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Speaker 2: Hi deck you on a good afternoon. Welcome in to

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Speaker 2: the Sunday edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks edby

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Speaker 2: August three, Happy forty eighth birthday to seven times Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl champion Tom Brady and Happy fortieth today, Sonny Bill Williams.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine Show producer Anny McDonald. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk sport with you until three. How good is Matt Henry?

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Speaker 2: Very good? In the last couple of years he has

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Speaker 2: unquestionably become our most valuable bowler across all three international

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Speaker 2: cricket formats. Has he always been this good and just

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Speaker 2: needed to be patient behind some pretty handy seam bowlers

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Speaker 2: and Soudy Bolton Wagner or has his craft improved markedly well?

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Speaker 2: Both one of our best bowling coaches, Dale Hadley, to

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Speaker 2: lead us off on that and then current Black Cabs

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Speaker 2: bowling coach at Jacob Oorhmer. But later in the hour

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Speaker 2: I'm keen to know from you as well where you

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Speaker 2: think Matt Henry now sits among our great fast bowlers.

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Speaker 2: We've had some brilliant ones. I just mentioned three of them.

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Speaker 2: Then you add Sir Richard into that as well and others.

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Speaker 2: Where does Matt Henry rank? Because I don't think that

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Speaker 2: of his career? He might? But right now how good's

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Speaker 2: he going? And do you feel optimistic about the future

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Speaker 2: of our pace attack with a number of young emerging

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Speaker 2: fast bowlers. Want to kick around some cricket with you

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Speaker 2: this hour, and we've got the opportunity. Other matters around

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Speaker 2: today the All Blacks Rugby Championship squad name tomorrow who

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Speaker 2: Black season? Two tests saway and Argentina, two big tests

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Speaker 2: at home against South Africa home and away, let us

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Speaker 2: Low Cup matches against Australia. Came for your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: Keew We pro cyclist Corbyn Strong is on the show.

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Speaker 2: He won his first European event, claiming general classification on

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Speaker 2: his last week in Belgium and the Tour de Waloni.

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Speaker 2: He's going to join us to reflect on that success

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Speaker 2: and what might lie ahead for him. And while we're

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Speaker 2: on the subject of cycling, Zach Prendergast became over the

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Speaker 2: last month or so the first New Zealander to officiate

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Speaker 2: on the iconic Tour de France. He's just back from

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Speaker 2: serving as a technical commissaire during the twenty twenty five event.

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Speaker 2: He's going to join us this afternoon to tell us

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Speaker 2: about his experiences over there. But been a big week

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Speaker 2: at Phoenix HQ. And you coach for the women's team,

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Speaker 2: and not just any coach, Olympic gold medal winning coach,

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Speaker 2: Bev Priestman. We all know the story behind this one

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Speaker 2: with the drone flying scandal of a year ago in Paris.

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Speaker 2: But now she is going to guide at the Wellington

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Speaker 2: Phoenix Women for the next couple of seasons. And they've

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Speaker 2: added another high profile signing, fifty cap football firm CJ

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Speaker 2: Bots comes to the club. So might the Phoenix Women

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Speaker 2: be a league contenders this coming season? We'll drill down

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Speaker 2: into that. Liam Lawson's made the top ten in qualifying

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Speaker 2: for the third time in the last four Formula One

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Speaker 2: for the Hungarian Grand Prix tomorrow morning. His team mate

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Speaker 2: Isaac Hadjara's tenth, charl leclair on Pold and the Ferrari

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Speaker 2: from the two McLaren's of Piastre and Norris Max forstap

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Speaker 2: In eighth and poor old Yuki Sonoda and the other

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Speaker 2: we can talk some Formula one. James mcconey as always

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Speaker 2: on a Sunday in his regular slot, but a live

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Speaker 2: sport this afternoon in PC Action, Round one continues tod

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Speaker 2: on a domain bay of plenty. The Steamers up against

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Speaker 2: the Tasman Muckel five past two. Going to set the

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Speaker 2: scene for you before kickoff and keep you posted once

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Speaker 2: the game is underweight and it's Magic round. In the NRL,

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Speaker 2: the Warriors Women are a newcastle along with all of

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Speaker 2: you as well. Please join us this afternoon if you

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Speaker 2: at NEWSTALKZB dot co dot Nz. Just gone eleven past midday.

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Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails weekend

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Speaker 2: Matt Henry has become the undoubted spearhead of the black

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Speaker 3: Edge is it taken?

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Speaker 2: Yes it is.

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Speaker 4: It was a matter of time about the subtle adjustments

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Speaker 4: What a bowling change from Mitsanna on the stroke of lunch.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there, edge on that is that bad? Yes,

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Speaker 5: Let's give you a simple catch you off the helmet

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Speaker 5: Umpius giving it straight away must have been the glove

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Speaker 2: A brilliant performance this morning. The leader of this attack Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the leader indeed wicked after wickeed after wicket nine for

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Speaker 2: his value to New Zealand, with hopefully a lot more

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Speaker 2: sixth on our all time list of international wicket taking bowlers.

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Speaker 2: Dale Hadley was an accomplished I've seen bowler himself, taking

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Speaker 2: class career which spanned seventeen years. Dale Hadley then became

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Speaker 2: a bit about Matt Henry. Dale, thanks for your time.

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Speaker 2: Where did you first become aware of Matt Henry.

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Speaker 6: I think my first contact with him was in his

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Speaker 6: very early teenage years when he was involved in Kanty

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Speaker 6: No, not really, because I remember him as a young

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Speaker 2: So what then happened in the early stages that allowed

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Speaker 6: I think, to be fair, he's one of these boys

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Speaker 6: who really dedicated to him improving their self. He was

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Speaker 6: And over the years he's refined himself into becoming an

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Speaker 2: In terms of those refinements, Dale, where have you seen

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Speaker 2: that the big improvements in his bowling, you know, in

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Speaker 6: I think what he's done is that Tep technically had

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Speaker 6: I think what's happened is he's developed a pace where

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Speaker 6: But he's a bowler who bowls a good length and

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Speaker 6: it's got he hits the scene more often than not.

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Speaker 6: It makes him extremely dangerous.

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Speaker 2: When you talk about those technical issues, Can you just

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Speaker 2: drill down into that for us? What was he What

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Speaker 6: It's what a bowling coaches call a backfoot drift when

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Speaker 6: he takes off on his left foot is landing backfoot

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Speaker 6: he's rehab very well after stress fracture, and even though

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Speaker 2: Is something like that challenging to fix When a guy

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Speaker 6: Long, it's very difficult to fix. And there's a lot

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Speaker 6: Ideally you want all the feet lining up, backfoot, front foot,

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Speaker 2: How much variation have you seen him develop in his

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Speaker 6: I think the things I've been really impressed with is

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Speaker 2: The red ball, dal do you see him bowling more

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Speaker 2: he just better at building pressure that leads to batsman

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Speaker 6: I think he's so consistent now that he just doesn't

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Speaker 2: And has red bull bowling compared to his white ball bowling.

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Speaker 2: He's been equally effective recently across both. Can you just

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Speaker 6: Now the white ball, I mean, he can make the

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Speaker 6: he hits the scene and I think that is important.

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Speaker 6: And he can vary his length. He controls his length excellently.

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Speaker 6: And I love the other fact that he can bowl

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Speaker 2: He doesn't really have that sort of that nasty, fasty

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Speaker 2: very rarely see him sledge a batsman or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: He just kind of he seems like he just gets

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Speaker 2: on with it. Is that what you're seeing?

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Speaker 6: That's exactly right. He smiles a lot, and I think

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Speaker 6: that's a great thing for a bowl of the zoo,

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Speaker 6: rather than getting angry and that when you get angry,

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Speaker 2: Maybe others could take a lesson from that. We know

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Speaker 2: how difficult it was for him to get on the

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Speaker 6: I think it must have been very difficult, but he

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Speaker 2: some stage. Incidentally, I don't know what the latest is

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Speaker 2: on him, but hopefully he'll be there or thereabouts when

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Speaker 2: the summer rolls around. I think for a while we

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Speaker 2: wondered where the next wave was coming from. Would there

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Speaker 2: be a new wave of fast bowlers, But it seems

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Speaker 2: as though there are a couple of textra here. Excellent

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Speaker 2: comments from Darl Headley. Yeah, it's good to hit darl

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Speaker 2: Headley again. Andy's suggestion. We were talking the week this

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Speaker 2: week about talking about Matt Henry, who could we get

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Speaker 2: to talk about him? And he said, what about Dale Hadley?

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Speaker 2: Which is impressive really because Andy wouldn't remember Dale Hadley.

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Speaker 9: I do.

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Speaker 2: Luke says, great to hear Dahl Heppy on the radio. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I totally agree. We would have won the last Champions

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Speaker 2: Trophy probably if Henry wasn't injured, and the World Cup

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Speaker 2: semi final before that as well. That demonstrates his value.

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Speaker 2: Mrs says Henry probably should have been there a couple

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Speaker 2: of years earlier. Yeah, And I think do you heard

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Speaker 2: Dale Haley just ever so slightly allude to that, didn't

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Speaker 2: you when he talked about the back end of Tim

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Speaker 2: Southey's career and when Tim Southy was made Test captain

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Speaker 2: and there four took up, you know, by virtue of

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Speaker 2: the fact he was the captain a place on the

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Speaker 2: side where maybe there was a suggestion, especially on the Subcontinent,

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Speaker 2: that if you're going to play only a couple of bowlers,

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Speaker 2: you need to bowl your fastest and your best, and

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Speaker 2: Tim Southey was neither of those at that time, Matt

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Speaker 2: Henry had had to wait. But patience is a virtue.

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Speaker 2: As they say, good things come to those who wait.

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Speaker 2: I eight hundred and eighty ten to eighty talking some

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Speaker 2: cricket Jacob Orham before one o'clock. But your calls are welcome.

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Speaker 2: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty nineteen ninety two for

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Speaker 2: your text messages. Back with more after this the Voice

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Speaker 2: of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend Sport with

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Speaker 2: Jason Vane and GJ. Gunner homes New Zealand's most trusted

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Speaker 2: home builder News talks'd be twenty seven to one talking

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Speaker 2: Matt Henry.

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Speaker 10: Hello, jealous, Yeah, great, great interview, Parni and yeah, thank

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Speaker 10: you to they are happy. I member watching him on

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Speaker 10: black and white television too.

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Speaker 2: Jealous me too. You know, I think, obviously Sir Richard's

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Speaker 2: the one we all remember when it comes to the Hadleys,

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Speaker 2: but you forget about Darling, and there was Barry the

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Speaker 2: other brother, and of course Walter the father for talking

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Speaker 2: black and white television. But you know it was good

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Speaker 2: to hear from Darlow and George Eddington.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Well, in the early stage he was up there with

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Speaker 11: Richard Richard was coming off that long run that Dale

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Speaker 11: was a shorter run up, wasn't he, And got that

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Speaker 11: away swing And yeah, he was a very very good

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Speaker 11: bowler Dale Hadley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was. He probably lived in the

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Speaker 2: shadow a little bit of Sir Richard and the others

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Speaker 2: at that time, and likes of I guess Richard Collins

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Speaker 2: was around at that time, wasn't he in a couple

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Speaker 2: of others? But three hundred and fifty first class wickets,

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Speaker 2: it's not to be sneezed at.

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Speaker 11: It's interesting fast bawlers say, they're all different. He had

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Speaker 11: Murray Webb. Do you remember seeing him?

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Speaker 2: I do, I do remember. Yeah, he was all over

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Speaker 2: the place, wasn't he in the nicest possible way. He'd

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Speaker 2: got a sort of arms and legs as he ran in.

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Speaker 11: And that last leap, the leap into the air would

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Speaker 11: scaped him that you know, momentum.

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Speaker 6: And he was super quick.

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Speaker 2: Was he Richard Webbs? Was he Richard Webb's brother? Were

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Speaker 2: they brothers? There was Richard Webb. He wasn't quite as quick,

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Speaker 2: but he played a little bit for New Zealand as well.

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Speaker 11: I remember I was talking to a guy who played

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Speaker 11: against Murray Webb and planked a shield, you know, and

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Speaker 11: he said, I didn't see it. I faced him for

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Speaker 11: an over. I didn't see a braall so.

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Speaker 8: Too so.

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Speaker 11: And then you had Gary Bartlett.

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Speaker 2: I've written down, Dallas, I just wrote down in front

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Speaker 2: of me, Gary Butler, just as she's written it down.

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Speaker 2: He because he was rapid, absolutely rapid. You talk to

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Speaker 2: the guys who faced Gary Bartlett. I remember talking to

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Speaker 2: remember Jock Edwards who used to play for New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: the late Jock Edwards. He see Gary, Gary Bartlett was

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Speaker 2: absolute lightning to face.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, amazing pace. But I guess you know they

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Speaker 11: don't laugh long. These really separate din't In those days?

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Speaker 11: They didn't have the sort of technique to keep going.

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Speaker 11: Do they just sort of broke down? Yeah, I guess

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Speaker 11: with injuries. Yeah, But I think that was an understanding

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Speaker 11: of view. I think we can all agree that sour

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Speaker 11: the with Orduary respect played on a season too long,

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Speaker 11: you know, that's my opinion. Anyway, I think a lot

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Speaker 11: of people would hear that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Matt Henry was It wasn't like there was

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Speaker 2: no one to come in, because Matt Henry was there,

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Speaker 2: ready to come in as a as a replacement was

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Speaker 2: bowling well, whenever he got the opportunity. By that stage anyway,

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Speaker 2: we're talking only two or three years ago. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: he was. He was ready to come in it. And look,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think we can, we can re litigate it,

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Speaker 2: but it is what it is. But what I'm most

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Speaker 2: pleased about is that Matt Henry is now there, unquestionably

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Speaker 2: the first name written down when you're putting your bowling

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Speaker 2: attack down for any format and reaping the rewards off

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Speaker 2: his patients and his improvement.

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Speaker 11: And your producer, as your produce have said, his modesty

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Speaker 11: has probably not served him, and like he's very so

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Speaker 11: modest that you know, yes, we sort of taken for

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Speaker 11: granted a bit. You know, he doesn't push himself forward

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Speaker 11: like some other personality you do in the game, So

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Speaker 11: that might have I don't know, do you think that

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Speaker 11: had any bearing on his not coming to the four quacker.

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Speaker 2: Or I don't think so, I know, I don't if

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Speaker 2: I know what you're saying saying, if he was a

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Speaker 2: bit more sort of out there and and and beat

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Speaker 2: his own drummer bit more, would he have perhaps had

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Speaker 2: more opportunities. I don't think so, and it would have

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Speaker 2: you know. I think maybe it's you know, his his

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Speaker 2: measured composure is probably one of his superpowers. I would say, Della,

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Speaker 2: So I think if you if if he was a

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Speaker 2: more arrogant bloke who said, you know, got the hump

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Speaker 2: when he wasn't on the team, I think he would have.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think he would have probably been

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Speaker 2: as good as he is. We'll never know, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think I think he. I think we all realize

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Speaker 2: how good Saudi Bolt wag now that trio was. And

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Speaker 2: it's hard to break in. You know, it's like it's

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Speaker 2: not trying to play number seven for the all Blacks

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Speaker 2: from Richie mccaugh's and the team.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, true, forget.

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Speaker 2: It exactly exactly tell us, Hey, good on your right,

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Speaker 2: love chadding to you, thanks so much for calling in.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's chat again soon. Oh eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty Where did Danny Morrison get asks muzz muss

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Speaker 2: I can tell you. Danny Morrison two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: six international wickets, one hundred and sixty in Test matches,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty six and oighty eyes. Neil Wagner

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Speaker 2: incidentally never played white ball cricket for New Zealand, played

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Speaker 2: a lot for Otago Northern Districts, et cetera, but never

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Speaker 2: played a white ball game for New Zealand. His two

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty wickets were all in Test matches.

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Speaker 12: Hello, Bill Piney, I'm I'm not from christ Church, but

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Speaker 12: so I've been raving over met Henry for years. He

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Speaker 12: was the nearest guy since Too Heady, since Richard Headley retired.

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Speaker 12: And it's very interesting that he when he sort of

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Speaker 12: learned when both of them learnt to control their sort

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Speaker 12: of running in, you know, like a young Colts et cetera,

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Speaker 12: and just trying to follow at one hundred miles an hour.

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Speaker 12: As they developed their skills of control, and you know,

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Speaker 12: through experience, et cetera, they became better bowlers. You know,

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Speaker 12: maybe off shorter runs to both of them, but even

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Speaker 12: in his style of running in, he reminded me of Hadley.

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Speaker 12: Sim just so pleased that he's got these these wickets,

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Speaker 12: not just against easier teams, but if you look back

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Speaker 12: over the last four years, you'll see that he's got

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Speaker 12: a lot of wickets against the big teams of the world.

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Speaker 12: You know, England Australia and India and so on. I

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Speaker 12: love your little subtle well, no, not your subtle point,

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Speaker 12: but Dale Hadley's subtle point when he mentioned that, you know,

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Speaker 12: Tim Zady was coming towards you know the end of

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Speaker 12: his time. Definitely that Henry should have been put in

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Speaker 12: two years beforehand, you know, to get experience and so on.

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Speaker 12: I couldn't understand it. I don't worry about statistics in

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Speaker 12: the first years. You know, the guy's are bowling all

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Speaker 12: career and because they just get better with self confidence,

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Speaker 12: you know, and experience, et cetera. And as I said,

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Speaker 12: he's absolutely splendid bowler, wonderful, attitude, wonderful, and so that

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Speaker 12: could keep him going to his you know, thirty six.

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Speaker 12: And I noticed a lot that the captain's talked to him,

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Speaker 12: you know, when there's going to be changing the bowlers

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Speaker 12: and whatever. And he also goes up and has a

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Speaker 12: word to the younger younger bowlers. So he was he

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Speaker 12: might be vice captain and he's a very very good captain.

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Speaker 12: The other point I just wanted to make as I

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Speaker 12: was growing up as a you know, youngster, you know,

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Speaker 12: and a young man in Willington, the old the old

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Speaker 12: boy you should know, except including my father, who was

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Speaker 12: actually a New Zealand under twenty selector sort of coach

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Speaker 12: between nineteen forty five and nine fifty seven and has

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Speaker 12: got the Best Cricketer Under twenty award named after him

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Speaker 12: in Wellington. He said that it is harder to get

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Speaker 12: out of all black teams and New Zealand cricket teams

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Speaker 12: then to get into them. And this was a popular,

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Speaker 12: a popular, you know attitude that a lot of you know,

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Speaker 12: older people did, and you know, because cricket has become

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Speaker 12: your you know, great friends and your team. But there's

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Speaker 12: a time and you've got to sort of say to them, hey,

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Speaker 12: look it's like it's time to move on. Bookets like Rico. Rico,

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Speaker 12: you know, he should have gone to the wing two

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Speaker 12: years ago.

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Speaker 2: But I do have to get Jacob Orremont. I take

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Speaker 2: your points on this sort of stuff, but yeah, and look,

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Speaker 2: I think that's the most salient point you make is

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Speaker 2: the fact that Matt Henry still has the ability over

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Speaker 2: the next two or three summers in years actually to

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Speaker 2: you know, to add to this hall of wickets. And

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Speaker 2: you're so right about the fact that he gets his

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Speaker 2: wickets against good teams as well. His best bowling in

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Speaker 2: Test matches seven for twenty three against South Africa, seven

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Speaker 2: for sixty seven against Australia, the six for he just

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Speaker 2: got recently against Simbabwe obviously five for fifteen against India

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Speaker 2: in Bengalaru in October of last year, five for seventy

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Speaker 2: against Australia and Wellington in February of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 9: He gets.

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Speaker 2: He gets wickets against good teams, against very good teams.

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Speaker 2: Murray Web and Richard Web Yes brothers. Murray Web five

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Speaker 2: or six years older, oh eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: eighties and number Jacoboram next on News Talk SADB.

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Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and after Fields Call oh eight

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason Pain and GJ. Gunners,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's Lost Trusted Homilder News Talk.

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Speaker 2: ZIBB fourteen to one. Let's get you to Zimbabwe where

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Speaker 2: the black Caps wrapped up the first Test against Zimbabwe

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Speaker 2: and Bulawayo by nine wickets inside three days. The second

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Speaker 2: Test to come. Bowling coach Jacob borams with us. Jacob

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Speaker 2: want to talk a bit about Matt Henry actually, but

645
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Speaker 2: what were your overall levels of satisfaction as a coaching

646
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Speaker 2: group after that very convincing. When in the first Test.

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Speaker 9: Are you very happy?

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Speaker 13: I thought we played pretty much for eighty ninety percent

649
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Speaker 13: of the game exactly the way we wanted to would

650
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Speaker 13: have been nice. We've got some more first innings run

651
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Speaker 13: from the position we were in, but not to be.

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Speaker 9: But I thought we bought exceptionally well.

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Speaker 13: We we asked enough questions of the Zimbabwe that is

654
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Speaker 13: to make it hard for them, and I think to

655
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Speaker 13: get twenty wickets for only three hundred and ten runs

656
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Speaker 13: across those three days shows the quality of our bowling

657
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Speaker 13: and catching as well, and we're able to win comfortably.

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Speaker 9: So the coaches were very happy for sure.

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Speaker 2: How serious are the injuries to Nathan Smith and will

660
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Speaker 2: I Rock. We didn't see Nathan Smith bowl at all

661
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Speaker 2: in the second innings. Will I Rock did for a

662
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Speaker 2: bit but then went off. And how serious are those injuries?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, unfortunate. Nathan Smith isn't too good. I would say

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Speaker 13: he's doubtful for that second Test. But will I Rock

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Speaker 13: We've still got our fingers crossed. Obviously, with a guy

666
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Speaker 13: that will add their height to start with, you know,

667
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Speaker 13: that's our long back along spine to handle. But he's

668
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Speaker 13: so important to us, not only in the short term

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Speaker 13: but the long term as well. We just need to

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Speaker 13: be careful and make sure we do the right thing

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Speaker 13: for Will and sort of not put the Second Test

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Speaker 13: at the forefront of mines and think we've got a

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Speaker 13: huge summer at home starting well well under two months away.

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Speaker 13: So we've got to make sure we look after him

675
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Speaker 13: because he is vital to our prospects going forward.

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Speaker 2: I've been talking on the show this afternoon about Matt

677
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Speaker 2: Henry nine for ninety in this Test match, his second

678
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Speaker 2: best Test match bowling return. Can you talk a bit

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Speaker 2: about what you've seen, Jacob from Matt Henry in recent

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Speaker 2: times and his development as a Test bowler.

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Speaker 13: Well, yeah, look, I think if you rewind probably only

682
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Speaker 13: what two or three years, he was carrying the drinks

683
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Speaker 13: a lot.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I think the thing with Matt Henry is he's able

686
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Speaker 13: to get some consistent playing time now and he's been

687
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Speaker 13: a regular in the Test site for probably the last

688
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Speaker 13: two seasons, and you're seeing a guy who's just at

689
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Speaker 13: a peak of his game in terms of his skills,

690
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Speaker 13: the repertoire he has the amount of deliveries he can bowl.

691
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Speaker 13: But also on top of that, he's an experienced level

692
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Speaker 13: there at his age and the amount of cricket he's

693
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Speaker 13: played where he's able to, you know, to stay ahead

694
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Speaker 13: of the game and make the right call in terms

695
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Speaker 13: of what deliveries to bowl, what fails to set.

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Speaker 9: And at the moment he's nothing but sure for us.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he's bowling with more variation now or

698
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Speaker 2: do you just think he's bowling his existing repertoire more effectively.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Look, I think it's probably a bit of both.

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Speaker 13: I think, you know, he's always working on his craft,

701
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Speaker 13: which is really awesome to watch from my position, you know,

702
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Speaker 13: and a lot of that is self driven, which again

703
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Speaker 13: I think shows the professional in him.

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Speaker 9: He's always looking for new slower balls or just any

705
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Speaker 9: sort of variation in his game, working on angles, on

706
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Speaker 9: the crease.

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Speaker 13: Shorter balls, full of balls, different lines. So he's always working.

708
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Speaker 13: But I think I think at the moment it's everything

709
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Speaker 13: is combining so nicely for Matt.

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Speaker 9: It's his consistency.

711
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Speaker 13: It's his delivery, it's the physical side of his game,

712
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Speaker 13: is fitness, and I think it's all coming together that

713
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Speaker 13: you've got a guy at the peak of his powers,

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Speaker 13: and you know, fingers crossed he can stay on the

715
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Speaker 13: field for you know, as much as we needed throughout

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Speaker 13: a long summer.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, and of course he's had to buy his time,

718
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Speaker 2: hasn't he rightly? So behind you know, our best pace

719
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Speaker 2: bowling trio ever to sow they Crent Bolt, Neil Wagner.

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Speaker 2: He has got his opportunity now, has his effectiveness as

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Speaker 2: a Test bowler being really just a direct result of

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Speaker 2: playing more Test cricket.

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Speaker 13: I think it's probably the answer is yes. I mean

724
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Speaker 13: he's he's always had the skills.

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Speaker 9: We know that. I mean he's been Matt Henry's been

726
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Speaker 9: around now for a decade, so you know that was

727
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Speaker 9: identified way back and whatever it was twenty thirteen, fourteen fifteen.

728
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Speaker 9: I don't know when he made his debut, but I

729
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Speaker 9: mean I know he.

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Speaker 13: Was at the twenty fifteen World Cup at home summer

731
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Speaker 13: in New Zealand and Australia. So he's been around a

732
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Speaker 13: while but had to do his time behind the wagoners,

733
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Speaker 13: the sounds, the bolts. But now he's got his chum

734
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Speaker 13: ot hands and I think you're seeing, as I said before,

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Speaker 13: you're seeing a guy whose skills are outed, but just

736
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Speaker 13: getting that opportunity to be on the field.

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Speaker 9: And lead the attack day in, day out. It's coming

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Speaker 9: to the fore.

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Speaker 13: He's got leadership, he's got quality, and just the ability

740
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Speaker 13: to execute more often than not shows how good he is.

741
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he certainly is. Just a couple of other matters.

742
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Speaker 2: How you adjusting to a new coach? Obviously Gary Steed's

743
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Speaker 2: been at their home for a while now not there anymore.

744
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Speaker 2: Rob Walter is the new head coach. Howre you adjusting

745
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Speaker 2: to working alongside Rob Walter.

