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Speaker 1: That is the eighteenth of September twenty twenty four. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the sixth last Daily Bespoke podcast with me on it.

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: The sixth to last daily Bespoke podcast.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you're listening to the met

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Speaker 1: Jury Show today, but there was a big announcement in

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Speaker 1: at eight fifteen that I'm leaving the met and Jury Show,

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Speaker 1: and partner passer with leaving the meton Jury Show as

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Speaker 1: I get kicked off the Daily Bespoke podcast as well.

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Speaker 2: Your hold on, You're leaving the Menton Jury Show, You're

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Speaker 2: leaving the Daily Could you at least have told me

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Speaker 2: give me heads up?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I really look blind the beef curtain here.

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Speaker 3: But this is quite a weird way to find out

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Speaker 3: of people just listen to our podcast Daily bespokely what

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Speaker 3: so this is quite an abrupt way to start the

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Speaker 3: podcast listeners.

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Speaker 1: I should actually say something nice, should I?

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Speaker 5: Oh, you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: I'm leaving the Meton Jerry Show and Daily Bespoke Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We've been doing the show for ten years eleven, I

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Speaker 1: found out, and it's been the best job I ever

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Speaker 1: had and ever. I love you guys, and it's been

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Speaker 1: freaking amazing and got a big lump in my throat,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, all good things come to an end. Unfortunately, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they just do.

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Speaker 2: It's weird because you think that they're not. Yeah, sometimes

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Speaker 2: I don't. I thought that they weren't.

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Speaker 3: If it means anything. You know, there was you know,

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Speaker 3: I generally looked at the rest of my life and thought,

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Speaker 1: I know that could be quite quite happy doing that.

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Speaker 1: a point in my life where I thought, boy, how

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Speaker 2: It's very cathartic.

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Speaker 1: It's really been one of our biggest successes really, this podcast.

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Speaker 6: Experience means good though, because if you're if you, if

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Speaker 2: You know? When do you have that thought when you're

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy to do it because I'm happy

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Speaker 1: but I just still look around and go, is there

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Speaker 5: Here? Is this?

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Speaker 1: Because why have they got me in to do another show?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: But who doesn't happen anyone even meet anyone who doesn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I deserve to be here. I deserve one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: This was my destiny. I was always going to be here.

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Speaker 5: I think some people do think they're owed more.

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Speaker 2: I mean humanity is like you to exist.

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Speaker 5: Is that you know?

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Speaker 1: You know that that that Gordy just is feeling the

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Speaker 2: Good woman.

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Speaker 2: And when do you go back to I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the original moment for you. And then going back

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Like a piece of luck there, just very lucky. I

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, you're so right, Jeremy.

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Speaker 1: You've got to be grateful and lucky that you're even here,

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Speaker 1: But when I first started Hideki, the people that have

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Speaker 2: Not not high. Yeah, So should we take a break.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's take it.

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Speaker 2: Come back more of this crep.

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Speaker 1: We've got some more some bitter content. Come back with

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Speaker 1: some more crap in my bad, with some more crap.

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Speaker 1: I've got more crap to talk about. Yeah, just talk

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Speaker 3: What you were up to next? Do you feel like

441
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Speaker 3: talking about that?

442
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Speaker 2: I do.

443
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Speaker 1: I just didn't want to talk about it too much

444
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,639
Speaker 1: on here because I wanted it to be about the

445
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 1: met and Jerry Sean and Radio Hurdeche more than about

446
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Speaker 1: what I'm doing next. If you know what I mean.

447
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,919
Speaker 1: It feels a little bit I feels a little bit disrespectful,

448
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: not at all celebrate where we are. I'm glad to

449
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 1: be where I am, and also kind of saying it

450
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Speaker 1: out loud makes it come true.

