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Speaker 2: Hello are you Grant New Zealanders And welcome to Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Full Show Podcast number two one four for Friday,

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Speaker 2: the third of October twenty twenty five. Fantastic show today.

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Speaker 2: We forgot you didn't do things flying off trailers. Oh

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Speaker 2: I know, well we'll bring The whole point of the

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Speaker 2: centro was to point out the topics we don't get to.

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Speaker 2: But CPR went off with some really touching stories and

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Speaker 2: amazing stories about people being saved and saving other people.

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Speaker 2: So I think you'll enjoy that part of the podcast.

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Speaker 3: And just randomly, it's Shoctober, so listen to find out

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Speaker 3: what Shocktober is. We had no idea. It was just

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Speaker 3: a beautiful moment. Yeah, beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: Download the good Sam app in the aed Locator app

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Speaker 2: and learn how to do CPR and save people. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: be a good citizen. I don't know how to do

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Speaker 2: it yet, so me neither. I'll be to get onto it.

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt He's and Taylor Adams Afternoons News.

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Speaker 3: Talk said me, very good afternoon to you. Welcome into

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Speaker 3: Friday show, into the week for many of us. Hope

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Speaker 3: you're having a good day and a feeling good yiddo Matt.

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Speaker 2: Again a Tyler get a great New Zealander review listening.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what I'm very excited about this weekend. I'm

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Speaker 2: pumped up and some of my two teenage sons we

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Speaker 2: go along to the hot World's monster trucks.

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Speaker 3: Are you lucky, lucky man.

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Speaker 2: Bring air protection. It's going to be loud, it says

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Speaker 2: on the ticket.

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Speaker 3: Oh mate, I'm just watching a video now because I

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Speaker 3: knew it was happening, but I hadn't seen what is

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Speaker 3: what it is going to potentially be like? It looks amazing,

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Speaker 3: looks incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what do you describe what you're looking at

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Speaker 2: there with the monster trucks.

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Speaker 3: So these beautiful hot wheel style monster trucks and the

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Speaker 3: to play around with actual hot wheels. There's fire, the

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Speaker 3: fire works. It just looks like he of a show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So you've got you've got like big versions of

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Speaker 2: the cool hot wheels, you know, dinkies that you would

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Speaker 2: have had when you were a kid, like the big Foot,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, jumping over cars is motorbikes. Man, you're going to

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Speaker 3: have a hell of the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet, I bet well, if there are stal

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Speaker 2: It's sold out on Saturday, but I think the I

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Speaker 2: think there's stool tickets for Sunday ye at Eden Park. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it's gonna be it's gonna be a it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a good time. You lucky lucky And it's been

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Speaker 2: So if you've if you win long nine two nine two,

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear what you thought of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right on to today's show after three o'clock. You

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Speaker 3: would have seen the story a little bit earlier. This week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean New Zealanders. We love to move things

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to those stories. After three o'clock. After two

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Speaker 2: much effort you should be put into being capable of

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Speaker 3: That's going to be good after two o'clock. But right now,

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about emails and Wayne Brown. So

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Speaker 3: he's made headlines after responding to with a blunt, if

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Speaker 3: So the group had sent over one thy five hundred

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Speaker 3: him to sign their ratepayer protection pledge that's aimed at

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Speaker 3: keeping Auckland rates from skyrocketing. The mayor's office dismiss the

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Speaker 3: campaign as a PR stunt, saying the pledge is unrealistic

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Speaker 3: and meaningless, but clearly the mayor had had enough after

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Speaker 3: being bombarded with fifteen hundred emails.

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Speaker 2: Are they fifteen hundred bespoke emails or are they just

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Speaker 2: the same email fifteen hundred times?

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Speaker 3: It must be copy and paste. Must be they've just

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Speaker 3: sent it out to all their members and said here's

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Speaker 2: Because comb because if they're fifteen hundred different emails, then

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Speaker 2: I would say, But does this make you think less

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Speaker 2: or more of the mayor? Does someone who sent fifteen

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Speaker 2: f off? That's an interesting question. But you know, how

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Speaker 2: would you describe it? The robes, the chains of the

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Speaker 3: It's got some manna behind it.

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Speaker 2: Wayne Brown represents the citizens of Auckland City and the

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that behaving in a way that that honors the

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Speaker 2: his position? Is the right, honorable mayor? What do you

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Speaker 2: call it? The the what's the how do you refer

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Speaker 2: to a mire against your worship? Your worship?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Would you worship of a title? Your worship.

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Speaker 2: Was he wearing the robe in the chain when he

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Speaker 2: texting through saying it makes them think more of them.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, Wayne Brown rocks. I love him even more.

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Speaker 2: That's from Sally the Boomer. Okay, Kat says he's got

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Speaker 2: my vote. But this textas says frankly, Wayne Brown should

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Speaker 2: f off as he's a prat right.

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Speaker 3: That's great, So I'd love to hear your thoughts on

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Speaker 3: an email response? Or does it make you respect him more?

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Speaker 3: That he's a pretty blunt guy and clearly he had

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Speaker 3: had enough of being spammed by this particular lobby group.

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Speaker 3: So really keen to get your views on this one.

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Speaker 2: All right right through. It shows that Wayne Brown is

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Speaker 3: Get on the phones twelve past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be quarter past one. So Auckland here, Wayne Brown.

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Speaker 3: He let fire with a pretty blunt email response to

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Speaker 3: supporters of the Auckland Ratepayers Alliance. They bombarded him with

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Speaker 3: over fifteen hundred emails urging him to sign their ratepayer

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Speaker 3: protection pledge. But he sends a pretty simple response that's

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Speaker 3: been leaked. It just said if off.

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Speaker 2: The SEXTA says rates are up over seven percent this

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Speaker 2: That is the problem. The poor ratepayers who have to

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Speaker 2: is ignore them. Well, you've got to say, though, Wayne

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Speaker 2: has kept rates in Auckland down compared to a number

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Speaker 2: of other councils. Yep, so you know, ideally they don't

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Speaker 2: go up more than a flashing. But he's Some would

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Speaker 3: He's definitely done a lot of cutting.

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Speaker 2: That's sure, it's seven percent, it's not fifteen percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but what do you say, I eight hundred is

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Speaker 3: that unbefitting or of Amir or do you like his style?

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Speaker 2: Downtown clown brown, egotistical duckads is Stanley? There you go,

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Speaker 2: so nice Ryan, Yes for mere more cut to chase

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Speaker 2: the better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. Keep them coming in love freets.

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Speaker 3: How are you pretty good?

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Speaker 5: Matte? Hello?

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Speaker 2: You very good, Thanks for calling in on this Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yours please? Are you there? Yep? There you go, yep.

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Speaker 6: I think the boarding percentage is really low, Like, I

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Speaker 6: think less than fifteen percent of the people return their ballots,

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Speaker 6: which is really now. And I think the comments like

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Speaker 6: terms of kind of more people coming in together and

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Speaker 6: boarding because I live in talking and like not many

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Speaker 6: people boarding, and even the neighbors and all, like, no

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Speaker 6: one knows that the boarding people are just lying on

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Speaker 6: the freasures or like the tables. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 6: we still have two weeks. Let's see what happens. But

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Speaker 6: I mean comments like these do spice of the contestfully.

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Speaker 6: In the next two weeks, we may have more party

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Speaker 6: comments from all the sides of the spectrum. The warding

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting that's an interesting take on it. I

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Speaker 2: hadn't thought of that so this has brought attention to

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Speaker 2: the whole you know, local body elections just a little

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Speaker 2: bit of spice because people do complain, they say it's

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Speaker 2: too boring. I can't get interested. But if you've got

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Speaker 2: the sitting mare firing off swear words at people, at

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Speaker 2: least it focuses the attention on on the election that's

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Speaker 2: coming up. Have you are you across the candidates and

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Speaker 2: planning to vote?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I've actually vought it out and I made my

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Speaker 6: family bought yesterday as well as like many friends and

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Speaker 6: mates as well. And I mean local government is really important,

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Speaker 6: like right from the morning when we plush our tourlet,

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Speaker 6: like the border, you know, like everything just relates to

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Speaker 6: kind of the local gunment. I think the main attention

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Speaker 6: of the media is more on the central government and

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Speaker 6: all the all the news articles and stuff, but I

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Speaker 6: mean local government has kind of more important, right right

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Speaker 6: when we step out of our home into the street

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Speaker 6: and all the little things we.

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Speaker 5: Do every day.

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Speaker 3: So overall, love Prey, Have you got any problem with

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's an interesting point as well. Two very

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Speaker 2: as a mayor can privately respond to someone emailing him

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Speaker 2: as a capacity of as mayor. But he's not said

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Speaker 2: something about the candidate that you didn't know, and then

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Speaker 2: maybe it would be more of a scandal. But how

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Speaker 2: many people out there are surprised that that Wayne Brown

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Speaker 3: It's on brand, It's very on brand. It's authentic. You

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Speaker 3: can't deny that. What do you say though, Oh eight

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Speaker 7: Oh hi guys, love your shower as always. But for me,

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Speaker 7: I'm not surprised he said that. I'd quite like to

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Speaker 7: say that to him because you've put our rates up

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Speaker 7: thirteen point eight and walk with us. We don't have

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's not seven point eight, it's a total lie, right,

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Speaker 7: and that's why I do not and it's absolutely true.

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Speaker 7: I would not ever vote to him. So I've voted,

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Speaker 7: but certainly not to him because he's stayed down to

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Speaker 2: Can you explain to me, Von why it's it's more

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, no, we're called Auckland now right up to Welsford.

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Speaker 8: It used to be Rodney, and I don't know what

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Speaker 2: It does people, people and people and so do you

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Speaker 2: you know because you were the Rodney district of course

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Speaker 2: do you not even call it that? You don't even

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Speaker 2: call it that anymore. It's not even known as the

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Speaker 2: Rodney district.

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Speaker 7: No, we're known as Land right up to wels.

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Speaker 2: But that's too it's too far and it's too different.

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Speaker 7: It goes out to helens for Life thinks sure, it's too.

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Speaker 2: Really, I agree with you, it's too different. It's too

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Speaker 3: I mean that's the failing of amalgamation, isn't it. When

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Speaker 3: the super City was was drafted, I think people could

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Speaker 3: see the potential pros. But you're speaking to a massive

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Speaker 7: And unfortunately we're retired, but we have so many people

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Speaker 7: it works on their own home and that, but thirteen

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Speaker 7: point eight, No, it is not seven point eight for

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Speaker 7: us up there. And I could tender a copy of

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Speaker 7: two Rates Bult and you could see it for yourself. Right,

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Speaker 7: it is transit really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for your call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: This Texas says. I don't think profanity is any place

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Speaker 2: for the person who is hoping to return to leading

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Speaker 2: our city. I won't allow my grandsons to use language

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Speaker 2: like that, and they are in their twenties. Wow, good one.

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Speaker 2: Youre jan So why can he not use English to

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Speaker 2: support his views? That is not unacceptable. That is unacceptable

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fair point, and a lot of people

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Speaker 3: will feel that way. But again, going back to to

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Speaker 3: Wayne Brown, clearly that is the way that he speaks

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Speaker 3: and a lot of his life. I imagine he's a

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Speaker 3: pretty pretty blunt guy. So anything else would be seen

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Speaker 3: as fake or inauthentic. Right, So the very fact that

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe we should try and see we

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Speaker 2: To Wayne Brown, I'm looking at the text machine here,

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Speaker 2: and look, this isn't a scientific poll. You know, the

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Speaker 2: margin vera is probably one hundred percent. But most people

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Speaker 2: texting through here are good on them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good, good on.

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Speaker 2: Him, not you know, not even caring about the issue,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And what do you say, though, oh, eight

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Speaker 3: say good on him? He's got to be truthful.

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Speaker 2: This text to John says, my rates increases over the

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Speaker 2: past five years have been twenty nine percent, twelve percent,

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Speaker 2: twenty nine percent, fifteen percent, napier rural, Thanks Kirsten Wise,

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Speaker 2: just to fund your sodding expensive fantasy projects. And I

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Speaker 2: tell you what, John Siding is a good word.

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Speaker 3: That is a great word. Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't even talking about this if Wayne Brown had

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Speaker 2: just said side off.

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Speaker 3: Keep those texts coming through as well. Nine till it's

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Speaker 3: twenty three past one.

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Speaker 1: The headline and the hard questions. It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 9: Let's get some insight into how much of a mess

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Speaker 9: the Mary Party in it? A flabbel former co leaders

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Speaker 9: with us Erud karpa key. I don't know him, do you.

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Speaker 9: He seems like a very affable, likable sort of bloke,

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Speaker 9: very articulate.

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Speaker 5: That's a good summary of them.

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Speaker 9: Okay, So is he trouble or is he going the

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Speaker 9: something fundamentally wrong with the Marory Party.

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Speaker 5: In the statement of these natives, politicians need to stop

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Speaker 5: being activists and activists need to stop being politicians, which

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Speaker 5: I think is.

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Speaker 4: A fair call.

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Speaker 9: Is the dictatorship thing. The thing is that your observation

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Speaker 9: that they got a problem run there.

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Speaker 5: I sort of haven't been involved too much with the

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Speaker 9: Back Monday from six am, The Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 3: Z B afternoon. It is twenty six past one, so

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Speaker 3: we're talking about the language Auckland Mayor Wayne Brown used

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Speaker 3: to respond to a flood of emails from the Auckland

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Speaker 3: Ratepayers Alliance. It was pretty blunt and pretty short. It

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Speaker 3: just said f off. After he was bombarded with fifteen

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Speaker 3: hundred of those emails.

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Speaker 2: Hey on another issue, and I'll get through this quickly

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Speaker 2: because we've got full lines and lots of people texting through.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the chat. But it's the

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Speaker 2: way some people advertise to get your vote. It's quite odd.

