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Speaker 1: The news fold opinions, Heather Duplicy Allen on the Mike

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs.

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Speaker 2: Had been.

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Speaker 3: Till lad morning and welcome coming up today. The Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister is making four hundred and eighty thousand dollars at

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Speaker 3: the sale of two of his properties. Why are we

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Speaker 3: will chat in about it. We'll get infrastructuring New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: take on how much they're loving the building focus the

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Speaker 3: government is on for the rest of this year, or

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Speaker 3: through his mayor on where the council should get a

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Speaker 3: share of that new tourism money. And also Catherine Field and.

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Speaker 4: Rob Little, Heather Duplicity Allen.

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Speaker 3: So we've got a fascination with prime ministers and their money,

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Speaker 3: it turns out, and Last News One last night One

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Speaker 3: News did the calculation that Christopher Luxen stands to make

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Speaker 3: four hundred and eighty thousand dollars off the sale of

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Speaker 3: his apartment in Wellington. He's moving out because he's going

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Speaker 3: over to Premier House, and also also a rental property

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Speaker 3: that he's selling in South Auckland. Now the implication of

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Speaker 3: the story was basically Christoph Luck's making too much money

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Speaker 3: a newspaper in Wellington also reported that Jacinda Ardern is

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Speaker 3: earning three hundred and sixteen thousand dollars per appearance every

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Speaker 3: implication there was certainly in commentary afterwards, that it's unethical

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Speaker 3: by showing that she really does love money over doing

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Speaker 3: good after all, and if Prome ministers keep on doing

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Speaker 3: stuff like this, how do we know that they're actually

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Speaker 3: earn afterwards. Now, look, I don't mind the fascination with

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Speaker 3: prime minister's and former prime minister's earnings. I think it's

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Speaker 3: completely human nature to be into it. And well, we're

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Speaker 3: fascinated by what our colleagues earned, right, so why wouldn't

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Speaker 3: we be fascinated by what Luxin and Arderne earn. However,

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Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with Jasinda Ardun earning that much money

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Speaker 3: was a well paid businessman before politics. You would expect

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Speaker 3: him to have plenty of money. You would expect him

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Speaker 3: to put some of that money into property, and unless

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Speaker 3: things have gone very bad for him in his calculations,

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Speaker 3: especially one that he has apparently renovated. Nothing wrong here

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Speaker 3: to suggest that Luckson's capital gain on his property is

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Speaker 3: evidence that we need a capital gains tax And to

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Speaker 3: suggest that just in this speaking circuit means that we

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Speaker 3: future Prome ministers is just taking it a bit far,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. I mean, it's fine to be fascinated. Just

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Speaker 4: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: Well, the US aren't mourning Nozrala. Here's blinken.

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Speaker 5: Hassan Israla was a brutal terrorist who's many victims included Americans, Israelis,

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Speaker 5: civilians in Lebanon, the region, the world are safer without him.

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Speaker 3: So far, the strikes on Lebanon I said to have

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Speaker 3: displaced a million people.

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Speaker 6: They need shelter, they need a place to stay, and

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Speaker 6: we still have many people sleeping on the streets. They

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Speaker 3: The other conflict that Israel's involved in. This man is

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Speaker 3: a brother in law to one of Hamasa's UK hostages.

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Speaker 3: He wants to make sure they aren't losing focus.

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Speaker 7: People ask me.

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Speaker 6: How I am, how I'm bearing up.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm tired, so so tired.

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Speaker 8: Every day without a home safe is like an added

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Speaker 8: weight to my shoulders.

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Speaker 3: Hurricane Helen's death toll is now more than one hundred.

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Speaker 3: This is the situation in North Carolina.

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Speaker 9: We just got an update from Buoncambi County here, which

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Speaker 9: giving updates. Here's the headlines right now. The shelters are

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Speaker 9: full at capacity here. They're asking people to just sit tight.

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Speaker 3: Josies, don't worry. He's on his way to help.

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Speaker 10: I'm competed to traveling to the impacted areas as soon

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Speaker 10: as part Well, I've been told that disruptive if I

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Speaker 10: did it right now. We will not do that at

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Speaker 10: the risk of diverting or delaying any any of the

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Speaker 3: Do you remember those two astronauts who are stuck up

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Speaker 11: I missed my two dogs, I miss my friends. But

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Speaker 11: you know what, there are so many people Honor that

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Speaker 11: are sending us messages and it makes you feel just

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Speaker 3: And finally got a bit of good news for all

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Speaker 3: of you coffee drinkers. We have found the daily amount

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Speaker 3: the perfect one. Researchers in China looked at data from

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Speaker 3: the UK Biobank, which is figures from about half a

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Speaker 3: risk of developing things like diabetes or cardiovascular disease. In fact,

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Speaker 3: the risk drops by half compared to those who drink

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Speaker 3: less than one cup of coffee a day. Leader get

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Speaker 3: it in. Yeah, and that is the news of the

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Speaker 3: having to think about choosing a successor for Hassan Nazraela,

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Speaker 3: Here the one news didn't allow for the realistate agent fees.

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Speaker 3: it was completely inaccurate. I'm sorry, but this has nothing

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Speaker 3: That's from Kurston Right now, it's sixteen past set Andrew

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Speaker 3: klahoef JM I Wealth is with us. Hello Andrew, morning, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Now what are you making of that am ze business confidence?

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Speaker 12: Well, here's a This is a conundrum, isn't it. This

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Speaker 12: is a conundrum because we're getting this this gloomy picture

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Speaker 4: It's soaring, it's through the roof.

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Speaker 12: And this is sort of despite the fact that we're

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Speaker 12: You're seeing a big squeeze on discretionary spending. And Heather,

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Speaker 12: we've got the probability that right now we're probably in

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Speaker 13: So what's going on.

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Speaker 12: One of the numbers well AINSID Business Outlook released yesterday's

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Speaker 4: So people are asked.

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Speaker 12: The question people ask Heather is will things get better

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Speaker 12: or if you know, are things going to get better? Well,

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Speaker 12: they were so negative that getting better doesn't mean that

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Speaker 12: What are the implications there? I think this will give

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Speaker 13: There's a lot of detail in that.

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Speaker 12: If that's telling a similar story, it adds more weight

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Speaker 3: the Japanese share markets loving the new incoming prime minister.

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Speaker 12: No, they did not like Shuguru Asheba coming in at all.

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Speaker 13: Share market didn't like that though. But did you see

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Speaker 12: Yes today head it did you see that?

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Speaker 12: got absolute rocket under them. Shanghai composite gained almost thirteen

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Speaker 3: How are you gonna love this? Council's want more money,

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Speaker 3: be waiting at least ten years to find new gas. Now,

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Speaker 3: of course repealing the oil and gas exploration ban at

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Speaker 3: the moment. In submissions on that close today and Resources

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Speaker 3: what do you reckon the chances aren't. These guys are right,

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Speaker 19: Oh, I have a long term view about this. We're

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Speaker 19: was an attempt to close down the gas industry, and

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Speaker 19: we didn't like that. I don't want to see it

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Speaker 3: No, No, I agree with you on that, But I mean,

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Speaker 19: Well through the entire system Sadly, over the last six

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Speaker 19: our industry and make sure that we put new Zealand first,

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Speaker 3: Shane, what makes up these ten years? I mean, is

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Speaker 3: this because we know there's gas out there right, We

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Speaker 3: it take ten years to get it out of the ground.

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Speaker 3: As part of that you having to convince them to

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Speaker 19: Yeah, part of it is the confidence that was dented

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Speaker 19: a problem has been the uncertainty going forward. If they

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Speaker 19: which is we've got to explore ways of protecting people's rights.

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Speaker 19: It's absurd that you and I are even having this discussion,

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Speaker 3: Youre right, Hallison? What about those protesters yesterday? Why do

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Speaker 19: Shane actually went for a haircut and then Rodney Wayne's

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Speaker 19: my appointment had been postponed. Look, they were initially at

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Speaker 3: You were enjoying it though, a because you stopped and

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Speaker 19: Yeah, but I mean, I think Key, we want to

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Speaker 3: Shane, good on you more of it, Thanks very much

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Speaker 4: Do to see Ellen?

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Speaker 8: Why not?

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Speaker 3: It was quite fun to watch that. Hey, in the

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Speaker 11: Have you read down to press the finding out Federal

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Speaker 3: What's the biggett called for?

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Speaker 7: Jennie Man and then to me, I think JD is

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Speaker 7: going to do great. Is a very smart guy. He's

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Speaker 19: People like them a lot, and he's against Tampa and Jim.

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Speaker 7: I think, oh, I don't think should have ever been chosen.

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Speaker 3: I'm loving Shane Jones, who was at the moment just

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Speaker 3: because he's He's just wild, isn't he? And it's quite

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Speaker 3: fun listen. Some good has come from the winging in

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Speaker 3: the morning about Oasis and the dynamic pricing and so

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Speaker 3: ditch the dynamic pricing for the US tour, which means hopefully,

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Speaker 3: nobody else gets stung with those ridiculous prices. It's called

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Speaker 8: International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 14: Hello, Hey, good morning, Heather.

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Speaker 3: days wrapped up. How the first day go, Well.

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Speaker 15: It was actually extraordinary, Heather, because not only did we

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Speaker 15: see that far right leader of the French National Ralligh

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Speaker 15: Marine la Penne, coming into the top, but also twenty

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Speaker 15: four other members of her party, all of them on

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Speaker 15: trial for accused of embezzling European parliamentary funds.

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Speaker 14: They all have pleaded not guilty.

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Speaker 15: What it relates to, Heather, is right back in two

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Speaker 15: thousand and four, when it was then the National Front

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Speaker 15: was really starting to get going in politics. It was

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Speaker 15: getting members into the European Parliament, but they didn't really

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Speaker 15: have the money to be able to operate properly here

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Speaker 15: in France. So what they did was, or what they're

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Speaker 15: accused of doing, is taking some of the money that

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Speaker 15: was given to them for operating in the European Parliament

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Speaker 15: and used it to give jobs, contracts and all sorts

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Speaker 15: of work to parliamentary assistants who worked for the actual

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Speaker 15: party here in Paris, rather than non European parliamentary matters.

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Speaker 14: So the sums are quite exceptional.

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Speaker 15: About five and a half million New Zealand dollars is

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Speaker 15: how much they're accused of diverting. They've already paid back

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Speaker 15: about a quarter, just every quarter of that. But they

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Speaker 15: did say that does not mean that they are guilty

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Speaker 15: of this. But of course it comes really bad time

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Speaker 15: for her because this could really derail her presidential ambitions.

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Speaker 15: She seems to think that she's in for a chance,

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Speaker 15: last chance in twenty twenty seven when the French presidential

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Speaker 15: elections and next jury take place. Of course, if she's

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Speaker 15: found guilty of embusiment, she could be not only sentenced

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Speaker 15: to prison term, but also the court could hand down

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Speaker 15: her right to stand for elected office. That would last

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Speaker 15: for about ten years.

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Speaker 3: Yep, quite a long double that would put it. That

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Speaker 3: would dash her hopes of any kind of leadership position

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Speaker 3: in politics, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 14: Oh, that would pretty much be the end of it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: To come back from that that, they said she was

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Speaker 14: quite honest in court. She said, look, we have not

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Speaker 14: violated any rules. I will be here.

