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Speaker 1: Hello there, Welcome on and to the Sports Fix, your
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Speaker 1: My name is Darcy Waldgrave. I've got you for the
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Speaker 1: We're going to kick things off with one of the
Speaker 1: legends of rugby and l tiro. His name is Wayne.
Speaker 1: His name is Buckhead. Sir Wayne Shelford, as regular as
Speaker 1: clockwork and Englishman has climbed in again to have a
Speaker 1: go at the Harker rent free in your head, Joe Marlow,
Speaker 1: what is going on with this? The man who basically
Speaker 1: reinvigorated the hark back in nineteen eighty seven. Buck Shelford
Speaker 1: joins us to talk about that. Next. I got some
Speaker 1: opinion on what I missed the most in televised sport
Speaker 1: in this age, something that I go back to my
Speaker 1: healthy in days of youth watching. Talk more about that
Speaker 1: with an opinion piece of a lut and punch you
Speaker 1: in the face. And then we are joined on Alena
Speaker 1: in the chamber by Rugby Direct co host and New
Speaker 1: Zealand Herald Sports, but more specifically rugby writer Liam Napier,
Speaker 1: as we take a look at the big sports stories
Speaker 1: of the day. That's what we've got planned for you.
Speaker 1: Thirtieth of October twenty twenty four. This is your sports fix.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it in other news time now for
Speaker 1: quickly listening to some sports people, some sports administrated, some
Speaker 1: sports alstot. The White Ferns are encouraged despite losing their
Speaker 1: One Day cricket series at two to one way to India.
Speaker 1: New Zealand word beat by six wickets. In that third match,
Speaker 1: the hosts chased down the two hundred and thirty three
Speaker 1: with thirty four balls. Despare bat Susie Bates says, are
Speaker 1: we better for the experience?
Speaker 2: We know how good we can there when we play
Speaker 2: like we did in game two and just got to
Speaker 2: do that more consistently.
Speaker 1: Reports of rugby's eminent demise might be exaggerated. The governing
Speaker 1: body claims player registrations were up six percent this season.
Speaker 1: Steve Lancaster, he's in on rugby's general manager of the
Speaker 1: community Game says one bracket stood out pleasingly.
Speaker 3: We've seen just over five ten increasing teenage boys, which
Speaker 3: is an area that is often called out as a
Speaker 3: declining area fortilation, but we're also seeing club growth across
Speaker 3: the spectrum as well.
Speaker 1: A new addition awaits New Zealand's domestic basketball leagues. The
Speaker 1: Indian Panthers, will join the men's NBL and the women's
Speaker 1: TOEHI competitions. Based in South Auckland, the franchises will feature
Speaker 1: leading players from India along with locals and overseas imports.
Speaker 1: Team owner Paving Batis has been running amateur leagues in
Speaker 1: the country since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: The conversation progress up being on the phone for about
Speaker 3: an hour and discussing the opportunity, and relatively quickly from
Speaker 3: there we got to a situation where we signed us
Speaker 3: and signed the contract a few weeks back.
Speaker 1: We've got just the ticket. It's Sports VIX. We're joined
Speaker 1: now on the program by Buck Shelford, or Sir Wayne Shelford,
Speaker 1: as is otherwise known Buck. Welcome to the program. I
Speaker 1: trust you well well to you as well. Great to
Speaker 1: have you on. But here we go again. Joe Marler
Speaker 1: fanning the flames if you will, suggesting that the harker
Speaker 1: the pre match tradition is ridiculous and it needs to
Speaker 1: be been. You can almost set your watts to it,
Speaker 1: couldn't it. The complaints coming out of the Northern Hemisphere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know if he thinks that that it's
Speaker 3: ridiculous that we're doing haka, well it's got a ridiculous
Speaker 3: study eco for his age too. You know, what do
Speaker 3: you suggested?
Speaker 1: What do they do? Because this is something that's becoming
Speaker 1: more and more prevalentobally in Rugby. I mean you look
Speaker 1: at the cippy town, the city town, the Timby in
Speaker 1: the quarter country.