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Speaker 2: You've got to say there's one particular person in Auckland

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Speaker 2: City and maybe there's people like this in your country.

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Speaker 2: There's obviously spent a whole lot of money on posters,

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Speaker 2: but it's just his face and a hat and different colors,

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Speaker 2: with no particular agenda that I can work out, no

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Speaker 3: So it's just his name and a hat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have you not seen these posters?

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: Nine two nine two. If you know who the candidate is,

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Speaker 2: I forget his name. But everywhere I go there's just

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Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of this guy in a hat running

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Speaker 2: for council. He's running on a Fedora platform.

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Speaker 3: I could support that. I love a Fedora.

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Speaker 2: Jason, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, how are you going there?

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Speaker 2: Very good? Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I think the wider issue, if you look at not

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Speaker 10: just the comment, the comments pretty much expected from Wayne Brown,

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Speaker 10: it's how he addresses a lot of council stuff and

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Speaker 10: meetings in general public some time. So that's not really

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Speaker 10: the big issue. You look at the wider issue here.

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Speaker 10: This is about leadership and that's not how you build

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Speaker 10: a team, and it's certainly not how you address the public.

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Speaker 10: And there's been a number of community groups that have

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Speaker 10: a member of the Rate Players Alive, but the fact

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Speaker 11: And I think.

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Speaker 10: Anyone that thinks that the great thing he's telling them

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Speaker 10: to a f off is basically giving themselves the middle finger.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that fifteen hundred emails on the same

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Speaker 2: issue was too many and it might have invited some

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Speaker 2: kind of strong response. Jason, Well, I'm in.

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Speaker 10: The speedway group that's been through a similar thing. Now,

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Speaker 10: we haven't taken that approach, but I can tell you

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Speaker 10: via email. So whilst I don't agree with fifteen hundred emails,

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Speaker 10: and I'm certainly on the page we of there, it's

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Speaker 10: a little bit could be seen as a guerrilla approach

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Speaker 10: for lack of better term, but I can understand why

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Speaker 10: the frustration and perhaps why that tack has been taken because,

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Speaker 10: like I said myself, with our speedway group, we just

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Speaker 10: had every communication possible ignored. So that's just another bit

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Speaker 10: of an insight as to what's actually going on.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so Jason with with with the wants and

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Speaker 2: from that, from the from the council to you know,

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Speaker 10: Absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 12: Pretty much.

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Speaker 10: What was done was it was a private deal between

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Speaker 10: lot of miss them for around that, and I guess

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Speaker 10: we're digressing of it now, but that councilors, you know, councilors.

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Speaker 10: The councilors were misled by non elected officials, by withheld

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Speaker 10: information and incorrect information. And when you talk to other

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Speaker 10: common and counselor this is going on a lot where

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Speaker 10: they're copying some of the public flats for this as well,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's for you what you said, Jason, that

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Speaker 3: you know, he represents the people of Auckland and nobody

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Speaker 3: wants their rates to go up in ridiculous margins. But

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Speaker 3: at a point in the past during his tenure that

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Speaker 3: he doesn't want rates to go up either. But time

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Speaker 3: and time again, I've always heard local body elections, whether

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Speaker 3: can keep rates under inflation, and it never has. I

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Speaker 3: So to me, what he's basically saying is it's unreasonable

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Speaker 3: I can't say that I can do that if I'm

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Speaker 10: Well, I agree with your viewpoint. It's unrealistic to keep

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Speaker 11: As you're aware.

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Speaker 10: But the fact is that I can tellue from our

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Speaker 10: is pretty much dummed up by his response to a

438
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Speaker 10: community group, right, that just creates the vision. And that's

439
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Speaker 10: what happened with us, is the fact that he will

440
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Speaker 10: not even even talk to us. And we're not the

441
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Speaker 10: only group because there's a number of them around around

442
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Speaker 10: town that this has happened to. So it all comes

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Speaker 10: down to attitude. And also a lot of people probably

444
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Speaker 10: aren't aware. But when you when you start looking into

445
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Speaker 10: into what his role actually entails. He's supposed to engage

446
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Speaker 10: with the community in the ais with them, and like

447
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Speaker 10: I said, I take it a step further. That response

448
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Speaker 10: pretty much stums up what is going on with a

449
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Speaker 10: lot of community groups which are not getting the airplay

450
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Speaker 10: that they should through the media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for you call Jason. I appreciate it.

452
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Speaker 2: The six says good afternoon, snowflake, so I say good

453
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Speaker 2: on them. And frankly, if my inbox was slammed with

454
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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred emails from a lobby group, the f off

455
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Speaker 2: wouldn't would have been followed up with the paragraph of

456
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Speaker 2: far worse expletitives than that, whether I was Mayor of

457
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Speaker 2: Auckland or the bloody King of England.

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Speaker 3: Good on your Dave. That's ambitious, right, Oh, one hundred

459
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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. How

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Speaker 3: do you feel about the language Mayor Wayne Brown used

461
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Speaker 3: when responding to the Auckland rate Payers Alliance. It is

462
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Speaker 3: twenty eight to two.

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Speaker 2: News talks.

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Speaker 13: There'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

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Speaker 13: with a blue bubble. The government's unveiled plans to boost

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Speaker 13: our local defense industry. It's launching a four year strategy

467
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Speaker 13: to invest up to three hunt million dollars in the

468
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Speaker 13: advanced technology sector to produce military requirements. Our Prime minister

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Speaker 13: says he doesn't want overseas challenges to make their way

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Speaker 13: into our society. After a deadly synagogue attack in England's Manchester,

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Speaker 13: Chris Luckson says our religious communities show a lot of

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Speaker 13: respect for each other. Time is running out for Hummas

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Speaker 13: to agree to the US backed peace plan for Gaza.

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Speaker 13: On Wednesday, President Donald Trump gave Hummas three to four

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Speaker 13: days to accept the deal or face further action from Israel.

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Speaker 13: about the safety of the car seats at selling the

478
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Speaker 13: comments commissioners issued as stop now letter to the retailer

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Speaker 13: who has stores in Auckland and christ Church. A man

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Speaker 13: made glowworm cave is a step closer to reality. In Queenstown,

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Speaker 13: Scott Robertson reveals reasons for all black Selections surprises in

482
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Speaker 13: Perth Rematch. You can read more at Enzen Herald Premium.

483
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Speaker 13: Back to Matteth than Tyler Adam.

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Speaker 3: Seeing you very much railing. So does Wayne Brown's blunt

485
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Speaker 3: email response off off to a lobby group make him

486
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Speaker 3: honest or does it show a lack of professionalism? One

487
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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighties number to.

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Speaker 2: Coour So many texts coming through, Hey guys, I support him,

489
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter who you are. Fifteen hundred emails as harassment

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Speaker 2: and they got what they deserve. Next, stop the police.

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Speaker 2: That's from Matt Night. This text of however, says, fifteen

492
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Speaker 2: hundred emails from one person is spam. Fifteen hundred emails

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Speaker 2: from fifteen hundred people as democracy and action. If offers

494
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Speaker 2: an unacceptable response, chairs Philip, lads, Lads, Lads, his worship,

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Speaker 2: Wayne is clever. This is a classic marketing tactic called

496
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Speaker 2: rage engagement, more commonly known as rage baiting. It's a

497
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Speaker 2: tactic where creators post content specifically designed to provoke anger, frustration,

498
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Speaker 2: or outrage and viewers to increase likes, comments, and shares.

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Speaker 2: This type of content leverages strong negative emotions to boost

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Speaker 2: visibility and engagement, as people are more likely to interact

501
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Speaker 2: with content that elicits a strong emotional response. John expensive

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Speaker 2: rates Wellington.

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Speaker 3: We got my ten and that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't John who really not John, It wasn't

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Speaker 2: Wayne who released it. That was just it looks like

506
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Speaker 2: Wayne just responded on his iPhone at eight forty five

507
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Speaker 2: am in the morning.

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Speaker 3: If off Yeah, and then it was a lobby group.

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Speaker 3: I decided to publish it.

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Speaker 2: I can totally see what you're saying, John, and that's

511
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Speaker 2: definitely a tactic that has been used before. But I

512
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Speaker 2: think you're crediting his worship the mayor worth potentially more

513
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Speaker 2: strategical now, so on this occasion then he had. I

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Speaker 2: don't think there was. I don't think there's a strategy

515
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Speaker 2: in that.

516
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Speaker 3: Therefore, no, No, it looks like it.

517
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Speaker 2: I think it was Wayne Brown just being Wayne Brown. Allison,

518
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 14: Oh it's has been so interesting, and I'm thinking, oh

520
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Speaker 14: my god, Evon has nothing on twoteen and a half

521
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Speaker 14: percent pay increase. Mine was over fifty, but most of

522
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Speaker 14: over fifty IO and a lot of people that I

523
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Speaker 14: know it was between seventeen eighty percent increase. You Allison

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Speaker 14: Franklin out of skirts and walkland a rule just like yvone,

525
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Speaker 14: except she'son Rodney. We had less than three weeks notice

526
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Speaker 14: that we were even gonna have this before we got

527
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Speaker 14: our rates demands on the pensioner that it takes one

528
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Speaker 14: hundred dollars out of my pension every fortnight just to

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Speaker 14: pay for my rates now without insurance and mortgages. And

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Speaker 14: those fifteen hundred people are probably people like me, and

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Speaker 14: it's he is. It is just out of control, and

532
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Speaker 14: I too, like Eyvon would love to pay to him.

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Speaker 14: It's off because and his attitude. He's not listening to

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Speaker 14: the people. And those fifteen hundreds to.

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Speaker 2: Bear, Allison, they're fifteen hundred emails from one group, not

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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred emails.

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Speaker 14: Yes, well, and I dare say that they representing most

538
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Speaker 14: people like me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean it's pretty tough. I get

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Speaker 2: it out, Alison. It's pretty tough because you know, when

541
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Speaker 2: their numbers bandied around, the seven percent numbers bandied about,

542
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Speaker 2: that's an average across the city. And that doesn't help

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Speaker 2: people like you, does it?

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Speaker 14: No, nothing's helped. We're all in shock. We have no services.

545
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Speaker 14: We have no foot paths, no lights, we have no water,

546
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Speaker 14: we have no sewage, we have nothing. And we've got charged.

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Speaker 6: I got charged.

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Speaker 2: Really happened and hard to deal with, Alison.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to deal with.

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Speaker 14: But financially it's crippling.

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Speaker 3: Just on that, Allison. And I don't think anyone can

552
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Speaker 3: agree that fifty percent is a good thing to have

553
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Speaker 3: your rates increased by. But who is your local counselor

554
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Speaker 3: or someone that can lobby for you, guys, because most

555
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Speaker 3: fair minded New Zealanders would say that's that's unfair. That's

556
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Speaker 3: not right.

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Speaker 14: Oh, yes we did. And Andy Baker is our representative

558
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Speaker 14: at the moment, he's standing again. But in typical Auckland

559
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Speaker 14: Council form, they've decided just to ignore us and push

560
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Speaker 14: ahead anyway. We had no, we have no show and

561
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Speaker 14: we're not going to get It's never going to go

562
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Speaker 14: any lower now, is it. We're paying what we're having

563
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Speaker 14: to pay now. So no, they're not listening to us.

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Speaker 14: Aukland Council just don't. We shouldn't have even been part

565
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Speaker 14: of the super City.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, is there anyway? Because I always I

567
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Speaker 2: think that I was saying it if I before. It

568
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Speaker 2: just seems crazy that the parts that are included in

569
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Speaker 2: the super City. It's too it's too big, and it

570
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Speaker 2: covers places with such different needs. Yeah, so your needs

571
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Speaker 2: where you are in in where you are in Franklin

572
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Speaker 2: is absolutely entirely different. Where from what I what I

573
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Speaker 2: need living right here in central Auckland.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you succeed from the union or something else,

575
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Speaker 3: and you know, start a week campaign to just remove

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Speaker 3: yourself from Auckland.

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Speaker 14: Apparently when Richard Rodney Hyde just you know, I just

578
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Speaker 14: decided that they would do this. It was supposed to

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Speaker 14: be on a trial basis, right, and as far as

580
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Speaker 14: and as far as I'm aware, it has never been.

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Speaker 14: It was never made the permanent thing, but it just

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Speaker 14: kind of evolved into that because it was only supposed

583
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Speaker 14: to be just a trial, and the trial would have

584
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Speaker 14: failed miserably because this is a rural town. It's getting

585
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Speaker 14: more provincial now, but it is still a rural town

586
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Speaker 14: like Rodney and all that way, and the services we get,

587
00:28:28,413 --> 00:28:34,413
Speaker 14: or rather don't get, are vastly diffront to what people

588
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Speaker 14: in the city get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and thank you so much for you call Allison.

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Speaker 2: My rates increased in Howick was? My rates increase in

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Speaker 2: Howick was seventeen percent. Reason being because Council has chosen

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Speaker 2: to continue with a low UAGC uniform Annual General Charge

593
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Speaker 2: which we all this rate is set around forty percent

594
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Speaker 2: of the general rate, but legal limited is thirty percent.

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Speaker 2: This results in disproportionate number of rate payers paying well

596
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Speaker 2: over the average rate and getting disproportionate above the rates

597
00:29:04,733 --> 00:29:08,813
Speaker 2: increased due to an increased in property value. Has agreed

598
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Speaker 2: to look at fixing this next year to more equitably

599
00:29:11,653 --> 00:29:15,213
Speaker 2: spread the rates burden. Hope that helps explain the increases

600
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Speaker 2: for some that's from Maureen.

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Speaker 3: That does help. Very interesting.

