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Speaker 2: Hello you great, you said, as Welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number one six three. We've just

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Speaker 2: got off here. I got pretty heated at the end.

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Speaker 2: I've been called a more on a lot over the

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Speaker 2: text machine at Newstalk ZB, but I think today takes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, someone did mention this was one of the top

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Speaker 3: twenty dum dumbest things you've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: And it's not easy to get into the top twenty

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Speaker 2: dumbest things I've ever said to break into that that

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Speaker 2: that that incredibly competitive zone of stupid things that I've said.

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Speaker 3: To get on the highlight reel. That stuff.

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Speaker 2: Even it's like it's like being a Formula One driver.

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Speaker 2: There's only there's only twenty slots. Yeah, and if you

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Speaker 2: I don't know if any anyone will have a podium

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's hard to get in there.

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Speaker 2: But you know, just just to be in the conversation

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Speaker 2: of the stupidest things I've ever said.

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Speaker 3: To get a personal best today, you know one of them.

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Speaker 2: Let's and out for that. Also some fantastic of really

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Speaker 2: Injuries and unfortunate incidents that have happened to people when

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Speaker 3: Without travel insurance. But it was a great show. I

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Speaker 3: Very very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Thursday's show.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic to your company. As always, you're in the right

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Speaker 3: just quickly before we get to the show apropos of nothing,

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Speaker 3: but I need some ideas on what to do with

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Speaker 3: a heck of a lot of papaya. You've come into

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Speaker 3: some papaya. I've come into some papaya. And I'll tell

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Speaker 3: fruiting some sort of fruit. I had no idea. I

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Speaker 3: do with all those papaya? So what do you mean papaya?

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Speaker 3: So you got You're inundated with papaya. So now I've

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a lovely, fleshy, melany kind of fruit. To

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Speaker 3: Mate, I can only have so much fruit salad and

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Speaker 3: put it on my corneres. Bring a papya, and Oli,

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Speaker 3: bring a papya, and Ali that I'll give you a papye. Andrew,

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Speaker 3: I've got ten sittings standing by, ready to go five

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Speaker 2: Beautiful color, Well, Papaya is a beautiful color and important

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Speaker 2: Bruce McLaren, when looking for a color for his IF

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Speaker 3: And do you know why I picked papye?

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Speaker 2: so there's so much to do with Papa.

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Speaker 3: I've got some work to do this week. And jeez,

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Speaker 3: the show Better Living everybody after three o'clock. Japanese walking

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Speaker 2: Because in my book, maybe I've got old fashioned values

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Speaker 2: he'll be ripping the house pieces. But a walk is

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock. Step parents, so Catherine's Wo's nagger, the daughter,

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Speaker 2: I'll take the papya. A few lemon or lime on.

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Speaker 2: Papya is yummy. There's so much papiya stuff. There're at

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Speaker 3: So step parents, step parents, So this is going to

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Speaker 2: That's because you get the line that you used to

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Speaker 3: You're not my real mom, yep. Or should you just

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Speaker 3: getting into trouble overseas. What was meant to be an

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Speaker 2: Yeah, although you know it's not just third world countries,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's pretty good if you get injured

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Speaker 2: So much papa chat. There's so many people that want

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Speaker 3: I've made promises I can't keep here. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: send me the papaya. There's a lot of good deals

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Speaker 3: coming for the papaya, right, I'll sort it out.

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Speaker 2: This has remind me of Kramer off Sigekaaya.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, first time listener, second time course.

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Speaker 6: Welcome, let's call here.

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Speaker 7: the Precision Watch Company. Bro, They'll take care of your

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Speaker 3: Well that the Precision Watch Company.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Precision Watch Company. They be so like the

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, it's just just just some background on that

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Speaker 6: Many bought it.

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Speaker 7: They had penicillin, which was kind of caught found out

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Speaker 7: I had a guy turned up at my door actually

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And he was like, Hi, I'm from such a

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Speaker 9: And he was.

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Speaker 6: Oh, and that was the end of it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Brian, you just cut out there at a critical moment.

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Speaker 3: But there's so interesting. So that their tentacles extended all

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Speaker 7: All the way they obviously had some person living in

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Speaker 6: We found them.

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Speaker 7: He's in blah blah blah and Norbland and did that.

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Speaker 3: And then when you when the person actually knocked on

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Speaker 3: They the email stopped, just stopped.

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Speaker 7: All of it stopped. But the thing that get this,

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Speaker 7: how the hell did they know where I looked?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you didn't you didn't give you didn't

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I might have a I was pretty out

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Speaker 9: And because I don't know, tooth pain is so bad.

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Speaker 3: But right, all right, I'm sure you get insurance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good, Thank you so much, Brian. I mean that's

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Speaker 3: They had to ropen. I would argue that would cost

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, you would think, because you know situations and countries.

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Speaker 3: I can never go back again, but I'm out on

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Speaker 3: Golden Brian. Great story. Thank you very much. O. One

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call. When

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Speaker 3: have you gotten into trouble overseas by being injured or

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Speaker 3: getting crook? Love to hear your stories. Twenty three past one.

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Speaker 1: Digging into the issues that affect you the mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: I know that boys need a single classroom to concentrate, right,

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Speaker 3: They really need to be able to not be distracted.

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Speaker 9: I think probably there is a difference, a slight difference,

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Speaker 3: Who would have thought that silence promotes concentrating? Hang on

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Speaker 3: when I was in Space five at Fendlton Primary in

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Speaker 3: the seventies when Robert Muldoon was Prime Minister. Yes, whose

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Speaker 1: at six am with Bailey's Real Estate on News Talk SEDB.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. We're talking about getting into

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Speaker 3: and we were just talking to who was it before?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Brian, Brian, Brian. We're just talking to Brian before

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Speaker 2: great call. And he was saying here he was chased

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Speaker 2: that's Texa through New Zealand is pretty slack collecting hospital fees,

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Speaker 2: the money like the Yanks do. This sexus is does

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Speaker 2: a broken heart qualify as an injury?

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Speaker 3: I think it does. Can you be great if you

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Speaker 2: Marriage cousin, same people be pretty debilitated by a broken heart. Seefferently,

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Speaker 2: I'll say, you know I had a mate partner cheated

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Speaker 3: It sucks a c. C. Schudicularly cover that. Gail. Welcome

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Speaker 11: Likewise, with regards to insurance, my husband is seventy one,

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Speaker 11: we were traveling on a twelve day cruise through Asia,

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Speaker 11: and we took insurance in case there was an accident,

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Speaker 11: you know, the usual thing you would do. Now we

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Speaker 11: and so we ended up having to go to the hospital.

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Speaker 11: We got we went into a to Singapore's Yeah, to

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Speaker 11: He was seen by a specialist, admitted to the hospital,

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Speaker 3: It's terrifying for a lot of people when they get

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Speaker 11: to pay for that.

436
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Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness you had the five thousand dollars to pay,

437
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Speaker 2: or else what would have happened.

438
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Speaker 11: Yes, at our age and traveling. Fortunately we've retired well

439
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Speaker 11: enough off that we can afford to do it. But

440
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Speaker 11: a lot of people can't do that, especially you know,

441
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Speaker 11: the younger ones.

442
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your cool Gail. It's

443
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Speaker 2: interesting with travel insurance. We were just talking about this before,

444
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Speaker 2: won't we tie left and I get trouble insurance, But

445
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Speaker 2: I've never looked at what.

446
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Speaker 3: It covers me for. Yeah, I just go. I've got

447
00:20:12,413 --> 00:20:13,613
Speaker 3: travel insurance. Yeap.

448
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Speaker 2: You know you don't go as a pre existing conditions

449
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Speaker 2: as gales. This situation was there. I mean, I've got

450
00:20:20,173 --> 00:20:22,493
Speaker 2: no idea what it covers. I've never had to use it,

451
00:20:22,533 --> 00:20:23,853
Speaker 2: but I have no idea what it covers.

452
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Speaker 3: Well, I told you the story of my older brother's

453
00:20:26,173 --> 00:20:28,773
Speaker 3: friend when they were working up a mountain in California

454
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Speaker 3: and he tried to break up a fight in a

455
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Speaker 3: bar and he got hit and lost a few teeth

456
00:20:33,413 --> 00:20:35,493
Speaker 3: and had it had travel insurance, but it didn't cover

457
00:20:35,573 --> 00:20:39,493
Speaker 3: dental and ended up costing him twenty five thousand dollars. Wow. Yeah,

458
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Speaker 3: so that was a real blow. I mean that was

459
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Speaker 3: the end of his trip over in California working in

460
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Speaker 3: a mountain. He had to come home and try and

461
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Speaker 3: find that twenty five game.

462
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Speaker 5: Wow.

463
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

464
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Speaker 2: If you travel overseas, says Grants, no matter where you're traveling,

465
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Speaker 2: travel insurance and medical insurance cover as a must, or

466
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Speaker 2: you can end up in debt for years and years

467
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Speaker 2: and years. Anyone who doesn't do this.

468
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Speaker 3: Deserves what's coming to them, ruthless. Thank you very much, Grant. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of people saying that. Yeah. Oh wait,

470
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Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to cool.

471
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Speaker 3: Love to hear your stories. We've got railings standing by

472
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Speaker 3: then we'll pick this back up. Yeah, we've got Pete

473
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Speaker 3: who's mum ran into trouble in joe Burg. All this

474
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Speaker 3: is going to be spicy. Hal past one.

475
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Speaker 12: Youth talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

476
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Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. Latest figures show the

477
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Speaker 12: surge and the price of basics over the past year,

478
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Speaker 12: including power rising more than ten percent and gas more

479
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Speaker 12: than sixteen Food hikes include mutton and lamb rising twenty

480
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Speaker 12: five percent, with beef and veal close behind, cheese spiraling

481
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Speaker 12: up seventeen and milk thirteen point two. Labour's leader says

482
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Speaker 12: he's skeptical about government calls for Council to cut spending

483
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Speaker 12: and asks how else to fund infrastructure if not through rates.

484
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Speaker 12: The Green say the reason kiwi's are leaving and droves

485
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Speaker 12: is rising unemployment and sanctions on beneficiaries unable to find work.

486
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Speaker 12: Eight thousand more people were on a main benefit in

487
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Speaker 12: June compared to March. The government's had one expression of

488
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Speaker 12: interest for a new charter school in the latest application window.

489
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Speaker 12: Eight schools have now opened. Police in Thailand have arrested

490
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Speaker 12: a woman for having sex with monks and then blackmailing

491
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Speaker 12: them with photos and videos. Stay on your side of

492
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Speaker 12: the bombays to do a developers swipe at Auckland Firms.

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Speaker 12: You can read more at enzid Herald Premium. Back to

494
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Speaker 12: matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're discussing the story

496
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Speaker 3: of a young New Zealand woman called Ory Law. She

497
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Speaker 3: was in Vietnam to celebrate her eighteenth birthday and became

498
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Speaker 3: incredibly unwell. She was diagnosed with what's called GBES. It's

499
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Speaker 3: an autoimmune disease in which the body attacks itself instead

500
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Speaker 3: of attacking an affection, leaving her paralyzed. So the family

501
00:22:55,893 --> 00:22:57,293
Speaker 3: has set up a give a little to try and

502
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Speaker 3: get her home. And a lot of people are asking

503
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Speaker 3: about travel insurance and they did have medical insurance. So

504
00:23:02,173 --> 00:23:04,293
Speaker 3: this is to cover the costs that are not covered

505
00:23:04,293 --> 00:23:08,773
Speaker 3: by that insurance policy. Yeah, and we're hearing that a lot.

506
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Speaker 3: You've got to check the fine print when you take

507
00:23:10,813 --> 00:23:12,773
Speaker 3: out travel insurance. And I don't think I don't. I

508
00:23:12,853 --> 00:23:13,293
Speaker 3: never do that.

509
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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of fine print, different story, but I got

510
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Speaker 2: in trouble overseas by getting a girl pregnant and her

511
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Speaker 2: turning up on my doorstep a year later. My advice

512
00:23:22,813 --> 00:23:25,213
Speaker 2: is contraception that's good insurance as well.

513
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is very good advice. Thank you for that,

514
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Speaker 3: Thanks for that.

515
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Speaker 10: Muz.

516
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Speaker 3: Here we go, guys.

517
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Speaker 2: My wife went to America as part of a musicool

518
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Speaker 2: group called a virus that went to her heart. Two

519
00:23:35,453 --> 00:23:38,572
Speaker 2: hour chop, a flight to Phoenix hospital, five days in

520
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Speaker 2: the cardio ward. Total bill over one hundred thousand dollars American.

521
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Speaker 3: Wow.

522
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Speaker 2: Had sweaty palms for a time while the insurance company

523
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Speaker 2: considered the claim. Eventually they paid. Thankful for the cover.

524
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Speaker 2: Don't leave home without it. That's from Cliff think if

525
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Speaker 2: your text close, great story, windy, yeah, Hi.

526
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Speaker 13: Good afternoon guys, my voice, I have.

527
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Speaker 3: A coll ah. I quite like it. It's kind, it's husky, yeah.

528
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Speaker 13: Good, which I thought like that. Travel insurance, guys, I

529
00:24:08,573 --> 00:24:10,333
Speaker 13: have a case story on that really, and I think

530
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Speaker 13: anyone who goes away overseas without travel insurance is that's mad.

531
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Speaker 13: We use a broker based in Hamilton. I am a

532
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Speaker 13: transplant recipient, so that's one thing that only one company

533
00:24:22,373 --> 00:24:24,893
Speaker 13: will actually cover me in New Zealand. Company's course, what.

534
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Speaker 3: If your head transplanted? If you don't mind me asking,

535
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Speaker 3: Wendy A lover A lover.

536
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Speaker 13: Yep, okay, so yeah, it was you put me off

537
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Speaker 13: track here.

538
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Speaker 6: Sorry, that's okay.

539
00:24:36,813 --> 00:24:41,573
Speaker 13: You have to declare all your existing conditions and anything like,

540
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Speaker 13: you know, made surgeries, et cetera. So we do that

541
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Speaker 13: and the insurance company, which is cover more will actually

542
00:24:49,733 --> 00:24:52,733
Speaker 13: decide whether they're going to cover you or not. We're

543
00:24:53,013 --> 00:24:55,413
Speaker 13: both in our late sixties, so you know there's a

544
00:24:55,413 --> 00:24:59,613
Speaker 13: bit of degeneration there as well. But they cover mostly

545
00:24:59,653 --> 00:25:01,813
Speaker 13: everything for us so far, so you do pay for that.

546
00:25:01,853 --> 00:25:05,093
Speaker 13: It's not overly cheap. But I give an example back

547
00:25:05,093 --> 00:25:07,973
Speaker 13: in twenty sixteen, I went to a conference in Dallas.

548
00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:11,333
Speaker 13: I slipped and I broke my leg badly. I had

549
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Speaker 13: to have surgery that was well over one hundred and

550
00:25:15,093 --> 00:25:16,813
Speaker 13: twenty K with the surgery alone.

551
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Speaker 2: Wow, And they did ask you if you've got insurance

552
00:25:20,573 --> 00:25:22,373
Speaker 2: straight off the bat when they start.

553
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Speaker 13: Looking at it, they did ask. They didn't first of all,

554
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Speaker 13: because they have two types of ambulance, one for the

555
00:25:29,613 --> 00:25:31,933
Speaker 13: I don't know, one for the cheaper light hospitals, et cetera.

556
00:25:32,013 --> 00:25:34,733
Speaker 13: And they took me to a pretty nasty hospital and

557
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Speaker 13: Dallas somewhere, and I didn't like the look of it

558
00:25:37,413 --> 00:25:40,573
Speaker 13: for a start. And it was a medical conference, so

559
00:25:40,693 --> 00:25:42,413
Speaker 13: some of the nurses and doctors that lived they said, no,

560
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Speaker 13: you're not staying here, and they took me to a

561
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Speaker 13: university site hospital, which was quite professional looking, and they

562
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Speaker 13: were concerned about well, they were concerned about the fact

563
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Speaker 13: of them getting paid, I guess. But once a knew

564
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Speaker 13: I had that, everything was okay. So they went I

565
00:25:55,693 --> 00:25:58,133
Speaker 13: went through the surgery. I stayed with a couple of

566
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Speaker 13: friends after then, because they arranged for a nurse to

567
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Speaker 13: fly over. An insurance company arrange for a nurse to

568
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Speaker 13: fly from in Zed to Dallas, put her up for

569
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Speaker 13: a night so then meet with me and fly back

570
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Speaker 13: with me first class to New Zealand because I needed

571
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Speaker 13: various medications and injections over the flight.

572
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Speaker 6: Wow, so that didn't cost.

573
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Speaker 13: Me your sin? I mean I couldn't. I mean I

574
00:26:19,973 --> 00:26:21,573
Speaker 13: would have had to have paid it somehow when I

575
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Speaker 13: got back. But now we were into cruising and we're

576
00:26:25,453 --> 00:26:27,773
Speaker 13: coming out to do our eleventh and you need good

577
00:26:27,773 --> 00:26:30,853
Speaker 13: cover for that, and we pay anywhere between one and

578
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Speaker 13: two grand, depending on what part of the world we're

579
00:26:32,773 --> 00:26:35,613
Speaker 13: going to. But we know we're fully covered even for

580
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Speaker 13: our pre existing conditions.

581
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Speaker 2: Is there any places that you wouldn't go to just

582
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Speaker 2: because no matter what insurance you have, the facilities wouldn't

583
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Speaker 2: be there to deal with you.

584
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Speaker 3: Know what what you're what you've got your your liver situation.

585
00:26:50,853 --> 00:26:53,973
Speaker 13: Yeah, well I have a perfectly fine liver. Now, there's

586
00:26:54,013 --> 00:26:56,053
Speaker 13: nothing actually wrong with my liver. That's in the fact,

587
00:26:56,533 --> 00:26:57,693
Speaker 13: it's actually not you know.

588
00:26:57,653 --> 00:26:58,453
Speaker 4: It's a new one.

589
00:26:58,333 --> 00:27:00,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good liver.

590
00:27:00,973 --> 00:27:03,653
Speaker 13: Yeah, well it is. And and actually there's nothing much

591
00:27:03,653 --> 00:27:07,133
Speaker 13: else wrong except for degeneration. Really, but what what does

592
00:27:07,133 --> 00:27:10,173
Speaker 13: annoying me is no other it will take me because

593
00:27:10,173 --> 00:27:12,573
Speaker 13: I actually had a liver tumor, and so if I

594
00:27:12,613 --> 00:27:15,693
Speaker 13: tried another company, which I did, I said, you know,

595
00:27:15,733 --> 00:27:17,093
Speaker 13: I have a new liver and they said, well why

596
00:27:17,093 --> 00:27:18,773
Speaker 13: did you get a transplant? It so because I had

597
00:27:18,853 --> 00:27:21,733
Speaker 13: a tumor. Oh sorry, no, we can't cover you. I said, well,

598
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Speaker 13: tell me that if I had breast cancer and had

599
00:27:23,733 --> 00:27:24,733
Speaker 13: it removed.

600
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Speaker 6: What I recovered?

601
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Speaker 13: Oh yes, I said, well I don't have the liver anymore,

602
00:27:28,293 --> 00:27:30,893
Speaker 13: so I don't have cancer. No, sorry, I can't cover you.

603
00:27:30,933 --> 00:27:32,453
Speaker 13: Which it's a bit I thought. I don't know why.

604
00:27:32,573 --> 00:27:34,453
Speaker 13: I can't quite get to the bottom of that. But anyway,

605
00:27:34,573 --> 00:27:36,733
Speaker 13: it doesn't matter because I found what I considered to

606
00:27:36,733 --> 00:27:40,292
Speaker 13: be the best cover in New Zealand, and I belonged

607
00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:43,493
Speaker 13: to a group of many liver transplant recipients. So when

608
00:27:43,533 --> 00:27:45,653
Speaker 13: they want to go and travel, the same question comes out,

609
00:27:45,693 --> 00:27:48,413
Speaker 13: who's going to cover me? And that's cover more. They're

610
00:27:48,453 --> 00:27:52,253
Speaker 13: amazing and estilian those companies. And if you don't, if

611
00:27:52,293 --> 00:27:54,093
Speaker 13: you don't make you know, do the proper job and

612
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:57,773
Speaker 13: check out for proper insurance. Don't trust your bank cards

613
00:27:58,333 --> 00:28:00,533
Speaker 13: because I used that once and we had to cancel

614
00:28:00,573 --> 00:28:03,733
Speaker 13: a trip because of COVID and they wouldn't cover.

615
00:28:03,893 --> 00:28:07,133
Speaker 3: It's a good point. That would be a cheap ones, wouldn't, Wendy,

616
00:28:07,173 --> 00:28:09,213
Speaker 3: you know, buy and large. I think if your travel

617
00:28:09,213 --> 00:28:12,093
Speaker 3: insurance is covered by a card, they would go for

618
00:28:12,293 --> 00:28:15,213
Speaker 3: one of the ones that don't have as much cover

619
00:28:15,373 --> 00:28:18,253
Speaker 3: as you would get independently. Just my assumption here. If

620
00:28:18,253 --> 00:28:20,053
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, oh, e one hundred and eighteen eighty.

621
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for you call Wendy. Good

622
00:28:21,493 --> 00:28:24,093
Speaker 2: luck with your your cold and your croaky throat and

623
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Speaker 2: your liver and your travel.

624
00:28:25,333 --> 00:28:27,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck. Good a story, all right, We've gotta

625
00:28:27,733 --> 00:28:29,333
Speaker 3: play some messages when we come back. We've got full

626
00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:30,933
Speaker 3: boards if you can't get through, Oh, eight hundred and

627
00:28:30,973 --> 00:28:32,253
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty, and.

628
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Speaker 2: We've got to go to Johannesburg where Pete's mum has

629
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Speaker 2: got into trouble.

630
00:28:35,213 --> 00:28:37,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've teased that a lot. So Peter's coming up next.

631
00:28:38,813 --> 00:28:41,173
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

632
00:28:41,293 --> 00:28:45,573
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks, they'd.

633
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Speaker 3: Be very good afternoons. You have you found yourself in

634
00:28:48,253 --> 00:28:51,613
Speaker 3: trouble overseas after being injured or found yourself sick. This

635
00:28:51,733 --> 00:28:53,853
Speaker 3: is a heck of a text a get a guys.

636
00:28:53,893 --> 00:28:56,533
Speaker 3: A California hospital wouldn't let my mate's dad out unless

637
00:28:56,573 --> 00:28:59,053
Speaker 3: he paid one million New Wes dollars. It took a

638
00:28:59,053 --> 00:29:01,813
Speaker 3: while before insurance company came through. His sons were at

639
00:29:01,813 --> 00:29:03,853
Speaker 3: the point of smuggling him out the back door. Wow.

640
00:29:04,093 --> 00:29:04,573
Speaker 3: And so he.

641
00:29:06,533 --> 00:29:10,013
Speaker 2: Had an insurance. So yeah, had insurance at that stage.

642
00:29:10,053 --> 00:29:13,533
Speaker 2: That's interesting, Pete, Thanks for holding on.

643
00:29:14,773 --> 00:29:16,893
Speaker 14: No problem, Jay, Matt and Tyler love the show.

644
00:29:18,653 --> 00:29:18,853
Speaker 8: Yes.

645
00:29:19,053 --> 00:29:23,173
Speaker 14: About twelve years ago, my mum was traveling through Africa

646
00:29:23,213 --> 00:29:27,653
Speaker 14: with my sister and her husband and family and they

647
00:29:27,693 --> 00:29:30,173
Speaker 14: dropped her at bough at bots at an airport in

648
00:29:30,253 --> 00:29:34,013
Speaker 14: Botswana where she was flying to joe Burg to fly

649
00:29:34,173 --> 00:29:38,493
Speaker 14: home the pretty much the next day, staying overnight in

650
00:29:38,573 --> 00:29:41,653
Speaker 14: joe Big. But she got she they dropped at the airport.

651
00:29:41,773 --> 00:29:42,413
Speaker 5: She was fine.

652
00:29:42,973 --> 00:29:45,613
Speaker 14: She got to joe Burg and she was disorientated and

653
00:29:46,813 --> 00:29:50,773
Speaker 14: she was sort of wandering around and a guy was

654
00:29:50,813 --> 00:29:53,933
Speaker 14: there to pick her up, but she, like I said,

655
00:29:53,973 --> 00:29:58,173
Speaker 14: she was quite sort of not quite with it. But

656
00:29:58,773 --> 00:30:01,693
Speaker 14: he eventually worked out who it was and took her

657
00:30:01,693 --> 00:30:04,493
Speaker 14: back to the accommodation and wondering what was up. And

658
00:30:04,613 --> 00:30:07,453
Speaker 14: that night she fell over and broke her collar bone

659
00:30:07,493 --> 00:30:11,333
Speaker 14: and did some stuff to herself, and he tried to

660
00:30:11,333 --> 00:30:15,293
Speaker 14: get her into three different hospitals in Johannesburg, but none

661
00:30:15,333 --> 00:30:19,133
Speaker 14: of them would take here. She had visa travel insurance

662
00:30:19,213 --> 00:30:24,773
Speaker 14: and they didn't like, for whatever reason, the fact that

663
00:30:24,813 --> 00:30:28,333
Speaker 14: she liked her whatever insurance she had, And so the

664
00:30:28,413 --> 00:30:32,773
Speaker 14: guy at the hospital had to end up paying thousands

665
00:30:32,813 --> 00:30:36,253
Speaker 14: and thousands of rain to get her into a hospital.

666
00:30:37,613 --> 00:30:38,373
Speaker 6: In joe Burg.

