1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks d B. 3 00:00:12,547 --> 00:00:14,747 Speaker 2: Speaking of cricket. The black Caps are on the brink 4 00:00:14,747 --> 00:00:18,027 Speaker 2: of more history as they prepare to face India in 5 00:00:18,067 --> 00:00:20,427 Speaker 2: the final of the ICC Men's T twenty World Cup 6 00:00:20,427 --> 00:00:22,907 Speaker 2: tomorrow morning two thirty New Zealand Time. One of the 7 00:00:22,987 --> 00:00:25,507 Speaker 2: key figures in New Zealand's run to the final or 8 00:00:25,587 --> 00:00:32,387 Speaker 2: Rounder Ruch and Revendra should be another for Revendra obvious 9 00:00:32,507 --> 00:00:37,507 Speaker 2: third fin Outen with the catch. The all round are 10 00:00:37,507 --> 00:00:38,787 Speaker 2: doing the job with the ball. 11 00:00:40,387 --> 00:00:40,787 Speaker 3: Gone up. 12 00:00:40,867 --> 00:00:44,747 Speaker 2: It's gone up, Mitchell getting in, getting in big hands 13 00:00:44,787 --> 00:00:48,747 Speaker 2: safely underneath that Revender has got four. Ruch and Revendra 14 00:00:48,907 --> 00:00:50,747 Speaker 2: joins us now out of India. Rutch and thanks for 15 00:00:50,787 --> 00:00:55,187 Speaker 2: your time. A World Cup final whatevery young cricketer dreams about. 16 00:00:55,187 --> 00:00:57,107 Speaker 2: I'm sure, how are you feeling in the lead up 17 00:00:57,147 --> 00:00:58,667 Speaker 2: to such a massive occasion. 18 00:00:59,387 --> 00:00:59,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 19 00:01:00,067 --> 00:01:03,307 Speaker 4: Obviously it's something your dreamail as a kid and to 20 00:01:03,307 --> 00:01:05,387 Speaker 4: see yourself play on this we have the opportunity to 21 00:01:05,427 --> 00:01:08,547 Speaker 4: play on the stages is pretty special. In playing India 22 00:01:08,627 --> 00:01:10,547 Speaker 4: in their home conditions in front of you know, one 23 00:01:10,587 --> 00:01:13,227 Speaker 4: hundred and twentye hundred and thirty thousand people in the stadium. 24 00:01:13,307 --> 00:01:15,667 Speaker 4: Is this is going to be truly incredible? Obviously that 25 00:01:15,707 --> 00:01:17,387 Speaker 4: the nerves and stuff are always there and lead up 26 00:01:17,387 --> 00:01:20,107 Speaker 4: for training and stuff, but it's it would. 27 00:01:19,947 --> 00:01:20,347 Speaker 3: Be good fun. 28 00:01:20,627 --> 00:01:24,507 Speaker 2: The semi final win over South Africa by nine wickets 29 00:01:24,587 --> 00:01:28,547 Speaker 2: utterly emphatic. What did that performance do for the confidence 30 00:01:28,627 --> 00:01:30,307 Speaker 2: of the team heading into the final? 31 00:01:31,267 --> 00:01:32,307 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's massive. 32 00:01:32,347 --> 00:01:34,347 Speaker 4: I mean, when you're in tournament cracket you sort of 33 00:01:34,347 --> 00:01:36,307 Speaker 4: get on a roll and end up playing, you know, 34 00:01:36,667 --> 00:01:38,267 Speaker 4: a bit of good cricket in each game. 35 00:01:38,267 --> 00:01:39,587 Speaker 3: You take it a little bit of confidence. 36 00:01:39,827 --> 00:01:41,707 Speaker 4: I think something that in fat and Fatic, The way 37 00:01:41,747 --> 00:01:44,507 Speaker 4: you siphon finn chase that down was incredible and I 38 00:01:44,507 --> 00:01:46,587 Speaker 4: think lead us in good seat for the final. 39 00:01:46,707 --> 00:01:49,627 Speaker 2: I just want to take you back to the batting innings. 40 00:01:49,707 --> 00:01:52,107 Speaker 2: You came in to join Finn Allen at one hundred 41 00:01:52,147 --> 00:01:55,707 Speaker 2: and seventeen for one. You're chasing one seventy. You get 42 00:01:55,707 --> 00:01:57,947 Speaker 2: through to one thirty seven for one after ten overs. 