602
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Speaker 2: But I think it's crazy that rates are based on

603
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Speaker 2: your property failure. Yeah, that's absolutely ridiculous. Someone they just

604
00:29:25,053 --> 00:29:26,573
Speaker 2: come up with these things and we and then we

605
00:29:26,973 --> 00:29:30,213
Speaker 2: allow them. Yeah, it's like, if you're using the same services,

606
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Speaker 2: then you should pay the same amount for the same

607
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Speaker 2: area of land.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it's just crazy.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen So they tied to house fellues. Yeah, yeah, I

610
00:29:38,933 --> 00:29:40,693
Speaker 2: mean because if you've got if you've got a more

611
00:29:41,053 --> 00:29:42,893
Speaker 2: expensive house, are you using more stuff?

612
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Speaker 3: Of course in the community, yeah you might be using yeah,

613
00:29:45,533 --> 00:29:47,253
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. But what do you say, oh, eight

614
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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty And the language used by

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Speaker 3: Mayor Brown, I f off to this lobby group acceptable

616
00:29:52,933 --> 00:29:56,093
Speaker 3: honest or is it unbefitting for someone in his role?

617
00:29:56,733 --> 00:30:00,333
Speaker 2: The mayor said the mayor Simon says, Simon says, nothing

618
00:30:00,373 --> 00:30:01,493
Speaker 2: wrong with Wayne's language.

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Speaker 3: Harden up, you lot, god On your Simon, have a chat.

620
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Speaker 2: With the lads.

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Speaker 1: On eighty That heathens as afternoons used talk s'd be afternoons.

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Speaker 3: So we are talking about Wayne Brown's blunt response to

623
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Speaker 3: the Auckland Ratepayers Alliance. It was simply if you sent

624
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Speaker 3: from his iPhone. Is that fear play or does it

625
00:30:20,573 --> 00:30:22,533
Speaker 3: go a but far for someone in a mirror position?

626
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Speaker 2: Ben, welcome to the show. Your thoughts on the IF

627
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Speaker 2: off from Wayne Brown?

628
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Speaker 15: I probably would have sent an email back directly into

629
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Speaker 15: the nearest mental health facility. This fifteen hundred emails is

630
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Speaker 15: just ridiculous. Come on, they're trying to provoke a response,

631
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Speaker 15: and they got one like, yeah, I'm sorry, fift you

632
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Speaker 15: buy up, you know, pull someone's email up. For all

633
00:30:46,853 --> 00:30:49,373
Speaker 15: these emails, someone's going to spend time to go through

634
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Speaker 15: a delete them all. You know, there's probably not him himself.

635
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Speaker 15: It's probably a pretty secret, sariable whatever. But fifteen hundred, Now,

636
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Speaker 15: I think they knew they were going to get a response,

637
00:31:00,813 --> 00:31:01,813
Speaker 15: and that's what they banked on.

638
00:31:01,853 --> 00:31:02,493
Speaker 5: Then they got one.

639
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben, if I sent fifteen hundred text to an

640
00:31:05,693 --> 00:31:08,973
Speaker 2: ex girlfriend, I mentioned I'd been getting a knock on

641
00:31:08,973 --> 00:31:10,733
Speaker 2: the door from here, the police.

642
00:31:10,413 --> 00:31:11,773
Speaker 3: The drag you to a courthouse, I.

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Speaker 15: Think, yeah, yeah, no, no doubt you would.

644
00:31:15,053 --> 00:31:17,373
Speaker 2: But well, what he said to Jason, who were talking

645
00:31:17,413 --> 00:31:19,853
Speaker 2: before on the phone, and he was saying that people

646
00:31:19,853 --> 00:31:22,533
Speaker 2: are getting frustrated with the lack of response from the

647
00:31:22,613 --> 00:31:26,373
Speaker 2: Auckland Council in general. So do you think that fifteen

648
00:31:26,453 --> 00:31:29,853
Speaker 2: hundred emails might if you don't get any response to

649
00:31:29,893 --> 00:31:32,853
Speaker 2: any of the emails, you know, like you just keep

650
00:31:32,853 --> 00:31:34,453
Speaker 2: going and going and going because you're frustrated.

651
00:31:36,973 --> 00:31:39,573
Speaker 15: Well, you know there's a time, there are other options,

652
00:31:39,653 --> 00:31:43,013
Speaker 15: you know, just keep bombarding someone because it becomes harassment.

653
00:31:43,533 --> 00:31:46,853
Speaker 15: That's exactly what it becomes. And oh, okay, I'll probably

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Speaker 15: want to use the thing which he used, But I

655
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Speaker 15: don't blame him, like i'd vote to the guy like

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Speaker 15: he's you know, he's kept the rates down to an average,

657
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Speaker 15: you know, of a good percentage point compared to a

658
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Speaker 15: lot of other councils. He does what he says he's.

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Speaker 7: Going to do.

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Speaker 15: And you see a lot of people, you know, went

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Speaker 15: against the sale of all the Auckland Airport. Well, if

662
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Speaker 15: he had got that sale through, a lot of people's

663
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Speaker 15: rates would have been kept down. And it's the same.

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Speaker 15: It seems like the same people that are complaining about

665
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Speaker 15: their rates going out are the same people that supported

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Speaker 15: the shares not getting herself so as their own fault. Really,

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Speaker 15: you know, he gave you an option to keep rates

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Speaker 15: slow and he didn't take it so as yourn fault.

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Speaker 2: What part of Auckland do you live in, if you

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Speaker 2: don't mind me asking, Ben, west Aalkland And so is

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00:32:36,653 --> 00:32:43,773
Speaker 2: your rates gone up and sort of ligned with the average? Yeah, yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: I suppose being it's a leadership style, right, And some

673
00:32:46,733 --> 00:32:49,133
Speaker 3: would argue that someone who's a mayor or elected to

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Speaker 3: a council should be diplomatic and listen to criticism and

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Speaker 3: take it on board and listen to the people that

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00:32:54,853 --> 00:32:56,853
Speaker 3: voted them in. But clearly that's not Wayne style. I

677
00:32:56,853 --> 00:32:58,973
Speaker 3: don't think he likes any sort of criticism and anybody

678
00:32:58,973 --> 00:33:00,813
Speaker 3: that comes at him and says you're doing a bad job,

679
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Speaker 3: then they probably get an f off. Do you prefer

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Speaker 3: that style of leadership or you think that's what's needed

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Speaker 3: in council.

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Speaker 15: I'm sick of the spin and you know, people making

683
00:33:11,013 --> 00:33:14,533
Speaker 15: promises they can't keep and I want someone that's straight

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Speaker 15: up and tell you how it is. And that's what

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00:33:16,773 --> 00:33:19,133
Speaker 15: you get from Brown and I like that style.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for your call. Ben. The sticks at

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Speaker 2: Russell raises an interesting point. It's ridiculous that a household

688
00:33:25,533 --> 00:33:28,213
Speaker 2: occupied by one person pays the same rates as the

689
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Speaker 2: house next door occupied by six people. So should rates

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Speaker 2: just be based on a per person and how much

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00:33:34,893 --> 00:33:35,293
Speaker 2: you use?

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Speaker 3: It makes more logical sense. There is a massive issue

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Speaker 3: with how rates that are calculated across regions, no doubt

694
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Speaker 3: about it.

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00:33:43,053 --> 00:33:45,333
Speaker 2: It should be completely So you get weighed and they

696
00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:46,613
Speaker 2: work out how often you're using the.

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Speaker 3: Bathroom, A bunch of things right right into the detail.

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Speaker 2: How much pressure you're putting on the sewage system?

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Speaker 3: Get it. Do I get a discount for a B day?

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Speaker 3: If anything, I'd be charged more?

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Speaker 2: Will I Do you charge someone that's seven foot more

702
00:33:59,533 --> 00:34:01,653
Speaker 2: than someone that's five to one? Absolutely you do for

703
00:34:01,653 --> 00:34:03,653
Speaker 2: how much space they take in the city. But no,

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00:34:03,733 --> 00:34:06,493
Speaker 2: I get the point that Russell's trying to make. So

705
00:34:06,533 --> 00:34:08,573
Speaker 2: we say, it's about the house and then and it's

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Speaker 2: the value of the house. It's not the size of

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Speaker 2: the house or the resources that the house take up. Yeah,

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00:34:14,293 --> 00:34:17,013
Speaker 2: it's the value of the house. That's one of these

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00:34:17,053 --> 00:34:19,453
Speaker 2: things that we just take as a standard. Oh, that's

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Speaker 2: what we do. But it's actually an incredibly radical idea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Remember we had that chat about that council

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Speaker 3: I think it was Naper council and they were giving

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Speaker 3: a discount to those who didn't put their WILLI bin

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Speaker 3: out as much as other people. I think that's the

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Speaker 3: kind of direction we need to be going in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, boys, Brown did sell the airport, she is, but

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00:34:39,453 --> 00:34:40,693
Speaker 2: not as many as he wanted.

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Speaker 3: To, right, Yeah, I think that was the case he

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Speaker 3: wanted to.

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Speaker 2: We'll look into that. Oh one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: eighties to number to call, it's ten to two. Back

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Speaker 2: in a mow, Wayne was having a Friday wine, says

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Speaker 2: this text. And no, I thought, I don't know about

724
00:34:53,493 --> 00:34:55,652
Speaker 2: Wayne Brown's drinking habits, but it was eight forty five am,

725
00:34:55,733 --> 00:34:57,213
Speaker 2: so I think you can rule out that it was.

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Speaker 3: It's quite an aspersion being past there.

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Speaker 1: Matteath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred

728
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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams. Afternoons

729
00:35:10,053 --> 00:35:10,573
Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about Wayne Brown saying if off in

731
00:35:13,293 --> 00:35:16,013
Speaker 3: an email response to being bombarded by the Auckland rate

732
00:35:16,093 --> 00:35:20,293
Speaker 3: Payers Alliance now TEX mentioned the airport's shares. So originally

733
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Speaker 3: mere Brown wanted to privatize the full eighteen percent share

734
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Speaker 3: that the Auckland Council holds of Auckland Airport, but he

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00:35:27,813 --> 00:35:29,732
Speaker 3: did it, and the text has said that he did

736
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Speaker 3: sell the shares. You're right, he had to compromise, so

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00:35:31,733 --> 00:35:34,413
Speaker 3: eight percent of the council's eighteen percent stake in the

738
00:35:34,453 --> 00:35:36,933
Speaker 3: airport was sold off and that was voted through. So

739
00:35:37,053 --> 00:35:39,333
Speaker 3: he wanted the full hog and had to compromise. But

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Speaker 3: thank you very much for that text.

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Speaker 2: Ken from Pooka Coe, Welcome to the show. How are

742
00:35:43,453 --> 00:35:45,053
Speaker 2: you today?

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Speaker 5: Good? Thank you.

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Speaker 16: I think that I don't think it's appropriate for a

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Speaker 16: man in his position to I don't be brassed off

746
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Speaker 16: for having all those emails, but still doesn't give him

747
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Speaker 16: a reason to answer back all that a man in

748
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Speaker 16: his position, and I think I think that everything needs

749
00:36:04,813 --> 00:36:08,133
Speaker 16: to be more transparent when you're thinking the money that's

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Speaker 16: Auckland Council get now compared to ten years ago, with

751
00:36:13,893 --> 00:36:17,133
Speaker 16: all the new developments, has been properties that would have

752
00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:21,773
Speaker 16: been paying a small amount of rates now playing colossal

753
00:36:21,853 --> 00:36:24,573
Speaker 16: rates because it's been so built up. What are they're

754
00:36:24,573 --> 00:36:26,533
Speaker 16: doing with all the money? I mean, or can transport

755
00:36:26,653 --> 00:36:30,413
Speaker 16: CEO six hundred and eighty six thousand and then with

756
00:36:30,613 --> 00:36:33,652
Speaker 16: bonuses get seven hundred and thirteen thousand. We need to

757
00:36:33,693 --> 00:36:37,293
Speaker 16: know what colories these guys are on. It's crazy one

758
00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:39,732
Speaker 16: of too much money is wasted by these councils. Needs

759
00:36:39,733 --> 00:36:42,573
Speaker 16: to be more transparent, need to print out of all

760
00:36:42,613 --> 00:36:45,253
Speaker 16: the money they received, all the Sudaris who get paid,

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Speaker 16: the consultants and everything. So we're going to see where

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Speaker 16: all this money is going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken, back to your first point. It is interesting

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Speaker 2: because you're supposed to address the mayor as his worship

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Speaker 2: and then someone that you that you addresses his worship

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Speaker 2: then comes out with an f off. So you bet

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00:37:01,613 --> 00:37:03,772
Speaker 2: you would be fine with a blunt response though, because

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Speaker 2: this is a private correspondence that has been released by

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Speaker 2: the side that sent the email on the first place,

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Speaker 2: they got the e f off back, so it's not

771
00:37:10,493 --> 00:37:12,893
Speaker 2: quite the same as a mirror and his chains and

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00:37:13,013 --> 00:37:15,573
Speaker 2: robe and public saying it if you know what No,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But if he just said.

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Speaker 2: No response at all or leave me alone, would they

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00:37:24,333 --> 00:37:25,133
Speaker 2: be all right for you king?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it would be. I mean, don't I don't believe

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00:37:29,493 --> 00:37:31,573
Speaker 16: since he's been mayor, I don't believe he's haven't even

779
00:37:31,613 --> 00:37:32,573
Speaker 16: been out the Book of Coey.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know.