667
00:30:38,493 --> 00:30:41,933
Speaker 14: And so, as a family, we get a call late

668
00:30:41,933 --> 00:30:44,853
Speaker 14: at night and I was watching a Hurricanes game. My

669
00:30:44,933 --> 00:30:46,973
Speaker 14: dad calls me and said, something's happened to mom. She's

670
00:30:46,973 --> 00:30:50,413
Speaker 14: in the hospital. And so me and my brother, my

671
00:30:52,653 --> 00:30:54,853
Speaker 14: brother in lawa Ed's sister were in the middle of

672
00:30:54,893 --> 00:30:58,573
Speaker 14: the Kalahari did it so they couldn't be contacted. And

673
00:30:59,013 --> 00:31:05,853
Speaker 14: me and my brother jumped on a plane the next day. Yeah,

674
00:31:06,373 --> 00:31:10,533
Speaker 14: flew to joe Burg and literally walked in the door

675
00:31:12,213 --> 00:31:15,733
Speaker 14: into her room and the neurologist came in with an

676
00:31:15,733 --> 00:31:19,253
Speaker 14: ex with the skins and that, and they found a

677
00:31:19,253 --> 00:31:23,493
Speaker 14: big brain tumor. So wow, yeah, it was it was

678
00:31:23,533 --> 00:31:29,973
Speaker 14: a shocker. But yeah, the the insurance, I'm not I

679
00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:33,373
Speaker 14: can't remember the exact details around why she got turned

680
00:31:33,413 --> 00:31:40,013
Speaker 14: away for from three other hospitals, but it was very,

681
00:31:40,133 --> 00:31:42,813
Speaker 14: very fortunate that the guy was willing to put up

682
00:31:42,813 --> 00:31:46,573
Speaker 14: his own money because she knew no one over there,

683
00:31:46,693 --> 00:31:52,053
Speaker 14: you know, there was in Johannesburg. So yeah, and.

684
00:31:51,813 --> 00:31:53,733
Speaker 3: And how did that all play out with your with

685
00:31:53,773 --> 00:31:54,973
Speaker 3: your mum's tumor.

686
00:31:56,933 --> 00:32:00,453
Speaker 14: Not Well, she passed away ten months after that.

687
00:32:00,813 --> 00:32:01,933
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that.

688
00:32:02,173 --> 00:32:05,973
Speaker 14: Yeah, but no, but I mean the the insurance came

689
00:32:06,013 --> 00:32:08,933
Speaker 14: through in the end. They covered mine and my brother costs,

690
00:32:09,133 --> 00:32:13,133
Speaker 14: and they managed to track down my brother in law

691
00:32:13,133 --> 00:32:15,733
Speaker 14: and sister. Someone left a note by a tent and

692
00:32:15,813 --> 00:32:17,933
Speaker 14: it all worked out and Ajoe so the night. So

693
00:32:18,813 --> 00:32:23,253
Speaker 14: it was and they paid the two doctors, a doctor

694
00:32:23,293 --> 00:32:26,773
Speaker 14: and a nurse to escort her home in New Zealand.

695
00:32:26,893 --> 00:32:29,173
Speaker 2: So your mom must have been a great person to

696
00:32:29,173 --> 00:32:32,173
Speaker 2: have so many family members that are willing to drop everything,

697
00:32:32,493 --> 00:32:34,573
Speaker 2: you know that loved her and willing to drop everything

698
00:32:34,613 --> 00:32:35,933
Speaker 2: and go and help out.

699
00:32:37,253 --> 00:32:39,613
Speaker 14: One hundred percent. Yeah, and she was a royal in

700
00:32:39,693 --> 00:32:43,053
Speaker 14: tripid traveler. She'd think to Africa sort of you know,

701
00:32:43,213 --> 00:32:47,973
Speaker 14: ten times and loved the place. And yeah, she was, yeah,

702
00:32:48,173 --> 00:32:48,973
Speaker 14: amazing person.

703
00:32:49,053 --> 00:32:49,453
Speaker 4: Yeah.

704
00:32:49,613 --> 00:32:51,733
Speaker 2: Did you manage to get her back into New Zealand

705
00:32:52,013 --> 00:32:52,973
Speaker 2: her for her treatment?

706
00:32:54,253 --> 00:32:54,733
Speaker 6: We did.

707
00:32:54,813 --> 00:32:59,093
Speaker 14: Yeah, she had surgery and Wellington and yeah, she just

708
00:32:59,213 --> 00:33:02,893
Speaker 14: kind of it was like the most aggressive brainch im

709
00:33:03,013 --> 00:33:09,213
Speaker 14: can pretty much get. So yeah, she time to like

710
00:33:09,533 --> 00:33:11,573
Speaker 14: nine months and passed away.

711
00:33:12,053 --> 00:33:15,293
Speaker 3: Oh sorry to hear that, Pete, But yeah, sounds like

712
00:33:15,333 --> 00:33:17,693
Speaker 3: a fantastic person and you sound like a fantastic son.

713
00:33:18,813 --> 00:33:19,733
Speaker 14: Oh, thank you very much.

714
00:33:19,853 --> 00:33:21,973
Speaker 3: Than you're a good man, Pete. Thank you very much

715
00:33:21,973 --> 00:33:22,733
Speaker 3: for giving us a buzz.

716
00:33:22,773 --> 00:33:26,333
Speaker 2: I mean, that's going through something like that and discovering

717
00:33:26,333 --> 00:33:27,453
Speaker 2: it on the other side of the world.

718
00:33:27,613 --> 00:33:31,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy puts things into perspective, that's for sure. One

719
00:33:31,533 --> 00:33:33,733
Speaker 3: and eighteen eighty is the number to call. Love to

720
00:33:33,773 --> 00:33:36,613
Speaker 3: hear your stories. Colin. How are you?

721
00:33:37,653 --> 00:33:40,013
Speaker 9: Yeah, very good, Thanks very much. Here, We're sorry here

722
00:33:40,053 --> 00:33:43,013
Speaker 9: that last one. Great show today, Thank you enjoying it.

723
00:33:43,973 --> 00:33:47,813
Speaker 9: My little one was I was on the third motorbike

724
00:33:47,853 --> 00:33:50,893
Speaker 9: tour from the States, and I'm pretty stafe for writing

725
00:33:51,373 --> 00:33:54,973
Speaker 9: rather Harley of course, always for a helmet accept us.

726
00:33:55,013 --> 00:33:59,293
Speaker 9: One particular moment, we're going we're in a national park

727
00:33:59,693 --> 00:34:05,053
Speaker 9: or out by mob place called Kenyon Lands, just up

728
00:34:05,093 --> 00:34:07,813
Speaker 9: from Marchers, and the slady pulled out in front of

729
00:34:07,813 --> 00:34:11,053
Speaker 9: me from the side roads and see me and I

730
00:34:11,172 --> 00:34:14,053
Speaker 9: collected her at fifty mile an hour. The head flamed

731
00:34:14,053 --> 00:34:16,133
Speaker 9: into the side of the car, did a big somersault

732
00:34:16,172 --> 00:34:17,813
Speaker 9: lander on my face on the other side. I ended

733
00:34:17,853 --> 00:34:20,533
Speaker 9: up with forty seven stitches on my head. I've broken

734
00:34:20,613 --> 00:34:25,133
Speaker 9: bones and a couple of snapped tendons, but that was okay.

735
00:34:25,533 --> 00:34:30,053
Speaker 9: Night in the hospital, she had to pay all the costic.

736
00:34:30,253 --> 00:34:34,453
Speaker 9: It was over forty thousand dollars for what had been

737
00:34:34,493 --> 00:34:37,613
Speaker 9: done because she admitted at the site because she thought

738
00:34:37,613 --> 00:34:40,093
Speaker 9: she killed me, and she admitted there on camera, and

739
00:34:40,133 --> 00:34:42,013
Speaker 9: that sort of stuff was there fault, she didn't see me.

740
00:34:42,693 --> 00:34:45,133
Speaker 9: That was all fine, got all that done. They wanted

741
00:34:45,133 --> 00:34:46,573
Speaker 9: to send me home, but I stayed there for the

742
00:34:46,573 --> 00:34:49,093
Speaker 9: next three three and a half weeks that the tour

743
00:34:49,173 --> 00:34:51,453
Speaker 9: was still to run side. There was half of the

744
00:34:51,533 --> 00:34:56,293
Speaker 9: van had travel insurance, and I can't believe anybody travels

745
00:34:56,293 --> 00:34:59,573
Speaker 9: overseas without travel insurance. I know a guy that lost

746
00:34:59,573 --> 00:35:03,253
Speaker 9: his freehold home because he couldn't pay the bills when

747
00:35:03,293 --> 00:35:04,933
Speaker 9: he got injured, because it was never going.

748
00:35:04,933 --> 00:35:05,493
Speaker 6: To happen to him.

749
00:35:05,493 --> 00:35:12,773
Speaker 9: But anyway home, and I contacted my travel insurance allience.

750
00:35:12,853 --> 00:35:17,293
Speaker 9: So I'm not sure where they are singing Australia, and

751
00:35:17,373 --> 00:35:19,413
Speaker 9: I told them they didn't have to cover anything at all,

752
00:35:19,453 --> 00:35:22,533
Speaker 9: but they were advised of it. And the day before

753
00:35:22,573 --> 00:35:25,373
Speaker 9: I flew back, they contacted me and told me that,

754
00:35:26,053 --> 00:35:29,173
Speaker 9: you know, because of what had happened, that upgraded me

755
00:35:29,293 --> 00:35:33,013
Speaker 9: from Premium economy to business class on the way home. Wow,

756
00:35:33,053 --> 00:35:35,652
Speaker 9: And I still, that's fantastic, thanks very much. I really

757
00:35:35,653 --> 00:35:37,613
Speaker 9: appreciate that. Oh no, you know, it was one of

758
00:35:37,613 --> 00:35:39,813
Speaker 9: those things and it didn't cost us anything something a

759
00:35:39,853 --> 00:35:42,613
Speaker 9: small christ pass and it's really great. So I came

760
00:35:42,653 --> 00:35:43,973
Speaker 9: in business class.

761
00:35:44,893 --> 00:35:46,253
Speaker 3: Wow, contacted a lawyer in.

762
00:35:46,253 --> 00:35:48,732
Speaker 9: The States and ended up getting PAI out of nearly

763
00:35:48,733 --> 00:35:51,333
Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty thousand minus his fees, which was

764
00:35:51,453 --> 00:35:56,413
Speaker 9: thirty thousand third right about six meters. Yes, somehow rather

765
00:35:56,413 --> 00:36:01,293
Speaker 9: alliots must have been coming into the emails, and they

766
00:36:01,533 --> 00:36:03,813
Speaker 9: contacted the lawyer and told him he wasn't pay out

767
00:36:03,853 --> 00:36:06,533
Speaker 9: anything until they had got their money back for upgrading

768
00:36:06,533 --> 00:36:10,093
Speaker 9: me to business class. It was only about three or

769
00:36:10,093 --> 00:36:12,373
Speaker 9: four thousand dollars. But I've got me because of a

770
00:36:12,413 --> 00:36:14,173
Speaker 9: twist on when you can go to bloody help you

771
00:36:14,253 --> 00:36:17,573
Speaker 9: what they offered. Yeah, that's right, And I rang them

772
00:36:17,613 --> 00:36:19,373
Speaker 9: up and they were saying, no, no, no, you've got

773
00:36:19,373 --> 00:36:20,413
Speaker 9: to do this, and you've got to do that. And

774
00:36:20,413 --> 00:36:22,773
Speaker 9: I said, do you keep toe records of you of

775
00:36:23,213 --> 00:36:25,413
Speaker 9: you know, your phone calls to me? And she said yes,

776
00:36:25,453 --> 00:36:27,652
Speaker 9: And I said go back and check it because you

777
00:36:27,773 --> 00:36:30,053
Speaker 9: told me. I didn't ask, but you told me you

778
00:36:30,133 --> 00:36:33,652
Speaker 9: had upgrade me to business class. Yeah, and I thank

779
00:36:33,693 --> 00:36:37,013
Speaker 9: you very much for it. She says, oh, is that right?

780
00:36:37,093 --> 00:36:40,013
Speaker 9: I said, yes, you do anyway, and the sorry I

781
00:36:40,053 --> 00:36:42,973
Speaker 9: got me bunny, they didn't get this, and yeah, but

782
00:36:43,093 --> 00:36:45,333
Speaker 9: you know you've got to have and you know I'll

783
00:36:45,413 --> 00:36:47,093
Speaker 9: go back again it was It was just one of

784
00:36:47,093 --> 00:36:50,133
Speaker 9: those things. But yeah, and yes, I do still ride bikes.

785
00:36:50,133 --> 00:36:52,172
Speaker 9: I'm looking bike, but generally with.

786
00:36:52,093 --> 00:36:55,453
Speaker 3: A helmet on. Now, Colin, can you take me back

787
00:36:55,453 --> 00:36:58,213
Speaker 3: to the moment, so you hit the ground, You're injured,

788
00:36:58,253 --> 00:37:00,732
Speaker 3: your face is being scraped up at fifty miles an hour.

789
00:37:00,933 --> 00:37:03,773
Speaker 3: How does the ambulance situation pay out in the States

790
00:37:04,053 --> 00:37:05,053
Speaker 3: play out in the States?

791
00:37:06,133 --> 00:37:08,292
Speaker 9: Well, I was. I was out to it until both

792
00:37:08,333 --> 00:37:12,013
Speaker 9: believe the ambulance turned up when I, like I said,

793
00:37:12,053 --> 00:37:13,733
Speaker 9: it was only about five hundred minutes. We running going

794
00:37:13,773 --> 00:37:16,053
Speaker 9: two miles from where we stopped to the Ranger station

795
00:37:16,173 --> 00:37:18,333
Speaker 9: for a cold drinking and it was over forty degrees.

796
00:37:18,373 --> 00:37:20,373
Speaker 9: That's why I sort of left the helmet on the

797
00:37:20,413 --> 00:37:22,093
Speaker 9: back of the bike. And when I stuff running going

798
00:37:22,173 --> 00:37:23,573
Speaker 9: two miles to the ranger station.

799
00:37:24,453 --> 00:37:25,333
Speaker 6: Yeah, bad idea.

800
00:37:25,653 --> 00:37:28,493
Speaker 14: Yeah, I've literally.

801
00:37:28,133 --> 00:37:30,733
Speaker 9: Traveled tens of thousands of miles in the state, always

802
00:37:30,733 --> 00:37:31,493
Speaker 9: with my helmet off.

803
00:37:33,413 --> 00:37:36,652
Speaker 3: Murvie's law. It's always at one time, isn't it. Yeah.

804
00:37:35,853 --> 00:37:38,853
Speaker 9: But when the ambulant said, they just picked me up,

805
00:37:38,933 --> 00:37:41,213
Speaker 9: put me on a stretcher because I've been in and

806
00:37:41,253 --> 00:37:43,733
Speaker 9: out of consciousness. Apparently, I kept on trying to stand

807
00:37:43,813 --> 00:37:45,573
Speaker 9: up and saying I'll kill them so and so I'll

808
00:37:45,653 --> 00:37:50,973
Speaker 9: kill us anyway to hold me down, and that was

809
00:37:51,013 --> 00:37:52,373
Speaker 9: that was all very good, and they just took me.

810
00:37:52,493 --> 00:37:56,253
Speaker 9: Nobody mentioned anything. I think right he runs to two

811
00:37:56,293 --> 00:37:58,172
Speaker 9: and had told them we had travel.

812
00:37:58,293 --> 00:38:00,533
Speaker 2: Right, right, because I was just wondering at what point

813
00:38:00,573 --> 00:38:02,013
Speaker 2: they go, have you got travel insurance?

814
00:38:02,013 --> 00:38:04,093
Speaker 3: And decide what level of hospital they take here?

815
00:38:04,333 --> 00:38:07,653
Speaker 9: You know, I think I think this crutch came because

816
00:38:07,693 --> 00:38:11,053
Speaker 9: she had that it was kidding because it was totally

817
00:38:11,093 --> 00:38:17,053
Speaker 9: her fault on video camera on go bro right, yeah, yeah,

818
00:38:17,173 --> 00:38:19,493
Speaker 9: and boy it cost her and am.

819
00:38:19,813 --> 00:38:22,573
Speaker 3: I And how's your face now, Colin?

820
00:38:23,413 --> 00:38:25,413
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've got to go. And the boys reckon. It

821
00:38:25,453 --> 00:38:28,733
Speaker 9: looked really coold, they said, as they do. They said,

822
00:38:28,853 --> 00:38:30,652
Speaker 9: when you hit the car, your body just went the

823
00:38:30,653 --> 00:38:32,573
Speaker 9: limp and you flew through the air like the bloody

824
00:38:32,773 --> 00:38:36,493
Speaker 9: you know, rag doll. And you did a somersault. And

825
00:38:36,533 --> 00:38:38,093
Speaker 9: I'm a big boy, I'm over one hundred and forty

826
00:38:38,133 --> 00:38:40,813
Speaker 9: kilos and they reckon. I did a graceful somersault and

827
00:38:40,933 --> 00:38:43,253
Speaker 9: landed flat on my face on the other side. That

828
00:38:43,373 --> 00:38:45,373
Speaker 9: was fine, but the forty seven stitches of a head

829
00:38:45,573 --> 00:38:48,493
Speaker 9: sort of stung for a while, and I was pretty

830
00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:51,973
Speaker 9: black and blue. But the funniest thing about that every

831
00:38:52,053 --> 00:38:54,293
Speaker 9: night we would travel, the guys and be riding their

832
00:38:54,293 --> 00:38:56,252
Speaker 9: bikes and I'd be in the van with the bed

833
00:38:56,333 --> 00:38:59,893
Speaker 9: Mexican and we'd get to the motels and stuff like that,

834
00:39:00,013 --> 00:39:01,613
Speaker 9: and of course I just put my talks on and

835
00:39:01,613 --> 00:39:03,893
Speaker 9: go and hop them to the throwing pool. And I

836
00:39:03,973 --> 00:39:10,693
Speaker 9: looked a sight Ben in the people keeps for pointing.

837
00:39:10,733 --> 00:39:14,453
Speaker 3: You know, great story.

838
00:39:14,573 --> 00:39:16,293
Speaker 2: I've been in that situation when I got mugged in

839
00:39:16,293 --> 00:39:18,773
Speaker 2: London once. My face was just massive, my tongue was

840
00:39:18,813 --> 00:39:21,093
Speaker 2: hanging out, my lips were everywhere, scaring children, you know,

841
00:39:21,213 --> 00:39:24,213
Speaker 2: just walk around like cousy mo moto with people avoiding

842
00:39:24,213 --> 00:39:25,733
Speaker 2: me and screaming and pointing.

843
00:39:26,773 --> 00:39:28,613
Speaker 3: Seven to two beg very shortly.

844
00:39:28,333 --> 00:39:32,373
Speaker 1: Listening to that in Tyler, Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking

845
00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:35,613
Speaker 1: your calls on eight hundred and eighty. It's Matt Heath

846
00:39:35,653 --> 00:39:38,053
Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams Afternoons.

847
00:39:37,453 --> 00:39:41,772
Speaker 3: News TALKSB News Talks HEB. It is four to two,

848
00:39:42,133 --> 00:39:43,893
Speaker 3: a couple of texts to the news and then we're

849
00:39:43,893 --> 00:39:44,533
Speaker 3: going to carry it on.

850
00:39:44,693 --> 00:39:46,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we've got so many calls and texts

851
00:39:46,573 --> 00:39:48,133
Speaker 2: coming through that we might do this for a little

852
00:39:48,133 --> 00:39:49,093
Speaker 2: bit further after the.

853
00:39:49,093 --> 00:39:51,212
Speaker 3: Break, shall we Yeah? Yeah, so many bee water chat.

854
00:39:51,413 --> 00:39:54,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, my mate crashed a scooter in Balley fifty

855
00:39:55,093 --> 00:39:57,493
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and cost no insurance as he didn't tell

856
00:39:57,533 --> 00:39:59,813
Speaker 2: insurances he would be riding scooters.

857
00:39:59,293 --> 00:40:03,093
Speaker 3: So no coverage. It's from Craig. Yeah, fifty thousand dollars.

858
00:40:03,453 --> 00:40:06,053
Speaker 2: Never ever travel without travel insurance. This is the text

859
00:40:06,053 --> 00:40:08,293
Speaker 2: of my own experience while traveling in remote Western Australia.

860
00:40:08,653 --> 00:40:12,212
Speaker 2: I suffered a significant brain injury required a twenty eight

861
00:40:12,333 --> 00:40:15,053
Speaker 2: day and stay in hospital at the height of the

862
00:40:15,093 --> 00:40:15,693
Speaker 2: mining boom.

863
00:40:15,733 --> 00:40:18,053
Speaker 3: There you go, all right, Oh eight hundred and eighty

864
00:40:18,053 --> 00:40:20,573
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. We're going to

865
00:40:20,573 --> 00:40:23,133
Speaker 3: carry this on after the News, which is next.

866
00:40:24,293 --> 00:40:28,093
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams

867
00:40:28,133 --> 00:40:29,933
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

868
00:40:29,973 --> 00:40:33,453
Speaker 3: It'd be welcome back into the show. Seven past two,

869
00:40:33,533 --> 00:40:36,252
Speaker 3: and we've been talking about horror travel stories when you've

870
00:40:36,293 --> 00:40:39,693
Speaker 3: been in another country and found yourself getting injured or sick.

871
00:40:40,013 --> 00:40:42,493
Speaker 3: A young New Zealand woman or e law, she is

872
00:40:43,053 --> 00:40:46,013
Speaker 3: in a very sick state in Vietnam. As we speak.

873
00:40:46,093 --> 00:40:48,813
Speaker 3: She was over there for her eighteenth birthday, became incredibly

874
00:40:48,893 --> 00:40:52,133
Speaker 3: unwell and she's been diagnosed with what they call GBS,

875
00:40:52,133 --> 00:40:55,653
Speaker 3: an autoimmune disease in which the body attacks itself instead

876
00:40:55,653 --> 00:40:57,933
Speaker 3: of attacking and infection. So they're trying to raise the

877
00:40:57,973 --> 00:40:58,893
Speaker 3: money to get her back home.

878
00:40:58,933 --> 00:41:01,453
Speaker 2: Initially they just thought she was dehydrated at the hospital.

879
00:41:01,453 --> 00:41:02,813
Speaker 2: I took my time a while to work it out.

880
00:41:02,813 --> 00:41:04,413
Speaker 2: There is a given a little page to try and

881
00:41:04,533 --> 00:41:07,413
Speaker 2: raise some funds to help cover medical and travel costs.

882
00:41:07,413 --> 00:41:10,573
Speaker 2: They believe they do have of medical insurance, but there's

883
00:41:10,573 --> 00:41:11,493
Speaker 2: some additional costs.

884
00:41:11,493 --> 00:41:11,933
Speaker 3: Am I right?

885
00:41:12,093 --> 00:41:12,333
Speaker 15: Yeah?

886
00:41:12,413 --> 00:41:13,413
Speaker 3: So what they We've been.

887
00:41:13,293 --> 00:41:15,093
Speaker 2: Trying to reach out to talk to someone from the family,

888
00:41:15,133 --> 00:41:16,613
Speaker 2: but we haven't been able to get hold of.

889
00:41:16,533 --> 00:41:18,893
Speaker 3: Them, and maybe that the mother is on our way

890
00:41:18,893 --> 00:41:20,813
Speaker 3: to Vietnam as we speak, but we are trying to

891
00:41:20,933 --> 00:41:24,133
Speaker 3: speak to someone from the family. I'm not judging them, Yeah,

892
00:41:24,293 --> 00:41:30,933
Speaker 3: I'm not judging them. No, no, And they did say.

893
00:41:30,813 --> 00:41:33,413
Speaker 2: I'm not saying don't go on the plane to Vietnam

894
00:41:33,453 --> 00:41:35,693
Speaker 2: talk to us, that's what you're implying to No.

895
00:41:35,693 --> 00:41:39,533
Speaker 3: No, It certainly wasn't amplying there. But the line here

896
00:41:39,573 --> 00:41:43,173
Speaker 3: in the story was that they're raising costs that medical

897
00:41:43,213 --> 00:41:46,772
Speaker 3: insurance does not cover us their medical insurance. But there's

898
00:41:46,813 --> 00:41:48,613
Speaker 3: some things there that clearly aren't covered.

899
00:41:48,653 --> 00:41:50,652
Speaker 2: What a great thing to give a little is? You know,

900
00:41:50,733 --> 00:41:52,853
Speaker 2: there's some stuff I give a little that I wouldn't

901
00:41:52,893 --> 00:41:56,573
Speaker 2: give anything to, but there's also it's a great opportunity

902
00:41:56,573 --> 00:42:00,373
Speaker 2: for people that need some money, you know. Yep, it's fantastic.

903
00:42:00,493 --> 00:42:02,533
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, there's some very good people out there that

904
00:42:02,573 --> 00:42:04,652
Speaker 3: donate to a lot of these causes. If you want

905
00:42:04,693 --> 00:42:06,253
Speaker 3: to go check it out, just go to give a little.

906
00:42:06,253 --> 00:42:08,293
Speaker 3: It's a headline from Vietnam to ventilation.