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Speaker 15: I will defend not just myself but also the way

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Speaker 15: the party was. So I think they've also been saying

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Speaker 15: over the years there's this case. It's turned through because

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Speaker 15: it relates to what two thousand and four to twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 14: They're saying.

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Speaker 15: The problem is party financing. All the parties are doing that.

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Speaker 15: It's just you think we're the only ones doing it.

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Speaker 15: And so again we hear them playing the victim character.

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Speaker 15: You're only picking on us because we're the far right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, Cathern. Now you guys have obviously got

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Speaker 3: yourselves a government and a prime minister. Finally, do you

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Speaker 3: think it's going to hold? This is the question?

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Speaker 15: Right, Well, that's right, the seventh of July, when those

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Speaker 15: elections are held, seen such a long time ago, doesn't Batiers.

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Speaker 14: There is the prime minister and the government.

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Speaker 15: And on Tuesday, the Prime Minister, Michelle Vanier will have

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Speaker 15: the sort of inaugural statement to the House. The French

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Speaker 15: parliament will get to hear him set out his policy

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Speaker 15: priorities will at last who knows, who knows? Apparently he's

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Speaker 15: going to announce all sorts of rises and taxes. He's

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Speaker 15: going to talk about cutting some public services. It is

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Speaker 15: a minority government, it is a very right wing government.

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Speaker 15: Considering that they also considering that majority of people voted

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Speaker 15: for the center or left candidates.

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Speaker 14: Will he survives.

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Speaker 15: Well, he's clearly quite concerned about it because usually after

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Speaker 15: the Prime Minister sets out the policy priorities for the

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Speaker 15: next year, they put.

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Speaker 14: It to the vote in Parliament.

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Speaker 15: Now he's said, and constitutionally he's allowed to do that.

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Speaker 15: He said, there will be no vote in parliament for

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Speaker 15: his speech.

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Speaker 3: How much do you reckon the Pope hated his trip

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Speaker 3: to Belgium.

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Speaker 14: Oh, I think he just hated it. He hated every

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Speaker 14: minute of the heather. He clearly misjudged the murder.

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Speaker 15: He came to Belgium and to Luxembourg thinking and hoping

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Speaker 15: he will get quite a good response, well aware of

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Speaker 15: course that Europe has become so much more secular over

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Speaker 15: the last few decades, and also that there has been

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Speaker 15: this constant question mark of whether the Vatican and whether

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Speaker 15: the Church itself in Belgium has shown enough sorrow, has

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Speaker 15: acted enough in all these allegations of sexual abuse. Now,

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Speaker 15: what was two things particularly very embarrassing for him?

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Speaker 2: Hew?

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Speaker 15: That one was the Belgian Prime Minister and the Belgian

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Speaker 15: King both publicly asked the Pope to understand those who

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Speaker 15: had suffered sexual abuse at the hands of the clergy.

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Speaker 15: There was also criticism that the Vatican had not moved

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Speaker 15: quickly enough on the then Bishop of Bruges, who retired

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Speaker 15: in twenty ten after admitting sexual abusing his nephew.

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Speaker 14: He was only defrault this year. And then, of course

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Speaker 14: the Pope.

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Speaker 15: Went to Belgium to celebrate, if you like, six hundred

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Speaker 15: years of the famous Catholic University and Live, and two

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Speaker 15: of the rectors stood up and made speeches criticizing the

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Speaker 15: Catholic Church, saying that they needed to do more to

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Speaker 15: have a role for women within the church, they needed

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Speaker 15: to do more for LGBT Catholics and also you're just

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Speaker 15: saying you have to do more. So the Pope left

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Speaker 15: went home. Apparently on the way home on the plane

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Speaker 15: he described doctors who carry out abortions as hitmen. So

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Speaker 15: you clearly did not listen to any of the words

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Speaker 15: that were spoken to him during his and Belgium.

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Speaker 3: Is probably happy to be out of there. Hey, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much. Catherine always appreciated as Catherine Field correspondent

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Speaker 3: from France. John Key, by the way, has weighed in

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Speaker 3: on the US election, has given an interview and given

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Speaker 3: us as thought. So it's as quite some interesting points

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Speaker 3: Six away from seven. I'll tell you what new book

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Speaker 3: about Elon Musk is going to be coming out soon,

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Speaker 3: and it sounds absolutely fascinating if you're into kind of

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Speaker 3: working out how somebody like Elon Musk, quite a controversial

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Speaker 3: the thing is completely unusable now. It's just it's hideous

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Speaker 3: else completely clearly, judging by reviews of the book, Elon

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Speaker 3: Musk is obviously something of a genius. If you didn't

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Speaker 3: already know this, because I mean example that they use

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Speaker 3: see the impact that the Internet would have on media,

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Speaker 3: Internet would have, and some of them are still struggling

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Speaker 3: to come to terms with that, he could see it

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Speaker 3: as far back as nineteen ninety eight, he said, I

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Speaker 3: all of media. And how right has he proved to be?

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Speaker 3: But obviously flawed character, completely obsessed with his own popularity

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Speaker 3: and impact, obsessed with becoming the most followed person on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: like if he had any followers tailing off or whatever,

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Speaker 3: he'd launch investigations trying to figure out what was going

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Speaker 3: out how on earth this had happened to him. That

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Speaker 3: is how crazy this guy is character limit, How Elon

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Speaker 3: must destroyed Twitter? How good is that?

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Speaker 1: It's the fiz with business Fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level?

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Speaker 3: Righty, you got the latest centric start of for you

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Speaker 3: this morning. Their credit indicator numbers for August, the number

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Speaker 3: of consumers behind on payments has increased slightly to four

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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty one thousand of us now. To put

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Speaker 3: that in perspective, that is twelve point three percent of

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Speaker 3: the population got active credit at the moment. That's six

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Speaker 3: percent higher year on year, and those areas are expected

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Speaker 3: to continue to go higher in late spring early summer.

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Speaker 3: New credit card applications have risen to their highest numbers

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Speaker 3: since November twenty twenty one, which shows us that people

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Speaker 3: are looking at alternative ways to handle payments and purchases.

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Speaker 3: Financial hardship cases are up in a big way, with

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Speaker 3: amount of people and personal financial strife up twenty four

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Speaker 3: percent year on year. On the business credit side of things,

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Speaker 3: credit defaults are up five percent across all industries. There

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Speaker 3: is some good news kind of. It's known within the

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Speaker 3: industry that when people are struggling, more often than not,

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Speaker 3: the first thing you fall behind it on is your

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Speaker 3: car payments. But vehicle loan areas are at six percent,

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Speaker 3: which is unchanged year on year, so it's not getting

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Speaker 3: any worse at least, So there's some good news in

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Speaker 3: there somewhere. Right after the news, we're gonna have a

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Speaker 3: chat to Nick Legett, Infrastructure New Zealand CEO and what

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Speaker 3: he makes of the government's plan to get building in

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Speaker 3: the next what three months through to the end of

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Speaker 3: the year, and also should councils get any more of

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Speaker 3: that tourism money or are any it all? We'll speak

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Speaker 3: to all tou Is Mayor Tanya Tapsle about that. Quarter

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Speaker 3: past seven. News Dogs d.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic Hosking breakfast with the

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Speaker 3: Good morning to you. Infrastructure looks like it's going to

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Speaker 3: be the government's focus for what is left of this year.

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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister released his Quarter four action Plan yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Plenty of the targets are focused on getting things built

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Speaker 3: and infrastructure. New Zealand CEO Nick Leggat is with us now.

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Speaker 3: Hey Nick, Hey, it feels to me like the most

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Speaker 3: important thing on that list infrastructure wise, is passing the

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Speaker 3: Fast Track Approvals Bill. What do you think?

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Speaker 16: I think that is definitely a biggie that will help

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Speaker 16: unlock and speed up infrastructure projects that might otherwise have

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Speaker 16: sat around for a long time. But then you can't

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Speaker 16: ignore the replacements to the RAMA. You can't ignore the

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Speaker 16: National Infrastructure Agency, which is going to be that shop

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Speaker 16: front for foreign direct investment and then those funding and

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Speaker 16: financing tools to get more housing built. It is going

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Speaker 16: to be really important as well. Hither there's a lot there.

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Speaker 16: I guess that's the message and the government with infrastructure,

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Speaker 16: it's obviously a long term game, but you need the

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Speaker 16: settings and the policies to unlock infrastructure at every step,

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Speaker 16: whether it's funding it, designing, planning and actually delivering it.

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Speaker 16: And the government are in this position where they've got

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Speaker 16: a walk in cheu gum. At the same time, the

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Speaker 16: system needs work. That's because New Zealand doesn't have a

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Speaker 16: coherent system. That's actually not the fault of any government,

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Speaker 16: but we've got to have a coherent system that works together.

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Speaker 16: So they've got to do the system changes and then

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Speaker 16: they've got to keep getting the projects into the market

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Speaker 16: and building the things that they said they would and

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Speaker 16: building those projects that are going to help make New

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Speaker 16: Zealand more productive and improve our economy.

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Speaker 3: Now, given the upset and horde off anywhere at the moment,

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Speaker 3: how do you think the tolling plans are going to

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Speaker 3: go down?

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Speaker 16: Well, look, I think there is We're going to need

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Speaker 16: to change our mindset on tolling if we want things,

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Speaker 16: there isn't this magical money theory that's going to come

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Speaker 16: down from the sky and just deliver them. We are

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Speaker 16: in a tight fiscal position, but it is also about

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Speaker 16: fairness and equity and those that use these in this

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Speaker 16: case roads should pay a little bit more for those.

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Speaker 16: What we do in New Zealand is that we tend

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Speaker 16: to build stuff and then forget about it. And what

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Speaker 16: we know is that internationally we're in the bottom four

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Speaker 16: countries of the OECD in terms of the way we

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Speaker 16: manage our assets, and so we don't renew, we don't maintain.

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Speaker 16: I think Key Wes can feel that with things like

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Speaker 16: roads and water. So actually taking some money aside every

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Speaker 16: year from the users of a road, and you know,

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Speaker 16: putting that towards either the capital cost or maintenance and

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Speaker 16: repairs and renewal will actually go a hell of a

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Speaker 16: long way to keeping these assets fit for purpose over time.

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Speaker 16: We've got to take this longer term view of the

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Speaker 16: country and yeah, it is going to take a shift

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Speaker 16: in mindset. But if we want these things, you know,

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Speaker 16: we've got to learn that that we've got to pay

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Speaker 16: for them out of our own pockets as we go.

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Speaker 3: As well, Nick, really quickly, do you have a view

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Speaker 3: on whydn Eden's hospital has blown out the way?

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Speaker 19: Does?

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Speaker 3: Is this a problem with the contractor.

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Speaker 16: No, These problems tend to be right from the outset

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Speaker 16: header when you know the way the project was shaped

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Speaker 16: and structured. From the outset. They didn't link the design

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Speaker 16: and the builders together, which they should have done. And

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Speaker 16: you're seeing that planet there, but you know it's like

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Speaker 16: it's like anything. There are multiple reasons, you know, obviously

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Speaker 16: an obsession with where it was cited, lots of detail

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Speaker 16: that added cost that probably if a rational human was

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Speaker 16: looking at it, we go, oh, we don't really need that.