746
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Speaker 13: It's been a really seamless transition, actually, which I think

747
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Speaker 13: is which is a great thing for myself as a coach,

748
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Speaker 13: but more importantly for the players as well. It hasn't

749
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Speaker 13: been that disruptive in terms of a necessarily, you know,

750
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Speaker 13: an outrageously different approach. He's very much appeared about the

751
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Speaker 13: environment and the culture, which is probably pretty cliche stuff,

752
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Speaker 13: but you know, he's come in and he's observed a lot.

753
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Speaker 13: I mean, there are things obviously that he has talked

754
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Speaker 13: to us about, and you know, little shifts here and there,

755
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Speaker 13: but he's come in and he's it's almost like status quo,

756
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Speaker 13: and I think that's a really good thing. I mean

757
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Speaker 13: that the team wasn't broken as such. He's come in

758
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Speaker 13: and he's just added little bits and pieces where needed.

759
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Speaker 13: But I can see really positive signs for us and

760
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Speaker 13: he's brought some good stuff already and I think only

761
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Speaker 13: better things to come, hope.

762
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Speaker 2: So and you talked about the busy home summer, but

763
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Speaker 2: it's busy really in terms of white ball cricket. The

764
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Speaker 2: only Test matches in the home summer are the three

765
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Speaker 2: against the West Indies, all in December, so nothing after Christmas.

766
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Speaker 2: Would you like to ideally, and we know why you can't,

767
00:39:19,947 --> 00:39:23,027
Speaker 2: but would you ideally like to play more Test cricket

768
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Speaker 2: than that?

769
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Speaker 13: One hundred percent? Yeah, And if that's the SoundBite, it's great.

770
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Speaker 13: But I think if you asked any of the players

771
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Speaker 13: or coaches, yeah, we'd love to play or be involved.

772
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Speaker 13: I'm not playing obviously, but be involved with more Test cricket.

773
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Speaker 13: It is the pinnacle of cricket, you know. I've just

774
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Speaker 13: finished watching it the Days play India England over there

775
00:39:45,867 --> 00:39:48,827
Speaker 13: in London, and it's it's great television and we do

776
00:39:48,987 --> 00:39:51,467
Speaker 13: enjoy playing it, watching it and be involved in it.

777
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Speaker 9: But like you said, I understand the reasons why. You know,

778
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Speaker 9: there's a T twenty World Cup and a tour of

779
00:39:55,827 --> 00:39:59,187
Speaker 9: India before that January February, so it is what it is.

780
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Speaker 9: But you know, if the opportunity rises.

781
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Speaker 13: And I'd love for more Tests to be on the calendar,

782
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Speaker 13: although I'm saying that we had nine in the about

783
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Speaker 13: what three months last year through Sri Lanka, India and

784
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Speaker 13: then the home series against England and then we've got

785
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Speaker 13: quite a big Test Diamony Austrailia as well, so that's

786
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Speaker 13: stick for coal.

787
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Speaker 2: But yeah, good stuff, Jacob, Hey, God to leave it there, mate,

788
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Speaker 2: but thanks for joining us. Jacob Borum bowling coach for

789
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Speaker 2: the black Caps. Easy win in the first Test. Second

790
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Speaker 2: one starts on Thursday, same venue, Bulawayo, and just on

791
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Speaker 2: that England India series that's coming down to the wire.

792
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Speaker 2: Fifth Test, fifth and final Test. England fifty for one.

793
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Speaker 2: It stumps on day three, so two days, two days

794
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Speaker 2: to go. They need another three hundred and twenty four

795
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Speaker 2: to win. That would give them a three to one

796
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Speaker 2: series win. India need nine wickets if there, to win

797
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Speaker 2: this one and draw the series. So an exciting final

798
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Speaker 2: couple of days coming up over there. Seven to one

799
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Speaker 2: news talks.

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Speaker 3: Heb when it's down to the line. You made a

801
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Speaker 3: call on eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Hine, News TALKSB.

802
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Speaker 2: Coming up three and a half to one. Hey, good,

803
00:41:04,587 --> 00:41:06,827
Speaker 2: good hour of cricket chat in early August. This doesn't

804
00:41:06,867 --> 00:41:09,787
Speaker 2: happen very often, so thanks for your contributions around Matt Henry.

805
00:41:09,987 --> 00:41:11,107
Speaker 2: Good to be able to give him a bit of

806
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Speaker 2: a bit of love at an unseasonal cricket time. Certingly

807
00:41:13,987 --> 00:41:17,067
Speaker 2: back here anyway, looking forward to the summer ahead. We're

808
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Speaker 2: gonna flick across to some rugby after one as well

809
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Speaker 2: as some cycling. Corbyn Strong. He he's got a bit

810
00:41:23,507 --> 00:41:26,627
Speaker 2: about him. Corbyn Strong. He might just be starting to

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Speaker 2: come into a bit of interesting form. He's won his

812
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Speaker 2: first race. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

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Speaker 1: and after field, it's all on Wee.

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Speaker 3: James Forward with Jason Vade on your home of Sport

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Speaker 3: Use Talks.

817
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Speaker 2: By that one seven. I'm Jason Pine, Andy McDonald's show producer.

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Speaker 2: This is Weekend Sport on News Talks head B. The

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Speaker 2: All Blacks team for the Rugby Championship or the squad

820
00:41:54,427 --> 00:41:57,307
Speaker 2: for the Rugby Championship named tomorrow we'll have full coverage

821
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Speaker 2: four year on News Talks head B thirty six players

822
00:42:01,907 --> 00:42:05,027
Speaker 2: set to be named. There's a few injury concerns to

823
00:42:05,067 --> 00:42:09,027
Speaker 2: furrow the brow of Scott Robertson and his fellow coaches

824
00:42:09,227 --> 00:42:12,947
Speaker 2: slash selectors, but also happily a couple of players coming

825
00:42:12,987 --> 00:42:17,747
Speaker 2: back into the mix, namely Wallace Setti and to Mighty

826
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Speaker 2: Williams who didn't take any part in the series against

827
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Speaker 2: France last month, but they will be on the plane

828
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Speaker 2: to Argentina. We understand there are a couple of little

829
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Speaker 2: interesting conundrums. A third half back is required now with

830
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Speaker 2: Nullah Hotham out for pretty much the entire Rugby Championship,

831
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Speaker 2: so who gets that third halfback spot? We o Roy

832
00:42:41,227 --> 00:42:44,947
Speaker 2: Guard and Latama are the top two. But then you think, okay,

833
00:42:44,947 --> 00:42:47,547
Speaker 2: who is it? Is it Finlay Christie? Do they go

834
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Speaker 2: back to what they know in terms of experience with

835
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Speaker 2: Finlay Christie? Because complicating matters there is the fact that

836
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Speaker 2: he is being linked with a move away from New

837
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Speaker 2: Zealand to the UK. So would they still be that

838
00:43:02,667 --> 00:43:05,787
Speaker 2: keen on taking him Given the fact that Mark Talaa

839
00:43:05,947 --> 00:43:08,187
Speaker 2: hasn't been selected for the All Blacks this year. Even

840
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Speaker 2: when there has been a bit of a wing shortage

841
00:43:12,067 --> 00:43:15,267
Speaker 2: because he's going away, So would the same rules apply

842
00:43:15,347 --> 00:43:19,227
Speaker 2: to Finlay Christie. And if they do, then who are

843
00:43:19,227 --> 00:43:23,747
Speaker 2: we talking about? Kyle Preston perhaps out of the Crusaders.

844
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Speaker 2: Are we perhaps going back to fill Fuckatava from the

845
00:43:26,947 --> 00:43:30,067
Speaker 2: Highlanders or is there somebody else in this mix? Even

846
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Speaker 2: Xavier Row out of the Chiefs. I've been really impressed

847
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Speaker 2: with him this season or the season just gone. So

848
00:43:35,667 --> 00:43:37,707
Speaker 2: you're half back's an interesting one. And whether they add

849
00:43:37,747 --> 00:43:41,307
Speaker 2: reinforcement in the loose forwards, which I think they probably will,

850
00:43:42,667 --> 00:43:45,827
Speaker 2: even with Tatiti coming back. Is Simon Parker going to

851
00:43:45,867 --> 00:43:50,507
Speaker 2: hear his name read out tomorrow? Peter Larkeye, perhaps Ethan Blackadder?

852
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Speaker 2: Will he be in the mix it's played for Tasma

853
00:43:53,507 --> 00:43:56,347
Speaker 2: this afternoon of course. Yes, So these are all I'll

854
00:43:56,347 --> 00:43:59,427
Speaker 2: just say it really just just a stream of consciousness. Really,

855
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Speaker 2: you might want to add some structure to that. We

856
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Speaker 2: might talk all blacks in a little while. We're also

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Speaker 2: going to get you to totong Or where they have

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Speaker 2: plenty with a couple of all blacks on their side,

859
00:44:09,467 --> 00:44:11,427
Speaker 2: take on Tasman with a couple of all blacks on

860
00:44:11,467 --> 00:44:15,067
Speaker 2: their side. We'll set the scene for you and keep

861
00:44:15,067 --> 00:44:17,787
Speaker 2: eyes on that. And James mcconey in his regular slot

862
00:44:17,827 --> 00:44:19,427
Speaker 2: on a Sunday as well. We're going to start with

863
00:44:19,467 --> 00:44:23,947
Speaker 2: cycling this out Kiwi. Corbyn Strong has claimed the first

864
00:44:24,187 --> 00:44:28,907
Speaker 2: general classification victory of his pro career at the Tour

865
00:44:29,027 --> 00:44:33,147
Speaker 2: de Walloni in Belgium last week. Here comes Conven Strong

866
00:44:33,147 --> 00:44:33,827
Speaker 2: on left though.

867
00:44:33,827 --> 00:44:34,707
Speaker 3: Tell Us still leading.

868
00:44:34,867 --> 00:44:36,227
Speaker 14: Covin Strong is gonna do it again.

869
00:44:36,347 --> 00:44:37,027
Speaker 15: He's coming back.

870
00:44:37,107 --> 00:44:38,067
Speaker 3: Then, he's sacking.

871
00:44:37,827 --> 00:44:39,547
Speaker 16: Overall last year and he's gonna.

872
00:44:39,267 --> 00:44:40,227
Speaker 3: Win the stage one.

873
00:44:40,347 --> 00:44:44,227
Speaker 16: Corvin Strong the KIWI reminding us why he was sacking

874
00:44:44,347 --> 00:44:46,747
Speaker 16: last year because he is so consistent in these kind

875
00:44:46,787 --> 00:44:49,147
Speaker 16: of finishes. He's going to win the stage and he's

876
00:44:49,187 --> 00:44:52,147
Speaker 16: going to take over the Orange leaders jersey at the

877
00:44:52,187 --> 00:44:53,867
Speaker 16: ETS Tour the Woalony.

878
00:44:54,027 --> 00:44:56,747
Speaker 2: So that's Corbyn Strong winning the first stage. He had

879
00:44:56,787 --> 00:45:00,787
Speaker 2: an incredibly consistent week. He was inside the top ten

880
00:45:01,387 --> 00:45:03,827
Speaker 2: in every stage and after winning that first stage, he

881
00:45:03,867 --> 00:45:07,427
Speaker 2: then surrendered the overall lead to British Oliver Knight in

882
00:45:07,507 --> 00:45:10,947
Speaker 2: stage two, got the lead back on stage four and

883
00:45:11,067 --> 00:45:15,547
Speaker 2: held off Czech Republic rider Mattius Vatchek to finish the

884
00:45:15,627 --> 00:45:19,427
Speaker 2: last stage in second which was enough to secure him victory.

885
00:45:19,747 --> 00:45:22,507
Speaker 2: As mentioned in the commentary there, Corbyn Strong was second

886
00:45:22,827 --> 00:45:27,267
Speaker 2: in this event last year on countback in pretty brutal fashion,

887
00:45:27,707 --> 00:45:29,547
Speaker 2: so it would have been very very nice, I'm sure

888
00:45:29,587 --> 00:45:32,907
Speaker 2: for him to finally win this one. He joins us

889
00:45:32,907 --> 00:45:36,347
Speaker 2: now Corbyn Strong. Hey, congratulations Corbyn on the win in Belgium.

890
00:45:36,387 --> 00:45:38,227
Speaker 2: Let's start with that last stage. What was it like

891
00:45:38,307 --> 00:45:42,547
Speaker 2: having to sit on Mattias's wheel, worrying about both catching

892
00:45:42,667 --> 00:45:45,347
Speaker 2: the breakaway group but also the bonus seconds at the

893
00:45:45,467 --> 00:45:48,307
Speaker 2: end as you tried to hold on for the general

894
00:45:48,347 --> 00:45:49,387
Speaker 2: classification win.

895
00:45:50,387 --> 00:45:53,947
Speaker 17: I was a really really stressful situation as she I

896
00:45:53,987 --> 00:45:56,227
Speaker 17: was quite nervous for that, say, only being one second

897
00:45:56,267 --> 00:45:59,987
Speaker 17: the head of that second. He's a really strong timer

898
00:46:00,027 --> 00:46:02,467
Speaker 17: and there was quite a hard there's a few quite

899
00:46:02,547 --> 00:46:04,667
Speaker 17: hard climbs in the stage, so I knew I just

900
00:46:04,707 --> 00:46:08,267
Speaker 17: had to hold onto his back and the end was

901
00:46:08,267 --> 00:46:10,467
Speaker 17: a really good situation for me. The team handled it

902
00:46:10,507 --> 00:46:13,707
Speaker 17: really well and time bonuses were getting taken up by

903
00:46:13,747 --> 00:46:18,107
Speaker 17: the breakaway and yeah, thankfully I had good legs as

904
00:46:18,107 --> 00:46:20,507
Speaker 17: well and could just follow him when he attacked and

905
00:46:20,547 --> 00:46:21,907
Speaker 17: then managed to beat him on the line.

906
00:46:21,987 --> 00:46:26,067
Speaker 2: Or and what does this mean to you personally as well,

907
00:46:26,187 --> 00:46:29,387
Speaker 2: having missed out so narrowly and so brutally at the

908
00:46:29,427 --> 00:46:30,467
Speaker 2: same event last year.

909
00:46:31,067 --> 00:46:31,747
Speaker 18: Yeah, obviously.

910
00:46:32,027 --> 00:46:34,787
Speaker 17: Yeah, missing out last year was pretty guarding, especially because

911
00:46:34,787 --> 00:46:38,627
Speaker 17: it was the first professional race that my appearance had

912
00:46:38,747 --> 00:46:42,547
Speaker 17: to watch as well, and so on the finish line,

913
00:46:42,747 --> 00:46:45,067
Speaker 17: my dad thought I had won the GC and he

914
00:46:45,107 --> 00:46:47,707
Speaker 17: was pretty cutted when he found.

915
00:46:47,507 --> 00:46:48,307
Speaker 18: Out that I hadn't.

916
00:46:48,387 --> 00:46:51,547
Speaker 17: So so I think they really enjoyed this year following

917
00:46:51,547 --> 00:46:53,787
Speaker 17: along and seeing me pull it off and the end.

918
00:46:53,827 --> 00:46:56,787
Speaker 17: So yeah, for me, Like when I turned pro, I

919
00:46:56,987 --> 00:47:00,987
Speaker 17: always wanted to ride one week GC races, but it

920
00:47:01,027 --> 00:47:05,827
Speaker 17: never really eventuated till this race last year. So to

921
00:47:05,867 --> 00:47:08,027
Speaker 17: come back and if I can win a race on

922
00:47:08,147 --> 00:47:09,627
Speaker 17: GC is really nice hearing.

923
00:47:09,867 --> 00:47:11,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just picking up on that. You've been viewed

924
00:47:11,787 --> 00:47:14,387
Speaker 2: as a sprinter for much of your career, helping out

925
00:47:14,387 --> 00:47:17,787
Speaker 2: your teammates. Is it a little bit unfamiliar for you

926
00:47:17,867 --> 00:47:21,627
Speaker 2: to change into a general classification writer or actually? Did

927
00:47:21,627 --> 00:47:23,947
Speaker 2: this race suit you quite well both this year and

928
00:47:24,027 --> 00:47:24,507
Speaker 2: last year?

929
00:47:25,947 --> 00:47:28,827
Speaker 17: Yeah, it does really see me well obviously. Traditionally, like

930
00:47:28,867 --> 00:47:32,667
Speaker 17: the Grand Tours, like Tour de Front, you have twenty

931
00:47:32,787 --> 00:47:35,067
Speaker 17: to sixty minute climes and that's not really my cup

932
00:47:35,107 --> 00:47:39,187
Speaker 17: of tea. But at Tour Bolonia it's more like two

933
00:47:39,227 --> 00:47:41,747
Speaker 17: to ten minute climbs, so I can I can do

934
00:47:41,827 --> 00:47:44,827
Speaker 17: really well over climes like this. Yeah, so the park

935
00:47:44,867 --> 00:47:47,627
Speaker 17: war was really cited to me. But yeah, you're right

936
00:47:47,627 --> 00:47:49,947
Speaker 17: as well. It's not something I've been used to doing

937
00:47:49,947 --> 00:47:54,147
Speaker 17: as riding GC. I did it a few times when

938
00:47:54,187 --> 00:47:57,667
Speaker 17: I was younger races like Tourist Southland and New Zealand

939
00:47:57,667 --> 00:48:00,627
Speaker 17: Cycle bress it. But yeah, obviously it's a different cup

940
00:48:00,627 --> 00:48:04,547
Speaker 17: of tea over here and the professional races with such

941
00:48:04,587 --> 00:48:08,227
Speaker 17: strong teams and yah, it's a really different style of racing.

942
00:48:08,467 --> 00:48:11,267
Speaker 2: How difficult is it to manage going between the two

943
00:48:11,347 --> 00:48:13,627
Speaker 2: from a specialist sprinter to a GC rider.

944
00:48:14,867 --> 00:48:17,307
Speaker 17: Thankfully for me, I'm in a pretty good position with

945
00:48:17,347 --> 00:48:23,267
Speaker 17: the team. Yeah, they really value my me as a writer.

946
00:48:23,307 --> 00:48:26,307
Speaker 17: I guess out so I go to most races with

947
00:48:26,387 --> 00:48:30,067
Speaker 17: a lot of support. But normally yeah, normally I'm going

948
00:48:30,107 --> 00:48:33,587
Speaker 17: to races just targeting the old stage or at a

949
00:48:33,587 --> 00:48:36,227
Speaker 17: one day race, Yeah, just going for the best results possible.

950
00:48:37,347 --> 00:48:39,307
Speaker 17: The jered to tell you that I did earlier this

951
00:48:39,387 --> 00:48:42,747
Speaker 17: year we went with a big GC goal with Derek

952
00:48:42,787 --> 00:48:44,947
Speaker 17: g and he he had a really good race. He

953
00:48:44,947 --> 00:48:47,307
Speaker 17: had finished fourth on GC and was challenging for the

954
00:48:47,307 --> 00:48:50,507
Speaker 17: win the whole three weeks, and I was there to

955
00:48:50,587 --> 00:48:54,507
Speaker 17: challenge the odds stage. But yeah, over all the team's

956
00:48:54,507 --> 00:48:58,027
Speaker 17: goals GC for Derek. So I also really enjoyed chipping

957
00:48:58,067 --> 00:49:01,107
Speaker 17: in where I've been helping the team be successful there.

958
00:49:01,867 --> 00:49:04,347
Speaker 2: So what does a win like this do for your

959
00:49:04,547 --> 00:49:07,707
Speaker 2: cycling career and also for your confidence personally?

960
00:49:08,947 --> 00:49:10,907
Speaker 17: Well, yeah, first of all, for the confidence, it was

961
00:49:10,947 --> 00:49:13,307
Speaker 17: it was really nice. So this year didn't go the

962
00:49:13,307 --> 00:49:16,307
Speaker 17: way I hoped it took go. I'd say I've probably

963
00:49:16,347 --> 00:49:19,587
Speaker 17: been not quite performing to the standard I wanted to

964
00:49:19,587 --> 00:49:23,187
Speaker 17: be performing it. So after the year I had a

965
00:49:23,187 --> 00:49:24,947
Speaker 17: lot of rest and got to reset and went to

966
00:49:25,187 --> 00:49:27,387
Speaker 17: live in New for a training keep and then went

967
00:49:27,427 --> 00:49:29,627
Speaker 17: straight to this race. And yeah, so for the confidence

968
00:49:29,667 --> 00:49:31,467
Speaker 17: to turn up in such good shape and.

969
00:49:32,787 --> 00:49:34,747
Speaker 18: Yeah, get the win and I felt really good all.

970
00:49:34,667 --> 00:49:37,107
Speaker 17: Week, So it's it's really nice for the confidence and

971
00:49:37,147 --> 00:49:41,307
Speaker 17: then also the team as well. They'll really backed me

972
00:49:41,307 --> 00:49:43,787
Speaker 17: in the next race is obviously seeing how how my

973
00:49:43,867 --> 00:49:46,987
Speaker 17: shape was. And Malone, Yeah, when I go to the

974
00:49:47,067 --> 00:49:50,707
Speaker 17: Arctrogress and Norway next that I'll be full of confidence

975
00:49:50,747 --> 00:49:54,307
Speaker 17: in me, and yeah, it's always a really nice feeling

976
00:49:54,347 --> 00:49:58,107
Speaker 17: when you know your teammates really like confident in your

977
00:49:58,507 --> 00:49:59,467
Speaker 17: your shape as well.

978
00:49:59,867 --> 00:50:02,747
Speaker 2: Very cool. We over here obviously see the Tour de

979
00:50:02,747 --> 00:50:05,667
Speaker 2: France and the Welds, the three week tours. We don't

980
00:50:05,707 --> 00:50:09,107
Speaker 2: see as many of these week long stage races. How

981
00:50:09,147 --> 00:50:12,907
Speaker 2: do they differ for you between one week in three weeks.

982
00:50:14,227 --> 00:50:18,187
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's a massive difference. Yeah, I'd never want to

983
00:50:18,227 --> 00:50:19,827
Speaker 17: do more than one Grand Tour and one year.

984
00:50:19,907 --> 00:50:20,387
Speaker 9: They are.

985
00:50:21,787 --> 00:50:24,507
Speaker 17: Yeah, they are a really big vision. There's three weeks

986
00:50:24,507 --> 00:50:28,787
Speaker 17: in a row of yeah, going up high mountains and

987
00:50:28,827 --> 00:50:30,507
Speaker 17: everyone's in really top.

988
00:50:30,267 --> 00:50:32,707
Speaker 18: Shape like this year. This year, I got a bit

989
00:50:32,707 --> 00:50:33,587
Speaker 18: sick before the Juris.

990
00:50:33,587 --> 00:50:35,507
Speaker 17: I didn't have the perfect running and then I crashed

991
00:50:35,507 --> 00:50:39,627
Speaker 17: twice in the first five days. So it's really hard

992
00:50:39,667 --> 00:50:43,187
Speaker 17: to recover from something like your crash when you're having

993
00:50:43,227 --> 00:50:45,507
Speaker 17: to put yourself through it for one hundred and fifty

994
00:50:45,507 --> 00:50:49,187
Speaker 17: to two hundred k's every day, like as much physio

995
00:50:49,227 --> 00:50:52,667
Speaker 17: and ostio you see, it's pretty hard to recover. Yeah,

996
00:50:52,707 --> 00:50:54,027
Speaker 17: when you have to sit on a bike for six

997
00:50:54,067 --> 00:50:56,267
Speaker 17: hours and push yourself to the limit.

998
00:50:56,387 --> 00:50:59,507
Speaker 18: So we're in a one week race, it's.

999
00:51:01,187 --> 00:51:04,587
Speaker 17: Yeah, there's just I guess just a it's shorter, there's

1000
00:51:04,987 --> 00:51:08,627
Speaker 17: more time to fix things and recover between each race,

1001
00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:12,307
Speaker 17: and yeah, it's not as much of a test of

1002
00:51:12,387 --> 00:51:15,267
Speaker 17: endurance as a Grand Tour. There's there's nothing quite like

1003
00:51:15,307 --> 00:51:16,747
Speaker 17: it that of experience.

1004
00:51:16,667 --> 00:51:19,067
Speaker 2: You mentioned as zero to tell you there, and while

1005
00:51:19,467 --> 00:51:21,747
Speaker 2: it didn't go exactly the way you wanted, you're still

1006
00:51:21,747 --> 00:51:24,947
Speaker 2: finished second on the third stage behind Matt's Peterson, which

1007
00:51:24,987 --> 00:51:27,787
Speaker 2: is nothing to scoff at. So were there some silver

1008
00:51:27,907 --> 00:51:29,947
Speaker 2: linings for you to take out of the zero.

1009
00:51:29,827 --> 00:51:30,187
Speaker 14: To tell you?

1010
00:51:31,547 --> 00:51:32,107
Speaker 18: Yeah, exactly.

1011
00:51:32,187 --> 00:51:34,707
Speaker 17: The first week I felt I felt better than I

1012
00:51:35,067 --> 00:51:37,947
Speaker 17: to be after my sickness running in and then the

1013
00:51:37,987 --> 00:51:40,187
Speaker 17: rest of the duo, I think I suffered from not

1014
00:51:40,227 --> 00:51:41,187
Speaker 17: having a perfect building.

1015
00:51:41,507 --> 00:51:42,507
Speaker 18: But yeah, then.

1016
00:51:42,427 --> 00:51:45,707
Speaker 17: I settled into more of a support role and really

1017
00:51:45,747 --> 00:51:48,347
Speaker 17: enjoyed helping. Derek is a good mate, and yeah, performed

1018
00:51:48,387 --> 00:51:51,467
Speaker 17: really well in the duo. Yeah, of course, it was

1019
00:51:51,467 --> 00:51:55,787
Speaker 17: a really nice feeling to get second and also feel

1020
00:51:55,827 --> 00:51:57,467
Speaker 17: so close to the win. It's a it's a big

1021
00:51:57,547 --> 00:52:00,747
Speaker 17: goal of mine to win a Grand Tour stage, and yeah,

1022
00:52:00,787 --> 00:52:02,987
Speaker 17: there's never been in New Zealander to win a duo stage,

1023
00:52:03,027 --> 00:52:05,507
Speaker 17: so it was quite inspiring to get second and motivating

1024
00:52:05,587 --> 00:52:08,227
Speaker 17: to I'm back with that goal in the future.

