaker 2: just been talking about. So my topical tune O. Eight

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01:48:18,732 --> 01:48:22,053
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty first to three decides

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01:48:22,173 --> 01:48:22,852
Speaker 2: as that's.

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01:48:25,772 --> 01:48:33,772
Speaker 3: Antler tune you dirty man. Oh that is a great song,

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01:48:33,973 --> 01:48:36,772
Speaker 3: right O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty The first

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01:48:36,853 --> 01:48:40,492
Speaker 3: of three votes via phone takes it out. Get on

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01:48:40,572 --> 01:48:43,452
Speaker 3: the phones now. It is sixteen minutes to four.

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01:48:45,572 --> 01:48:47,972
Speaker 5: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

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01:48:48,013 --> 01:48:48,612
Speaker 5: along the way.

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01:48:48,853 --> 01:48:52,612
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four.

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01:48:52,772 --> 01:48:55,973
Speaker 3: You've talked sai'd be radio time for topical tunes. This

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01:48:56,213 --> 01:48:58,652
Speaker 3: is me today, wand man.

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01:49:00,452 --> 01:49:04,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Jack. It's a tenuous topical, and I think

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01:49:05,013 --> 01:49:07,053
Speaker 2: you're lacking on the topical nature of it because it's

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01:49:07,293 --> 01:49:09,892
Speaker 2: something to do with road use charges and e bike snapping.

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01:49:09,893 --> 01:49:12,973
Speaker 2: It's a very weak topical. A play there from you,

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01:49:13,333 --> 01:49:17,372
Speaker 2: good song, whereas mine. Here so many topics involved. You've

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Speaker 2: got Solar zero going into liquidation, You've got George Harrison

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01:49:21,213 --> 01:49:23,612
Speaker 2: dying today in two thousand and one, and you've got

2242
01:49:23,652 --> 01:49:26,572
Speaker 2: the new Martin Scorsese Beatles song coming out, and plus

2243
01:49:26,612 --> 01:49:31,053
Speaker 2: we're coming into summer. I mean, are you even trying.

2244
01:49:30,812 --> 01:49:33,293
Speaker 3: To you were hanging that on Solar zero. That's as

2245
01:49:33,372 --> 01:49:34,932
Speaker 3: tenuous as you can get.

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01:49:35,853 --> 01:49:38,732
Speaker 2: I just don't think you're trying essentially insulting the Electric competition.

2247
01:49:39,093 --> 01:49:42,612
Speaker 3: Right, let's go to the phones. Len, what do you

2248
01:49:42,692 --> 01:49:43,213
Speaker 3: reckon today?

2249
01:49:43,572 --> 01:49:44,213
Speaker 16: Good to know.

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01:49:45,053 --> 01:49:48,053
Speaker 2: I like the Mets song Here Comes the Sun?

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01:49:48,253 --> 01:49:50,053
Speaker 3: Yeah right, thank you Len, and I like you you

2252
01:49:50,213 --> 01:49:52,852
Speaker 3: related to Meadow you thank you very much, Len Angela.

2253
01:49:52,853 --> 01:49:53,213
Speaker 5: How are you.

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01:49:54,772 --> 01:49:55,173
Speaker 17: Hi there?

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01:49:55,893 --> 01:49:57,772
Speaker 7: I'm going for Tiler Yes.

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01:49:58,612 --> 01:50:00,253
Speaker 3: Queen bicycle race.

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01:50:00,452 --> 01:50:01,973
Speaker 2: Well, I guess there's this is gonna be the odd

2258
01:50:02,053 --> 01:50:02,692
Speaker 2: sympathy vote.

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01:50:02,772 --> 01:50:02,932
Speaker 19: Yeah.

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01:50:02,973 --> 01:50:04,452
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eight. If you

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01:50:04,532 --> 01:50:07,492
Speaker 3: can't get through, keep trying, Carl, how are you?

2262
01:50:08,572 --> 01:50:09,213
Speaker 15: You're good things?

2263
01:50:09,253 --> 01:50:09,532
Speaker 19: Buddy?

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01:50:10,173 --> 01:50:10,333
Speaker 15: Yep?

2265
01:50:10,372 --> 01:50:10,932
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

2266
01:50:11,853 --> 01:50:13,372
Speaker 16: Well, it's a hard.

2267
01:50:13,253 --> 01:50:15,093
Speaker 14: One because I live in to phone. We've got the

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01:50:15,133 --> 01:50:19,213
Speaker 14: bike race on this weekend. It's really at the same time.

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01:50:19,293 --> 01:50:20,772
Speaker 15: So I'm going for the Beatles.

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01:50:20,973 --> 01:50:24,253
Speaker 3: No, you're a good man, right, two for you, one

2271
01:50:24,372 --> 01:50:25,892
Speaker 3: for me, Jimmy Boy.