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Speaker 16: I think that we've got to get in better to

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Speaker 16: standardization in this country across everything we build buildings, roads, bridges,

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Speaker 16: whatever it might be, because if you can, if you

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Speaker 16: can standardize a design more often, it's much easier and

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Speaker 16: cheaper to produce and you're not compromising standards.

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Speaker 3: That's a fair point. Hey, thank you, Nick, appreciate. It's

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Speaker 3: an a leiget of infrastructure New Zealand. By the way,

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Speaker 3: on the Dunedin hospital, obviously Chris Lux and the Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister with us after half past.

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Speaker 4: Six together dup ZL on past seven.

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Speaker 3: Now it could be a life changing day for thousands

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Speaker 3: across the country today because a range of sort after

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Speaker 3: medicines are going to be available from FARMAC, including of

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Speaker 3: a key truder. And joining us now is the Cancer

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Speaker 3: Society CEO Nicola Kumme Nikolain.

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Speaker 20: Good morning morning, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been counting down to today.

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Speaker 20: Oh, absolutely, today is significant for us So many families

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Speaker 20: across our country and well overdo.

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Speaker 3: Are there people who have literally been waiting to get

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Speaker 3: the drug key true to the one that everybody wants

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Speaker 3: to get their hands on. Are there people who've literally

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Speaker 3: been waiting and will today be able to get it

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Speaker 3: and weren't able to yesterday?

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Speaker 20: Absolutely they've done only in waiting, but some of them

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Speaker 20: have also been self funding, mortgaging their homes, traveling outside

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Speaker 20: of our country. So today is life changing and more

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Speaker 20: importantly life extending for these families. This will give these

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Speaker 20: families more time.

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Speaker 3: Of all the things that this government has done, I

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Speaker 3: would put boosting farmac's budget right up there as one

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Speaker 3: of the most important. What do you think.

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Speaker 20: Couldn't agree with you more? Couldn't agree with you more?

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Speaker 20: And look, some that have come under a lot of

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Speaker 20: criticism over the last few years. Been one of those people.

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Speaker 20: But it is very difficult to invest in cancer jokes

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Speaker 20: when you don't have when you don't have the funding.

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Speaker 20: So this is a significant investment of what I understand,

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Speaker 20: it's the largest of its kind ever in New Zealand.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, absolutely life changing, brilliant.

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Speaker 3: Very very happy for you guys. I thank you very much. Nicola.

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Speaker 3: That's Nicola Kub of the Cancer Society.

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Speaker 4: Ever do to see Allen.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing to keep out for today. Three hours

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Speaker 3: from our round about ten o'clock, en Zier is going

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Speaker 3: to put out its quarterly survey of business opinion. Now

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Speaker 3: why this is important is because this is going to

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Speaker 3: give us a clue Andrew Keller, who was talking about

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Speaker 3: this earlier on, It's going to give us a clue

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Speaker 3: as to what the Reserve Bank does next week with

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Speaker 3: the official cash rate. The feeling is if we are

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Speaker 3: too upbeat in the survey, given how upbeat we were

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Speaker 3: in the A and Z survey which was put out yesterday,

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Speaker 3: if we're too upbeat in two of these surveys, both

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Speaker 3: of them, it might move the Reserve Bank to only

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Speaker 3: cut the official cash rate by twenty five basis points.

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Speaker 3: If we're not too upbeat, if we're still showing signs

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Speaker 3: that we're pretty gloomy and stuff, they will lean more

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Speaker 3: towards fifty basis points because basically they don't want to

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Speaker 3: overcook it in the other direction. Right, they've gone too

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Speaker 3: hard in crushing the economy. They now don't want to

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Speaker 3: free it up too fast. So if we're just going

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Speaker 3: to be like fizzing, absolute already fizzing, and then they

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Speaker 3: give us another fifty and then we're really peaking, that's

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Speaker 3: not what they wanted. Also, keep an eye on at

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Speaker 3: ten o'clock, as I say, fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: Seven, the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: That'd be right at sixteen past seven. So the international

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Speaker 3: visitor levy went up today. Yesterday it costs tourists thirty

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Speaker 3: five bucks to enter the country. Today it's going to

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Speaker 3: sting them one hundred bucks. And now councils want to

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Speaker 3: share of that new money. In fact, I mean, let's

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Speaker 3: put this honestly, they want all of that new money.

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Speaker 3: It all to do is mayor Tanya tapsle is with us. Now, Hey, Tanya,

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Speaker 3: good morning, councils are dreaming, aren't they?

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Speaker 2: Tania, I, I've got to try, We've got to try. Look,

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Speaker 2: can I congratulate our ministers of Tourism and Conservation on

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Speaker 2: finding a way to increase investment into tourism. But you know,

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Speaker 2: councils are the ones that actually invest in this infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: That's our local players. I think it's fair enough to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: can you share the love?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I can see that, and there'll be

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Speaker 3: a lot of sympathy for that if you were to

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Speaker 3: if they were to come around to the idea of

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Speaker 3: giving you the sixty five bucks, which is obviously not

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Speaker 3: going to happen, how would you share that any case?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, for us, it's back to basics. So for

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Speaker 2: a government that's asking us to invest in orders and

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Speaker 2: core infrastructure, it's things like public toilets. But you know,

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Speaker 2: even a Mackenzie district just to clean the public toilets

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Speaker 2: used by tourists added one percent to this year's rate spill.

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Speaker 2: So it is quite significant for us to maintain these

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Speaker 2: facilities and also the environment that tourists use.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The difficulty that you guys have got, obviously is

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Speaker 3: that councils not necessarily yours time. Yeah, but other councils

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Speaker 3: are doing quite a good job of telling the public

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Speaker 3: that you guys don't know how to spend money. Would

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Speaker 3: you accept that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would accept that. It is doing pretty good child,

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Speaker 2: But other places we haven't seen great investment in infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: But the reality is we don't get enough money to

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Speaker 2: do so we rely on our local community.

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Speaker 3: Here's the difficulty, right, If you guys aren't getting enough money,

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Speaker 3: and I accept you don't have enough money, then how

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Speaker 3: on earth have you got councils like Hasting's District Council

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Speaker 3: deciding to give unelected youth voting rights and paying them

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Speaker 3: for that right. How have you got councils like Wellington

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Speaker 3: City Council deciding to spend about six hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: on redesigning the footpath for a bi crack. If you

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Speaker 3: don't have enough money, you shouldn't have enough money for

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Speaker 3: that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, the important thing is the request will be ring fenced.

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Speaker 2: So we're saying international visitor levey, if you give us

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Speaker 2: a share of that, it will be ring fence for

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Speaker 2: tourism infrastructure only, which is a pretty massive issue for

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Speaker 2: many of us. So in odor to our populations, what

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Speaker 2: almost eighty thousand. We get over ten thousand visitors a

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Speaker 2: day when we're in our peak season, So it makes

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Speaker 2: sense for us to not burden our local communities, which

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Speaker 2: some of our communities across the country that get a

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Speaker 2: lot of tourists do not actually highly populated areas, which

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Speaker 2: is one of the big concerns. And we're just saying, hey, look,

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Speaker 2: instead of just getting sucked up into conservation areas is

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Speaker 2: potentially preer to programs on remote islands in places. Let's

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Speaker 2: just make sure there's transparency on where the money goes.

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Speaker 2: Local councils can help with that.

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Speaker 3: How do you rate your chances.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a go.

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Speaker 20: We got to give it a go.

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Speaker 2: I think it's an important issue. We love our homes,

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Speaker 2: we love our environment, not just for visitors, also for locals.

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Speaker 2: We need to make sure that they're keeping up to you.

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Speaker 19: Great.

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Speaker 3: Oh good on you. God loves to try it. Daria,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much. Tanya taps a little to do

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Speaker 3: as Aba listen on politics. I feel like the Labor

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Speaker 3: Party might just want to put out a wee directive

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Speaker 3: to its MPs to just be a little bit careful

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Speaker 3: with the things that they're saying about Israel and the

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Speaker 3: posts that they make about Israel and the Gaza situation

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Speaker 3: at the at the moment, you will have seen by

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Speaker 3: now Damian O'Connor had to delete a tweet that he

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Speaker 3: reposted yesterday which said quote Palestinians have every right to

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Speaker 3: do whatever they did on October seven. Now, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you can understand how offensive that is because especially given

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Speaker 3: what was actually done on the day, because nothing would

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Speaker 3: justify that. And actually Dami and should know better. He's

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Speaker 3: been around a long time. He's a he's a pretty

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Speaker 3: cool guy. He's the Foreign Affairs spokesperson. So you know,

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Speaker 3: this is a rookie mistake he shouldn't be making, not

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Speaker 3: the first one because Duncan Web you remember he got

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Speaker 3: in trouble for doing a similar thing, had to delete

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Speaker 3: the post as well. Not a good look, I would

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Speaker 3: say for a major party in New Zealand to be

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Speaker 3: this careless with something that is as controversial and inflammatory

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Speaker 3: and upsetting as that situation at the moment. So maybe

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Speaker 3: if they I don't know, I mean, it could be

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Speaker 3: quite simple what the Labour Party has to do about it,

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Speaker 3: just to say nobody says anything about this at all.

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Speaker 3: Done six twenty one.

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Speaker 3: You're on the regions. Look, we've got to talk about this.

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Speaker 3: I feel for Southland over the news that Air new

877
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Speaker 3: Zealand is cutting the Wellington to Invercargol route. But this

878
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Speaker 3: is business right. If that route was not making money,

879
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Speaker 3: it had to be cut. Air New Zealand's not a charity.

880
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 3: This is a company, and it's a company that's actually

881
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Speaker 3: bleed money at the moment. You have a look at

882
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Speaker 3: what's just happened in the last financial year. In the

883
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Speaker 3: second half, Air new Zealand made no money. They made

884
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: no money. Now, in better times you could probably make

885
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Speaker 3: the argument that there is a social license that Air

886
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Speaker 3: new Zealand needs to fulfill to the regions. Even then,

887
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Speaker 3: frankly I wouldn't buy it, but someone might. But no

888
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: one in their right mind can seriously think that a

889
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Speaker 3: company losing money in the last six months should run

890
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: a flight to in Vicargo that compounds that loss. Now

891
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: I feel like in Vercargo needs a gentle reality check here,

892
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: and I say gentle because I realize you know that

893
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Speaker 3: the last thing they need is probably a reality check

894
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Speaker 3: when they're hurting as much as they are over this.

895
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 3: But there is still a direct route from christ Church

896
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Speaker 3: to in Vicargo and much more importantly, a direct route

897
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Speaker 3: from Auckland to in Vericagol the gateway to the world.

898
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Speaker 3: Not every region can boast that, and also gentle reality

899
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Speaker 3: check for the local MP, Penny Simmons. She's complained about

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Speaker 3: the fact that she's now not going to be able

901
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: to get home after Parliament on a Thursday because the

902
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Speaker 3: Welling Welling into Invercargo flight has been cut in. The

903
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: only way around it now is basically to leave at

904
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Speaker 3: four o'clock. Leave the office then is far too early now.