1025
00:52:08,787 --> 00:52:11,267
Speaker 2: We probably don't understand really how much of a team

1026
00:52:11,307 --> 00:52:14,307
Speaker 2: sports cycling is. Can you explain to us how much

1027
00:52:14,387 --> 00:52:17,507
Speaker 2: of your mind set is about helping your teammates and

1028
00:52:17,547 --> 00:52:21,907
Speaker 2: helping whoever has been pinpointed as the general classification candidate

1029
00:52:21,947 --> 00:52:24,227
Speaker 2: and how much is about doing well yourself.

1030
00:52:25,667 --> 00:52:28,987
Speaker 17: Yeah, the Duro is a big goal for the team.

1031
00:52:29,427 --> 00:52:31,747
Speaker 17: In November, the team sat down and planned to go

1032
00:52:31,747 --> 00:52:36,827
Speaker 17: to the Duro with Derek, and there's me, Derek and

1033
00:52:36,867 --> 00:52:39,347
Speaker 17: then the six other guys there. We're told in November

1034
00:52:39,347 --> 00:52:41,747
Speaker 17: there are going to the DURA to support Derek's GC.

1035
00:52:41,987 --> 00:52:45,667
Speaker 17: So their next six months it was all about preparing

1036
00:52:45,707 --> 00:52:49,307
Speaker 17: as best possible so they can support Derek and facing

1037
00:52:49,387 --> 00:52:51,947
Speaker 17: the desk on GP and even me being at the

1038
00:52:52,067 --> 00:52:57,027
Speaker 17: Duro was a wee bit with Derek in mind as well.

1039
00:52:58,787 --> 00:53:00,307
Speaker 17: If I was there, it takes a wee bit of

1040
00:53:00,307 --> 00:53:03,467
Speaker 17: the pressure off Derek because everyone in the races are

1041
00:53:03,467 --> 00:53:06,867
Speaker 17: there just for Derek and not every all day for

1042
00:53:06,907 --> 00:53:09,147
Speaker 17: twenty one days in a row, everyone's one hundred percent

1043
00:53:09,187 --> 00:53:11,427
Speaker 17: focused on Derek. Is the odd stage that the team's

1044
00:53:11,467 --> 00:53:14,707
Speaker 17: like focused on me, so a lot. Yeah, so teams

1045
00:53:14,747 --> 00:53:18,547
Speaker 17: brought in a lot, A lot goes into it, and yeah,

1046
00:53:18,587 --> 00:53:19,867
Speaker 17: especially if you're writing GC.

1047
00:53:20,587 --> 00:53:23,707
Speaker 2: And then wallone when you won the first stage, is

1048
00:53:23,707 --> 00:53:25,347
Speaker 2: that a bit of a shift of mindset for you

1049
00:53:25,387 --> 00:53:29,227
Speaker 2: when suddenly you're the GC contender and all the team's

1050
00:53:29,267 --> 00:53:30,107
Speaker 2: working for me now?

1051
00:53:31,227 --> 00:53:31,587
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1052
00:53:31,667 --> 00:53:34,587
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think I've been in a really privileged situation

1053
00:53:35,067 --> 00:53:40,547
Speaker 17: since about seven eight months into my pro career. Yeah,

1054
00:53:40,707 --> 00:53:42,907
Speaker 17: I've often been the right of the teams written for,

1055
00:53:43,187 --> 00:53:46,027
Speaker 17: but yeah, this week was especially special. I think because

1056
00:53:46,347 --> 00:53:49,427
Speaker 17: I was second last year. Everyone knew before the week

1057
00:53:49,467 --> 00:53:52,107
Speaker 17: started that they are coming to the tour will only

1058
00:53:52,107 --> 00:53:54,267
Speaker 17: need to race for me, So everyone was really committed

1059
00:53:55,347 --> 00:53:57,267
Speaker 17: and yeah, it was just really cool to see everyone

1060
00:53:57,267 --> 00:54:00,227
Speaker 17: on the same page since before the Stage one And yeah,

1061
00:54:00,427 --> 00:54:02,347
Speaker 17: obviously winning Stage one is called the boys with a

1062
00:54:02,387 --> 00:54:05,267
Speaker 17: lot of confidence and yeah, they're really motivated for the

1063
00:54:05,307 --> 00:54:05,827
Speaker 17: reds for the week.

1064
00:54:06,347 --> 00:54:09,747
Speaker 2: Looking ahead, the Walter Love Welter Espanya is coming up.

1065
00:54:09,787 --> 00:54:12,747
Speaker 2: You did that last year. Is that on the cards

1066
00:54:13,187 --> 00:54:15,747
Speaker 2: this year or given what you said before about only

1067
00:54:15,787 --> 00:54:18,747
Speaker 2: doing one Grand Tour a year, will you be skipping

1068
00:54:18,787 --> 00:54:19,227
Speaker 2: this one?

1069
00:54:20,347 --> 00:54:23,507
Speaker 17: Yeah exactly, Yeah, I'm going to focus more on some

1070
00:54:23,587 --> 00:54:24,067
Speaker 17: one day race.

1071
00:54:24,107 --> 00:54:25,307
Speaker 18: At the end of the season, there's a.

1072
00:54:26,907 --> 00:54:31,187
Speaker 17: Big race called Grandfree Quebec and Canada, and that's a

1073
00:54:31,227 --> 00:54:33,987
Speaker 17: bit of a home race for the team. A lot

1074
00:54:33,987 --> 00:54:36,627
Speaker 17: of our sponsors are from Canada, and.

1075
00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:39,147
Speaker 18: Yeah, so it's a raceless suited to me.

1076
00:54:39,187 --> 00:54:42,547
Speaker 17: I've been second in there in the past, so that's

1077
00:54:42,547 --> 00:54:44,107
Speaker 17: a big target for me for the rest of the season.

1078
00:54:44,387 --> 00:54:48,547
Speaker 2: A few Kiwi's obviously in and around the cycling circuit

1079
00:54:48,587 --> 00:54:51,187
Speaker 2: on that side of the world. Sam Beuley, we spoke

1080
00:54:51,227 --> 00:54:54,627
Speaker 2: to him a short time ago, actually, George Bennett, Lawrence Pithy,

1081
00:54:54,667 --> 00:54:56,787
Speaker 2: who's just ridden in the Tour de France. Do you

1082
00:54:57,187 --> 00:54:58,627
Speaker 2: do you keep up with those guys? Do you see

1083
00:54:58,627 --> 00:54:59,227
Speaker 2: them round much?

1084
00:55:00,707 --> 00:55:01,267
Speaker 18: Absolutely?

1085
00:55:01,547 --> 00:55:03,587
Speaker 17: Most of us all live in Andorra as well, so

1086
00:55:04,427 --> 00:55:07,947
Speaker 17: we see each other out training and empressing. I've got

1087
00:55:08,107 --> 00:55:10,867
Speaker 17: Tembell Stewart coming staying at my apartment at the moment

1088
00:55:10,907 --> 00:55:13,187
Speaker 17: in the Dora parent Gates just down the road.

1089
00:55:13,267 --> 00:55:15,827
Speaker 18: So even a barbecue this weekend as well.

1090
00:55:15,867 --> 00:55:18,707
Speaker 17: So yeah, we deficitarly all keep in touch and then

1091
00:55:19,107 --> 00:55:21,267
Speaker 17: especially at you're at the same race, you're yeah, you're

1092
00:55:21,267 --> 00:55:23,147
Speaker 17: always catching up with the other Pews.

1093
00:55:22,947 --> 00:55:26,547
Speaker 2: And Dora, so middle of the Pyrenees. What's that like,

1094
00:55:26,667 --> 00:55:29,107
Speaker 2: living together with a bunch of kiwis all around you.

1095
00:55:29,667 --> 00:55:31,107
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's really cool. Actually, it's.

1096
00:55:32,547 --> 00:55:35,267
Speaker 17: We're really lucky that we'll move over to the other

1097
00:55:35,347 --> 00:55:37,747
Speaker 17: side of the world. And it doesn't really feel that

1098
00:55:37,787 --> 00:55:40,547
Speaker 17: farm because he's surrounded by so many, so many familiar

1099
00:55:40,587 --> 00:55:41,827
Speaker 17: faces outstanding.

1100
00:55:42,267 --> 00:55:44,587
Speaker 2: I just had a look at the UCI schedule, Corbyn.

1101
00:55:44,707 --> 00:55:47,187
Speaker 2: The first race is the Tour down Under in January

1102
00:55:47,227 --> 00:55:50,427
Speaker 2: and it goes all the way to late October. Look,

1103
00:55:50,427 --> 00:55:52,027
Speaker 2: I know you don't write every race, but that is

1104
00:55:52,587 --> 00:55:57,227
Speaker 2: an insane amount of competing a massive schedule over ten months.

1105
00:55:57,467 --> 00:55:59,267
Speaker 2: How do you keep on top of all that writing.

1106
00:56:00,947 --> 00:56:02,827
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's been a bit of a balancing act.

1107
00:56:05,347 --> 00:56:05,547
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1108
00:56:05,547 --> 00:56:08,027
Speaker 17: I think I've definitely got it wrong a few times,

1109
00:56:08,307 --> 00:56:10,587
Speaker 17: and that's probably why I didn't have the Dura I wanted.

1110
00:56:11,667 --> 00:56:13,867
Speaker 17: I started in January a Tour down Under and then

1111
00:56:14,467 --> 00:56:17,307
Speaker 17: didn't really have a break until after the Duo. So

1112
00:56:17,347 --> 00:56:18,747
Speaker 17: I think I got to the Duro I was already

1113
00:56:18,747 --> 00:56:22,187
Speaker 17: a bit run down and thirty egu So after the

1114
00:56:22,267 --> 00:56:24,027
Speaker 17: dur I had like a week or two off and

1115
00:56:25,587 --> 00:56:27,747
Speaker 17: Bologna was my first race back after that. So I

1116
00:56:27,827 --> 00:56:31,787
Speaker 17: think it's really important to refresh and have a bit

1117
00:56:31,787 --> 00:56:35,987
Speaker 17: of rest and stay motivated throughout the season. So I think, yeah,

1118
00:56:35,987 --> 00:56:37,667
Speaker 17: I think I need It's something I need to do

1119
00:56:37,707 --> 00:56:38,867
Speaker 17: a bit more of in the future.

1120
00:56:39,267 --> 00:56:40,867
Speaker 2: All right, Just to finish, we've just had the Tour

1121
00:56:40,907 --> 00:56:44,387
Speaker 2: de Frant's twenty twenty five edition. Finish, you've been in

1122
00:56:44,427 --> 00:56:47,227
Speaker 2: that race yourself, of course, how keen are you to

1123
00:56:47,587 --> 00:56:51,787
Speaker 2: get back to what is the most iconic race in

1124
00:56:51,827 --> 00:56:54,147
Speaker 2: the world. Might we see you back there next year?

1125
00:56:54,187 --> 00:56:54,747
Speaker 14: For example?

1126
00:56:56,947 --> 00:57:01,347
Speaker 18: It's up to the team and their goal of the race.

1127
00:57:01,387 --> 00:57:02,067
Speaker 9: I guess.

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00:57:03,387 --> 00:57:05,587
Speaker 17: For me personally, I think I'm really I've been really

1129
00:57:05,667 --> 00:57:07,667
Speaker 17: close to that winning at the Duo Datalia or the

1130
00:57:07,707 --> 00:57:11,187
Speaker 17: Voltare Spaniard and so that's a big goal of mine.

1131
00:57:11,227 --> 00:57:14,387
Speaker 17: First is to win one of the Grand Fall stage,

1132
00:57:14,467 --> 00:57:16,627
Speaker 17: and I think next year it's a really realistic goal.

1133
00:57:16,787 --> 00:57:19,147
Speaker 17: So I want to focus on that for next year

1134
00:57:19,187 --> 00:57:21,507
Speaker 17: and then hopefully I can take that off then and

1135
00:57:21,547 --> 00:57:23,467
Speaker 17: then obviously the Torter France is the next goal.

1136
00:57:24,427 --> 00:57:25,027
Speaker 9: I think if I.

1137
00:57:27,387 --> 00:57:30,067
Speaker 17: Yeah, I've probably got about ten years left in the sport,

1138
00:57:30,307 --> 00:57:32,747
Speaker 17: and that's probably my biggest goal is to win at

1139
00:57:32,787 --> 00:57:33,467
Speaker 17: the toad France.

1140
00:57:33,587 --> 00:57:36,667
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll watch with interest. Corbyn, thanks indeed

1141
00:57:36,707 --> 00:57:40,187
Speaker 2: for chatting to us, mate, Congratulations again on your GC victory,

1142
00:57:40,227 --> 00:57:42,107
Speaker 2: the first of your pro career at the Tour de

1143
00:57:42,187 --> 00:57:47,507
Speaker 2: Walloni in Belgium last week. That's Corbyn strong ten more years,

1144
00:57:47,547 --> 00:57:50,427
Speaker 2: so yeah, good to hear that. There's plenty ahead for

1145
00:57:50,507 --> 00:57:53,867
Speaker 2: Corbyn strong and targeting stage wins and those Grand Tour

1146
00:57:53,907 --> 00:57:57,307
Speaker 2: events as well, and truly within his grasp, you would imagine,

1147
00:57:57,707 --> 00:58:00,027
Speaker 2: as he heard say there second and one of the

1148
00:58:00,107 --> 00:58:03,707
Speaker 2: stages on the Ziau to tell you this year. So yeah,

1149
00:58:03,907 --> 00:58:06,747
Speaker 2: things going well for Corbyn strong, I see need. Fisher

1150
00:58:06,787 --> 00:58:10,867
Speaker 2: Black was third overnight in the latest stage of the

1151
00:58:10,907 --> 00:58:14,467
Speaker 2: Tour de France Fem, the women's Tour de France. New

1152
00:58:14,507 --> 00:58:18,427
Speaker 2: Fisher Black out of Nelson, obviously living in Europe these

1153
00:58:18,507 --> 00:58:23,507
Speaker 2: days and forging herself a pretty impressive cycling career. She's

1154
00:58:23,547 --> 00:58:27,147
Speaker 2: one of four kiwis in the Tour de France Fem

1155
00:58:27,267 --> 00:58:32,067
Speaker 2: and third overnight in the latest stage, so that's another

1156
00:58:32,107 --> 00:58:35,827
Speaker 2: feather in her cap in her burgeoning career. Now I've

1157
00:58:35,867 --> 00:58:41,027
Speaker 2: just heard, I've just heard that Finlay Christie has been

1158
00:58:41,107 --> 00:58:45,267
Speaker 2: withdrawn from the Tasman squad for today's game against Bay

1159
00:58:45,267 --> 00:58:48,787
Speaker 2: of plenty, which kicks off in around forty minutes from now.

1160
00:58:49,147 --> 00:58:51,547
Speaker 2: So we know what that means, right, Finlay Christie's in

1161
00:58:51,587 --> 00:58:54,547
Speaker 2: the Rugby Championship squad. It doesn't say he's got an injury,

1162
00:58:54,587 --> 00:58:57,147
Speaker 2: nothing like that. It just says team update. This is

1163
00:58:57,187 --> 00:59:01,067
Speaker 2: from the Tasman Muckel social media account. Finlay Christie is

1164
00:59:01,147 --> 00:59:05,227
Speaker 2: unavailable for today's game, That's what it says. So I

1165
00:59:05,227 --> 00:59:07,227
Speaker 2: think we can all put two and two together and

1166
00:59:07,987 --> 00:59:10,347
Speaker 2: get the right answer. Looks like Finlay Christie is coming

1167
00:59:10,347 --> 00:59:14,507
Speaker 2: into the Rugby Championship squad. Noah Hotham injured, so it'll

1168
00:59:14,507 --> 00:59:17,067
Speaker 2: be Finlay Christy who goes as the third half back.

1169
00:59:17,707 --> 00:59:19,707
Speaker 2: Whether he will get any game time, I don't know.

1170
00:59:20,227 --> 00:59:25,227
Speaker 2: He might Roy Garden the ratimas scene like the two,

1171
00:59:25,267 --> 00:59:29,227
Speaker 2: don't they. But I guess across six Test matches and

1172
00:59:29,267 --> 00:59:31,827
Speaker 2: the Rugby Championship you'd expect that perhaps there'll be some

1173
00:59:32,667 --> 00:59:36,507
Speaker 2: rotation around the positions. He might, for example, Finlay Christie

1174
00:59:36,547 --> 00:59:39,107
Speaker 2: play off the bench in the second Test against Argentina.

1175
00:59:39,267 --> 00:59:43,107
Speaker 2: Just spitballing here. Interested to hear some other viewpoints on

1176
00:59:43,107 --> 00:59:46,227
Speaker 2: the All Black squad as well. It gets named tomorrow.

1177
00:59:46,267 --> 00:59:49,147
Speaker 2: This is the thirty six man squad for the Rugby

1178
00:59:49,187 --> 00:59:52,667
Speaker 2: Championship and a couple of players coming back in to

1179
00:59:52,827 --> 00:59:56,627
Speaker 2: Mighty Williams will will come back in, so will Wallace

1180
00:59:56,787 --> 01:00:00,907
Speaker 2: Setiti and I'm hearing also a safe More is available

1181
01:00:00,947 --> 01:00:06,227
Speaker 2: to come back as well, So I wonder whether that

1182
01:00:06,467 --> 01:00:09,227
Speaker 2: might mean that Brody McAllister, having debuted on his home

1183
01:00:09,227 --> 01:00:14,667
Speaker 2: ground against France last month, might drop out. I think

1184
01:00:14,707 --> 01:00:16,867
Speaker 2: a Safawi More probably would have been in the squad

1185
01:00:16,907 --> 01:00:19,947
Speaker 2: had he been fit for the French Tests. So I

1186
01:00:19,947 --> 01:00:22,507
Speaker 2: think a Safawi More might come back in with Summer

1187
01:00:22,547 --> 01:00:26,427
Speaker 2: sauny Toquauho and Cody Taylor, Tomighty Williams as say, we'll

1188
01:00:26,467 --> 01:00:28,427
Speaker 2: come back into the front row. Tyrel Lomax is still

1189
01:00:28,427 --> 01:00:30,187
Speaker 2: battling injury. He's not going to be available for the

1190
01:00:30,227 --> 01:00:33,587
Speaker 2: first at least the first couple of tests of the

1191
01:00:33,627 --> 01:00:36,867
Speaker 2: Rugby Championship, but will still i'd imagine, be included in

1192
01:00:36,907 --> 01:00:41,187
Speaker 2: the squad. Loose forward is the other interesting one. What

1193
01:00:41,267 --> 01:00:44,227
Speaker 2: will they do there? Luke Jacobson and talk about unlucky.

1194
01:00:44,227 --> 01:00:46,227
Speaker 2: He was going to play that third Test in Hamilton

1195
01:00:46,267 --> 01:00:50,627
Speaker 2: but injured himself in the warm up so was out

1196
01:00:50,627 --> 01:00:53,827
Speaker 2: and out for five weeks with a thigh injury again,

1197
01:00:53,867 --> 01:00:55,947
Speaker 2: will probably still be named, but I think they'll take

1198
01:00:56,507 --> 01:00:59,507
Speaker 2: obviously Satiti and probably one other and maybe two other

1199
01:00:59,547 --> 01:01:03,187
Speaker 2: loose forwards, depending I mean whether they class to play

1200
01:01:03,307 --> 01:01:05,347
Speaker 2: as a loose forward or a lock. And he's going

1201
01:01:05,387 --> 01:01:07,747
Speaker 2: to play six by the look of it. But Peter Larkeye,

1202
01:01:07,747 --> 01:01:12,027
Speaker 2: perhaps Simon Parker. I quite after talking to Simon Parker

1203
01:01:12,067 --> 01:01:14,187
Speaker 2: on the radio yesterday, I hope he makes it what

1204
01:01:14,307 --> 01:01:16,467
Speaker 2: it was, just because he was a great rooster but

1205
01:01:16,507 --> 01:01:19,267
Speaker 2: also a really good player. Maybe he might go on

1206
01:01:19,307 --> 01:01:22,027
Speaker 2: the end of your tour rather than this one. Looking

1207
01:01:22,027 --> 01:01:24,027
Speaker 2: around the rest of the squad, I can't say that

1208
01:01:24,027 --> 01:01:30,747
Speaker 2: there'll be too many other surprises. Immonti Nadawah will you'd

1209
01:01:30,787 --> 01:01:34,147
Speaker 2: have to think be in there. Caleb Clark still carrying

1210
01:01:34,147 --> 01:01:36,147
Speaker 2: that injury, and Montie Nadawa will turn out for Bay

1211
01:01:36,187 --> 01:01:39,067
Speaker 2: of Plenty this afternoon. I'd imagine he would still be there.

1212
01:01:39,627 --> 01:01:44,667
Speaker 2: He was added as injury cover and ended up playing

1213
01:01:44,667 --> 01:01:49,947
Speaker 2: in a couple of those test matches. Who else George

1214
01:01:50,027 --> 01:01:54,707
Speaker 2: Dyer perhaps might come into the equation. A couple of

1215
01:01:54,707 --> 01:01:58,987
Speaker 2: tech coming through here. Ken says, full like Christie's been scrubbed. Yep, yep,

1216
01:01:59,067 --> 01:02:02,987
Speaker 2: just a reiseriration of that news, Gary says that will

1217
01:02:03,027 --> 01:02:06,307
Speaker 2: mean Piney know, Harvilli or Blackadder if they're still playing.

1218
01:02:07,067 --> 01:02:11,027
Speaker 2: It's a good point, actually, Gary, there are all blacks playing.

1219
01:02:11,667 --> 01:02:14,787
Speaker 2: I guess with Christy they think, okay, he's our third

1220
01:02:14,827 --> 01:02:17,067
Speaker 2: half back. We just don't want him to get injured,

1221
01:02:17,107 --> 01:02:19,347
Speaker 2: so we have to bring in somebody else whereas An

1222
01:02:19,387 --> 01:02:23,947
Speaker 2: Ethan Blackadder, a David Harvilli. You know, I don't think

1223
01:02:23,987 --> 01:02:26,187
Speaker 2: heavily will begin the squad. Blackadder could be.

1224
01:02:28,507 --> 01:02:28,747
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1225
01:02:29,027 --> 01:02:30,707
Speaker 2: I don't know whether we can add two and two

1226
01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:33,267
Speaker 2: together and say that. For example, Ethan Blackadder definitely won't

1227
01:02:33,267 --> 01:02:35,547
Speaker 2: be in the squad just because he's playing today. But

1228
01:02:35,587 --> 01:02:37,547
Speaker 2: for Finlay Christie, they just don't want him to get

1229
01:02:37,547 --> 01:02:41,267
Speaker 2: injured because then they have to go deeper. Louis Chapman,

1230
01:02:41,307 --> 01:02:43,947
Speaker 2: out played corle Priest in yesterday in the Canterbury Wellington game,

1231
01:02:44,947 --> 01:02:48,587
Speaker 2: says this text, and I'm Accain's and Lions fan. Sure

1232
01:02:48,587 --> 01:02:54,027
Speaker 2: he's behind the winning pack, but Chapman left Tasman Juniber

1233
01:02:54,027 --> 01:02:57,627
Speaker 2: there being too many halfbacks. He's another gay deep play.

1234
01:02:57,707 --> 01:03:03,467
Speaker 2: He put that kick through, didn't he? For Collen Grace's try.

1235
01:03:03,667 --> 01:03:06,827
Speaker 2: Afternoon Jason says Michael something I can not get my

1236
01:03:06,907 --> 01:03:11,787
Speaker 2: head around about team Cycling training twenty four to seven

1237
01:03:11,867 --> 01:03:14,347
Speaker 2: for someone else to take all the glory that is

1238
01:03:14,427 --> 01:03:19,027
Speaker 2: dedication up to the tenth degree. Yeah, it is an

1239
01:03:19,027 --> 01:03:21,387
Speaker 2: interesting one, and he's kind of the cycling expert on

1240
01:03:21,427 --> 01:03:25,427
Speaker 2: this in the show. That would be tough, wouldn't it

1241
01:03:25,547 --> 01:03:27,347
Speaker 2: for a guy like Corbyn Strong. You listen to his

1242
01:03:27,387 --> 01:03:30,387
Speaker 2: interview there Andy and he was able in this one

1243
01:03:30,667 --> 01:03:33,507
Speaker 2: to be the be the star, the general classification winner,

1244
01:03:33,547 --> 01:03:36,987
Speaker 2: but most of the time he's working for somebody else

1245
01:03:36,987 --> 01:03:39,107
Speaker 2: in his team. So there must be cyclists who never

1246
01:03:39,227 --> 01:03:42,667
Speaker 2: win general classification and never in the mix for it.

1247
01:03:42,707 --> 01:03:46,267
Speaker 2: They just basically do their job for someone else's glory.

1248
01:03:46,347 --> 01:03:46,907
Speaker 2: Is that accurate?

1249
01:03:46,987 --> 01:03:50,587
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's really fascinating that whole side of it, because

1250
01:03:51,227 --> 01:03:53,787
Speaker 20: when we look on the obvious one is the most

1251
01:03:53,827 --> 01:03:58,347
Speaker 20: recent Tour de France with Taday Pigatchi, who's incredible, and

1252
01:03:58,387 --> 01:04:03,027
Speaker 20: you watch his teammates like Jonathan Navez and Woaamida and

1253
01:04:03,067 --> 01:04:05,107
Speaker 20: they do all this hard work. They sit in the

1254
01:04:05,147 --> 01:04:07,227
Speaker 20: front and their job is to take all the wind

1255
01:04:08,107 --> 01:04:11,147
Speaker 20: and keep Tade Pagacha out of danger. Then when it

1256
01:04:11,187 --> 01:04:13,547
Speaker 20: comes to the big mountains, they just spring board him

1257
01:04:13,547 --> 01:04:17,867
Speaker 20: and let him let him right away, and they finish tenth, twelfth, twentieth,

1258
01:04:17,867 --> 01:04:20,067
Speaker 20: and the stage and when they get to the end

1259
01:04:20,067 --> 01:04:23,067
Speaker 20: there none of the none of the plaudits are going

1260
01:04:23,107 --> 01:04:25,307
Speaker 20: to them. They're all going to Taday despite the work

1261
01:04:25,347 --> 01:04:28,907
Speaker 20: they do. So it is it's really staggering how much

1262
01:04:28,987 --> 01:04:33,307
Speaker 20: of a team sport cycling is because it's a race,

1263
01:04:33,387 --> 01:04:36,067
Speaker 20: but it's still Yeah, there are guys that just would

1264
01:04:36,147 --> 01:04:39,067
Speaker 20: never win anything, and guys which have certain roles in

1265
01:04:39,107 --> 01:04:42,307
Speaker 20: the team, like Corwyn Strong's mostly a sprinter really, so

1266
01:04:42,307 --> 01:04:45,027
Speaker 20: it was quite cool seeing him take away a full

1267
01:04:45,147 --> 01:04:48,427
Speaker 20: staged race like that. So they do get they get

1268
01:04:48,467 --> 01:04:50,427
Speaker 20: a lot more money though if their guy wins, because

1269
01:04:50,587 --> 01:04:52,867
Speaker 20: that's surprise money and it's already get split.