451
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Speaker 2: Come on, come on, this is come in. It's not

452
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Speaker 2: often we it's not often we get the boss of

453
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Speaker 2: the radio, the big Boss, isn't it bossive Radio? On

454
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 2: the podcast? You can finally actually add some you've been

455
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 2: criticizing this podcast for the longest time. You can actually

456
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,640
Speaker 2: finally make it better. But actually being on it. Yeah, well, I.

457
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Speaker 8: Thought you were going to say or actually just take

458
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Speaker 8: out the part.

459
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Speaker 5: He's come to lead me out of the podcast.

460
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Speaker 2: This is this is this is our boss. Welcome, thank you.

461
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've just come at the very second with

462
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Speaker 1: Jerry Cid. Are you going to say what you're doing next?

463
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Speaker 2: And have we not announced it yet?

464
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 5: We did announced it on ready.

465
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 2: On the podcast. Yeah, do you want to do you

466
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Speaker 2: want to announce it? Are we sure what you're doing?

467
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Speaker 5: Ift my job? I'm better be sure you'd have got

468
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Speaker 5: somebody go.

469
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Speaker 8: I'm still waiting on the funding to come through on

470
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Speaker 8: the work Broads program.

471
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Speaker 1: If you signed the contract, I'm just going through some

472
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Speaker 1: details around holidays, and.

473
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Speaker 8: I say, though it is a difficult, very difficult business decision.

474
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 8: I know there's lots of business people who listen to

475
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 8: this podcast that again, this podcast is super successful. I'm

476
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 8: genuinely not just saying that it is super successful. And

477
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 8: matter you and I talked about could we actually keep

478
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Speaker 8: the podcast going and do the other bit, And at

479
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Speaker 8: that stage I went.

480
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 2: Holy moly, what a hard worker wanted to do both.

481
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Speaker 8: Then I maybe thought it's slight brown nosing, but genuinely

482
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 8: we sat there and went, we're going to have to

483
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 8: sacrifice the podcast at this point, and Matt was very

484
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 8: humble and actually said, you know what, I'm sure we'll

485
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Speaker 8: find someone who he'll do it well and I'll help

486
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Speaker 8: them out whenever they need quote unquote.

487
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Speaker 2: Ah yeah, Well that doesn't surprise me. But I mean,

488
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 2: this is why this is such an interesting thing, and

489
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: because I mean, I'm embroiled in the middle of the

490
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 2: metten Jerry Show. Oviously, I'm ebroilering this podcast too. But

491
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 2: I'm also, more than anything a friend of Matt's, and

492
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: so for me, actually the most important thing is to

493
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 2: see your friend develop, and I reckon that this moved

494
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: go and work at news talk z B will be

495
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 2: a massive development in your life personally and professionally, and

496
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Speaker 2: it will be a great challenge for you. And I

497
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Speaker 2: think it's always good to have a new challenge. And

498
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Speaker 2: so whilst I think to myself selfishly, Okay, this is

499
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 2: going to be quite hard now because I'm going to

500
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Speaker 2: lose my co host and my friend, I'm genuinely happy,

501
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: genuinely happy for you because I think it will be

502
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: great for you. I really do think it'll be great

503
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: for you. I think I think it won't be great

504
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: for me. I really don't think it'd be great for

505
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: the show. But I'm genuinely because you're You're the show,

506
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: you know, and so all of a sudden, to lose

507
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: that it will be completely different, and so it will

508
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: be tough for us. But at the same time, it's

509
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: just a challenge for us and we just have to

510
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Speaker 2: work through. We'll all have our challenges. But I'm genuinely stoked.

511
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: I think you'll be an amazing talk back host. I

512
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 2: think you'll be next level. You already follow every single

513
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: news that you've read, every news article that's ever been

514
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 2: written in the last twenty years, and it's all in

515
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: there you've got a photographic memory for it. You remember

516
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: details of stuff that I've never met anyone who's got

517
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: the insane encyclopedic knowledge that you've got around news and

518
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: current events. Also, you've always got a great opinion on stuff.