905
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Speaker 3: The reason that this flight has been cut is because

906
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Speaker 3: of her government's public service cuts, right. That's why Wellington

907
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Speaker 3: is the only leg that has been cut, because Wellington's

908
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Speaker 3: the one with the spending that's dried up. I wouldn't

909
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: be surprised if there are more Wellington roots in and

910
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: out of the Capitol that are changed for the same

911
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: reason because there's just no money in the capital anymore.

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Speaker 19: Now.

913
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Speaker 3: I don't mind that Penny Simmons government has done this.

914
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Speaker 3: In fact I applauded because I don't want our taxes

915
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Speaker 3: to be used to buy flights just to keep a

916
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Speaker 3: route running. But reality checks all round, right, this is

917
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Speaker 3: business and air New Zealand is still social license or not.

918
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Speaker 3: At the heart of it a business.

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Speaker 4: Hell do for see Allen Heather.

920
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Speaker 3: How good is Tarnya? Can she move to Wellington and

921
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: be our mayor lord above every I'll tell you what

922
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Speaker 3: everybody would benefit I think from a little bit of

923
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Speaker 3: Tania running their situations at the moment, given what's going

924
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Speaker 3: on here, the wonder what rate the council's charge for

925
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Speaker 3: toilet cleaning. I think there's gonna be some golden toilet

926
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Speaker 3: brushes out there. One of the councils I was reading

927
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Speaker 3: about this morning, and I can't remember which one it is,

928
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Speaker 3: has something like one percent of its rate bills going

929
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Speaker 3: into cleaning the toilets. And these are the toilets that

930
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Speaker 3: the tourists use. So it's called to be a fair

931
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Speaker 3: price that's being charged. Like when I say fair, I

932
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Speaker 3: don't mean like fair and unfair. I mean a fair price.

933
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Speaker 3: It's being charged for those toilet cleaning services. Either, if

934
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Speaker 3: the councils stop spending loads of money on insane things,

935
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Speaker 3: they would have enough many money left over for their

936
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Speaker 3: core business and a rates cap. Look, this is my

937
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Speaker 3: argument right at the heart of it. If they could

938
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Speaker 3: just demonstrate, this is what Luxem's been saying, demonstrate that

939
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Speaker 3: you can spend properly and then you get more money.

940
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Speaker 3: Don't demonstrated to get no more money anyway. He's with

941
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Speaker 3: us straight after the news just after half past seven,

942
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Speaker 3: news stooks ev.

943
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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

944
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Speaker 4: You have to see Ellen on the Mike asking.

945
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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real estate, your local experts across residential,

946
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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talk sad.

947
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Speaker 3: Be you're dog back and you'll know the name mich

948
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Speaker 3: James Key. We sing a songwriter. He's gonna do with

949
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Speaker 3: us after eight o'clock. He posted on Instagram the other

950
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Speaker 3: day that he's taking a break from music. So we

951
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: have to find out what's going on after eight o'clock

952
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Speaker 3: with us. Right now, it's twenty three away from eight

953
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Speaker 3: and in studio where us we have Christopher luxon the

954
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister Chris, Hello.

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Speaker 13: How are you.

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Speaker 3: Well, congratulations to you first and foremost, thank you very much.

957
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Speaker 3: I feel like you're more used to what's happening right

958
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Speaker 3: now than I am. So do you want to take charge?

959
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Speaker 13: You're doing a great job.

960
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Speaker 3: Figure out your button?

961
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Speaker 7: Just then?

962
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Speaker 3: Did you notice that?

963
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Speaker 13: I don't know? So just make it? Just fake it?

964
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Speaker 13: Do you make it?

965
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Speaker 21: Yeah?

966
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Speaker 3: Is that what you do?

967
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Speaker 13: I've built a whole career on it.

968
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Speaker 3: There comes the honest are you're already getting a good

969
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: stuff out of here? Chris? Thanks for coming in. I've

970
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: got to talk about the Dunedin Hospital. Why don't you

971
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Speaker 3: guys not find one point one billion bucks just to

972
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Speaker 3: get these guys what they want?

973
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

974
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Speaker 22: Look, I mean, look, this is a I mean it's

975
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Speaker 22: frustrating for people, and I get it's frustrating for us

976
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Speaker 22: as a new government inheriting the project. It started off

977
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Speaker 22: at one point two billion, it ended up going up

978
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Speaker 22: to one point six. We put another three hundred million

979
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Speaker 22: into it to one point nine, and then we've got

980
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Speaker 22: the latest review suggesting it's going to be approaching three

981
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Speaker 22: billion dollars, which would be without doubt the most expensive

982
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Speaker 22: hospital in the history of the Southern Hemisphere.

983
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Speaker 13: So the challenge we've got.

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Speaker 22: Is that we are very committed to building a new

985
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 22: hospital and then don't get me wrong, but we've got

986
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Speaker 22: to do it within the one point nine billion.

987
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Speaker 13: Dollar fiscal envelope.

988
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Speaker 22: Otherwise that means that we can't do from Taurong, you know, Palmerstan,

989
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 22: North Nelson, other regional hospitals we were going to have

990
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Speaker 22: to deal with.

991
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Speaker 3: Problem is it the election? You guys had a crack

992
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Speaker 3: at the Labor Party for dicking around on this and

993
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Speaker 3: you yeah.

994
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Speaker 13: Well it took six years and did nothing right.

995
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: So I mean, aren't you in the same position.

996
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 22: Well, we're taking advice really quickly on the two options

997
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 22: that we've got, which is essentially stage at the old

998
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 22: site or scale back at the new site.

999
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 13: But we will deliver a new hospital, but we have

1000
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Speaker 13: to do it.

1001
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Speaker 22: Within the one point nine billion And what we've seen

1002
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Speaker 22: is cost creep and you know scope creep from a

1003
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Speaker 22: Labour government where it's been or whether it's been school

1004
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Speaker 22: buildings and now the hospital.

1005
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Speaker 3: How much smaller is it going to be. That'll be

1006
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Speaker 3: up to.

1007
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Speaker 22: The advice that we can see. You know, Like as

1008
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Speaker 22: I said, Shane Ready and Chris Bishop are all over it.

1009
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Speaker 22: They've asked for urgent advice on the two options. As

1010
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Speaker 22: I said, whether it's staged or whether it's scale back,

1011
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Speaker 22: we have to make those choices.

1012
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Speaker 3: See the difficulty I think you guys have got is

1013
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: that you are making some choices about what to spend

1014
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: money on. And it's all kinds of other stuff. It's roads,

1015
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Speaker 3: it's tobacco, tax cards, it's stuff for landlords. And when

1016
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Speaker 3: it comes to something that Key Wes fundamentally care about, which.

1017
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Speaker 13: Is disagree, I disagree.

1018
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Speaker 22: And we put almost thirty billion dollars a year into health.

1019
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Speaker 22: We put sixteen or seventeen billion dollars extra in the

1020
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Speaker 22: most spent ever going into OL. So there's plenty of

1021
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Speaker 22: money in health. We're not managing infrastructure projects across the country,

1022
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 22: whether it's hospitals, whether it's schools, whether it's fairies well

1023
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Speaker 22: at all. That's been a legacy. We've got to get

1024
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Speaker 22: better at that, and we've got to manage the capital

1025
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Speaker 22: spending that we've got. So I'm to say there's plenty

1026
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Speaker 22: of money going in We've got, there's.

1027
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Speaker 3: Plenty of money, more money going but yet you can

1028
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Speaker 3: find two billion bucks for a road in Wellington.

1029
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 22: Well, we've got a lot to do in terms of

1030
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Speaker 22: building out that infrastructure.

1031
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 13: Hospital infrastructures are part of that.

1032
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Speaker 22: We've also got good money coming in, but you just

1033
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Speaker 22: can't have a project go from one point two billion

1034
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 22: when it started. It would have been good if it

1035
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Speaker 22: had actually been built in the last six years, would

1036
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Speaker 22: have been cheaper than what it would have been now.

1037
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Speaker 22: But you can't have it heading out to three billion dollars.

1038
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Speaker 22: And you know, even at one point nine I'll bet

1039
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Speaker 22: one of the most successive hospitals.

1040
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Speaker 3: Are you sure the contract is not taking the mickey here?

1041
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 22: Well, that's what the review will identify, right, it's just

1042
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 22: what options have we got?

1043
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: Are you looking into that specific?

1044
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 22: We're looking into all of that. And there's bigger questions

1045
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 22: I think fundamentally around how we deliver infrastructure in government.

1046
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 22: You know, do we think the Ministry of Education is

1047
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 22: the best place to make decisions about school buildings? We

1048
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 22: had four hundred and fifty school projects from memory that

1049
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Speaker 22: were underfunded to the tune of a couple of billion dollars.

1050
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Speaker 3: And what are you talking about, like a Ministry of

1051
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: Works or something.

1052
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Speaker 22: Well, just you know, is there a different way of

1053
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Speaker 22: actually managing instruct where you got real competency, real expertise,

1054
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Speaker 22: because in fairness, you know, running a health system, running

1055
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Speaker 22: an each caation system is often different from managing infrastructure

1056
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Speaker 22: and asset management.

1057
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Speaker 3: Do you see treasuries warning last week?

1058
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

1059
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Speaker 13: I did, Yeah, I did.

1060
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Speaker 3: Okay, how are you going to get us out of

1061
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: the structural deficit?

1062
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Speaker 22: Well, I just say, we have to get out of

1063
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Speaker 22: the structural deficit. We've been on a massive binge and

1064
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 22: we have to have a little bit of a diet

1065
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 22: to get the box back in order because at the

1066
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Speaker 22: moment we're actually borrowing more than we're spending.

1067
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Speaker 3: You know, well, how are you going to do it?

1068
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Speaker 22: And we're spending more than we're getting in. So we've

1069
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Speaker 22: got to get back to financial discipline, which is why

1070
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Speaker 22: we just had the chat on the Denetan hospital because yeah,

1071
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Speaker 22: you say, right, let the one point one billion go through,

1072
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Speaker 22: but it's one point one billion there, it's two billion

1073
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 22: on ferries, it's two billion on skill buildings. We've got

1074
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 22: to have some financial discipline around that. We've got to

1075
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Speaker 22: make sure that we then.

1076
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Speaker 13: Set up for growth. That's what we're focused.

1077
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Speaker 22: On right now, because we've got spending sort of getting

1078
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Speaker 22: gripped up.

1079
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Speaker 13: We'll continue to do that daily practice. That's hard work

1080
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Speaker 13: going forward.

1081
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Speaker 22: We know we've got some limited allowances, but we've got

1082
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Speaker 22: to question the spends that we've already got going on

1083
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 22: and make sure they're getting returns. We've got inflation coming down,

1084
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Speaker 22: we've got interest rates coming down, we've got business confidence rising.

1085
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Speaker 22: But we need to see you know, the economy grow.

1086
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Speaker 3: But you're gonna have to cut as well, aren't you.

1087
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Speaker 3: And I mean Dominic Stevens was saying last week that

1088
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Speaker 3: the level of cuts that you will have to do

1089
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Speaker 3: are unprecedented in New Zealand history.

1090
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Speaker 22: Yeah, but possible. We can do a lot more with less,

1091
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Speaker 22: you know. And as we've seen, there's been a lot

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Speaker 22: of dumb and wasteful spending go on across the system

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Speaker 22: for a number of for the last six years.