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01:50:27,013 --> 01:50:27,692
Speaker 12: Yeah, are you.

2273
01:50:27,933 --> 01:50:31,133
Speaker 9: Guys listen to You're both fantastic.

2274
01:50:31,692 --> 01:50:35,173
Speaker 21: Tyler, you gotta step up, So you got to.

2275
01:50:36,933 --> 01:50:39,213
Speaker 9: Maddy, Maddy, it's you today.

2276
01:50:39,333 --> 01:50:44,492
Speaker 16: But listen, you forgot to mention revolution, loves and leaves

2277
01:50:44,572 --> 01:50:45,892
Speaker 16: and be safe all right?

2278
01:50:49,293 --> 01:50:52,093
Speaker 2: Going on here? That's six too, Yeah, So I just

2279
01:50:52,173 --> 01:50:53,492
Speaker 2: want you to try you.

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01:50:54,612 --> 01:50:56,293
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, there's something going on here you

2281
01:50:56,412 --> 01:50:57,213
Speaker 3: paying these people off?

2282
01:50:57,293 --> 01:51:02,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look I'm just happy to hear the song. Absolute,

2283
01:51:02,933 --> 01:51:05,852
Speaker 2: that's a good song, I mate, r I p George Harrison.

2284
01:51:15,013 --> 01:51:22,492
Speaker 24: He comes the Sun, he comes the sun, Nacy, It's

2285
01:51:22,612 --> 01:51:23,372
Speaker 24: all right.

2286
01:51:27,812 --> 01:51:28,652
Speaker 19: It, Donning.

2287
01:51:29,492 --> 01:51:33,372
Speaker 24: It's been a unco don't you wind.

2288
01:51:35,253 --> 01:51:36,012
Speaker 1: It, Dolly.

2289
01:51:37,053 --> 01:51:43,773
Speaker 24: It feels like you since it's been here, he comes.

2290
01:51:43,532 --> 01:51:50,612
Speaker 19: A sun, it comes us, un Nacy, It's.

2291
01:51:50,532 --> 01:52:05,452
Speaker 24: All right, don the smiles returning to the basis.

2292
01:52:06,973 --> 01:52:07,772
Speaker 8: It do it?

2293
01:52:08,732 --> 01:52:12,333
Speaker 24: It seems like since it's been here.

2294
01:52:14,532 --> 01:52:22,933
Speaker 19: He conserts, be const nice it It's alright.

2295
01:53:03,612 --> 01:53:05,452
Speaker 3: Well, well, don't mate, I don't know what I gotta

2296
01:53:05,532 --> 01:53:07,372
Speaker 3: do to win this bloody competition.

2297
01:53:08,492 --> 01:53:09,333
Speaker 2: Better songs and better too.

2298
01:53:09,412 --> 01:53:11,093
Speaker 3: What's wrong with queen Bicycle Race?

2299
01:53:11,213 --> 01:53:13,333
Speaker 2: Well you know you're playing with the big dogs now, Tyler.

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01:53:13,532 --> 01:53:14,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, well dantastic.

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01:53:14,492 --> 01:53:17,173
Speaker 2: Speaking of the big dogs, acc head g Lane is

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01:53:17,213 --> 01:53:19,253
Speaker 2: going to join us to talk about the cricket very soon.

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01:53:19,412 --> 01:53:21,133
Speaker 3: Yeap it airs nine two four.

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01:53:23,293 --> 01:53:26,652
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:53:27,013 --> 01:53:31,013
Speaker 1: everything in between matth and Tyler Adams Afternoons You for.

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01:53:31,093 --> 01:53:34,412
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty four Used talks said bad be six to four.

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01:53:34,973 --> 01:53:38,972
Speaker 2: Welcome to the studio. Alternative commentary collective head g Lane.

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01:53:39,133 --> 01:53:42,333
Speaker 2: The cricket is slipping and sliding away.

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01:53:42,532 --> 01:53:45,452
Speaker 25: Yeah, it's delicately poised at the moment. Coming into the

2310
01:53:45,612 --> 01:53:48,492
Speaker 25: third session of day two, we had England on the ropes.

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01:53:48,772 --> 01:53:50,892
Speaker 25: Matt and Tyler, we had him on the ropes. There

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01:53:50,893 --> 01:53:53,772
Speaker 25: were seventy four for four, the now one hundred and

2313
01:53:53,853 --> 01:53:56,093
Speaker 25: seventy four for four and they are playing bas ball.

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01:53:56,173 --> 01:53:59,412
Speaker 25: Hard Olipope is fifty nine night out, Harry Brooker's fifty

2315
01:53:59,452 --> 01:54:00,013
Speaker 25: four night out.

2316
01:54:00,053 --> 01:54:01,532
Speaker 3: Harry brook has been dropped twice.