907
00:42:08,733 --> 00:42:11,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, eight hundred and eighty ten a t talking about

908
00:42:12,733 --> 00:42:17,733
Speaker 2: misadventures you've had overseas medical misadventures perhaps, Hey, guys, basic

909
00:42:17,773 --> 00:42:20,173
Speaker 2: travel insurance is an expensive If you can afford to travel,

910
00:42:20,213 --> 00:42:22,333
Speaker 2: you can afford to buy it without sounding harsh. I

911
00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:24,453
Speaker 2: get sick of these cries for help, expecting others to

912
00:42:24,453 --> 00:42:27,133
Speaker 2: bail them out. What's going on medically is horrendous enough

913
00:42:27,133 --> 00:42:29,213
Speaker 2: for the family back home, let alone worrying about the

914
00:42:29,213 --> 00:42:31,933
Speaker 2: financial costs, which could pretty much be solved by pressing

915
00:42:31,973 --> 00:42:33,013
Speaker 2: go on travel cover.

916
00:42:33,533 --> 00:42:39,133
Speaker 3: Seems like what's her name or ori that wrong?

917
00:42:39,493 --> 00:42:41,573
Speaker 2: Does have cover, and in this case, the assistance is

918
00:42:41,973 --> 00:42:44,293
Speaker 2: to get mom over there, which is totally understandable and

919
00:42:44,333 --> 00:42:47,252
Speaker 2: definitely worth contributing to the Give a little page from Lee.

920
00:42:47,613 --> 00:42:48,093
Speaker 3: Yeah.

921
00:42:48,133 --> 00:42:52,413
Speaker 2: Absolutely, some people weren't so in love with travel insurance,

922
00:42:52,413 --> 00:42:55,053
Speaker 2: so this Texas says travel insurance is gambling. It's for

923
00:42:55,093 --> 00:42:57,733
Speaker 2: timid people. Timid people shouldn't travel. I've been around the

924
00:42:57,773 --> 00:43:00,373
Speaker 2: world many times, had injuries. I just deal with it

925
00:43:00,413 --> 00:43:02,973
Speaker 2: and keep going. Don't give the bustards assent. Travel like

926
00:43:03,013 --> 00:43:07,573
Speaker 2: a man, Okay, phileas fogg. It's a bold person there.

927
00:43:07,973 --> 00:43:11,493
Speaker 2: I mean, who says they've been around the world. I

928
00:43:11,493 --> 00:43:12,693
Speaker 2: think this is a lie text.

929
00:43:12,813 --> 00:43:14,013
Speaker 3: Yeah that feels like are young?

930
00:43:14,293 --> 00:43:16,973
Speaker 2: I need to see your boarding passes? You've been around

931
00:43:17,053 --> 00:43:19,693
Speaker 2: the world? How many times? I've been around the world

932
00:43:19,733 --> 00:43:20,373
Speaker 2: many times?

933
00:43:20,453 --> 00:43:22,813
Speaker 3: Oh Yeahna, there's the dude next ye at the pub

934
00:43:22,893 --> 00:43:29,093
Speaker 3: is and he's saying directly around the world or too. Yeah, yeah,

935
00:43:29,333 --> 00:43:30,893
Speaker 3: it's not a bodier balloon? Did you do it? Do

936
00:43:30,933 --> 00:43:34,493
Speaker 3: it in eighty days? Yeah? Fully's fog here.

937
00:43:35,053 --> 00:43:38,013
Speaker 2: This six is why as overseas travels so much more

938
00:43:38,053 --> 00:43:40,293
Speaker 2: dangerous than home. I don't have accidents at home. Why

939
00:43:40,293 --> 00:43:40,813
Speaker 2: would I have them?

940
00:43:40,813 --> 00:43:44,333
Speaker 3: Overseas. This is just silly skim mongering. I think.

941
00:43:45,173 --> 00:43:47,053
Speaker 2: I think the thing is you can have excidents overseas

942
00:43:47,093 --> 00:43:49,013
Speaker 2: when you're at home. You've got the support of being home,

943
00:43:49,013 --> 00:43:51,413
Speaker 2: You've got the ac C, yes, et cetera. You know

944
00:43:51,453 --> 00:43:54,692
Speaker 2: how things work. Yeah, overseas, you're often doing more adventurous things.

945
00:43:54,693 --> 00:43:56,773
Speaker 2: You're outside of your comfort zone. You don't know that

946
00:43:56,813 --> 00:43:59,853
Speaker 2: the systems, and look, no one knows when accidents are

947
00:43:59,853 --> 00:44:02,652
Speaker 2: going to happen exactly. Random things can happen to you.

948
00:44:02,813 --> 00:44:03,053
Speaker 4: Yep.

949
00:44:03,253 --> 00:44:05,773
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of hate for insurance companies, but

950
00:44:05,813 --> 00:44:08,652
Speaker 3: when you need them, hopefully they come through for you

951
00:44:08,693 --> 00:44:11,053
Speaker 3: if you pay your premiums. Is it just silly scam

952
00:44:11,053 --> 00:44:13,773
Speaker 3: angering to say that bad things can happen overseas.

953
00:44:13,853 --> 00:44:16,933
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a matter of record. Yeah,

954
00:44:16,973 --> 00:44:20,053
Speaker 2: that bad things can happen when you're traveling. But thank

955
00:44:20,093 --> 00:44:23,013
Speaker 2: you for your text. This one says I had a

956
00:44:23,093 --> 00:44:26,653
Speaker 2: very dodgy game of continental blackjack, big money twenty thousand

957
00:44:27,533 --> 00:44:31,333
Speaker 2: over of someone else's money in Bangkok, cheating, only just

958
00:44:31,333 --> 00:44:34,333
Speaker 2: got away live. That's slightly different.

959
00:44:34,413 --> 00:44:36,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if insurance covers that one, but

960
00:44:36,093 --> 00:44:38,413
Speaker 3: it's a hell of a story. So some illegal gambling

961
00:44:38,453 --> 00:44:40,333
Speaker 3: and bangcock with someone else's money and you had to

962
00:44:40,773 --> 00:44:42,853
Speaker 3: get out of there. That's fantastic, Alan, you had a

963
00:44:42,893 --> 00:44:44,093
Speaker 3: motor accident in Thailand.

964
00:44:45,293 --> 00:44:49,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey guys, Yeah, I went to Thailand in late May,

965
00:44:49,453 --> 00:44:53,933
Speaker 4: and I mean I've been over there numerous times in

966
00:44:53,973 --> 00:44:57,773
Speaker 4: the past, but prior to COVID, and this time I

967
00:44:57,853 --> 00:45:00,893
Speaker 4: dropped the ball. Before I had a tie precitle and

968
00:45:01,053 --> 00:45:06,013
Speaker 4: car license and also travel insurance every time. But this

969
00:45:06,133 --> 00:45:09,613
Speaker 4: time a bit of a brain fail and I picked

970
00:45:09,693 --> 00:45:13,453
Speaker 4: up my big, big turing bike over in the eastern

971
00:45:13,493 --> 00:45:17,813
Speaker 4: Thailand near Cambodia Loo and Rode. I did eight hundred

972
00:45:17,893 --> 00:45:20,333
Speaker 4: k on that in a couple of days and brought

973
00:45:20,373 --> 00:45:22,533
Speaker 4: it back to Patio where I've got a business there,

974
00:45:22,533 --> 00:45:26,373
Speaker 4: accommodation business. And I thought I was a ten foot

975
00:45:26,373 --> 00:45:30,293
Speaker 4: tall and bulletproof that. Two days later, I was on

976
00:45:30,333 --> 00:45:34,813
Speaker 4: a vespa in a busy street of Patio and I

977
00:45:34,853 --> 00:45:39,013
Speaker 4: got collected by another motorbike behind me and smacked me

978
00:45:39,093 --> 00:45:42,453
Speaker 4: to the ground and I ended up racking my hip

979
00:45:42,653 --> 00:45:45,093
Speaker 4: and it got quite a few abrasions, but that were nothing.

980
00:45:45,133 --> 00:45:48,013
Speaker 4: I couldn't feel there, so I pulled the bike.

981
00:45:50,733 --> 00:45:51,933
Speaker 3: Oh Allen you're still there.

982
00:45:52,893 --> 00:45:57,853
Speaker 4: That wasn't pretty much heavy pain. But then the cops

983
00:45:57,893 --> 00:46:01,533
Speaker 4: arrived on motorbikes and that wanted license, license license. I

984
00:46:01,533 --> 00:46:05,053
Speaker 4: didn't care whether I was injured or not, and so

985
00:46:05,173 --> 00:46:07,453
Speaker 4: I managed to ring my I had a major's a

986
00:46:07,533 --> 00:46:11,213
Speaker 4: cop there, drinking mate. I managed to get hold of

987
00:46:11,253 --> 00:46:15,493
Speaker 4: him and he came and diffused the situation, and the

988
00:46:16,293 --> 00:46:19,093
Speaker 4: medical guy came on another motorcycle and patched up a

989
00:46:19,093 --> 00:46:22,493
Speaker 4: few of my abrasions in there and said, O hospital

990
00:46:22,493 --> 00:46:24,933
Speaker 4: hospital myself. No, no, I want to sort out the police

991
00:46:25,133 --> 00:46:28,333
Speaker 4: side of it first. ME and the other guy, a big,

992
00:46:28,373 --> 00:46:32,013
Speaker 4: heavy tie guy that was on the other motorcycle. He

993
00:46:32,093 --> 00:46:34,933
Speaker 4: hit the ground too, and he was injured a bit,

994
00:46:35,293 --> 00:46:38,973
Speaker 4: and so we went to the police station and it

995
00:46:39,093 --> 00:46:42,893
Speaker 4: was bloody painful, but after four and a half hours

996
00:46:42,893 --> 00:46:45,413
Speaker 4: we sorted it out and I paid the other guy

997
00:46:45,413 --> 00:46:48,533
Speaker 4: I turned on fifty dollars and the police fifty dollars.

998
00:46:48,573 --> 00:46:51,813
Speaker 4: We both signed a statement and he stamped it and

999
00:46:51,853 --> 00:46:53,773
Speaker 4: that was the end of it. So when was that

1000
00:46:53,853 --> 00:46:56,533
Speaker 4: went back early June?

1001
00:46:56,693 --> 00:46:57,293
Speaker 3: Oh this year?

1002
00:46:58,253 --> 00:46:59,772
Speaker 6: Yeah? And yeah.

1003
00:46:59,893 --> 00:47:05,533
Speaker 4: So I went back to my accommodation and I asked,

1004
00:47:05,533 --> 00:47:09,493
Speaker 4: bloody really in pain code? The next morning, whether I'd

1005
00:47:09,493 --> 00:47:12,053
Speaker 4: better go to toilet the shower before I go to

1006
00:47:12,093 --> 00:47:15,253
Speaker 4: the hospital. It took me about fifteen minutes to get

1007
00:47:15,253 --> 00:47:19,853
Speaker 4: off the toilet bullet sequels that lady's painful. Anyway, I've

1008
00:47:19,853 --> 00:47:23,893
Speaker 4: broken the neck of my female bone on the leg

1009
00:47:25,533 --> 00:47:28,173
Speaker 4: and so anyway, I go down to the hospital that

1010
00:47:28,293 --> 00:47:32,933
Speaker 4: of US ten and within fifteen minutes they asked me

1011
00:47:33,013 --> 00:47:35,933
Speaker 4: what medications are beyond blah blah blah blood pressure and

1012
00:47:35,973 --> 00:47:39,133
Speaker 4: all that. They took that and wheeled me into X

1013
00:47:39,253 --> 00:47:44,413
Speaker 4: rays and confirmed the hip that had broken and said, I,

1014
00:47:44,533 --> 00:47:48,813
Speaker 4: well operated on you this evening at nine o'clock. So

1015
00:47:48,853 --> 00:47:52,493
Speaker 4: they wheeled me into a private room, a private hospital,

1016
00:47:53,413 --> 00:48:00,053
Speaker 4: and they actually specialized in knee and shoulder surgery. So

1017
00:48:00,133 --> 00:48:04,652
Speaker 4: I went in there and the anthis came in. I said,

1018
00:48:04,653 --> 00:48:08,213
Speaker 4: I only want a local in acetic. So about twenty

1019
00:48:08,453 --> 00:48:11,893
Speaker 4: nine they wheel me into the theaters. The shot of

1020
00:48:11,973 --> 00:48:15,732
Speaker 4: my spine and then the four and line. They start

1021
00:48:15,813 --> 00:48:18,893
Speaker 4: operating and hear everything they were doing, and I thought,

1022
00:48:19,133 --> 00:48:22,893
Speaker 4: and I'd already had to pay equivalent twelve grand I

1023
00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:29,533
Speaker 4: transferred from New Zealand over there. And anyway, during the operation,

1024
00:48:29,613 --> 00:48:32,692
Speaker 4: I thought, hell, this could be a bloody good thing

1025
00:48:32,733 --> 00:48:35,973
Speaker 4: for all New Zealanders wait up to twelve months for

1026
00:48:36,093 --> 00:48:40,133
Speaker 4: hip operations. So I worked with all out afterwards during

1027
00:48:40,133 --> 00:48:46,213
Speaker 4: the operation. Kept me sane, and I can get everything

1028
00:48:46,253 --> 00:48:50,293
Speaker 4: done over there for about seven grand cheaper than just

1029
00:48:50,333 --> 00:48:54,333
Speaker 4: the operation here and staying at my accommodation for five weeks.

1030
00:48:56,013 --> 00:48:58,733
Speaker 4: I've got interpreters and all that over there. So anyway,

1031
00:48:59,253 --> 00:49:01,413
Speaker 4: three days I got out of the hospital three days

1032
00:49:01,493 --> 00:49:05,373
Speaker 4: later and lucky I had cost me another three grand

1033
00:49:06,333 --> 00:49:12,373
Speaker 4: and I was traveling business class, so wheelchaired with Singapore

1034
00:49:12,453 --> 00:49:16,973
Speaker 4: Airlines bankot to Singapore, wheelchair back onto the plane to

1035
00:49:17,093 --> 00:49:21,652
Speaker 4: back the christ It's it was really good that it's

1036
00:49:21,693 --> 00:49:23,133
Speaker 4: just so you're coming right now.

1037
00:49:23,213 --> 00:49:25,013
Speaker 3: But yeah, well it's fucky.

1038
00:49:25,133 --> 00:49:27,813
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds I mean you're heavily connected over there,

1039
00:49:27,893 --> 00:49:31,133
Speaker 2: which was huge advantageous for you.

1040
00:49:31,253 --> 00:49:33,573
Speaker 3: I mean someone that wasn't might have been a you know,

1041
00:49:33,813 --> 00:49:35,413
Speaker 3: I mean to the point where you've got to make

1042
00:49:35,493 --> 00:49:37,093
Speaker 3: it's a cop that you can ring up to help you.

1043
00:49:37,173 --> 00:49:39,573
Speaker 3: That's that's a huge advantage, isn't it. The cheapest part

1044
00:49:39,773 --> 00:49:41,053
Speaker 3: was given the fifty to the cop.

1045
00:49:43,213 --> 00:49:47,493
Speaker 4: I still paying for a better controvert. So keep an

1046
00:49:47,493 --> 00:49:48,933
Speaker 4: eye on my business over there.

1047
00:49:49,013 --> 00:49:50,413
Speaker 3: We need to hear more about this business.

1048
00:49:50,453 --> 00:49:50,692
Speaker 1: Allen.

1049
00:49:50,733 --> 00:49:53,773
Speaker 3: Who are you over there? There's some sort of mob operator.

1050
00:49:54,053 --> 00:49:56,973
Speaker 4: So basically not missed the big anyway.

1051
00:49:57,213 --> 00:49:58,533
Speaker 6: Ensure you're that anyway?

1052
00:49:59,493 --> 00:50:02,973
Speaker 3: And you so you recommend like getting everything fixed over there.

1053
00:50:03,493 --> 00:50:07,293
Speaker 4: Well, I went to get my peace done over there

1054
00:50:07,493 --> 00:50:10,053
Speaker 4: on the same day it and but I had to

1055
00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:15,013
Speaker 4: change to get my hip done instead. Yeah, so that

1056
00:50:15,173 --> 00:50:17,053
Speaker 4: I'll go back and get the teeth done there and

1057
00:50:17,093 --> 00:50:19,533
Speaker 4: then I'll make sure I've got medical when you're next on.

1058
00:50:21,773 --> 00:50:25,093
Speaker 4: There's some real horror stories, you know u K and

1059
00:50:25,173 --> 00:50:28,013
Speaker 4: that where kids go over there racing round with no

1060
00:50:28,133 --> 00:50:32,213
Speaker 4: helmet brain brain injuries, you know, like one hundred thousand,

1061
00:50:32,253 --> 00:50:37,133
Speaker 4: two hundred thousand dollars. The hospitals are fantastic. The private

1062
00:50:37,173 --> 00:50:39,333
Speaker 4: ones cost your money, ain't so?

1063
00:50:39,493 --> 00:50:41,933
Speaker 3: Is it is there a little bit? Is the police

1064
00:50:41,933 --> 00:50:44,093
Speaker 3: force over there? What is it like? Is there? Is

1065
00:50:44,093 --> 00:50:45,173
Speaker 3: it a little bit corrupt?

1066
00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:47,093
Speaker 5: Uh?

1067
00:50:47,173 --> 00:50:48,693
Speaker 6: You pay for service.

1068
00:50:49,093 --> 00:50:52,973
Speaker 3: Right and you and you pay for service cash?

1069
00:50:53,413 --> 00:50:53,853
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1070
00:50:53,973 --> 00:50:55,013
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1071
00:50:55,133 --> 00:50:56,973
Speaker 4: Or bear whatever is.

1072
00:50:56,893 --> 00:50:59,013
Speaker 3: There that does that get you out of more than

1073
00:50:59,133 --> 00:51:00,213
Speaker 3: just an offender bender?

1074
00:51:01,613 --> 00:51:01,893
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1075
00:51:02,573 --> 00:51:06,053
Speaker 4: Giving me a police jacket wear that when you're in Thailand, boss,

1076
00:51:06,093 --> 00:51:10,133
Speaker 4: and no one but police way to stop you. Wow,

1077
00:51:11,013 --> 00:51:12,653
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think that works.

1078
00:51:12,893 --> 00:51:16,333
Speaker 3: Sound like a good man to know, Ellen. I'll get

1079
00:51:16,333 --> 00:51:18,653
Speaker 3: your number when and if someone Thailand I'll get in trouble,

1080
00:51:18,653 --> 00:51:19,333
Speaker 3: I'll be calling you.

1081
00:51:19,413 --> 00:51:24,293
Speaker 4: So you Yeah, this time, you know, when he wanted

1082
00:51:24,373 --> 00:51:28,253
Speaker 4: license license, my peace made a ride and there was

1083
00:51:28,293 --> 00:51:32,013
Speaker 4: five cops at that stage, and my policemate went and

1084
00:51:32,053 --> 00:51:34,652
Speaker 4: saw the boss cop that was there, and I never

1085
00:51:34,693 --> 00:51:36,933
Speaker 4: heard anything more about my license after that.

1086
00:51:39,053 --> 00:51:43,093
Speaker 15: I gave the cop, the prosecutor, the head prosecutor a

1087
00:51:43,213 --> 00:51:51,652
Speaker 15: thousand bart you know by bears.

1088
00:51:47,133 --> 00:51:52,173
Speaker 2: That you gave the head prosecutor a thousand bar?

1089
00:51:53,173 --> 00:51:55,692
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is probably how do you do that?

1090
00:51:55,733 --> 00:51:56,253
Speaker 3: Do you do?

1091
00:51:56,293 --> 00:51:58,933
Speaker 4: You do it out of my pocket?

1092
00:51:59,093 --> 00:51:59,333
Speaker 6: Right?

1093
00:51:59,453 --> 00:52:01,053
Speaker 3: So you got to shake his hand and there's there's

1094
00:52:01,053 --> 00:52:02,773
Speaker 3: a thousand bar in the hand. Shake his hand.

1095
00:52:03,533 --> 00:52:06,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, peaks for seats for your trouble, I said, Otherwise

1096
00:52:06,493 --> 00:52:09,253
Speaker 4: we would have to wait till Monday to see all

1097
00:52:09,253 --> 00:52:12,973
Speaker 4: the CCTV cameras and all that to ascertain who was wrong.

1098
00:52:13,053 --> 00:52:16,813
Speaker 4: But being a foreigner, you're always wrong, so there's no

1099
00:52:16,853 --> 00:52:18,293
Speaker 4: point trying to fight the system.

1100
00:52:18,453 --> 00:52:20,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, So what would happen to me? Ellen?

1101
00:52:20,813 --> 00:52:22,893
Speaker 3: I don't know any cops over in Thailand. If I

1102
00:52:22,973 --> 00:52:24,613
Speaker 3: was to try that sort of operation, would it work

1103
00:52:24,653 --> 00:52:25,133
Speaker 3: out well for me?

1104
00:52:25,853 --> 00:52:28,613
Speaker 4: Of the city on and you just have to bring

1105
00:52:28,653 --> 00:52:31,653
Speaker 4: me in. I'd tell my mate to help you.

1106
00:52:32,093 --> 00:52:32,853
Speaker 3: Okay.

1107
00:52:33,253 --> 00:52:35,453
Speaker 2: So how long were you in Thailand? So you run

1108
00:52:35,453 --> 00:52:37,692
Speaker 2: a business in Thailand? This is very interesting for.

1109
00:52:37,653 --> 00:52:40,732
Speaker 4: Me, commodation and commodation business there.

1110
00:52:40,893 --> 00:52:42,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how long how long on the ground before

1111
00:52:43,013 --> 00:52:45,413
Speaker 2: you had the connections and you knew how the system

1112
00:52:45,653 --> 00:52:47,773
Speaker 2: works over there because you must have been for a

1113
00:52:47,813 --> 00:52:49,693
Speaker 2: while pro partner.

1114
00:52:49,733 --> 00:52:52,573
Speaker 4: And I got a lot of ties working for me

1115
00:52:52,693 --> 00:52:56,533
Speaker 4: here in New Zealand, so you know, I've got pretty

1116
00:52:56,853 --> 00:53:03,413
Speaker 4: deeds of connections with Thailand. It's an awesome country. I

1117
00:53:03,453 --> 00:53:04,653
Speaker 4: actually love it. Yeah.

1118
00:53:04,773 --> 00:53:06,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've enjoyed my time over there.

1119
00:53:07,493 --> 00:53:10,053
Speaker 4: The hip field so cold back here, I can assure.

1120
00:53:11,413 --> 00:53:14,453
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Ellen and a look into

1121
00:53:14,533 --> 00:53:14,973
Speaker 2: your life.

1122
00:53:15,053 --> 00:53:15,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating.

1123
00:53:15,973 --> 00:53:21,772
Speaker 2: So get some travel insurance and also you know our connections, Yeah,

1124
00:53:21,813 --> 00:53:23,733
Speaker 2: get some connections, bring some bringing Allen with you.

1125
00:53:23,933 --> 00:53:26,813
Speaker 3: It is nineteen pasts too, oh e one hundred and

1126
00:53:26,813 --> 00:53:28,693
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Love to

1127
00:53:28,733 --> 00:53:31,373
Speaker 3: hear your stories. We got into a bit of strife overseas,

1128
00:53:32,413 --> 00:53:34,413
Speaker 3: and there's plenty of teacher to get to as well.

1129
00:53:34,693 --> 00:53:35,053
Speaker 3: Back in a.

1130
00:53:35,053 --> 00:53:41,453
Speaker 10: Mow your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

1131
00:53:41,493 --> 00:53:45,013
Speaker 10: afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talk

1132
00:53:45,093 --> 00:53:45,413
Speaker 10: said be.

1133
00:53:47,053 --> 00:53:50,013
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon, Tue twenty two past two. I was

1134
00:53:50,013 --> 00:53:51,853
Speaker 3: in Thailand last year. Got a heart issue, so I

1135
00:53:51,853 --> 00:53:54,013
Speaker 3: went to the hospital. Was told five k to stay

1136
00:53:54,013 --> 00:53:57,093
Speaker 3: in Hospital of Knights to see the cardiologist. I said no,

1137
00:53:57,173 --> 00:53:59,732
Speaker 3: thanks by and got on the plane home two days later.

1138
00:54:00,133 --> 00:54:02,853
Speaker 3: But he didn't have Ellen's number. You would have sorted out.

1139
00:54:03,013 --> 00:54:05,533
Speaker 2: I went to the US for a brain transplant for

1140
00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:07,413
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars. They gave me the brain of a

1141
00:54:07,413 --> 00:54:09,893
Speaker 2: deceased top lawyer, and I found a loophole.

1142
00:54:09,533 --> 00:54:10,133
Speaker 3: In the contract.

1143
00:54:10,213 --> 00:54:13,172
Speaker 2: The brain transport ended up costing them ten million. So

1144
00:54:13,213 --> 00:54:15,373
Speaker 2: now I'm comforty retired, but always seem to read a

1145
00:54:15,373 --> 00:54:18,613
Speaker 2: lot of Lord books. Now that the full brain transport

1146
00:54:19,173 --> 00:54:20,533
Speaker 2: is risky in any country.

1147
00:54:20,333 --> 00:54:24,292
Speaker 3: Certainly is You know that is tough science to pull off.

1148
00:54:24,493 --> 00:54:29,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, what an ignorant argument from the text to say

1149
00:54:29,053 --> 00:54:31,973
Speaker 2: that you have accidents at home and don't get insurance

1150
00:54:31,973 --> 00:54:34,453
Speaker 2: for that. My friend died when we were abroad and

1151
00:54:34,493 --> 00:54:36,692
Speaker 2: didn't have insurance. We couldn't afford to get him back,

1152
00:54:36,733 --> 00:54:39,533
Speaker 2: and the trauma was one hundredfold because of that. If

1153
00:54:39,573 --> 00:54:41,533
Speaker 2: you die in your home country, you have support and

1154
00:54:41,613 --> 00:54:44,333
Speaker 2: don't need shipping back or care. Everyone should have insurance.