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Speaker 3: Are we going to get another of all budgets type scenario? Potentially?

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Speaker 22: So you've seen our approach, which is that you know,

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Speaker 22: we know we've got to deliver a surplus. We know

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Speaker 22: it'll be ten years I think by the time we

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Speaker 22: get it back into books, and we know we've got

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Speaker 22: to get the books in order. You cannot, whether you're

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Speaker 22: a family or ten years from now, no, ten years.

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Speaker 22: It'll be ten years that we would have had a

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Speaker 22: deficit before we get there. But you know, we're doing

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Speaker 22: it in a really sensible, balanced kind of way, and

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Speaker 22: so we're not throwing the country into hard austerity. What

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Speaker 22: we're doing as balancing as you've seen, tax relief for

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Speaker 22: lower middle income workers. Yes, reprioritize twenty three billion of

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Speaker 22: savings within government spending.

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Speaker 13: Get it out of the bureaucracy, get it.

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Speaker 22: To the frontline services. So we're working through in a

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Speaker 22: very balanced, sort of considered kind of way. But the point,

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Speaker 22: if you're a family with a budget, you can't keep

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Speaker 22: spending more than you earn. If you're a business, you

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Speaker 22: can't do the same. And government's having to do the

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Speaker 22: same thing.

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Speaker 3: Hey, are you surprised by the level of resistance to

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Speaker 3: sending the public servants back to work?

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Speaker 13: Well, no, not really, but you were expecting this, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 13: I mean I get it.

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Speaker 22: People may not like it, but the point is that's

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Speaker 22: what's going to happen. We want people back in the office.

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Speaker 22: We want a very effective public service. We want it

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Speaker 22: firing on all cylinders, whether you lead large corporates or

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Speaker 22: whether you lead large government employees. The reality is you

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Speaker 22: can maintain a culture for a period of time virtually,

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Speaker 22: but you need people in the office.

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Speaker 3: When are you going to give me my minimum days?

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Speaker 3: They have to be back.

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Speaker 22: This's what I want, Well, we want the starting point

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Speaker 22: needs to be you're in the office, and then if

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Speaker 22: you have formal arrangements that's formally agreed.

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Speaker 13: It's not an entitle So are you.

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Speaker 3: Saying to me right now, it's five days in the

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Speaker 3: office unless you've got some permission not to be there. Yep, correct,

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Speaker 3: So it's a minimum of five.

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Speaker 22: Well, it's a starting you know, we want everyone in

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Speaker 22: the office. That's the startup. It's not an entitlement that

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Speaker 22: you just get to work from home.

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Speaker 4: This is great, Chris.

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Speaker 3: Why didn't you just say this on the day five

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Speaker 3: days in the office?

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Speaker 22: There you go, Well, no, we said, we said we

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Speaker 22: want people in the office, and if you want to

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Speaker 22: make alternative arrangements, you've got to do that in a

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Speaker 22: formal way. But the point we're trying to make here

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Speaker 22: is that we want, you know, the public service. We've

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Speaker 22: got some great public servants, but we've got a lot

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Speaker 22: that we've got to get sorted.

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Speaker 13: In this country.

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Speaker 22: And therefore, if that you know, and here's the research

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Speaker 22: I mean, and the evidence I've seen is that young people,

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Speaker 22: for example, who are working from home are not getting

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Speaker 22: coaching or feedback or development opportunities as a result.

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Speaker 13: When you go look at career.

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Speaker 22: Progression of those that work in the office versus those

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Speaker 22: that work from home, you know, there's all those sort

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Speaker 22: of benefits. Better communication. A lot of the problems we've

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Speaker 22: got our cross ministries. You know, we're dealing with people

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Speaker 22: who are stuck in emergency housing, but school attendance issues

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Speaker 22: with you know that that's the same cohort. We need

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Speaker 22: a cross government response to those sorts of issues. So

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Speaker 22: I'm just saying, look, you've got to come back to

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Speaker 22: the office. That's where we are. That's not inconsistent with

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Speaker 22: what other governments and leaders doing. And let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: You moved into Premier House yet done on the weekend. Hold, well,

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Speaker 3: god be honest, I mean it's drafty and ancient.

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Speaker 22: Well it's we finally managed to get new paint, new

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Speaker 22: curtains and new carpet.

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Speaker 13: That's what the work has been over the last six.

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Speaker 22: Months in part of the house, which is it was

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Speaker 22: last time when Jim Bolger was there in nineteen ninety. Yes,

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Speaker 22: so the carpet had been stretched I think seven times,

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Speaker 22: pretty third thread beer. But we managed to get that approved,

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Speaker 22: to get that spin.

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Speaker 3: And are you cold?

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Speaker 13: I've got a nice jumper. It's all good.

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Speaker 3: Are you cranking the heat all night?

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Speaker 22: I've got a good jumper, you know, Jesus, it's good.

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Speaker 3: It's get some silicon around those windows. I had a

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Speaker 3: bit of a working.

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Speaker 22: Bee on the weekend and sot of got some of

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Speaker 22: the tools out and carry on.

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Speaker 13: Sort of things things out.

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Speaker 22: But look, it's it's a privileged to be Prominis of

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Speaker 22: New Zealand and it's a privilege to live in I.

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Speaker 3: Love that you're putting a positive spin on this. It

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Speaker 3: is so utterly transparent what you're doing right now. How

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Speaker 3: do you feel about the fact that we're obsessed with

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Speaker 3: how much money you've made on your regal property.

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Speaker 22: In Yeah, Look, I mean I don't know how to

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Speaker 22: explain it any other way, which is you know, I came.

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Speaker 13: To politics four years ago.

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Speaker 22: I bought an apartment in October twenty twenty when the

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Speaker 22: election was twenty twenty. I then became Prime Minister. I

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Speaker 22: was normally my promises would sell their apartment move into

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Speaker 22: premier house. I couldn't because there was basic maintenance needs

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Speaker 22: to be done, as I said, paint, curtain's carpet some

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Speaker 22: of it, and that's been done. Now I'm moving in

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Speaker 22: and I don't need the apartment, so I'm selling it.

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Speaker 22: So that's what John Key did when he became Prime Minister.

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Speaker 3: I feel about the fact that it was all over

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Speaker 3: the TV news last night. I haven't met well.

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Speaker 22: I've come to expect that, you know, which is is

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Speaker 22: a bit what I can't well, I can't. I mean

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Speaker 22: the bottom lines I said right from the beginning of

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Speaker 22: my first day in politics. You know, yep, I'm a

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Speaker 22: kid who's parents at school sixteen, I went to university,

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Speaker 22: did well in the world, successful, get it right, and

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Speaker 22: I've chosen to come to politics because I want to

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Speaker 22: add back to New Zealand. So that's my reason for it.

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Speaker 22: But if we're going to criticize people for being successful,

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Speaker 22: and you know, let's be clear, you know, I'm wealthy,

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Speaker 22: I'm sorted.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen what just Cinda's doing? Chris, after this,

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Speaker 3: you can you ca on the speaking circuit. No, Look,

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Speaker 3: you can make as much in one gig speaking as

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Speaker 3: you do on your property like.

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Speaker 13: That won't be my focus. There's a lot of other

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Speaker 13: things to do politics.

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Speaker 22: But right now I am absolutely determined. We have a

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Speaker 22: great future. We've got a great potential on this joint.

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Speaker 22: Now we just got to get it rid.

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Speaker 3: We've got a structural deficit to fix.

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Speaker 17: First.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Chris, thank you very much, really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: That's Chris lux and the Prime Minister. It's thirteen away from.

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Speaker 3: A'd be ten to eight morning here. Can you ask

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister if you put wall carpet? And we did,

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Speaker 3: Actually we did it afterwards and can confirm it was

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Speaker 3: wall carpet. So there you go. Nothing to be ashamed about.

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Speaker 19: There.

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Speaker 3: He's gone flashesn't he. They're probably a story on one

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Speaker 3: News about how much money they spends on the carpet.

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Speaker 3: Either what's more important, hospitals or tax relief for landlord

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Speaker 3: ffs Now listen, I'm on that subject and this is

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Speaker 3: what I was trying to get to with Chris Luxen.

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Speaker 3: The media are still going hard on Casey Costello, one

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Speaker 3: of the ministers, for giving tax breaks to tobacco companies,

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Speaker 3: and basically the tax break for this thing's called heated

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Speaker 3: tobacco products, which is try just another way. It's like

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Speaker 3: an alternative to vaping. To get the people off the cities.

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Speaker 3: And she gave a fifty percent tax break to this

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Speaker 3: particular product. There is only one company that has this

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Speaker 3: product in the country, it is Philip Morris. So they

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Speaker 3: got a tax break of pretty much two hundred and

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Speaker 3: sixteen million dollars. There's your problem with decisions that you're making, right,

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Speaker 3: So you haven't got enough money for hospital, but you've

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Speaker 3: got enough money for that and landlords and so on,

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Speaker 3: and people don't like the look of that. Hither. I'm

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Speaker 3: a building contractor in Duned, and I understand the reasoning

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Speaker 3: behind the government putting a hold on the hospital, but

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Speaker 3: surely the responsibility actually sits back on the designers. We

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Speaker 3: deal with the stuff all the time. They have no

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Speaker 3: ability to design within a budget, and it becomes an

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Speaker 3: ego trip to create a landmark. Make the designers responsible,

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Speaker 3: and on the public servants. Heather. Since two thousand, the

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Speaker 3: population has increased from four to five million, but the

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Speaker 3: public servants have doubled return to that level and we

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Speaker 3: will be fine on that. Some good news for you.

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Speaker 3: Some public servants are so unhappy about being sent back

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Speaker 3: to the office that they are in fact threatening to quit,

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Speaker 3: in which case we may well find that there is

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Speaker 3: a level of attrition that just happens all by itself.

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Speaker 3: He's away from.

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Speaker 1: Mate, Heather duz Ellen on them My costing Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the Jaguar f Base News talks edb.

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Speaker 3: Five away from it. I said, I was going to

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Speaker 3: get to what John Key has said about the US election.

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Speaker 3: So he did an interview with stuff and said before

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Speaker 3: Biden pulled out, he was about ninety eight percent sure

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Speaker 3: that Trump would win. But now Kamala Harris has dramatically

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Speaker 3: changed the game. So what's his pick.

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Speaker 4: I think it's fifty five forty five.

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Speaker 23: He wins it. It's not straightforward because it is so

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Speaker 23: hard like all of those swing states seem to be

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Speaker 23: in the margin. Nevera, we've still got quite a lot

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Speaker 23: of days to go. But nevertheless, anyway, I think it'll

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Speaker 23: it'll be too close to.

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Speaker 4: Call for quite a while.

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Speaker 23: But if Donald Trump can wrestle the debate back onto

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Speaker 23: the economy, I think he wins. I think if it's

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Speaker 23: on all these other issues he potentially loses, but I've

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Speaker 23: still got them. I've still got him ahead in my

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Speaker 23: in my brain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting that he's still got Trump ahead. On the economy,

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Speaker 3: I think he's bang on, and I've got some information.