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01:54:01,812 --> 01:54:05,093
Speaker 2: See, that's how you combat bas ball, because they're gonna

2318
01:54:05,133 --> 01:54:07,173
Speaker 2: create chances. You've just got to you've got to take

2319
01:54:07,253 --> 01:54:08,293
Speaker 2: your chant.

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01:54:08,692 --> 01:54:10,932
Speaker 25: Yeah, we didn't roll them over and double tap them

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01:54:10,973 --> 01:54:12,412
Speaker 25: in the back of the head when I was seventy

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01:54:12,412 --> 01:54:14,133
Speaker 25: four for four, unfortunately.

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01:54:14,452 --> 01:54:17,253
Speaker 3: But look it's well advanced, as it always is when

2324
01:54:17,293 --> 01:54:18,452
Speaker 3: they play bas ball.

2325
01:54:18,532 --> 01:54:21,213
Speaker 2: And that's why I love basball, because there's always going

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01:54:21,293 --> 01:54:23,452
Speaker 2: to be a result. But even going back to that,

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01:54:23,973 --> 01:54:26,852
Speaker 2: we were one nine to nine for three and at

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01:54:26,933 --> 01:54:29,452
Speaker 2: that point you're thinking, come on, let's put some serious

2329
01:54:29,532 --> 01:54:31,372
Speaker 2: points on them, Let's put some let's put them on

2330
01:54:31,372 --> 01:54:33,413
Speaker 2: the back foot when they put us into bat and

2331
01:54:34,293 --> 01:54:37,373
Speaker 2: all out for three hundred and forty eight. That was disappointing.

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01:54:37,613 --> 01:54:39,653
Speaker 25: Yeah, it was a little bit, but the average first

2333
01:54:39,733 --> 01:54:42,932
Speaker 25: inning score at Hagley Oval is only two hundred and eighty.

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01:54:43,093 --> 01:54:45,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I mister, you definitely take three forty

2335
01:54:45,253 --> 01:54:46,533
Speaker 2: eight at the start of the game, you know when

2336
01:54:46,573 --> 01:54:48,173
Speaker 2: you put in. But then if you get to that

2337
01:54:48,693 --> 01:54:51,052
Speaker 2: position once again, it's the double tapping.

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01:54:51,812 --> 01:54:54,573
Speaker 25: Yeah that's right, but hey, good news. Nathan Smith on

2339
01:54:54,733 --> 01:54:57,493
Speaker 25: debut debut, the right arm quick from Wellington.

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01:54:57,812 --> 01:54:59,093
Speaker 3: He's got two for forty six.

2341
01:54:59,213 --> 01:55:01,013
Speaker 25: He bolt his second Oval was one of the most

2342
01:55:01,093 --> 01:55:04,453
Speaker 25: drama filled overs and he got he got his maiden

2343
01:55:04,493 --> 01:55:07,213
Speaker 25: Test wicket. Then he bowled two no balls in a row.

2344
01:55:07,493 --> 01:55:09,772
Speaker 25: He run up and then a clean bowl Joe route

2345
01:55:10,812 --> 01:55:12,373
Speaker 25: and then they went to lunch and then they went

2346
01:55:12,373 --> 01:55:14,173
Speaker 25: to lunch and he bought three balls the second over

2347
01:55:14,253 --> 01:55:15,653
Speaker 25: and then he had to come back out again. But

2348
01:55:15,733 --> 01:55:19,293
Speaker 25: he looks the goods, Nathan Smith. So it's it's gonna

2349
01:55:19,373 --> 01:55:21,772
Speaker 25: it's delicately poised for a weekend of cricket.

2350
01:55:22,293 --> 01:55:25,653
Speaker 2: Can people listen to the alternative commentary collective iHeartRadio.

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01:55:25,812 --> 01:55:28,533
Speaker 25: Just get on there and search for cricket. It's the

2352
01:55:28,613 --> 01:55:30,932
Speaker 25: first option that will come up the alternative commentary collective.

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01:55:30,973 --> 01:55:31,293
Speaker 11: Get on it.

2354
01:55:31,493 --> 01:55:33,213
Speaker 2: Well, I might go down and dust off the old

2355
01:55:33,293 --> 01:55:35,613
Speaker 2: microphone and do a bit of a sish with you guys.

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01:55:35,893 --> 01:55:38,453
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, a Clay Welome, thank you for

2357
01:55:38,613 --> 01:55:41,333
Speaker 2: listening to the Matt and Tyler afternoons.

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01:55:41,413 --> 01:55:45,013
Speaker 26: Everyone, what a week, have a great weekends, and give

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01:55:45,093 --> 01:56:07,093
Speaker 26: them a taste of Key Weyler.

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Speaker 1: For more from newstalkzt B, listen live on air or online,

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01:56:12,973 --> 01:56:15,333
Speaker 1: and keep our shows with you wherever you go with

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01:56:15,453 --> 01:56:17,373
Speaker 1: our podcasts on iHeartRadio.