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00:37:35,293 --> 00:37:37,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't confirm or deny that either, King if

782
00:37:37,613 --> 00:37:38,773
Speaker 3: you see him out there, let us know.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's all way. While people say he's up seven

784
00:37:45,093 --> 00:37:49,013
Speaker 16: point eight this year and another seven point eight next year,

785
00:37:49,373 --> 00:37:52,533
Speaker 16: but then that makes it fifteen point six percent next

786
00:37:52,613 --> 00:37:55,253
Speaker 16: year because of the extra map from this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, there's no doubt that the

788
00:37:59,573 --> 00:38:04,093
Speaker 2: rates go up higher than inflation, but you could argue

789
00:38:04,133 --> 00:38:06,053
Speaker 2: that on average the rates in Auckland have gone up

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00:38:06,213 --> 00:38:09,013
Speaker 2: less than they have and with some other councils across

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Speaker 2: the country.

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Speaker 3: Very true. Yeah, good discussion, Thank you very much. So

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00:38:13,373 --> 00:38:16,732
Speaker 3: many texts have come through over that one. I don't

794
00:38:16,773 --> 00:38:18,853
Speaker 3: know it started off saying good on Wayne, but I

795
00:38:18,933 --> 00:38:22,253
Speaker 3: think it moves sort of closer to fifty fifty maybe

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Speaker 3: sixty forty in favor of saying it's Okatie say if off.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of transitioned into everyone saying that the whole

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Speaker 2: way they do rates as a scam.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole other discussion that I'm willing to have

801
00:38:32,293 --> 00:38:32,573
Speaker 2: one day.

802
00:38:32,653 --> 00:38:34,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll bring that back next week. Maybe good discussion

803
00:38:35,013 --> 00:38:36,853
Speaker 3: coming up after two o'clock, we want to talk about

804
00:38:36,933 --> 00:38:40,413
Speaker 3: CPR and First Aid after a child luckily was saved

805
00:38:41,053 --> 00:38:43,613
Speaker 3: when they had an incident at Bay Waves, Wavepool and

806
00:38:43,733 --> 00:38:46,133
Speaker 3: Mount mong and Nui. Do you know first age? Do

807
00:38:46,133 --> 00:38:47,973
Speaker 3: you know what to do if you're faced in that situation?

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a good discussion. And also we're

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Speaker 3: celebrating all afternoon taylors Worth's new album being released at

810
00:38:56,653 --> 00:38:59,013
Speaker 3: five pm. A lot of excitement around the office. So

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Speaker 3: the song to the News this is called ready for

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00:39:02,973 --> 00:39:06,453
Speaker 3: It from her album Reputation. She followed up nineteen eighty

813
00:39:06,533 --> 00:39:09,453
Speaker 3: nine with Reputation in twenty seventeen. The album was initially

814
00:39:09,533 --> 00:39:12,813
Speaker 3: polarizing and didn't chart as well, but in recent years

815
00:39:13,053 --> 00:39:16,292
Speaker 3: has become an absolute fan favorite. It was the only

816
00:39:16,373 --> 00:39:19,172
Speaker 3: album released under the Big Machine label that hasn't been

817
00:39:19,253 --> 00:39:21,253
Speaker 3: recorded by Taylor. It still went to number one in

818
00:39:21,293 --> 00:39:24,853
Speaker 3: New Zealand and went six times platinum. It's still pretty good.

819
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Speaker 3: So taking us to the News is the album's second single,

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Speaker 3: Ready for It. We'll see your back year very shortly.

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Speaker 3: The things we doing.

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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

823
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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Cheer.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into the program. I hope you're having a

827
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Speaker 3: fantastic Friday.

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Speaker 5: We are.

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Speaker 3: You're listening in the country. This is going to be

830
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Speaker 3: an interesting chat.

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Speaker 2: Before you have that interesting chat which I'm a part of,

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Speaker 2: and we're all a part of eight hundred. You got

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Speaker 2: something for us at eighty ten eighty no, no, I

834
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Speaker 2: just popped up on my screen. And I'm a big

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Speaker 2: fan of the actor Matthew mcconne Yeah. I like his books.

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Speaker 2: I like his book. He's got a new book out

837
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Speaker 2: of poetry actually, and he's just a great man and

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Speaker 2: great that guy, very intelligent, beautiful accent. All right, all right,

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Speaker 2: all right, But he's got a new movie out. That's

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Speaker 2: I just put the notification and for when the movie

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00:40:24,253 --> 00:40:29,133
Speaker 2: came out, and it's called The Last Bus or the

842
00:40:29,973 --> 00:40:31,453
Speaker 2: what's it called the Lost Bus?

843
00:40:31,613 --> 00:40:32,133
Speaker 3: The Lost Bus.

844
00:40:32,253 --> 00:40:33,893
Speaker 2: So it's just come out on Apple just then, obviously

845
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Speaker 2: because the location. I asked for a notification when it

846
00:40:36,133 --> 00:40:39,493
Speaker 2: came out, and it's it's a movie about him being

847
00:40:39,533 --> 00:40:44,053
Speaker 2: a bus driver getting some students out of a raging wildfire.

848
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Speaker 2: Oh man, man, inspired by a true story.

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Speaker 3: Jesus looks good. You can't go wrong with Matthew mcconneey

850
00:40:50,973 --> 00:40:53,133
Speaker 3: these days, I think you put me onto it. But

851
00:40:53,213 --> 00:40:55,093
Speaker 3: it was he was doing a podcast, but of a

852
00:40:55,213 --> 00:40:58,453
Speaker 3: long form interview. Man, he's a smart guy. And his philosophy,

853
00:40:58,613 --> 00:41:00,413
Speaker 3: even if you don't agree with it, just hearing him

854
00:41:00,613 --> 00:41:02,493
Speaker 3: asher that philosophy beautiful thing.

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00:41:03,013 --> 00:41:05,813
Speaker 2: Yeah it is, and he's got that his accent makes it.

856
00:41:05,893 --> 00:41:11,653
Speaker 2: Everything he says, even if it's not meaningful, sounds so profound.

857
00:41:11,813 --> 00:41:12,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, he dragged you in.

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00:41:13,093 --> 00:41:17,013
Speaker 2: He's got that drawl. It's fantastic. Has Boot Green Lights

859
00:41:17,373 --> 00:41:19,653
Speaker 2: is really good. But anyway, Yeah, it just just popped

860
00:41:19,733 --> 00:41:22,293
Speaker 2: up on my phone notification, so I thought i'd mentioned

861
00:41:22,333 --> 00:41:23,893
Speaker 2: at the Lost Bars. I've been waiting for this movie.

862
00:41:23,933 --> 00:41:25,212
Speaker 2: It looks bloody bloody good.

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00:41:25,373 --> 00:41:27,813
Speaker 3: Excited for that, right, this discussion is going to be

864
00:41:27,853 --> 00:41:30,973
Speaker 3: a good one. So some pretty terrifying news. On Monday afternoon,

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Speaker 3: a child was pulled unconscious from Bay Waves wave pool

866
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Speaker 3: in the Mount This is New Zealand's largest wave pool,

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Speaker 3: very popular, but lifeguards thankfully and nearby Paul goers. They

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Speaker 3: swiftly administered CPR on this child, reviving them before they

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Speaker 3: were transported to totong A hospital. They were initially in

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Speaker 3: a critical condition, but remarkably, the child has since recovered

871
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Speaker 3: and returned time. These people saved this child's life, no

872
00:41:53,053 --> 00:41:53,493
Speaker 3: doubt about it.

873
00:41:53,733 --> 00:41:55,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, But could they have saved the child's life if

874
00:41:55,933 --> 00:41:59,253
Speaker 2: it wasn't for the trained individual that was on hand

875
00:41:59,333 --> 00:42:01,613
Speaker 2: for them to deliver the child too, the life saver

876
00:42:01,813 --> 00:42:03,573
Speaker 2: Because when I read this story, as I was saying

877
00:42:03,613 --> 00:42:06,133
Speaker 2: to you before, it struck me that if I was

878
00:42:06,173 --> 00:42:08,533
Speaker 2: in that situation and there was no one there that

879
00:42:08,773 --> 00:42:12,453
Speaker 2: could perform CPR, yeah, that child would have been in

880
00:42:12,493 --> 00:42:14,333
Speaker 2: a terrible situation with me. Because I don't know how

881
00:42:14,373 --> 00:42:16,253
Speaker 2: to do it. I'm pretty sure I taught it at

882
00:42:16,333 --> 00:42:18,172
Speaker 2: high school. That was a long time ago. I've got

883
00:42:18,493 --> 00:42:21,613
Speaker 2: no idea. So it just got me thinking, what do

884
00:42:21,693 --> 00:42:23,933
Speaker 2: you need to know to be a great New Zealand

885
00:42:24,053 --> 00:42:27,172
Speaker 2: citizen out there who's prepared to step up and save

886
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:29,653
Speaker 2: a life if it needs to be and capable of

887
00:42:29,853 --> 00:42:32,973
Speaker 2: doing it? Just sort of I was thinking about it.

888
00:42:33,213 --> 00:42:36,333
Speaker 2: Isn't that a basic that we should all take the

889
00:42:36,413 --> 00:42:38,773
Speaker 2: time out of our lives to get our head around?

890
00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:39,212
Speaker 3: Yeah?

891
00:42:39,813 --> 00:42:42,133
Speaker 2: I mean more than that. You know how you heal

892
00:42:42,173 --> 00:42:44,933
Speaker 2: a wound, you know, not just not just bringing somewhere

893
00:42:44,973 --> 00:42:47,253
Speaker 2: back to life. Because Tyler, if you came across someone

894
00:42:47,253 --> 00:42:48,853
Speaker 2: that had been electrocuted, would you know what to do?

895
00:42:49,013 --> 00:42:49,053
Speaker 5: No?

896
00:42:49,493 --> 00:42:53,133
Speaker 3: No, not a clue and having that confidence to be

897
00:42:53,213 --> 00:42:55,893
Speaker 3: able to take action. That's a huge part of it,

898
00:42:55,933 --> 00:42:57,773
Speaker 3: isn't it. But I was just thinking what you've got

899
00:42:57,813 --> 00:42:59,373
Speaker 3: in your car as well, And for some reason I

900
00:42:59,453 --> 00:43:02,933
Speaker 3: was looking at torn case and you know you see

901
00:43:02,973 --> 00:43:04,893
Speaker 3: in the movies where you just whip off a T

902
00:43:05,053 --> 00:43:06,853
Speaker 3: shirt and wrap it into some sort of torn case.

903
00:43:06,893 --> 00:43:08,933
Speaker 3: Apparently that's not going to do it. Need the actual

904
00:43:09,013 --> 00:43:13,333
Speaker 3: proper big shebang that was gonna cut off the circulation

905
00:43:13,493 --> 00:43:15,973
Speaker 3: to potentially save somebody's life. So this article was saying

906
00:43:16,013 --> 00:43:18,973
Speaker 3: we should all have proper medical tornics in our car

907
00:43:19,333 --> 00:43:21,253
Speaker 3: in case you're driving along and you see an accident.

908
00:43:21,333 --> 00:43:24,973
Speaker 2: So do you put that above the cape? I'd be

909
00:43:24,973 --> 00:43:27,013
Speaker 2: wrapping it right around the cart and not doing anything.

910
00:43:26,853 --> 00:43:28,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's kind of got some sort of little

911
00:43:28,693 --> 00:43:31,212
Speaker 3: stick on it that you have to really twist sight

912
00:43:31,413 --> 00:43:33,692
Speaker 3: and in the end that could potentially save someone's life.

913
00:43:33,733 --> 00:43:35,172
Speaker 3: But how many of us would know how to properly

914
00:43:35,253 --> 00:43:35,893
Speaker 3: use a tornic cake?

915
00:43:35,973 --> 00:43:36,333
Speaker 5: I don't.

916
00:43:36,733 --> 00:43:39,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just what to do if you came across

917
00:43:39,293 --> 00:43:41,453
Speaker 2: a car accident, right, you know, how you deal with

918
00:43:41,533 --> 00:43:45,293
Speaker 2: that situation, even how you deal with a fire. There

919
00:43:45,333 --> 00:43:47,093
Speaker 2: should be things you could go as far as to

920
00:43:47,173 --> 00:43:50,333
Speaker 2: say that you should be able to fight just in

921
00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:53,053
Speaker 2: case you need to protect someone. Yeah, you know, do

922
00:43:53,253 --> 00:43:57,453
Speaker 2: we need to muscle up and bone up on all

923
00:43:57,533 --> 00:44:02,173
Speaker 2: the things, some basic things to be there as a

924
00:44:02,413 --> 00:44:06,813
Speaker 2: mini emergency responder if the needs if needs be and

925
00:44:06,853 --> 00:44:09,013
Speaker 2: there's no one there, because if you take situation like

926
00:44:09,013 --> 00:44:11,773
Speaker 2: an ambulance. I came across the guy that was unconscious

927
00:44:11,773 --> 00:44:14,333
Speaker 2: on the street a few months ago, straight on the show. Yeah,

928
00:44:14,573 --> 00:44:17,093
Speaker 2: the ambulance, and bless them, they do a good job,

929
00:44:17,173 --> 00:44:18,812
Speaker 2: but there must have been a lot going on because

930
00:44:18,813 --> 00:44:20,853
Speaker 2: the ambulance took forty five minutes to get there. Yeah,

931
00:44:21,013 --> 00:44:23,333
Speaker 2: and we're just with this guy who's completely unconscious on

932
00:44:23,373 --> 00:44:26,053
Speaker 2: the street. We didn't really know what to do. And

933
00:44:26,413 --> 00:44:28,413
Speaker 2: you're probably thinking, Matt, you came across that and you

934
00:44:28,493 --> 00:44:30,573
Speaker 2: still haven't taken the time to learn any of this.

935
00:44:30,813 --> 00:44:32,373
Speaker 2: So I'm a bad person.

