1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Women, children and shorter people should be offered smaller portions 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: than the average meal size. This is an advisor to 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: the UK government. This is what they think. Professor Navid 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Satar says portion size is partly to blame for our 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: obesity crisis. He wants food outlets to offer two different 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: portion sizes to people to account for adult males and 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: then smaller people. So presumably you're putting short people, children 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: and women all into one camp. Nutritionist Mickey Willarden is 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: with me and let's discuss Mickey, good evening, Hey Ryan, 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: how are you good? Thank you? Is how much of 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: a you know, in terms of the big obesity problem, 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: how much of a contributor is portion size? 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I guess if we're thinking about restaurants, 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: people eat out maybe one to three times a week, 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: so in terms of the number of meals, not that much. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: But the modern food environment where food is available everywhere 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: and the portion sizes are pretty like big competitor, you know, 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: when we were I don't know, kids, I think it 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: is actually a big contributor, right. 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: More so than what's on the plate. It's how big 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: the plate is. 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: Well, what's on the plate obviously contributes to because many 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 2: of the foods that are sort of higher or sorry, 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: bigger portion sizes are also hyperpalatable, which just means that 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: our brains are going to sort of be queued into 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: eating more than we need because of the way that 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: they're processed. So it's definitely both. 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: And in terms of portion sizes, is it true that 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: women eat less than men? Like, have we done studies 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: and confirmed that or is it just that because they're, 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, on the whole a little smaller than men 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: that they we think they will. 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's probably both. Actually, Ryan like women 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: carry less muscle mass there and this is all generalization obviously, 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: but generally speaking, men have more muscle mass, they're men, 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: bullet rates are higher, they do require more energy. But 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: of course, I mean that's very generalized because each individual 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: is different. But I think on a population basis, it's 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: a pretty safe assumption, though I will say I wouldn't 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: necessarily sort of base it on sex. 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: For example. Yeah, what about that this idea of a 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: portion's a different portion size at a restaurant, Like, it 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: doesn't make much sense to me because when you go out, 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: you're normally going out because you're going to have a 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: nice meal, and it doesn't matter whether you're a man 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: or a woman. You're you know, you're finishing that plate, 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: you know. So is it really a good idea? 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: Well, I guess it depends on where you eat at, right, 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: because there are some restaurants where it's not about the 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: portion size, it's about the food, it's about the ambience, 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: the environment. I believe that the professor was sort of 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: just talking about meals outside the home, which does sort 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: of encompass you know, snack bars and fast foods and 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: things like that. And I do think actually offering smaller 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: portions isn't a bad idea. I mean, no one's going 56 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: to be missing out. I mean, I think to say 57 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: that it's a male versus female thing, I don't necessarily 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: think that's the thing to focus on, but I do 59 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: think offering smaller portion sizes isn't a bad option. 60 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: Mickey Willard and Nutrition has appreciate your time. Thanks for 61 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: being on the program. For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, 62 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.