Speaker 4: We've got cultures, We've got cultures down in Polynesia, Pacific Island,
Speaker 4: all the Pacific Island's got their own culture and basically
Speaker 4: we should you know, explore it, which we have for
Speaker 4: the last hundred years we've used it and basically why
Speaker 4: should we take it away?
Speaker 1: What's the reaction like globally in your experience and they're
Speaker 1: not home because we know how much we love it here,
Speaker 1: but that overseas is that embrace and accept it.
Speaker 3: Yes, I believe it is over in Japan, America, Canada,
Speaker 3: they love it. They love it because you know, they're
Speaker 3: not competitive competitives with us at the moment, you know,
Speaker 3: but down the line, in you know, twenty thirty years,
Speaker 3: they might be. They love it. I think it's only
Speaker 3: the Home Aations that don't tend to enjoy it. You know,
Speaker 3: the world give us a bit of gip on it,
Speaker 3: you know, the Irish as well. You know, the Home
Speaker 3: Nations give us that gyp. But everywhere around the rest
Speaker 3: of the world they love it. You know that's because
Speaker 3: they that we're showing the part of our culture.
Speaker 1: Part of the fallback from people. So well, no one
Speaker 1: else really gets to do it. Why do you get
Speaker 1: this advantage that's patently unfair. So besides, the haircuts.
Speaker 3: Come on at the end of the day. It's not actually,
Speaker 3: it's not something that actually unless you look at the negative, Robert,
Speaker 3: they're looking at a negative and saying, oh, they getting
Speaker 3: an extra bit of advantage by doing it. We get
Speaker 3: no advantage. Whatsoe if you haven't done your homework on
Speaker 3: the orblecks, don't say anything, and that's your problem. Don't
Speaker 3: use that as an excuse for you losing all the
Speaker 3: time to our team and something is you know, we're
Speaker 3: as good as you. Guys, are as good as us
Speaker 3: on your day, and you can beat us at any time.
Speaker 3: It's not about the hocker. It's about how you play rugby,
Speaker 3: So just get on and play rugby. Leave the other
Speaker 3: stuff alone. And basically we're there to show part of
Speaker 3: New Zealand off, which is that our hacker and all
Speaker 3: of our teams have it. All the Polynesian teams have
Speaker 3: it as well. So I think that it's brilliant. It's
Speaker 3: a great add on to to the whole ceremony of
Speaker 3: when you do basically hear your national anthems, it's just
Speaker 3: to follow on from there. And so you know, we've
Speaker 3: only just comeing to you know that had a twenty
Speaker 3: years twenty thirty years now we've been doing the national
Speaker 3: anthem and they don't say anything about that.
Speaker 1: Well you mean as in the todaial version of a
Speaker 1: national anthem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, initially back in the day, the young lady who'd
Speaker 3: done it day basically she's reprimanded for it. And this
Speaker 3: is from our own country and so he is. We've
Speaker 3: got to get with it. You know, we're actually here,
Speaker 3: we're never going to leave this place, and this is
Speaker 3: part of our culture. If you don't like it, go
Speaker 3: back to where you come from.
Speaker 1: Buckshelf for joining the program. But I'm sure that he's
Speaker 1: not doing his teammates any favor by coming out and
Speaker 1: saying this. I don't think it helps their cause at all.
Speaker 1: Does it give more strength to the arm of the
Speaker 1: New Zealanders when someone openly criticized es something like.
Speaker 3: This, No, I don't think so. Our guys are over it.
Speaker 3: You know that you get you know, you get criticized
Speaker 3: in the year if somebody size of it. And the
Speaker 3: thing is, but what do you think we get out
Speaker 3: of it? It's just it's just the hakker. We don't
Speaker 3: get any advantage from it. I tell you, it's actually
Speaker 3: how the team played on the days. That's all the
Speaker 3: advantage we can get about it. Think about is playing
Speaker 3: the game on football as hard as fast as we can,
Speaker 3: and some team's going to one team's going to come
Speaker 3: out in the winter a draw or lost. So you know,
Speaker 3: we're just going to get on with what makes us stick.