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Speaker 3: There's a pole a policy thing that's been done, a

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Speaker 3: poll on Karmala's economic policy, and I'll run you through

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Speaker 3: in the next hour. But then the question, of course is, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: he might win, but should he win, who's better for

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Speaker 3: New Zealand.

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Speaker 23: I think he's better for the economy. But the only

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Speaker 23: thing I'd say is that, you know, I spent a

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Speaker 23: lot of time with Barack Obama obviously to try and

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Speaker 23: get TPP across the line than we did. And the

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Speaker 23: very first thing that Donald Trump did was rip up

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Speaker 23: the free trade agreement between New.

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Speaker 14: Zealand and basically America.

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Speaker 23: So from that perspective, you know, I don't know how

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Speaker 23: great you know, necessarily that is Donald Trump is driving

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Speaker 23: very much in America first in America, more isolationist kind

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Speaker 23: of view.

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Speaker 4: Actually it's quite different.

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Speaker 23: Actually, it's a very different foreign policy than we've ever seen.

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Speaker 23: So that probably doesn't help New Zealand as much. But

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Speaker 23: on balance, I think he's probably better for the economy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's slightly better for the economy. But they're

1309
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: probably both as bad as each other because neither of

1310
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: them are, you know, Like I don't know. It's hardly

1311
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 3: as if Karmla's going to get in there and be

1312
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: like free trade. Let's go for it, guys. Anyway, I

1313
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: will run you through the Karmala how I pol you

1314
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: might be interested in that. Mitch James is going to

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Speaker 3: be with us next on why the rumor that he

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Speaker 3: is quitting music after all these years? News TALKSB.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, You Can Trust, Heather Duper c Allen

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities,

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00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: Life Your Way, News Dogs Head B you.

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Speaker 4: Had a life you even thought of me?

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00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 3: You'll know the name Mix James. For eleven years, he's

1322
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: been releasing music. He's been touring the world because of it.

1323
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: He's open for Callum Scott, supported Ed Sheer and toured

1324
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: with six sixty years Well, put out a bunch of albums.

1325
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: He's got a new single out, he's got a new

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00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: EP coming out next month, and he is in studio

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Speaker 3: with us right now. Mitch, Hello, Hello, Heather, thanks for

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00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 3: having me, Thank you for coming in. I'm sorry. I

1329
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: apologize you before. I'm sorry. I'm not your your bromance mate.

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00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 18: Yeah, oh my, have a great little bromance going. But

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01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 18: this is this is a great second price.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, thank you. It's very charming. If you I

1333
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: saw you out there, you were asking after him. Was

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Speaker 3: it disappointing.

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Speaker 18: It's not disappointing. I was very well aware ahead of

1336
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 18: time that I was with you here. But if Mike,

1337
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 18: if you're listening, I miss your brother.

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01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 3: I just listened to you go, hey, what's this about

1339
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: you giving up music?

1340
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Speaker 18: So, yeah, I've been obviously, as you alluded to, I've

1341
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 18: been in the industry for a long time, and as

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01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 18: you as you were in the industry for so long,

1343
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 18: and especially the journey that I've taken. There's just it's

1344
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 18: crazy and at times evil industry, and there's there's a

1345
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 18: lot of pitfalls, and you know, I made some gambles

1346
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 18: in my career which ended up backfiring sort of behind

1347
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 18: the scenes, and yeah, it just it just became an

1348
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 18: environment for me that it was too challenging to try

1349
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 18: and overcome the ceilings that have put been put in place.

1350
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 18: By people that were either on my team or formally

1351
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 18: on my team in the industry and politics and all

1352
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 18: of that. And I've just I've got this music coming

1353
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 18: out and now that I believe as my most complete,

1354
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 18: most mature, advanced work as a songwriter and an artist,

1355
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 18: and coupled with the fact that this industry had sort of,

1356
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 18: you know, turned against me in a lot of ways,

1357
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 18: I just thought, you know, I'm sick of this and

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01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 18: I just want to hang my hat on something that

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 18: I can look back on in twenty years time and

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01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 18: go like, this is my finest work and something that

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01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 18: I can be very proud of. And so it's a

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01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 18: bit of sweet feeling because you know, in a lot

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01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 18: of ways, I did feel like I had a lot

1364
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 18: more to give, but like I said, you know, I

1365
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 18: was finding myself budding into a lot of ceilings that

1366
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 18: have been put in place that we're out of my control,

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01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 18: and I just, yeah, I kind of had enough, I.

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Speaker 3: Guess going out on a high type thing exactly.

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Speaker 18: Yeah. And you know, I've been so grateful to the

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 18: people who have supported me and you know, given me

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Speaker 18: such amazing experience as touring the world and you know,

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Speaker 18: listening to my music, making memories with their friends and

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01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 18: all of this. It's been so special that I just

1374
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 18: wanted to end on a somewhat positive note.

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Speaker 3: What do you think backfired for you?

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Speaker 18: There was definitely a few things that I look at

1377
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 18: behind the scenes where to put it very in a

1378
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 18: long story short where I had shot for the stars

1379
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 18: and and and in a lot of ways that passed

1380
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 18: off a lot of people who were already on my team.

1381
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 18: And then you know, a few things backfired behind the scenes,

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Speaker 18: and it resulted in a lot of burnt bridges, if

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01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 18: you will. And then you know, I sort of found myself.

1384
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 18: It was very challenging to then break through that ceiling

1385
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 18: because it's it's such a network game music and once, yeah,

1386
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 18: once that network has sort of been de established in

1387
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 18: a few ways that were I became the problematic person

1388
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 18: to work with, even though in my eyes a lot

1389
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 18: of this was you know, I just wanted to bring

1390
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 18: New Zealand on my back on the world stage. And yeah,

1391
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 18: a lot of people back in New Zealand didn't appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: What are you going to do? I can't reveal all

1393
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: yet hither you've already got plans?

1394
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 18: Yeah, I've got plans. I guess what I can say

1395
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 18: is that it's something in the media space and in

1396
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 18: the sports space that I've been working.

1397
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Speaker 3: It's got anything to do with the league slightly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean the giveaway was the fact that you posted

1400
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 3: that on Insta that you were going to leave in

1401
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 3: the year to one New Zealand Warriors jersey on them.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 18: Yeah, Well, I mean, anyone that knows me knows that

1404
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 18: I'm probably in the in the top three New Zealand

1405
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 18: Warriors fans worldwide behind you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, most of

1406
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 18: my cost ging, he knows, but we Yeah, I'm probably

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 18: number three behind Sir Peter Leach and the Mount Smart

1408
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 18: Joker as the as the Warriors mascot fans. But yeah,

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01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 18: it's it's something in the sports space that I've arguably

1410
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 18: wanted to be in that space longer than music, and

1411
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 18: it's something that no one can take away from me,

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01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 18: if you know what I mean. Kind of like I

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01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 18: felt like what happened in music, and yeah, I felt

1414
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 18: like I just had so much more to give in music,

1415
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 18: but I was just you know, budding the ceiling and

1416
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 18: it was very frustrating, and you know, I was no

1417
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 18: longer getting playlisted or I was no longer you know,

1418
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 18: getting getting the same love. I mean, New Zealand radio

1419
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 18: has been amazing to me, but every other sort of

1420
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 18: aspect of that recording industry sort of sort of turned

1421
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 18: on me. So I'm looking at this space and going,

1422
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 18: this is something that only I can ruin for myself.

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01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 18: So it's it's an exciting time for me. And yeah,

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01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 18: I guess the Warriors is something part of it, but

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01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 18: it's Yeah, it's a more broad sort of thing that

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01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 18: I'm I'm really excited about and to announce in due

1427
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 18: time and hopefully get people excited about.

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Speaker 3: I suppose it's not going to be a bad thing

1429
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: to have a steady income, is it. Yeah, yeah, that's

1430
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 3: the thing about me, given given how much you end

1431
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 3: on your perfumes, I found out, Ah, yes, yes, what

1432
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: are you wearing today? I'm raring crewed a role for

1433
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: Heather and I can see that that retails at Smith

1434
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 3: and Coey's for five hundred and twenty two.

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01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 18: See, everyone listening might think hearing that that I'm some

1436
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 18: super rich musician leaving out on top, but I actually

1437
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 18: probably spent four years worth of income on that on

1438
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 18: that perfew.

1439
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 3: It does smell good. This is why we know about it,

1440
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 3: because you basically bring the scent in with its delicious Hey,

1441
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 3: I was I was telling you earlier. I was watching

1442
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 3: the video that you did for your mum. Yes, as

1443
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 3: a mum man, I'll tell you what, like I thought, geez,

1444
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: your mum must be proud of you.

1445
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 18: Mom doesn't like to use the word proud, she always

1447
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 18: says that, but yeah, it was a very special moment

1448
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 18: that that and Duneda. They live in central Otago, and

1449
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 18: so I got mum to come down to Dunedin and

1450
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 18: the Duned and Symphony Orchestra. I hadn't even met any

1451
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 18: of them before, and they got given some music and

1452
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 18: I showed up about fifteen minutes before mum. We had

1453
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 18: a couple runs through and yeah, I wrote the song

1454
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 18: for a called Mamma and Me, which is basically an

1455
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 18: ode to my mum. We we've had a very interesting journey,

1456
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 18: like I'm sure many mothers and sons and daughters out there,

1457
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 18: But it basically starts off about you know, when I

1458
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 18: was born, and then goes into me being a little

1459
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 18: rascal growing up and then as a man in the

1460
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 18: final verse, you know, sort of encompassing that whole journey

1461
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 18: and realizing that there's no mother love like a mother's

1462
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:30,479
Speaker 18: love and.

1463
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 3: Oh, you're going to make me cry. Yeah, it is.

1464
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 3: It's an incredible that we put into you. Guys. Match

1465
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 3: is the gate and you don't grate.

1466
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 18: Absolutely so grateful. I think you don't really realize how

1467
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 18: how special that connection is until you know, you get

1468
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 18: some perspective on your own life and it's yeah, I was.

1469
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 18: I was a little rascal and so you know, to

1470
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 18: come come full circle as a man and realize, you know,

1471
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 18: my mom's been on her own journey and she's been sick,

1472
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 18: and she's an incredible woman for anyone who knows her,

1473
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 18: and so yeah, to come full circle with that journey,

1474
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 18: I felt like it was my duty as a son

1475
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 18: to write a song about her as an artist, and yeah,

1476
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 18: to get the to surprise her with the Symphony orchestra

1477
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 18: was it was something I'll remember forever. And that was

1478
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 18: actually the second take because I started crying during the

1479
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 18: first time.

1480
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 3: We're all softies. Okay, Mitch, We'll take a break and

1481
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 3: we come back. We'll hear your new single A sounds

1482
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 3: good quarter past the.

1483
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: Mic asking Breakfast full Show, podcast on iHeartRadio, car it

1484
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: By News.

1485
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 4: Talks It Beat.

1486
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 3: All right, we've got Mitch James with us. Mitch, this

1487
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 3: is your new single. What's it called?

1488
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 18: A song's called Beautiful Stranger? And yeah, like we were

1489
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 18: saying before, it's my last last single at least for now.

1490
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 18: So yeah, it's very excited to see how people enjoy it.

1491
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: Okay, take it away?