519
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: It's always an interesting angle. You're confident with your angle

520
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: if you are yourself, and you've got to now with

521
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 2: you're broadcasting where you're more you than you have ever been,

522
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: and that's the hardest thing to do because you expose yourself,

523
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: you know, massively.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's leaving at this point. It's hard

525
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: because I feel like we've finally cracked.

526
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Speaker 5: It over the last couple of years.

527
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Speaker 2: I feel like we.

528
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Speaker 1: Finally cracked And that sounds crazy because if we've done

529
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: thousands of thousands of shows, but that thing you're talking about,

530
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Speaker 1: you've actually finally being who you actually are. It's for

531
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: some reason it's hard to do.

532
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: God, it's hard. And I remember early on when I

533
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: first started on radio, Dallas Gurney said to me, you

534
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: just have to be yourself. If you can be yourself,

535
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: you will succeed in radio.

536
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Speaker 5: That's what Jason won Stanley said in it just the

537
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Speaker 5: other day.

538
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Speaker 8: But you know, I always think about this, and I've

539
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 8: talked about it with all of you at different times.

540
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 8: We come in here, and you guys expose yourself every

541
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 8: day to what you do. I always think it's the

542
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 8: personal and the private right, and I think, as someone

543
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 8: who listens to a lot of radio, I want to

544
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 8: hear the personal. I don't want to hear the private. Yep,

545
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 8: there are things that are super private, but the personal.

546
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Speaker 8: I expect you those hosts in radio who turn up

547
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Speaker 8: and don't give the personal or want to be very

548
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 8: guarded with it, like people just can't bond with them,

549
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 8: and even the wonderful man upstairs Hosking, you know, it

550
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 8: still brings a personal every day. There's always some quap

551
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 8: about something going on and is very relatable life. Again,

552
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 8: the personal is super important, but you read to pick

553
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 8: up on your thing. Who I think again, why I'm

554
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 8: so proud of Matt is a game. This is about evolutions,

555
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, And that's important for all

556
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 8: of us. And I look at all of you in

557
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 8: this room who've evolved from other gigs, and radio is

558
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 8: one of those things. I always think of it like

559
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 8: a living dragon. It's always breathing that there's always fire

560
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 8: coming out at time, but it's always evolving. It never

561
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 8: stays the same. And that's with the music we play,

562
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 8: that's with the hosts we have on the air, that's

563
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 8: with our backroom stuff, and that's exciting and provides us challenges.

564
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 8: It's also sad when you've had a show like this,

565
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 8: it's been a legacy show on what is arguably New

566
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 8: Zealand's favorite radio brand, moving.

567
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: On and changing.

568
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Speaker 8: But I think that again, that change is also exciting

569
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 8: as much as there might be a bit more hard

570
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 8: work for you. And I mean, I've got about twelve

571
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 8: people on the phone here or I'm looking at possibly

572
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 8: joining you. Hell's Bears was number one. She's already texted

573
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 8: this morning saying no. I'm like, oh, that's good. Have

574
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 8: I was number two? He said, no, been there, done that?

575
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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Well, I think like that's one of

576
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: the reasons why I radio. Like so, I was just

577
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: looking at the text machine and all the people that's

578
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: texting through that have enjoyed the show. And boy radio

579
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: has a really personal you know, you talk about the

580
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: personal because it's right in people's ears. Like people get

581
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: excited about video and they get excited about all that

582
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: kind of stuff.

583
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 5: But the reason why radio just.

584
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: Keeps burning when other burning on and growing when other

585
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: mediums aren't dying, and how podcasts have just grown up

586
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: is because of that sort of personal thing, isn't it.

587
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: Because you straight into your ear holes, mate the picture,

588
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: and you talk so much you can't help but reveal

589
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: who you actually are amassively. But I think as well

590
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: because it goes words into your brain, and then as

591
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: a listener, you then create the pictures inside of your

592
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: own mind, which is so much more powerful than the

593
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: picture that the image that has created for you that

594
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 2: you then look upon. Yeah, it's quite interesting.