43 00:01:58,067 --> 00:02:00,867 Speaker 2: You take a single off the third ball of the 44 00:02:00,907 --> 00:02:04,147 Speaker 2: eleventh over that takes New Zealand to one thirty eight 45 00:02:04,187 --> 00:02:07,467 Speaker 2: for one. Finnellen then goes four or six one to 46 00:02:07,547 --> 00:02:10,707 Speaker 2: keep the strike four four sixty six four. You have 47 00:02:10,787 --> 00:02:14,387 Speaker 2: won by nine wickets with seven overs to spare. He's 48 00:02:14,427 --> 00:02:16,907 Speaker 2: gone from fifty eight to one hundred not out in 49 00:02:17,067 --> 00:02:21,027 Speaker 2: eleven balls. What was it like watching that innings from 50 00:02:21,067 --> 00:02:21,747 Speaker 2: the other end. 51 00:02:23,067 --> 00:02:25,707 Speaker 4: It's honestly under laired by I think you look at 52 00:02:25,707 --> 00:02:27,267 Speaker 4: our two openers and you see the way they go 53 00:02:27,347 --> 00:02:31,147 Speaker 4: about it. For me, it's honestly unfathomable. Sometimes the power 54 00:02:31,187 --> 00:02:34,067 Speaker 4: and the hatting, it's it's almost a different game, you know, 55 00:02:34,107 --> 00:02:36,147 Speaker 4: And it's awesome to have that power at the top 56 00:02:36,147 --> 00:02:36,587 Speaker 4: of the order. 57 00:02:36,867 --> 00:02:38,027 Speaker 3: I mean when I walked. 58 00:02:37,787 --> 00:02:39,587 Speaker 4: Out about I sort of had an inkling find was 59 00:02:39,627 --> 00:02:42,227 Speaker 4: going to get there because it was just the rhythm 60 00:02:42,267 --> 00:02:43,147 Speaker 4: and timing. 61 00:02:43,227 --> 00:02:45,347 Speaker 3: Everything he was showing was incredible. 62 00:02:45,427 --> 00:02:47,467 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was outstanding. I spoke to Finallen last week 63 00:02:47,467 --> 00:02:49,467 Speaker 2: on the radio. Actually he was frustrated, he said, by 64 00:02:49,507 --> 00:02:52,427 Speaker 2: getting twenties and thirties and not going on with him. 65 00:02:52,467 --> 00:02:55,347 Speaker 2: Did you sense a real desire in finale and to 66 00:02:55,787 --> 00:02:57,867 Speaker 2: convert a big one in such a big game. 67 00:02:59,827 --> 00:03:00,227 Speaker 3: I don't know. 68 00:03:00,267 --> 00:03:03,387 Speaker 4: It's always an interesting one in batting, and Pinaly notes 69 00:03:03,467 --> 00:03:06,107 Speaker 4: like it's sort of the harder you try to push 70 00:03:06,147 --> 00:03:07,987 Speaker 4: on after starts the worse it gets because all of 71 00:03:08,027 --> 00:03:10,387 Speaker 4: a sudden, you know, sort of milk a little bit 72 00:03:10,467 --> 00:03:11,467 Speaker 4: or not put the team first. 73 00:03:11,467 --> 00:03:14,627 Speaker 3: And I think that's Fins one of his biggest strengths. 74 00:03:14,627 --> 00:03:16,267 Speaker 4: He sort of always takes the game on in his 75 00:03:16,307 --> 00:03:21,267 Speaker 4: own way, and sometimes it comes off and like an 76 00:03:21,347 --> 00:03:23,467 Speaker 4: amazing not Ete hundred the other day. But even if 77 00:03:23,507 --> 00:03:24,947 Speaker 4: he gets twenty or thirty, he gets us off to 78 00:03:24,987 --> 00:03:28,107 Speaker 4: an amazing start. So either way, you know, whatever he's doing, 79 00:03:28,147 --> 00:03:29,947 Speaker 4: it's contributing to our team. 80 00:03:30,187 --> 00:03:33,187 Speaker 2: Your bowling roll right, and at this tournament's been fascinating 81 00:03:33,227 --> 00:03:36,427 Speaker 2: to watch your bowl eleven wickets, a terrific economy rate. 82 00:03:36,787 --> 00:03:39,387 Speaker 2: What's been the key to finding success with the ball 83 00:03:39,427 --> 00:03:40,307 Speaker 2: in these conditions? 84 00:03:41,667 --> 00:03:44,507 Speaker 3: I guess just trying to use my skill and ability. 