1492
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 17: How do we find ourselves? Talking for hours? But it

1493
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 17: felt like it is like someone answered my prayers. I've

1494
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 17: known you forever, my dear lasting.

1495
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 18: Our.

1496
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 17: Mounting the walls and some mold.

1497
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 3: Can we stay in this moment?

1498
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 17: Kiss?

1499
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 21: I don't know you, put all too share my secrets,

1500
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 21: open up.

1501
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 17: To you, take the pieces of.

1502
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 21: My heart here in the dark. I've always known you,

1503
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 21: beautiful stranger. I've always known you, beautiful full stranger.

1504
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 17: Felt like come not to oh fame, scared up to that,

1505
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,520
Speaker 17: but I know a monkey. It's like your eyes already

1506
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 17: know my name. I don't think I'll lead it be

1507
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 17: the same. It feels like we're flowing and a mondy

1508
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 17: you spelling me and know.

1509
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 21: Can we stay in this moment because I don't know

1510
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 21: you but don't want to share my secrets open out

1511
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 21: to you take the pieces of mydy in the dark.

1512
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 21: I've always known you, Judith for Stranger, have always known you,

1513
01:09:53,640 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 21: Utith for Stranger, rab as own, I don't know you,

1514
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 21: but on so shall I seek, oh been not to

1515
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 21: take the pieces of.

1516
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 3: MyD here in.

1517
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 21: I always known you?

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Speaker 3: Oh how good was that? That is going out on

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Speaker 3: a high, isn't it? That is?

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Speaker 18: That is thank you for having me here. They appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Mitch. Thank you for coming in, and next time you

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01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 3: can come in and talk Rugby League with michaelsta cannot.

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Speaker 4: Wait, cannot wait.

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Speaker 17: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Best of like the single and the album coming out.

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01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 3: But that's mits James. It's a twenty one either.

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Speaker 1: Doule Ellen on the mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: estate news talks in they.

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Speaker 3: A twenty four. Apparently, Mitch's mum, Viv organizes the Drive

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Speaker 3: for Life at Hampton Down's racetrack for those in payloadive care.

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Speaker 16: So there you go.

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Speaker 3: Something interesting you didn't know before. Now I was going

1533
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 3: to tell you about Karmala Harris. She's talking about switching

1534
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 3: tack from the music industry to Karmala Harris. But it

1535
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 3: is going back to what we were talking about before

1536
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 3: Karmala Harris's economic policy. Now John Key was kind of

1537
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: touched on something. This is one of Karmala Harris's biggest

1538
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 3: problems is that she's unconvincing on the economy. But The

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01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: Guardian is running an exclusive today that indicates that Karmala

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01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 3: Harris's economic policies are actually more popular than Donald Trump's

1541
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 3: in a blind test, and I think that's the important

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01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 3: bit and we'll come back to it. So basically, what

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 3: they did so I got a whole bunch of Americans

1544
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 3: into a room or whatever, gave them twelve policy proposals.

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 3: Six were from Harris's campaign, six were from Trump's, all

1546
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 3: of them on the economy, and they're all anonymised. So

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01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 3: the people who were part of this participating in the

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01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 3: study didn't know whose policies were. I mean, frankly, you

1549
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 3: could probably guess if you had to look at it

1550
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 3: hard enough, but anyway, they didn't know it was anonymised.

1551
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 3: The most popular proposal was a federal ban on price

1552
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 3: gouging of food and groceries. Forty four percent of people

1553
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 3: like that. That's a Harris policy. Then number two was

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01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: Trump's policy of eliminating taxes on social Security benefits forty

1555
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 3: two percent of people like that. But that's the only

1556
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 3: one that to Trump gets into the top five. Remaining

1557
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 3: three are all Harris ones expanding the child tax credit

1558
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 3: for middle and low income families forty three percent like it,

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01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 3: tax breaks for new small businesses forty three percent like it,

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01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 3: and then also increasing the tax rate on long term

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01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 3: capital gains for those earning over a million dollars. What

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01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 3: did I say, if you look hard enough, you could

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01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 3: pick who it came from. So for twenty nine percent

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01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: of people like that, So she gets it's not that

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01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 3: popular to make the top five anyway. Point is only

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01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: works in a blind test, right, because you can't. You

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01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 3: just can't take it out of the mix that people

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01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 3: seem to trust the more on the economy and not

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01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 3: trust the left as much on the economy. So the

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Speaker 3: minute you put Karmela's name back in there, unfortunately it

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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 3: probably falls away again. Whether she can actually sustain the

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01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 3: interest in her and the kind of confidence in her

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01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 3: tax policies, I doubt very much.

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Speaker 24: It probably doesn't have that. The first time she brought

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Speaker 24: up the price gouging, she pronounced it gauging as well, which.

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Speaker 3: Shows an Internet. Yeah, intimate level of understanding on that

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 3: actually price gouging, price gauging, who knows, I don't really know.

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01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 3: I got I got to study for you. I got

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 3: to That's that didn't feel like enough of a BS

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 3: study to verbakic decisions or another BS study for you

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Speaker 3: later on. This one's on EUVS. Here's a question. I'll

1582
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 3: ask you this now. Are you more likely to date

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01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: someone because they drive an electric vehicle?

1584
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1585
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: Now, I'll give you a taste of what's coming next.

1586
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 3: But the news next news talks it'd be and then

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01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 3: Rod Liddle in the UK for us.

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Speaker 6: So much.

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Speaker 4: Whole cannuty take the pieces in dark as.

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: Big news fold opinions Heather due to see Allen on

1591
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar f pace cut

1592
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: from a different cloth.

1593
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 4: News togs eDV listen.

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Speaker 3: News that's just dropped into our inboxes is that the

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Speaker 3: Commerce Commission has declined clearance for the proposed food Stuff's merger.

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Speaker 3: You'll be aware of this right. This is food Stuff's

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01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: North Island food Stuff South Island asking for permission to

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Speaker 3: be able to just create one big food Stuffs and

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 3: their argument from food Stuff's perspective was that back off

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Speaker 3: of stuff would be able to be coordinated, right, and

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01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 3: so you'd cut down a lot of costs there, therefore

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01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 3: making groceries cheaper for everybody, because if they're not having

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01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 3: to funnel all that money into you know, pricing and

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01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 3: people and all that kind of carry on and buying,

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01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 3: you know, like all that admin stuff, then they could

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01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 3: charge you less. But the Commerce Commission says they're not

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01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 3: satisfied that the proposed merger would have the effect of

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Speaker 3: substantially lessening competition in multiple acquisition and retail markets. They

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Speaker 3: say they're worried the proposed merger would reduce the number

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Speaker 3: of major buyers of grocery products in this country from

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Speaker 3: three to two, which essentially, which would be what it

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Speaker 3: is at the moment. You've got food Stuffs northund food

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01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 3: Stuff South, Ould and Woollies, and now you just have

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01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 3: one food Stuffs and one Woolies, which would mean that

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01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: the number of buyers for many suppliers to supply their

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01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 3: products too would go down. The merged entity would likely

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01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 3: be able to extract lower prices from suppliers supplies already

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01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 3: stretched enough at the moment, squeezed by these guys. The

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Speaker 3: proposed merger increases the risk of coordination between the merged

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Speaker 3: entity and Woolworths, and they're worried it could make price

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Speaker 3: coordination between the merged entity and Woolworth's more likely complete

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Speaker 3: or sustainable. Absolutely will be devastating news to food stuff

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01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: because they've put a lot of time and effort into

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Speaker 3: this and I'm sure that Drive this afternoon will be

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01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 3: all over this for you and bring you the latest

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Speaker 3: on It's twenty one away from.

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Speaker 8: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 8: mind for New Zealand business and whether.

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Speaker 3: There was Rod Little UK correspondent, A Rod, how are

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Speaker 3: you doing for that?

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01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 7: How are you very well?

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Speaker 18: Thank?

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Speaker 11: You know?

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Speaker 3: What's the letters with the Tory leadership right? How are

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01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 3: we tracking?

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Speaker 7: Four left in it? And it's been the Tory conference

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01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 7: this week so they've had the chance to address the

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Speaker 7: faithful Conservative Party members and today it was Tom Tuganhat

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Speaker 7: who is reckoned to be one of the outsiders, I

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Speaker 7: guess of the four remaining, and Kemmy Badanock, who is

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Speaker 7: one of the favorites. The general thinking is that this

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01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 7: would come down to a final between Kemmy Badanock from

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01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 7: the right, and Robert Jenerick or Robert Generick as his

1644
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 7: enemies call him, who is from the kind of center left.

1645
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 7: But it's looking more and more now as if the

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 7: Conservative MPs will try to get rid of Badanock before

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01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 7: it even gets to a final, because if he did

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01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 7: get to a final, Kerry Badanough would on the votes

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01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 7: of the members of the party rather than just the MPs.

1650
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 7: So these days people are reckoning. You know, probably Robert Jenrick,

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Speaker 7: probably James Cleverly will be the two in the final.

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Speaker 7: We'll see how much.

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Speaker 3: Damage do you think Benlocke's maternity leave comments have done

1654
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 3: to her?

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Speaker 7: It will have done a bit, no question about that,

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01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 7: because Bado have quite a constituency amongst amongst women Tory

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01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 7: activists and indeed some female Tory MPs, and that won't

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01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 7: have helped her one little bit. But in fairness to her,

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01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 7: it does put a It is bang on the sort

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Speaker 7: of thing she would say and would think. You know,

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Speaker 7: if bad A not a hold of the Conservative Party,

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Speaker 7: you would kind of be looking at the Tories as

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01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 7: being one of those European hard to right parties, the

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01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 7: kind of party which is just really Astra, which is

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01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 7: doing very well in Germany, which has the government in Italy.

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Speaker 7: You know, that's the kind of model that bad Enough

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01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 7: is looking at. The rest of them are far more

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01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 7: like you know, European Christian Democrats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see. James Cleverly has come out as the

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01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 3: favorite for the Tory leadership amongst the British public. Why

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01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 3: would that be?

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01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 7: I don't know his he seems to bear his name,

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01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 7: seems to be a flagrant uh rewriting of the trade

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01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 7: descriptive descriptions. Actually is not not not not the sharpest

1675
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 7: tool in the book a box. He's not bad Cleverly.

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01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 7: He's quite personable, and he did quite well for a

1677
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 7: while as a as a as a defense minister, and

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01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 7: was quite liked for that. But you know that there

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01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 7: doesn't seem to be anything new that Cleverly would bring

1680
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 7: to the role in the way that a liberal such

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01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 7: as Tom Tugan outward or someone from the right key

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01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 7: an awkward. I think if it got to a final

1683
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 7: between Cleverly and Robert Schenerick, as everyone calls him, then

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Speaker 7: I think the odds are that James Cluby will probably went.

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Speaker 3: Isn't this this is this is the age old thing

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01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 3: that faces a political party like this, Do you appeal

1687
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 3: to your voting base with somebody like Kimmy Bednocke, or

1688
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:27,839
Speaker 3: do you appeal to the wider public with somebody like Yeah.

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Speaker 7: No nobody. That's exactly it. And of course the Tories

1690
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 7: have this extraordinarily complex mechanism for choosing their leader, which

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01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 7: ensures that whoever they talk is the worst possible one

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01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 7: for the voters. It's always been like that. There's labyridine,

1693
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 7: series of knockout steps, and then it comes down to

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01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 7: the activist deciding in the end. I mean, you're quite right.