595
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: And that hence the face for radio thing that was

596
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: for the longest time, you know, you'd go down to

597
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: sausages or for X so when you're a kid and

598
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: you'd finally see the guy that you've been listening to

599
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh god, you're backing out of the

600
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: backing out of the car yard?

601
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 5: Is that that guy?

602
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: And how weird is it that people never look like

603
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: what they sound?

604
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 8: And I always thought you was before I met you.

605
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 8: I always thought you sounded quite short, like I always

606
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 8: thought about you'd be quite sure. And then you're this.

607
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: Whoanky guy a jury is always taller than you expect,

608
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: even when you know he's always taller. Is this terrible

609
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: person to be a because you know you got like

610
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: Duo's like John and being there about the same. But

611
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: it's been a rough it's been.

612
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 5: It's been eleven years of rough photos for me.

613
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: Rough. Yeah, it's interesting getting into people's lives and getting

614
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: and I think that thing that you said before stand

615
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: is very interesting about the personal and the private. And

616
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: I've never heard it put like that neither you should

617
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: that to both of you before clearly when clearly when I'm.

618
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 5: Sometimes people aren't ready to listen, was exactly.

619
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: But that's such an interesting part of it, and you

620
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 2: do have you give it a lot of yourself and that,

621
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: but but you want to like you want to, but

622
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: it's also got to be drawn out of you in

623
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: a funny way. Because if you turn up to radio

624
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: and you go, I'm blah blah blah bye aye aye

625
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: da da da da da da da da da, that's

626
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: really hard, like being in a studio yourself. Just talking

627
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: into a microphone into people's air holes one on one

628
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: is hard, but it's great when you've got a friend

629
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 2: with you, who can who knows you, who pulls bits

630
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: out about you, who asks questions which are often incredibly

631
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 2: pointed but reveal a huge amount, and then you can

632
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: say something back, and you're essentially just interviewing someone else

633
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: the whole time. And then the listeners get to hear

634
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: that because I reckon, you know, between Matt and I,

635
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: actually what people have, people have listened to and witnessed

636
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: or witness but through there being a part of through

637
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: listening is a is an evolving relationship, Like that's the

638
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's a it's actually an evolving relationship.

639
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: Our relationship's changed over eleven years. It changed just quite

640
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: a lot.

641
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 8: Great though that I mean, I think this is the

642
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 8: other wonderful thing is we do, especially at Radiohodachi and

643
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 8: on this podcast, have a wonderful audience who enjoy that,

644
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 8: want to be part of it, interact with us. We

645
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 8: have we do pub quizes or whatever. They're there and

646
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 8: they love being part of it as well. And I

647
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 8: think that's also the part. When you do hang yourself

648
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 8: out there and say some things or reveal stuff about yourself,

649
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 8: you know, it's a secure place because you know the

650
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 8: audience is with you on that.

651
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: You know, they're not.

652
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 8: Always going to agree with you, but they again like

653
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 8: we'll have a laugh or again have an opinion on it,

654
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 8: and are there.

655
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: With you, and you know, well you're in here. I mean,

656
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: NZ is a great company for supporting Men and Jerry

657
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: show for so long and allowing us to be who

658
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: we are, and then even now to go, oh, well,

659
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: you're interested in me developing in different ways, And I

660
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: mean that's not not every company is like that, you know, like.

661
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 5: A lot of places would have shut the man Jerry

662
00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: down to showdown for about three we try a company

663
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 5: like you should have should have.

664
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: The fact that we've the fact that we've done it

665
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: for eleven years, and we will finish the show friends,

666
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: and there's zero animosity, happy for each other as such

667
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: a good result. Oh my god. I was terrified, to

668
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: be honest. I was terrified that one day some horrific

669
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: thing would happen. I'd have to leave, or you'd have

670
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: to leave in some cloud of controversy, and someone would.

671
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: Be succeeded on I finally succeeded and you know, hooking

672
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: up with Tolsi or something.