1155
00:54:44,613 --> 00:54:45,493
Speaker 2: I learned the hard way.

1156
00:54:45,533 --> 00:54:47,493
Speaker 3: Love Sam. Thank you for your text, Sam. And that

1157
00:54:47,573 --> 00:54:50,693
Speaker 3: was heading back from a previous text that said if

1158
00:54:50,733 --> 00:54:52,333
Speaker 3: you have insurance, that you're soft.

1159
00:54:52,693 --> 00:54:55,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, heading back on the one that said why why

1160
00:54:55,653 --> 00:54:57,933
Speaker 2: is overseas so much more dangerous than home? I don't

1161
00:54:57,933 --> 00:55:00,173
Speaker 2: have accidents at home. Why should I have them overseas?

1162
00:55:00,253 --> 00:55:02,373
Speaker 2: This is just silly scam angry always it this one.

1163
00:55:02,613 --> 00:55:05,493
Speaker 2: Travel insurance is gambling. It's for timid people. Timid people

1164
00:55:05,493 --> 00:55:07,813
Speaker 2: shouldn't travel. I've been around the world many times and

1165
00:55:07,813 --> 00:55:10,053
Speaker 2: had injury. I just deal with it and keep going.

1166
00:55:10,253 --> 00:55:12,413
Speaker 2: Don't give the bustard a cent. Travel like a man.

1167
00:55:12,973 --> 00:55:15,293
Speaker 2: Yeah that is I mean, I don't believe that person.

1168
00:55:15,333 --> 00:55:16,493
Speaker 2: I think that inflammatory.

1169
00:55:16,613 --> 00:55:16,813
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1170
00:55:16,853 --> 00:55:19,693
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, as I said before, I have traveled around

1171
00:55:19,693 --> 00:55:20,733
Speaker 2: the world many times.

1172
00:55:20,813 --> 00:55:24,252
Speaker 3: What are you philly as fog? Yeah uh yeah, yeah right,

1173
00:55:24,293 --> 00:55:26,453
Speaker 3: we were a bit We're horribly late here, but when

1174
00:55:26,453 --> 00:55:27,933
Speaker 3: we come back, we'll take a few more calls. I wait,

1175
00:55:28,053 --> 00:55:30,053
Speaker 3: undred eighty ten eighty is a number to call twenty

1176
00:55:30,093 --> 00:55:30,653
Speaker 3: four past.

1177
00:55:30,493 --> 00:55:38,053
Speaker 1: Two Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams. Afternoons call oh eight hundred

1178
00:55:38,133 --> 00:55:40,013
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

1179
00:55:40,573 --> 00:55:43,893
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you, and we are talking about

1180
00:55:43,933 --> 00:55:47,013
Speaker 3: getting into trouble overseas, whether you were injured or got

1181
00:55:47,053 --> 00:55:50,453
Speaker 3: really sick. What happened? I eight hundred eighty is the

1182
00:55:50,573 --> 00:55:53,973
Speaker 3: number to call. Ben, You had a bit of an

1183
00:55:53,973 --> 00:55:55,053
Speaker 3: incident in India.

1184
00:55:57,613 --> 00:56:01,013
Speaker 16: No, this was a couple of years ago, and felt

1185
00:56:01,053 --> 00:56:03,573
Speaker 16: sick all of a sudden thought it was a penicidis,

1186
00:56:03,693 --> 00:56:06,853
Speaker 16: but it turned out to be even more severe than that.

1187
00:56:06,933 --> 00:56:10,973
Speaker 16: It was, you know, it was a kind of infection

1188
00:56:11,013 --> 00:56:12,973
Speaker 16: on the lining of the in the stance and I

1189
00:56:12,973 --> 00:56:15,373
Speaker 16: had to be stomach in this science, so I had

1190
00:56:15,413 --> 00:56:19,613
Speaker 16: to be put into hospital and in emergency care and stuff. Now,

1191
00:56:19,693 --> 00:56:22,533
Speaker 16: my insurance was a better credit card with B and

1192
00:56:22,573 --> 00:56:27,533
Speaker 16: said in fact to be specific, and but before traveling,

1193
00:56:27,613 --> 00:56:30,293
Speaker 16: we've we've always made it a point to check the

1194
00:56:30,333 --> 00:56:34,533
Speaker 16: fine print and we also usually get a copy of

1195
00:56:34,733 --> 00:56:38,533
Speaker 16: the insurance document from the bank so we know what

1196
00:56:38,613 --> 00:56:41,613
Speaker 16: the terms and conditions are. And we've done that for

1197
00:56:41,733 --> 00:56:46,133
Speaker 16: all our travels, uh and so, but no real issues.

1198
00:56:46,173 --> 00:56:50,253
Speaker 16: In fact, everything was covered. The hospital care was was

1199
00:56:50,293 --> 00:56:52,973
Speaker 16: covered in some of the best hospitals in Mumbai, and

1200
00:56:53,573 --> 00:56:56,093
Speaker 16: they even flew me back first class.

1201
00:56:56,693 --> 00:56:59,652
Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome. Yeah, luxury, yeah yeah.

1202
00:56:59,653 --> 00:57:01,933
Speaker 16: So it was a fairly good outcome, and in fact,

1203
00:57:02,533 --> 00:57:06,773
Speaker 16: right through it was pretty seamless, you know, process a

1204
00:57:06,773 --> 00:57:10,133
Speaker 16: lot of people, you know, kind of In fact, even

1205
00:57:10,413 --> 00:57:14,053
Speaker 16: recently when I did travel, the travel agent did ask

1206
00:57:14,173 --> 00:57:18,293
Speaker 16: me about, you know, taking a you know, separate insurance

1207
00:57:18,333 --> 00:57:20,533
Speaker 16: and I told her I'm covered by my credit cards.

1208
00:57:20,533 --> 00:57:23,013
Speaker 16: She said, oh, I would you know, uh, you know,

1209
00:57:23,493 --> 00:57:26,333
Speaker 16: re look at that. But when we did compare what

1210
00:57:26,493 --> 00:57:29,853
Speaker 16: was an offer, it was very similar to what we

1211
00:57:29,933 --> 00:57:33,293
Speaker 16: were getting offered by other insurance companies. So we decided

1212
00:57:33,333 --> 00:57:37,173
Speaker 16: to stick with the card and year handed, you know,

1213
00:57:37,853 --> 00:57:40,213
Speaker 16: it was fine. We recently went to we went to

1214
00:57:40,213 --> 00:57:44,133
Speaker 16: the US last year and I found that I had

1215
00:57:44,173 --> 00:57:46,293
Speaker 16: an inflammation in my photo. I went to a medical

1216
00:57:46,333 --> 00:57:49,053
Speaker 16: center there and they called me about one hundred hundred

1217
00:57:49,053 --> 00:57:51,733
Speaker 16: fifty dollars to get checked by the doctor. But then

1218
00:57:51,773 --> 00:57:53,813
Speaker 16: when they found out I had insurance, they said, oh

1219
00:57:54,013 --> 00:57:58,653
Speaker 16: it's you know, it's five hundred. So I said, you know,

1220
00:57:58,693 --> 00:58:01,333
Speaker 16: because I had a you know, I said, what if

1221
00:58:01,333 --> 00:58:04,693
Speaker 16: I what if I just do it if as if

1222
00:58:04,693 --> 00:58:06,773
Speaker 16: I'm not covered. They said, no, you have to do

1223
00:58:06,853 --> 00:58:08,173
Speaker 16: it if you've got insurance. You have to do it

1224
00:58:08,213 --> 00:58:10,893
Speaker 16: by insurance. But I said, in the disparity in reds,

1225
00:58:11,213 --> 00:58:14,813
Speaker 16: yes and no. That's how it is. So yeah, it is,

1226
00:58:14,933 --> 00:58:16,173
Speaker 16: which I found fairly interesting.

1227
00:58:16,173 --> 00:58:19,133
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, can I just say Ben that you have

1228
00:58:19,253 --> 00:58:21,613
Speaker 2: an amazing voice. It's not I was just trying to

1229
00:58:21,613 --> 00:58:24,093
Speaker 2: think how to describe it. It's it's so deep. It's

1230
00:58:24,173 --> 00:58:28,533
Speaker 2: like warm manuca honey over toast or something rich as

1231
00:58:28,533 --> 00:58:31,013
Speaker 2: anyone ever told you. I was curious so much base

1232
00:58:31,093 --> 00:58:31,893
Speaker 2: in it.

1233
00:58:31,893 --> 00:58:32,653
Speaker 3: It's like it's like.

1234
00:58:33,373 --> 00:58:36,373
Speaker 2: A velvet sofa parked on a subwa or something. It's

1235
00:58:36,613 --> 00:58:37,493
Speaker 2: it's beautiful wood.

1236
00:58:38,453 --> 00:58:38,893
Speaker 6: Thank you know.

1237
00:58:38,973 --> 00:58:40,653
Speaker 16: People do it at me that because I am a

1238
00:58:40,733 --> 00:58:44,693
Speaker 16: musician vitrail and tractically Jess Piano solf Ah. Yeah, so

1239
00:58:45,133 --> 00:58:47,573
Speaker 16: you know, I don't think much but people ask you

1240
00:58:47,613 --> 00:58:47,893
Speaker 16: this thing.

1241
00:58:47,973 --> 00:58:50,653
Speaker 3: But it's a lovely rumble to it. I could listen

1242
00:58:50,653 --> 00:58:52,293
Speaker 3: to your voice for hours. It's beautiful. Thank you so

1243
00:58:52,413 --> 00:58:54,653
Speaker 3: much for ringing and sharing his story with us. Yeah,

1244
00:58:54,693 --> 00:58:55,173
Speaker 3: how good?

1245
00:58:55,453 --> 00:58:55,613
Speaker 4: Right?

1246
00:58:55,733 --> 00:58:58,653
Speaker 3: That is where we will leave it great ninety minutes

1247
00:58:58,693 --> 00:59:01,653
Speaker 3: so and thank you for everyone who phoned and text

1248
00:59:01,733 --> 00:59:03,413
Speaker 3: on that. Coming up though, we want to have a

1249
00:59:03,493 --> 00:59:07,933
Speaker 3: chat about step parents. So Catherine Schwartznager, she is the

1250
00:59:08,013 --> 00:59:12,173
Speaker 3: daughter of Arnie. She talked to a podcast recently where

1251
00:59:12,693 --> 00:59:15,653
Speaker 3: when she became a step parent, she married Hollywood superstar

1252
00:59:15,773 --> 00:59:18,573
Speaker 3: Chris Pratz and as a stepparent to Pratt's son Jack,

1253
00:59:18,853 --> 00:59:21,773
Speaker 3: she got in a step parent coach. So that's what

1254
00:59:21,813 --> 00:59:23,573
Speaker 3: we want to do over the next hour or so.

1255
00:59:23,693 --> 00:59:26,293
Speaker 3: Let's be the step parent coach for anybody out there

1256
00:59:26,293 --> 00:59:29,453
Speaker 3: that's looking ahead of that journey. What was the advice

1257
00:59:29,493 --> 00:59:31,933
Speaker 3: you'd give back to yourself when you became a step parent? Oh,

1258
00:59:31,973 --> 00:59:35,133
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty and for step kids as well,

1259
00:59:35,133 --> 00:59:36,733
Speaker 3: how did you deal with it? Do you look back

1260
00:59:36,773 --> 00:59:38,293
Speaker 3: as a step kid and think maybe you were a

1261
00:59:38,293 --> 00:59:40,533
Speaker 3: bit hard on the step parents when they came into

1262
00:59:40,533 --> 00:59:40,893
Speaker 3: your life.

1263
00:59:41,013 --> 00:59:42,973
Speaker 2: Well you did, didn't you, Tyler. Yeah, you were a

1264
00:59:43,013 --> 00:59:44,533
Speaker 2: horrible little fifteen year old.

1265
00:59:44,853 --> 00:59:49,853
Speaker 3: You were yelling my real mommy every day, every day.

1266
00:59:50,093 --> 00:59:52,333
Speaker 3: And I'm so sorry, Chrissy. If you're listening, I was

1267
00:59:52,373 --> 00:59:54,613
Speaker 3: a horrible little step child. I'll tell you more very

1268
00:59:54,613 --> 00:59:57,493
Speaker 3: shortly though, but looked or were you just being loyalty

1269
00:59:57,533 --> 00:59:58,213
Speaker 3: your real mum?

1270
00:59:58,373 --> 00:59:58,573
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1271
00:59:58,613 --> 01:00:01,173
Speaker 3: Good points. Well I'll expand on that very shortly. But

1272
01:00:01,253 --> 01:00:03,053
Speaker 3: love to hear from you on O eight hundred eighty

1273
01:00:03,053 --> 01:00:05,413
Speaker 3: ten eighty. If you're a step parent, what do you

1274
01:00:05,453 --> 01:00:07,853
Speaker 3: wish you knew at the start? And if you're about

1275
01:00:07,853 --> 01:00:11,293
Speaker 3: to come become a step parent, are you but worried

1276
01:00:11,293 --> 01:00:12,653
Speaker 3: about how the kids are going to deal with you? Oh,

1277
01:00:12,653 --> 01:00:14,613
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen eighties the number to call twenty

1278
01:00:14,653 --> 01:00:15,333
Speaker 3: nine to three.

1279
01:00:15,253 --> 01:00:18,253
Speaker 2: And we's been playing next as the jazz musician. I

1280
01:00:18,253 --> 01:00:19,933
Speaker 2: just want to hear him talking between songs.

1281
01:00:19,973 --> 01:00:20,613
Speaker 3: Such a good thing.

1282
01:00:20,613 --> 01:00:21,133
Speaker 6: That was.

1283
01:00:24,013 --> 01:00:27,733
Speaker 3: Beautiful voice. That was me on the piano.

1284
01:00:29,053 --> 01:00:32,773
Speaker 12: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1285
01:00:32,813 --> 01:00:35,493
Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. Two people have been

1286
01:00:35,573 --> 01:00:39,053
Speaker 12: charged with neglect ten years after the death of a

1287
01:00:39,133 --> 01:00:43,413
Speaker 12: four year old girl in Northland's kai kohe Alestra Kapahati

1288
01:00:43,773 --> 01:00:47,173
Speaker 12: suffered a broken arm, broken pelvis and two head injuries

1289
01:00:47,453 --> 01:00:50,573
Speaker 12: in the weeks before her death. In October twenty fifteen,

1290
01:00:51,733 --> 01:00:54,653
Speaker 12: statsn ZED says power went up ten point four percent

1291
01:00:54,733 --> 01:00:58,093
Speaker 12: in the past year and gas prices rose sixteen point

1292
01:00:58,133 --> 01:01:01,973
Speaker 12: four Overall food prices are up four point six percent,

1293
01:01:02,373 --> 01:01:06,453
Speaker 12: particularly pushed by the cost of meat and dairy Councils

1294
01:01:06,493 --> 01:01:09,133
Speaker 12: could be in for a chunk of tax revenue to

1295
01:01:09,173 --> 01:01:12,213
Speaker 12: help with debt, with the Deputy Prime Minister confirming the

1296
01:01:12,253 --> 01:01:16,693
Speaker 12: government's looking at GST sharing from things like new housing developments.

1297
01:01:17,653 --> 01:01:21,973
Speaker 12: The Restaurant Association is giving the Commerce Commission five stars

1298
01:01:22,013 --> 01:01:24,853
Speaker 12: for deciding to regulate bank card fees to reduce the

1299
01:01:24,933 --> 01:01:29,373
Speaker 12: cost to businesses. Armed police continue desert streets for a

1300
01:01:29,373 --> 01:01:33,413
Speaker 12: person in Hawkspay's at Fukatu after a Buckingham Street standoff

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Speaker 12: at a house I managed for MiQ Hotels during COVID.

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Speaker 12: It was a shambles. Read the full column at NZID

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Speaker 12: Herald Premium. Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Rayleen right, this is going to

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01:01:46,693 --> 01:01:50,973
Speaker 3: be an interesting discussion. Step parentee Sir Katherine Schwarzenegger, the

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01:01:51,053 --> 01:01:54,173
Speaker 3: daughter of Arnie. She married the very famous Hollywood actor

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01:01:54,213 --> 01:01:56,093
Speaker 3: Chris Pratt a few years ago and she is a

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Speaker 3: step parent to Pratt's twelve year old son Jack with

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01:01:59,333 --> 01:02:02,813
Speaker 3: his ex wife, Anna Farris, who's also another Hollywood actress.

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Speaker 3: But she said in a recent podcast that to help

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Speaker 3: her deal with the what could be Apperil's turmoil of

1312
01:02:09,013 --> 01:02:12,173
Speaker 3: being a step parent, she got a step parent coach

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01:02:12,293 --> 01:02:14,853
Speaker 3: to help her along the way. And clearly that's quite

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01:02:14,893 --> 01:02:16,893
Speaker 3: a privileged position to be and to get a step

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Speaker 3: parent coach to help you out with that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also being Arnie's daughter gives you a certain

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01:02:21,893 --> 01:02:24,133
Speaker 2: amount of credibility with your step kids, I imagine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I'm sure a twelve year old Jack loves

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01:02:27,533 --> 01:02:30,493
Speaker 3: Arnie swartznags. Does she talk like armieh No? And she

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Speaker 3: doesn't look much like Armie either. Your room, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what that was.

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Speaker 2: I went Scottish through the terrible arming.

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Speaker 3: But one hundred eighty, ten and eighty so that look,

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Speaker 3: let's call this a bit of a PSA for any

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Speaker 3: people out there that may be about to become a

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Speaker 3: step parent. What advice worked for you when you got

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Speaker 3: into that situation. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's let's cut out the expensive step parent coach

1329
01:02:52,653 --> 01:02:55,213
Speaker 2: and use eight hundred and eighty ten eighty people that

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Speaker 2: have been in that position what.

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Speaker 3: Their advice is.

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Speaker 2: And also, if you're you know, you have a little

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01:03:00,613 --> 01:03:02,613
Speaker 2: you harbor a lot of shame and guilt like Tyler

1334
01:03:02,653 --> 01:03:05,093
Speaker 2: does and should for his behavior as a as a

1335
01:03:05,133 --> 01:03:07,853
Speaker 2: young man who terrorized his stepmother.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't get on. We didn't get on when

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Speaker 3: she first came into the picture, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: What do you think that was, Tyler?

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Speaker 2: Did you think was it because you were harboring some

1340
01:03:15,653 --> 01:03:18,533
Speaker 2: resentment for the marriage breakup of your parents?

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01:03:18,613 --> 01:03:21,733
Speaker 3: Definitely? So there was absolutely that, And you're like, who's this.

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Speaker 3: You're not my mum. I was fifteen at the time,

1343
01:03:24,493 --> 01:03:26,293
Speaker 3: so I think I was old enough to think I

1344
01:03:26,333 --> 01:03:28,653
Speaker 3: could start making my own own decisions. But me and

1345
01:03:28,693 --> 01:03:31,093
Speaker 3: the old man were fighting quite a bit as well.

1346
01:03:31,333 --> 01:03:34,173
Speaker 3: But then, so what really upset me at that time

1347
01:03:34,253 --> 01:03:36,253
Speaker 3: that all that stuff was going in the background and

1348
01:03:36,293 --> 01:03:38,413
Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was backing up my lovely

1349
01:03:38,533 --> 01:03:41,373
Speaker 3: mum as well. And then she came into the picture

1350
01:03:41,733 --> 01:03:44,293
Speaker 3: and she started to back up the old man. When

1351
01:03:44,293 --> 01:03:46,493
Speaker 3: me and dad had a bit of an argument, then

1352
01:03:46,533 --> 01:03:49,093
Speaker 3: she'd come into the bedroom and say, Tyler, you need

1353
01:03:49,133 --> 01:03:50,573
Speaker 3: to listen to your dad. And of course it was

1354
01:03:50,573 --> 01:03:54,533
Speaker 3: a fifteen year old say you're not part of this. Yeah,

1355
01:03:55,173 --> 01:03:57,653
Speaker 3: this was between me and dad and you're not a

1356
01:03:57,653 --> 01:03:59,973
Speaker 3: part of this. But now that I'm older and hopefully

1357
01:03:59,973 --> 01:04:01,813
Speaker 3: a little bit wise, I look back on that, and

1358
01:04:01,933 --> 01:04:04,293
Speaker 3: she was in an awkward position as well. Dad was

1359
01:04:04,653 --> 01:04:06,293
Speaker 3: having a hell of a time, Mum was having a

1360
01:04:06,293 --> 01:04:08,253
Speaker 3: hell of a time, and I was having a shit

1361
01:04:08,413 --> 01:04:11,213
Speaker 3: a time as well. But what's your language? Yes, sorry,

1362
01:04:11,293 --> 01:04:12,733
Speaker 3: I was having a hell of a time as well.

1363
01:04:12,933 --> 01:04:14,733
Speaker 3: Watch your language. This is bringing back some this has

1364
01:04:14,773 --> 01:04:18,493
Speaker 3: bringing back some memories, man Heath. Sorry, And we were

1365
01:04:18,533 --> 01:04:22,173
Speaker 3: all in what was quite a tough situation. As even

1366
01:04:22,213 --> 01:04:24,413
Speaker 3: as a fifteen year old kid, I probably should have

1367
01:04:24,453 --> 01:04:25,853
Speaker 3: been kinder to everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we can all look back at our

1369
01:04:28,613 --> 01:04:30,573
Speaker 2: teenage years and we could have probably been a bit

1370
01:04:30,573 --> 01:04:33,093
Speaker 2: more nuanced in our approach to life. But there is

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Speaker 2: a certain amount of hormone ell activity and a teenager absolutely,

1372
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Speaker 2: and also as you're you know, as you're occurred and

1373
01:04:39,533 --> 01:04:41,333
Speaker 2: you're growing up and things are going one way with

1374
01:04:41,373 --> 01:04:45,293
Speaker 2: your family and then your family breaks apart, then you're

1375
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Speaker 2: feeling a little bit vulnerable.

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Speaker 3: I imagine as a child, right, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: No, I was lucky enough that my parents stayed together

1378
01:04:50,253 --> 01:04:54,053
Speaker 2: my whole childhood, and I was a dick anyway. Yeah,

1379
01:04:54,133 --> 01:04:56,493
Speaker 2: you certainly were, but you can see the problem and

1380
01:04:57,053 --> 01:05:00,693
Speaker 2: as I imagine, as a parent, you also could can

1381
01:05:00,733 --> 01:05:04,573
Speaker 2: get quite protective of your kids if you know, I imagine

1382
01:05:04,573 --> 01:05:07,533
Speaker 2: if the step parent starts telling off your kids, you

1383
01:05:07,533 --> 01:05:09,773
Speaker 2: could take it quite personally that they're saying that you

1384
01:05:09,813 --> 01:05:11,893
Speaker 2: haven't brought up your kids. You know, as much as

1385
01:05:11,933 --> 01:05:13,893
Speaker 2: you may love your new partner, you might be you

1386
01:05:13,973 --> 01:05:17,453
Speaker 2: might take it personally if they say you that little

1387
01:05:17,653 --> 01:05:18,253
Speaker 2: clean up your.

1388
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Speaker 3: Own little turd. Yeah, You're like, well, that's my kid.

1389
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Speaker 2: You feel protective of them, and you feel like they're

1390
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Speaker 2: saying that you haven't brought them up properly or what.

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Speaker 2: It was a very very complicated situation. Absolutely, we'd love

1392
01:05:27,613 --> 01:05:29,373
Speaker 2: to hear from people on eight hundred and eighty ten

1393
01:05:29,453 --> 01:05:34,933
Speaker 2: eighty who have successfully, you know, sailed those complex step

1394
01:05:34,933 --> 01:05:37,853
Speaker 2: parenting waters. Yeah, and also the ones where it's blown

1395
01:05:37,933 --> 01:05:39,613
Speaker 2: up in their face and it's been a complete disaster.

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Speaker 3: Will take them all. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1397
01:05:42,413 --> 01:05:44,453
Speaker 3: the number to call, or you can text through nine

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Speaker 3: to nine two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not Hollywood stars. So here's some free step

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01:05:49,613 --> 01:05:52,093
Speaker 2: parenting coaching on eight hundred and eighty ten.

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01:05:52,013 --> 01:05:53,573
Speaker 3: Eighty twenty one to three.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

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01:05:58,093 --> 01:06:02,493
Speaker 1: on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news talksa'd be very.

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Speaker 3: Good Afternoons you we're talking about becoming a step parent.