936
00:44:32,453 --> 00:44:34,973
Speaker 3: But are you? Yeah? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

937
00:44:35,133 --> 00:44:36,493
Speaker 3: is the number to call. Would you know what to

938
00:44:36,533 --> 00:44:39,693
Speaker 3: do when facing that situation? Or have you been saved?

939
00:44:39,733 --> 00:44:42,652
Speaker 3: Have you got yourself into trouble in someone a member

940
00:44:42,653 --> 00:44:45,413
Speaker 3: of the public or other came through and sorted you out.

941
00:44:45,453 --> 00:44:47,493
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you. It is twelve past two.

942
00:44:48,093 --> 00:44:52,573
Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon talk Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

943
00:44:52,733 --> 00:44:55,893
Speaker 1: afternoons call Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty youth

944
00:44:56,013 --> 00:44:56,773
Speaker 1: Talk said.

945
00:44:56,613 --> 00:44:56,693
Speaker 13: Be.

946
00:44:58,733 --> 00:45:02,453
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. We are talking about CPR, first aid

947
00:45:02,533 --> 00:45:05,172
Speaker 3: and other skills you may need to save somebody who

948
00:45:05,253 --> 00:45:06,613
Speaker 3: gets into a dangerous situation.

949
00:45:06,893 --> 00:45:09,453
Speaker 2: This is interesting and this isn't what we're talking about.

950
00:45:09,573 --> 00:45:10,333
Speaker 5: So what is it?

951
00:45:10,413 --> 00:45:13,413
Speaker 2: It's it's the third day of this month, gents, great subject.

952
00:45:13,533 --> 00:45:17,013
Speaker 2: It is Saint John's Shoctober month. There are three one

953
00:45:17,093 --> 00:45:20,613
Speaker 2: hour courses on CPR and using an AED check it

954
00:45:20,693 --> 00:45:23,253
Speaker 2: out on Google. There will be a course near you.

955
00:45:23,373 --> 00:45:25,772
Speaker 2: And yes, I said free for one hour of your life,

956
00:45:25,853 --> 00:45:29,613
Speaker 2: you could save a life. Cheers chiwd good See Wow,

957
00:45:29,693 --> 00:45:31,573
Speaker 2: the wind is the world, isn't synk isn't that?

958
00:45:31,613 --> 00:45:32,253
Speaker 3: It certainly is.

959
00:45:32,373 --> 00:45:33,333
Speaker 2: We live in a simulation.

960
00:45:33,773 --> 00:45:35,173
Speaker 3: Oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

961
00:45:35,333 --> 00:45:40,333
Speaker 3: number to call Cody. Someone did CPR and you yeah.

962
00:45:40,493 --> 00:45:44,213
Speaker 17: So About ten years ago, I was over in Australia

963
00:45:44,693 --> 00:45:48,413
Speaker 17: and I was swimming in an apartment pool and having

964
00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:50,093
Speaker 17: a competition with my friend who was the only other

965
00:45:50,133 --> 00:45:52,013
Speaker 17: one of the pool and we were trying to see

966
00:45:52,013 --> 00:45:53,933
Speaker 17: who could do the most insider water as you do

967
00:45:53,973 --> 00:45:57,293
Speaker 17: when you're young, dumb and stupid, and I had shelleywood

968
00:45:57,293 --> 00:45:59,692
Speaker 17: a blackout, so I passed out the pool and then

969
00:45:59,733 --> 00:46:01,693
Speaker 17: he drank me out and did CPR. So it was

970
00:46:01,693 --> 00:46:07,212
Speaker 17: about four minutes so I was not breathing full So wow, wow, Yeah,

971
00:46:07,253 --> 00:46:09,333
Speaker 17: lucky he knew what he was doing. And I've got

972
00:46:09,373 --> 00:46:11,173
Speaker 17: it all on CCTV, so I've actually been able to

973
00:46:11,173 --> 00:46:11,493
Speaker 17: watch it.

974
00:46:11,493 --> 00:46:13,373
Speaker 4: Which is pretty pretty wow.

975
00:46:13,533 --> 00:46:16,213
Speaker 2: So you've you've that must be So what's it like

976
00:46:16,333 --> 00:46:19,133
Speaker 2: to look a picture of you completely prone and on

977
00:46:19,253 --> 00:46:21,133
Speaker 2: your way out and being brought back. That must be

978
00:46:21,253 --> 00:46:23,733
Speaker 2: the most incredible footage to watch. I can imagine.

979
00:46:23,973 --> 00:46:26,173
Speaker 17: Oh, it's pretty scary. Like I didn't watch it for

980
00:46:26,213 --> 00:46:28,293
Speaker 17: a while, but yeah, I was in hospital for a

981
00:46:28,373 --> 00:46:31,413
Speaker 17: few days after that as well. They were worried I'd

982
00:46:31,413 --> 00:46:33,093
Speaker 17: done some damage to my brain, but I wasn't. You're

983
00:46:33,173 --> 00:46:34,973
Speaker 17: right in the end, I did feel very stupid for

984
00:46:35,013 --> 00:46:36,933
Speaker 17: a few days though, Like I just I wasn't. I

985
00:46:36,933 --> 00:46:39,413
Speaker 17: couldn't think or anything like that. But I'm just lucky

986
00:46:39,453 --> 00:46:41,813
Speaker 17: he knew CPR and I do. I do first day

987
00:46:41,853 --> 00:46:43,653
Speaker 17: training at work as well, so I'm pretty comfortable I

988
00:46:43,693 --> 00:46:46,973
Speaker 17: could do CPR on someone. I think I could, but

989
00:46:47,173 --> 00:46:49,453
Speaker 17: it was scary, Like I mean, I know, I don't

990
00:46:49,453 --> 00:46:51,053
Speaker 17: believe in any of it after I stuff, but it

991
00:46:51,133 --> 00:46:53,973
Speaker 17: felt like the period it was unconscious about like a

992
00:46:54,053 --> 00:46:56,413
Speaker 17: long time, like I sort of recall it, like I

993
00:46:56,493 --> 00:46:58,093
Speaker 17: felt like I was in my I was in my body,

994
00:46:58,333 --> 00:47:00,093
Speaker 17: floating above my body, trying to wake up, but I

995
00:47:00,213 --> 00:47:01,853
Speaker 17: just couldn't couldn't wake up. And then all of a

996
00:47:01,853 --> 00:47:04,013
Speaker 17: sudden I woke up and I freaked out and tried

997
00:47:04,013 --> 00:47:05,533
Speaker 17: to get up, and I just couldn't walk or anything.

998
00:47:05,533 --> 00:47:07,732
Speaker 17: I had no watch on my system, I get, but yeah,

999
00:47:07,853 --> 00:47:09,212
Speaker 17: it was. It was a scary time.

1000
00:47:09,533 --> 00:47:12,333
Speaker 2: And how do you thank someone that has done that

1001
00:47:12,773 --> 00:47:13,093
Speaker 2: for you?

1002
00:47:13,213 --> 00:47:16,733
Speaker 17: Cody A bottom a bottle is something I think it was.

1003
00:47:17,293 --> 00:47:19,773
Speaker 17: Then I don't really say I touched them now named Ben,

1004
00:47:19,853 --> 00:47:25,173
Speaker 17: so be listening. Ben, thanks very much, But yeah, I

1005
00:47:25,213 --> 00:47:27,253
Speaker 17: don't know. I got a wife and two kids now,

1006
00:47:27,293 --> 00:47:28,973
Speaker 17: and I never would have obviously had the opportunity if

1007
00:47:29,013 --> 00:47:30,813
Speaker 17: I offended to know what he was doing. I think

1008
00:47:32,133 --> 00:47:33,933
Speaker 17: in the time, at the time it was happening, and

1009
00:47:34,173 --> 00:47:36,373
Speaker 17: there was the nurse somewhere nearby that came and outed

1010
00:47:36,413 --> 00:47:39,613
Speaker 17: as well. And yeah, so it's yes. I don't know,

1011
00:47:39,813 --> 00:47:41,333
Speaker 17: it's weird talking about it now because I haven't thought

1012
00:47:41,333 --> 00:47:42,732
Speaker 17: about it in a long time, and obviously the topic

1013
00:47:42,773 --> 00:47:44,373
Speaker 17: you're talking about today sort of reminded me.

1014
00:47:44,733 --> 00:47:47,493
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it's interesting because you've got kids, and you

1015
00:47:47,693 --> 00:47:49,853
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have kids, would you. I mean, those kids

1016
00:47:49,893 --> 00:47:54,133
Speaker 2: would not exist. So that's that's a terrifying thought, isn't it. Well,

1017
00:47:54,293 --> 00:47:56,173
Speaker 2: I will say that you sound it doesn't sound like

1018
00:47:56,213 --> 00:47:58,413
Speaker 2: you damaged it all. You sound you sound very sharp.

1019
00:47:58,773 --> 00:48:02,253
Speaker 2: Did you do the training because of this incident or

1020
00:48:02,373 --> 00:48:04,373
Speaker 2: because you're a parent, or why have you done the

1021
00:48:04,413 --> 00:48:06,893
Speaker 2: training that you think that you could save someone in

1022
00:48:06,933 --> 00:48:08,093
Speaker 2: this kind of situation? Cody?

1023
00:48:09,293 --> 00:48:11,213
Speaker 17: The job Iman puts me through the training. I actually

1024
00:48:11,253 --> 00:48:13,093
Speaker 17: have a two day first day course coming up in

1025
00:48:13,133 --> 00:48:14,693
Speaker 17: a couple of a couple of weeks as well, so

1026
00:48:15,053 --> 00:48:16,733
Speaker 17: more training for me, like they do it periodically.

1027
00:48:17,893 --> 00:48:19,732
Speaker 3: Well, if I go down, I hope you're about Yeah,

1028
00:48:20,013 --> 00:48:23,413
Speaker 3: just out of interest, I mean, slightly left field question here, Cody.

1029
00:48:23,453 --> 00:48:26,013
Speaker 3: But you mentioned it before so as you were starting

1030
00:48:26,093 --> 00:48:27,693
Speaker 3: to fade out and you talk about that out of

1031
00:48:27,733 --> 00:48:30,933
Speaker 3: body experience, But was there their panic or did you think, right,

1032
00:48:31,093 --> 00:48:33,172
Speaker 3: this is it, I'm on my way out. I mean,

1033
00:48:33,213 --> 00:48:35,573
Speaker 3: what went through your head and that that scenario before

1034
00:48:35,613 --> 00:48:36,613
Speaker 3: you did go unconscious?

1035
00:48:37,373 --> 00:48:40,173
Speaker 17: It was absolute panic, Like I was unconscious and I

1036
00:48:40,853 --> 00:48:43,293
Speaker 17: was trying to wake myself up but I just couldn't.

1037
00:48:43,333 --> 00:48:45,333
Speaker 17: It was really, really weird, and I believe in none

1038
00:48:45,373 --> 00:48:48,093
Speaker 17: of that stuff, but it just it was crazy and

1039
00:48:48,373 --> 00:48:49,772
Speaker 17: l eight hours and it was only a minute.

1040
00:48:50,813 --> 00:48:52,573
Speaker 3: Well, glad you're with us, Cody. What was the name

1041
00:48:52,573 --> 00:48:53,373
Speaker 3: of your friend again.

1042
00:48:53,373 --> 00:48:54,093
Speaker 2: Ben Ben?

1043
00:48:55,133 --> 00:48:55,293
Speaker 5: Good?

1044
00:48:55,693 --> 00:48:58,172
Speaker 2: Ben Ben from Taranaki. What a great New Zealander. Yeah,

1045
00:48:58,213 --> 00:48:59,573
Speaker 2: all right, thank you for your call, Cody.

1046
00:48:59,693 --> 00:49:00,453
Speaker 3: What a great Sclori.

1047
00:49:00,493 --> 00:49:01,093
Speaker 2: You're still with us?

1048
00:49:01,213 --> 00:49:03,333
Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you very much. O one hundred and eighty

1049
00:49:03,453 --> 00:49:05,533
Speaker 3: ten eighty. Do you know how to do CPR save

1050
00:49:05,653 --> 00:49:09,933
Speaker 3: somebody's life? If you need to love to hear from you, Chris.

1051
00:49:09,853 --> 00:49:11,893
Speaker 2: You can out with us. So you teach CPR. Is

1052
00:49:11,973 --> 00:49:12,373
Speaker 2: that correct?

1053
00:49:13,333 --> 00:49:13,893
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right.

1054
00:49:13,933 --> 00:49:16,133
Speaker 4: You stole my front thunder a little bit when you're

1055
00:49:16,173 --> 00:49:19,893
Speaker 4: talking about shot tober. So I'm what's called a community

1056
00:49:20,053 --> 00:49:23,213
Speaker 4: educated volunteer. Hate honey. Saint John has lord up and

1057
00:49:23,213 --> 00:49:26,533
Speaker 4: down the country, and the main stay of our program

1058
00:49:26,733 --> 00:49:29,252
Speaker 4: is called three steps for light. So that's the number

1059
00:49:29,333 --> 00:49:32,453
Speaker 4: three steps for light. And what that is is you're

1060
00:49:32,493 --> 00:49:34,613
Speaker 4: familiarize people what happens when you do a one one one,

1061
00:49:35,093 --> 00:49:38,613
Speaker 4: how to do CPR, and what AD looks like and

1062
00:49:38,733 --> 00:49:41,173
Speaker 4: how to access them, and quite often we get a

1063
00:49:41,173 --> 00:49:44,013
Speaker 4: lot of other sort of questions. So we usually start

1064
00:49:44,093 --> 00:49:46,373
Speaker 4: with talking about a set of letters that you would

1065
00:49:46,453 --> 00:49:48,293
Speaker 4: learn on a first aid course. Have you done a

1066
00:49:48,293 --> 00:49:49,212
Speaker 4: first aid course before?