85 00:03:44,547 --> 00:03:48,147 Speaker 4: I think obviously it's it's amazing to have sent next 86 00:03:48,147 --> 00:03:49,747 Speaker 4: to me and being able to chat to him about 87 00:03:49,747 --> 00:03:52,227 Speaker 4: a few things, but just trying to spin the ball 88 00:03:52,227 --> 00:03:54,667 Speaker 4: hard and keep it, you know, the life hard for 89 00:03:54,707 --> 00:03:56,987 Speaker 4: the bat as I guess for me being a vestment, 90 00:03:57,027 --> 00:04:00,147 Speaker 4: primarily it's it's it's quite handy because I get to 91 00:04:00,147 --> 00:04:01,387 Speaker 4: think like about it, you know what I mean, So 92 00:04:01,427 --> 00:04:03,467 Speaker 4: I can hopefully be a bit defensive when I feel 93 00:04:03,507 --> 00:04:05,227 Speaker 4: like they're coming or or keeping out of the arc 94 00:04:05,307 --> 00:04:07,627 Speaker 4: and stuff, So I want to stay one step ahead 95 00:04:07,667 --> 00:04:09,947 Speaker 4: of the game. Obviously, the wickeds in street ankle are 96 00:04:09,987 --> 00:04:12,267 Speaker 4: quite conducive for spin bowling, but you know, you get 97 00:04:12,307 --> 00:04:14,067 Speaker 4: back over to head to India and it's sitting there 98 00:04:14,067 --> 00:04:14,627 Speaker 4: a bit flatter. 99 00:04:14,707 --> 00:04:17,067 Speaker 3: So it's always always an adaptation piece in our game. 100 00:04:17,227 --> 00:04:21,387 Speaker 2: I've seen you've spoken about varying your pace, your seam, angle, lines, lengths, 101 00:04:21,427 --> 00:04:24,787 Speaker 2: that sort of thing to make things difficult for opposition. Baddest, 102 00:04:24,987 --> 00:04:27,427 Speaker 2: you're only bowling twenty four deliveries, max, aren't you in 103 00:04:27,467 --> 00:04:31,067 Speaker 2: any one game? How much planning actually goes into each 104 00:04:31,387 --> 00:04:32,947 Speaker 2: spell in a T twenty game? 105 00:04:34,427 --> 00:04:38,267 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's It's always interesting because I probably plan bit 106 00:04:38,267 --> 00:04:40,027 Speaker 4: more with about than the ball. I sort of not 107 00:04:40,107 --> 00:04:42,467 Speaker 4: necessarily it's rock up, but it's a bit more of 108 00:04:42,587 --> 00:04:46,507 Speaker 4: natural craft for me in terms of my preparation. I 109 00:04:46,547 --> 00:04:48,747 Speaker 4: guess we talk a lot as a spin group, though, 110 00:04:48,787 --> 00:04:51,387 Speaker 4: and we talk about each batter and what lines we 111 00:04:51,427 --> 00:04:53,267 Speaker 4: can bowl to them and how to shut them down 112 00:04:53,267 --> 00:04:56,267 Speaker 4: and fields, et cetera. So that that goes quite that 113 00:04:56,347 --> 00:04:58,107 Speaker 4: makes the difference in terms of what we planned for 114 00:04:59,587 --> 00:05:01,947 Speaker 4: and I mean a lot of the time, it's instinct, right, 115 00:05:02,067 --> 00:05:03,667 Speaker 4: you get a feeling you want to bowl this ball 116 00:05:03,747 --> 00:05:06,427 Speaker 4: more than not. You trust your gut and hopefully a 117 00:05:06,547 --> 00:05:09,587 Speaker 4: cute because it can get quite complicated out there. 118 00:05:09,787 --> 00:05:12,747 Speaker 2: So India's batting lineup stacked with power and a lot 119 00:05:12,787 --> 00:05:15,147 Speaker 2: of left handers as well. How tricky a challenge does 120 00:05:15,147 --> 00:05:17,747 Speaker 2: that present for you as a left arm spinner. 121 00:05:18,587 --> 00:05:20,947 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I mean the matchup's not really quite there 122 00:05:21,107 --> 00:05:24,187 Speaker 4: left umps spin to left handers. In today's T twenty game, 123 00:05:24,267 --> 00:05:26,267 Speaker 4: it's you're always going to be a little bit under 124 00:05:26,267 --> 00:05:27,587 Speaker 4: the punt because they're gonna want to take you down. 125 00:05:27,627 --> 00:05:30,107 Speaker 4: But I think that's that's quite an exciting opportunity. You know, 126 00:05:30,187 --> 00:05:34,187 Speaker 4: you potentially a chance for a wicket, and you know, 127 00:05:34,267 --> 00:05:36,107 Speaker 4: you feel like you're in the game. And obviously it's 128 00:05:36,427 --> 00:05:37,827 Speaker 4: you know you can get it for a few bombs, 129 00:05:37,827 --> 00:05:40,787 Speaker 4: but that's that's part of the game. But I think 130 00:05:40,827 --> 00:05:43,987 Speaker 4: for for us, it's just understanding. 