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01:06:05,413 --> 01:06:07,733
Speaker 3: So it's on the back of a story. Catherine schwartzneg

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01:06:07,733 --> 01:06:10,653
Speaker 3: as you marry a very well known Hollywood actor and

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01:06:10,773 --> 01:06:12,373
Speaker 3: is now a step parent, had to get on a

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Speaker 3: step parent coach to help her navigate those waters. But

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Speaker 3: keen to hear how you navigated those waters, Peter, Welcome

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Speaker 3: to the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey guys, I was dating a mother of two girls

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Speaker 6: ten and five at the time, and like you were

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01:06:28,093 --> 01:06:30,973
Speaker 6: talking before, the five year old you used to just

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01:06:31,013 --> 01:06:34,693
Speaker 6: stare at me like, what the hell's this? And the

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01:06:36,093 --> 01:06:38,493
Speaker 6: ten year old wasn't too bad, you know, tell a

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01:06:38,493 --> 01:06:41,533
Speaker 6: few dumb jokes and slow to get there. But when

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Speaker 6: it was time for me to propose, I asked the

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Speaker 6: two girls first because they already had a dad, and

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01:06:50,173 --> 01:06:52,813
Speaker 6: of course they weren't really excited, and you know, they

1420
01:06:52,973 --> 01:06:56,213
Speaker 6: just created a nice little family. But if I had

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Speaker 6: advice then it would be never block out the actual

1422
01:07:01,253 --> 01:07:04,973
Speaker 6: biological parent, because they're always going to be in your life,

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01:07:05,133 --> 01:07:08,773
Speaker 6: whether you like it. Or not at least I did obviously,

1424
01:07:08,813 --> 01:07:14,693
Speaker 6: But why waste your time fighting something that they're never

1425
01:07:14,733 --> 01:07:16,693
Speaker 6: going to disappear. They're always going to be there, So

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Speaker 6: you kind of have to try and make it work

1427
01:07:19,173 --> 01:07:23,053
Speaker 6: and and kind of find a balance of not taking

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01:07:23,053 --> 01:07:26,813
Speaker 6: aside because you weren't privy to why they were divorced

1429
01:07:26,933 --> 01:07:31,093
Speaker 6: or broke up in the first place. So advice is

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Speaker 6: very kind of key on your partner. But also bear

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01:07:34,733 --> 01:07:37,613
Speaker 6: in mind that the girls in this case have a

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Speaker 6: biological father that they love very much, and you're not

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Speaker 6: a replacement. You're just an add on to that. That

1434
01:07:44,693 --> 01:07:48,573
Speaker 6: relationship and discipline. I just went off my partner at

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Speaker 6: the time of what I could get away with. But

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Speaker 6: when we had our child together, I made sure that

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Speaker 6: I was consistent with a discipline with my boy as

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01:07:59,853 --> 01:08:05,093
Speaker 6: I was with the other those In their eyes, I

1439
01:08:05,213 --> 01:08:08,133
Speaker 6: was like, well that's the same, And I say, I

1440
01:08:08,173 --> 01:08:12,493
Speaker 6: had a fantastic relationship with the two step kids. You know,

1441
01:08:12,653 --> 01:08:16,053
Speaker 6: it's you know, they're a lot older now, and yeah,

1442
01:08:16,293 --> 01:08:17,612
Speaker 6: one of us got kids of their.

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Speaker 3: Own and are still with you, still with the mum

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01:08:21,053 --> 01:08:22,253
Speaker 3: if you don't mind houking.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, we're separated, but they we have. They

1446
01:08:29,732 --> 01:08:33,253
Speaker 6: have a sister with me, I had my daughter. They

1447
01:08:33,333 --> 01:08:36,733
Speaker 6: come over so obvious regularly at my place.

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Speaker 3: And oh yeah, that's.

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Speaker 6: And I've never treated them every any different. You know,

1450
01:08:42,133 --> 01:08:46,412
Speaker 6: we were twelve fifteen years I think I was so, yeah,

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01:08:46,612 --> 01:08:49,412
Speaker 6: I know them, I know them well. They're my kids

1452
01:08:49,452 --> 01:08:53,012
Speaker 6: and my family don't know any different. They're like they're

1453
01:08:53,053 --> 01:08:56,092
Speaker 6: just part of part of the photos, you know, it's

1454
01:08:56,133 --> 01:08:58,732
Speaker 6: like part of my family tree. Even though they're not

1455
01:08:59,293 --> 01:09:02,093
Speaker 6: the blood, they're still anchored on the bottom of that

1456
01:09:02,293 --> 01:09:07,333
Speaker 6: little tree as it goes out. So but yeah, I

1457
01:09:07,372 --> 01:09:11,333
Speaker 6: just think my advice to any father, don't push yourself

1458
01:09:11,372 --> 01:09:15,692
Speaker 6: on the kids. Just be yourself, treat them how you

1459
01:09:15,732 --> 01:09:20,133
Speaker 6: want to be treated, and let them decide when they're

1460
01:09:20,173 --> 01:09:23,213
Speaker 6: ready to confide in you. And they will at some stage.

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01:09:23,293 --> 01:09:27,253
Speaker 6: They'll go Ashley, he's a good dude. He's let's you know.

1462
01:09:27,893 --> 01:09:31,492
Speaker 6: And you make time on one and one time with

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01:09:31,532 --> 01:09:35,093
Speaker 6: the other kids. It's always an important thing to like

1464
01:09:35,532 --> 01:09:39,572
Speaker 6: taken to swimming lessons or ballet or without the mother,

1465
01:09:39,692 --> 01:09:42,572
Speaker 6: you know, just to do that. Yeah, a little bit

1466
01:09:42,572 --> 01:09:44,452
Speaker 6: of greeving goes a long way.

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Speaker 3: But did you have any massive did you have any

1468
01:09:47,853 --> 01:09:50,333
Speaker 3: massive blow ups? That were hard to deal with.

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Speaker 6: There were a few. It was more along the lines

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Speaker 6: of I suppose discipline how I would discipline someone as

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01:10:03,492 --> 01:10:08,692
Speaker 6: opposed to how they were disciplined. So keen of off

1472
01:10:08,692 --> 01:10:12,492
Speaker 6: by partner was the biggest one. Like I got frustrating

1473
01:10:12,532 --> 01:10:14,732
Speaker 6: heaps of times like this is the way I was

1474
01:10:15,333 --> 01:10:18,412
Speaker 6: disciplined as I was a kid. It should be the same.

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01:10:18,492 --> 01:10:23,092
Speaker 6: And you know, and again a blended family cultural is different. Again.

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01:10:23,253 --> 01:10:28,452
Speaker 6: So yeah, at the end of the day, it's the kids.

1477
01:10:28,452 --> 01:10:31,253
Speaker 6: They're going to chime off and soak up everything bit

1478
01:10:31,333 --> 01:10:34,732
Speaker 6: of knowledge that you can serve. If it's positive, it's negative,

1479
01:10:34,812 --> 01:10:36,452
Speaker 6: then you've got a hell to climb.

1480
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Speaker 3: So what about just telling step kids to do chores,

1481
01:10:40,853 --> 01:10:42,012
Speaker 3: you know, do the dishes.

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01:10:43,652 --> 01:10:46,293
Speaker 6: That was interesting. So we had the week on week

1483
01:10:46,333 --> 01:10:49,412
Speaker 6: after arrangement, like they spent half of the dad and

1484
01:10:49,812 --> 01:10:53,333
Speaker 6: then and we just made sure that we had rules.

1485
01:10:53,492 --> 01:10:56,852
Speaker 6: When they came over. They knew that there was light

1486
01:10:56,973 --> 01:10:58,932
Speaker 6: down at this time. They knew they had to do

1487
01:10:58,973 --> 01:11:01,892
Speaker 6: the basics and do your bed, bring your dishes to

1488
01:11:01,973 --> 01:11:05,852
Speaker 6: the table, one washes wonder. You know, there were rules

1489
01:11:05,853 --> 01:11:07,812
Speaker 6: that they had to follow as soon as they came

1490
01:11:07,853 --> 01:11:10,372
Speaker 6: over there. Once I came home to school, the uniform

1491
01:11:10,412 --> 01:11:12,852
Speaker 6: wasn't just jumping on the floor and blah blah blah blah.

1492
01:11:12,893 --> 01:11:16,452
Speaker 6: So there was kind of like like steps in place.

1493
01:11:16,572 --> 01:11:20,013
Speaker 6: But the hardest thing is as a parent is maintaining

1494
01:11:20,053 --> 01:11:23,492
Speaker 6: those right. So you have to be consistent day in

1495
01:11:23,652 --> 01:11:25,812
Speaker 6: day out, and on the weekend you relax a little

1496
01:11:25,853 --> 01:11:28,692
Speaker 6: bit and you know, the treats come out, but the

1497
01:11:28,772 --> 01:11:33,852
Speaker 6: girls to try and rebel, rebel against it because their

1498
01:11:33,933 --> 01:11:38,253
Speaker 6: father treated them totally different. So it was like, you know,

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01:11:38,572 --> 01:11:41,572
Speaker 6: for me, I was like you, he was an ah.

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Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, that's their biological

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01:11:44,053 --> 01:11:47,012
Speaker 6: dad they love, They have more a connection to him.

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01:11:47,013 --> 01:11:51,372
Speaker 6: But I can still be that alternative person to call

1503
01:11:51,452 --> 01:11:53,972
Speaker 6: if they need to be picked up from a pub

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01:11:54,093 --> 01:11:54,932
Speaker 6: or whatever.

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01:11:55,412 --> 01:11:58,333
Speaker 2: And what about what about the biological dad though, because

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01:11:58,372 --> 01:12:00,333
Speaker 2: that could be a little bit challenging. You've got this

1507
01:12:00,372 --> 01:12:04,852
Speaker 2: other this other dude who's you know, bringing up his daughters.

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01:12:05,612 --> 01:12:06,612
Speaker 3: Was how was he with that?

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01:12:08,093 --> 01:12:08,293
Speaker 14: See?

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Speaker 6: I you know, he's he spent a couple of Christmas

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01:12:12,093 --> 01:12:14,612
Speaker 6: Days with us, you know, come over and you can

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01:12:14,612 --> 01:12:18,572
Speaker 6: you try and avoid them their separate days. Really, I

1513
01:12:18,612 --> 01:12:22,412
Speaker 6: didn't really care what he thought. I didn't you know,

1514
01:12:22,452 --> 01:12:24,652
Speaker 6: I didn't delve into it. I was like, that's not

1515
01:12:24,732 --> 01:12:29,412
Speaker 6: my life. My life is making sure that I'm doing

1516
01:12:29,452 --> 01:12:33,092
Speaker 6: the job as a stepdad and a partner to my partner.

1517
01:12:34,253 --> 01:12:37,092
Speaker 6: If I'm doing things right, he shouldn't be complaining because

1518
01:12:37,133 --> 01:12:40,772
Speaker 6: the girls aren't coming home saying dad's accusing us. Sorry,

1519
01:12:40,772 --> 01:12:43,333
Speaker 6: pizza have gusing us. You know he's doing this and

1520
01:12:43,333 --> 01:12:45,452
Speaker 6: that he let us say to drink it all hours

1521
01:12:45,452 --> 01:12:46,732
Speaker 6: of the night. Blah blah blah blah blah.

1522
01:12:46,772 --> 01:12:50,733
Speaker 3: You know it's yeah, you just concentrated.

1523
01:12:50,812 --> 01:12:53,173
Speaker 2: You just concentrate on being the good the good parent

1524
01:12:53,293 --> 01:12:55,572
Speaker 2: you can be, and that's all you can really do.

1525
01:12:55,692 --> 01:12:58,772
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, you can be the bad parent too, because

1526
01:12:58,772 --> 01:13:01,253
Speaker 6: there will be times where I just agree with school

1527
01:13:01,293 --> 01:13:03,532
Speaker 6: workout it should be done on that. But you just

1528
01:13:03,612 --> 01:13:06,612
Speaker 6: have to be consistent. And you know who cares what

1529
01:13:07,093 --> 01:13:10,532
Speaker 6: he thinks any words they are, so you just block

1530
01:13:10,612 --> 01:13:14,052
Speaker 6: that out and go. But he's always going to be there.

1531
01:13:14,213 --> 01:13:16,053
Speaker 3: That's the biggest I guess the problem is.

1532
01:13:16,333 --> 01:13:18,532
Speaker 2: I guess the problem is when the other parent, the

1533
01:13:18,572 --> 01:13:23,333
Speaker 2: biological parents starts because in the most irresponsible breakup situations,

1534
01:13:23,372 --> 01:13:27,732
Speaker 2: you have, you know, the other parent bad mouthing the

1535
01:13:28,652 --> 01:13:31,732
Speaker 2: other other situation in the other week, spending their week

1536
01:13:31,893 --> 01:13:33,612
Speaker 2: bad mouthing you.

1537
01:13:33,612 --> 01:13:35,253
Speaker 3: You know, that's when it can become a real problem.

1538
01:13:35,293 --> 01:13:37,492
Speaker 2: And I've seen that before when when you know, what's

1539
01:13:37,732 --> 01:13:39,893
Speaker 2: the saying, when they use that the kids as a

1540
01:13:39,933 --> 01:13:43,053
Speaker 2: weapon against the other side, hit them against each other.

1541
01:13:43,133 --> 01:13:46,452
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's probably one of the biggest things that we

1542
01:13:46,532 --> 01:13:51,612
Speaker 6: did together was we never ye she never argued or

1543
01:13:52,293 --> 01:13:58,452
Speaker 6: had a conversation that was negative towards their dad in

1544
01:13:58,492 --> 01:14:00,892
Speaker 6: front of us, in front of the kids. We never

1545
01:14:00,973 --> 01:14:04,852
Speaker 6: did that and it was always done behind crazy the

1546
01:14:05,173 --> 01:14:07,293
Speaker 6: dads and ah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And

1547
01:14:07,853 --> 01:14:10,612
Speaker 6: don't give me wrong, that happened, you know, but it

1548
01:14:10,652 --> 01:14:12,652
Speaker 6: was never done in front of the kids. So well,

1549
01:14:12,692 --> 01:14:16,213
Speaker 6: the kidsaw was a loving mum, a lovely dad, and

1550
01:14:16,492 --> 01:14:20,293
Speaker 6: a guy that was in between that was there to

1551
01:14:20,333 --> 01:14:23,372
Speaker 6: help them, support them, nurture them and bring them into

1552
01:14:23,412 --> 01:14:24,612
Speaker 6: the world as best you could.

1553
01:14:24,652 --> 01:14:26,532
Speaker 3: You know that lovely. Sounds like they were lucky to

1554
01:14:26,532 --> 01:14:30,213
Speaker 3: have you, Peter. Absolutely. Final question from me, Peter, was

1555
01:14:30,253 --> 01:14:32,532
Speaker 3: their party that was was a bit terrified that it

1556
01:14:32,652 --> 01:14:34,692
Speaker 3: was two girls that you were coming into the situation

1557
01:14:34,772 --> 01:14:36,173
Speaker 3: with rather than two boys.

1558
01:14:36,772 --> 01:14:41,173
Speaker 6: One hundred percent I was. I was. Yeah, I didn't

1559
01:14:41,213 --> 01:14:45,333
Speaker 6: know it, like when my dad took on myself and

1560
01:14:45,333 --> 01:14:48,572
Speaker 6: my little brother when when we were born. So I'm

1561
01:14:48,652 --> 01:14:52,612
Speaker 6: trying to followed my dad instance, but it was scary

1562
01:14:52,652 --> 01:14:54,692
Speaker 6: as hell because I didn't know how to deal with

1563
01:14:54,732 --> 01:14:57,973
Speaker 6: it once you first meet the kids, because you know,

1564
01:14:58,053 --> 01:15:00,772
Speaker 6: you wanted to be intimate with this woman or guy

1565
01:15:00,812 --> 01:15:02,852
Speaker 6: whoever you was at the time. So there's going to

1566
01:15:02,893 --> 01:15:06,133
Speaker 6: be times when you're sitting together watching a movie and

1567
01:15:06,372 --> 01:15:08,293
Speaker 6: your hand in hand on the couch, or you lean

1568
01:15:08,372 --> 01:15:11,133
Speaker 6: over and cover the kessin and the kids are there

1569
01:15:11,133 --> 01:15:15,133
Speaker 6: and they're looking, analyzing, they're going touching my mother. So

1570
01:15:15,772 --> 01:15:20,333
Speaker 6: it's true, always going through your mind going how far

1571
01:15:20,492 --> 01:15:22,772
Speaker 6: can I go? Can I you know, can I put

1572
01:15:22,772 --> 01:15:24,852
Speaker 6: my hand on the thigh and just leave it there

1573
01:15:24,893 --> 01:15:27,452
Speaker 6: for a couple of hours? Or can I cuddle? Can

1574
01:15:27,492 --> 01:15:30,452
Speaker 6: I what can I do? And then you forget about

1575
01:15:30,492 --> 01:15:33,652
Speaker 6: that because then that the trust what I've seen, is

1576
01:15:33,772 --> 01:15:37,492
Speaker 6: the trust in them in you, is they know that

1577
01:15:38,013 --> 01:15:39,412
Speaker 6: their mom's happy. They're happy.

1578
01:15:39,652 --> 01:15:42,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, oh well, thank you so much for your call, Peter,

1579
01:15:42,812 --> 01:15:45,133
Speaker 2: And that sounds like the positive end of it. We're

1580
01:15:45,133 --> 01:15:47,372
Speaker 2: getting a much of horror stories coming on the text

1581
01:15:47,452 --> 01:15:50,293
Speaker 2: machine that we'll do. But I guess when I guess

1582
01:15:50,293 --> 01:15:52,013
Speaker 2: it would be staff the bases on the couch, when

1583
01:15:52,053 --> 01:15:53,653
Speaker 2: the when the family's around.

1584
01:15:53,412 --> 01:15:55,412
Speaker 3: Right you think, so, yeah, yeah, that seems like a

1585
01:15:55,412 --> 01:15:58,013
Speaker 3: smart move by Wait one hundred eighty ten eighty. If

1586
01:15:58,013 --> 01:15:59,732
Speaker 3: you are a step parent, what do you wish you

1587
01:15:59,812 --> 01:16:02,372
Speaker 3: knew at the get go? It is nine to three.

1588
01:16:03,452 --> 01:16:05,892
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1589
01:16:05,933 --> 01:16:10,333
Speaker 1: along the way? Mad Heath and Taylor Adams, New Storks EBB.

1590
01:16:11,652 --> 01:16:14,972
Speaker 3: New STORKSB having a great discussion about becoming a step parent.

1591
01:16:15,093 --> 01:16:17,133
Speaker 3: What did you learn along the way in that June

1592
01:16:17,333 --> 01:16:19,133
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighteen eighty. Yeah, that's right.

1593
01:16:19,173 --> 01:16:22,053
Speaker 2: We had a very lovely story from Peter. But here's

1594
01:16:22,093 --> 01:16:24,012
Speaker 2: the other side of it. My step son set about

1595
01:16:24,133 --> 01:16:26,852
Speaker 2: destroying my marriage from day one. He was a monster

1596
01:16:26,893 --> 01:16:29,213
Speaker 2: at the wedding, climbing trees, letting snot hang out of

1597
01:16:29,213 --> 01:16:32,053
Speaker 2: his nose, and misbehaving whenever possible. He was seven years old.

1598
01:16:32,053 --> 01:16:34,173
Speaker 2: By the age of fourteen, he was tormenting my dog.

1599
01:16:34,492 --> 01:16:36,492
Speaker 2: He took a knife to school to threaten children. He

1600
01:16:36,532 --> 01:16:38,452
Speaker 2: was banned from going on school camp because he was

1601
01:16:38,492 --> 01:16:41,652
Speaker 2: so wicked. He tried setting fire to the school toilets

1602
01:16:41,692 --> 01:16:44,452
Speaker 2: using the toilet paper. He killed a chicken in our garden,

1603
01:16:45,293 --> 01:16:47,293
Speaker 2: and the ducks and chickens would run away from him

1604
01:16:47,293 --> 01:16:50,253
Speaker 2: whenever they saw him coming. Boy, oh boy, I even

1605
01:16:50,253 --> 01:16:51,973
Speaker 2: had to call the police out because he was so

1606
01:16:52,093 --> 01:16:54,692
Speaker 2: badly behaved. I ended up in the doctor surgery begging

1607
01:16:54,732 --> 01:16:58,213
Speaker 2: for respite care for myself, and they told me there

1608
01:16:58,333 --> 01:17:00,652
Speaker 2: is no help for parents, only help for the children.

1609
01:17:01,173 --> 01:17:03,532
Speaker 2: It was all seen by the authorities as my fault.

1610
01:17:03,572 --> 01:17:06,013
Speaker 2: He succeeded in breaking the marriage. We got divorceduff to

1611
01:17:06,053 --> 01:17:08,053
Speaker 2: ten years of hell. It was literally like living with

1612
01:17:08,093 --> 01:17:11,092
Speaker 2: the It got to the point where I was scared

1613
01:17:11,133 --> 01:17:13,452
Speaker 2: to go home because I didn't know what the awful

1614
01:17:13,572 --> 01:17:16,572
Speaker 2: young person would do next. My advice to people considering

1615
01:17:16,612 --> 01:17:20,092
Speaker 2: relationship but that would involve step children would be don't

1616
01:17:20,133 --> 01:17:20,492
Speaker 2: do it.

1617
01:17:20,933 --> 01:17:24,053
Speaker 3: That is a hell of a journey. Wow. I mean,

1618
01:17:24,093 --> 01:17:26,812
Speaker 3: if you're in an omen situation with you know, a

1619
01:17:26,893 --> 01:17:28,973
Speaker 3: kid like Damien, then I get that. I mean that

1620
01:17:29,173 --> 01:17:32,532
Speaker 3: is to last ten years in that situation.

1621
01:17:32,893 --> 01:17:36,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, you tried to make it work, but clearly and

1622
01:17:36,093 --> 01:17:38,652
Speaker 2: you're going I know this is a horrible way to

1623
01:17:38,692 --> 01:17:40,452
Speaker 2: say it, but you'd be starting to think, well, it's

1624
01:17:40,452 --> 01:17:42,612
Speaker 2: not you know, they've got the kids saying you're not

1625
01:17:42,692 --> 01:17:45,013
Speaker 2: my mum. Yeah, that you might be going, that's not

1626
01:17:45,013 --> 01:17:45,612
Speaker 2: my kids.

1627
01:17:45,532 --> 01:17:50,292
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Never become a step parent to teenage triplets.

1628
01:17:50,372 --> 01:17:53,452
Speaker 3: I tried it once. It was a nightmare. That would

1629
01:17:53,492 --> 01:17:56,212
Speaker 3: have been tough and this one quickly. Am a stepmother,

1630
01:17:56,253 --> 01:17:58,293
Speaker 3: but no children of my own. Twenty five years ago,

1631
01:17:58,372 --> 01:18:01,932
Speaker 3: kiddies were eight and eleven. Was still challenging different family values.

1632
01:18:01,973 --> 01:18:04,692
Speaker 3: I had to switch quickly. That was the awful weekend

1633
01:18:04,732 --> 01:18:07,892
Speaker 3: with dad. Took two days to calm down and then

1634
01:18:07,933 --> 01:18:10,052
Speaker 3: it was time to go home. Wouldn't have ventured into

1635
01:18:10,093 --> 01:18:14,213
Speaker 3: it if Hubby wasn't good and well controlled reconversations with

1636
01:18:14,293 --> 01:18:17,172
Speaker 3: the X their new partner etcter, dealing with the kiddies,

1637
01:18:17,173 --> 01:18:20,093
Speaker 3: explaining to them at times relevant to age what they

1638
01:18:20,213 --> 01:18:23,933
Speaker 3: would understand. It was very difficult, but we managed to

1639
01:18:23,933 --> 01:18:27,293
Speaker 3: make it work. Not for the fainthearted. All right, there

1640
01:18:27,293 --> 01:18:29,333
Speaker 3: you go, All right? Oh, eight one hundred and eighty

1641
01:18:29,412 --> 01:18:32,013
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call if you are

1642
01:18:32,053 --> 01:18:34,532
Speaker 3: a step parent or you're about to become a step parent.

1643
01:18:34,572 --> 01:18:35,972
Speaker 3: Really keen to have a chat with you.

1644
01:18:37,293 --> 01:18:40,133
Speaker 2: We've got someone here who's both a stepchild and a stepfather.

1645
01:18:40,253 --> 01:18:41,652
Speaker 3: Oh, this is going to be good. We'll read that

1646
01:18:41,692 --> 01:18:43,772
Speaker 3: out very shortly. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1647
01:18:44,013 --> 01:18:45,412
Speaker 3: is the number to call if you want to send

1648
01:18:45,412 --> 01:18:47,492
Speaker 3: a text. Nine two ninety two is that number. New

1649
01:18:47,532 --> 01:18:50,652
Speaker 3: Sport and weather on its way. You're listening to matt

1650
01:18:50,692 --> 01:18:58,692
Speaker 3: and Tyler. Very good afternoon to you your new home

1651
01:18:58,812 --> 01:19:01,052
Speaker 3: are insateful and entertaining talk.

1652
01:19:01,293 --> 01:19:06,253
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk sebby.

1653
01:19:06,772 --> 01:19:09,812
Speaker 3: Afternoon to you. Welcome, it is seven past three and

1654
01:19:09,853 --> 01:19:12,732
Speaker 3: having a great discussion about step parents. So the story

1655
01:19:12,732 --> 01:19:15,812
Speaker 3: that kicked us all off. Catherine Schwarzenegger, the daughter of Arnie,

1656
01:19:15,812 --> 01:19:18,892
Speaker 3: married the very famous Chris Prank. Chris has a twelve

1657
01:19:18,973 --> 01:19:22,253
Speaker 3: year old son with his former wife, Anna Faris, and

1658
01:19:22,333 --> 01:19:24,452
Speaker 3: to deal with becoming a step parent, she got in

1659
01:19:24,572 --> 01:19:28,932
Speaker 3: a step parent coach. Wow, how elitist our privilege?

1660
01:19:28,933 --> 01:19:31,692
Speaker 2: And as we keep saying, with your dad's Arnie, surely

1661
01:19:31,732 --> 01:19:34,252
Speaker 2: you've already won most of the battle and your stepparent,

1662
01:19:34,293 --> 01:19:36,932
Speaker 2: there's some good street cred. It's not Tyler Adams turning up,

1663
01:19:37,293 --> 01:19:40,852
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's someone son of someone

1664
01:19:40,933 --> 01:19:42,812
Speaker 2: that you know, the daughter of someone very, very famous.