1270
01:04:53,227 --> 01:04:56,067
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, internally as well, they'd be greatly appreciated, wouldn't they.

1271
01:04:56,107 --> 01:04:58,387
Speaker 2: I'm sure within their own teams they would, you know,

1272
01:04:58,467 --> 01:05:01,747
Speaker 2: their job important as it is, as you've just outlined,

1273
01:05:01,867 --> 01:05:05,587
Speaker 2: they'd get internal gratitude surely.

1274
01:05:05,827 --> 01:05:09,587
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, no, if they're doing if I mean, I mean,

1275
01:05:09,627 --> 01:05:11,947
Speaker 20: if I do my job, well, Piney, you sound good.

1276
01:05:12,067 --> 01:05:14,787
Speaker 20: So that's that's the sort of internal gratitude I've got

1277
01:05:14,827 --> 01:05:16,827
Speaker 20: to deal with as well, isn't it there we go

1278
01:05:18,187 --> 01:05:20,107
Speaker 20: I made it quite a direct analogy to.

1279
01:05:20,067 --> 01:05:20,427
Speaker 2: What we do.

1280
01:05:20,547 --> 01:05:23,707
Speaker 20: But yes, absolutely they'll get they'll get the internal stuff

1281
01:05:23,747 --> 01:05:27,467
Speaker 20: and and their team leaders absolutely know who did all

1282
01:05:27,507 --> 01:05:32,347
Speaker 20: the hard work. And it's it's the team leaders, the winners,

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Speaker 20: the tatapagarches, the Vinger guards, who who do that extra

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Speaker 20: just five that five percent right at the end of

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Speaker 20: the race that the mere mortal, I say, the immortals,

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01:05:40,947 --> 01:05:43,547
Speaker 20: is still elite cyclist. The mere mortals can't quite do

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Speaker 20: those guys make it so the elite ones aren't tired

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Speaker 20: for the for the extremely hard bits.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, good insight, Thanks Andy, I please please, you're

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01:05:53,387 --> 01:05:57,387
Speaker 2: here to make me look good. Y's just say I'm

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01:05:57,387 --> 01:05:59,907
Speaker 2: glad you're here with that insight. So I hope that

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Speaker 2: answers the question. Michael. A couple of other texts before

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01:06:02,467 --> 01:06:05,307
Speaker 2: we move a. What about Sam Dowry, asks Kath. Yeah,

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01:06:05,387 --> 01:06:06,627
Speaker 2: he'd have to be in the mix of the looking

1295
01:06:06,627 --> 01:06:09,667
Speaker 2: for another lock, which they may well be. Nita Cooy

1296
01:06:09,827 --> 01:06:12,467
Speaker 2: was called into the wider training squad at the back

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Speaker 2: end of the French series, so maybe he'll ever's nose

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01:06:14,587 --> 01:06:17,027
Speaker 2: in front. But Sam Dowry obviously made a pretty good

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01:06:17,027 --> 01:06:19,987
Speaker 2: fist of us his first All Blacks appearances last year,

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01:06:19,987 --> 01:06:21,787
Speaker 2: So yeah he could be in their cath and not

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01:06:21,907 --> 01:06:23,747
Speaker 2: just says a soopho. All was on the sideline with

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01:06:23,827 --> 01:06:26,747
Speaker 2: Artie at the Lions game yesterday. Shame about the result,

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01:06:27,307 --> 01:06:29,587
Speaker 2: ses Nigel. Yeah, it was a shame about the result

1304
01:06:29,587 --> 01:06:31,867
Speaker 2: of your alliance fan twenty eight away from two break,

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Speaker 2: Let's get to Totonga after this check in with the

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01:06:34,507 --> 01:06:36,427
Speaker 2: Bay of Bennie Rugby Union ahead of their game against

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Speaker 2: Tasman this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: One crutch Hold engaged Weekend Sport with Jason him and GJ. Gunnomes,

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01:06:44,547 --> 01:06:47,947
Speaker 1: New Zealand's so I was Trusted home Builder News Talks, Hebby.

1310
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Speaker 2: News Talks heb and we Can Sport twenty five to

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01:06:51,747 --> 01:06:56,227
Speaker 2: two Gillis's Piney. They're like backup singers. They're talking about

1312
01:06:56,227 --> 01:06:59,107
Speaker 2: the team members and the cycling. The star gets all

1313
01:06:59,147 --> 01:07:01,827
Speaker 2: the glory, but the backup singers make them sound phenomenal.

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01:07:02,107 --> 01:07:04,027
Speaker 2: It's a special skill and a lot of the time

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Speaker 2: their voices are probably better than this. They don't necessarily

1316
01:07:08,067 --> 01:07:09,947
Speaker 2: want all the glory. That's a good way of putting it.

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01:07:09,947 --> 01:07:12,507
Speaker 2: Some good analogies here Thank you, Gilly. Round one of

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Speaker 2: the Bunning's MPC concludes this afternoon, Hawks Bay Counties, Manico

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01:07:15,747 --> 01:07:18,147
Speaker 2: and Napier from four thirty five and two of the

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01:07:18,187 --> 01:07:22,787
Speaker 2: competition favorites locking horns at five past two. Last year

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01:07:22,827 --> 01:07:25,307
Speaker 2: is beaten finalists the Bay of Plenty Steamer is up

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Speaker 2: against the Tasman muck or five past two todd On

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Speaker 2: thet Demain. Mike Rodgers is Bay of Plenty CEO. Give

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Speaker 2: us a weather update.

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Speaker 5: First of all, Mike, afternoon, piney well as to normal

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Speaker 5: here in Toddra. It's another beautiful afternoon and I'm feeling

1327
01:07:40,707 --> 01:07:42,867
Speaker 5: a bit overdreased with my jacket on, so I think

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01:07:43,147 --> 01:07:43,947
Speaker 5: we'll just need to be chef.

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Speaker 2: We don't get Sunday brilliant mate, I would expect nothing

1330
01:07:47,587 --> 01:07:51,107
Speaker 2: less in terms of a weather report from a Bay

1331
01:07:51,227 --> 01:07:54,547
Speaker 2: resident such as yourself. How Gulling was last year, coming

1332
01:07:54,587 --> 01:07:57,427
Speaker 2: so close before losing an extra time to Wellington in

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Speaker 2: the final.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if i'd use the word gutting.

1335
01:08:01,747 --> 01:08:04,627
Speaker 5: Like we're super proud of our team and that final

1336
01:08:04,787 --> 01:08:07,747
Speaker 5: was just an epic experience to be a part of,

1337
01:08:07,787 --> 01:08:10,427
Speaker 5: you know, one hundred minutes of footy. The only separated way,

1338
01:08:10,787 --> 01:08:12,307
Speaker 5: you know, a penalty goal. I don't know if you

1339
01:08:12,347 --> 01:08:14,787
Speaker 5: could ask for a better fitting finish to a competition,

1340
01:08:14,867 --> 01:08:17,787
Speaker 5: and unfortunately we're on the bed side of that result.

1341
01:08:17,827 --> 01:08:19,827
Speaker 5: But you know, I'm still incredibly proud of what the

1342
01:08:19,867 --> 01:08:22,387
Speaker 5: boys achieved last year and how our community got in

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01:08:22,427 --> 01:08:23,187
Speaker 5: behind them as well.

1344
01:08:23,707 --> 01:08:25,747
Speaker 2: How confident do you fair ahead of the new season

1345
01:08:25,747 --> 01:08:27,747
Speaker 2: that you can you can reach the final again and

1346
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Speaker 2: maybe even go on better.

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01:08:30,987 --> 01:08:32,787
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's a that's a bloody good question. I

1348
01:08:32,787 --> 01:08:35,507
Speaker 5: think this competition just every year gets stronger and stronger,

1349
01:08:35,507 --> 01:08:37,747
Speaker 5: and you see the number of teams that perform so

1350
01:08:37,787 --> 01:08:41,107
Speaker 5: well in the opening round, Canterbury tripping over Wellington obviously

1351
01:08:41,107 --> 01:08:43,427
Speaker 5: Tallannucky looked good yesterday and their performance to hold the

1352
01:08:43,467 --> 01:08:46,667
Speaker 5: rainfully shield so very hard to predict. I think what's

1353
01:08:46,667 --> 01:08:49,187
Speaker 5: going to happen in this competition. I think for our

1354
01:08:49,227 --> 01:08:51,707
Speaker 5: point of view, we've got a pretty you know, consistent

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01:08:51,747 --> 01:08:54,147
Speaker 5: team from last year. We haven't lost too many and

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01:08:54,187 --> 01:08:56,147
Speaker 5: so I think hopefully we can build on on, you know,

1357
01:08:56,187 --> 01:08:58,787
Speaker 5: on last year's performance and the confidence the boys took

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01:08:59,147 --> 01:09:01,587
Speaker 5: from last year showing that they can play, you know,

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Speaker 5: and get all the way through to the final. So

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Speaker 5: but we're under no illusions how tough these these games are,

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01:09:06,187 --> 01:09:08,507
Speaker 5: and De Marco are going to set us a pretty

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01:09:08,907 --> 01:09:10,187
Speaker 5: tough benchmark to start with.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. They Well, I've got a couple of all blacks

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01:09:13,267 --> 01:09:15,307
Speaker 2: back in their team, as have you possibly or Tossi's

1365
01:09:15,307 --> 01:09:18,747
Speaker 2: there and Money Nadawa this afternoon. Nice little booster or

1366
01:09:18,827 --> 01:09:21,307
Speaker 2: quite a big boost to have players of that caliber

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01:09:21,307 --> 01:09:23,147
Speaker 2: available at least early on in the competition.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's always great for the competition when all

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01:09:26,467 --> 01:09:29,067
Speaker 5: blacks are back and involved. And I guess for us,

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Speaker 5: you know, we're so proud of what Tossi's achieved and

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01:09:31,787 --> 01:09:34,427
Speaker 5: what a Money has achieved. And it's a Money's fiftieth

1372
01:09:34,467 --> 01:09:37,787
Speaker 5: game today, so that's a really special moment for him

1373
01:09:37,787 --> 01:09:40,307
Speaker 5: and his fano, so we want to hopefully celebrate with

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Speaker 5: a win.

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Speaker 2: What would it mean to the Bay of Plenty Union

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Speaker 2: to win the NPC.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's been a long time between drinks obviously, nineteen

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Speaker 5: seventy six. As you well know, Poney been a man

1379
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Speaker 5: of sport, So you know, I think it would mean

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01:09:55,827 --> 01:09:59,107
Speaker 5: you know, obviously for this community as a whole, I

1381
01:09:59,107 --> 01:10:01,547
Speaker 5: think would be a really special moment. And we saw

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01:10:01,627 --> 01:10:04,147
Speaker 5: last year even though we didn't quite get the final

1383
01:10:04,227 --> 01:10:06,667
Speaker 5: when you saw the crowds come in to on the

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01:10:06,667 --> 01:10:09,107
Speaker 5: domain and pack the park and really get them behind

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01:10:09,147 --> 01:10:10,907
Speaker 5: the team. So I think that demonstrates how much it

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01:10:10,947 --> 01:10:13,827
Speaker 5: would mean for this community to take that trophy at

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01:10:13,867 --> 01:10:14,667
Speaker 5: the end of the season.

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01:10:15,027 --> 01:10:17,067
Speaker 2: So you played totng of this afternoon. I think four

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01:10:17,107 --> 01:10:19,107
Speaker 2: of your five home games are in Todong are one

1390
01:10:19,187 --> 01:10:21,307
Speaker 2: and rot to do? How do you decide to split?

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01:10:21,307 --> 01:10:23,307
Speaker 2: How do you how do you decide how many games

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01:10:23,307 --> 01:10:25,067
Speaker 2: in Todong are how many and lot de royal that

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01:10:25,147 --> 01:10:25,587
Speaker 2: sort of thing.

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01:10:26,907 --> 01:10:29,627
Speaker 5: Yeah, it comes down to when the games are scheduled.

1395
01:10:29,627 --> 01:10:34,387
Speaker 5: So obviously afternoon games certainly suit tot on a domain. Generally,

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01:10:34,427 --> 01:10:36,347
Speaker 5: we've been lucky enough to have pretty good weather here

1397
01:10:36,347 --> 01:10:39,267
Speaker 5: at the domain and so that's afternoon fixtures sort of

1398
01:10:39,267 --> 01:10:41,827
Speaker 5: suit here. And then we've obviously got no lights here

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01:10:41,827 --> 01:10:43,667
Speaker 5: at Tomoon Domain either, so that sort of makes it

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01:10:43,707 --> 01:10:45,867
Speaker 5: a bit difficult to have night games here and so

1401
01:10:45,867 --> 01:10:47,347
Speaker 5: that's where we look to play our games and not

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01:10:47,507 --> 01:10:49,587
Speaker 5: to do it. But it is a hard decision because

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01:10:49,587 --> 01:10:51,507
Speaker 5: we really want to spread the you know, the games

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01:10:51,507 --> 01:10:55,067
Speaker 5: throughout our region. Because we've seen some fantastic players come

1405
01:10:55,107 --> 01:10:58,107
Speaker 5: out of to Dour and this year Waka won their

1406
01:10:58,427 --> 01:11:00,867
Speaker 5: club competition out of though to do it, so that's

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01:11:01,027 --> 01:11:02,947
Speaker 5: you know, it just shows how strong rugby is right.

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01:11:02,867 --> 01:11:03,467
Speaker 7: Throughout the bay.

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01:11:03,947 --> 01:11:05,747
Speaker 2: What's the drive between the two plays? Is it better

1410
01:11:05,707 --> 01:11:08,747
Speaker 2: an hour? Least an hour between the two I.

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01:11:08,667 --> 01:11:11,027
Speaker 5: Guess it depends on who's driving, Piny. I haven't seen

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01:11:11,067 --> 01:11:15,427
Speaker 5: you in a car, but we've got some decent roads

1413
01:11:15,427 --> 01:11:17,027
Speaker 5: down here in the Vase, so it's sort of forty

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01:11:17,027 --> 01:11:19,347
Speaker 5: five to fifty minutes, Piny. As long as you behave

1415
01:11:19,387 --> 01:11:20,667
Speaker 5: yourself and drive the speed limit.

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01:11:21,267 --> 01:11:23,347
Speaker 2: I love it. That's good. Good to hear. And just

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01:11:23,387 --> 01:11:26,667
Speaker 2: while we've got your the health of grassroots rugby in

1418
01:11:26,987 --> 01:11:28,547
Speaker 2: your province, how would you assess it?

1419
01:11:30,227 --> 01:11:32,587
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's going really well. We've seen some

1420
01:11:32,627 --> 01:11:35,787
Speaker 5: fantastic growth at our junior level and in the female game.

1421
01:11:36,067 --> 01:11:39,187
Speaker 5: Our club competition for our senior woman has grown to

1422
01:11:39,267 --> 01:11:42,587
Speaker 5: fourteen teams. Since that's that's something we're really proud of

1423
01:11:42,627 --> 01:11:45,227
Speaker 5: seeing the growth in that game. There's always going to

1424
01:11:45,227 --> 01:11:47,907
Speaker 5: be challenges and you know in terms of participation and

1425
01:11:48,307 --> 01:11:51,867
Speaker 5: attracting volunteers around coaching and referees. So like the rest

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01:11:51,867 --> 01:11:53,387
Speaker 5: of the country, we've still got a lot of work

1427
01:11:53,427 --> 01:11:56,387
Speaker 5: to do, but you know, I'm pretty heartened by what

1428
01:11:56,467 --> 01:12:00,467
Speaker 5: things we see out there every Saturday, seeing club rugby

1429
01:12:00,507 --> 01:12:03,827
Speaker 5: and school rugby in the great games that you know.

1430
01:12:03,947 --> 01:12:06,787
Speaker 5: I guess we're lucky enough to have fantastic six people

1431
01:12:06,827 --> 01:12:09,267
Speaker 5: supporting our young people and playing the game every week.

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01:12:10,107 --> 01:12:12,187
Speaker 2: Good man, Mike, great to chat here, Thanks for your time.

1433
01:12:12,227 --> 01:12:14,867
Speaker 2: All the best this afternoon and get that sunscreen on, mate.

1434
01:12:15,147 --> 01:12:17,227
Speaker 5: I certainly will thanks you support Funny.

1435
01:12:17,427 --> 01:12:21,787
Speaker 2: Too easy, Mike. Thanks mate, Mike Rodger's top Man Bop CEO.

1436
01:12:21,907 --> 01:12:24,307
Speaker 2: Ahead of their first game in the Bunnings MPC this afternoon,

1437
01:12:24,347 --> 01:12:27,867
Speaker 2: they host Tasman at the Todonga Domain from five past two.

1438
01:12:27,907 --> 01:12:29,867
Speaker 2: We've got a commentary for you on Gold Sport and

1439
01:12:29,907 --> 01:12:33,067
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio nineteen to two Back in the Moth with James mcconey.

1440
01:12:34,387 --> 01:12:37,307
Speaker 1: You be the TMO, have yours say on eight hundred

1441
01:12:37,307 --> 01:12:42,107
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekends Sport with Jason Pain and GJ. Guvnerholmes,

1442
01:12:42,307 --> 01:12:46,667
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1443
01:12:46,787 --> 01:12:50,067
Speaker 2: The Warriors Women are about six minutes away from kickoff

1444
01:12:50,267 --> 01:12:54,507
Speaker 2: in their Magic Round Rugby League match against the Cowboys

1445
01:12:54,507 --> 01:12:56,347
Speaker 2: looking for their second one of the season. Will keep

1446
01:12:56,387 --> 01:12:58,587
Speaker 2: eyes on that for you, as of course we will

1447
01:12:58,667 --> 01:13:02,107
Speaker 2: on Bay of plenty Tasman after two in the NPC.

1448
01:13:02,387 --> 01:13:06,507
Speaker 2: James mcconey's here as usual on a Sunday. Hello mate,

1449
01:13:07,227 --> 01:13:07,907
Speaker 2: good a poney?

1450
01:13:07,987 --> 01:13:09,587
Speaker 8: How things Yeah, very good?

1451
01:13:09,627 --> 01:13:11,987
Speaker 2: Thanks very good. A list of things I'd like to

1452
01:13:11,987 --> 01:13:15,387
Speaker 2: get your views on today, starting with the Wallabies are

1453
01:13:15,387 --> 01:13:18,427
Speaker 2: face saving twenty to twelve winn and the Third Test

1454
01:13:18,907 --> 01:13:20,947
Speaker 2: over the British and Irish lines and Sydney last night

1455
01:13:20,947 --> 01:13:23,387
Speaker 2: and absolutely poured down for some of this game. What

1456
01:13:23,387 --> 01:13:24,907
Speaker 2: did you make of it all?

1457
01:13:25,467 --> 01:13:27,947
Speaker 8: I thought, I mean, for what was essentially a dead

1458
01:13:28,027 --> 01:13:30,307
Speaker 8: rubber that was still very willing, and I thought, you know,

1459
01:13:30,387 --> 01:13:33,747
Speaker 8: the pride of the Lions pun intended, lets be honest,

1460
01:13:33,787 --> 01:13:36,707
Speaker 8: and also the fact that the Wallabies needed to save

1461
01:13:36,827 --> 01:13:39,827
Speaker 8: some face or get something out of it. A whitewash

1462
01:13:39,987 --> 01:13:43,027
Speaker 8: is pretty damning for a proud Test nation like them.

1463
01:13:43,067 --> 01:13:45,987
Speaker 8: They stood up and look across the board. There were

1464
01:13:46,027 --> 01:13:48,827
Speaker 8: some real heroes, but Nick White playing his final Test,

1465
01:13:49,227 --> 01:13:51,587
Speaker 8: the man with the big mustache, she looks like a

1466
01:13:51,627 --> 01:13:55,707
Speaker 8: time traveler. Phineas Fogg, Nigel Thornberry call them what you will,

1467
01:13:56,027 --> 01:13:59,707
Speaker 8: but He's a scrappy little bagger at halfback and I

1468
01:13:59,747 --> 01:14:02,227
Speaker 8: think he epitomized what the Wallabies needed to do, which

1469
01:14:02,267 --> 01:14:03,507
Speaker 8: was fight for the win.

1470
01:14:04,067 --> 01:14:07,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just a he is. That's a street fighter,

1471
01:14:07,147 --> 01:14:08,947
Speaker 2: isn't he Say what you like about him? He can

1472
01:14:08,987 --> 01:14:11,387
Speaker 2: annoy you, but I'm sure most of his teammates and

1473
01:14:11,427 --> 01:14:14,387
Speaker 2: that probably all of them would love having him on

1474
01:14:14,427 --> 01:14:16,867
Speaker 2: their team for that reason totally.

1475
01:14:16,907 --> 01:14:19,027
Speaker 8: And this team, even though he's on his way out,

1476
01:14:19,067 --> 01:14:21,347
Speaker 8: this team really is a work in progress. I mean,

1477
01:14:21,387 --> 01:14:23,907
Speaker 8: I'm not sure how long Will Skelton will be around.

1478
01:14:23,947 --> 01:14:27,107
Speaker 8: He was immense as well. He is immense Aukland born

1479
01:14:27,147 --> 01:14:29,467
Speaker 8: by the way. I think he was in New Zealand

1480
01:14:29,507 --> 01:14:32,307
Speaker 8: until he was ten years old, so really a big

1481
01:14:32,387 --> 01:14:35,147
Speaker 8: lump of a kiwi helping them out. And he's thirty three,

1482
01:14:35,347 --> 01:14:39,387
Speaker 8: so you know there's a lot I guess of change happening.

1483
01:14:39,427 --> 01:14:42,867
Speaker 8: And you can see Joseph Sulie, the superstar at center,

1484
01:14:43,267 --> 01:14:46,947
Speaker 8: just growing with every game. So the Wallabies by no

1485
01:14:47,067 --> 01:14:50,707
Speaker 8: means are a finished product. But you know, I actually was.

1486
01:14:51,107 --> 01:14:53,747
Speaker 8: I was rooting for them, pony. I'm an anzac and

1487
01:14:53,827 --> 01:14:55,947
Speaker 8: I did. I didn't want the Lions to win. I

1488
01:14:56,027 --> 01:14:58,787
Speaker 8: just find them a little bit annoying and slightly arrogant

1489
01:14:58,787 --> 01:14:59,227
Speaker 8: at times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, and I was the same as you.

1491
01:15:01,747 --> 01:15:04,267
Speaker 2: I was watching that game last night and if I

1492
01:15:04,307 --> 01:15:07,227
Speaker 2: was cheering for anybody it was it was certainly the Wallabies.

1493
01:15:07,347 --> 01:15:10,507
Speaker 2: Now they'll go away for the Rugby Championship now, of course,

1494
01:15:10,547 --> 01:15:12,547
Speaker 2: so busy the old year for them. The All Black

1495
01:15:12,587 --> 01:15:16,267
Speaker 2: squad for the Rugby Championship named tomorrow. We've just heard

1496
01:15:16,267 --> 01:15:18,787
Speaker 2: that finnlake Christy has been withdrawn from the Tasman team

1497
01:15:18,867 --> 01:15:21,067
Speaker 2: to take on Bay of Plenty this afternoon. So I

1498
01:15:21,107 --> 01:15:23,587
Speaker 2: think we know who the third half back replacing Noah

1499
01:15:23,587 --> 01:15:26,347
Speaker 2: Hotham is going to be. Who else is named? Do

1500
01:15:26,387 --> 01:15:28,467
Speaker 2: you expect to be there tomorrow who perhaps didn't play

1501
01:15:28,547 --> 01:15:29,027
Speaker 2: last month?

1502
01:15:29,827 --> 01:15:32,147
Speaker 8: Well, I think we've got a bombshell for you here, pony,

1503
01:15:32,227 --> 01:15:35,147
Speaker 8: because I'm hearing that Cam Royguard is injured as well.

1504
01:15:35,547 --> 01:15:37,907
Speaker 8: So that's just something that's going to be firmed up,

1505
01:15:37,947 --> 01:15:40,227
Speaker 8: possibly in the next thirty minutes, So stay tuned to

1506
01:15:40,667 --> 01:15:44,187
Speaker 8: newstorg ZB for all your rugby updates. But that's the

1507
01:15:44,187 --> 01:15:47,187
Speaker 8: word I'm hearing from the or Blacks camp. They concerned

1508
01:15:47,267 --> 01:15:49,747
Speaker 8: it could be a stress back fracture. Of some kind.

1509
01:15:50,267 --> 01:15:53,347
Speaker 8: But that means we're going deep into the halfback reserves.

1510
01:15:53,867 --> 01:15:57,227
Speaker 8: But just on that, if that's another injury to add

1511
01:15:57,267 --> 01:16:00,027
Speaker 8: to the list, what a list it is. And currently

1512
01:16:00,307 --> 01:16:02,867
Speaker 8: and I think you've gone through a lot of the players.

1513
01:16:02,867 --> 01:16:05,747
Speaker 8: I mean we've got Scott and Bowden barried out, there's

1514
01:16:05,787 --> 01:16:10,587
Speaker 8: Wallace a t there's Tupo via under concussion protocol, Tyra Lomax.

1515
01:16:10,787 --> 01:16:14,067
Speaker 8: The list goes on. Caleb Clark's gone as well. So

1516
01:16:14,667 --> 01:16:17,787
Speaker 8: I think when you aim for that sixth of September Test,

1517
01:16:17,827 --> 01:16:20,307
Speaker 8: this is the biggest Test match for a long time

1518
01:16:20,347 --> 01:16:23,227
Speaker 8: in New Zealand against the spring Box at Eden Park.