673
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: There was always a fear in the back of my mind,

674
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: and then for the rest of my life, I'd see

675
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: here and you would never forgive me, but I forgive me.

676
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, no, you're on that right.

677
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 8: We hire good people, and I don't. I don't mean

678
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 8: that to be contrite. I want good people with good

679
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 8: attitudes right from the top to the bottom, as does

680
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 8: our board in our CEO. Right, And you sit there

681
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 8: and go, We're not always going to have the most

682
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 8: amazing people, but as long as I've got a good attitude,

683
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 8: do you know what? And that's where I think everyone,

684
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 8: and all four of you in this room come with

685
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 8: a good attitude every day. And I know that sounds

686
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 8: so trite, and you shouldn't of course the boss going

687
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 8: to say that, but it makes a difference because you've

688
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 8: got to light the people you work with as well.

689
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: I remember when I first started it, ready I had

690
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: to have told the story already today, I think. But Reggie,

691
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: who was the boss, he said, man, this is the

692
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: way it works. Either you will fire you and you'll

693
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: fucking hate us or on or you'll leave us and we'll.

694
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 5: Fucking hate you. But it never ends well. But you've

695
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 5: got to enjoy it while you're here.

696
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 9: It generally if someone has to move on or someone

697
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 9: leaves you, and if you're leaving for another if I

698
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 9: was leaving for another company, then it'll.

699
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: Be very differently.

700
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 5: Hit him out the door.

701
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have the lovely coordination that Jason's done for

702
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: for everything. I mean, you wouldn't have that, you would

703
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: have the smooth transition. You wouldn't have the media inside

704
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: a writing a beautiful article.

705
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: You know what was going on, the media inside of

706
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: Shane carry.

707
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 8: How can I just say one thing on this? So

708
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 8: this building is three floors at dB Towers, right, can

709
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 8: sound like it's really a lustrious It's.

710
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: Like a whole room.

711
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 8: So basically, when Matt and I wanted to have a chat,

712
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 8: I was like, originally, like, it's glass everywhere. I can't

713
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 8: have a chat on this floor because I do on

714
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 8: this floor like you would see Jerry and go, why

715
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 8: am I not in that meeting with the boss and Matt?

716
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 8: Something going on here? Is this about to be the

717
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 8: met show? And then I thought, Okay, we'll do it

718
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 8: on the first floor.

719
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 5: That's where the media inside.

720
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 8: Walking in with the meeting of Matt, he goes hello.

721
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: And he's right by the door of the media inside. Yes,

722
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: he is.

723
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 8: So then we had to find this little room in

724
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 8: the back back area of level two and I rang

725
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 8: me and said, do you know where this room is?

726
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 8: He goes, no idea where this room?

727
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: Come around behind eight jar finance and all that.

728
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 8: Try to like hold your jacket over your head because

729
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 8: they'll all be watching.

730
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: Anyway, we found in the room. It's quite a good room.

731
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: Good view. It's a beautiful room.

732
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, yeah, I feel like some terrible things have

733
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: happen there over the years, but it's a good room.

734
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: There's a few ghosts in there, but it's a good room.

735
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, bless that was Boxy.

736
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for coming in. I will find someone

737
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: good though. Yeah, well you will have to talk about that. Yes,

738
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: have you got a few ideas. I've got some ideas,

739
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: so I've got No, you haven't done the idea.

740
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 8: I know, I got some ideas.

741
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got some ideas. Yeah. It's the tricky thing.

742
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 5: You know, my bloody.

743
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: Granddad's buried. It's going to be a completely different show.