1665
01:19:42,812 --> 01:19:46,132
Speaker 2: But you know, we can't all afford step parent coaches

1666
01:19:46,412 --> 01:19:48,572
Speaker 2: or would even want them. So you know, eight hundred

1667
01:19:48,612 --> 01:19:50,612
Speaker 2: and eighty, teen eighty, we're just talking about people's step

1668
01:19:50,812 --> 01:19:55,532
Speaker 2: parenting experiences and then.

1669
01:19:55,572 --> 01:19:57,972
Speaker 3: We'll get to Japanese walking after that. Okay, absolutely want

1670
01:19:57,973 --> 01:19:58,932
Speaker 3: to get into Japanese walking.

1671
01:19:58,933 --> 01:19:59,253
Speaker 6: All right.

1672
01:19:59,492 --> 01:20:03,132
Speaker 3: Did you get quite a controversial text that you spied

1673
01:20:03,213 --> 01:20:05,612
Speaker 3: before you went into the news. I shall I read

1674
01:20:05,612 --> 01:20:08,612
Speaker 3: it out. It's got to just coach just and then

1675
01:20:08,652 --> 01:20:09,053
Speaker 3: read it out.

1676
01:20:09,053 --> 01:20:11,572
Speaker 2: But because I think that this controversial ticks made derail

1677
01:20:11,612 --> 01:20:15,492
Speaker 2: the entire conversations, mighty welcome the show, justin you've been

1678
01:20:15,532 --> 01:20:16,372
Speaker 2: a spit stick dad.

1679
01:20:18,412 --> 01:20:23,013
Speaker 5: Uh not in the traditional sense, guys. My ex remarried

1680
01:20:23,173 --> 01:20:26,052
Speaker 5: and had a child a couple of years after we split,

1681
01:20:27,253 --> 01:20:30,333
Speaker 5: and then we sort of continued with the co parents

1682
01:20:30,372 --> 01:20:33,932
Speaker 5: in so every second weekend I'd have my daughter and

1683
01:20:34,333 --> 01:20:36,452
Speaker 5: as her little sister was growing up, I think she

1684
01:20:36,532 --> 01:20:38,532
Speaker 5: was about three or four that she wanted to know

1685
01:20:38,572 --> 01:20:42,532
Speaker 5: why her some bloke was picking up her sister and

1686
01:20:42,572 --> 01:20:48,012
Speaker 5: going away everything. So her biological dad and my ex

1687
01:20:48,053 --> 01:20:51,532
Speaker 5: wife explained to her that you know, she's got two daddies,

1688
01:20:51,612 --> 01:20:54,932
Speaker 5: and you know, and then it sort of just clicked

1689
01:20:54,933 --> 01:20:57,812
Speaker 5: for a little girl that she wanted two daddies as well,

1690
01:20:58,732 --> 01:21:05,612
Speaker 5: and then started calling me daddy justin so cute, very

1691
01:21:05,652 --> 01:21:10,012
Speaker 5: cute and very cool that you know, now ten years later,

1692
01:21:10,093 --> 01:21:13,692
Speaker 5: she still calls me daddy justin. During those ten years,

1693
01:21:13,853 --> 01:21:17,172
Speaker 5: I would she'd had sleepovers with her sister, so giving

1694
01:21:17,812 --> 01:21:22,652
Speaker 5: the biological dad my ex to free weekends and all

1695
01:21:22,652 --> 01:21:25,652
Speaker 5: of this was very cocial with the biological dad and

1696
01:21:25,732 --> 01:21:28,812
Speaker 5: my ex and their family, which was quinite of cool,

1697
01:21:28,973 --> 01:21:33,533
Speaker 5: you know, So in a sense, I wasn't a stepparent

1698
01:21:33,612 --> 01:21:36,772
Speaker 5: by stepparent by law or by marriage or anything. It

1699
01:21:36,853 --> 01:21:37,852
Speaker 5: was just by chance.

1700
01:21:38,133 --> 01:21:38,293
Speaker 17: You know.

1701
01:21:38,692 --> 01:21:39,412
Speaker 5: It's really cool.

1702
01:21:39,732 --> 01:21:43,253
Speaker 2: And so now that that's been going on for ten years,

1703
01:21:43,772 --> 01:21:47,733
Speaker 2: do you would you feel some you'd feel parental parental

1704
01:21:47,893 --> 01:21:51,572
Speaker 2: responsibilities for this child, would you you know?

1705
01:21:51,612 --> 01:21:52,692
Speaker 14: Would you most definitely?

1706
01:21:53,452 --> 01:21:54,533
Speaker 5: Yes, most definitely.

1707
01:21:54,692 --> 01:21:54,892
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1708
01:21:54,973 --> 01:21:57,492
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I mean I don't get to see her

1709
01:21:57,532 --> 01:21:59,333
Speaker 5: every day, or I don't get to see her as

1710
01:21:59,333 --> 01:22:02,093
Speaker 5: often as i'd like, but yeah, I feel like I'm

1711
01:22:02,133 --> 01:22:04,772
Speaker 5: some sort of parent, and definitely when I get the

1712
01:22:04,812 --> 01:22:08,572
Speaker 5: opportunity to look after her and have her in my care,

1713
01:22:08,612 --> 01:22:11,532
Speaker 5: it's my responsibility obviously as a parent to do what

1714
01:22:11,572 --> 01:22:12,013
Speaker 5: I have to do.

1715
01:22:12,612 --> 01:22:15,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So you know schooling stuff. Would you would

1716
01:22:15,772 --> 01:22:18,173
Speaker 2: you cough up some cash for a for a you know,

1717
01:22:18,253 --> 01:22:20,372
Speaker 2: I know, a school camp or such.

1718
01:22:21,652 --> 01:22:24,972
Speaker 5: Look by Laura. I don't have to, but if they

1719
01:22:25,053 --> 01:22:28,692
Speaker 5: needed it, and you know, like most definitely yeah, most

1720
01:22:28,692 --> 01:22:31,933
Speaker 5: definitely like And I pay for stuff. You know, she

1721
01:22:32,013 --> 01:22:35,173
Speaker 5: gets birthday presents, Christmas presents, and if she is staying

1722
01:22:35,213 --> 01:22:37,053
Speaker 5: with me, we'll go for a bite to eat and

1723
01:22:37,093 --> 01:22:39,372
Speaker 5: I pay for everything like a parent. Would you know,

1724
01:22:39,772 --> 01:22:42,012
Speaker 5: I give it. I'll give a guidance, I give her

1725
01:22:42,173 --> 01:22:46,173
Speaker 5: advice if she needed it. I support her with things

1726
01:22:46,253 --> 01:22:51,053
Speaker 5: she does. So she plays touch football, I'll go and

1727
01:22:51,053 --> 01:22:53,612
Speaker 5: watch and then support her in that sense, just to

1728
01:22:53,652 --> 01:22:57,372
Speaker 5: give her that. Well, he's not always a constant in

1729
01:22:57,412 --> 01:22:59,253
Speaker 5: my life, but he is there if I need him.

1730
01:22:59,492 --> 01:23:04,572
Speaker 3: Everyone should have a daddy. Justin Yeah, absolutely, justin genuine

1731
01:23:04,652 --> 01:23:06,933
Speaker 3: question made because this is lovely, it's we love and

1732
01:23:07,013 --> 01:23:10,613
Speaker 3: hearing the story. But when you first got into this relationship,

1733
01:23:10,652 --> 01:23:12,812
Speaker 3: clearly you love the mom. Did you have to have

1734
01:23:12,812 --> 01:23:14,532
Speaker 3: a chat about how it would work when you came

1735
01:23:14,572 --> 01:23:16,412
Speaker 3: into that situation as a as a step parent?

1736
01:23:18,692 --> 01:23:22,892
Speaker 5: Look, look, not really, because I mean she was my

1737
01:23:22,973 --> 01:23:26,053
Speaker 5: ex wife that you know, that that remarried and had

1738
01:23:26,412 --> 01:23:30,052
Speaker 5: this younger this child. So you know, once since younger

1739
01:23:30,133 --> 01:23:33,132
Speaker 5: child started calling me day justin it was all very kosher,

1740
01:23:33,173 --> 01:23:35,852
Speaker 5: and it was all very much. You know, they didn't

1741
01:23:35,893 --> 01:23:37,732
Speaker 5: want to stop her calling me that. They didn't want

1742
01:23:37,772 --> 01:23:40,213
Speaker 5: her to stop her thinking that I was she did

1743
01:23:40,293 --> 01:23:44,173
Speaker 5: have two dads because watching her older sister and the

1744
01:23:44,213 --> 01:23:47,612
Speaker 5: way that her older sister was still happy enough but

1745
01:23:47,692 --> 01:23:51,173
Speaker 5: going away it was fine. So the conversation between my

1746
01:23:51,372 --> 01:23:54,213
Speaker 5: ex and the biological dad was very kosher. I was

1747
01:23:54,333 --> 01:23:55,293
Speaker 5: very open, you know.

1748
01:23:56,013 --> 01:23:57,772
Speaker 2: So did you feel because that's that's the other part

1749
01:23:57,812 --> 01:23:59,852
Speaker 2: of it, isn't it that you had a daughter that

1750
01:23:59,933 --> 01:24:03,892
Speaker 2: was being brought up by another dude? Was was that ever?

1751
01:24:04,133 --> 01:24:06,932
Speaker 2: Was that ever attention for you? Was there ever moment

1752
01:24:07,333 --> 01:24:09,572
Speaker 2: like don't don't just and my daughter? You know that

1753
01:24:09,692 --> 01:24:10,093
Speaker 2: kind of thing?

1754
01:24:10,732 --> 01:24:14,973
Speaker 5: Well, I never had to have those conversations. He's a professional,

1755
01:24:15,173 --> 01:24:16,732
Speaker 5: and look, at the end of the day, it was

1756
01:24:16,772 --> 01:24:19,213
Speaker 5: a hard pill to swallow. As with most dads, when

1757
01:24:19,612 --> 01:24:21,772
Speaker 5: you know you have your you have your first child,

1758
01:24:21,853 --> 01:24:23,652
Speaker 5: and then you expect to see them every day, and

1759
01:24:23,692 --> 01:24:29,012
Speaker 5: then twelve months lady, it don't. So I will admit

1760
01:24:29,133 --> 01:24:32,173
Speaker 5: it was a hard pill, but you know, I knew

1761
01:24:32,213 --> 01:24:35,213
Speaker 5: he had values, and once they had their child, it

1762
01:24:35,372 --> 01:24:38,452
Speaker 5: was like, well, he's a cool dude. He's a good dude.

1763
01:24:38,853 --> 01:24:43,333
Speaker 5: And you know, like I have every bit of amount

1764
01:24:43,372 --> 01:24:45,612
Speaker 5: of trust in him as a father and a parent.

1765
01:24:45,933 --> 01:24:50,213
Speaker 5: And you know, and my daughter's doing very well academically

1766
01:24:50,333 --> 01:24:53,253
Speaker 5: and sports sports wise, and you know, she's kind of

1767
01:24:53,372 --> 01:24:55,812
Speaker 5: lucky that she has the two dads and she has

1768
01:24:55,853 --> 01:24:58,572
Speaker 5: someone else that and and yeah, he does have to

1769
01:24:58,612 --> 01:25:01,773
Speaker 5: discipline her when he has to, and and I don't.

1770
01:25:02,093 --> 01:25:06,892
Speaker 5: We have an ongoing agreement that they discipline and parents

1771
01:25:07,213 --> 01:25:09,173
Speaker 5: in their house and I do it at my house.

1772
01:25:09,452 --> 01:25:09,932
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1773
01:25:10,173 --> 01:25:12,412
Speaker 2: You know, well, let's listen to this text that just

1774
01:25:12,452 --> 01:25:14,892
Speaker 2: come through Justin. There is hope in this world. What

1775
01:25:14,973 --> 01:25:17,893
Speaker 2: a beautiful man and human respect.

1776
01:25:18,093 --> 01:25:18,492
Speaker 3: There you go.

1777
01:25:19,013 --> 01:25:21,293
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, thank you both, Thank.

1778
01:25:21,133 --> 01:25:23,333
Speaker 3: You, thank you for sharing your story Justin Now, what

1779
01:25:23,412 --> 01:25:25,492
Speaker 3: a cool story and a cool situation. I want a

1780
01:25:25,532 --> 01:25:28,732
Speaker 3: daddy Justin me too. I want to I want two dads.

1781
01:25:28,853 --> 01:25:32,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen that a bit in relationships where there's

1782
01:25:32,213 --> 01:25:35,892
Speaker 2: one a kid that will have two dads and the

1783
01:25:35,893 --> 01:25:37,972
Speaker 2: other kids don't you know. Yeah, and so they're getting

1784
01:25:37,973 --> 01:25:39,892
Speaker 2: picked up and maybe and then there there's a whole

1785
01:25:39,973 --> 01:25:43,612
Speaker 2: other family that's you know, giving them presents and it's

1786
01:25:43,692 --> 01:25:46,053
Speaker 2: kind of a you know, an absolute women, it can

1787
01:25:46,133 --> 01:25:48,093
Speaker 2: actually be a massive bonus for the kid, you.

1788
01:25:48,013 --> 01:25:50,173
Speaker 3: Know, absolutely if you want to be met he's sick

1789
01:25:50,213 --> 01:25:54,213
Speaker 3: and dad, Oh it's another a call, but really keen

1790
01:25:54,253 --> 01:25:56,253
Speaker 3: to hear your story is about becoming a step parent.

1791
01:25:56,732 --> 01:25:59,492
Speaker 3: If it worked as similar to justin love to hear ye,

1792
01:25:59,772 --> 01:26:01,572
Speaker 3: nine two ninety two is the text number as well.

1793
01:26:01,572 --> 01:26:03,892
Speaker 3: We're getting plenty of ticks coming through, so we'll get

1794
01:26:03,933 --> 01:26:05,012
Speaker 3: to some of those very shortly.

1795
01:26:05,093 --> 01:26:07,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've still got to share this shocking one.

1796
01:26:07,372 --> 01:26:09,412
Speaker 2: This is going to be good shocking text.

1797
01:26:09,452 --> 01:26:12,372
Speaker 3: It's going to terrify you. It's fourteen past three. Very

1798
01:26:12,412 --> 01:26:15,133
Speaker 3: good afternoon to you. Some great texts coming through about

1799
01:26:15,133 --> 01:26:16,893
Speaker 3: being a step parents.

1800
01:26:16,893 --> 01:26:19,293
Speaker 2: Or read some great texts, and then the bad one

1801
01:26:19,293 --> 01:26:21,412
Speaker 2: that I've been hoping. Yeah, well maybe it's not a

1802
01:26:21,452 --> 01:26:24,932
Speaker 2: bad one. It's not for me to decide. One hundred

1803
01:26:24,933 --> 01:26:26,532
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. When we read the bad one

1804
01:26:26,532 --> 01:26:28,293
Speaker 2: out in a bit, yep, what do you think about it?

1805
01:26:28,772 --> 01:26:32,053
Speaker 2: But this one is an interesting one. My ex's new

1806
01:26:32,093 --> 01:26:34,852
Speaker 2: partner used to thank me for babysitting my own children.

1807
01:26:35,333 --> 01:26:37,772
Speaker 2: I politely explained that it's not babysitting if it's your

1808
01:26:37,812 --> 01:26:40,772
Speaker 2: own kids. The open communication worked well and we get

1809
01:26:40,812 --> 01:26:44,693
Speaker 2: on well, which is great for the kids. Children accumulate

1810
01:26:44,732 --> 01:26:50,052
Speaker 2: people in their lives, accommodate. I guess that means children

1811
01:26:50,053 --> 01:26:52,732
Speaker 2: accommodate people in their lives, they don't replace them. Great

1812
01:26:52,732 --> 01:26:54,772
Speaker 2: show you're doing. Thank you so for your text. Thank you,

1813
01:26:54,812 --> 01:26:57,053
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your text. Yeah, I mean

1814
01:26:57,093 --> 01:27:02,492
Speaker 2: that that babysitting thing is as a heardle even in

1815
01:27:02,532 --> 01:27:04,852
Speaker 2: relationships with this still together. You know when you go

1816
01:27:05,612 --> 01:27:09,333
Speaker 2: you're babysitting their kids tonight and your partner go, your

1817
01:27:09,333 --> 01:27:10,293
Speaker 2: babysitting your own kids?

1818
01:27:10,293 --> 01:27:13,852
Speaker 3: Are you mad? Very true? Are you? Now? This text

1819
01:27:14,013 --> 01:27:18,052
Speaker 3: starts off not so good, but it gets better. Guys.

1820
01:27:18,253 --> 01:27:20,772
Speaker 3: The stepchild I had was just fourteen. He had been

1821
01:27:21,053 --> 01:27:23,372
Speaker 3: instructed by his mother not to talk to me. His

1822
01:27:23,452 --> 01:27:25,492
Speaker 3: mother told him to eat all his meals in his bedroom.

1823
01:27:25,772 --> 01:27:27,532
Speaker 3: I said he had to eat with us. He wasn't

1824
01:27:27,572 --> 01:27:30,612
Speaker 3: supposed to get in my car. It was incredibly difficult.

1825
01:27:30,652 --> 01:27:33,492
Speaker 3: It lasted until he went to university. That was a

1826
01:27:33,532 --> 01:27:36,692
Speaker 3: relief when he left the home. However, twenty years on

1827
01:27:37,053 --> 01:27:39,133
Speaker 3: and things are much better. I even get a hug

1828
01:27:39,133 --> 01:27:41,692
Speaker 3: hello these days. Twenty years on. So the mother said

1829
01:27:41,732 --> 01:27:42,892
Speaker 3: from to stay in his bedroom.

1830
01:27:42,973 --> 01:27:43,173
Speaker 6: Yep.

1831
01:27:43,532 --> 01:27:46,093
Speaker 3: Is this a mom or a dad? It sounds like

1832
01:27:46,173 --> 01:27:48,732
Speaker 3: it was a step dad, right, So he says, yeah,

1833
01:27:48,732 --> 01:27:51,052
Speaker 3: get a guys. He stepchild was fourteen.

1834
01:27:51,492 --> 01:27:51,732
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1835
01:27:51,772 --> 01:27:53,933
Speaker 3: But that's the worst.

1836
01:27:53,492 --> 01:27:58,852
Speaker 2: Thing people can do is pit their kids, you know,

1837
01:27:58,893 --> 01:28:01,333
Speaker 2: in the battle with the X. Yeah, you know, you've

1838
01:28:01,333 --> 01:28:05,692
Speaker 2: got to You've absolutely got to never bad mouth the

1839
01:28:05,732 --> 01:28:07,772
Speaker 2: other partner. Yeah, you've got to talk them up, even

1840
01:28:07,772 --> 01:28:09,213
Speaker 2: if they're a dick, You've got to talk them up.

1841
01:28:09,293 --> 01:28:11,732
Speaker 3: It's a cruel thing to do to a child, isn't it. Yeah,

1842
01:28:11,812 --> 01:28:14,452
Speaker 3: to say that you cannot you cannot talk to your

1843
01:28:14,532 --> 01:28:18,972
Speaker 3: dad's girlfriends. And it's incredibly negligent as a parent as well,

1844
01:28:19,013 --> 01:28:20,772
Speaker 3: because you've just got a kid that will listen to you,

1845
01:28:21,492 --> 01:28:24,412
Speaker 3: and so you're using power you should not use. Yeah,

1846
01:28:24,732 --> 01:28:26,772
Speaker 3: and all that pressure on a child, that's terrible.

1847
01:28:26,812 --> 01:28:28,933
Speaker 2: Although you know, there are situations where where you know,

1848
01:28:29,133 --> 01:28:33,053
Speaker 2: I've known situations where people have the parent has not

1849
01:28:33,173 --> 01:28:35,452
Speaker 2: bad mouthed the other parent, and then the kids have

1850
01:28:35,492 --> 01:28:37,293
Speaker 2: acted in a certain way, and then later on life

1851
01:28:37,293 --> 01:28:40,532
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, Okay, now I understand the situation more.

1852
01:28:40,572 --> 01:28:42,692
Speaker 3: But mom and dad just said nice things about each other.

1853
01:28:42,772 --> 01:28:44,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you find out later in life that

1854
01:28:45,053 --> 01:28:47,133
Speaker 2: one of them was dodgy, you know, one of them

1855
01:28:47,173 --> 01:28:49,612
Speaker 2: had you know, cheated on the other one.

1856
01:28:49,652 --> 01:28:51,013
Speaker 3: Whatever. But they never very common, you know.

1857
01:28:50,973 --> 01:28:54,253
Speaker 2: You never find out that that kind of situation. Should

1858
01:28:54,293 --> 01:28:56,572
Speaker 2: we go to oh, read up this bad, bad tea

1859
01:28:57,093 --> 01:28:57,412
Speaker 2: right here.

1860
01:28:57,452 --> 01:28:57,732
Speaker 6: It is.

1861
01:28:58,013 --> 01:29:00,213
Speaker 2: Bad things happen when you let a step parent into

1862
01:29:00,253 --> 01:29:03,052
Speaker 2: your house, especially a man. They cannot be trusted. Mothers

1863
01:29:03,053 --> 01:29:06,532
Speaker 2: should live for their children, not for themselves. I never remarried.

1864
01:29:06,612 --> 01:29:09,372
Speaker 2: I knuckled down and bought them up on my own.

1865
01:29:09,532 --> 01:29:13,092
Speaker 2: Three kids, no step parent. Who are these people letting

1866
01:29:13,133 --> 01:29:16,052
Speaker 2: another adult into their house? What do they think will happen?

1867
01:29:16,133 --> 01:29:17,133
Speaker 2: It's irresponsible.

1868
01:29:18,213 --> 01:29:20,692
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean, that's a hell of a stance to take.

1869
01:29:21,333 --> 01:29:25,333
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's inherent danger, but they're obviously.

1870
01:29:25,372 --> 01:29:27,293
Speaker 2: Bad things happen in the world. But there are peters

1871
01:29:27,333 --> 01:29:29,492
Speaker 2: that we've talked to. They're justin's that we've talked to.

1872
01:29:29,532 --> 01:29:33,612
Speaker 2: There's so many fantastic step parents out there. Just to say,

1873
01:29:33,692 --> 01:29:35,772
Speaker 2: because there are some bad things that have happened that.

1874
01:29:35,973 --> 01:29:37,612
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a crazy You're a crazy person.

1875
01:29:37,692 --> 01:29:40,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, to close yourself off to love again. Bar's welcome

1876
01:29:40,853 --> 01:29:41,213
Speaker 3: to the show.

1877
01:29:42,532 --> 01:29:47,853
Speaker 18: Hello mate, I was just waiting you Noah steep dad situations.

1878
01:29:48,372 --> 01:29:51,653
Speaker 3: Oh yep, thank you. Sheer away please buzz.

1879
01:29:52,492 --> 01:29:55,732
Speaker 18: Okay, right, Well, unbelieved this one of the women that

1880
01:29:55,893 --> 01:30:00,733
Speaker 18: I have been with. I was going with for five months,

1881
01:30:01,093 --> 01:30:06,692
Speaker 18: having our little relationship at the pub AND's pictures and whatnot.

1882
01:30:06,973 --> 01:30:10,372
Speaker 18: And it was five months before I actually realized. When

1883
01:30:10,412 --> 01:30:13,333
Speaker 18: I ended up at her house a whole lot of

1884
01:30:13,372 --> 01:30:15,933
Speaker 18: little kids started walking on the back door when I

1885
01:30:15,973 --> 01:30:18,972
Speaker 18: was sitting there with her, and I went, oh my god,

1886
01:30:19,133 --> 01:30:21,973
Speaker 18: she must be a childcake of her full job or

1887
01:30:23,013 --> 01:30:26,053
Speaker 18: and it turned out she had five daughters.

1888
01:30:27,213 --> 01:30:28,772
Speaker 3: Well, Agent, I don't know.

1889
01:30:29,133 --> 01:30:32,812
Speaker 18: I've been going with her for five months before even

1890
01:30:32,853 --> 01:30:34,972
Speaker 18: realized she had a kid in the first place.

1891
01:30:35,492 --> 01:30:36,612
Speaker 3: How what were the ages were?

1892
01:30:36,612 --> 01:30:36,732
Speaker 18: They?

1893
01:30:36,772 --> 01:30:38,412
Speaker 3: Were they five little kids?

1894
01:30:39,732 --> 01:30:43,333
Speaker 18: They just was from six years old up to fourteen

1895
01:30:43,412 --> 01:30:43,972
Speaker 18: years old?

1896
01:30:44,253 --> 01:30:44,773
Speaker 3: Wow?

1897
01:30:45,412 --> 01:30:47,652
Speaker 2: And do you think she get that information from you

1898
01:30:47,772 --> 01:30:50,652
Speaker 2: because she was worried that you would you wouldn't be interested.

1899
01:30:52,532 --> 01:30:55,732
Speaker 18: Well, I still don't even know. To the stay wife

1900
01:30:55,772 --> 01:30:59,812
Speaker 18: she don't it, but yeah, I gave me a surprise,

1901
01:30:59,893 --> 01:31:01,852
Speaker 18: like when she must have been a ked of her

1902
01:31:01,853 --> 01:31:04,772
Speaker 18: as a part time job but it turned out they

1903
01:31:04,812 --> 01:31:05,372
Speaker 18: were hers.

1904
01:31:05,532 --> 01:31:09,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how did that affect your relationship with this

1905
01:31:09,372 --> 01:31:10,453
Speaker 2: this this woman.