Speaker 3: And it's because we love the game of rugby. And
Speaker 3: we introduced that haker into the or Blacks many many
Speaker 3: years ago and before he was born so at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, unless you know our culture, you
Speaker 3: shouldn't be talking about it.
Speaker 1: And but look, let's talk about it. It's well known
Speaker 1: that when you turned up to the All Blacks and
Speaker 1: took over the captain saying that unbeaten perrye Wan through
Speaker 1: in the late eighties, that you revitalized the Harker. It
Speaker 1: was getting butchered, and you thought, this is something that's
Speaker 1: really important not only to Marty but to New Zealand
Speaker 1: as well. We've got to change it, we've got to
Speaker 1: give it some credibility. Did you ever think that it
Speaker 1: had caused this much trouble, like thirty forty years later.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's trouble. I think it's it's
Speaker 3: a part of our part of our history, and part
Speaker 3: of our culture. New Zealand's culture is our Maori culture.
Speaker 3: You know, all the other people come from overseas, but
Speaker 3: our culture here in New Zealand is Maori. And so
Speaker 3: thing is we're going to live with that, you know.
Speaker 3: That's that's our history of this country going back you know,
Speaker 3: seven eight hundred years, and so you know, at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, we're blended together pretty well over
Speaker 3: the years and you know, we're working together in a
Speaker 3: lot of things, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: it's only a game of sport that we're playing, and
Speaker 3: so we're adding a bit of cultural sincerity towards it
Speaker 3: on both sides, and which is basically our national anthems.
Speaker 3: We do it in two languages, South America does it
Speaker 3: in three languages, and things like that. So at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, what are you moaning about. You know,
Speaker 3: we actually get on with the game and that's the
Speaker 3: most important thing.
Speaker 1: And on that note, we'll let you go at Shelford Bucks, Shelford.
Speaker 1: Always a joy speaking to you, my friend. You look
Speaker 1: after yourself, all of it.
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Speaker 1: You know what's a bit stink. I'll tell you what's
Speaker 1: a bit stink. The lack of domestic cricket on television,
Speaker 1: on pay TV, on free to air TV. I don't care. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm getting on I'm fifty five now. But the memories
Speaker 1: I have of watching what was then the Shell Trophy
Speaker 1: and the Shell Cup on the TV when I was
Speaker 1: a young fella built my love of the game of cricket.
Speaker 1: It was a wonderful, constant product. And let's not forget
Speaker 1: what we heard on the radio two with Sports Roundup,
Speaker 1: but there was something around sitting with my mates and
Speaker 1: watching my Canterbury team doing well in the Cup and
Speaker 1: the trophy. It felt relevant. It felt now, it felt
Speaker 1: like something I would aspire to and that I would
Speaker 1: play for. We mimicked our rock stars and we're playing
Speaker 1: out in the backyard. And even then some when we
Speaker 1: started playing in schoolboy cricket and on toward club cricket.
Speaker 1: It's really sad that we don't see this anymore. Look,
Speaker 1: I get it, it's expensive, it's not cheap to cover
Speaker 1: and in some places like Sky, like TV and Z
Speaker 1: do you understand why they just won't go there because
Speaker 1: I expect it. It's not a ratings dominated sport. Yeah
Speaker 1: they've got it online. Yeah you can watch it on YouTube,
Speaker 1: but it's just not the same. It's flicking the TV on,
Speaker 1: listen to the commentators, getting the scoreboard and getting right
Speaker 1: engaged with what was a hero and that was domestic
Speaker 1: cricket here in New Zealand. I doubt it'll ever come
Speaker 1: back on the TV, but I'll tell you what if
Speaker 1: it does. I'm in one hundred percent. Go on, make
Speaker 1: it happen.
Speaker 2: The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax's.
Speaker 1: Been joined by Liam Napier. He's a writer for New
Speaker 1: Zealand here when it comes to sport, and of course
Speaker 1: co hosts as well of the Rugby Direct podcast. Great
Speaker 1: do you have you in the chamber, mister Napier? I
Speaker 1: trust you all. Well.