1519
01:16:24,467 --> 01:16:27,507
Speaker 8: The I think it's steady. How many years Piny helped

1520
01:16:27,507 --> 01:16:29,587
Speaker 8: me out here thirty one.

1521
01:16:29,467 --> 01:16:33,067
Speaker 2: Years, nineteen ninety four, Yes, nineteen ninety four.

1522
01:16:33,827 --> 01:16:36,467
Speaker 8: So do you go that Test match? I think you

1523
01:16:36,467 --> 01:16:40,027
Speaker 8: know Razer will be thinking I'm not here to fornicate

1524
01:16:40,067 --> 01:16:43,387
Speaker 8: with the Raknids. I need to actually pick the best guy.

1525
01:16:43,507 --> 01:16:47,107
Speaker 8: So you know, giving Lester finding a nuku some time

1526
01:16:47,107 --> 01:16:49,547
Speaker 8: at NPC was a nice idea. No, I think he

1527
01:16:49,587 --> 01:16:52,707
Speaker 8: gets called in Finley Christie. Of course we just talked

1528
01:16:52,707 --> 01:16:56,187
Speaker 8: about we will need another half back. I'm a Xavier

1529
01:16:56,267 --> 01:17:00,027
Speaker 8: ro fan. I'm sure you're a Kyle Preston fan. I mean,

1530
01:17:00,107 --> 01:17:03,907
Speaker 8: they do need someone to come in. There's obviously Dylan Pledge,

1531
01:17:03,987 --> 01:17:06,947
Speaker 8: the other twenties half back highly rated. Raisor love him

1532
01:17:06,987 --> 01:17:09,667
Speaker 8: as well. So what's the space on that. I know

1533
01:17:09,707 --> 01:17:12,547
Speaker 8: it's a lot to process. I'm sure you're right now going,

1534
01:17:12,867 --> 01:17:15,307
Speaker 8: holy crap, Polo, what's telling on about?

1535
01:17:15,667 --> 01:17:17,947
Speaker 2: That's what I'm doing. I sort of sunken down in

1536
01:17:18,027 --> 01:17:21,387
Speaker 2: my chair with this news that Cam Royguard perhaps has

1537
01:17:21,427 --> 01:17:23,707
Speaker 2: a question mark over him, And it does make sense

1538
01:17:23,707 --> 01:17:26,707
Speaker 2: when you think about Finlay Christy being withdrawn from the game.

1539
01:17:26,707 --> 01:17:28,107
Speaker 2: I was trying to get my head around it before,

1540
01:17:28,107 --> 01:17:30,267
Speaker 2: thinking would they withdraw the third half back? Maybe they

1541
01:17:30,307 --> 01:17:32,347
Speaker 2: would just in case he gets engine They got to

1542
01:17:32,347 --> 01:17:34,667
Speaker 2: call someone in at the eleventh hour. But if roy

1543
01:17:34,707 --> 01:17:38,107
Speaker 2: Guard's out, So what are we talking here? Latimer Christy

1544
01:17:38,907 --> 01:17:41,347
Speaker 2: and one other? I mean, are we you mentioned a

1545
01:17:41,347 --> 01:17:43,187
Speaker 2: couple there? I like Xavier rah as well. What about

1546
01:17:43,187 --> 01:17:45,187
Speaker 2: they wouldn't go back to fial Fucktava, would they?

1547
01:17:45,827 --> 01:17:45,987
Speaker 9: Well?

1548
01:17:46,027 --> 01:17:47,787
Speaker 8: I think they have to consider him. I think they

1549
01:17:47,827 --> 01:17:50,507
Speaker 8: really do, and I mean Dylan Fleager is kind of

1550
01:17:50,507 --> 01:17:53,107
Speaker 8: on the way up. But the experiment when the test

1551
01:17:53,147 --> 01:17:56,427
Speaker 8: matches of this magnitude, you know, getting thrown in. I

1552
01:17:56,427 --> 01:17:59,827
Speaker 8: don't think so, because you know, even Tom Lioner had

1553
01:17:59,827 --> 01:18:02,547
Speaker 8: a full season of Super Rugby before he was thrown

1554
01:18:02,587 --> 01:18:04,987
Speaker 8: into that first Lines Test, which I thought was a

1555
01:18:04,987 --> 01:18:07,667
Speaker 8: bit of a hospital pass for him. But for this

1556
01:18:07,947 --> 01:18:11,227
Speaker 8: really is I think you have to go for someone experienced.

1557
01:18:11,307 --> 01:18:14,067
Speaker 8: Xavier Rowe started a lot of key games for the

1558
01:18:14,147 --> 01:18:17,347
Speaker 8: Chiefs through and throughout most of Super Rugby and that

1559
01:18:17,427 --> 01:18:19,707
Speaker 8: might be the body of work that gets him across

1560
01:18:19,747 --> 01:18:22,907
Speaker 8: the line. But for Alfa Tava, he's been in the

1561
01:18:23,387 --> 01:18:26,747
Speaker 8: in camp before, and you know he's got that athleticism

1562
01:18:26,747 --> 01:18:29,547
Speaker 8: and power that you probably need against the spring box.

1563
01:18:29,947 --> 01:18:32,347
Speaker 2: All right, well, keep our eyes on this. This is yes,

1564
01:18:32,627 --> 01:18:35,387
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm trying to process it in real

1565
01:18:35,467 --> 01:18:40,467
Speaker 2: time here actually a MPC. It's been great, hasn't a

1566
01:18:40,467 --> 01:18:41,747
Speaker 2: part of the fact, Well, hath he got beat by

1567
01:18:41,787 --> 01:18:45,147
Speaker 2: Canterbury US today? I've loved the first five or six games.

1568
01:18:45,827 --> 01:18:48,147
Speaker 8: Well, first of all, how great was that scene in

1569
01:18:48,227 --> 01:18:51,427
Speaker 8: Potty Daw at Jerry Collins Stadium. If you live in POTTYDA,

1570
01:18:51,627 --> 01:18:53,827
Speaker 8: you can just walk up the hill right and watch

1571
01:18:54,867 --> 01:19:00,707
Speaker 8: Billy Proctor Ruben Love, Peter Larkeye, all the star Cantaburians

1572
01:19:00,707 --> 01:19:04,027
Speaker 8: and the team. I mean that is amazing. Sort of

1573
01:19:04,187 --> 01:19:08,027
Speaker 8: it's pseudo grassroots rugby, but really you're watching the superstars

1574
01:19:08,587 --> 01:19:10,427
Speaker 8: just in suburban Wellington.

1575
01:19:10,467 --> 01:19:10,947
Speaker 7: I love that.

1576
01:19:11,707 --> 01:19:13,387
Speaker 8: Yeah, sorry about your team, Piney.

1577
01:19:13,267 --> 01:19:16,307
Speaker 2: No, I no, and funny I live, I literally live

1578
01:19:16,467 --> 01:19:19,067
Speaker 2: ten minutes from a ten minute would be a brisk

1579
01:19:19,147 --> 01:19:21,787
Speaker 2: ten minute walk from potty to a park, so I

1580
01:19:21,787 --> 01:19:24,747
Speaker 2: could do exactly what you just suggested if I wasn't working.

1581
01:19:25,827 --> 01:19:31,027
Speaker 8: I knowedn't. But then Tuesday night we have to talk

1582
01:19:31,027 --> 01:19:35,427
Speaker 8: about this game on Mrler's all day. But they look

1583
01:19:35,507 --> 01:19:37,707
Speaker 8: dead and buried and this is kind of like coming

1584
01:19:37,747 --> 01:19:40,587
Speaker 8: back from out of nowhere to win that game. But

1585
01:19:40,627 --> 01:19:44,467
Speaker 8: also Lemasopowanga, what a story. Yes he is seven kilo's

1586
01:19:44,467 --> 01:19:48,907
Speaker 8: too heavy, but who's not poney, you know, like I'm

1587
01:19:48,947 --> 01:19:52,387
Speaker 8: holding my hand up way more than seven. But the

1588
01:19:52,467 --> 01:19:55,307
Speaker 8: thing is he made the break, he got the return pass,

1589
01:19:55,547 --> 01:19:58,267
Speaker 8: scored that key try, but all could still had a

1590
01:19:58,347 --> 01:20:00,907
Speaker 8: chance to win it. So I thought drama. In terms

1591
01:20:00,947 --> 01:20:04,707
Speaker 8: of drama, you couldn't have asked for a more huge

1592
01:20:04,747 --> 01:20:09,107
Speaker 8: game for the Stand Thomas Trophy. But also rated really

1593
01:20:09,147 --> 01:20:11,707
Speaker 8: well as on Sky, so there is a lot of

1594
01:20:11,707 --> 01:20:12,507
Speaker 8: love for the NPC.

1595
01:20:13,267 --> 01:20:16,307
Speaker 2: I like I like it that these these more experienced

1596
01:20:16,307 --> 01:20:18,307
Speaker 2: players are coming back. I watched the Turbos and I

1597
01:20:18,307 --> 01:20:20,627
Speaker 2: saw Laney La Marti out there and I thought, this

1598
01:20:20,907 --> 01:20:22,747
Speaker 2: is great. I just love it.

1599
01:20:23,507 --> 01:20:25,747
Speaker 8: Well, I do have a theory that that there's about

1600
01:20:25,827 --> 01:20:28,307
Speaker 8: five or six MPC back lines that are better than

1601
01:20:28,347 --> 01:20:32,067
Speaker 8: the Welsh back line. Okay, so I know Wales is

1602
01:20:32,067 --> 01:20:33,267
Speaker 8: in a bit of a slump, but they are a

1603
01:20:33,547 --> 01:20:36,267
Speaker 8: Tier one Test nation and they've almost made the World

1604
01:20:36,307 --> 01:20:39,587
Speaker 8: Cup semi final last time in twenty twenty three. But

1605
01:20:39,707 --> 01:20:42,387
Speaker 8: I think there's five or six MPC back lines that

1606
01:20:42,427 --> 01:20:45,667
Speaker 8: are better than Whales. So you know, when when you

1607
01:20:45,667 --> 01:20:48,227
Speaker 8: get into type five, it's hard to find some you know,

1608
01:20:48,347 --> 01:20:51,347
Speaker 8: really elite tall timber. But I think in terms of backs,

1609
01:20:51,427 --> 01:20:53,347
Speaker 8: we are an absolute factory.

1610
01:20:53,507 --> 01:20:55,667
Speaker 2: Still in New Zealand, Oh have you have you seen

1611
01:20:55,667 --> 01:21:01,707
Speaker 2: the Tasman backline this afternoon? Yeah? Well Christie's out now obviously,

1612
01:21:01,707 --> 01:21:04,427
Speaker 2: but the two have viaries at ten and twelve are

1613
01:21:04,507 --> 01:21:07,467
Speaker 2: mooor Springer Tava Tava nah why into moy Filoo.

1614
01:21:08,067 --> 01:21:12,587
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's one, there's one, and there's straight away Whykato

1615
01:21:12,667 --> 01:21:15,867
Speaker 8: was another, and Auckland is another. I think, you know,

1616
01:21:15,987 --> 01:21:18,307
Speaker 8: like there's and I think the Wellington back line too.

1617
01:21:18,387 --> 01:21:21,267
Speaker 8: I mean, okay, Welles probably say we're happy because Louis

1618
01:21:21,307 --> 01:21:25,027
Speaker 8: Rhee Sammit's coming back from NFL, but I would say

1619
01:21:25,067 --> 01:21:27,787
Speaker 8: there's plenty of these these back lines that could go

1620
01:21:28,227 --> 01:21:30,827
Speaker 8: the distance of test Rugby, you know Canterbury as well.

1621
01:21:31,627 --> 01:21:33,547
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, hey, God to leave it there, But I

1622
01:21:33,547 --> 01:21:35,187
Speaker 2: don't know. There was other things on my list which

1623
01:21:35,227 --> 01:21:37,867
Speaker 2: I can't get to. Some my apologies for that, but yeah,

1624
01:21:37,947 --> 01:21:41,347
Speaker 2: let's I'm keeping a fingers crossed that that your oil

1625
01:21:41,467 --> 01:21:43,507
Speaker 2: is wrong. I know it won't be, but we'll keep

1626
01:21:43,547 --> 01:21:45,427
Speaker 2: eyes on the roy Guard situation and are you and

1627
01:21:45,427 --> 01:21:47,147
Speaker 2: I can Chatnick Sunday if that works for you.

1628
01:21:47,907 --> 01:21:49,907
Speaker 8: Yeah, Pony, next time have a bombshell. I will come

1629
01:21:49,907 --> 01:21:51,147
Speaker 8: and going, did you do do do?

1630
01:21:51,147 --> 01:21:51,307
Speaker 3: Do?

1631
01:21:51,307 --> 01:21:51,507
Speaker 8: Do?

1632
01:21:51,507 --> 01:21:52,027
Speaker 3: Do do do?

1633
01:21:52,227 --> 01:21:56,587
Speaker 2: Sorry about that, that's all right, James mcconey, massive part

1634
01:21:56,587 --> 01:21:58,547
Speaker 2: of our Sundays on ZB seventy two.

1635
01:22:00,667 --> 01:22:03,387
Speaker 1: From the Track, Fields and the Court on your home

1636
01:22:03,427 --> 01:22:07,267
Speaker 1: of Sorts weekends for it with Jason by the News Talks.

1637
01:22:07,107 --> 01:22:10,267
Speaker 2: MB News TALKSB three and a half two two after two,

1638
01:22:10,387 --> 01:22:13,227
Speaker 2: a bumper edition of in case you missed it, plenty

1639
01:22:13,347 --> 01:22:15,827
Speaker 2: that we want to update you on over the last

1640
01:22:15,827 --> 01:22:19,627
Speaker 2: twenty four hours or so. We'll also keep eyes on

1641
01:22:19,747 --> 01:22:22,867
Speaker 2: the Bay of Plenty Tasman game which is about to

1642
01:22:22,867 --> 01:22:26,427
Speaker 2: get underway, and the Warriors women as well, and we'll

1643
01:22:26,427 --> 01:22:29,307
Speaker 2: get inside Phoenix h Q. It's been a big week

1644
01:22:29,307 --> 01:22:34,027
Speaker 2: for the women's program. Could they be contenders?

1645
01:22:34,067 --> 01:22:36,947
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest spoors issues on

1646
01:22:37,347 --> 01:22:41,227
Speaker 1: and after field, it's all on weekends Forward with Jason

1647
01:22:41,307 --> 01:22:47,787
Speaker 1: Vaine on your home of sport US TALKSB two o seven.

1648
01:22:47,827 --> 01:22:49,347
Speaker 2: Never let it be said that we don't bring you

1649
01:22:49,387 --> 01:22:53,707
Speaker 2: the news first. James mcconey telling us twenty minutes ago

1650
01:22:53,747 --> 01:22:55,787
Speaker 2: that he'd heard that cam roy Guard was out for

1651
01:22:55,787 --> 01:22:58,547
Speaker 2: the start of the Rugby Championship, and a few moments

1652
01:22:58,627 --> 01:23:02,707
Speaker 2: later the official email hits our in box. Cam roy

1653
01:23:02,747 --> 01:23:05,747
Speaker 2: Guard will miss the start of the competition, the Rugby Championship.

1654
01:23:05,787 --> 01:23:09,187
Speaker 2: That is due to stress fracture in his foot. He

1655
01:23:09,227 --> 01:23:12,227
Speaker 2: won't go to Argentina. He'll be assessed in a couple

1656
01:23:12,227 --> 01:23:16,227
Speaker 2: of weeks ahead of the matches against South Africa. Naah

1657
01:23:16,307 --> 01:23:18,947
Speaker 2: Hotham of course, has already been ruled out, so we're

1658
01:23:18,947 --> 01:23:22,267
Speaker 2: starting to get a bit short on halfbacks. Liam Napier

1659
01:23:22,827 --> 01:23:25,747
Speaker 2: going to pop in for a chat New Zealand Herald

1660
01:23:25,907 --> 01:23:30,187
Speaker 2: Rugby writer as we look at the depth chart of

1661
01:23:30,267 --> 01:23:33,707
Speaker 2: halfbacks with this news that Cam Royguard will not play

1662
01:23:34,227 --> 01:23:38,067
Speaker 2: either of the Tests against Argentina then the next three

1663
01:23:38,107 --> 01:23:40,227
Speaker 2: weeks or so, let's hope he is back in time

1664
01:23:40,267 --> 01:23:45,467
Speaker 2: for those South African tests. Stress fracture. You never know,

1665
01:23:45,627 --> 01:23:49,587
Speaker 2: do you. Anyway, we'll get to that. We'll also get

1666
01:23:49,587 --> 01:23:53,307
Speaker 2: to the Wellington Phoenix. They've had a good week signing

1667
01:23:53,427 --> 01:23:57,307
Speaker 2: or announcing the signing of Beef Priestman as the women's

1668
01:23:57,307 --> 01:24:00,867
Speaker 2: head coach for the next two seasons, adding fifty cap

1669
01:24:00,947 --> 01:24:05,187
Speaker 2: football Ferns defender c J Bott to an already impressive roster.

1670
01:24:05,267 --> 01:24:07,947
Speaker 2: So things looking good for the women. And also want

1671
01:24:07,947 --> 01:24:10,147
Speaker 2: to chat to a man who made history in the

1672
01:24:10,187 --> 01:24:14,907
Speaker 2: last couple of months, Zack Prendergaste. He became the first

1673
01:24:14,947 --> 01:24:17,787
Speaker 2: New Zealander to officiate on the iconic Tour de France.

1674
01:24:18,627 --> 01:24:22,867
Speaker 2: He served as a technical commissaire. So what is that,

1675
01:24:23,867 --> 01:24:25,627
Speaker 2: what did his role involve and what was it like

1676
01:24:25,707 --> 01:24:28,547
Speaker 2: over there? Zach Prendergast. This hour too will keep eyes

1677
01:24:28,587 --> 01:24:31,827
Speaker 2: on the live sport happening. They're underway at as Mike

1678
01:24:31,907 --> 01:24:34,147
Speaker 2: Rodger just told us, a sun soaked tod on the domain.

1679
01:24:34,547 --> 01:24:36,707
Speaker 2: Three minutes gone, no score between Bay of Plenty and

1680
01:24:36,747 --> 01:24:40,147
Speaker 2: Tasman in the NPC, and as we heard during the

1681
01:24:40,307 --> 01:24:43,707
Speaker 2: Sports news, the Cowboys up against the Warriors in the

1682
01:24:43,827 --> 01:24:46,707
Speaker 2: NRLW and the Warriors have just caught a tripe to

1683
01:24:46,787 --> 01:24:49,387
Speaker 2: take it back to six four. Say that again, Andy,

1684
01:24:50,947 --> 01:24:54,507
Speaker 2: it's been scratched off. Thank you, Andy. Never let it

1685
01:24:54,507 --> 01:24:58,187
Speaker 2: be said that we are not right up today. I

1686
01:24:58,267 --> 01:25:00,507
Speaker 2: was looking at it update in front of me and

1687
01:25:00,507 --> 01:25:03,067
Speaker 2: Andy has told me that tries been chalked off, so

1688
01:25:03,107 --> 01:25:07,027
Speaker 2: it remains six nil. As we always do at this

1689
01:25:07,347 --> 01:25:10,427
Speaker 2: time on weekend sport, let's get you up to date

1690
01:25:10,427 --> 01:25:12,747
Speaker 2: with some of the stuff that's happened over the last

1691
01:25:12,747 --> 01:25:15,427
Speaker 2: twenty four hours or so that might have escaped your attention.

1692
01:25:16,227 --> 01:25:19,107
Speaker 2: In case youmist that, we call it. Starting with Formula

1693
01:25:19,107 --> 01:25:24,147
Speaker 2: one qualifying in Hungary, ninth for Liam Lawson. So another

1694
01:25:24,187 --> 01:25:27,507
Speaker 2: top ten position, qualifying ninth on the grid tomorrow morning,

1695
01:25:27,547 --> 01:25:32,347
Speaker 2: but a surprise with who came home as the top qualifier.

1696
01:25:32,427 --> 01:25:34,467
Speaker 13: The stamping crosses the line is ONDP eight.

1697
01:25:34,827 --> 01:25:37,747
Speaker 14: Guess what Ferrari have a pole.

1698
01:25:37,547 --> 01:25:39,827
Speaker 9: Position through Charlequare.

1699
01:25:40,187 --> 01:25:43,307
Speaker 15: It's chairs and it's a pause of the prairie garage

1700
01:25:43,587 --> 01:25:45,587
Speaker 15: through first poll for the scoon.

1701
01:25:45,307 --> 01:25:46,787
Speaker 14: Area in a tree.

1702
01:25:47,187 --> 01:25:48,467
Speaker 9: It's twenty twenty.

1703
01:25:48,107 --> 01:25:50,707
Speaker 2: Five here Charler Claire off the front of the grid.

1704
01:25:50,747 --> 01:25:53,627
Speaker 2: Then the two McLaren's after that to the NRL. The

1705
01:25:53,667 --> 01:25:56,627
Speaker 2: Panthers continued their winning streak, but they need a golden

1706
01:25:56,667 --> 01:25:59,427
Speaker 2: point to do. It's a luggy Cleary.

1707
01:26:00,147 --> 01:26:08,467
Speaker 21: There's McLean outside of his chickens eyes everywhere. Lennards Denuda,

1708
01:26:09,467 --> 01:26:10,667
Speaker 21: what's the laggin.

1709
01:26:12,027 --> 01:26:14,827
Speaker 2: Ye thirty twenty six over the Gold Coast Titans, who

1710
01:26:14,867 --> 01:26:17,907
Speaker 2: are causing a few problems that belie their table position.

1711
01:26:18,467 --> 01:26:20,107
Speaker 2: There was an upset in Woollongong as well.

1712
01:26:20,267 --> 01:26:24,307
Speaker 15: Then Flannigans there laid the lure into a hole, ticked.

1713
01:26:23,987 --> 01:26:26,907
Speaker 21: On both free and they under Corey Allen and.

1714
01:26:27,027 --> 01:26:31,147
Speaker 15: The Dragons too got them sty roof big hands on

1715
01:26:31,307 --> 01:26:32,507
Speaker 15: that left hand side.

1716
01:26:32,587 --> 01:26:34,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dragon spinning the Raiders eighteen twelve, and then

1717
01:26:35,027 --> 01:26:38,587
Speaker 2: the Roosters tweety points to four over the Sea Eagles

1718
01:26:38,667 --> 01:26:40,907
Speaker 2: and are soaked brook Vale Oval to.

1719
01:26:40,987 --> 01:26:44,307
Speaker 15: High one walk out for sure if you get it there,

1720
01:26:44,787 --> 01:26:48,787
Speaker 15: but goes that's going back great it's Edo butt and

1721
01:26:48,987 --> 01:26:49,627
Speaker 15: he's over.

1722
01:26:49,587 --> 01:26:50,267
Speaker 3: For the try.

1723
01:26:51,587 --> 01:26:52,947
Speaker 5: Six get backwards him.

1724
01:26:52,987 --> 01:26:54,267
Speaker 14: It's going to be a four pointer.

1725
01:26:55,107 --> 01:26:56,667
Speaker 15: It's another rooster's try.

1726
01:26:57,147 --> 01:27:00,507
Speaker 2: The NPC had a triple head of yesterday, Canterbury taking

1727
01:27:00,587 --> 01:27:02,707
Speaker 2: the spoils over Wellington at pottyto.

1728
01:27:02,387 --> 01:27:06,227
Speaker 15: A park Bason behind well the twenty two dribbles its

1729
01:27:06,507 --> 01:27:08,907
Speaker 15: close to the guy and regain it. Oh my goodness,

1730
01:27:09,387 --> 01:27:13,707
Speaker 15: right hand takes light time. Colent Grace, the Cannony skipper

1731
01:27:13,867 --> 01:27:16,107
Speaker 15: was there and they lead twenty four.

1732
01:27:16,067 --> 01:27:18,787
Speaker 2: Ten and won thirty three point fifteen over the defending

1733
01:27:18,867 --> 01:27:23,467
Speaker 2: champion Lions. Otago claimed stag Day and in Vicargo.

1734
01:27:23,307 --> 01:27:26,667
Speaker 15: Now Christian Leo Willie he gets the legs popping, it's

1735
01:27:26,747 --> 01:27:27,307
Speaker 15: taken down.

1736
01:27:27,467 --> 01:27:29,667
Speaker 18: Play On gets up and he's over.

1737
01:27:30,107 --> 01:27:32,307
Speaker 2: Try to Christian Leo Willie and.

1738
01:27:32,347 --> 01:27:36,427
Speaker 5: Now the pressure's really started to show as Otago well.

1739
01:27:36,547 --> 01:27:38,987
Speaker 2: They turned the tencher nob up and they won it

1740
01:27:39,147 --> 01:27:42,587
Speaker 2: twenty four point fifteen over Southland. Meantime, Taranaki defending the

1741
01:27:42,667 --> 01:27:45,307
Speaker 2: shield against the tunny far for runam of Bookie Neapkins

1742
01:27:45,347 --> 01:27:47,907
Speaker 2: in his fiftieth game. He makes a beautiful break true

1743
01:27:48,067 --> 01:27:50,147
Speaker 2: up to the twenty two. He's got a man inside.

1744
01:27:49,947 --> 01:27:52,507
Speaker 15: That'sosh Jacob and Josh Jacob will score.

1745
01:27:52,947 --> 01:27:57,627
Speaker 2: Beautifully done Jacob Radama Bookie Nepkins just put the foot

1746
01:27:57,667 --> 01:28:00,707
Speaker 2: down here twenty three points to three, the Naki getting

1747
01:28:00,747 --> 01:28:04,187
Speaker 2: home and the Wallabies taking a win from their Lions

1748
01:28:04,307 --> 01:28:09,307
Speaker 2: series and atrocious condition in Sydney twenty two twelve. Hold

1749
01:28:09,307 --> 01:28:10,347
Speaker 2: good over the ball.

1750
01:28:13,067 --> 01:28:14,227
Speaker 14: Still there for Australia.

1751
01:28:14,587 --> 01:28:20,507
Speaker 13: Mcturvick stots take mcdonobuts.

1752
01:28:21,067 --> 01:28:29,747
Speaker 3: Over when it's down to the line. You made a

1753
01:28:29,867 --> 01:28:34,947
Speaker 3: call on Weekend Sport with Jason Paine News.