1906
01:31:11,893 --> 01:31:16,772
Speaker 18: Become very costly? So you to pull one kid, I

1907
01:31:16,812 --> 01:31:18,093
Speaker 18: got a number four to go.

1908
01:31:21,213 --> 01:31:22,612
Speaker 3: Wow, and as.

1909
01:31:23,293 --> 01:31:26,933
Speaker 18: They couldn't be Tuesday on packing one kid, yeah, I

1910
01:31:26,933 --> 01:31:29,973
Speaker 18: couldn't be tuesy. I had to treat all equal.

1911
01:31:29,973 --> 01:31:31,533
Speaker 3: And ended end of that relationship.

1912
01:31:31,612 --> 01:31:37,492
Speaker 18: Last buzz actually did? I ended up one kids were

1913
01:31:37,612 --> 01:31:42,452
Speaker 18: here of my own, which in the end we actually

1914
01:31:42,572 --> 01:31:48,133
Speaker 18: ended up splitting about probably about six years ago. But

1915
01:31:49,412 --> 01:31:53,373
Speaker 18: my boy, we're here still comes to me every Christmas, holiday,

1916
01:31:53,532 --> 01:31:58,333
Speaker 18: birthday and everything. So we're still close. I'm still close

1917
01:31:58,412 --> 01:32:04,532
Speaker 18: with here. And believe it or not, the she actually

1918
01:32:04,612 --> 01:32:09,293
Speaker 18: happens to know two of my exits. I got kids too.

1919
01:32:09,372 --> 01:32:13,053
Speaker 18: I got three kids to three different mothers, and I'm

1920
01:32:13,053 --> 01:32:16,973
Speaker 18: a step dad's to the all three mothers got the

1921
01:32:17,053 --> 01:32:17,612
Speaker 18: own kids.

1922
01:32:17,732 --> 01:32:19,572
Speaker 3: You're a busy members. So how many is that in

1923
01:32:19,612 --> 01:32:24,372
Speaker 3: total that you're dealing with? Their buzz? And have you

1924
01:32:24,412 --> 01:32:25,132
Speaker 3: done the census?

1925
01:32:25,213 --> 01:32:28,293
Speaker 18: The woman the woman that got five see the five

1926
01:32:28,412 --> 01:32:33,052
Speaker 18: plus mind. I had a woman worth one class, mind,

1927
01:32:33,213 --> 01:32:34,253
Speaker 18: so that's a number two.

1928
01:32:36,253 --> 01:32:36,572
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1929
01:32:36,612 --> 01:32:39,412
Speaker 18: And then the last woman that I had saved three

1930
01:32:39,452 --> 01:32:42,213
Speaker 18: of the plus mind, so that's another four.

1931
01:32:42,412 --> 01:32:43,652
Speaker 6: So I love.

1932
01:32:43,652 --> 01:32:46,852
Speaker 18: Counts, but it's a lot of birthdays and Christmas is

1933
01:32:46,933 --> 01:32:47,652
Speaker 18: to remember.

1934
01:32:47,853 --> 01:32:49,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my math is right.

1935
01:32:49,173 --> 01:32:51,452
Speaker 2: I think you're you're you're running twelve kids and step

1936
01:32:51,532 --> 01:32:52,293
Speaker 2: kids combined.

1937
01:32:52,372 --> 01:32:53,812
Speaker 3: Bars, that's that's that's a lot.

1938
01:32:55,133 --> 01:32:59,412
Speaker 18: Yeah, but I found out that it's the only one

1939
01:32:59,452 --> 01:33:02,612
Speaker 18: that so I've had one of the major problems. My

1940
01:33:02,732 --> 01:33:04,173
Speaker 18: partner happened to die.

1941
01:33:04,333 --> 01:33:05,093
Speaker 6: I was with the.

1942
01:33:05,133 --> 01:33:08,612
Speaker 18: Were seventeen years and she was the one where the

1943
01:33:08,612 --> 01:33:09,333
Speaker 18: five kids.

1944
01:33:09,492 --> 01:33:14,013
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I'm sorry.

1945
01:33:12,492 --> 01:33:17,173
Speaker 18: She dies with an aneurysm after nine day holiday with her.

1946
01:33:17,253 --> 01:33:19,173
Speaker 18: She died in my garage in front of me.

1947
01:33:19,372 --> 01:33:20,932
Speaker 4: Oh scary.

1948
01:33:21,492 --> 01:33:23,572
Speaker 3: And and after that there must have been tougher you.

1949
01:33:23,652 --> 01:33:26,372
Speaker 2: And after that, did you take on the responsibility of

1950
01:33:26,372 --> 01:33:27,573
Speaker 2: those five kids?

1951
01:33:28,333 --> 01:33:30,133
Speaker 3: Yes, wow, you're a.

1952
01:33:30,053 --> 01:33:34,372
Speaker 18: Good now that yeah, now, now that's they're a little

1953
01:33:34,372 --> 01:33:38,013
Speaker 18: bit of teenagers. And that's my partner that I was

1954
01:33:38,093 --> 01:33:42,012
Speaker 18: worked for the seventeen years died eleven years ago, and

1955
01:33:42,093 --> 01:33:45,732
Speaker 18: so I had all the kids up bringing five daughters

1956
01:33:45,812 --> 01:33:47,572
Speaker 18: that I didn't know from a bow.

1957
01:33:47,732 --> 01:33:52,173
Speaker 3: So my goodness, buzz, that is quite a story. Yeah,

1958
01:33:52,293 --> 01:33:55,452
Speaker 3: you're a legiend. I mean, cheapers don't be there to

1959
01:33:55,612 --> 01:33:56,612
Speaker 3: leave me like that.

1960
01:33:58,372 --> 01:34:01,132
Speaker 18: Yeah, they aroys got hold of there on the spot.

1961
01:34:01,692 --> 01:34:05,053
Speaker 3: Wow. And and and did you say she passed away

1962
01:34:05,093 --> 01:34:05,853
Speaker 3: in your garage?

1963
01:34:06,933 --> 01:34:09,532
Speaker 18: Yes, we've just got back from a nine day trip

1964
01:34:09,652 --> 01:34:13,732
Speaker 18: up road to row and to see her sisters. And

1965
01:34:14,253 --> 01:34:17,132
Speaker 18: we had sat down when we'd just bolding the driveway,

1966
01:34:17,973 --> 01:34:20,692
Speaker 18: and she asked if I had a panado, and I

1967
01:34:20,772 --> 01:34:23,013
Speaker 18: went to get one out the car before that we

1968
01:34:23,093 --> 01:34:27,293
Speaker 18: even went inside, and she screamed as loud as crazy

1969
01:34:27,532 --> 01:34:33,013
Speaker 18: and just stopped screaming. And I don't know if she

1970
01:34:33,213 --> 01:34:36,772
Speaker 18: was still sore or what. And I looked at her

1971
01:34:36,853 --> 01:34:40,012
Speaker 18: for about twenty seconds before I realized it wasn't good,

1972
01:34:40,732 --> 01:34:43,532
Speaker 18: and I shok her and she just never moved. She

1973
01:34:43,572 --> 01:34:45,652
Speaker 18: went out like someone turned off the lights.

1974
01:34:46,093 --> 01:34:46,372
Speaker 3: Wow.

1975
01:34:46,532 --> 01:34:48,892
Speaker 2: That must have been intense. And then you would have

1976
01:34:48,893 --> 01:34:51,293
Speaker 2: had to break the news to the daughters.

1977
01:34:51,572 --> 01:34:54,452
Speaker 18: Yeah, we had only just got back from our holiday

1978
01:34:54,492 --> 01:34:57,333
Speaker 18: and said did at our house that we'd live in

1979
01:34:57,372 --> 01:34:59,572
Speaker 18: them for the seventeen years.

1980
01:34:59,973 --> 01:35:00,372
Speaker 3: Wow.

1981
01:35:00,692 --> 01:35:02,532
Speaker 18: Yeah, that was a pretty hard story.

1982
01:35:02,532 --> 01:35:04,653
Speaker 6: But yeah, believe.

1983
01:35:04,333 --> 01:35:07,452
Speaker 18: It or not the other two exes the store have

1984
01:35:07,612 --> 01:35:11,932
Speaker 18: coffees were may worth their goods. And now I'm single

1985
01:35:12,492 --> 01:35:17,893
Speaker 18: after my partner died. So and I still see the partners.

1986
01:35:18,053 --> 01:35:21,692
Speaker 18: It's got their own huts buds now and I still

1987
01:35:21,732 --> 01:35:23,692
Speaker 18: see them and they have a coffee worth them with

1988
01:35:23,893 --> 01:35:30,372
Speaker 18: my goods. So stepdads can work if you just carry

1989
01:35:30,412 --> 01:35:33,572
Speaker 18: on with life as so that's the best you can.

1990
01:35:33,853 --> 01:35:36,612
Speaker 3: You've got a great attitude, Buzz. That's a story. Yeah,

1991
01:35:36,772 --> 01:35:39,012
Speaker 3: that is a hell of a life you've lived lived,

1992
01:35:39,093 --> 01:35:42,093
Speaker 3: But I mean amazing that you stepped up, Buzz to

1993
01:35:42,133 --> 01:35:45,293
Speaker 3: take responsibility for those children. You're a hell of a man. Right.

1994
01:35:45,692 --> 01:35:47,932
Speaker 3: It is twenty six past three. We're going to play

1995
01:35:47,973 --> 01:35:50,852
Speaker 3: some messages, but we're taking your calls on eight hundred

1996
01:35:50,973 --> 01:35:54,133
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty step Parent Advice. If you've been there,

1997
01:35:54,213 --> 01:35:55,412
Speaker 3: done that, back in a.

1998
01:35:55,372 --> 01:36:02,492
Speaker 1: Mow Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh, eight

1999
01:36:02,572 --> 01:36:05,852
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB afternoon.

2000
01:36:05,893 --> 01:36:09,933
Speaker 3: It is twenty eight pass through three. We'll wrap this

2001
01:36:09,973 --> 01:36:11,812
Speaker 3: one up with a few texts. We've had so many

2002
01:36:11,933 --> 01:36:14,853
Speaker 3: over the last hour talking about stepparents.

2003
01:36:14,893 --> 01:36:18,612
Speaker 2: My wife's ex had terminal cancer. His last words to

2004
01:36:18,652 --> 01:36:21,012
Speaker 2: me was, thank you for raising our kids so well.

2005
01:36:21,412 --> 01:36:23,532
Speaker 2: Respect from the birth parents is the key, Steve.

2006
01:36:23,572 --> 01:36:24,932
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lovely text.

2007
01:36:25,053 --> 01:36:28,452
Speaker 2: Wow his last words, thanks for raising our kids so well.

2008
01:36:28,612 --> 01:36:30,093
Speaker 2: That's a pretty beautiful time.

2009
01:36:30,173 --> 01:36:30,852
Speaker 3: And get better than that.

2010
01:36:30,893 --> 01:36:33,133
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, the woman who texted about not remarrying and

2011
01:36:33,173 --> 01:36:35,293
Speaker 2: bringing up children on her own has it one hundred

2012
01:36:35,333 --> 01:36:37,612
Speaker 2: percent correct. Children are most likely to be murdered by

2013
01:36:37,612 --> 01:36:39,852
Speaker 2: a step father. Children are safer going to live with

2014
01:36:39,893 --> 01:36:42,213
Speaker 2: a father and stepmother than living with a mother and

2015
01:36:42,253 --> 01:36:45,933
Speaker 2: her latest boyfriend. Stepfather doesn't happen in every relationship, but

2016
01:36:46,973 --> 01:36:49,613
Speaker 2: we're young. Children are murdered. It is mostly the stepfather.

2017
01:36:50,213 --> 01:36:55,532
Speaker 2: That's from Diane. Yeah, but so so. This is responding

2018
01:36:55,572 --> 01:36:57,213
Speaker 2: to that text. Bad things happens when you let a

2019
01:36:57,213 --> 01:37:00,172
Speaker 2: stepparent into your house, especially a man. They cannot be trusted.

2020
01:37:00,213 --> 01:37:03,253
Speaker 2: Mothers should live for their children, not for themselves. I

2021
01:37:03,333 --> 01:37:05,892
Speaker 2: never remarried. I knuckled down and brought up them up

2022
01:37:05,933 --> 01:37:08,852
Speaker 2: on my own. Three children, no stepparent. Who are these

2023
01:37:08,893 --> 01:37:11,572
Speaker 2: people letting an adult into the house. What do they

2024
01:37:11,572 --> 01:37:14,772
Speaker 2: think will happen? Are responsible? I mean it is sure

2025
01:37:14,973 --> 01:37:19,532
Speaker 2: it is more likely for you know, statistically for a

2026
01:37:19,612 --> 01:37:24,653
Speaker 2: child to get murdered for the stepfather, but still incredibly unlikely,

2027
01:37:25,133 --> 01:37:28,732
Speaker 2: And surely you can back yourself to decide of someone,

2028
01:37:29,293 --> 01:37:31,652
Speaker 2: generally speaking, if you're going to bring them into your life,

2029
01:37:31,652 --> 01:37:34,013
Speaker 2: that they're a good person. I mean, the idea that

2030
01:37:34,053 --> 01:37:36,932
Speaker 2: you would just completely shut up the shop for romance

2031
01:37:37,053 --> 01:37:41,333
Speaker 2: because you've got children and your relationship hasn't I mean,

2032
01:37:41,452 --> 01:37:44,973
Speaker 2: what if your partner's passed away or something, or the

2033
01:37:45,013 --> 01:37:48,013
Speaker 2: relationship hasn't worked, that you, just as a woman, you

2034
01:37:48,053 --> 01:37:51,053
Speaker 2: should just absolutely shut up shop. Because there are some

2035
01:37:51,213 --> 01:37:53,812
Speaker 2: bad step fathers out there. I mean, there's no doubt

2036
01:37:53,812 --> 01:37:56,692
Speaker 2: that there are. But there are also many, many, many,

2037
01:37:56,812 --> 01:38:00,133
Speaker 2: many very good men out there that will make the

2038
01:38:00,612 --> 01:38:04,692
Speaker 2: life better for everyone in the family. So I mean

2039
01:38:04,692 --> 01:38:07,372
Speaker 2: that's the thing with statistics. Sure it's more likely, but

2040
01:38:07,372 --> 01:38:09,053
Speaker 2: it's still very, very unlikely.

2041
01:38:09,572 --> 01:38:16,372
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent agree. Got time for one final one? Yeah,

2042
01:38:16,412 --> 01:38:19,933
Speaker 3: we'll do this one. Eh oh, this one here, I'm

2043
01:38:20,013 --> 01:38:22,852
Speaker 3: just speed reading to make sure it's on point. Hey, guys,

2044
01:38:22,933 --> 01:38:26,812
Speaker 3: we bought them a few years ago. Get one half priced, guys.

2045
01:38:26,812 --> 01:38:29,612
Speaker 3: I can't stop thinking about hmm, maybe this is a

2046
01:38:29,612 --> 01:38:31,213
Speaker 3: little bit off the reservation. This one. I don't know

2047
01:38:31,253 --> 01:38:33,012
Speaker 3: if this is quite about step parents.

2048
01:38:33,133 --> 01:38:34,812
Speaker 2: I think she's getting angry because I said that that

2049
01:38:34,853 --> 01:38:39,173
Speaker 2: woman's crazy. Ah, okay, right, I can't. She sounded extremely hurt,

2050
01:38:39,213 --> 01:38:41,452
Speaker 2: more than normal. I can't help wondering if one of

2051
01:38:41,492 --> 01:38:44,492
Speaker 2: her children may have been abused, possibly by an next

2052
01:38:44,532 --> 01:38:46,933
Speaker 2: partner step dad, just saying as she could really be

2053
01:38:47,013 --> 01:38:48,812
Speaker 2: hurting behind the scenes. And I feel you are a

2054
01:38:48,853 --> 01:38:51,772
Speaker 2: wee bit harsh, Matt. Oh, maybe I was really a

2055
01:38:51,812 --> 01:38:55,052
Speaker 2: bit harsh but on this woman. But just to say

2056
01:38:55,093 --> 01:38:58,932
Speaker 2: that that, I mean, she was pretty harsh because she's

2057
01:38:58,973 --> 01:39:04,532
Speaker 2: saying that it's irresponsible for a mum to bring in

2058
01:39:04,532 --> 01:39:08,973
Speaker 2: a stepdad. But so you're just condemning all women to

2059
01:39:08,973 --> 01:39:10,892
Speaker 2: be alone forever if they've got children and they lose

2060
01:39:10,933 --> 01:39:11,492
Speaker 2: their partner.

2061
01:39:11,572 --> 01:39:12,973
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of people out there with

2062
01:39:13,013 --> 01:39:15,932
Speaker 3: the intelligence to be able to find another good human

2063
01:39:15,973 --> 01:39:18,333
Speaker 3: that they might bring into their lives to help raise

2064
01:39:18,572 --> 01:39:21,133
Speaker 3: their kids in a wholesome way. As we've heard for

2065
01:39:21,133 --> 01:39:23,572
Speaker 3: the last sixty minutes, right, there are plenty of guys

2066
01:39:23,572 --> 01:39:25,732
Speaker 3: out there and women for that matter, who would be

2067
01:39:25,853 --> 01:39:28,692
Speaker 3: absolutely great for your children if you bring them into

2068
01:39:28,692 --> 01:39:29,012
Speaker 3: your life.

2069
01:39:29,133 --> 01:39:32,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's very harsh to say it's irresponsible

2070
01:39:32,253 --> 01:39:34,372
Speaker 2: to bring us it's irresponsible.

2071
01:39:33,652 --> 01:39:35,093
Speaker 3: To bring a dodgy step there.

2072
01:39:35,173 --> 01:39:37,892
Speaker 2: Then yeah, absolutely, do you know that there's there's a

2073
01:39:37,933 --> 01:39:40,612
Speaker 2: problem with the person, that's absolutely responsible. But to say

2074
01:39:40,612 --> 01:39:44,212
Speaker 2: that everyone that is running a family, a combined family,

2075
01:39:44,333 --> 01:39:46,892
Speaker 2: is irresponsible, you know, just that true?

2076
01:39:47,013 --> 01:39:49,293
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's a crazy thing to say. Yeah,

2077
01:39:49,333 --> 01:39:51,732
Speaker 3: great discussion. Thank you very much to everyone who phoned

2078
01:39:51,772 --> 01:39:55,293
Speaker 3: and text on that one. Coming up. Japanese walking is

2079
01:39:55,293 --> 01:39:57,572
Speaker 3: what they're calling it on TikTok and Instagram. It's the

2080
01:39:57,652 --> 01:40:00,852
Speaker 3: latest trend. But can you really get in shape just

2081
01:40:00,973 --> 01:40:05,013
Speaker 3: by walking? Yeah? Look, this is my take on this.

2082
01:40:06,013 --> 01:40:07,133
Speaker 3: Walking is an exercise.

2083
01:40:07,173 --> 01:40:09,972
Speaker 2: It's great for the mental health, and it's and it's

2084
01:40:10,612 --> 01:40:12,892
Speaker 2: you know, great for the dog, and it's great to

2085
01:40:12,973 --> 01:40:14,692
Speaker 2: go for a walk hand in hand with your partner

2086
01:40:14,692 --> 01:40:18,173
Speaker 2: after dinner. But is it really exercise or as are

2087
01:40:18,213 --> 01:40:20,932
Speaker 2: people just finding ways to be lazy and pretend they're exercising.

2088
01:40:21,053 --> 01:40:24,412
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty come adam nine ninety

2089
01:40:24,412 --> 01:40:26,933
Speaker 3: two standing by for that one. It is bang on

2090
01:40:27,732 --> 01:40:29,812
Speaker 3: each not bang on it's twenty seven or four.

2091
01:40:32,372 --> 01:40:36,012
Speaker 12: Deus talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

2092
01:40:36,093 --> 01:40:39,412
Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. Food safety news edunder

2093
01:40:39,492 --> 01:40:43,052
Speaker 12: is dismissing a study that calls campbeller back to infection

2094
01:40:43,293 --> 01:40:48,612
Speaker 12: rates and epidemic is overblown. It says the paper's methodology

2095
01:40:48,772 --> 01:40:53,052
Speaker 12: has significant limitations and its conclusions are not supported by evidence.

2096
01:40:54,013 --> 01:40:56,973
Speaker 12: Health Minister Simeon Brown's been kicked out of Parliament for

2097
01:40:57,013 --> 01:41:00,452
Speaker 12: an ill advised quip that didn't leave the speaker laughing.

2098
01:41:00,893 --> 01:41:05,532
Speaker 12: Browna's tertiary Education Minister Penny Simmons if financial literacy courses

2099
01:41:05,572 --> 01:41:09,453
Speaker 12: would be available and members of the opposition and be eligible.

2100
01:41:10,572 --> 01:41:14,252
Speaker 12: Carmel College on Auckland's north shore is no longer in lockdown.

2101
01:41:14,532 --> 01:41:17,333
Speaker 12: All students and staff are safe and accounted for. A

2102
01:41:17,452 --> 01:41:20,213
Speaker 12: notice we'll go out to parents and caregivers with details

2103
01:41:20,333 --> 01:41:23,972
Speaker 12: later today. A sixty year old man and fifty six

2104
01:41:24,013 --> 01:41:27,452
Speaker 12: year old woman have been charged with neglect over a

2105
01:41:27,492 --> 01:41:31,052
Speaker 12: four year old girl's death in kai Kohe ten years ago.

2106
01:41:32,093 --> 01:41:35,173
Speaker 12: Forest three company Seeview Logging Limited's been fined more than

2107
01:41:35,213 --> 01:41:38,892
Speaker 12: one hundred thousand dollars for repeated standards breaches at a

2108
01:41:38,933 --> 01:41:42,852
Speaker 12: farm near Wyhi. In the palm of his hand, the

2109
01:41:42,973 --> 01:41:45,852
Speaker 12: rise of a third Top New Zealand Men shot putter.

2110
01:41:46,253 --> 01:41:48,973
Speaker 12: See the story at enzid Herald Premium. Now back to

2111
01:41:49,013 --> 01:41:50,333
Speaker 12: Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

2112
01:41:50,333 --> 01:41:52,812
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lane. Right this, I already

2113
01:41:52,812 --> 01:41:54,452
Speaker 3: know this is going to be a great chat because

2114
01:41:54,532 --> 01:41:57,532
Speaker 3: the text machine has already blown up. Yeah.

2115
01:41:57,612 --> 01:42:03,053
Speaker 2: So Japanese walking, you see it everywhere on Instagram and

2116
01:42:03,173 --> 01:42:06,173
Speaker 2: TikTok and anything that's a TikTok sensation you've got to

2117
01:42:06,173 --> 01:42:10,333
Speaker 2: look at and go. But you know, the Japanese have

2118
01:42:10,372 --> 01:42:11,692
Speaker 2: come up with some of the greatest things.

2119
01:42:11,492 --> 01:42:11,932
Speaker 3: In the wild.

2120
01:42:11,933 --> 01:42:12,213
Speaker 4: They have.

2121
01:42:12,372 --> 01:42:16,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, very very very innovative nation.

2122
01:42:16,853 --> 01:42:20,093
Speaker 2: This is the official word for it, is a description

2123
01:42:20,173 --> 01:42:23,293
Speaker 2: of it as or named for it. Sorrys interval walking training, right,

2124
01:42:23,333 --> 01:42:27,573
Speaker 2: So interval three minutes fast at seventy percent peak aerobic capacity.

2125
01:42:27,612 --> 01:42:29,892
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know how you analyze that.

2126
01:42:29,933 --> 01:42:33,452
Speaker 2: What's seventy percent of your peak aerobic capacity? And that's

2127
01:42:33,893 --> 01:42:37,452
Speaker 2: pretty powerful walking three minutes slow at forty percent of

2128
01:42:37,492 --> 01:42:38,652
Speaker 2: your peak aerobic capacity.

2129
01:42:38,812 --> 01:42:40,612
Speaker 3: Right, So I guess you just have a lot of

2130
01:42:40,652 --> 01:42:41,053
Speaker 3: maths here.

2131
01:42:41,093 --> 01:42:43,372
Speaker 2: You have to estimate that repeat for thirty minutes at

2132
01:42:43,452 --> 01:42:48,413
Speaker 2: least four days a week, and it will, apparently, according

2133
01:42:49,213 --> 01:42:54,412
Speaker 2: to science, just have a look here clinically supported improvements

2134
01:42:54,412 --> 01:43:01,692
Speaker 2: blood pressure, fitness, cholesterol, BMI, and endurance. Also potential extra

2135
01:43:01,692 --> 01:43:07,173
Speaker 2: benefits of sleep, cognition, mood, and pair as well with mindfulness.

2136
01:43:07,893 --> 01:43:10,892
Speaker 2: There so apparently it's great.

2137
01:43:11,452 --> 01:43:14,293
Speaker 3: I mean, look, these always sound way better than they

2138
01:43:14,293 --> 01:43:17,012
Speaker 3: actually are. And I love walking. I'm a massive walker.