1067
00:49:49,973 --> 00:49:52,533
Speaker 3: No, I did in high school, but I you know,

1068
00:49:53,053 --> 00:49:54,373
Speaker 3: I have forgotten most of it.

1069
00:49:54,453 --> 00:49:54,973
Speaker 7: To be honest.

1070
00:49:55,173 --> 00:49:56,253
Speaker 2: Here's a big drinker back then.

1071
00:49:56,293 --> 00:50:02,093
Speaker 4: So yeah, So we talk about doctors ABC, so DRF, A, B, C,

1072
00:50:02,293 --> 00:50:05,453
Speaker 4: D so D. You stand for dangers, So that's dangers

1073
00:50:05,493 --> 00:50:07,933
Speaker 4: to you all the person that you're trying to help.

1074
00:50:08,333 --> 00:50:10,253
Speaker 4: So unfortunately, in the homes, you know, like you might

1075
00:50:10,333 --> 00:50:12,613
Speaker 4: have a wet titching floor, you might slip as well,

1076
00:50:12,733 --> 00:50:15,252
Speaker 4: so put a towel down. We have some accidents where

1077
00:50:15,253 --> 00:50:18,293
Speaker 4: people step out onto the road on the left side

1078
00:50:18,533 --> 00:50:20,652
Speaker 4: and don't look right and get taken out by another car.

1079
00:50:20,773 --> 00:50:22,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you've been in plant state, wouldn't you, So

1080
00:50:23,013 --> 00:50:24,333
Speaker 2: you'd make terrible decisions if.

1081
00:50:24,293 --> 00:50:26,973
Speaker 4: You're look here for Yeah, and particularly if it's your kid,

1082
00:50:27,013 --> 00:50:29,853
Speaker 4: you know you're just not what so doctors. Then the

1083
00:50:29,893 --> 00:50:32,172
Speaker 4: next one is response. So this is where you want

1084
00:50:32,213 --> 00:50:34,053
Speaker 4: to see the person who might be lying on the ground.

1085
00:50:34,373 --> 00:50:37,333
Speaker 4: Do you get a response? So what we what we

1086
00:50:37,493 --> 00:50:40,013
Speaker 4: teachers go and now hi, my name's press open your

1087
00:50:40,133 --> 00:50:42,933
Speaker 4: eyes and then if they open your eyes, they can

1088
00:50:43,013 --> 00:50:45,812
Speaker 4: hear you and they are alert. If they don't open

1089
00:50:45,853 --> 00:50:48,733
Speaker 4: their eyes or you get no movement, you squeeze their shoulders.

1090
00:50:48,933 --> 00:50:52,573
Speaker 4: You're looking for that unconscious. You don't get that. You

1091
00:50:52,653 --> 00:50:55,213
Speaker 4: didn't check to see whether the breathing. So the unconscious

1092
00:50:55,293 --> 00:50:59,252
Speaker 4: and non responsive go one on one, okay, and also

1093
00:50:59,533 --> 00:51:01,653
Speaker 4: get someone with fears to go find ad. Then you

1094
00:51:01,733 --> 00:51:04,533
Speaker 4: start doing CPR. And CPR was kind of pretty easy.

1095
00:51:04,573 --> 00:51:06,293
Speaker 4: We've got kids in our youth program who are eight

1096
00:51:06,413 --> 00:51:09,053
Speaker 4: years old that can do. Man this little app that

1097
00:51:09,093 --> 00:51:11,253
Speaker 4: you can check how you go your compressions and you

1098
00:51:11,293 --> 00:51:13,693
Speaker 4: can get one hundred percent. These kids can do it,

1099
00:51:13,773 --> 00:51:16,053
Speaker 4: so anybody can do it. And it's just putting your

1100
00:51:16,093 --> 00:51:18,293
Speaker 4: hands in the middle of the chest between down from

1101
00:51:18,333 --> 00:51:21,053
Speaker 4: their nose, across in their armpits, middle of the chest,

1102
00:51:21,213 --> 00:51:25,253
Speaker 4: arm straight and then start compressions. So said, when you

1103
00:51:25,333 --> 00:51:27,493
Speaker 4: first come across somebody don't worry about counting the numbers.

1104
00:51:27,613 --> 00:51:30,093
Speaker 4: Just get in there and do it straight away. But

1105
00:51:30,173 --> 00:51:32,013
Speaker 4: if you're doing it for a longer time, you talk

1106
00:51:32,053 --> 00:51:35,692
Speaker 4: about the cadence rate and everybody knows the song. Stay

1107
00:51:35,693 --> 00:51:39,772
Speaker 4: in the live, Stay in the live, or row row

1108
00:51:40,053 --> 00:51:42,613
Speaker 4: row the boat gently down the stream. So you aiming

1109
00:51:42,653 --> 00:51:44,973
Speaker 4: for about one hundred and ten beats per minute, and

1110
00:51:45,053 --> 00:51:47,613
Speaker 4: the other thing being as you do thirty thirty compressions

1111
00:51:47,693 --> 00:51:50,653
Speaker 4: to two breaths if you can do breasts, but you

1112
00:51:50,693 --> 00:51:53,933
Speaker 4: don't have to. And when the AAD arrives, you've got

1113
00:51:54,013 --> 00:51:56,252
Speaker 4: skin already. You connect it up step back. That tells

1114
00:51:56,253 --> 00:51:58,053
Speaker 4: you what needs to happen, gets the body of shot,

1115
00:51:58,093 --> 00:52:00,613
Speaker 4: and then you keep on going. That's the simplicity of it.

1116
00:52:01,133 --> 00:52:04,773
Speaker 4: Be faith, do some sort of CPR, because any CPR

1117
00:52:04,933 --> 00:52:07,533
Speaker 4: is better than no CPR, and just do your best

1118
00:52:07,813 --> 00:52:11,773
Speaker 4: because and sometimes and a bit triggering. Maybe the person's

1119
00:52:11,773 --> 00:52:14,252
Speaker 4: already dead so you're trying to bring them back. Yeah,

1120
00:52:14,373 --> 00:52:16,413
Speaker 4: but Saint John has this program for three steps alight

1121
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:20,333
Speaker 4: and October is our Shoctober month, so we try and

1122
00:52:20,493 --> 00:52:22,613
Speaker 4: max out and get to as many people as possible.

1123
00:52:22,693 --> 00:52:28,413
Speaker 4: So if you've got a business, Bunnings a supermarket, an

1124
00:52:28,453 --> 00:52:30,573
Speaker 4: accountancy firm, and you would just like give you a

1125
00:52:30,653 --> 00:52:32,573
Speaker 4: people a forty minute session then give them a go

1126
00:52:33,453 --> 00:52:35,973
Speaker 4: get online aspect and we'll turn up up and down

1127
00:52:36,013 --> 00:52:38,093
Speaker 4: the country. It's all free and we're just trying to

1128
00:52:38,093 --> 00:52:40,333
Speaker 4: get that message out there. We also do it for

1129
00:52:40,413 --> 00:52:40,973
Speaker 4: the rest of the.

1130
00:52:41,013 --> 00:52:47,453
Speaker 2: Year as well as this place. Is this speed here, Chris, Yeah,

1131
00:52:47,733 --> 00:52:50,573
Speaker 2: st dirt.

1132
00:52:50,573 --> 00:52:52,133
Speaker 3: Dirt that's quite fast.

1133
00:52:53,693 --> 00:52:53,893
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1134
00:52:54,213 --> 00:52:55,933
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of Beyonce song In fact, there's

1135
00:52:55,933 --> 00:52:59,573
Speaker 4: a playlist on Spotify for CPR songs if you're that

1136
00:52:59,853 --> 00:53:03,613
Speaker 4: engaged here and also and also there's an app you

1137
00:53:03,693 --> 00:53:06,853
Speaker 4: can get aed Finder, so you can get the app

1138
00:53:06,933 --> 00:53:08,133
Speaker 4: so you look at your phone and you can see

1139
00:53:08,173 --> 00:53:11,493
Speaker 4: we you're near nearest ads, particularly if you've got an

1140
00:53:11,533 --> 00:53:13,453
Speaker 4: older member or a member in your family that has

1141
00:53:13,533 --> 00:53:15,853
Speaker 4: some sort of medical condition, you should really know where

1142
00:53:15,893 --> 00:53:16,133
Speaker 4: they are.

1143
00:53:16,333 --> 00:53:17,053
Speaker 2: What are those?

1144
00:53:17,173 --> 00:53:17,573
Speaker 5: What are those?

1145
00:53:17,773 --> 00:53:19,893
Speaker 2: Just just just specifically what are those?

1146
00:53:21,053 --> 00:53:25,013
Speaker 4: Well, so the AD is describulated device, I know where's

1147
00:53:25,013 --> 00:53:27,333
Speaker 4: a gizet shot to the body. You will see them

1148
00:53:27,373 --> 00:53:29,293
Speaker 4: all around the country in the big yellow boxes.

1149
00:53:29,413 --> 00:53:31,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're pretty good. They're pretty good. A when

1150
00:53:31,733 --> 00:53:34,293
Speaker 2: you when you when you use them, it'll give you instructions.

1151
00:53:34,413 --> 00:53:34,893
Speaker 2: Is that correct?

1152
00:53:35,773 --> 00:53:38,693
Speaker 4: Absolutely, They talk to you and they give you the

1153
00:53:38,733 --> 00:53:41,733
Speaker 4: beat as well if you want and how when to breathe.

1154
00:53:42,453 --> 00:53:44,253
Speaker 4: They're in the boxes. You know, one or one you

1155
00:53:44,333 --> 00:53:48,013
Speaker 4: get the code, dash it over. I unfortunately had fourteen

1156
00:53:48,493 --> 00:53:51,533
Speaker 4: just as an ordinary civilian driving around Wellington, I had

1157
00:53:51,693 --> 00:53:54,772
Speaker 4: fourteen incidents I came across in January and February. Wow,

1158
00:53:54,853 --> 00:53:56,213
Speaker 4: I think would be a bit of a magnet for

1159
00:53:57,133 --> 00:53:59,333
Speaker 4: in the road and somebody somebody would slip over on

1160
00:53:59,373 --> 00:54:00,413
Speaker 4: the side of the road and they'd be lying in

1161
00:54:00,453 --> 00:54:02,333
Speaker 4: the carp or something like that. So I ended up

1162
00:54:02,373 --> 00:54:04,213
Speaker 4: going and buying my own a d and put it

1163
00:54:04,253 --> 00:54:07,293
Speaker 4: in my car because if it saves a life, that's

1164
00:54:07,333 --> 00:54:07,653
Speaker 4: go for it.

1165
00:54:08,693 --> 00:54:10,652
Speaker 2: You're a great New Zealander. But also you also seem

1166
00:54:10,733 --> 00:54:13,413
Speaker 2: like a bit of a vortex for incidents. But you're

1167
00:54:13,453 --> 00:54:13,933
Speaker 2: a great.

1168
00:54:15,533 --> 00:54:17,893
Speaker 4: It wasn't januine February. Maybe it was a satisfide with

1169
00:54:17,973 --> 00:54:22,773
Speaker 4: my Christmas presents or something. But and you know, we

1170
00:54:22,853 --> 00:54:24,573
Speaker 4: can come into your studio and do it and let

1171
00:54:24,653 --> 00:54:25,853
Speaker 4: you two have a go if you want.

1172
00:54:25,933 --> 00:54:27,693
Speaker 3: Please, yeah, yeah, please, we would love that.

1173
00:54:27,853 --> 00:54:30,173
Speaker 2: We need to do that. I'd hate for trailer to

1174
00:54:30,213 --> 00:54:32,213
Speaker 2: go down and me lose them because I don't know

1175
00:54:32,253 --> 00:54:32,813
Speaker 2: what I'm doing.

1176
00:54:32,653 --> 00:54:33,853
Speaker 3: And there's a high probability in the.

1177
00:54:35,133 --> 00:54:37,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is quite old and he's got those other habits,

1178
00:54:37,213 --> 00:54:39,493
Speaker 4: and you know, I mean you could go down because

1179
00:54:39,493 --> 00:54:41,133
Speaker 4: of all the robotics strapping you're doing.

1180
00:54:41,173 --> 00:54:41,813
Speaker 11: You could be careful.

1181
00:54:43,013 --> 00:54:46,653
Speaker 2: Hey, Chris, just another question? What about So there's this

1182
00:54:46,893 --> 00:54:48,573
Speaker 2: there's the the what is it?

1183
00:54:48,653 --> 00:54:48,933
Speaker 13: The D?

1184
00:54:50,093 --> 00:54:50,253
Speaker 5: Is it?

1185
00:54:50,413 --> 00:54:52,373
Speaker 2: Danger's response? And what's the third one?

1186
00:54:53,693 --> 00:54:59,172
Speaker 4: Doctor's ABC danger response scene for help? And then seeing

1187
00:54:59,213 --> 00:55:01,333
Speaker 4: for help. You seem to get your a D. Then

1188
00:55:01,373 --> 00:55:05,813
Speaker 4: you do your earways, breathing CPR, connect the defibrillator. It's

1189
00:55:05,853 --> 00:55:08,053
Speaker 4: just the thing to run through your mind. What do

1190
00:55:08,173 --> 00:55:11,253
Speaker 4: I need to do? Check it I'm safe, Check the

1191
00:55:11,333 --> 00:55:13,413
Speaker 4: tee the person's responding, because if they're responding, you don't

1192
00:55:13,413 --> 00:55:15,613
Speaker 4: want connect the AD because you know there might be

1193
00:55:15,613 --> 00:55:17,533
Speaker 4: a bit peeved at you if you suddenly give them

1194
00:55:17,533 --> 00:55:19,133
Speaker 4: a shock to start your heart and they're ab to you.