131 00:05:43,507 --> 00:05:45,507 Speaker 3: Who you're bowling to, what your role is at that time. 132 00:05:45,787 --> 00:05:47,587 Speaker 4: Obviously it's nice thing sat in at the other end 133 00:05:47,587 --> 00:05:49,707 Speaker 4: because I don't score too much off him, so they 134 00:05:49,787 --> 00:05:51,827 Speaker 4: always try to take me, take me down a little 135 00:05:51,827 --> 00:05:55,107 Speaker 4: bit but yeah, the matchup game would be huge. And 136 00:05:55,307 --> 00:05:57,507 Speaker 4: the cool thing is we've got spin that spins able 137 00:05:57,587 --> 00:05:59,307 Speaker 4: both ways and in terms of a couple off spinners 138 00:05:59,347 --> 00:06:01,867 Speaker 4: and a couple of left umps office, so we've got 139 00:06:01,867 --> 00:06:03,547 Speaker 4: basis covered, which is quite us indeed. 140 00:06:03,707 --> 00:06:08,627 Speaker 2: So a final in India against India at this massive stadium, 141 00:06:08,667 --> 00:06:11,387 Speaker 2: a huge home crowd, a lot of noise, how do 142 00:06:11,467 --> 00:06:13,827 Speaker 2: you block that outright and focus on the job at 143 00:06:13,827 --> 00:06:15,107 Speaker 2: hand when you're out there in the middle. 144 00:06:15,947 --> 00:06:17,547 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always an interesting one. I guess. 145 00:06:17,547 --> 00:06:19,787 Speaker 4: The whole thing about blocking it like it's going to 146 00:06:19,867 --> 00:06:23,107 Speaker 4: be there, I think first of all, accepting almost the 147 00:06:23,107 --> 00:06:25,907 Speaker 4: pressure and what it's going to feel like, because you 148 00:06:25,947 --> 00:06:28,747 Speaker 4: know you're going up against the billion plus people who 149 00:06:28,787 --> 00:06:31,427 Speaker 4: are obviously going to be behind India and the noise 150 00:06:31,747 --> 00:06:35,827 Speaker 4: at that ground, the met about is crazy. So for us, 151 00:06:35,827 --> 00:06:38,307 Speaker 4: it's just keeping it simple, I think, and being as 152 00:06:38,307 --> 00:06:41,147 Speaker 4: present as possible and focusing on the next play, you know, 153 00:06:41,187 --> 00:06:44,387 Speaker 4: the next ball, whatever is that, whatever that importance is. 154 00:06:44,427 --> 00:06:46,747 Speaker 4: Because in finals it's so easy to get hit yourself, 155 00:06:46,747 --> 00:06:49,387 Speaker 4: it's so easy to look at the winning and losing 156 00:06:49,387 --> 00:06:51,227 Speaker 4: of it. But there's a reason why we got there, 157 00:06:51,227 --> 00:06:53,347 Speaker 4: and I think that's by you know, playing each moment. 158 00:06:54,187 --> 00:06:56,427 Speaker 4: So and I think there's no real way to completely 159 00:06:56,467 --> 00:06:58,187 Speaker 4: block out the crowd. I mean they're always going to 160 00:06:58,187 --> 00:07:00,467 Speaker 4: be there, but we're not bad. I don't really hear it. 161 00:07:00,547 --> 00:07:02,947 Speaker 4: So hopefully I combat for some time. 162 00:07:03,427 --> 00:07:06,347 Speaker 2: So the Black Caps, I mean close and global tournament 163 00:07:06,587 --> 00:07:09,267 Speaker 2: a number of times in recent years. What would it 164 00:07:09,347 --> 00:07:12,347 Speaker 2: mean to this group to finally win a World Cup. 165 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:17,867 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been awesome, you know, the Black Capps team 166 00:07:17,867 --> 00:07:19,907 Speaker 4: over the last you know, ten or so years has 167 00:07:19,947 --> 00:07:22,787 Speaker 4: been amazing and we've we've made a lot of world 168 00:07:22,787 --> 00:07:25,587 Speaker 4: events and we've had a fierce year of heartbreak and 169 00:07:25,587 --> 00:07:29,707 Speaker 4: the time being as well. So look, it's obviously if 170 00:07:29,747 --> 00:07:32,107 Speaker 4: we got opportunity, it'll be as it'll be fantastic. But 171 00:07:32,467 --> 00:07:34,787 Speaker 4: either way, I'm proud of the group and how we've 172 00:07:34,867 --> 00:07:38,627 Speaker 4: evolved and developed as a T twenty team. 173 00:07:37,867 --> 00:07:39,067 Speaker 3: And super proud of the results. 