Speaker 2: Great to see dus, Great to be here.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that we had to start things off with rugby,
Speaker 1: but you know you are rugby dude, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: we've got an opinion on this. You can almost saying
Speaker 1: to Buck Shelford, you'd almost set your watch to this,
Speaker 1: couldn't you some Englishman or Welshman or something complaining about
Speaker 1: the hakka. It's almost beyond a joke. Do not realize
Speaker 1: how stupid they sound.
Speaker 2: It's a rugby bingo card does every time the All
Speaker 2: Blacks go to Twickenham, we're talking about the hacker. And
Speaker 2: for that reason, it's a story that puts me to
Speaker 2: sleep or makes me yawn or you know, flick the
Speaker 2: leg over and not want anything to do with it
Speaker 2: because it is a very very tired narrative and the
Speaker 2: frustration for me is if you don't understand the cultural significance,
Speaker 2: don't comment on.
Speaker 1: It, living rent free. And someone said him and this
Speaker 1: is a classic case of anything this must torment the
Speaker 1: likes of Joe Mahler and everyone else that complaints if
Speaker 1: they wake up in a cold sweat and le go
Speaker 1: not they coma there hager. It's all like carbo or pungla.
Speaker 1: What are we going to do? That's what it says
Speaker 1: to me. It says fear, and it says in your
Speaker 1: head already, never do any We're not even there yet.
Speaker 2: That's it. And look, the hucker is part of the
Speaker 2: theater of rugby, of sports. And if you think back
Speaker 2: to the twenty nineteen World Cup semi final that England
Speaker 2: won and they've formed the the V shaped formation that's
Speaker 2: set the scene for that English team to have their triumph.
Speaker 2: And we've seen countless examples of that. It's a very
Speaker 2: integral fabric of the All Blacks stories throughout the years
Speaker 2: of the All Blacks having to do the Houcker and
Speaker 2: the changing rooms in Cardiff. So look for me. Joe
Speaker 2: Marler is not involved and this English team, he's searching
Speaker 2: for relevance, searching for to keep his name out there.
Speaker 1: Clickbait, clickbait, look.
Speaker 2: At me, hear me? And he since deleted the tweets,
Speaker 2: so he clearly didn't like.
Speaker 1: I think he's deleted his whole account, isn't he. That's it.
Speaker 2: He didn't like the feedback. So, and that's what happens
Speaker 2: when you when you have spoken views in this world.
Speaker 2: And you'd know that as much as anyone. We all
Speaker 2: know about feedback, don't we. But yeah, I can't get
Speaker 2: on board with it. And it's a very very tired narrative.
Speaker 1: Now. It doesn't almost feel bad bringing it up, but
Speaker 1: you know it's there to talk about. So yeah, kind
Speaker 1: of well and see and going on about the Thinby
Speaker 1: or Sipitaw or the City Tower. I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: just New Zealand, right, is it? Because they're not Tier
Speaker 1: one nations.
Speaker 2: Well, look, put it this way. Should we talk about
Speaker 2: Swing Low Sweet Chariot and the origins of that and
Speaker 2: how that should be outlawed?
Speaker 1: We could talk all day. There's plenty more as well,
Speaker 1: but we just, like part get in the corner and go, yeah, Joe,
Speaker 1: you need a new line, you really do. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the actual teams itself and that this is the
Speaker 1: interesting thing, Like the All Black side is not out yet,
Speaker 1: but we know what the English are doing. Marcus Smith.
Speaker 1: This guy's a threat.
Speaker 2: Right, He's a real talent and a very attacking minded
Speaker 2: verse five who has come through the ranks in England
Speaker 2: and I won't go as far as say change the
Speaker 2: game in England, but has reshaped their mindset because they
Speaker 2: had a guy like Owen Farrell who was very good
Speaker 2: at what he brought to the game, good defensively, great kicker,
Speaker 2: good goalkicker. But Marcus Smith brings that ear of unpredictability.
Speaker 2: He's got great feet, he's small, he's fast, got very
Speaker 2: good vision. So he brings a very different dynamic to
Speaker 2: the English game. And we have seen this English team
Speaker 2: evolve in recent times and play more rugby and he's
Speaker 2: a big part of that.