1754
01:28:34,827 --> 01:28:39,427
Speaker 2: Talksv thirteen minutes past two, keeping eyes on a bit

1755
01:28:39,467 --> 01:28:42,867
Speaker 2: of live sport happening. We just told you about the

1756
01:28:42,907 --> 01:28:46,187
Speaker 2: Warriors women's try that was chalked off. So still six

1757
01:28:46,307 --> 01:28:49,827
Speaker 2: nil to the Cowboys women after twenty minutes at McDonald

1758
01:28:49,907 --> 01:28:53,307
Speaker 2: Jones Stadium in Newcastle, where it is magic rounds for

1759
01:28:53,507 --> 01:28:58,067
Speaker 2: the NRL W and in the NPC. May Have Plenty

1760
01:28:58,187 --> 01:29:01,787
Speaker 2: have opened the scoring against Tasman an early try up

1761
01:29:01,907 --> 01:29:06,667
Speaker 2: at the Toadonga Domain. Caleb Trusk has scored the try.

1762
01:29:06,827 --> 01:29:11,027
Speaker 2: He's been unable to convert said try, So the Bay

1763
01:29:11,067 --> 01:29:14,907
Speaker 2: of Plenty Steamers lead the Tasman Marco by five points

1764
01:29:14,947 --> 01:29:17,347
Speaker 2: to nil. One more game to come. In round one

1765
01:29:17,467 --> 01:29:20,947
Speaker 2: of the Bunnings NPC. It'll see Hawks Bay take on

1766
01:29:21,107 --> 01:29:24,947
Speaker 2: Counties Manico in Napier this afternoon from four thirty five.

1767
01:29:25,027 --> 01:29:27,107
Speaker 2: But as we reported in our Sports news, a blow

1768
01:29:27,787 --> 01:29:29,827
Speaker 2: and a significant one for the All Blacks ahead of

1769
01:29:29,867 --> 01:29:32,187
Speaker 2: the start of the Rugby Championship. Half back Cam Roy

1770
01:29:32,227 --> 01:29:34,627
Speaker 2: Guard will miss the start of the competition with a

1771
01:29:34,707 --> 01:29:38,947
Speaker 2: stress fracture in his foot. He will not travel to Argentina.

1772
01:29:39,267 --> 01:29:43,027
Speaker 2: He'll be assessed in two weeks and a decision made

1773
01:29:43,187 --> 01:29:47,707
Speaker 2: on his involvement in the South African Tests. Liam Napier,

1774
01:29:47,907 --> 01:29:50,067
Speaker 2: lead rugby writer with the New Zealand Herald, I'm sure

1775
01:29:50,067 --> 01:29:52,147
Speaker 2: you weren't expecting to chat to me this afternoon, Liam,

1776
01:29:52,307 --> 01:29:53,627
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you would. I hope to be under

1777
01:29:53,667 --> 01:29:55,787
Speaker 2: better circumstances. How big a blow is this for the

1778
01:29:55,827 --> 01:29:57,747
Speaker 2: All Blacks? No Roy Guard for Argentina.

1779
01:29:58,947 --> 01:29:59,507
Speaker 7: It's always a.

1780
01:29:59,547 --> 01:30:03,627
Speaker 19: Pleasure to he dogs at Tones Piney. But yeah, sad

1781
01:30:03,707 --> 01:30:06,587
Speaker 19: news indeed, isn't it? And a body blo for the

1782
01:30:06,627 --> 01:30:09,387
Speaker 19: All Blacks for sure. I think you can look at

1783
01:30:09,427 --> 01:30:13,467
Speaker 19: guys like Ardie Severe, Cody Taylor, Will Jordan as players

1784
01:30:13,587 --> 01:30:17,747
Speaker 19: that the All Blacks would most least like you know

1785
01:30:18,107 --> 01:30:21,747
Speaker 19: not not want to lose most influential players in their team,

1786
01:30:21,787 --> 01:30:25,387
Speaker 19: and Can Rogan is right up there. He has been

1787
01:30:25,507 --> 01:30:28,587
Speaker 19: hugely influential since coming back. It's easy to forget he's

1788
01:30:28,627 --> 01:30:31,707
Speaker 19: only played a handful of tests, but his sniping game

1789
01:30:32,987 --> 01:30:36,827
Speaker 19: around the fringes, his booming boots has just been a

1790
01:30:36,907 --> 01:30:39,347
Speaker 19: real fault crumb for the All Blacks and even in

1791
01:30:39,627 --> 01:30:42,787
Speaker 19: a patchy Frenk series at times, he was one of

1792
01:30:42,827 --> 01:30:44,907
Speaker 19: the leading lights in the two tests that he played.

1793
01:30:44,987 --> 01:30:47,667
Speaker 19: So yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see

1794
01:30:48,267 --> 01:30:51,187
Speaker 19: who the All Blacks turned to. I think obviously courses

1795
01:30:51,187 --> 01:30:53,827
Speaker 19: of artima will come in to start, but the depth

1796
01:30:54,587 --> 01:30:57,667
Speaker 19: and the New Zealand nine socks is not exactly flush

1797
01:30:57,707 --> 01:30:58,147
Speaker 19: at the moment.

1798
01:30:58,627 --> 01:31:01,987
Speaker 2: It certainly isn't because this is exacerbated by the fact

1799
01:31:02,027 --> 01:31:05,747
Speaker 2: that Noah Hotham is currently injured with a high ankle sprains.

1800
01:31:05,787 --> 01:31:08,947
Speaker 2: He probably play any of the Rugby Championship, So no

1801
01:31:09,147 --> 01:31:11,627
Speaker 2: Roy Guard, no hothe them, So two of the three

1802
01:31:11,707 --> 01:31:15,227
Speaker 2: half backs from the French series not there as you say.

1803
01:31:15,867 --> 01:31:17,987
Speaker 2: For like, Christy has been withdrawn from the Tasman game

1804
01:31:18,027 --> 01:31:20,787
Speaker 2: this afternoon. I thought that was because of this impending news,

1805
01:31:21,027 --> 01:31:23,107
Speaker 2: but by the sounds of things. He's got a shoulder injury.

1806
01:31:23,187 --> 01:31:25,187
Speaker 2: You're a little niggle as well. So have we got

1807
01:31:25,227 --> 01:31:26,067
Speaker 2: the half backs left?

1808
01:31:27,307 --> 01:31:30,627
Speaker 19: Well, I'm a half fit myself, Piney, so I could.

1809
01:31:32,267 --> 01:31:35,627
Speaker 19: I'm a long, long, long way from the test scene though,

1810
01:31:35,667 --> 01:31:39,947
Speaker 19: but yeah, it is desperate times in a relative sense.

1811
01:31:40,267 --> 01:31:42,547
Speaker 19: I think I would imagine from the Christie will be

1812
01:31:42,667 --> 01:31:45,107
Speaker 19: named in the squads because he's been there, done that.

1813
01:31:45,867 --> 01:31:49,707
Speaker 19: There's a few whispers around Newcastle Falcons chasing his services

1814
01:31:49,827 --> 01:31:53,867
Speaker 19: and perhaps maybe that ties into him, you know, going

1815
01:31:53,907 --> 01:31:56,507
Speaker 19: back up north and potentially playing for Scotland where he's born.

1816
01:31:56,627 --> 01:32:00,307
Speaker 19: But I expect him to be named in this Rugby

1817
01:32:00,387 --> 01:32:04,947
Speaker 19: Championship squads. And then you're looking at guys like Kyle Preston.

1818
01:32:05,387 --> 01:32:07,867
Speaker 19: I'm a big fan of his, you know, of course

1819
01:32:07,907 --> 01:32:13,347
Speaker 19: Wellington halfback, but you know Traders went to the Crusaders

1820
01:32:13,387 --> 01:32:17,547
Speaker 19: and scored four tries in the opening Super Rugby match

1821
01:32:17,667 --> 01:32:19,707
Speaker 19: this year and really sort of made his mark early

1822
01:32:19,787 --> 01:32:22,787
Speaker 19: before Hope and return. So I like what he offers.

1823
01:32:23,147 --> 01:32:26,307
Speaker 19: And then you're looking at others like fal Fuckatava who

1824
01:32:26,387 --> 01:32:28,107
Speaker 19: has been there but not for a couple of years

1825
01:32:28,147 --> 01:32:30,987
Speaker 19: and hasn't been in the mix since Scott Robertson took over,

1826
01:32:31,227 --> 01:32:35,547
Speaker 19: and others like an Xavier Rowe who brings quite a

1827
01:32:35,627 --> 01:32:39,547
Speaker 19: subtle passing game. He's very creative both with his kicking

1828
01:32:39,627 --> 01:32:42,827
Speaker 19: game as well around the fringes. So I think that's

1829
01:32:42,867 --> 01:32:45,267
Speaker 19: where the All Blacks will be looking and very interesting

1830
01:32:45,347 --> 01:32:48,147
Speaker 19: to see who makes that mix when they announce it tomorrow.

1831
01:32:48,627 --> 01:32:51,147
Speaker 2: Absolutely it will be. They'll definitely take three, won't they.

1832
01:32:51,227 --> 01:32:51,427
Speaker 3: They'll.

1833
01:32:51,987 --> 01:32:54,347
Speaker 2: It's it's pretty much a standard. There'll be three half

1834
01:32:54,427 --> 01:33:00,107
Speaker 2: backs named tomorrow, so Roy, sorry, Ratama, probably Christy and

1835
01:33:00,267 --> 01:33:01,907
Speaker 2: one another. They'll name three, won't they.

1836
01:33:02,867 --> 01:33:04,827
Speaker 19: They will was the thirty six man squad, so that

1837
01:33:04,947 --> 01:33:07,587
Speaker 19: leaves plenty of room for half backs, three hookers, and

1838
01:33:07,627 --> 01:33:11,827
Speaker 19: it is a very specialized position. You could, you know,

1839
01:33:11,947 --> 01:33:15,347
Speaker 19: look at a guy like Leroy Carter perhaps who can

1840
01:33:15,387 --> 01:33:18,867
Speaker 19: play wing and halfback, or Damian McKenzie's even you know,

1841
01:33:19,027 --> 01:33:23,227
Speaker 19: covered half back off the bench in his career. But

1842
01:33:23,627 --> 01:33:26,227
Speaker 19: it's getting a bit cute for Test rugby if you're

1843
01:33:26,227 --> 01:33:29,627
Speaker 19: thinking about going back to putting guys like Jerome Kino

1844
01:33:29,667 --> 01:33:32,587
Speaker 19: at Locke when the All Black's lost to Ireland in Dublin,

1845
01:33:32,867 --> 01:33:36,427
Speaker 19: and you know, square pegs, round holes, things that haven't

1846
01:33:36,427 --> 01:33:40,267
Speaker 19: been done, haven't been tried before. It's the elite arena

1847
01:33:40,827 --> 01:33:43,467
Speaker 19: you can come unstuck, so I think they will look

1848
01:33:43,507 --> 01:33:45,067
Speaker 19: to include three specialists there.

1849
01:33:45,547 --> 01:33:47,587
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, thanks Liam, thanks for taking our call

1850
01:33:47,627 --> 01:33:50,027
Speaker 2: at short notice off the back of this breaking news.

1851
01:33:50,067 --> 01:33:52,067
Speaker 2: We'll wait to see tomorrow what the All Black selectors do,

1852
01:33:52,187 --> 01:33:55,427
Speaker 2: but it's a conundrum for them. Always appreciate you joining.

1853
01:33:55,227 --> 01:33:56,867
Speaker 7: Us, mate, it's funny.

1854
01:33:57,267 --> 01:33:59,107
Speaker 2: Good on you, Liam Nape. You read him at enzid

1855
01:33:59,107 --> 01:34:01,107
Speaker 2: Herald dot co dot nz. He's actually got a piece

1856
01:34:01,187 --> 01:34:04,027
Speaker 2: up at the moment regarding the All Black squad to

1857
01:34:04,067 --> 01:34:06,227
Speaker 2: be named tomorrow. This was before the roy Guard news,

1858
01:34:06,707 --> 01:34:09,267
Speaker 2: so we'll have an update on that, no doubt. But

1859
01:34:09,747 --> 01:34:11,267
Speaker 2: you know who else will be named in that thirty

1860
01:34:11,307 --> 01:34:13,867
Speaker 2: six man squad it has announced tomorrow. We'll have full

1861
01:34:13,907 --> 01:34:16,187
Speaker 2: coverage of all of that for you on newstalks 'db

1862
01:34:16,467 --> 01:34:20,307
Speaker 2: of course where the time currently is coming up nineteen

1863
01:34:20,427 --> 01:34:23,507
Speaker 2: past two. Just checking on the Live Sports still five

1864
01:34:23,667 --> 01:34:27,507
Speaker 2: nilt in Todonga they have plenty over Tasman and still

1865
01:34:27,627 --> 01:34:30,947
Speaker 2: six nil the North Queensland Cowboys over the Warriors women

1866
01:34:31,267 --> 01:34:34,227
Speaker 2: in Newcastle. Approaching the end of the first half there

1867
01:34:34,707 --> 01:34:36,467
Speaker 2: when we take or when we come back, we'll take

1868
01:34:36,467 --> 01:34:38,307
Speaker 2: a break. When we come back, it'll be to football

1869
01:34:38,627 --> 01:34:42,627
Speaker 2: with the Wellington Phoenix women, a new coach and a

1870
01:34:42,707 --> 01:34:44,547
Speaker 2: couple of new players. This week we'll cover that or

1871
01:34:44,627 --> 01:34:45,227
Speaker 2: for you after.

1872
01:34:45,147 --> 01:34:49,467
Speaker 1: This, it's more than just a game. Weekend Sport with

1873
01:34:49,667 --> 01:34:53,347
Speaker 1: Jason Fine and GJ. Garnomes, New Zealand's.

1874
01:34:52,947 --> 01:34:55,107
Speaker 3: Most trusted home builder, News talks edb.

1875
01:34:55,867 --> 01:35:00,107
Speaker 2: It's two twenty two. One of football's worst kept secrets.

1876
01:35:00,147 --> 01:35:03,627
Speaker 2: Confirmed on Wednesday, Bev Priestman will take charge of the

1877
01:35:03,667 --> 01:35:05,987
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix women's team for the next two A leagu

1878
01:35:06,027 --> 01:35:09,707
Speaker 2: FOOTBA seasons. The announcement came as her one year ban

1879
01:35:09,947 --> 01:35:13,947
Speaker 2: from any football related activity ended that following her role

1880
01:35:14,067 --> 01:35:17,747
Speaker 2: in Canada's drone use at last year's Paris Olympics, where

1881
01:35:17,787 --> 01:35:21,347
Speaker 2: they were caught spying on a football fern's training session.

1882
01:35:21,667 --> 01:35:25,347
Speaker 2: Beef Prestman comes though with extensive top flight experience. She

1883
01:35:25,507 --> 01:35:28,667
Speaker 2: led the Canadian team to Olympic gold in twenty twenty one.

1884
01:35:29,147 --> 01:35:31,907
Speaker 2: She was assistant coach when they got bronze and rio

1885
01:35:32,067 --> 01:35:36,027
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. She was England's assistant coach when they

1886
01:35:36,387 --> 01:35:39,587
Speaker 2: made the semi finals at the twenty nineteen FIFA Women's

1887
01:35:39,627 --> 01:35:43,427
Speaker 2: World Cup, and she's twice been shortlisted for the FIFA's

1888
01:35:44,387 --> 01:35:47,987
Speaker 2: Award for Best Women's Coach. Without doubt, one of the

1889
01:35:48,147 --> 01:35:52,707
Speaker 2: most credentialed coaches in women's A League history. Also this week,

1890
01:35:53,027 --> 01:35:57,787
Speaker 2: Football fern CJ. Bott was confirmed as the Phoenix women's

1891
01:35:57,867 --> 01:35:59,907
Speaker 2: latest signing. More from her in a moment but I

1892
01:35:59,947 --> 01:36:04,107
Speaker 2: spoke after the announcement of Beef Pressman's appointment with Wellington

1893
01:36:04,147 --> 01:36:07,827
Speaker 2: Phoenix Director of Football Sewn Gel and I asked, first

1894
01:36:07,827 --> 01:36:10,067
Speaker 2: of all, how pleased he was to secure a coach

1895
01:36:10,587 --> 01:36:12,547
Speaker 2: of Bev Priestman's pedigree.

1896
01:36:13,147 --> 01:36:15,267
Speaker 14: Yeah, look, we're absolutely thrilled.

1897
01:36:16,707 --> 01:36:18,747
Speaker 22: If you'd said to me six months ago Bev Price

1898
01:36:18,867 --> 01:36:20,467
Speaker 22: been coaching the one in Phoenix, I would have told

1899
01:36:20,467 --> 01:36:24,747
Speaker 22: you're an idiot. And it's yeah, it's incredible how it's

1900
01:36:24,747 --> 01:36:26,427
Speaker 22: all sort of worked out. I mean, obviously Emma was

1901
01:36:26,467 --> 01:36:31,587
Speaker 22: appointed as the Academy director, and you know, over time

1902
01:36:31,987 --> 01:36:34,227
Speaker 22: it sort of became apparent that it might become an option.

1903
01:36:34,987 --> 01:36:36,947
Speaker 22: And you know, once we sort of sat and we

1904
01:36:37,227 --> 01:36:39,907
Speaker 22: had a couple of coffees and you get to sort

1905
01:36:39,907 --> 01:36:42,507
Speaker 22: of understand where she was at. You know, obviously it's

1906
01:36:42,587 --> 01:36:44,387
Speaker 22: not just about the football at the moment too, there's

1907
01:36:44,387 --> 01:36:46,187
Speaker 22: a lot of stuff with the family and everything like that,

1908
01:36:46,387 --> 01:36:47,987
Speaker 22: so you know, it just sort of became more and

1909
01:36:48,067 --> 01:36:51,867
Speaker 22: more reality. And to have a coach of her international

1910
01:36:51,947 --> 01:36:55,347
Speaker 22: experience a at the way into Phoenix and b in

1911
01:36:55,387 --> 01:36:58,067
Speaker 22: the league is great, you know, and it's also great

1912
01:36:58,107 --> 01:37:00,267
Speaker 22: for the for the woman's game here in New Zealand.

1913
01:37:00,307 --> 01:37:01,627
Speaker 2: Now that she is on board or you know what

1914
01:37:01,787 --> 01:37:03,667
Speaker 2: it's been. It's obviously been conferring for a little while

1915
01:37:03,747 --> 01:37:06,907
Speaker 2: announced during the week. What have you seen from her?

1916
01:37:07,027 --> 01:37:09,227
Speaker 2: Has she has she been what you expected in terms

1917
01:37:09,267 --> 01:37:12,587
Speaker 2: of how she's preparing for her first campaign as the

1918
01:37:12,627 --> 01:37:13,227
Speaker 2: women's coach.

1919
01:37:13,667 --> 01:37:15,947
Speaker 22: Yeah, look, even in the early conversations, you know what

1920
01:37:16,107 --> 01:37:20,907
Speaker 22: really came through as a really thoughtful coach. You know,

1921
01:37:21,027 --> 01:37:26,147
Speaker 22: obviously really high experience, an energy and a passion and

1922
01:37:26,387 --> 01:37:29,867
Speaker 22: a professionalism, but also that winning mentality and that winning

1923
01:37:29,987 --> 01:37:33,227
Speaker 22: sort of desire came through really strong. And you know

1924
01:37:33,307 --> 01:37:35,027
Speaker 22: we've seen that over the last couple of days with

1925
01:37:35,147 --> 01:37:37,947
Speaker 22: her in the office and yeah, just really thrilled that

1926
01:37:37,987 --> 01:37:39,867
Speaker 22: we're going to have someone leading the program.

1927
01:37:40,467 --> 01:37:43,507
Speaker 2: And today you've unveiled c J bid, a fifty cap

1928
01:37:43,547 --> 01:37:46,907
Speaker 2: football furnace. The latest acquisition it's an impressive roster that's

1929
01:37:46,947 --> 01:37:49,827
Speaker 2: being built. How optimistic do you feel about the women's

1930
01:37:50,147 --> 01:37:50,947
Speaker 2: program at the moment.

1931
01:37:51,347 --> 01:37:52,627
Speaker 14: Yeah, look, we're really excited.

1932
01:37:53,467 --> 01:37:55,947
Speaker 22: You know, obviously there is there is a level of

1933
01:37:55,947 --> 01:37:57,667
Speaker 22: pressure that's going to go on that program. You know,

1934
01:37:57,827 --> 01:38:01,307
Speaker 22: the investment that the owners have put into it, you know,

1935
01:38:01,387 --> 01:38:03,267
Speaker 22: the facilities, obviously, the squad.

1936
01:38:03,827 --> 01:38:06,507
Speaker 14: A coach like that, you don't do all that to

1937
01:38:07,067 --> 01:38:09,747
Speaker 14: want to be outside the top six or even go higher.

1938
01:38:10,347 --> 01:38:12,187
Speaker 14: So you know there is a there is a high

1939
01:38:12,187 --> 01:38:13,427
Speaker 14: expectation on that program.

1940
01:38:14,227 --> 01:38:16,067
Speaker 22: But we think we're bringing a caliber of player and

1941
01:38:16,067 --> 01:38:18,027
Speaker 22: obviously a color of coach that can cope with that

1942
01:38:18,147 --> 01:38:20,587
Speaker 22: pressure and hopefully going to deliver something that hasn't been

1943
01:38:20,627 --> 01:38:21,627
Speaker 22: done here at the club before.

1944
01:38:22,267 --> 01:38:25,507
Speaker 2: Is there some demonstrator shift and focus away from the

1945
01:38:25,587 --> 01:38:27,067
Speaker 2: men to the women at the Phoenix?

1946
01:38:27,947 --> 01:38:29,787
Speaker 22: No, I don't think it's a shift away from the men.

1947
01:38:29,867 --> 01:38:32,187
Speaker 22: I think what we're seeing now is the evolution of

1948
01:38:32,187 --> 01:38:34,107
Speaker 22: the football club. You know, we've had the only women's

1949
01:38:34,147 --> 01:38:36,747
Speaker 22: program in place for this will be the fifth season,

1950
01:38:37,827 --> 01:38:39,747
Speaker 22: you know, first couple of seasons, yeah, it was in

1951
01:38:39,827 --> 01:38:42,667
Speaker 22: conjunction of New Zealm Football obviously, and the last couple

1952
01:38:42,707 --> 01:38:45,267
Speaker 22: of seasons, we've taken it over, We've introduced visa players,

1953
01:38:45,307 --> 01:38:47,187
Speaker 22: and you sort of, I guess there's a club.

1954
01:38:47,227 --> 01:38:48,987
Speaker 14: We're just try it. We're not trying.

1955
01:38:49,027 --> 01:38:50,867
Speaker 22: We had to get to grips with what it meant

1956
01:38:50,867 --> 01:38:52,827
Speaker 22: to have an Alien women's program, you know, talk to

1957
01:38:52,907 --> 01:38:56,747
Speaker 22: have an Alien women's program. So yeah, it's definitely not

1958
01:38:57,187 --> 01:38:59,387
Speaker 22: one or the other. You know, the club is so

1959
01:38:59,547 --> 01:39:02,107
Speaker 22: big now compared to what I started here, and we

1960
01:39:02,187 --> 01:39:04,267
Speaker 22: had one men's team in a football school of excellence.

1961
01:39:04,547 --> 01:39:06,107
Speaker 22: You know, we've now got the ALI women's program, the

1962
01:39:06,427 --> 01:39:09,387
Speaker 22: men's program, and eight teams in the academy, three girls teams,

1963
01:39:09,427 --> 01:39:12,307
Speaker 22: five boys teams. So every part of that is critical

1964
01:39:12,387 --> 01:39:14,947
Speaker 22: to the football club. And you know, there's just as

1965
01:39:15,027 --> 01:39:17,467
Speaker 22: much the expectation on the ALI men's program to get

1966
01:39:17,507 --> 01:39:19,187
Speaker 22: top six this year as there is on the woman's

1967
01:39:19,187 --> 01:39:22,227
Speaker 22: to get top six. So yeah, definitely not one or

1968
01:39:22,227 --> 01:39:24,867
Speaker 22: the other. But I think what we are seeing is

1969
01:39:26,387 --> 01:39:29,747
Speaker 22: there's rather than just going spending money on the ALI

1970
01:39:29,867 --> 01:39:32,547
Speaker 22: men's program, put that investment into the ALI women's program

1971
01:39:32,587 --> 01:39:34,547
Speaker 22: and try and bring that up to that level.

1972
01:39:35,267 --> 01:39:37,227
Speaker 2: So still one import spot I think available in the

1973
01:39:37,227 --> 01:39:38,627
Speaker 2: women and I think one and the men as well

1974
01:39:38,867 --> 01:39:40,147
Speaker 2: you're keen to fill those two spots.

1975
01:39:40,307 --> 01:39:44,547
Speaker 22: Yeah, one percent. Well, definitely, we're in discussions at the

1976
01:39:44,587 --> 01:39:50,467
Speaker 22: moment with a woman's visa and things are looking recently

1977
01:39:50,507 --> 01:39:53,867
Speaker 22: positive there, but it relies on a couple of other

1978
01:39:53,907 --> 01:39:56,987
Speaker 22: things to happen in a chain. So you know, they

1979
01:39:56,987 --> 01:39:58,867
Speaker 22: could drop hopefully in the next couple of days, which

1980
01:39:58,907 --> 01:40:01,227
Speaker 22: would be really excited about, and we'll really sort of

1981
01:40:01,467 --> 01:40:05,547
Speaker 22: finish off the one part of the football pitch for

1982
01:40:05,587 --> 01:40:08,507
Speaker 22: the Ali woman and in the mean space, we will

1983
01:40:08,547 --> 01:40:12,027
Speaker 22: definitely utilize that. It has been a wrestle at the

1984
01:40:12,067 --> 01:40:14,267
Speaker 22: moment to sort of figure out what's the best use

1985
01:40:14,307 --> 01:40:17,707
Speaker 22: of that last visa spot. You know, there's obviously the

1986
01:40:17,867 --> 01:40:21,227
Speaker 22: defense that we need to bring some experience into and

1987
01:40:21,307 --> 01:40:24,187
Speaker 22: some quality into, but there's also another attacking option we

1988
01:40:24,267 --> 01:40:26,827
Speaker 22: need to look at. So you know, we're taking our

1989
01:40:26,867 --> 01:40:30,667
Speaker 22: time to find the right balance for that, and that

1990
01:40:30,827 --> 01:40:33,587
Speaker 22: really is dictated by what's the quality of the local

1991
01:40:33,667 --> 01:40:36,067
Speaker 22: market and where that's best suited, and then you know,

1992
01:40:36,227 --> 01:40:38,427
Speaker 22: whatever you get there will then dictate where you use

1993
01:40:38,467 --> 01:40:38,867
Speaker 22: the visa.