1195
00:55:19,213 --> 00:55:23,773
Speaker 2: Okay, what about the problem that you know, sometimes you

1196
00:55:23,813 --> 00:55:26,013
Speaker 2: come across someone there in a bad state and then

1197
00:55:26,093 --> 00:55:29,453
Speaker 2: it turns out that they're just drunk. That's the response thing.

1198
00:55:30,773 --> 00:55:33,813
Speaker 4: So we're really lucky in New Zealand And New Zealanders

1199
00:55:33,933 --> 00:55:37,693
Speaker 4: really do care if we see somebody stumbling around. And

1200
00:55:37,773 --> 00:55:41,693
Speaker 4: remember somebody could be stumbling because they're drunk, or because

1201
00:55:41,693 --> 00:55:44,293
Speaker 4: they're disoriented, or it could be a diabetic attack, or

1202
00:55:44,413 --> 00:55:45,693
Speaker 4: it could be a nut of it. So there's a

1203
00:55:45,733 --> 00:55:48,653
Speaker 4: bunch of different reasons. So the first thing there was

1204
00:55:48,693 --> 00:55:51,373
Speaker 4: try and engage with them. And the next thing that

1205
00:55:51,413 --> 00:55:54,333
Speaker 4: comes to mind is the dangers. This becomes dangerous for

1206
00:55:54,413 --> 00:55:56,493
Speaker 4: you and they walk on to the middle of the

1207
00:55:56,533 --> 00:55:58,692
Speaker 4: road and you try and stop the traffic, don't try

1208
00:55:58,773 --> 00:56:00,732
Speaker 4: to approach them, and that's when I would be calling

1209
00:56:00,773 --> 00:56:02,453
Speaker 4: one or won't ask the police to come and give help.

1210
00:56:02,813 --> 00:56:05,173
Speaker 4: So just yeah, we're quite lucky like that.

1211
00:56:05,333 --> 00:56:07,013
Speaker 2: Well, God on your question, what's the best way again

1212
00:56:07,133 --> 00:56:09,573
Speaker 2: to get those Shoctober courses?

1213
00:56:10,893 --> 00:56:16,573
Speaker 4: So figures three three steps for life at Saint John

1214
00:56:16,813 --> 00:56:20,413
Speaker 4: dot org dot n Z. We paid it all explains there.

1215
00:56:20,453 --> 00:56:23,093
Speaker 4: But that's the email. And then we've got a couple

1216
00:56:23,093 --> 00:56:25,253
Speaker 4: of really great managers and they will find somebody and

1217
00:56:25,293 --> 00:56:27,333
Speaker 4: then we'll turn up and Wellington quite likely to be

1218
00:56:27,453 --> 00:56:29,613
Speaker 4: meet but and I do a lot for planket no

1219
00:56:29,693 --> 00:56:32,013
Speaker 4: sort of things as well. So there's anybody we can

1220
00:56:32,093 --> 00:56:33,212
Speaker 4: go to that might save a life.

1221
00:56:33,533 --> 00:56:36,333
Speaker 2: What's interesting because you're obviously a vortex for incidents where

1222
00:56:36,373 --> 00:56:39,173
Speaker 2: they need your help. We're we're we're also stumbled across

1223
00:56:39,253 --> 00:56:40,893
Speaker 2: shocktober completely accidentally.

1224
00:56:41,973 --> 00:56:42,333
Speaker 5: Yeah I know.

1225
00:56:43,213 --> 00:56:46,693
Speaker 4: So you produce a said, but down Wellington, down and Welton,

1226
00:56:46,693 --> 00:56:49,413
Speaker 4: we're really lucky because we have choctober as well. So

1227
00:56:49,573 --> 00:56:52,613
Speaker 4: that's with with it is chocolate. So maybe next year

1228
00:56:52,653 --> 00:56:53,973
Speaker 4: you come and do a course and we'll give you

1229
00:56:53,973 --> 00:56:54,533
Speaker 4: a chocolate bart.

1230
00:56:54,653 --> 00:56:55,373
Speaker 3: That sounds pretty good.

1231
00:56:57,453 --> 00:56:58,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're.

1232
00:56:58,013 --> 00:56:59,813
Speaker 4: Wellington you're got choptober as well, so it's a good

1233
00:56:59,893 --> 00:57:00,613
Speaker 4: chance they ever go there.

1234
00:57:00,773 --> 00:57:01,053
Speaker 6: Love it.

1235
00:57:01,213 --> 00:57:04,732
Speaker 3: Chris, you're a good man and we thank you people

1236
00:57:04,773 --> 00:57:06,853
Speaker 3: like yeah see mate, thank for people like chriss out

1237
00:57:06,893 --> 00:57:09,973
Speaker 3: in the community. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is

1238
00:57:10,053 --> 00:57:12,213
Speaker 3: the number to call. Plenty of calls to get to

1239
00:57:12,213 --> 00:57:14,172
Speaker 3: if you want to say, it takes nine two nine two.

1240
00:57:14,493 --> 00:57:16,493
Speaker 3: Do you know how to save someone's life if you

1241
00:57:16,573 --> 00:57:18,653
Speaker 3: need to, if you find yourself in that situation, it's

1242
00:57:18,693 --> 00:57:19,853
Speaker 3: twenty seven past two.

1243
00:57:20,093 --> 00:57:21,933
Speaker 2: Apparently. Another one bite the dust is a good one

1244
00:57:21,973 --> 00:57:27,173
Speaker 2: as well. Don't don't don't, don't, don't, durn done pay June,

1245
00:57:27,333 --> 00:57:32,093
Speaker 2: don't durn't don't. Yeah, good Chune love it? Okay, very

1246
00:57:32,133 --> 00:57:32,453
Speaker 2: good enough.

1247
00:57:35,653 --> 00:57:39,013
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1248
00:57:39,093 --> 00:57:41,253
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on used talk SV.

1249
00:57:41,573 --> 00:57:44,973
Speaker 2: Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, you say you're bet after the stink

1250
00:57:45,093 --> 00:57:47,493
Speaker 2: jump the gun? There you say your bet about the

1251
00:57:47,573 --> 00:57:50,253
Speaker 2: station and the time and what we're talking about after

1252
00:57:50,333 --> 00:57:51,093
Speaker 2: the stak All right.

1253
00:57:51,173 --> 00:57:55,653
Speaker 3: So excited we're talking about CPR and I jump the gun. Okay, okay,

1254
00:57:55,773 --> 00:57:57,493
Speaker 3: all right, now you go, what are we a year

1255
00:57:57,533 --> 00:57:57,813
Speaker 3: into it?

1256
00:57:57,893 --> 00:57:58,013
Speaker 5: Now?

1257
00:57:58,293 --> 00:57:59,293
Speaker 3: We're professionals here.

1258
00:57:59,253 --> 00:58:01,613
Speaker 2: Coming up in October. Have been doing this for a year.

1259
00:58:01,693 --> 00:58:03,893
Speaker 3: Amazingly time flies when you're having fun.

1260
00:58:03,973 --> 00:58:05,533
Speaker 2: You think we'd learned how to do it at some point.

1261
00:58:06,453 --> 00:58:08,173
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty today is a number to call it.

1262
00:58:08,333 --> 00:58:11,453
Speaker 3: I've had so many texts coming through about CPR. Do

1263
00:58:11,573 --> 00:58:13,533
Speaker 3: you know what you're doing if someone gets in trouble

1264
00:58:13,573 --> 00:58:16,733
Speaker 3: and you need to perform CPR on them or first aids?

1265
00:58:17,573 --> 00:58:18,653
Speaker 3: Plenty of texts coming through.

1266
00:58:18,653 --> 00:58:24,013
Speaker 2: Aa AEDs in all ASB banks, these stations and McDonald's

1267
00:58:24,013 --> 00:58:26,413
Speaker 2: and lots of other places. You can search AED in

1268
00:58:26,493 --> 00:58:30,293
Speaker 2: both app stores to find your closest AED in your community.

1269
00:58:30,333 --> 00:58:33,653
Speaker 2: Says this Texter me, thank you for that. That's great

1270
00:58:33,693 --> 00:58:36,733
Speaker 2: to know. Good afternoon, Matt. As a father of four children,

1271
00:58:36,813 --> 00:58:39,693
Speaker 2: I did a first aid course and an advanced resuscitation course.

1272
00:58:39,813 --> 00:58:41,973
Speaker 2: Quite selfishly. I was doing it so that I'd be

1273
00:58:42,053 --> 00:58:44,653
Speaker 2: able to try and save my kids if anything ever happened.

1274
00:58:45,093 --> 00:58:47,773
Speaker 2: It's a very worthwhile thing to do. Quite recently, I

1275
00:58:48,093 --> 00:58:49,893
Speaker 2: was amongst the first people on the scene of a

1276
00:58:49,973 --> 00:58:52,613
Speaker 2: head on collision and Ellerslie. I have to say the

1277
00:58:52,693 --> 00:58:55,733
Speaker 2: training was very helpful, but it is incredibly confronting when

1278
00:58:55,733 --> 00:58:58,253
Speaker 2: you arrive on the scene of a serious accident. I

1279
00:58:58,453 --> 00:59:01,733
Speaker 2: was very grateful that there was a doctor there already. Sadly,

1280
00:59:01,773 --> 00:59:03,853
Speaker 2: the occupant of one of the cars died on the scene.

1281
00:59:04,413 --> 00:59:04,653
Speaker 5: Wow.

1282
00:59:05,333 --> 00:59:07,933
Speaker 2: I take my head off to all the hat off.

1283
00:59:09,293 --> 00:59:11,213
Speaker 2: Don't take your head off. I take my hat off

1284
00:59:11,293 --> 00:59:13,573
Speaker 2: to all of the first responders who deal with these

1285
00:59:13,613 --> 00:59:18,053
Speaker 2: issues on a daily basis. Absolutely incredible work. In the

1286
00:59:18,173 --> 00:59:20,933
Speaker 2: term Great New Zealanders banded about a lot these days,

1287
00:59:21,013 --> 00:59:23,973
Speaker 2: but particularly by Mate, but first responders.

1288
00:59:24,173 --> 00:59:27,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right, coming up, We've got the headlines, plenty

1289
00:59:27,653 --> 00:59:29,533
Speaker 3: of calls to get to, so we'll get to more

1290
00:59:29,573 --> 00:59:31,173
Speaker 3: of your story shortly. But We're also going to be

1291
00:59:31,253 --> 00:59:34,333
Speaker 3: joined by Gareth Richards. He is a pre hospital and

1292
00:59:34,453 --> 00:59:37,973
Speaker 3: retrieval medicine doctor with the WESTPEC Rescue helicopter. We got

1293
00:59:38,053 --> 00:59:41,653
Speaker 3: plenty of questions for him about what we all need

1294
00:59:41,773 --> 00:59:43,933
Speaker 3: to upskill on if we need to save someone's life.

1295
00:59:43,973 --> 00:59:44,973
Speaker 3: So that is coming up next.

1296
00:59:45,173 --> 00:59:47,213
Speaker 2: Someone's saying that the Baby Shark song is perfect for

1297
00:59:47,253 --> 00:59:48,613
Speaker 2: the speed, but we're not going.

1298
00:59:48,573 --> 00:59:50,493
Speaker 3: To We've got to play a little bit of that. No,

1299
00:59:50,693 --> 00:59:52,253
Speaker 3: I've got it lined up ready to go. I saw

1300
00:59:52,333 --> 00:59:54,133
Speaker 3: that come through and I need to hear it. That

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Speaker 3: Andrew shaking his as it's.

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Speaker 2: A mind crime. That is an invasion of people's mental space.

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01:00:00,613 --> 01:00:03,933
Speaker 2: Playing that song it will stick with you for years.

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Speaker 3: Can we put it out to the text audience, would

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Speaker 3: you like to hear a little bit of Baby Shark

1306
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Speaker 3: two nine two? Yay or nay? And what will determine?

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Speaker 2: And whatever the result comes back, it's a nay.

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Speaker 13: You talk said the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's

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Speaker 13: no trouble with the Blue Bubble. Details today on how

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01:00:24,013 --> 01:00:28,293
Speaker 13: the government's twelve billion dollar defense capability plan will be implemented.

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Speaker 13: Ministers have launched a four year defense industry strategy which

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Speaker 13: aims to deliver capability faster harmas negotiators remain in cutter

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Speaker 13: pouring over a potential piece deal as the deadline ticks closer.

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Speaker 13: The US back deal would see Israel withdraw in exchange

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Speaker 13: for harmass disarming and releasing all hostages.

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Speaker 2: A christ Church.

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Speaker 13: Homeless community has been ordered to leave a makeshift campground

1318
01:00:53,893 --> 01:00:57,413
Speaker 13: in the car park of Avonside's Holy Trinity Church today

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01:00:57,733 --> 01:01:02,293
Speaker 13: after multiple complaints. One lane is open along State Highway

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Speaker 13: One north of Kaapiro in waikottl after a fallen tree

1321
01:01:05,893 --> 01:01:09,533
Speaker 13: blocked the road this morning. Fire and emergency staffer using

1322
01:01:09,693 --> 01:01:14,253
Speaker 13: chainsaws to remove the tree. Taylor Swifts said to unveil

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01:01:14,333 --> 01:01:18,613
Speaker 13: her highly anticipated twelfth studio album, The Life of a

1324
01:01:18,733 --> 01:01:22,413
Speaker 13: show Girl. I made a frenzy of fan excitement. The record,

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Speaker 13: which is expected to top charts around the world, will

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Speaker 13: be released at five our time Queenstown Artificial Glowworm Cave

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Speaker 13: Winds Consent. Find out more at Ended Herald Premium. Back

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01:01:34,733 --> 01:01:36,053
Speaker 13: to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

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01:01:36,133 --> 01:01:38,333
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Ray Lean So in a moment

1330
01:01:38,413 --> 01:01:41,133
Speaker 3: we will be speaking to Gareth Richards. He's a pre

1331
01:01:41,333 --> 01:01:44,213
Speaker 3: hospital and retrieval medicine doctor with the Westbat Rescue Alicopter

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01:01:44,533 --> 01:01:47,293
Speaker 3: knows a lot about the skills we should probably all

1333
01:01:47,413 --> 01:01:50,333
Speaker 3: have to some extent when it comes to saving somebody's

1334
01:01:50,373 --> 01:01:52,013
Speaker 3: life if you need to. But Kenny, your story is

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01:01:52,093 --> 01:01:53,653
Speaker 3: on our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Troy, Welcome to the show.