Speaker 1: Well, you said unpredictability, and I think there's a key thing.
Speaker 1: Then when you've got a pivot and you're not quite
Speaker 1: sure what he's going to do, and you know he
Speaker 1: has the skills and the talent to gas you on
Speaker 1: the outside, will steep you on the inside, that adds
Speaker 1: a bit of flavor to then of course he can
Speaker 1: pick off a couple of us very talented wings too
Speaker 1: with a deft kick. So it does add an extra
Speaker 1: layer to the proceedings and I think we should be
Speaker 1: excited by this.
Speaker 2: We should. I wouldn't go as far as say this
Speaker 2: is a revolution though, because I think we know how
Speaker 2: Engler and are going to play. They've named a six
Speaker 2: to two bench with six forwards, so the nuts and
Speaker 2: bolts of their game are still there. They're still going
Speaker 2: to be a set piece orientated, They're still going to
Speaker 2: kick a lot, but with Marcus there it does bring
Speaker 2: a different dimension. Georgia Ford's on the bench, so very
Speaker 2: experienced head, steady hands. A bit of an insurance policy
Speaker 2: if things are not going well Marcus Smith and Dunedin
Speaker 2: first test for Razor Robinson missed a couple of kicks
Speaker 2: off the tee and if he slotted those England would
Speaker 2: have won. That was a one point victory for the
Speaker 2: All Blacks. So a bit of an insurance policy in
Speaker 2: George Ford. But from the outset the All Blacks will
Speaker 2: have to be on defensively because of Marcus Smith goes
Speaker 2: he can break you open.
Speaker 1: If you want to read more about that, Liam was
Speaker 1: all over New Zealand here more of us theories, more
Speaker 1: of his ideas climb on board Indyhill dot co dot
Speaker 1: ind It's finishing things off with a interesting tale of
Speaker 1: Indian basketball. We had hands of this earlier in the peace,
Speaker 1: but this has almost come out of nowhere, the fact
Speaker 1: that there's suddenly going to be an Indian men's and
Speaker 1: an Indian women's team playing in the Sales NBL. What
Speaker 1: was instinctive Field when you read that?
Speaker 2: What a I remember reading about it a good month
Speaker 2: ago and thinking and now that it's coming to fruition.
Speaker 2: That's one of the more bizarre stories in New Zealand
Speaker 2: sport at the moment. And we've got a lot of
Speaker 2: success happening, but this is incredibly intriguing. Why is the question?
Speaker 2: Is it about money? Because I did a bit of
Speaker 2: reading around the Stars and the Indian Basketball League. It
Speaker 2: only really lasted for one year of five on five.
Speaker 2: They had a bit of three on three. Then there
Speaker 2: was an apparent falling out with the national body and
Speaker 2: now there's a bit of legal dispute in the background.
Speaker 2: So where is the interest for the New Zealand basketball
Speaker 2: public in bringing in an Indian franchise. It doesn't make
Speaker 2: a lot of sense on the surface, does it?
Speaker 1: Well, if you're being cynical, you'd say this could be
Speaker 1: a cash grab because there's one point four billion bodies
Speaker 1: living in India, half of them are under twenty five.
Speaker 1: Basketball is a global game, so maybe it's just like
Speaker 1: can we tap into this? But i'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: It's bringing some interest to sales NBL next season, some
Speaker 1: more another level, how far from now? What next?
Speaker 2: Well, that's it and do you risk not killing the
Speaker 2: Golden goose? But basketball's having a massive boom in New Zealand,
Speaker 2: isn't it? And the NBA is a great example of that.
Speaker 2: How much interest is he going to be from, you know,
Speaker 2: the nuky public to go along and watch an Indian
Speaker 2: team compared to playing one or two. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Let's see how it plays out, but it's certainly intriguing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is the one out of a boxing on
Speaker 1: that limb. A Napier sports writer, Rugby specialist, Rugby Direct
Speaker 1: podcast co host, Thanks for coming in to the studio.
Speaker 1: Great to have you on board.
Speaker 2: Great said does.
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