1994
01:40:39,507 --> 01:40:43,907
Speaker 2: So yeah, so basically, yeah, if you're sign an overseas defender,

1995
01:40:43,947 --> 01:40:48,627
Speaker 2: you're looking for a local attacker and vice versa. Yeah,

1996
01:40:48,667 --> 01:40:51,307
Speaker 2: without wanting to find out which way you're going to go,

1997
01:40:51,507 --> 01:40:53,427
Speaker 2: do you feel like there is the local cover in

1998
01:40:53,547 --> 01:40:56,067
Speaker 2: both positions depending on which way you do go with.

1999
01:40:56,107 --> 01:40:58,427
Speaker 22: The import look, I think at the moment it's probably

2000
01:40:58,547 --> 01:41:03,627
Speaker 22: safe to say there are probably better options in the

2001
01:41:04,347 --> 01:41:06,867
Speaker 22: attacking space than there are in the senate space. At

2002
01:41:06,867 --> 01:41:09,987
Speaker 22: the moment, the local center back market is pretty dry.

2003
01:41:10,547 --> 01:41:12,587
Speaker 22: We had a couple of leads we thought we might

2004
01:41:12,667 --> 01:41:14,867
Speaker 22: get close on one. Again, those were all part of

2005
01:41:14,907 --> 01:41:16,947
Speaker 22: a chain of events that needed to happen, which didn't

2006
01:41:16,987 --> 01:41:19,267
Speaker 22: happen before a particular window shut around the world. So

2007
01:41:19,867 --> 01:41:23,347
Speaker 22: I think it's looking more and more like you know,

2008
01:41:23,467 --> 01:41:26,027
Speaker 22: the visa go center back and bring some attacking options

2009
01:41:26,107 --> 01:41:28,347
Speaker 22: and to go around some quality that we have here.

2010
01:41:28,387 --> 01:41:30,827
Speaker 22: You know, you've still got Luke brook Smith who's showing

2011
01:41:30,867 --> 01:41:33,547
Speaker 22: some good signs. Gap both had excellent games the other night.

2012
01:41:33,547 --> 01:41:35,307
Speaker 22: I thought Head was very very good the other night.

2013
01:41:35,467 --> 01:41:38,227
Speaker 22: Asa arrives into and on Sunday, you know, hopefully we

2014
01:41:38,267 --> 01:41:39,787
Speaker 22: get him on the pitch for the next Cup game,

2015
01:41:39,867 --> 01:41:42,747
Speaker 22: and you know there is there is some quality there.

2016
01:41:43,027 --> 01:41:45,227
Speaker 22: Carlo almi Into again another one you know can play

2017
01:41:45,267 --> 01:41:46,787
Speaker 22: as the ten. It's probably been brought more and for

2018
01:41:46,867 --> 01:41:48,907
Speaker 22: as a wing back, but can play in that ten spot.

2019
01:41:49,027 --> 01:41:52,187
Speaker 22: So right now it's probably makes more sense and more

2020
01:41:52,227 --> 01:41:54,467
Speaker 22: pragmatic to look at the center back as a visa.

2021
01:41:54,747 --> 01:41:57,107
Speaker 2: And good a couple of weeks for the men's team too,

2022
01:41:57,227 --> 01:41:58,907
Speaker 2: went over wreck them in front of a big crowd

2023
01:41:58,907 --> 01:42:02,027
Speaker 2: at Sky Stadium. You go to Perth and win eight

2024
01:42:02,027 --> 01:42:04,187
Speaker 2: to seven on penalties over there to advance in the

2025
01:42:04,627 --> 01:42:07,307
Speaker 2: Australia Cup. So is there a up of confidence, bit

2026
01:42:07,307 --> 01:42:08,947
Speaker 2: of momentum building in the men's side right now.

2027
01:42:09,547 --> 01:42:13,307
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's you know, there was obviously a lot that

2028
01:42:13,427 --> 01:42:16,267
Speaker 22: went on last season and a lot of discussion and

2029
01:42:16,307 --> 01:42:17,827
Speaker 22: debate at the end of it. You know, there's a

2030
01:42:17,827 --> 01:42:19,507
Speaker 22: lot of pressure is come on on the on the

2031
01:42:19,547 --> 01:42:22,627
Speaker 22: ailing men's side, and I think it's really pleasing to see,

2032
01:42:23,547 --> 01:42:26,547
Speaker 22: you know, obviously get a fantastic result against Rexham. You know,

2033
01:42:26,627 --> 01:42:28,067
Speaker 22: the first half team that were made me able to

2034
01:42:28,067 --> 01:42:30,307
Speaker 22: get least a clean sheet and really competitive, so that

2035
01:42:30,467 --> 01:42:33,107
Speaker 22: was good to see. Yeah, excellent for the Academy boys

2036
01:42:33,147 --> 01:42:35,507
Speaker 22: to come on and actually turn it into a result

2037
01:42:35,587 --> 01:42:38,827
Speaker 22: which is really pleasing. And then you know the trip

2038
01:42:38,907 --> 01:42:41,267
Speaker 22: to Perth is always a tough one. And to do

2039
01:42:41,387 --> 01:42:45,787
Speaker 22: that with you know, largely academy graduates plus our three

2040
01:42:45,907 --> 01:42:48,827
Speaker 22: Visa players and Pola coming back in was phenomenal. And

2041
01:42:48,827 --> 01:42:51,787
Speaker 22: I thought the character of the boys to do that

2042
01:42:51,987 --> 01:42:55,707
Speaker 22: early in the preseason, beyond a plane to Perth to

2043
01:42:56,267 --> 01:42:58,067
Speaker 22: play one hundred and twenty minutes, you know, have the

2044
01:42:58,147 --> 01:43:00,147
Speaker 22: weather conditions that they were a stop in the game,

2045
01:43:00,267 --> 01:43:02,667
Speaker 22: and then to step up and finish it off and

2046
01:43:02,707 --> 01:43:05,147
Speaker 22: pens with some very good pens from some very young

2047
01:43:05,187 --> 01:43:08,507
Speaker 22: players was really So there's some good signs. You know,

2048
01:43:08,587 --> 01:43:10,107
Speaker 22: none of us want to get carried away too early

2049
01:43:10,107 --> 01:43:13,027
Speaker 22: because it is early doors, it is preseason, but you know,

2050
01:43:13,147 --> 01:43:16,507
Speaker 22: the signs are positive that this group has something about them.

2051
01:43:17,307 --> 01:43:19,147
Speaker 22: They've come in, they're working hard. You know, we still

2052
01:43:19,187 --> 01:43:21,627
Speaker 22: have Roofs and pay need to bring back into the

2053
01:43:21,707 --> 01:43:24,827
Speaker 22: mix as well. You know, Corbyn Pipe still will return

2054
01:43:24,907 --> 01:43:26,787
Speaker 22: as well. So you know, it is it is pleasing

2055
01:43:26,867 --> 01:43:28,747
Speaker 22: to see that we're getting those results so far with

2056
01:43:29,747 --> 01:43:32,587
Speaker 22: a younger group and the visa players from last year,

2057
01:43:32,947 --> 01:43:34,827
Speaker 22: and you know, now as we bring more back into it,

2058
01:43:34,987 --> 01:43:36,227
Speaker 22: you know, hopefully we can push on.

2059
01:43:36,867 --> 01:43:38,347
Speaker 2: Just back to Bev, there was always going to be

2060
01:43:38,827 --> 01:43:41,467
Speaker 2: a bit of noise around her appointment, given her twelve

2061
01:43:41,547 --> 01:43:43,627
Speaker 2: month band and the circumstances behind it, did you have

2062
01:43:43,667 --> 01:43:45,787
Speaker 2: to factor that in when you made the decision to

2063
01:43:45,867 --> 01:43:46,187
Speaker 2: hire her.

2064
01:43:48,307 --> 01:43:51,587
Speaker 22: Not really, I mean it was it was it was

2065
01:43:51,667 --> 01:43:53,827
Speaker 22: just too good of opportunity not to not to look

2066
01:43:53,867 --> 01:43:56,747
Speaker 22: at right. You know, we definitely, we definitely spoke with

2067
01:43:56,827 --> 01:43:58,507
Speaker 22: her about what we would have gone on, and she

2068
01:43:58,587 --> 01:44:00,947
Speaker 22: obviously gave her a side of what went on, and

2069
01:44:01,587 --> 01:44:03,827
Speaker 22: you know, you hear other things as well, and as

2070
01:44:04,307 --> 01:44:06,707
Speaker 22: Rob alludes to, you know, we're completely comfortable who she

2071
01:44:06,867 --> 01:44:10,747
Speaker 22: is and who she was. People make mistakes, you know,

2072
01:44:10,827 --> 01:44:12,907
Speaker 22: we've had other people make mistakes within the club. It

2073
01:44:13,027 --> 01:44:14,747
Speaker 22: was only a few years back we had the incident

2074
01:44:15,227 --> 01:44:17,907
Speaker 22: through COVID with Painey and Oli Sail, you know, and

2075
01:44:18,307 --> 01:44:20,547
Speaker 22: those guys. We showed faith in them and you know

2076
01:44:20,627 --> 01:44:23,227
Speaker 22: they did their penance for what they've done and you

2077
01:44:23,307 --> 01:44:25,307
Speaker 22: know they've both kicked on to be excellent plays in

2078
01:44:25,347 --> 01:44:29,947
Speaker 22: the A League. So everyone deserves the chance. And you

2079
01:44:29,987 --> 01:44:33,667
Speaker 22: know Bev's character as such that you know she's not

2080
01:44:33,747 --> 01:44:36,227
Speaker 22: a repeat offender. You know she's a good person, she's

2081
01:44:36,267 --> 01:44:38,907
Speaker 22: a good character. She's a phenomenal football coach and to

2082
01:44:38,987 --> 01:44:40,387
Speaker 22: have that at the club as a no brainer.

2083
01:44:40,587 --> 01:44:43,187
Speaker 2: That is a Sean Gill, director of football at Wellington Phoenix,

2084
01:44:43,227 --> 01:44:45,747
Speaker 2: talking about the recruitment of Bev Priestman as women's coach

2085
01:44:45,827 --> 01:44:48,667
Speaker 2: and some other football matters too, including the recruitment of

2086
01:44:48,747 --> 01:44:52,907
Speaker 2: c J Bott, fifty cap football Ferns defender, who was

2087
01:44:53,027 --> 01:44:56,907
Speaker 2: confirmed as the squad's latest acquisition this week as well.

2088
01:44:56,907 --> 01:44:58,907
Speaker 2: I spoke to her to find out how this came about.

2089
01:44:59,187 --> 01:45:01,587
Speaker 23: I mean it started off probably a year ago with

2090
01:45:01,707 --> 01:45:04,187
Speaker 23: a kind of the idea I suppose was floated floated

2091
01:45:04,187 --> 01:45:06,267
Speaker 23: around and I wasn't so sure, but I think after

2092
01:45:06,427 --> 01:45:09,547
Speaker 23: having a few conversations with the staff here at the club,

2093
01:45:09,627 --> 01:45:12,707
Speaker 23: you could really see the ambition, the investment in the team,

2094
01:45:12,907 --> 01:45:15,587
Speaker 23: and so from that point of view it felt right.

2095
01:45:15,667 --> 01:45:17,787
Speaker 23: And then obviously from a personal point of view as well,

2096
01:45:18,187 --> 01:45:20,867
Speaker 23: coming home it's a pretty special special thing for me.

2097
01:45:21,027 --> 01:45:23,027
Speaker 23: So yeah, it all just kind of fit in really

2098
01:45:23,107 --> 01:45:24,547
Speaker 23: nicely and felt like the right time.

2099
01:45:25,107 --> 01:45:26,907
Speaker 2: He had four seasons at Lester. How do you look

2100
01:45:26,947 --> 01:45:27,547
Speaker 2: back on that time.

2101
01:45:28,147 --> 01:45:30,067
Speaker 24: Yeah, my four seasons at Leaster was incredible.

2102
01:45:30,107 --> 01:45:31,987
Speaker 23: Obviously there are a lot of ups and downs as well,

2103
01:45:33,147 --> 01:45:37,507
Speaker 23: but it was a really incredible experience, really incredible time

2104
01:45:37,867 --> 01:45:42,027
Speaker 23: I learned such valuable lessons as a footballer, especially as

2105
01:45:42,027 --> 01:45:44,547
Speaker 23: a defender playing in that league, and I really feel

2106
01:45:44,587 --> 01:45:47,427
Speaker 23: like I've gone from strength to strength there and I've

2107
01:45:47,467 --> 01:45:49,027
Speaker 23: got a lot to bring back to this club as well.

2108
01:45:49,467 --> 01:45:51,427
Speaker 2: How different are you as a footballer from the one

2109
01:45:51,467 --> 01:45:54,947
Speaker 2: who first left Wellington all those years ago? You know,

2110
01:45:55,067 --> 01:45:57,867
Speaker 2: to seek your footballing, you know, fortune and fame.

2111
01:45:58,427 --> 01:46:00,027
Speaker 23: Some people might disagree, but I think I'm a lot

2112
01:46:00,107 --> 01:46:03,387
Speaker 23: calmer now. I've learned a lot more control and I've

2113
01:46:03,427 --> 01:46:05,627
Speaker 23: learned a lot more about the game as well. Playing

2114
01:46:05,667 --> 01:46:08,987
Speaker 23: in a lot of different countries it's been really beneficial,

2115
01:46:09,027 --> 01:46:11,187
Speaker 23: I guess, to see the game from a lot of

2116
01:46:11,227 --> 01:46:14,427
Speaker 23: different perspectives. Every country and every team plays a bit different,

2117
01:46:14,507 --> 01:46:17,387
Speaker 23: so that's been really crucial. And yeah, I've just I

2118
01:46:17,467 --> 01:46:20,547
Speaker 23: guess I've refined refined since leaving Wellington.

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Speaker 2: And this is a bit of a full circle moment.

2120
01:46:23,267 --> 01:46:25,467
Speaker 2: You grew up in Wellington and you're back here now.

2121
01:46:26,187 --> 01:46:29,467
Speaker 2: You know, when you were growing up as a young player,

2122
01:46:29,867 --> 01:46:31,547
Speaker 2: this sort of thing wasn't available, right, There was no

2123
01:46:32,187 --> 01:46:34,547
Speaker 2: professional women's team in your own country. That's why you

2124
01:46:34,627 --> 01:46:36,947
Speaker 2: had to go. So does this feel a bit full

2125
01:46:36,987 --> 01:46:37,467
Speaker 2: circle to you?

2126
01:46:37,707 --> 01:46:38,827
Speaker 24: Yeah? It absolutely does.

2127
01:46:39,147 --> 01:46:41,867
Speaker 23: Like you say, there wasn't this kind of opportunity growing up,

2128
01:46:41,907 --> 01:46:43,707
Speaker 23: and to be perfectly honest, I didn't even think I'd

2129
01:46:43,747 --> 01:46:45,947
Speaker 23: ever be able to be a professional footballer. So to

2130
01:46:46,027 --> 01:46:48,787
Speaker 23: have the opportunities I've had overseas is really incredible. But

2131
01:46:48,907 --> 01:46:51,707
Speaker 23: to be able to come back to a place like

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01:46:51,787 --> 01:46:54,707
Speaker 23: Wellington and facilities like we've got here at the end

2133
01:46:54,747 --> 01:46:58,707
Speaker 23: zcis it's pretty incredible. I feel very lucky and yeah,

2134
01:46:58,827 --> 01:47:01,827
Speaker 23: just really grateful that we've had this kind of investment

2135
01:47:01,867 --> 01:47:03,107
Speaker 23: and that this opportunity is here.

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01:47:03,067 --> 01:47:05,027
Speaker 2: Now and you'll be playing at Pottydoor Park which is

2137
01:47:05,067 --> 01:47:07,147
Speaker 2: only a few kilometers from where UK upright, So really

2138
01:47:07,187 --> 01:47:09,547
Speaker 2: it's this is a full circle for you, isn't it.

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01:47:09,707 --> 01:47:10,547
Speaker 24: It absolutely is.

2140
01:47:10,587 --> 01:47:12,467
Speaker 23: If you told me when I was twelve years old

2141
01:47:12,507 --> 01:47:14,747
Speaker 23: that i'd be playing professionally in Pottito or I'd probably

2142
01:47:14,787 --> 01:47:15,187
Speaker 23: laugh at you.

2143
01:47:15,547 --> 01:47:15,987
Speaker 8: So it is.

2144
01:47:16,147 --> 01:47:18,667
Speaker 23: It is really cool And yeah, I'm really excited to

2145
01:47:18,707 --> 01:47:20,507
Speaker 23: see my friends and family in the stands as well.

2146
01:47:20,907 --> 01:47:22,467
Speaker 2: And b F Priestman as the head coach. How much

2147
01:47:22,467 --> 01:47:25,347
Speaker 2: you're looking forward to working with her as your head coach?

2148
01:47:25,467 --> 01:47:27,947
Speaker 23: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. I had her

2149
01:47:27,987 --> 01:47:29,187
Speaker 23: for a short stint when I was in the New

2150
01:47:29,267 --> 01:47:31,947
Speaker 23: Zealand under seventeens and that that was a really cool time.

2151
01:47:32,027 --> 01:47:34,627
Speaker 23: And so yeah, she's got a lot of valuable experience

2152
01:47:34,787 --> 01:47:36,307
Speaker 23: and I think I'm going to learn a lot under her.

2153
01:47:36,867 --> 01:47:39,627
Speaker 2: Fifty caps for the Football Ferns. How strong are your

2154
01:47:39,867 --> 01:47:41,427
Speaker 2: international ambitions still?

2155
01:47:42,027 --> 01:47:43,347
Speaker 24: They're as strong as I've ever been.

2156
01:47:43,747 --> 01:47:45,947
Speaker 23: I am definitely I have my eyes set on the

2157
01:47:46,147 --> 01:47:48,667
Speaker 23: on that World Cup and I have every intention of

2158
01:47:48,747 --> 01:47:49,067
Speaker 23: being there.

2159
01:47:49,427 --> 01:47:51,787
Speaker 2: Because we haven't seen you this year in the Football Ferns,

2160
01:47:51,787 --> 01:47:53,747
Speaker 2: I think we saw you quite regularly in twenty twenty

2161
01:47:53,787 --> 01:47:56,587
Speaker 2: four obviously before that. So are you ready to go

2162
01:47:56,707 --> 01:47:58,227
Speaker 2: again at the next time of asking.

2163
01:47:58,467 --> 01:47:58,987
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think so.

2164
01:47:59,147 --> 01:48:01,347
Speaker 23: I mean there's conversations to be had for sure, and

2165
01:48:01,947 --> 01:48:04,947
Speaker 23: I can't assume anything, and yeah, there's definitely work to

2166
01:48:04,987 --> 01:48:07,187
Speaker 23: be done in that space. But like I say, I

2167
01:48:07,267 --> 01:48:09,147
Speaker 23: have every intention of being back with the team when

2168
01:48:09,227 --> 01:48:11,267
Speaker 23: that is I'm not too sure yet, but hopefully soon.

2169
01:48:11,507 --> 01:48:12,987
Speaker 2: So when you said there's work to be done, what

2170
01:48:13,307 --> 01:48:13,907
Speaker 2: do you mean by that?

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01:48:14,507 --> 01:48:16,867
Speaker 23: I mean I've obviously been away from the team for

2172
01:48:16,947 --> 01:48:19,587
Speaker 23: a little while a little while now, and I can't

2173
01:48:19,587 --> 01:48:21,307
Speaker 23: assume that I'm going to be back and I have

2174
01:48:21,387 --> 01:48:23,867
Speaker 23: to earn my spot and like I say, there's conversations

2175
01:48:23,907 --> 01:48:27,067
Speaker 23: that need to be had, which yeah, I'm definitely ready

2176
01:48:27,107 --> 01:48:27,467
Speaker 23: for I think.

2177
01:48:27,827 --> 01:48:29,267
Speaker 2: And back to this Phoenix side, you look at the

2178
01:48:29,347 --> 01:48:31,467
Speaker 2: roster that's been assembled. You're the latest addition to it.

2179
01:48:31,547 --> 01:48:33,867
Speaker 2: Does it feel like an exciting team, one that can

2180
01:48:33,947 --> 01:48:35,067
Speaker 2: do well in the season ahead.

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01:48:35,307 --> 01:48:35,507
Speaker 25: Yeah?

2182
01:48:35,587 --> 01:48:38,427
Speaker 23: Absolutely, I think they've done really well with the recruitment

2183
01:48:38,587 --> 01:48:40,947
Speaker 23: and yeah, I'm really excited for the season ahead.

2184
01:48:41,147 --> 01:48:43,787
Speaker 2: And the chances. You said before to have your family

2185
01:48:44,107 --> 01:48:47,747
Speaker 2: in some of your oldest friends watching on from the stands,

2186
01:48:47,827 --> 01:48:50,307
Speaker 2: is that a buzz As a footballer, absolutely?

2187
01:48:50,427 --> 01:48:53,067
Speaker 23: I think I love playing in front of a crowd

2188
01:48:53,227 --> 01:48:56,427
Speaker 23: and it's always special having family and friends in the crowd,

2189
01:48:56,467 --> 01:48:58,067
Speaker 23: and for me, I haven't really been able to have

2190
01:48:58,147 --> 01:48:59,987
Speaker 23: that unless it's kind of been a World Cup or

2191
01:49:00,427 --> 01:49:01,587
Speaker 23: home games with the Ferns.

2192
01:49:01,667 --> 01:49:03,947
Speaker 24: So it'll be really different for me having more than

2193
01:49:04,187 --> 01:49:05,347
Speaker 24: just my partner in the stands.

2194
01:49:06,347 --> 01:49:08,907
Speaker 23: But I'm so so excited to have them there and

2195
01:49:09,067 --> 01:49:10,467
Speaker 23: for it to just be down the road for them

2196
01:49:10,467 --> 01:49:11,707
Speaker 23: as well as extra special.

2197
01:49:12,067 --> 01:49:13,827
Speaker 2: How importants he been in all of this?

2198
01:49:14,187 --> 01:49:16,507
Speaker 24: Oh, he's awesome. He's my biggest fan.

2199
01:49:16,587 --> 01:49:18,867
Speaker 23: He's my biggest supporter and yeah it's pretty special to

2200
01:49:18,907 --> 01:49:20,067
Speaker 23: be able to bring him home as well.

2201
01:49:20,827 --> 01:49:23,507
Speaker 2: That is our CJ. Bott Football Fern and now Wellington

2202
01:49:23,547 --> 01:49:26,187
Speaker 2: Phoenix defender for the next two seasons. To the Toadong

2203
01:49:26,227 --> 01:49:26,867
Speaker 2: the Domain we go.

2204
01:49:27,307 --> 01:49:30,347
Speaker 15: It's Kurt Eckland's in there, loves a line out drive fright,

2205
01:49:30,547 --> 01:49:34,107
Speaker 15: he's five away from the line. They're closing in, bodies

2206
01:49:34,147 --> 01:49:37,547
Speaker 15: are over the line. Is the regret here? Marcus plausays,

2207
01:49:37,627 --> 01:49:40,227
Speaker 15: yes there is and as a try and it goes

2208
01:49:40,307 --> 01:49:42,867
Speaker 15: to Kurt Eckland of course ten nil.

2209
01:49:43,147 --> 01:49:46,307
Speaker 2: Ten nil indeed remains that with half an hour gone

2210
01:49:46,347 --> 01:49:49,267
Speaker 2: at the Toadong Domain, it's twenty three to three. We'll

2211
01:49:49,307 --> 01:49:52,147
Speaker 2: take a great comeback and talk to a history making

2212
01:49:52,627 --> 01:49:54,347
Speaker 2: cycling official after this.

2213
01:49:55,267 --> 01:49:58,987
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

2214
01:49:59,067 --> 01:50:02,947
Speaker 1: Hine and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder

2215
01:50:03,067 --> 01:50:03,867
Speaker 1: News Dogs B.

2216
01:50:05,187 --> 01:50:08,667
Speaker 2: Two forty on weekd in Sport. Zach Prendergast has become

2217
01:50:08,707 --> 01:50:11,987
Speaker 2: the first New Zealander to officiate on the iconic Tour

2218
01:50:12,107 --> 01:50:15,227
Speaker 2: de France. He's just back from serving as a technical

2219
01:50:15,387 --> 01:50:18,747
Speaker 2: commissaire during the twenty twenty five event and he joins

2220
01:50:18,827 --> 01:50:24,307
Speaker 2: us now, Zach, congratulations. What was your role as technical

2221
01:50:24,547 --> 01:50:28,547
Speaker 2: commissaire on the Tour de France or the technical.

2222
01:50:28,227 --> 01:50:31,987
Speaker 25: Commissaire is one of the roles within the overall panel

2223
01:50:32,267 --> 01:50:36,587
Speaker 25: of commissaies or referees if you like that. Go with

2224
01:50:36,667 --> 01:50:39,307
Speaker 25: any race, but particularly on a race this big, there

2225
01:50:39,347 --> 01:50:44,387
Speaker 25: are a few extra roles that are used to oversee

2226
01:50:44,387 --> 01:50:44,867
Speaker 25: at the event.

2227
01:50:45,267 --> 01:50:47,747
Speaker 2: So on a day to day basis, then what are

2228
01:50:47,827 --> 01:50:49,867
Speaker 2: your responsibilities.

2229
01:50:49,947 --> 01:50:50,427
Speaker 14: Day to day?

