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Speaker 1: Ordering on somebody, Key is getting rid of its target

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Speaker 1: to put fifty eight percent of the kids in its

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Speaker 1: care with the wid Afano.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: It did this, it's said, because it needed to get

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Speaker 1: children back to their families. It's also ditching a target

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Speaker 1: for investment with MALDI organizations. The Minister for Children is

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Speaker 1: Karen Chare. She says it's part of a strategy quote

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Speaker 1: to put safety first. She's with me now, minister.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Oh, good evening, how are you very well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for being with me. So what's the

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Speaker 1: problem with the target?

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Speaker 2: So ordering a Toomidekei has a lot of targets when

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Speaker 2: it comes to how we make decisions and care for

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Speaker 2: our children that come to our attention. When I first

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Speaker 2: became minister, I was concerned by the amount of internal

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Speaker 2: targets that we had that aren't directly related to the

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Speaker 2: core purpose of the organization, which is care and protection,

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Speaker 2: and we weren't doing that well to be honest, and

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Speaker 2: so I want the focus to go back to the

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Speaker 2: safety and the well being of a young people and

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Speaker 2: make sure that our targets are actually aimed at that.

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Speaker 2: So the target around requiring OT to place fifty eight

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Speaker 2: percent of children in care with wider family and faro

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Speaker 2: sounds good, but what happens if there are no wide

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Speaker 2: afano to care for those children, and if we have

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Speaker 2: a target of caregivers, more Maori caregivers, We've actually got

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Speaker 2: another problem. Now we don't have enough plates for these

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Speaker 2: young people to go. My concern is they're going to

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Speaker 2: become institutionalized because we don't have placements because of this targetquence.

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Speaker 1: So because ordering a tumid key required that they have

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Speaker 1: more Maori caregivers, they've got less caregivers overall because they

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Speaker 1: weren't enough Maori ones.

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Speaker 2: But they weren't enough caregivers all up this this this requirement.

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Speaker 1: Were not put their hands up, but were they not

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Speaker 1: looking for caregivers White caregivers.

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Speaker 2: That number decline and many keygivers that were not Mary

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Speaker 2: felt that they weren't wanted or needed. Over the last

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Speaker 2: few years that the feedback I was getting they told

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Speaker 2: you and I want yep and I want good cygivers.

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Speaker 2: People who are willing to open up their homes and

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Speaker 2: love these kids and care for these kids in a

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Speaker 2: safe way. To feel comfortable putting their hands up knowing

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Speaker 2: that they can do a good job for these young people.

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