1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Let's conclude our interview this morning with Dame Norlan Tabaru, 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: who is back with us. Nolan, when we when when 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: you were kidnapped and taken away. Let me just go 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: back to this business of there was no investigation. Are 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: you literally telling us there was no investigation at all? 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Ye's correct? 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: So what was going on between when they elevated the 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: situation in July to what happened last week where you 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: got reinstated. What literally was happening in that period of. 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Time, Well, for me, I was working with my lawyers 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: to be reinstated. That that was always my primary focus, 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: and them negotiating with the lawyers as to how we 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: could do that. So I was in survival mode, Mike, 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: and I was I was fighting for my life. So 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: that's that's really what two months was worth. 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So, just for clarity's sake, you were never told 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: why you were being stood down and there was no investigation. 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: Uh correct. 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: So what did your lawyers say? 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: Well, they said a lot, and I'm not gonna that's 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: one of the things I'm not going to repeat, but 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: they've actually said a lot. But what I can say, 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: I know I've been told actually by my mind, I 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: can you stop saying that you don't know? But what 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: I can actually say these four things that really matter 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: to me, and and those four things are about people, 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: They're about integrity, they're about process, and they're about the 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Silverfoon legacy and the game. Those are the four things 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: that matter to me the most. I will one hundred 30 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: percent listen to players, like one hundred percent. That's my 31 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: one oh one. People are what I do and I 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: actually want to win. So you know, I stand strong 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: on those four things. And I could talk to that 34 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: like to cows come home. But there's some things that 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: I just can't talk about because I yeah, okay, to 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: stay away from the words that I don't know. 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: Gail Parata we had on the program when she quit, 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: she was one of the selectors. She said that the 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: fear for her from your situation is this seems a 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: chilling message to every coach in the country that it 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: could happen to them as well as what's happened to you. 42 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: Do you have that same fear? 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, one of the learnings that I've taken out 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: of this and I'll be strongly I'll strongly advocate for 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: this moving forward. And whatever I do is that is 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: that sport is not bigger than law. And you know, 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: the law is therefore the pretention of everybody, whether it's 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: the athletes, whether it's the staff, whether it's the coach, 49 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: and everybody, and the systems or the processes that are 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: in are very clear and clean. So I sort of 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: feel that there's gaps are now in our sporting system 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: because usually what happens with coaches and and you know 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: there's plenty of examples of that, whether it's the Hagar, 54 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: what's happened with football as well. I can understand why 55 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: coaches can't hang in there because you know, it's the 56 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: reputational damage that happens. It's so public a lot of times, 57 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: and it impacts on not only you as an individual 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: your career, but also your family. So it's very clear 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: what the processes are in regards to legally what needs 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: to happen for any resolution. So you know, it's a 61 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: tough world, and I will stand really strongly in regards 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: to due process and anything like this needs to happen 63 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: moving forward. I'll be right beside those coaches. 64 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: All right, Nolan, We've got to wrap it up because 65 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: we're out of time. But I appreciate the time very much. 66 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for what you've had to go through in 67 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: this period of time, but I'm glad sort of it 68 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: seems to have worked itself out in your back. 69 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thanks for your support. 70 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Mike, not at almost to talk to you, Dame Noel 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: and Taruth. Hopefully we got enough out of that very 72 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: complicated business. It doesn't answer the question for my mind 73 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: anyway as to the dysfunction around netball New Zealand, because 74 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: you can't hide from that. 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