2139
01:43:17,692 --> 01:43:21,172
Speaker 3: Mainly I do the walking because I don't like running,

2140
01:43:21,652 --> 01:43:24,053
Speaker 3: and at this point I'm not doing much gym work,

2141
01:43:24,253 --> 01:43:26,732
Speaker 3: so I like to think that's my exercise. Take the

2142
01:43:26,772 --> 01:43:29,772
Speaker 3: weed dog out, do a walk, sometimes up hill, sometimes

2143
01:43:29,812 --> 01:43:32,652
Speaker 3: on flat land. I absolutely love it. But is it

2144
01:43:32,772 --> 01:43:36,612
Speaker 3: really exercise? That is the big question. And I'll tell

2145
01:43:36,652 --> 01:43:40,652
Speaker 3: you what. I started doing that. Someone laughed at me

2146
01:43:40,692 --> 01:43:43,333
Speaker 3: when I started doing it. You know those weighted vests,

2147
01:43:43,692 --> 01:43:46,173
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, those wee camo ones. Yeah yeah. I tried

2148
01:43:46,213 --> 01:43:48,452
Speaker 3: to give that a wee go and I got some

2149
01:43:48,492 --> 01:43:50,732
Speaker 3: funny looks and I got quite embarrassed about it, so

2150
01:43:50,772 --> 01:43:52,692
Speaker 3: I didn't do it anymore. Right, But again, that was

2151
01:43:52,732 --> 01:43:55,532
Speaker 3: another trend. I have the courage of your convictions. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but again, does that really do anything?

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01:43:57,093 --> 01:43:57,293
Speaker 6: You know?

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01:43:57,692 --> 01:43:59,372
Speaker 2: Can you need to buy a jacket? Can't you just

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01:43:59,372 --> 01:44:00,452
Speaker 2: put some sand in your pockets?

2156
01:44:00,772 --> 01:44:02,253
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I guess.

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01:44:02,293 --> 01:44:03,852
Speaker 2: My point is there's a lot of people kicking back

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01:44:03,853 --> 01:44:05,053
Speaker 2: on it, and I'd love to hear people e one

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01:44:05,093 --> 01:44:07,892
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty who have walked their way

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01:44:08,053 --> 01:44:11,492
Speaker 2: to weight loss and fitness with these kind of things.

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01:44:11,572 --> 01:44:15,012
Speaker 2: They say, it's only thirty minutes walking four times a week,

2162
01:44:15,253 --> 01:44:17,692
Speaker 2: and these are big claims being made by it. There's

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01:44:17,732 --> 01:44:20,173
Speaker 2: no doubt that walking and getting out is better than

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01:44:20,213 --> 01:44:23,212
Speaker 2: not walking and getting out. My point is the claims

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01:44:23,213 --> 01:44:30,452
Speaker 2: that they make, these punishes, these horrible social media fitness influences,

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01:44:30,772 --> 01:44:34,253
Speaker 2: they play on saying that they've got the solution for

2167
01:44:34,293 --> 01:44:37,852
Speaker 2: you that's easy, and there isn't an easy solution. So

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01:44:38,013 --> 01:44:40,812
Speaker 2: I'd like they are claiming the benefits that you get

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01:44:40,812 --> 01:44:43,053
Speaker 2: from running from walking, and so people read it and

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01:44:43,053 --> 01:44:45,892
Speaker 2: they go and they follow this, and then they're trying

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01:44:45,933 --> 01:44:48,972
Speaker 2: to get money off you, these influencers or engagement or whatever,

2172
01:44:49,893 --> 01:44:51,772
Speaker 2: and people want to hear that they can get the

2173
01:44:51,812 --> 01:44:56,492
Speaker 2: benefits that you get from strenuous exercise from just walking

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01:44:56,853 --> 01:45:00,972
Speaker 2: for thirty minutes four times a week. And in the end,

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01:45:01,452 --> 01:45:04,972
Speaker 2: it's not when it comes to weight loss particularly, it's

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01:45:04,973 --> 01:45:08,133
Speaker 2: what you're eating. It's what you're eating is going to

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01:45:08,133 --> 01:45:09,213
Speaker 2: make difference.

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01:45:08,812 --> 01:45:11,093
Speaker 3: Between whether you're whether you're overweight or not.

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Speaker 2: You know you have to walk a very very long

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01:45:13,253 --> 01:45:17,093
Speaker 2: way to burn off a burger. Yeah, so your per

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01:45:17,173 --> 01:45:22,173
Speaker 2: usual siss Texter, Matt, you don't know what you're talking about, retrainer.

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01:45:23,093 --> 01:45:24,852
Speaker 2: Ask a trainer and they will tell you a good

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01:45:24,933 --> 01:45:27,412
Speaker 2: brisk walk is just as good as a run. Do

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01:45:27,572 --> 01:45:31,972
Speaker 2: your bloody homework. Well, really really is okay, fitness trainer?

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01:45:32,013 --> 01:45:34,572
Speaker 2: Can can someone tell me if there's a fitness trainer

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01:45:34,612 --> 01:45:34,932
Speaker 2: out there?

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01:45:34,933 --> 01:45:35,412
Speaker 3: Can someone?

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01:45:36,013 --> 01:45:38,053
Speaker 2: Is that true that a walk is the same or

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01:45:38,093 --> 01:45:40,093
Speaker 2: as good as a run? I just I think it's

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01:45:40,093 --> 01:45:40,812
Speaker 2: a very different thing.

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01:45:40,853 --> 01:45:42,892
Speaker 3: I run. I'm training to run a marathon at the moment.

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01:45:42,893 --> 01:45:44,772
Speaker 3: You do a lot of running, and I also walk

2193
01:45:44,812 --> 01:45:47,173
Speaker 3: the dog every day, and the walking of the dog

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01:45:47,692 --> 01:45:51,133
Speaker 3: for half an hour is very different than the hour

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01:45:51,213 --> 01:45:54,452
Speaker 3: long run I'm doing. Oh eight one hundred, very very different.

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01:45:54,492 --> 01:45:56,333
Speaker 3: Oh eate one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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01:45:56,452 --> 01:45:58,973
Speaker 2: Graham agrees walking is not working out. Imagine if the

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01:45:59,013 --> 01:46:02,933
Speaker 2: All Blacks just walked, they would get smashed exactly. I

2199
01:46:02,973 --> 01:46:05,053
Speaker 2: get why you're dubious about it, because these things pop

2200
01:46:05,133 --> 01:46:07,773
Speaker 2: up time and time again, and this is a shortcut

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01:46:07,933 --> 01:46:10,253
Speaker 2: for your way to get fit and get back in shape.

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01:46:10,253 --> 01:46:13,333
Speaker 2: And if you're worried about your BMI or type two diabetes,

2203
01:46:13,412 --> 01:46:15,572
Speaker 2: this is going to solve your problems. And what you're

2204
01:46:15,612 --> 01:46:18,892
Speaker 2: saying is if you want to get fit and healthy,

2205
01:46:18,973 --> 01:46:21,333
Speaker 2: that requires work and it's going to be hard and you.

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01:46:21,293 --> 01:46:24,972
Speaker 3: Have to accept that. Nobody gets shortcuts to get healthy. Again,

2207
01:46:25,053 --> 01:46:25,692
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying.

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01:46:25,772 --> 01:46:27,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone wants to hear that all you need to

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01:46:27,933 --> 01:46:30,973
Speaker 2: do is go for a walk. But definitely walking is

2210
01:46:30,973 --> 01:46:32,692
Speaker 2: better than not walking. I'm not saying it is, but

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01:46:32,732 --> 01:46:35,972
Speaker 2: it's just not comparable. Saying that walking is not exercise.

2212
01:46:36,053 --> 01:46:38,732
Speaker 2: Exercising is like saying that having a snack is not eating.

2213
01:46:39,612 --> 01:46:42,252
Speaker 2: What a complete idiot you are. Of course walking is exercise.

2214
01:46:42,333 --> 01:46:43,572
Speaker 2: Your pathetics is this text?

2215
01:46:43,812 --> 01:46:45,572
Speaker 3: This has got people worked up right? Oh eight one

2216
01:46:45,612 --> 01:46:48,732
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty Who knew that the walking

2217
01:46:48,772 --> 01:46:52,572
Speaker 3: lobby was so aggressive? Yeah? Can you really get super

2218
01:46:52,572 --> 01:46:55,333
Speaker 3: fit just by walking? Have you tried this Japanese walking

2219
01:46:55,412 --> 01:46:58,372
Speaker 3: into a walking technique really can make it from you

2220
01:46:58,452 --> 01:47:00,372
Speaker 3: have all the dumb things you've said, this is probably

2221
01:47:00,412 --> 01:47:02,492
Speaker 3: one of the dumbest, Probably one of the dumbest. It's

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01:47:02,492 --> 01:47:05,492
Speaker 3: in the top twenty. Of course walking is exercise.

2223
01:47:05,532 --> 01:47:07,932
Speaker 2: Get outside your own age group and think about people

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01:47:07,973 --> 01:47:10,213
Speaker 2: who are older who aren't able to run.

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01:47:10,692 --> 01:47:12,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, well absolutely.

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01:47:12,053 --> 01:47:13,932
Speaker 2: I mean if you can't run, walk, sure, but if

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01:47:13,973 --> 01:47:16,492
Speaker 2: you can run, then running's better than walking.

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01:47:16,973 --> 01:47:20,412
Speaker 3: The phone lines have absolutely led. The text machine's going crazy, right,

2229
01:47:20,492 --> 01:47:23,572
Speaker 3: let's get into it. It is eighteen to four have

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01:47:23,692 --> 01:47:24,253
Speaker 3: a chat.

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01:47:24,133 --> 01:47:26,933
Speaker 1: With the lads on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Mad

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01:47:27,093 --> 01:47:30,212
Speaker 1: Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons used talk za'd.

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01:47:30,093 --> 01:47:33,652
Speaker 3: Be very good afternoons use. So the phone lines of

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01:47:33,732 --> 01:47:38,412
Speaker 3: lit up airs has the text machine is walking? Well,

2235
01:47:38,452 --> 01:47:41,213
Speaker 3: of course it is exercised. But can you walk your

2236
01:47:41,253 --> 01:47:46,253
Speaker 3: self to healthy physique and a healthy body? O eight

2237
01:47:46,293 --> 01:47:48,133
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of courts called

2238
01:47:48,173 --> 01:47:52,852
Speaker 3: Japanese walking. It's taken off on TikTok and Instagram, but

2239
01:47:52,973 --> 01:47:55,652
Speaker 3: the phone number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Stop being such a douche canoe man. Physiotherapists at the

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01:47:59,412 --> 01:48:01,932
Speaker 2: heart Rehab recommend walking over running.

2242
01:48:02,093 --> 01:48:02,852
Speaker 3: Douche canoe.

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01:48:03,133 --> 01:48:07,772
Speaker 2: Yeah but okay maybe, but you can't tell me that

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01:48:07,973 --> 01:48:12,133
Speaker 2: walking is comparable to running, which is basically what these

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01:48:12,492 --> 01:48:14,812
Speaker 2: tech took influencers are saying it's a totally different thing.

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01:48:15,013 --> 01:48:16,652
Speaker 3: But John, you think a long walk is as good

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01:48:16,652 --> 01:48:17,093
Speaker 3: as a run?

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01:48:18,732 --> 01:48:19,133
Speaker 6: I know it.

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01:48:19,492 --> 01:48:22,612
Speaker 8: I'm absolutely clear on this. Some of your listen might

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Speaker 8: remember the push play campaign about twenty years ago. Yeah,

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01:48:25,812 --> 01:48:28,173
Speaker 8: I remember around thirty minutes a day.

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01:48:28,772 --> 01:48:29,852
Speaker 3: Yep, I remember that.

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01:48:29,772 --> 01:48:32,933
Speaker 8: And yeah I was behind that and we did a

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01:48:32,973 --> 01:48:35,173
Speaker 8: lot of research and we got the British Medical Journal

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01:48:35,173 --> 01:48:36,732
Speaker 8: to look into it and all that sort of thing.

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Speaker 6: So just a couple of.

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01:48:38,213 --> 01:48:41,732
Speaker 8: Quick points, guys. If you want to get thinner, it's

2258
01:48:41,772 --> 01:48:43,892
Speaker 8: about what you put in your mouth, Yeah, and how

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01:48:43,933 --> 01:48:46,612
Speaker 8: often you put it there. That is that is the

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01:48:46,692 --> 01:48:49,412
Speaker 8: key to the door. A bit of exercise helps, but

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01:48:49,572 --> 01:48:52,812
Speaker 8: it's it's what you can show but on the on

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01:48:52,853 --> 01:48:55,772
Speaker 8: the walking versus running, just a quick point. If you

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01:48:55,853 --> 01:48:57,933
Speaker 8: want a hundred kilos and you walk a mile or

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01:48:58,333 --> 01:49:02,173
Speaker 8: you walk five kilometers, you're using the same number of

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01:49:02,173 --> 01:49:06,772
Speaker 8: calories moving that weight that distance. Whether you're walking or running,

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01:49:07,173 --> 01:49:10,132
Speaker 8: you're burning the same amount of energy. If you run,

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01:49:10,572 --> 01:49:13,972
Speaker 8: you might improve your aerobic fitness, but you're not using

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01:49:14,013 --> 01:49:15,812
Speaker 8: more energy. You're just doing it quicker.

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01:49:16,293 --> 01:49:16,732
Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 3: I just and I'm not clearly you're an expert in this, John,

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01:49:20,333 --> 01:49:22,692
Speaker 3: if you help put together that program, but genuinely, and

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01:49:22,732 --> 01:49:24,852
Speaker 3: I measure this on my weee Apple watch when I

2273
01:49:24,933 --> 01:49:26,732
Speaker 3: go for a walk, and I can see and estimate

2274
01:49:26,812 --> 01:49:29,333
Speaker 3: how many calories I'm burning judging by my heart rate, etc.

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01:49:30,133 --> 01:49:32,572
Speaker 3: I burn far more calories when I go for a

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01:49:32,572 --> 01:49:34,692
Speaker 3: twenty minute run than I do for a twenty minute walk,

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01:49:34,772 --> 01:49:35,932
Speaker 3: even if I'm walking up hill.

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01:49:37,893 --> 01:49:40,133
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, you're exerting more energy. But at the end

2279
01:49:40,133 --> 01:49:42,812
Speaker 8: of the day, they say, the people that I've read about,

2280
01:49:42,893 --> 01:49:46,492
Speaker 8: they say, look, you're getting the same health benefits, apart

2281
01:49:46,532 --> 01:49:49,612
Speaker 8: from the aerobic fitness which you might get on the

2282
01:49:49,612 --> 01:49:52,732
Speaker 8: other side of that coin, you're wearing out your joints.

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01:49:53,093 --> 01:49:56,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, but say John, for me, I'm training for a

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01:49:56,612 --> 01:49:59,173
Speaker 2: marathon at the end of the year, right, so if

2285
01:49:59,173 --> 01:50:01,452
Speaker 2: I'm going to that's what I can. I'm talking about

2286
01:50:01,652 --> 01:50:05,132
Speaker 2: health benefits one hundred percent degree. And people should absolutely walk.

2287
01:50:05,572 --> 01:50:08,012
Speaker 2: Walking is better than not walking. But there's a difference

2288
01:50:08,013 --> 01:50:11,732
Speaker 2: between what's been claimed on these TikTok videos. And you must,

2289
01:50:11,772 --> 01:50:14,693
Speaker 2: as a person that's worked in the area, be suspicious

2290
01:50:14,732 --> 01:50:17,652
Speaker 2: of the incredible claims that get made on social media

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01:50:17,732 --> 01:50:21,652
Speaker 2: about health. As you say, for example, you know, it's

2292
01:50:21,652 --> 01:50:25,572
Speaker 2: what goes in. Really that's about weight, these claims on

2293
01:50:25,853 --> 01:50:28,093
Speaker 2: TikTok or saying that you can lose all the weight,

2294
01:50:28,333 --> 01:50:30,492
Speaker 2: But that's less of my point. My point is there's

2295
01:50:30,612 --> 01:50:34,733
Speaker 2: walking for health, and then there's something that is exercise

2296
01:50:35,053 --> 01:50:38,372
Speaker 2: and training, which is which is a more extreme end

2297
01:50:38,372 --> 01:50:40,372
Speaker 2: of it. And I just don't think. I think they're

2298
01:50:40,412 --> 01:50:44,293
Speaker 2: just so incredibly different. Walking for an hour compared to

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01:50:44,333 --> 01:50:47,972
Speaker 2: walking for running for an hour are just such widely

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01:50:48,013 --> 01:50:48,732
Speaker 2: different things.

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01:50:49,133 --> 01:50:49,972
Speaker 3: Would you agree?

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01:50:51,253 --> 01:50:52,973
Speaker 8: I would agree that if you're walking for an hour

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01:50:52,973 --> 01:50:54,452
Speaker 8: and running for an hour, you're going to burn more

2304
01:50:54,532 --> 01:50:57,052
Speaker 8: energy running for an hour. But if you think about

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01:50:57,053 --> 01:50:59,933
Speaker 8: it in distance, well, I'm going to go for a

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01:50:59,933 --> 01:51:02,173
Speaker 8: five k walk for a five k run. Yeah, the

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01:51:02,253 --> 01:51:04,692
Speaker 8: numbers say you're basically going to use the same amount

2308
01:51:04,732 --> 01:51:07,092
Speaker 8: of energy moving that body that distance.

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01:51:07,372 --> 01:51:09,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what you would say you're saying, you're saying

2310
01:51:09,652 --> 01:51:13,452
Speaker 2: distance over time. So these these things are claiming time.

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01:51:14,133 --> 01:51:16,293
Speaker 2: So yeah, I can totally agree with you if you

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01:51:16,333 --> 01:51:19,692
Speaker 2: walk for if you walk for ten k and then

2313
01:51:19,812 --> 01:51:22,093
Speaker 2: then sure, But if you run for half an hour

2314
01:51:22,173 --> 01:51:24,452
Speaker 2: versus walking for half an hour, then the running for

2315
01:51:24,492 --> 01:51:26,293
Speaker 2: half an hour is going to be more extreme.

2316
01:51:26,333 --> 01:51:26,772
Speaker 3: Obviously.

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01:51:28,093 --> 01:51:31,333
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the thing that's versus time. If you walk

2318
01:51:31,372 --> 01:51:34,812
Speaker 8: a marathon, you'll still be at the end of it

2319
01:51:35,973 --> 01:51:38,732
Speaker 8: and mobbly on your legs, And he would have burned

2320
01:51:38,732 --> 01:51:41,612
Speaker 8: a lot of calories walking forty two and it'll take

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01:51:41,652 --> 01:51:43,372
Speaker 8: a couple other guys just did it a lot faster.

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01:51:43,933 --> 01:51:45,933
Speaker 2: But but yeah, I mean I think that what was

2323
01:51:45,933 --> 01:51:47,612
Speaker 2: it called push push push for play?

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01:51:47,612 --> 01:51:47,933
Speaker 3: What was it?

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01:51:47,973 --> 01:51:48,772
Speaker 8: Sorry, push play?

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01:51:48,812 --> 01:51:50,173
Speaker 3: Push play? That's right, push play?

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01:51:50,572 --> 01:51:52,812
Speaker 2: One hundred percent degree that people need to get walking

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01:51:52,812 --> 01:51:56,093
Speaker 2: because not only is that it's you know, only is

2329
01:51:56,133 --> 01:51:58,013
Speaker 2: it good for your health, but it's great for your

2330
01:51:58,013 --> 01:52:00,892
Speaker 2: mental health. I think going for for a walk and

2331
01:52:00,933 --> 01:52:02,492
Speaker 2: looking around at the trees and getting out in the

2332
01:52:02,532 --> 01:52:04,452
Speaker 2: vitamin D getting out in the sun if you can.

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01:52:04,692 --> 01:52:05,892
Speaker 3: Is incredibly good for you.

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01:52:06,412 --> 01:52:09,053
Speaker 2: I just pushed back on it that it's akin to

2335
01:52:09,572 --> 01:52:12,333
Speaker 2: the physical exercise that you get from from running for

2336
01:52:12,372 --> 01:52:15,293
Speaker 2: half an hour is really all I'm saying, John, Oh,

2337
01:52:15,732 --> 01:52:16,053
Speaker 2: and I.

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01:52:16,093 --> 01:52:18,892
Speaker 8: Look at it's about so ultimately it's about well being, right,

2339
01:52:18,933 --> 01:52:22,612
Speaker 8: and you can measure that in biological data or just

2340
01:52:22,652 --> 01:52:26,293
Speaker 8: how you feel about yourself and going for walk. Going

2341
01:52:26,333 --> 01:52:27,812
Speaker 8: for a walk stalls a lot of problems.

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01:52:27,853 --> 01:52:31,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, one agree. Yeah, talking about TikTok trends, John, how

2343
01:52:31,412 --> 01:52:33,492
Speaker 3: do you feel about they call it rocking overseas? I

2344
01:52:33,532 --> 01:52:35,412
Speaker 3: don't know if you've heard about it, but it's putting

2345
01:52:35,412 --> 01:52:37,852
Speaker 3: on a weighted vesta or putting weight in a backpack

2346
01:52:37,893 --> 01:52:39,452
Speaker 3: and going for a walk. How do you feel about that?

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01:52:40,612 --> 01:52:42,412
Speaker 8: Well, I'm one of those middle aged guys you see

2348
01:52:42,452 --> 01:52:44,253
Speaker 8: walking around the suburbs with a pack on their back,

2349
01:52:44,333 --> 01:52:46,612
Speaker 8: So I guess I've picked my teeth.

2350
01:52:47,452 --> 01:52:50,012
Speaker 3: Do you ever use the walking poles? John?

2351
01:52:51,652 --> 01:52:53,012
Speaker 8: No, too much to manage.

2352
01:52:53,133 --> 01:52:56,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are the advantage in the pole? What do

2353
01:52:56,293 --> 01:52:58,012
Speaker 2: you think of What is the advantage of those poles?

2354
01:52:58,013 --> 01:53:00,052
Speaker 2: Because I see large groups walking around one neighborhood.

2355
01:53:01,732 --> 01:53:04,012
Speaker 8: Yeah, they say it eases the load on your hips

2356
01:53:04,013 --> 01:53:05,933
Speaker 8: and your knees and everything. But since I don't have

2357
01:53:06,253 --> 01:53:08,732
Speaker 8: that problem yet, I'm okay not doing that.

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01:53:08,933 --> 01:53:11,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Hey, thanks so much John, you

2359
01:53:11,213 --> 01:53:15,213
Speaker 2: and what a great, great initiative that was. That's resonated

2360
01:53:15,213 --> 01:53:17,013
Speaker 2: with people over over the years. So thank you for

2361
01:53:17,093 --> 01:53:17,652
Speaker 2: your work on that.

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01:53:18,893 --> 01:53:19,093
Speaker 6: Hey.

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01:53:19,173 --> 01:53:21,852
Speaker 3: Cheers, guys, Cheers John. I eight one hundred and eighty

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01:53:21,853 --> 01:53:23,452
Speaker 3: ten eights and number to call, just talk it. Thinking

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Speaker 3: about the walking poles, I can understand how that could

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Speaker 3: take some weight off the knees and off the hips

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Speaker 3: and the rest of it, but is that really worth

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's quite for someone like you, Matt. I

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Speaker 3: could see your speed walking with some walking poles. You

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Speaker 3: couldn't do that in your own neighborhood, could ye.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't judge anyone for what they do out

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Speaker 2: and about in the community because I go running in

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Speaker 2: compression socks, so I have no position to judge anywhere.

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Speaker 3: That is a good call, right, got to play some

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Speaker 3: messages and a few more calls to wrap this up.

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Speaker 1: It is nine to four the big stories, the big issues,

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Speaker 1: the big trends and everything in between. Matt Heath and

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Speaker 1: Tyler Adams Afternoons, Used Talks EDB, News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: There's six to four. Mike, you've been a trainer for

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Speaker 3: twenty seven years. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Thanks mate. I certainly have your.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts, your thoughts on walking versus running.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 17: They are totally different. Are called up because whatever the

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Speaker 17: text has said, do your homework, they are the same thing.

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Speaker 17: They are not the same thing, not even close. The

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Speaker 17: best things you know and that Japanese studies that come

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Speaker 17: mber the percentages. Was it seventy and then forty minutes

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Speaker 17: at a time? Yeah, yeah, I mean you know, ninety

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Speaker 17: nine percent of us are never going to be able

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Speaker 17: to measure measure percentages.

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Speaker 3: The best we can do.

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Speaker 17: The thing we can do is just when we think

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Speaker 17: about Zone two exercises or low steady state cardio. It's

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Speaker 17: been able to have a conversation with someone, not an

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Speaker 17: intricate conversation, but just a brief conversation. That's the pace

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Speaker 17: that you want to walk at, or if it's on

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Speaker 17: a at a gym, on a treadmill, that's the type

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Speaker 17: of thing. And the other thing for longevity with own

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Speaker 17: two cardio is strength training. After that, some high intensity

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Speaker 17: stuff is good, but the two the two markers we

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Speaker 17: want to look at is strength training and zone to cardio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so absolutely if people can't run, they should.

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Speaker 3: Walk though, right, absolutely they should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean walking walking is a fantastic thing to

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Speaker 2: do and people should do it. But it's not going

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Speaker 2: to have the same effect on you as running.

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Speaker 6: It is absolutely not. It's completely different.

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Speaker 17: The push play guy was right, you know, distance over time,

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Speaker 17: but you know, if you ran for twenty minutes and

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Speaker 17: then walk for twenty minutes. You're going to burn, going

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Speaker 17: to burn way more calories in the twenty minute run.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, there's no love it.

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Speaker 2: Sorry you have to let you go. But thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for that call, Mike. Thanks to all your

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Speaker 2: great news Zealands for listen the show today. Thanks so

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Speaker 2: But right now, Tyler, my good friend, tell me why

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Speaker 2: I'm playing this song from Kate Bush.

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Speaker 3: What chun running up that hell? Run not walk if

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Speaker 3: you want to get really for run up hills. That's stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: although that caused me a Haglin's deformity, It's another story.

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