2230
01:50:51,067 --> 01:50:54,347
Speaker 25: So start in the morning and go to the start,

2231
01:50:54,867 --> 01:50:56,987
Speaker 25: take the briefings with the other commissais about what the

2232
01:50:57,027 --> 01:51:00,507
Speaker 25: plan is for the day before the start, the teams

2233
01:51:00,507 --> 01:51:02,867
Speaker 25: would say at the start was at one o'clock. The

2234
01:51:02,907 --> 01:51:05,147
Speaker 25: teams would roll up in the team buses around eleven

2235
01:51:05,267 --> 01:51:09,227
Speaker 25: thirty and look at all the bikes that they have

2236
01:51:09,467 --> 01:51:12,027
Speaker 25: and they each rider may have up the three bikes,

2237
01:51:12,107 --> 01:51:15,707
Speaker 25: spears and so on. Also talk with the team mechanics

2238
01:51:15,787 --> 01:51:18,907
Speaker 25: make sure they're happy with everything, how that's going. We'd

2239
01:51:19,027 --> 01:51:23,947
Speaker 25: have motor commerce hears as their role, but they're basically

2240
01:51:23,987 --> 01:51:27,787
Speaker 25: referees to go around on motorbikes. They would check with

2241
01:51:28,107 --> 01:51:31,187
Speaker 25: a use of the tablet, the magnetic scanning device to

2242
01:51:31,307 --> 01:51:35,827
Speaker 25: cheat for any technical proprietaries on the bike or anything

2243
01:51:35,867 --> 01:51:38,987
Speaker 25: that they they made. Deteck and I would be going

2244
01:51:39,027 --> 01:51:39,707
Speaker 25: around looking.

2245
01:51:39,587 --> 01:51:42,307
Speaker 14: At tolerances as well as ensuring.

2246
01:51:41,987 --> 01:51:45,827
Speaker 25: The bikes were put well, well assembled within the sort

2247
01:51:45,867 --> 01:51:48,747
Speaker 25: of dimensions that are promoted under the regulations.

2248
01:51:49,267 --> 01:51:51,947
Speaker 2: How much of the role is about making sure no

2249
01:51:52,067 --> 01:51:57,067
Speaker 2: one gains an unfair advantage by acting outside the rules, Well.

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01:51:56,987 --> 01:51:58,947
Speaker 14: It's a big part of it. It's a huge part

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01:51:58,987 --> 01:52:01,547
Speaker 14: of it. That would be just before the start.

2252
01:52:02,067 --> 01:52:04,227
Speaker 25: But if you look at the time trial where every

2253
01:52:04,347 --> 01:52:06,587
Speaker 25: rider will turn up on a time trial by which

2254
01:52:06,707 --> 01:52:08,827
Speaker 25: most people understands is a bit more exotic than your

2255
01:52:08,867 --> 01:52:11,747
Speaker 25: average road bike. You would be putting a bike on

2256
01:52:11,827 --> 01:52:13,827
Speaker 25: a jig. You would look at all of that to

2257
01:52:13,947 --> 01:52:17,267
Speaker 25: make sure that that's all within the dimensions because aerodynamics

2258
01:52:17,387 --> 01:52:20,227
Speaker 25: is a huge, absolutely huge part of it now, so

2259
01:52:20,467 --> 01:52:23,787
Speaker 25: making sure it's all put in within the correct toranss

2260
01:52:23,987 --> 01:52:27,987
Speaker 25: using legal componentry and there has been a push over

2261
01:52:28,107 --> 01:52:31,267
Speaker 25: recent years to make sure that all the components wry.

2262
01:52:31,307 --> 01:52:33,707
Speaker 25: You can get on one of these really exotic, high

2263
01:52:33,787 --> 01:52:36,667
Speaker 25: priced bikes is available commercially, whether you can afford it

2264
01:52:36,787 --> 01:52:39,827
Speaker 25: or not. It's a different thing, but making sure that

2265
01:52:39,947 --> 01:52:43,267
Speaker 25: that's legal. The other component of that is the rider himself.

2266
01:52:43,427 --> 01:52:46,427
Speaker 25: They're clothing that they wear, the helmets that they use,

2267
01:52:46,507 --> 01:52:49,907
Speaker 25: and so on, and so that meets the technical requirements

2268
01:52:49,987 --> 01:52:54,187
Speaker 25: as well, generally looking at the aerodynamic side of it.

2269
01:52:55,147 --> 01:52:57,947
Speaker 14: So those are some of the aspects.

2270
01:52:58,587 --> 01:53:03,747
Speaker 25: During the race, I would be going to the var truck,

2271
01:53:03,787 --> 01:53:06,547
Speaker 25: which is basically a truck that's at the finished line.

2272
01:53:06,547 --> 01:53:09,427
Speaker 25: It's hooked into all the live feeds from the race,

2273
01:53:09,467 --> 01:53:11,707
Speaker 25: so they'll be up to twelve cameras and there is

2274
01:53:11,747 --> 01:53:14,947
Speaker 25: what's done as a TV support Commissaid could call them

2275
01:53:15,027 --> 01:53:18,067
Speaker 25: the sort of the third referee or whatever they call

2276
01:53:18,147 --> 01:53:22,027
Speaker 25: them in Rugby, the old the TV guy. He would

2277
01:53:22,027 --> 01:53:23,987
Speaker 25: be looking at the race throughout the whole time to

2278
01:53:24,067 --> 01:53:26,467
Speaker 25: make sure stee if there were any incidents or anything

2279
01:53:26,587 --> 01:53:30,427
Speaker 25: of note that may be someone looking to take advantage

2280
01:53:30,747 --> 01:53:33,867
Speaker 25: or a safety matter or anything else. I've been looking

2281
01:53:33,907 --> 01:53:35,827
Speaker 25: at that, looking to identify anything that we want to

2282
01:53:35,867 --> 01:53:38,547
Speaker 25: have a further look at. And then after the race,

2283
01:53:38,587 --> 01:53:40,427
Speaker 25: I'd be part of a small team that would do

2284
01:53:40,627 --> 01:53:44,427
Speaker 25: technological forward checks where we would X ray bikes of

2285
01:53:46,187 --> 01:53:48,627
Speaker 25: those guys that made it to the podium, the current

2286
01:53:48,907 --> 01:53:52,227
Speaker 25: classification leaders, anyone that had been targeted and so on.

2287
01:53:53,227 --> 01:53:54,667
Speaker 14: So, yeah, quite a busy day.

2288
01:53:54,747 --> 01:53:56,507
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it sounds like it. I guess

2289
01:53:56,587 --> 01:54:00,187
Speaker 2: we think about cycling and about people who cheat, and

2290
01:54:00,787 --> 01:54:05,787
Speaker 2: in the past we land on the cyclists themselves who use,

2291
01:54:06,467 --> 01:54:09,587
Speaker 2: you know, unfair means to improve their performance. But what

2292
01:54:09,627 --> 01:54:13,227
Speaker 2: are you're talking about here is referred to as mechanical doping,

2293
01:54:13,307 --> 01:54:16,627
Speaker 2: which is when you mess with the bike itself. How

2294
01:54:16,747 --> 01:54:20,507
Speaker 2: sophisticated has mechanical doping become?

2295
01:54:22,387 --> 01:54:26,867
Speaker 14: Well, we're we're looking with some pretty good tools.

2296
01:54:26,867 --> 01:54:30,027
Speaker 25: I mean, the first there is since in the last

2297
01:54:30,107 --> 01:54:33,547
Speaker 25: two years is not only has there been a scheme

2298
01:54:33,587 --> 01:54:37,627
Speaker 25: where if someone with wherever wants to believe there's something

2299
01:54:37,667 --> 01:54:39,307
Speaker 25: they're going on, they may be able to call in

2300
01:54:39,427 --> 01:54:41,667
Speaker 25: and so on. So you know, maybe an eight hundred

2301
01:54:41,747 --> 01:54:44,627
Speaker 25: number or something like that you could say with someone

2302
01:54:44,707 --> 01:54:47,587
Speaker 25: that they suspect something. The way they're looking at the

2303
01:54:47,627 --> 01:54:50,387
Speaker 25: fraud as well, with the X ray machines and things

2304
01:54:50,507 --> 01:54:52,987
Speaker 25: like that, looking for any pets and so on, I

2305
01:54:53,067 --> 01:54:56,707
Speaker 25: think it's become a huge part because of the requirement

2306
01:54:56,787 --> 01:54:58,147
Speaker 25: for the integrity.

2307
01:54:58,347 --> 01:54:59,467
Speaker 14: And so on to be able to.

2308
01:55:00,987 --> 01:55:03,947
Speaker 25: Help, you say, to just make sure that those people

2309
01:55:03,987 --> 01:55:06,987
Speaker 25: that are riding and winning races, are doing so fairly?

2310
01:55:07,747 --> 01:55:10,867
Speaker 2: And are you there Zach to catch people or is

2311
01:55:10,907 --> 01:55:13,427
Speaker 2: it more about the fact that you're visible, there are

2312
01:55:13,507 --> 01:55:16,547
Speaker 2: so many of you, You're being so precise with your

2313
01:55:16,667 --> 01:55:19,827
Speaker 2: checks that you're actually acting more as a deterrent to people.

2314
01:55:21,227 --> 01:55:24,107
Speaker 25: Well, I suppose the terrences is the first first objective.

2315
01:55:24,147 --> 01:55:26,387
Speaker 25: I mean, when we've got these guys with the tablets

2316
01:55:26,427 --> 01:55:29,947
Speaker 25: going around, if they're doing, say up with the fifty

2317
01:55:30,627 --> 01:55:34,667
Speaker 25: checks every morning over twenty one stages, there's a lot

2318
01:55:34,707 --> 01:55:36,827
Speaker 25: of checks, but we're going through your teams on a

2319
01:55:36,987 --> 01:55:39,507
Speaker 25: random basis. Plus we can also check at the end

2320
01:55:39,547 --> 01:55:42,707
Speaker 25: of it with the X ray things, so anyone is

2321
01:55:42,747 --> 01:55:47,667
Speaker 25: available for that. It would be similar to the antidoping

2322
01:55:47,747 --> 01:55:51,427
Speaker 25: program where writers can be tested either in competition or

2323
01:55:51,467 --> 01:55:54,067
Speaker 25: out of competition and so on. But how if it's

2324
01:55:54,067 --> 01:56:00,107
Speaker 25: were aligned to the race itself and going around and checking,

2325
01:56:00,187 --> 01:56:02,387
Speaker 25: and we would have a plan on how we would

2326
01:56:02,427 --> 01:56:03,787
Speaker 25: go about it, and we would go.

2327
01:56:03,827 --> 01:56:04,107
Speaker 9: And do it.

2328
01:56:04,787 --> 01:56:06,147
Speaker 2: Did you catch anybody this year?

2329
01:56:08,347 --> 01:56:09,387
Speaker 14: No, we had a few.

2330
01:56:09,787 --> 01:56:11,507
Speaker 25: If we detect anything, we can always talk to the

2331
01:56:11,547 --> 01:56:13,507
Speaker 25: mechanics and so on, so what do you think about

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Speaker 25: this and so on and go through their explanations.

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01:56:16,787 --> 01:56:18,507
Speaker 14: We had the ability if we needed to.

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01:56:21,667 --> 01:56:24,747
Speaker 25: Ask the mechanic to come and dismantle us something else

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01:56:24,827 --> 01:56:27,267
Speaker 25: for further investigation, and we did that a couple of times.

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01:56:27,987 --> 01:56:30,587
Speaker 25: I think it's also worthy of note to say that

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01:56:32,227 --> 01:56:34,227
Speaker 25: we're not looking to catch people as to protect the

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01:56:34,267 --> 01:56:38,067
Speaker 25: fairness of the sport. But the head of the Fight

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01:56:38,107 --> 01:56:40,867
Speaker 25: against Technological FRAUDA also invited some of the media that

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01:56:41,027 --> 01:56:43,187
Speaker 25: were their Eurosport and so on to come and have

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01:56:43,267 --> 01:56:45,187
Speaker 25: a look at the process as well, so that could

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01:56:45,227 --> 01:56:48,587
Speaker 25: be put out there worldwide, so people do know what

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01:56:48,747 --> 01:56:49,267
Speaker 25: we are doing.

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01:56:49,747 --> 01:56:53,027
Speaker 2: Sounds like a really busy time for you, and you know,

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01:56:53,107 --> 01:56:55,947
Speaker 2: your head down working across the entire event. But were

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01:56:56,027 --> 01:56:59,947
Speaker 2: you able at times even to enjoy the Tour de

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01:57:00,027 --> 01:57:01,707
Speaker 2: France as a cycling fan.

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01:57:04,307 --> 01:57:07,627
Speaker 25: Well, I've I've been to the takeout Olympics to the

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01:57:07,707 --> 01:57:10,027
Speaker 25: track and that was a bit different because of the COVID,

2350
01:57:10,507 --> 01:57:13,747
Speaker 25: and I went to the Paris Paralympics. This was just

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01:57:14,107 --> 01:57:16,747
Speaker 25: this is just on a different scale completely. It's just

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01:57:17,747 --> 01:57:22,027
Speaker 25: fathomable how how many people go to it and watch

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01:57:22,107 --> 01:57:25,107
Speaker 25: it and enjoy it and everything else. If I give

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01:57:25,147 --> 01:57:26,907
Speaker 25: you an example, it's like, well, I'll go around and

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01:57:26,947 --> 01:57:28,707
Speaker 25: I'll talk to the teams before we start.

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01:57:29,267 --> 01:57:30,867
Speaker 14: So you have a whole lot of crowd.

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01:57:30,627 --> 01:57:33,107
Speaker 25: Who aren't allowed anywhere, not known as what's done as

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01:57:33,147 --> 01:57:36,547
Speaker 25: a team paddock, and these twenty three team buses roll

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01:57:36,707 --> 01:57:39,547
Speaker 25: up with all the end cars and everything else. What

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01:57:39,707 --> 01:57:42,587
Speaker 25: they then do is they then allowed crowd who have

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01:57:42,627 --> 01:57:45,387
Speaker 25: been invited by the teams themselves to come around, and

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01:57:45,507 --> 01:57:47,867
Speaker 25: they put their little barriers up like you'll find at

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01:57:47,907 --> 01:57:49,987
Speaker 25: the bank or the customs or something like that.

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01:57:50,747 --> 01:57:51,427
Speaker 14: You can't get in.

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01:57:51,867 --> 01:57:52,347
Speaker 3: You just try.

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01:57:52,427 --> 01:57:54,507
Speaker 25: You're trying to work and everything else, and there's just

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01:57:54,787 --> 01:57:59,147
Speaker 25: people everywhere. It's phenomenal trying to drive up for a

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01:57:59,227 --> 01:58:02,467
Speaker 25: mountaintop finish. I've never seen so many cycles in all

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Speaker 25: my life.

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Speaker 14: You know, they all want to ride up.

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01:58:04,227 --> 01:58:06,027
Speaker 25: Ah, this is the hill we did up here, and

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01:58:06,547 --> 01:58:08,947
Speaker 25: mount on too, and all this here, and you just

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01:58:09,027 --> 01:58:12,587
Speaker 25: can't get up. There's just thousands and thousands of cyclists

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01:58:13,147 --> 01:58:17,347
Speaker 25: people camped on the road. It's just amazing and it's unbelievable.

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01:58:17,787 --> 01:58:18,307
Speaker 14: And they're mad.

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01:58:18,987 --> 01:58:21,507
Speaker 25: When I say they're mad, the fandom, you know, what

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01:58:21,627 --> 01:58:24,107
Speaker 25: they'll wear and the flags they'll have and everything else.

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01:58:24,147 --> 01:58:29,227
Speaker 14: They're crazy. But I will say this though, they're very tidy.

2379
01:58:29,307 --> 01:58:30,027
Speaker 14: They're very tidy.

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01:58:30,067 --> 01:58:31,547
Speaker 25: You come off the hill at the end of the night,

2381
01:58:31,827 --> 01:58:34,747
Speaker 25: places absolutely spotless. You wouldn't know they've been there. But

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01:58:34,827 --> 01:58:38,107
Speaker 25: it's just a different scale. It's just completely I don't know,

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01:58:38,147 --> 01:58:39,307
Speaker 25: if you know it could be prepared for it.

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01:58:39,387 --> 01:58:42,467
Speaker 2: Really incredible. What a great picture you've painted for us there.

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01:58:42,867 --> 01:58:45,987
Speaker 2: How did you get involved, Zach and cycling officiating?

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01:58:46,947 --> 01:58:48,747
Speaker 25: Well, I've always been cyclist when I was a youngster

2387
01:58:48,827 --> 01:58:50,467
Speaker 25: and everything else, and then I was with the military.

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01:58:50,467 --> 01:58:53,187
Speaker 25: When you're upper marios, there's not not too much cycling

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01:58:53,267 --> 01:58:56,067
Speaker 25: around there on the roads. When I went down to

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01:58:56,267 --> 01:58:58,587
Speaker 25: christ Heuch i was recruiting. I joined a citling club

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01:58:58,667 --> 01:59:01,867
Speaker 25: down there, and I always wanted to represent New zealing.

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01:59:02,027 --> 01:59:04,267
Speaker 25: When you're getting your butt kicked on a regular basis

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01:59:04,507 --> 01:59:07,347
Speaker 25: just in club races by other guys, realize maybe that's

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01:59:07,427 --> 01:59:11,947
Speaker 25: not your true calling. And I had an opportunity to

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01:59:12,027 --> 01:59:14,107
Speaker 25: be a referee and asked what it was like, and

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01:59:14,187 --> 01:59:15,627
Speaker 25: they said, oh, yeah, you can do it. So I

2397
01:59:16,187 --> 01:59:18,187
Speaker 25: did the course and I just found out that had

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01:59:18,667 --> 01:59:21,747
Speaker 25: similarities and what I was doing. I had been formerly

2399
01:59:21,987 --> 01:59:25,067
Speaker 25: a tank troop commander with the army, if you will,

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01:59:25,507 --> 01:59:29,227
Speaker 25: and you're looking to communicate across things, you have a vehicle,

2401
01:59:29,307 --> 01:59:32,147
Speaker 25: you have to maneuver around, you're working with young people,

2402
01:59:32,747 --> 01:59:34,947
Speaker 25: so it sort of works through there, and then I

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01:59:35,027 --> 01:59:37,267
Speaker 25: got a taste for it, and I just believe that

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01:59:37,427 --> 01:59:39,227
Speaker 25: I suppose that's a bit of the military as well

2405
01:59:39,267 --> 01:59:40,787
Speaker 25: as that if you're going to try and do anything,

2406
01:59:40,827 --> 01:59:42,307
Speaker 25: you're trying and do it the best of your ability.

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01:59:42,427 --> 01:59:46,507
Speaker 25: So I just committed myself to it and I've just

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01:59:46,627 --> 01:59:50,267
Speaker 25: gone on with it. Not every day the sun's shining, obviously,

2409
01:59:50,947 --> 01:59:54,027
Speaker 25: but it's given me a lot of joy and the

2410
01:59:54,067 --> 01:59:57,107
Speaker 25: people I've met in cycling of friends forul life. My

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01:59:57,187 --> 01:59:59,907
Speaker 25: wife's extremely supportive to it. I couldn't do it without

2412
01:59:59,947 --> 02:00:03,867
Speaker 25: it in all honesty because the time away from home

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02:00:04,027 --> 02:00:07,787
Speaker 25: and it's not a paid position. You work for a

2414
02:00:07,907 --> 02:00:10,467
Speaker 25: per diem, so you really do have to take the

2415
02:00:10,547 --> 02:00:12,347
Speaker 25: positive aspects out of what you're trying to do to

2416
02:00:12,747 --> 02:00:12,947
Speaker 25: do it.

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Speaker 2: So having done one Tour de France, now, will that

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02:00:16,067 --> 02:00:19,627
Speaker 2: open the door for future involvement for you in that event?

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02:00:20,787 --> 02:00:23,667
Speaker 25: Well, the appointments are made by the UCI, the International

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02:00:23,747 --> 02:00:27,147
Speaker 25: Cycling Union and the Technical Commissary role. There's not so

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02:00:27,267 --> 02:00:29,547
Speaker 25: many guys in the world that do it, So you

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02:00:29,707 --> 02:00:32,947
Speaker 25: could be going to any any race around the world.

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02:00:33,947 --> 02:00:35,707
Speaker 25: As I said, I went to the Paralympics, was the

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02:00:35,747 --> 02:00:38,147
Speaker 25: first KIV to do that and I went there as

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02:00:38,227 --> 02:00:41,027
Speaker 25: a as a technical commissare. So I'm doing that as

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Speaker 25: for part of the part of the Panel of Commises,

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02:00:43,587 --> 02:00:44,067
Speaker 25: as part.

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Speaker 14: Of the group of referees and racing.

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02:00:47,307 --> 02:00:49,067
Speaker 25: Yeah, it can race anywhere around the world.

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Speaker 3: Old.

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Speaker 25: Next month I'll go to the month after, I'll go

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02:00:53,267 --> 02:00:56,747
Speaker 25: to China for a couple of races as well. And

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02:00:57,467 --> 02:00:59,707
Speaker 25: you know Europe, Oceanny and North America.

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02:00:59,747 --> 02:01:01,547
Speaker 14: It doesn't really matter where so good.

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02:01:01,907 --> 02:01:06,227
Speaker 2: And there are other keys involved in different capacities. Writers

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02:01:06,507 --> 02:01:08,027
Speaker 2: those involved in some of the teams on the tour

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02:01:08,107 --> 02:01:09,627
Speaker 2: to front, were you able to keep an eye on

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02:01:10,267 --> 02:01:12,107
Speaker 2: the kiver was involved or catch up with the other

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02:01:12,147 --> 02:01:13,187
Speaker 2: New Zealanders who were there.

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Speaker 25: Well, there was a young lad, dear Lawrence Kuzzi, who

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02:01:17,027 --> 02:01:21,267
Speaker 25: was ring extremely well for his team Borre a handscrow

2442
02:01:21,387 --> 02:01:25,027
Speaker 25: read bull bor or handscrow And I used to race

2443
02:01:25,107 --> 02:01:27,067
Speaker 25: with his father some many moons you go, but no,

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02:01:27,347 --> 02:01:28,387
Speaker 25: I've known him from NZI.

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Speaker 9: He's a good lad.

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02:01:30,187 --> 02:01:32,947
Speaker 25: There's also one of the team the sport directors or

2447
02:01:32,987 --> 02:01:36,307
Speaker 25: the directors sport teachers as they call Sam Bewley, and

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02:01:36,587 --> 02:01:38,867
Speaker 25: I've known him for a long time and his father

2449
02:01:39,547 --> 02:01:42,787
Speaker 25: and one of the mechanics, the chief mechanic for the

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02:01:43,067 --> 02:01:48,867
Speaker 25: JKL Alula team, Craig Getter. I worked with him at

2451
02:01:48,987 --> 02:01:52,747
Speaker 25: the Commonwealth Games in twenty fourteen. We were roomies and

2452
02:01:52,867 --> 02:01:54,627
Speaker 25: so I caught up with him again as well. So

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02:01:55,227 --> 02:01:58,027
Speaker 25: I mean, everyone's everyone's busy, everyone has their job to

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02:01:58,107 --> 02:02:01,027
Speaker 25: do and so on. They're hugely respected lads and they're

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02:02:01,107 --> 02:02:02,827
Speaker 25: very good at what they're do but it's always nice

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02:02:02,827 --> 02:02:03,467
Speaker 25: to catch up with it.

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Speaker 3: Key.

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02:02:03,707 --> 02:02:06,187
Speaker 25: We just say how's it going, how and everything else

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02:02:06,747 --> 02:02:08,987
Speaker 25: and just hope wish them well. But there's a lot

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02:02:09,067 --> 02:02:13,787
Speaker 25: of people there from obviously from different countries that I've

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02:02:13,827 --> 02:02:15,787
Speaker 25: worked with for a period of time, so it's always

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02:02:15,787 --> 02:02:17,387
Speaker 25: good to see them and it has them how they're going,

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02:02:17,467 --> 02:02:19,987
Speaker 25: how their families go. I generally don't ask people, you know,

2464
02:02:20,067 --> 02:02:21,827
Speaker 25: what are you planning for the race or anything that

2465
02:02:21,987 --> 02:02:23,827
Speaker 25: I just ask them how their family is and so on,

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02:02:25,067 --> 02:02:25,987
Speaker 25: try and connect that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliant stuff, Zach. What an experience for you. Real

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02:02:28,667 --> 02:02:30,427
Speaker 2: feather in your cap as well. The first key we

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02:02:30,547 --> 02:02:33,147
Speaker 2: to officiate at the Tour de France. May there be

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02:02:33,507 --> 02:02:35,787
Speaker 2: many more. Thanks for joining us this afternoon, mate, and

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02:02:35,867 --> 02:02:38,427
Speaker 2: giving us an insight into a into a really really

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02:02:38,467 --> 02:02:39,467
Speaker 2: exciting part of your life.

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Speaker 14: Are You're welcome.

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Speaker 9: You're welcome.

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02:02:41,027 --> 02:02:41,627
Speaker 14: Thanks to your time.

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Speaker 9: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: No, I appreciate your time, Zach Zach prendigas there technical

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02:02:45,267 --> 02:02:48,267
Speaker 2: commissaire at the most recent tour to France. Seven and

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Speaker 2: a half to three News Talks.

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Speaker 1: It be analyzing every view from every angle in the

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Speaker 1: sporting world to weekends for it with Jason Pine they

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Speaker 1: call eight hundred and eighties and eighty US Talks V.

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Speaker 2: Four to three. That is us on weekend sport for

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Speaker 2: today and for another weekend to beverage after three with

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Speaker 2: the weekend collect huge thanks to Ana McDonald for the

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02:03:07,667 --> 02:03:10,307
Speaker 2: heavy lifting across the weekend, of which there was a lot.

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Speaker 2: Thanks mate, Go and enjoy a couple of hours of

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Speaker 2: rest and recreation. We're back tomorrow night on Sports Talk.

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Speaker 2: Taking us out today, Well, we started the show talking

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02:03:18,627 --> 02:03:23,147
Speaker 2: about Matt Henry, so let's finish with Herman's Hermits singing

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Speaker 2: about Henry Henry the eighth see.

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Speaker 3: Him read the eighth thigh Men a ready eighth thigh

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Speaker 3: Am I am.

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Speaker 16: I got married him the weird on ext ball.

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Speaker 24: He's been married.

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Speaker 2: Seven times before, and then the one wasn't Enery menory one.

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Speaker 24: I'm a Willie Horis O love.

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Speaker 15: I'm an eighth old man, I'm henery and already eight.

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Speaker 1: I am eight e and now why Anne.

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Speaker 3: And already five?

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Speaker 14: I'm already I file.

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