744
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: That's the thing is this is completely different. One person

745
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: is the same, but it will be complete be completely

746
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: different differently, So that's that's that's going to be challenge. Yeah,

747
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: well he's easily slight hesitation there. Well, I was just

748
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: thinking there's been a few, but I answered I had

749
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: to think. But that's an honest answer. Yes, I mean

750
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: eleven years is a that's a long time. Seriously every morning,

751
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: and there's an intimacy that comes with doing radisho where

752
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: you come into this glass box and then you've got

753
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: to trust the person who you're with. You've got to

754
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: trust the ability of the other person when you chuck

755
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: them something that they can keep the ball in the

756
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: air all the time. And Matt can always keep the

757
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 2: ball in the air. There's no problem there, Jerry.

758
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: You've talked about their things somehowsts you you know, you

759
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: play it to them and then they.

760
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they slam it.

761
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. The exhibition game of tennis, which you're playing basically

762
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: exhibition tennis, so you go back and forward, your four hand,

763
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: back hands, sort of play it straight to them. You

764
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: play with some people and they're trying to work you

765
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: into the corners all the time, and then they're up

766
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: and you're trying to put it away. It's like, hold on,

767
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: we've only just started the point. We need to be

768
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: talking for another two minutes here, and you've tried to

769
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: put away a smash and it's like, no, there's a

770
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: time for the smash, and it's going to come in

771
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: another two minutes. Matt knows how to put away the smash.

772
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: He knows how to keep the ball in the air,

773
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: and he knows how to work the ball into the corners.

774
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes occasionally he'll miss it completely, but you know, he

775
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: knows how to play exhibition tennis.

776
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you for going away for a bit to

777
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 8: recover from this announcement.

778
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: Recover. I'm going away with acc here G Lane on

779
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: my bose trip to Amsterdam and to Bloody Munich. I'm

780
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: going to come back. The issue is we're coming back

781
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: for one week and the last week of the Matt

782
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: and Jury Show from the thirtieth of September through to

783
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: the fourth of October. And I'm going to be coming

784
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: off the back of a six day, huge six a

785
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: bender with a massive Longhl flight coming up the back

786
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 2: of it. I'm going to be emotional. I get emotional

787
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: when i'm tired. Particularly, I'm going to be crying for

788
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: basically a week. I'm hopeless. I'm very sentimental. I can't

789
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: say anything that.

790
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Men, that's the best radio teas I've ever heard of,

791
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: a week of week of Jerry crying on a freaking

792
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: tune into that.

793
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 8: Absolutely, congratulations, Matts, see you later.

794
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: That's let's that's that's the Boss, the Boss of the

795
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: Boss Boss.

796
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

797
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I should say something a little bit

798
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: more genuine just the end day, like for the just

799
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: the daily bespokey dokey saying.

800
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because.

801
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: This is the most this podcast is the broadcast that

802
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: we do. I think we might have already said this,

803
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: but it might time not in the whole thing, but

804
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: it's the it's the it's the bookcast we were most

805
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: just being for mates.

806
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: Can I also just say, before you do this to

807
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: the bespoking dookies, is the things that you've done? I

808
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: know this is sound, this sounds actually quite nap, but

809
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: how hard you've put the podcast means a lot to you.

810
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 3: In fact, I think it probably means the most to

811
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: you in terms of all the things that you've done.

812
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 5: Maybe here a radio.

813
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 3: I love the podcast so many times, you love the control.

814
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: Since I've been here has just tried to be you know,

815
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: shut down or less or more different things change and

816
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But every day, the given is that

817
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: you always want to do a great podcast and you

818
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: always want to make sure that it's going out to

819
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: the people that listen, and the bespoking dookies really are

820
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: the people that love you the most. And it's going

821
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: to be absolutely fucking gutted right now as we all are.

822
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you guys will still be with them, you know,

823
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: and a little bit of that, and I'll be in

824
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: the radio show. I'm actually quite looking forward to being

825
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: just like a person that has a radio show that

826
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: drives in to work listening to you guys.

827
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: Up with your kids in the morning.

828
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

829
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: Oh that's quite an emotional thought.

830
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately they grew massive in the interim.

831
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: I missed the whole bit we actually get up and

832
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: make them breakfast and actually you know, put their backpack

833
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: on and seend them off to score.