174 00:07:39,067 --> 00:07:42,747 Speaker 4: And hopefully we're inspiring everyone back home because that's really 175 00:07:42,787 --> 00:07:43,627 Speaker 4: what's important here. 176 00:07:43,707 --> 00:07:46,267 Speaker 2: You're certainly doing that. So just to finish, when the 177 00:07:46,307 --> 00:07:49,307 Speaker 2: anthems are all done and you look around that stadium 178 00:07:49,307 --> 00:07:51,147 Speaker 2: before the first ball, whether you're out there in the 179 00:07:51,147 --> 00:07:53,387 Speaker 2: field or you're sitting there with your pads on watching 180 00:07:53,947 --> 00:07:56,827 Speaker 2: Finaleen and Tim Seifer get ready to face the first ball. 181 00:07:57,027 --> 00:07:59,507 Speaker 2: What do you want the mindset of the black Caps 182 00:07:59,867 --> 00:08:01,107 Speaker 2: to be in that moment? 183 00:08:02,907 --> 00:08:03,787 Speaker 3: I guess come. 184 00:08:05,107 --> 00:08:07,147 Speaker 4: The thing is with these games there is always a 185 00:08:07,187 --> 00:08:09,307 Speaker 4: lot of distractions, a lot of chaos around, right, so 186 00:08:09,587 --> 00:08:12,947 Speaker 4: I can be calm and shell and understand what the 187 00:08:13,707 --> 00:08:14,547 Speaker 4: task at hand is. 188 00:08:14,667 --> 00:08:15,787 Speaker 3: I think that will go a long way. 189 00:08:15,827 --> 00:08:19,267 Speaker 4: But also playing our way, but also not you know, 190 00:08:19,347 --> 00:08:22,627 Speaker 4: fearing the big moments and taking them on because it's 191 00:08:22,707 --> 00:08:25,147 Speaker 4: T twenty credit. You know, it's if you take a 192 00:08:25,147 --> 00:08:27,467 Speaker 4: step back you find out, you know, you're one or 193 00:08:27,467 --> 00:08:28,907 Speaker 4: two balls of that, you end up losing the game. 194 00:08:28,907 --> 00:08:32,147 Speaker 4: It's such fine margins, so let's take the game on 195 00:08:32,307 --> 00:08:33,627 Speaker 4: and do it in that way. 196 00:08:33,987 --> 00:08:37,147 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you, Ruch, and this won't surprise you. 197 00:08:37,187 --> 00:08:39,667 Speaker 2: Many thousands of people are setting their alarms for just 198 00:08:39,707 --> 00:08:41,867 Speaker 2: before two thirty tomorrow morning to get up and watch 199 00:08:41,907 --> 00:08:44,947 Speaker 2: your take on India in this T twenty final. Very 200 00:08:44,987 --> 00:08:47,547 Speaker 2: exciting times back here, very exciting for you as well. 201 00:08:47,587 --> 00:08:50,347 Speaker 2: Congrats on your part in getting New Zealand to the final. 202 00:08:50,387 --> 00:08:52,187 Speaker 2: All the best and thanks as always. 203 00:08:51,947 --> 00:08:53,907 Speaker 3: For the chat that stress chess party. Appreciate it. 204 00:08:53,947 --> 00:08:55,867 Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you joining us rightch and thanks indeed, 205 00:08:55,907 --> 00:08:58,067 Speaker 2: Rutch and Ravendra there ahead of the T twenty World 206 00:08:58,147 --> 00:09:00,827 Speaker 2: Cup final. You look at his numbers in this T 207 00:09:00,827 --> 00:09:03,947 Speaker 2: twenty World Cup, eleven wickets at an average of just 208 00:09:03,987 --> 00:09:07,627 Speaker 2: ten point six four and an economy of six point 209 00:09:07,627 --> 00:09:10,387 Speaker 2: eighty eight. Look anything under seven runs and over in 210 00:09:10,467 --> 00:09:12,667 Speaker 2: T twenty cricket. We know how good that is. 211 00:09:13,707 --> 00:09:16,867 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 212 00:09:16,987 --> 00:09:20,267 Speaker 1: to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow 213 00:09:20,307 --> 00:09:21,907 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio