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Speaker 1: Talk sai'd be, I don't mind a g string at

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Speaker 1: a swimming pool personally. We'll talk about that later on

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Speaker 1: Right now though, for your ute, the Clean Car Importer

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Speaker 1: standards are set to be lowered to align with Australia's

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Speaker 1: emission standards. The adjustments will see a softening of the

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Speaker 1: CO two targets for commercial vehicles, including utes. The Clean

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Speaker 1: Car standard penalties as they stand would see people paying

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Speaker 1: an extra five and a half thousand dollars when purchasing

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Speaker 1: certain types of vehicles by twenty twenty seven, so that

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Speaker 1: money could be saved. Kirsten Coulson is the chair of

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Speaker 1: Drive Electric and is with me this morning. A Kirston,

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Speaker 1: good morning to you. I won't ask about the g

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Speaker 1: strings at the pools, but we will ask about the utes.

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Speaker 1: Is this heading in the right direction or the wrong direction?

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Speaker 2: Look, that's heading in the wrong direction. It's really clear

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Speaker 2: already from the data that the emission standards of our

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Speaker 2: vehicles in New Zealand have increased in twenty three So

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Speaker 2: we're heading in the wrong direction completely.

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Speaker 1: Why should we be doing any better than Australia.

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Speaker 2: Well, this legislation is set to align with Australia but

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Speaker 2: actually it doesn't. Australia have got penalties that are a

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Speaker 2: lot tougher in New Zealand, and Australia also has federal

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Speaker 2: and state incentives at in every state in Australia, so

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Speaker 2: it's much more appealing to go ev in Australia than

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Speaker 2: it is in New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: What's their uptake? Because we're what two percent of athlete

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Speaker 1: are we still all?

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Speaker 2: We're two percent? And if you look at last year,

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Speaker 2: we were sitting at around twenty seven percent of new

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Speaker 2: cow sales we're electric, and this year we've gone down

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Speaker 2: to eight percent. If we look I guess at our

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Speaker 2: really big trading partners where we've got fair trade agreements,

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Speaker 2: China is looking at forty five percent new cow sales

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Speaker 2: are electric, Europe's looking at twenty five percent, and the

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Speaker 2: US is looking at eleven percent. So you know, we've

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Speaker 2: got trading agreements where we've got a commitment to decabine

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Speaker 2: and those partners are decalbinizing. But clearly we're not at

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Speaker 2: the moment.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you would like to see this, You would

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Speaker 1: like to see the government basically reverse this. You want

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Speaker 1: to see I mean, the Ford range is still is

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Speaker 1: that still a most popular vehicle sold vehicle it was

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Speaker 1: for a few years. They're running kiwis obviously like buying them,

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Speaker 1: and there's a cost of living crisis. So isn't there

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Speaker 1: a you know, isn't there an argument to take the

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Speaker 1: the accelerator accelerator a little bit?

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Speaker 2: Look, if the government was truly serious about saving kiwi's money,

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Speaker 2: they would be supporting them to get into EV's And

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Speaker 2: the reason being that, Ryan, if you charged your EV

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Speaker 2: at home overnight, off peak, you'd be paying around two

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Speaker 2: dollars per one hundred kilometers. If you're paying for petrol

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Speaker 2: on a six point nine liter vehicle, you're paying around

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Speaker 2: twenty dollars per one hundred kilometers. So absolutely, there is

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Speaker 2: the cost of living crisis.

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Speaker 1: The road user charge will change, will take care of that,

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Speaker 1: won't it?

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Speaker 2: User charges We're still paying twenty three percent more than

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Speaker 2: a petrol vehicle and EV but still over a total

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Speaker 2: cost of ownership model evs are still substantially cheaper.

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Speaker 1: All right, we will leave it there, Kirston, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much for your time. Kirsten Couson, the chair of

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Speaker 1: Drive Electric, responding to news there that the clean car

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Speaker 1: and Porter standards are set to be lowered. They will

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Speaker 1: be aligned with Australia, though as Kirsten has pointed out,

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Speaker 1: there are other differences in that equation too. For more

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