834
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 5: I missed all of that.

835
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: But thank you for what you've done now.

836
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 5: It's fantastic.

837
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: Well you do, Mash, it was phenomenal, Like you run

838
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: the cutter on on on it. It's bloody and bloody

839
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: impressive and you too, ruder and yeah, and thank you

840
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: for all your lovely words.

841
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 5: Today, Jerry.

842
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: You know when when I was reading out that bit

843
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: about you Jeremy on the live broadcast, Boy, it's hard

844
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: to actually just sit and say what you really mean

845
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: to a friend. I mean, you can say that to

846
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: a lover, but to a friend, and I just think,

847
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, you know.

848
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 5: What I said there.

849
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: I basically at one point I said I love you, man,

850
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: and and I just think that's something that we all

851
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: need to remember, not just on these goodbye occasions, to actually,

852
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, say that to our mates. Yeah, actually say

853
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: those things that you feel. And it's just on these

854
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: big moments you say them, but you if you can

855
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: actually go to that deeper level with your friends on

856
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: a more regular basis, I think life would be it

857
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: would be better.

858
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 7: Can I peel back the curtain a little bit as well?

859
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 7: You talk about life being like living in a simulation,

860
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 7: and I don't think it's been said, but yesterday you

861
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 7: and Jerry both said to me and Matt separately, hey, guys,

862
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 7: can we have a little coffee after the after the show.

863
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 7: And you'd suspect that something is up because we saw

864
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 7: you guys having meetings before we went and had this

865
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 7: coffee meeting. But then men mash We're like, what the

866
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 7: fuck is going on? And then I thought, well, it

867
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 7: can't be that big because we're in the middle of

868
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 7: a public place. There's some guy over there just on

869
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 7: his phone. You know, it's just going to media inside something.

870
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: Who is the media insider, who's that anxieties everywhere? It's

871
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 2: just going to be something small.

872
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 7: And so basically in the space of twenty four hours,

873
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 7: we've obviously been turned quite upside down.

874
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. It must be interesting for

875
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: you guys, because.

876
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 7: It's been a heck of a ride and it was

877
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 7: a very you know, it was very emotional.

878
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 5: And I feel about that. There was there was there.

879
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: Was as being signed everywhere.

880
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: And.

881
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised there's nobody being held there.

882
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 5: Don't you worry about that.

883
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's lots of moving parts and all that kind.

884
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 7: Of actually sent me a message this morning when he

885
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 7: was on his way and going, Wow, big day, and

886
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 7: I just said, I actually feel sick in my stomach

887
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 7: because I could feel the butterflies and I knew it

888
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 7: was coming, but I managed to kind of hold it together,

889
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 7: and I just wanted to pay tribute to a couple

890
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 7: of people managed to kind of hold it together through

891
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 7: your through your speech this morning, your wounded, as you said,

892
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 7: that was the word I was trying to find because.

893
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 5: The one thing.

894
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 7: Hopefully prepared wounded, because the one thing that struck me

895
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 7: from what you said, Maddie was.

896
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: When you started your mum was alive.

897
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's a year today since my dad died.

898
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 5: Oh, and I've been building up to a week.

899
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 7: Oh and so like seeing that coming like a fucking

900
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 7: freight train a week and then yesterday happens, and that

901
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 7: was and then what you said, and I was like.

902
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: Simulation, simulation. I wonder, when Matt Tonian is you look

903
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: you really looked. You look quite shocked. Oh, you know,

904
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: I could see you were processing a lot of stuff.

905
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of emotion going on. I wonder, sorry

906
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: for not being across down.

907
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: But it is funny because, like you know, with your

908
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: father passing and my mum and all the different things

909
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: and kids coming into the world and all the stuff

910
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: that people go through. That's what when you're on a

911
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: job this long and this close to each other, boy,

912
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: you do live people's.

913
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: Ups and downs, ay you?

