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Speaker 1: It is quarter to five news Talk ZB, which means

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Speaker 1: you've got fifteen actually an hour and fifteen minutes if

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Speaker 1: you've got some fairies you'd like to sell to the government.

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Speaker 1: Very Soper is here, senior political correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Hey Barry, No, you've got an hour and fifteen Actually

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Speaker 2: it closes at six o'clock. There you go, so you've

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Speaker 2: got more time. If you want to submit to build

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Speaker 2: an inter island ferry, then you know you've got an

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Speaker 2: hour and a quarter now to convince Treasury, who will

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Speaker 2: then put up a case to the government. Interestingly, the

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Speaker 2: board Faery Holdings Board. I don't know whether you noticed it.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago the membership was announced. Heather

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Speaker 2: Simpson is on Helen Clark's former chief of START. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's right, so there'll be in making decisions in late

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Speaker 2: March about the best proposal it comes forward now. Winston

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Speaker 2: Peters of course, as a Minister of Rail and that

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Speaker 2: was at his behest when Nikola Willis had something ready

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Speaker 2: to go last December, it was canned. The fair very

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Speaker 2: contract you remember that the Labor government had negotiated, was

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Speaker 2: canceled and now they're looking at reparation. This is my high.

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Speaker 2: Undi Mipu is looking now for some sort of payout clause.

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Speaker 2: Winston just happens to be in Korea and he's going

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Speaker 2: to be meeting with this particular company now, dare I

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Speaker 2: say it, He's like another deal maker that is in

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Speaker 2: the international news at the moment. But the thing about

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Speaker 2: Winston's deal, if he can strike one with the contract

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Speaker 2: that was canceled, we'll never know how much. We say,

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Speaker 2: no exactly, we don't know how much was outlaid in

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Speaker 2: the first place. Joy whatever happens Ryan, my view is

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Speaker 2: that Winston will claim it's a great success. We've saved

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Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars. But of course the public

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Speaker 2: will never really know, and they're not likely to get

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Speaker 2: an argument from Nikola Willis because that's the deal that

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Speaker 2: coalition partners have. Don't argue you too publicly with each other.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and don'nas don't tell basically, yeah exactly. Chinese

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Speaker 1: say this is fascinating from the Foreign Minister in the

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Speaker 1: Chinese Foreign Minister in Australia who's come out and basically said, yes,

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Speaker 1: we were there in your waters, nothing to apologize for,

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Speaker 1: and we're becoming more thank you.

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Speaker 2: Is the Chinese ambassador actually forgive me, Yeah, because Winston

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Speaker 2: don't forget. He's met with the Chinese Foreign Minister in

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Speaker 2: Beijing and clearly that was discussed, no doubt, and he said,

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Speaker 2: you know, not only that, the Cork Islands issue was

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Speaker 2: discussed as well. We won't know publicly, of course, exactly

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Speaker 2: what was said, but i'd imagine that Winston would say

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Speaker 2: how disappointed New Zealand was, particularly with this exercise by

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Speaker 2: three Chinese warships off the coast of Australia and the

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Speaker 2: Tasman Sea not that far away from New Zealand. But

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Speaker 2: the Chinese, the ambassador says, they've got nothing to apologize for.

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Speaker 2: They were operating in international waters. They conducted live firing,

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Speaker 2: but he said, we don't have to buy international law

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Speaker 2: give warnings of that. Nevertheless, above airlines had to divert

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Speaker 2: flights because they were concerned about it. But the Chinese

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Speaker 2: are not going to apologize. Indeed, what they say is

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Speaker 2: there'll be more exercises in the Tasman by China, so

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Speaker 2: they're not going back on that, no doubt. We'll see

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Speaker 2: more activity in the Taiwanese Straits at some stage.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we will. Now the action was all at

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Speaker 1: the White House and we both watched this press conference, Berry,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you had a similar reaction to me

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Speaker 1: with Kis Starmer just really laying it on thick.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, isn't it. That Look I never really knew

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Speaker 2: kissed kiss Starma, I must say. And you know I

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Speaker 2: thought he's a labor prime minister, a bit boring, but look,

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Speaker 2: he's really come in to his eye. He has. He

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Speaker 2: was sitting so close to Donald Trump and is touching

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Speaker 2: him on the shoulder on the old occasion, on the

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Speaker 2: you know, in a friendly sort of a way. But

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Speaker 2: it was during the meeting, interestingly, that Starmer appealed to

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Speaker 2: Trump's to Trump to reach a historic peace deal with

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Speaker 2: the Ukraine, and he said that there can't be peace

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Speaker 2: that rewards the aggressor. Now that was quite you know, provocative,

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Speaker 2: I've thought for the British Prime minister to say. But

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Speaker 2: he flattered and flatted Donald Trump so much that he

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Speaker 2: could have said anything to the man sitting alongside him.

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Speaker 2: Of course, in the Oval office, Starmer was most convivial,

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Speaker 2: and he reached into a suit pocket at one stage

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Speaker 2: and pulled out a letter and presented the president with

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Speaker 2: it from King Charles. Trump read it before asking the

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Speaker 2: British Prime Minister to read a bit from it.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps you'd like to say what that very important paragraph. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so this is a letter from his much Dave, the King.

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Speaker 3: It's an invitation for a second stage visit. This is

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Speaker 3: really special. This has never happened before. This is unprecedented,

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Speaker 3: and I think that just symbolizes the strength of the

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Speaker 3: relationship between us. So this is a very special letter.

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Speaker 3: I think the last state visit was a tremendous success.

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Speaker 3: His match, the King, wants to make this even better

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Speaker 3: than that. So this is this is true story.

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Speaker 2: Talking about laying on with the trial, I laughed that

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Speaker 2: you played that Graham about Orcus and Trump not knowing

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Speaker 2: what it meant. But the other thing was he was

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Speaker 2: asked whether he thought that Zelinski, who will be meeting

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Speaker 2: the Ukrainian president later today, asked him whether he thought

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Speaker 2: he was a dictator, and he replied, did I say that.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I said that. He's a memory.

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Speaker 1: I said earlier, I said Trump is the oratory equivalent

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Speaker 1: of a bull. He just says anything, and as he's

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Speaker 1: just demonstrated doesn't know what he's said.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember, so we can't hold him accountable exactly.

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Speaker 1: Barry Soper's senior political correspondent here at news Talk zib.

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