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Speaker 1: For landlords. We've got some clarity around meth testing. The

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Speaker 1: government to set some new limits. Fifteen micrograms or more

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Speaker 1: for one hundred square meters will be flagged. If levels

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Speaker 1: at thirty micrograms, the tenants can give two days notice

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Speaker 1: to leave and the landlords have seven days to end

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Speaker 1: the tendency if they want so. Tony Mitchell is the

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Speaker 1: Residential Property Managers Association Chair and as with us, Tony, Morning.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 1: How big a deal is this?

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's good and bad. It's great that

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Speaker 2: we've got clarity and there's levels set where I guess

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Speaker 2: termination can be achieved and also clean down levels. But

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Speaker 2: it is out of step with what the scene and

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Speaker 2: the rest of the world. And look, I don't know

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Speaker 2: of any landlords who really want meth used in their properties,

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Speaker 2: and last time I checked, it's still an illegal a

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Speaker 2: class drug.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, does this land more towards the landlord or more

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Speaker 1: towards the tenant?

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Speaker 2: The it gives, well, I guess the landlord. Once you've

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Speaker 2: got a myth problem. It then lessens the burden of

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Speaker 2: of cleanup and also lessens the insurance costs as well,

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Speaker 2: so it favors I guess that the landlord once you've

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Speaker 2: actually got a measurement, but that's not really for me.

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Speaker 2: The issue. The issue is is that we shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: accepting that we have meth levels in properties and we

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Speaker 2: now don't have the ability to enforce a zero tolerance

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Speaker 2: policy within a tendency agreement because a tenant can use

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Speaker 2: up to thirty micrograms, as you mentioned, so.

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Speaker 1: If it comes in at say fourteen, you can go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's fourteen, So there's nothing that you can't touch me.

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Speaker 1: So there's something fundamentally wrong with that, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, but look, I guess good standards

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Speaker 2: would be, you know, you should be declared and disclosing

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Speaker 2: that to any new tenant. And even if you and

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Speaker 2: even if you take it a tendency tribunal, Unfortunately, it's

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Speaker 2: unlikely that the tendency tribunal would enforce the termination. Now, look,

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Speaker 2: you still have no days, no cause, but that might

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Speaker 2: only be in as long as nationals in.

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Speaker 1: Or do these things fall between stools because when you

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Speaker 1: talk about the tendency tribunal, when you talk about the

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Speaker 1: legality of meth full stop and involving the police and

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Speaker 1: the law when you're talking about the role of a landlord.

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Speaker 1: They're all sort of different things, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there are. There's quite a few different things at

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Speaker 2: play here. Look, I think for public housing it's actually

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Speaker 2: it's a clarity and it will allow a lot more

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Speaker 2: I guess flexibility or certainty around the public housing. But again,

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Speaker 2: no tenant in the private sector would want to rent

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Speaker 2: a house, or not many that I know of anyway,

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Speaker 2: would want to rent a house that's got a myth level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I got you give us a read. Rents

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Speaker 1: it down renter's market, I take it at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Still yep, yep, So it is still I have seen

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Speaker 2: various uplifts but on certain weeks. But look, it's still

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Speaker 2: a renter's market.

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Speaker 1: And mom and Dad and vest as I'm told with

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Speaker 1: the stats this week, are starting to get back into

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Speaker 1: the market. So that presumably means what pressure goes on rents.

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Speaker 2: Well, you might have more properties on the market. I

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Speaker 2: don't think pressure will go on rents because of that.

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Speaker 2: But that the problem is is with this new regulation.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a private investor, will you want

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Speaker 2: to actually put your money into a rental property where

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Speaker 2: there could be Mathews.

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Speaker 1: It's a good point, Tony, have a good week. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it very much. Tony Mitchell, who's the Residential Property

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Speaker 1: Managers Association.

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