914
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because when my mom died and I just

915
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: came into had to come into work because my dad said,

916
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: go to work before you come down. And then and then,

917
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot to lay on someone to

918
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: come and just go, oh hey, Jerry, my my my

919
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: mum died last night. So just so you know, oh, yeah,

920
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: that was that was intense. I remember that well, it

921
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: was the old studio. It must have been the first

922
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: year that we were doing on maybe it was the

923
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: second year.

924
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: Was it?

925
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 5: Wow?

926
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: But I was like, wow, man, the commitment of this guy.

927
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: I remember Laura and I say, no, you definitely don't

928
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: want to come in. You're like, no, I need to come.

929
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to don't come. What are you talking about?

930
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes, if I could go back, I

931
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: would have been not so committed in some occasions. I

932
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: mean I didn't go on certain holidays because I knew

933
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: it was an important time for the show and we

934
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: needed to be working on our numbers for something.

935
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 5: And I look back and.

936
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: Go then you'd get a survey result that was like

937
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: you don't even know what it meant. Like, I mean,

938
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say ever to not be as committed as

939
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: we all are, but I mean I think, Jerry, you've

940
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: got a term.

941
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 5: It's sustainable.

942
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's and you know you're going forward as

943
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: in a young a young broadcaster. MESSI it's not that day,

944
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: it's that week and that month and that year. Yeah,

945
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: is the show. It's not like an episode of a

946
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: TV show. It's a it's a year of a radio show.

947
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: So you got to take the holidays, and you gotta,

948
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, take the days off, and you gotta, I

949
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: don't know, you gotta got to think about the big

950
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: picture because that one show is not the difference. No,

951
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: one week is not the difference.

952
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: No, it's not. But yeah, I remember that day, and

953
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: I remember the thing that I was amazed because I

954
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: originally you weren't there for the beginning part of it,

955
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: and I remember we called you and you were. I

956
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: just remember for the first time I spoke to you,

957
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: you were. You seem like you were so distant and

958
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: massively in shock. I'll never forget it. And I thought

959
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: to myself, and this is this is the worst. But

960
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, hold on, you're not even here

961
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: on time, and you sound like you're not even apologetic

962
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: because I didn't know at that stage that you mama died,

963
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: and I was fair enough Jesus. He doesn't seem like

964
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: he gives a ship. He's not even in here.

965
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe, maybe maybe I'm open with a bit of anology.

966
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: That's terrible. And then and then I don't know if

967
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: you see anything until you got in. I think you

968
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: got it wasn't until you got in that you see

969
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: what had happened. And I was and Laura and I

970
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: are like, oh my god, no, You've got to go home.

971
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: You're like, no, no, I've got to do the show.

972
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: It's important for me that I've got to do this.

973
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: So you went from he kind of be fun coming

974
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: in and saying sorry, and he's not saying something about

975
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 1: it till he's going to go through.

976
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna message so much. Ben.

977
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Men, same too, Men. Camp.

978
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: There was there was there was before Mash, and then

979
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: there was Mash and it was like you it was

980
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: like it was like you'd been there the whole time.

981
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: You just you just slipped in with us so seamlessly.

982
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: It was like.

983
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: So kind, we were just like always because we've had

984
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people, but you were just that, you

985
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: were just there. It was like the first day you

986
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: were on it was like you've been there for ten years,

987
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: you know, and it's still as well.

988
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: Thank you mate. Well, I love you, and then we'll

989
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: be back in a week and a half, won't we.

990
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right then enough self sourcing Jesus. All right,

991
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 5: you've seem busy.

992
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: We'll that you go.

993
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 5: Love you, Love you all, Thank you so much.

994
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: Love you mate, Love you particularly bespoke you donkies, You're

995
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: the best of us, all right, Love you boys, Love

996
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: you mate.

997
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 5: Hello, I'm Matt Heath.

998
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,800
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1009
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: let you go. Bless blessed, blessed.

1010
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 5: Give them a taste of key We from me