1695
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 7: And I think it's also the case that any party

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01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 7: which has been in power for a long period of

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01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 7: channel and is then really unceremoniously kicked out of power,

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01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 7: they tend to have two or three leaders before they're

1699
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 7: anywhere near back to looking at gaining power seriously in

1700
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 7: the country. That was the case for the Tourist in

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01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 7: ninety seven, and it was the case for the Labor

1702
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 7: Party in seventy nine.

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01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in a real pickle, aren't they.

1704
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 4: Rod.

1705
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 3: It's good to talk to you, mate, really appreciate look

1706
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: after yourself. It's Rod Little UK correspondent. We've got an

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01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 3: unexpected problem that's been caused by melting glaciers. Apparently Italy

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01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 3: and Switzerland have to now redraw part of the border

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01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 3: of the Alps. This has been going on for a

1710
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 3: little while now, but it seems to be stuck with Italy.

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01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: So what's gone on is that part of the area

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Speaker 3: affected is just beneath the matter Horn. And what's going

1713
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 3: on is that these glaciers ridgelines have been determining where

1714
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 3: the border is. But now the glaciers are melting climate

1715
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 3: change obviously, and as they melt, the border essentially moves,

1716
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 3: and you can't just have the border randomly moving way

1717
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 3: into someone's country or way into the other direction, right,

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01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 3: So they have to redraw the border in a way

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01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 3: that kind of suits them, that probably reflects what was

1720
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 3: going on historically. So they've been talking about it for

1721
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 3: a few years. Last year, around about May, they had

1722
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 3: a draft agreement on where the border would sit. It's

1723
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 3: been just signed by Switzerland and now we're waiting for Italy.

1724
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 3: We're waiting for Italy to decide if they like the

1725
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 3: way that the border has been has been drawn. Better

1726
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: not take too long, because the right things are going,

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01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 3: they may have to redraw it again soon, and by

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01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 3: the time Italy has agreed, who knows we're back.

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Speaker 24: I often getmo with this sort of thing, because you know,

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Speaker 24: we don't have them, do we. We just got that

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Speaker 24: big ocean on the on the edge of our bits.

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Speaker 3: Right, are you complaining that we don't have border disputes.

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Speaker 4: Me?

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Speaker 24: Perhaps it's not the best time to bring that up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, it does make things

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Speaker 3: a little bit more interesting, and it'd be more interesting

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Speaker 3: to be talking about border disputes, I suppose, than the

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Speaker 3: fact that the Prime Minister has made two hundred thousand

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Speaker 3: and on his apartment, for example.

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Speaker 24: I just like the idea of being able to stand

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Speaker 24: somewhere and go, oh, I'm in Switzerland, I'm in Italy,

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Speaker 24: I'm in Switzerland.

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Speaker 3: We had like a true island dwell a quarter two

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Speaker 3: the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Talks at b here.

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Speaker 3: That there's a two we ad right there. Supermarkets make

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Speaker 3: groceries cheaper year right Actually, speaking of which, the two

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Speaker 3: we ads are coming back. The billboards are coming back.

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Speaker 3: The guys who are behind the two E billboard acts

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Speaker 3: dB Breweries reckons we've got far too serious in this

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Speaker 3: country and they need to bring a bit of human back,

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Speaker 3: And I'm all up for it. But I think, I think,

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Speaker 3: I think we can all agree times have changed since

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Speaker 3: they last were doing them all but all the way

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Speaker 3: back about what twenty fourteen or something like that. There's

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Speaker 3: a whole lot of things off limits. So we'll see

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Speaker 3: how they go with that, but I am looking forward

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Speaker 3: to it. Okay, here's your BS study of the day

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Speaker 3: that I was telling you about before. Apparently if you

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Speaker 3: drive an electric vehicle, you are more likely to get dates.

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Speaker 3: This is a survey that's been published by Ford and

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Speaker 3: they reckon. They're trying to paint it as being credible

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Speaker 3: because they've got fourteen hundred motorists who participated in countries

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Speaker 3: from New Zealand to Australia, to Saudi Arabia, to Philippines,

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Speaker 3: to South Africa, to South Korea, Thailand, Vietnam, United Arab Emirates,

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Speaker 3: so you've got a whole lot in the absolutely everybody's participated.

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Speaker 3: Almost half of the respondents said they're more likely to

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Speaker 3: date someone if they own an electric vehicle. Now, they

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Speaker 3: don't give reasons why but you probably jump to your

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01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 3: own conclusions here. Maybe these people, I don't know, people

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Speaker 3: in Saudi Arabia are really keen on people who are

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01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 3: environmentally conscious, you know what I mean. They're like, don't

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01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 3: like those people burning oil. I want an electric vehicle

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Speaker 3: in my house. And maybe they also, you know, care

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01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 3: a bit like if you're driving an electric vehicle, it

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01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: shows that you're financially frugal, you're thinking about your cash.

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01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 3: On the flip side, it may show that you've got

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Speaker 3: enough money to spend on the latest gadget. Who knows

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01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: it could be any one of those things. I obviously

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Speaker 3: call BS on that immediately, because there's nothing this is

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Speaker 3: it from a lady's perspective. Obviously, I'm speaking as a woman,

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Speaker 3: the only way that I can speak. There's nothing sexy

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Speaker 3: about an electric vehicle. You'd look emasculated. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 3: say that this is a deeply unpopular thing to say,

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Speaker 3: because I'm supposed to be like rooting for electric vehicles

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: because the future and stuff. You don't look like a man,

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Speaker 3: You look like your mum's told you what to buy

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Speaker 3: and now you're worried about you know, I don't buy

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Speaker 3: a ute now you're talking about dates.

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Speaker 24: Because you don't hang on. So the whole thing about

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Speaker 24: what's he commensating for? Is he stupid V eight, stupid

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Speaker 24: exhaust and the stupid loud noises?

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Speaker 3: Is this is what your dating experience was like that

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01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 3: you were second get like playing four four G chess

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01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 3: four D chess on your partner, Like, what's going on here?

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Speaker 3: How do I under?

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Speaker 24: How do I what are you saying that? I don't

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Speaker 24: look my twenty.

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Speaker 3: Sam could have warned me that you've got an electric

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Speaker 3: car before I went on that particular.

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Speaker 24: No, I don't have It's not electric. It's just small.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what. Yeah, okay, well I'm sorry

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Speaker 3: Glenn that no look, I mean look is it is it?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Is it a beautiful car? It's red? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 3: I love it? No I date you? Yeah, okay. Digging

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01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 3: that hole very quickly and trying to get out of it.

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01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 3: Also also moving swiftly along to don't buy an electric

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Speaker 3: vehicle if you want dates, buy a ute. To the end,

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Speaker 3: eighty percent of people are worried about the maintenance costs

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Speaker 3: attached to EV's Seventy three percent are worried about range

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Speaker 3: anxiety and yet apparently sixty six percent of people are

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Speaker 3: thinking about buying an EV so corbas on that. Don't

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Speaker 3: worry about it, just carry on as you were by

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Speaker 3: you ute have a good time, nine away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Heather dupas Allen on the My Costing break lift with

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Speaker 3: Said, b hither you're laughing. Nothing says that you're compensating

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Speaker 3: for something like a city boy with a two wheel

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Speaker 3: drive ute that's from Pascal. Maybe the city boy's got

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Speaker 3: lots of car the kids and he's got to check

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Speaker 3: all the bikes in the back, because that would be

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Speaker 3: quite a convenient way of getting the kids around the town,

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01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 3: wouldn't it with the ute tray? Heather? How convenient for

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01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 3: that car study to come out when they've got a

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Speaker 3: glut in the inventory of EV's at Ford and they

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Speaker 3: can't sell them fast enough, which just generally across the thing.

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Speaker 3: You're probably right about that, Heather. Electric vehicles and dating

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01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 3: less likely, thank you, especially in Auckland. Can I tell

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Speaker 3: you what? I'll tell you what. Actually I've been thinking

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Speaker 3: why I was like, why am I feeling so passionately

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Speaker 3: about hypothetically being a married woman never dating somebody who

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Speaker 3: drives an electric vehicle. And I think it's the too

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Speaker 3: much concerned thing, Like if you're that concerned about either

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Speaker 3: your money or your appearances all the climate, I feel

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01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 3: like you're coming with it like a preloaded amount of anxiety.

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Speaker 3: And I'm bringing a lot of that to the relationship already,

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Speaker 3: so I probably don't need that. So I think that

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Speaker 3: ultimately is the problem right there, Like let the ladies

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Speaker 3: do the anxiety, Let the dudes just do the free thinking,

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Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Five away from.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Chris Kostofferson, sad News passed away yesterday country music

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Speaker 3: superstarf if you don't know who he is, Hollywood icon,

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Speaker 3: a bit of a hot bay back in the day

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Speaker 3: eighty eight years old. Tributes have been flowing from across

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Speaker 3: the world because he was so iconic, including this very

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Speaker 3: famous Hollywood actor who's played one of Christofferson's songs while

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Speaker 3: surrounded by goats to indicate indicate that Chris Christofferson obviously

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Speaker 3: is a goat. Have a little from Yeah, that's not

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Speaker 3: the that's not the percussion being out that's just a goat.

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Speaker 3: Somebody kind of talked to the goats beforehand.

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Speaker 25: I feel like the gats add to it more when

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Speaker 25: you can see them rather than when you're just listening

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Speaker 25: to them, Because when.

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Speaker 3: You're just listening to that irritating like a toddler, aren't

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Speaker 3: they What are they doing? If you can see them, Glenn.

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Speaker 25: They're quite interested in just what he's doing instead of

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Speaker 25: looking quite close but not playing the guitar.

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Speaker 3: He, by the way, is Kevin Bacon, who actually isn't

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Speaker 3: bad at all. And fun fact, because I had assumed

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Speaker 3: that Chris Christofferson was a made up name, like he'd

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Speaker 3: obviously been born something really.

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Speaker 4: One of the greatest, there we go.

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Speaker 3: Just let Kevin sign off the end of the song.

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Speaker 3: I just assumed that he'd been born with a boring

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Speaker 3: name like Dave Small or something like that, and then

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Speaker 3: they'd gone, that's dull. I'll become Chris Christofferson and sort

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Speaker 3: of do the like you know, repetitive thing that sometimes happens. No,

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Speaker 3: his parents called him Christopher Christofferson in a in a

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Speaker 3: joke to the universe, and it's look at how well

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01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 3: it did him. So there you go. If like me,

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01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 3: you're wondering what on earth to name your baby, just

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01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 3: go for a little rhyming thing there, I suppose. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: it's probably not good advice to leave you worth on

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Speaker 3: a Tuesday and just throw that right out there. Hold

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Speaker 3: onto the evy advice. Forget about the name. Could you

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Speaker 3: allen allen.

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Speaker 15: It?

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Speaker 3: Come on, there are worse considerations currently, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's not bad. I'll put that right in

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01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 3: the listen put it. Put it up there. See how

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Speaker 3: it goes, works for it works for boy or girl

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01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 3: does who knows? Enjoy your day, See you tomorrow new

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Speaker 3: Still Zebbie.

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