1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Yesterday there was news. It's been all over the news 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. A Reserve Bank cuts OCR 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: by fifty basis points. And I have had conversations with people, 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: and I'll be honest, I didn't really know what I 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: was saying about it. 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: The general vibe you get is that it's a good thing, yes, 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: and I know that it stands for official cash rap yeah. 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 9 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: But other than that, I'm like, oh. 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: So, we thought maybe we could ask some what we 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: think might be silly questions, dumb questions to someone who 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: knows all about it, and hopefully they can explain it 13 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: so we can all learn and we can all have 14 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: those conversations with a little bit more confidence than I've 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: had over the last twenty four hours. 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Brad Olson is a chief economist, and he knows what 17 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: he's talking about, and he is very good at explaining 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: things in movement's terms. Good morning, Brad, How are you well? 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: You got We've got nice to talk to you a lot. 20 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: We've been struggling all morning wondering how to approach this 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: news about the OCR for the fact that we don't 22 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: really know entirely what it means other than people keep saying. 23 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: It's good and we know that it stands for official 24 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: cash right, Yes. 25 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've got a good, good solid start, 26 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 3: the good solid start we were. 27 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: Going with, Okay, so please help us out. What's so, 28 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: what's happened yesterday? And really like just dumb it down 29 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: and then dumb it down some more. 30 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Okay. So effectively, the Rezono Bank didn't want people to 31 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: spend as much money because there's too much inflation when 32 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: all the prices kept going up and up and up, 33 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: so they raised the official cash rate because basically, the 34 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: official cash rate is the mortgage rate that your retail 35 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: bank pays, so as in your beans in there, the 36 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: OCO is their mortgage rate. So if then mortgage rate 37 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: comes down, then they can drop your mortgage rate that 38 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: you pay on your house. And that means that everyone can, 39 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: if they don't have to pay as much on their mortgage, 40 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: can spend a bit more money out there in the economy. 41 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: I have never heard anyone explain it that clearly. 42 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so that's comes down, So this is good 43 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: news for people their own houses, right, and what about 44 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Wihen you go like to buy things at supermarket things 45 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: like that doesn't mean prices will come down, or does 46 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: it mean that people maybe have more money in their 47 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: account more. 48 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: That second option, And it's not going to be immediate, right, 49 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank cut the official cash rate yesterday, It's 50 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: not like everyone goes to refix their mortgage five minutes later. 51 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: So at some point over the next six, nine, twelve 52 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: months or so, people will go and refix their mortgage. 53 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: They'll refix it lower. Therefore they'll won't have to pay 54 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: quite as much as they did before on the mortgage. 55 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: They've got a bit more cash left so that they 56 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: can spend to the shops and do whatever else. Because 57 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: basically the Reserve Bank said, look, we were spending too 58 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: much and we were generating too much inflation. They raised interstrates. Therefore, 59 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: at the moment, we're now not spending enough and no 60 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 3: one is raising prices, so we've probably overcooked it too much. 61 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: On the other side, so now they're saying, actually we 62 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: need people. We want people to spend a bit more money. 63 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: They can go and spend a bit more, so we're 64 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 3: providing a bit more relief. 65 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: Here's my question is that because inflation has come down, 66 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: it's now at three percent, which is quite low considering 67 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: what it has been everyone, and it's coming up to Christmas, 68 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: everyone is going to start spending a bit more money. 69 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: How volatile is it? Like, can OC then go back 70 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: up again? 71 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: Technically it could very unlikely at the moment because realistically 72 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: the OC is still a lot above where it sort 73 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: of should be to just have sort of normal economic functions. 74 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: So it's still going to be limiting people. And I 75 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: think going into Christmas, people are going to be barging 76 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 3: hunting a lot because people are still still worried about 77 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: their jobs, are still worried about how high interest rates are. 78 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: Someone the other days so said they wouldn't get out 79 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: of bed for anything less than a seventy percent discount 80 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: at Brisco, So you know, like it's quite big to 81 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: get you to spend. So it's good news, but it's 82 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: not immediately like we're just going to go and run 83 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: to the shops and spend it up large. It's a 84 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: bit better than before, but it's not sort of rocket 85 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: ship to the moon. 86 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: If we want some banter to say to people in 87 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: the office today, what's one line that will make us 88 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: sound like we're smart? 89 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: Oh, what's what's your pick for Novembers? Osi rcut. 90 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Okay, oh okay, I love that. 91 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: What's your peck? 92 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 93 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: What do they said to us? 94 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: And what's your pack? 95 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: That we it's tough, it's too hard to say at 96 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: the stage, or what do you think? 97 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: Look, my my peck is fifty, but there's an outside 98 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: charge of seventy five, so much bigger cat to try 99 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: and stimulate that, we'll spitting again. They didn't really set 100 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: the pigeons. 101 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. I was thinking somewhere between 102 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: fifty and seventy when you mean yeah. 103 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they really see the cadet four of the summarison, 104 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: I thought. But anyway, that was really that the cat 105 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: was getting into the pigeons. Then, Brad, thank you so 106 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: much for helping us out this morning. We really do 107 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: appreciate it. 108 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: It's a good night to talk to you. 109 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: There is a trouble in your households 110 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: Not to do with the OC