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01:01:56,013 --> 01:01:56,773
Speaker 18: Thik that Dan.

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01:01:57,453 --> 01:02:03,453
Speaker 2: So you've had an experience with firsthand emergency response, Yeah.

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01:02:03,573 --> 01:02:07,053
Speaker 19: Multiple experiences over the years. I'm a surfer of a

1340
01:02:07,533 --> 01:02:12,133
Speaker 19: few years and I've had to deal with people drowning

1341
01:02:12,853 --> 01:02:14,573
Speaker 19: just that. Every summer. I thought I'd rang in because

1342
01:02:14,573 --> 01:02:16,453
Speaker 19: it's such a nice day. I'm down here in Southland

1343
01:02:17,013 --> 01:02:19,213
Speaker 19: and it's a beautiful day. Mountains are all shut and

1344
01:02:19,293 --> 01:02:20,853
Speaker 19: people will be starting to head to the beach as

1345
01:02:20,893 --> 01:02:25,293
Speaker 19: soon and I've just got like three. Well, there's been

1346
01:02:25,653 --> 01:02:27,693
Speaker 19: every summer. There's been lots of lots of examples. I

1347
01:02:27,813 --> 01:02:31,053
Speaker 19: used to live in christ Church and there's a feeling.

1348
01:02:31,133 --> 01:02:33,133
Speaker 19: Notorists rip up there and some in the corner of

1349
01:02:33,173 --> 01:02:36,253
Speaker 19: some of the beach in every summer, Big Northwales and

1350
01:02:36,373 --> 01:02:39,973
Speaker 19: you get people swimming in the corner there. Probably the

1351
01:02:40,013 --> 01:02:41,973
Speaker 19: last time I was up there, there was three young guys.

1352
01:02:42,213 --> 01:02:44,213
Speaker 19: They were all getting swimming and they all got pulled

1353
01:02:44,213 --> 01:02:45,533
Speaker 19: out in the rip. I've been surfing.

1354
01:02:46,253 --> 01:02:46,813
Speaker 17: I saw them.

1355
01:02:47,013 --> 01:02:49,053
Speaker 19: I was probably about a minute away from one of

1356
01:02:49,093 --> 01:02:51,133
Speaker 19: them drowning. They were starting to go under, and I

1357
01:02:51,413 --> 01:02:53,093
Speaker 19: went out on the board pulled them all back in.

1358
01:02:54,453 --> 01:02:56,773
Speaker 19: I had an incident in Bali a few years ago.

1359
01:02:57,013 --> 01:02:58,773
Speaker 19: There was a Russian lady. She's never been to the

1360
01:02:58,813 --> 01:03:00,573
Speaker 19: beach before, and she was getting sucked out to sea

1361
01:03:00,613 --> 01:03:03,853
Speaker 19: and she was freaking out. Managed to get her, but

1362
01:03:04,013 --> 01:03:06,493
Speaker 19: she was like, you know, she was screaming, you know,

1363
01:03:06,573 --> 01:03:09,493
Speaker 19: she thought she was going to die. And then probably

1364
01:03:09,533 --> 01:03:12,533
Speaker 19: in the last few years, my daughter were up at

1365
01:03:14,173 --> 01:03:16,853
Speaker 19: the Florus Bridge up there one summer and she was

1366
01:03:16,853 --> 01:03:19,613
Speaker 19: probably about seven, I suppose, and she followed some friends

1367
01:03:19,653 --> 01:03:23,213
Speaker 19: into the river to go swimming. When under didn't touch

1368
01:03:23,253 --> 01:03:26,293
Speaker 19: the bottom, came up, went under again. When she came

1369
01:03:26,413 --> 01:03:28,413
Speaker 19: up the second time, the lock on her face and

1370
01:03:28,493 --> 01:03:31,333
Speaker 19: she went under the third time, and I just ran all.

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01:03:31,293 --> 01:03:33,453
Speaker 4: My clothes and dived in and pulled her out, and

1372
01:03:33,613 --> 01:03:35,933
Speaker 4: she was probably ten seconds away from drowning.

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01:03:36,173 --> 01:03:36,373
Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 19: But I just thought it wrong because every summer, you know,

1375
01:03:39,933 --> 01:03:42,213
Speaker 19: it's important. We live on an island, so you need

1376
01:03:42,253 --> 01:03:43,453
Speaker 19: to sort of keep an eye out and then we

1377
01:03:43,533 --> 01:03:45,293
Speaker 19: surf us up and down the country hill help.

1378
01:03:45,173 --> 01:03:45,533
Speaker 5: In the water.

1379
01:03:46,013 --> 01:03:49,173
Speaker 4: I'm sure I'm not a professional.

1380
01:03:48,813 --> 01:03:51,333
Speaker 19: Like that last chap you had on there, but yeah,

1381
01:03:51,333 --> 01:03:52,893
Speaker 19: I think it's pretty important just to keep an eye

1382
01:03:52,933 --> 01:03:53,453
Speaker 19: out on people.

1383
01:03:54,053 --> 01:03:56,213
Speaker 2: What's the current thinking about a rip? So if you're

1384
01:03:56,253 --> 01:03:58,373
Speaker 2: in a rip, is still the idea not to fight

1385
01:03:58,453 --> 01:04:00,173
Speaker 2: it so you've got your energy when you're thrown out

1386
01:04:00,213 --> 01:04:00,733
Speaker 2: the other side.

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01:04:01,773 --> 01:04:02,693
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, yep.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, And I mean most beaches, like look at Piha

1389
01:04:04,893 --> 01:04:08,093
Speaker 19: and all those really well populated beaches, there's usually like

1390
01:04:08,813 --> 01:04:13,333
Speaker 19: close by some where the rippers there is a lifeguard

1391
01:04:13,413 --> 01:04:15,733
Speaker 19: boat there and there is no arm that you can push,

1392
01:04:15,813 --> 01:04:16,333
Speaker 19: but there's.

1393
01:04:16,173 --> 01:04:18,093
Speaker 4: Not usually people watching, but there is a lot of

1394
01:04:18,093 --> 01:04:18,733
Speaker 4: people in the water.

1395
01:04:19,293 --> 01:04:22,893
Speaker 19: But yet generally you don't panic try and float. But

1396
01:04:23,133 --> 01:04:25,333
Speaker 19: when once people start screaming and waving their hands and

1397
01:04:25,413 --> 01:04:27,093
Speaker 19: saying they're going to die, it's usually a pretty good

1398
01:04:27,133 --> 01:04:28,813
Speaker 19: time to go and try and drag them out.

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01:04:29,453 --> 01:04:31,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but you know there's always those situations

1400
01:04:31,573 --> 01:04:33,173
Speaker 2: as well though, when people go and help and they

1401
01:04:33,253 --> 01:04:37,613
Speaker 2: save the person, but they end up losing their lives themselves,

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01:04:37,773 --> 01:04:40,333
Speaker 2: which is which is always such a tragic story when

1403
01:04:40,373 --> 01:04:40,693
Speaker 2: you hear.

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01:04:40,653 --> 01:04:43,613
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, but thank god for people like you, Troy,

1405
01:04:43,653 --> 01:04:45,533
Speaker 3: and the surface, and you're right about some that can

1406
01:04:45,613 --> 01:04:47,613
Speaker 3: be a really notorious creature beach.

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01:04:48,053 --> 01:04:51,213
Speaker 2: How different was it, Troy to you know, the feelings,

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01:04:51,253 --> 01:04:53,693
Speaker 2: the parental instant when your daughter was in that situation,

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01:04:54,013 --> 01:04:57,333
Speaker 2: because you know, I've had my son went over under

1410
01:04:57,453 --> 01:04:59,333
Speaker 2: at one point, just a total cock up by me.

1411
01:04:59,493 --> 01:05:02,533
Speaker 2: But the panic, every second of that panic I can

1412
01:05:02,653 --> 01:05:06,133
Speaker 2: remember to this day seeing my son go under. It was, Yeah,

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01:05:06,453 --> 01:05:08,093
Speaker 2: it's quite intense, isn't it.

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01:05:09,013 --> 01:05:09,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's horrifying.

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01:05:09,853 --> 01:05:11,613
Speaker 19: And I saw the lock on her face and she

1416
01:05:12,293 --> 01:05:14,093
Speaker 19: was out of her debt, and you know, it was

1417
01:05:14,093 --> 01:05:16,253
Speaker 19: a beautiful sunny day. There was quite a few people there,

1418
01:05:16,533 --> 01:05:19,053
Speaker 19: but I was watching, watching her like a hawk. And

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01:05:19,453 --> 01:05:21,573
Speaker 19: when she came up, and when she went under the

1420
01:05:21,613 --> 01:05:23,973
Speaker 19: third time, the lock on her face as she went under,

1421
01:05:24,053 --> 01:05:27,053
Speaker 19: that that was it. I just sprinted. I was probably

1422
01:05:27,453 --> 01:05:29,693
Speaker 19: I don't know, fifteen meters away from my spy. I

1423
01:05:29,813 --> 01:05:32,373
Speaker 19: just sprinted and all my clothes just doped and pulled

1424
01:05:32,413 --> 01:05:35,133
Speaker 19: her up. And you know, you just have to be

1425
01:05:35,253 --> 01:05:35,813
Speaker 19: so careful.

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Speaker 4: People don't realize beaches are the same.

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01:05:38,613 --> 01:05:40,453
Speaker 2: You know, Heavens heavens summer.

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01:05:40,493 --> 01:05:41,933
Speaker 4: You just have to be very vigilant.

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Speaker 2: You got on you You just sound like a great dad. Troy. Hey,

1430
01:05:44,533 --> 01:05:47,093
Speaker 2: finally before we let you go, you have you served

1431
01:05:47,093 --> 01:05:47,773
Speaker 2: in the Catlands.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, but I'm pretty lucky where I live now. There's

1433
01:05:53,373 --> 01:05:55,213
Speaker 19: a lot of surf close to where I live, so

1434
01:05:55,293 --> 01:05:56,573
Speaker 19: I'll get a bit lazy. I don't drive to the

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01:05:56,653 --> 01:05:57,493
Speaker 19: Catlands for pretty much.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty hard called the Big Waves and the Catlands

1437
01:06:00,653 --> 01:06:01,213
Speaker 3: some of those.

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01:06:01,093 --> 01:06:03,613
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's not my thing, but there's plenty of

1439
01:06:03,693 --> 01:06:04,893
Speaker 4: guys down there that love that stuff.

1440
01:06:05,293 --> 01:06:08,093
Speaker 2: Some beautiful beaches there and there's not always the temperature

1441
01:06:08,093 --> 01:06:10,693
Speaker 2: of my want them to be, but incredible beacheres Hey,

1442
01:06:10,733 --> 01:06:12,573
Speaker 2: thank you so much for you call, Troy, appreciate it.

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01:06:12,653 --> 01:06:14,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great call. Right coming up after the break,

1444
01:06:14,853 --> 01:06:16,413
Speaker 3: we are going to have a chat to Gareth Richards,

1445
01:06:16,453 --> 01:06:20,773
Speaker 3: pre hospital and retrieval medicine doctor with West Pet Rescue helicopter.

1446
01:06:20,893 --> 01:06:23,053
Speaker 3: So that is coming up next twenty two three.

1447
01:06:23,853 --> 01:06:26,893
Speaker 1: A fresh take on Talkback. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

1448
01:06:26,933 --> 01:06:30,653
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten

1449
01:06:30,733 --> 01:06:31,573
Speaker 1: eighty youth talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be seventeen to three. So we've been talking about CPR,

1451
01:06:34,773 --> 01:06:36,893
Speaker 3: and first staid, do you know what to do if

1452
01:06:36,973 --> 01:06:39,733
Speaker 3: you come across a situation when somebody needs your assistance.

1453
01:06:40,013 --> 01:06:42,133
Speaker 3: A man who does know what to do is Gareth Richards.

1454
01:06:42,213 --> 01:06:45,253
Speaker 3: He is a pre hospital and retrieval medicine doctor with

1455
01:06:45,373 --> 01:06:48,413
Speaker 3: the West Pet Rescue helicopter and he's just back from

1456
01:06:48,453 --> 01:06:51,773
Speaker 3: a job. No Lesson joins us on the phone. Now, Gareth,

1457
01:06:51,853 --> 01:06:52,973
Speaker 3: very good afternoon.

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01:06:52,613 --> 01:06:55,053
Speaker 6: To you, good saying thanks for having me along.

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01:06:55,813 --> 01:06:57,573
Speaker 2: Can you share any details of the job or is

1460
01:06:57,613 --> 01:06:58,493
Speaker 2: that as that private.

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01:07:00,013 --> 01:07:02,253
Speaker 11: We went to see a young man who'd had an

1462
01:07:02,293 --> 01:07:03,973
Speaker 11: excellent out on one of the islands in the Gulf,

1463
01:07:04,533 --> 01:07:08,573
Speaker 11: and with the help of his family managed to write

1464
01:07:08,613 --> 01:07:10,253
Speaker 11: them with some treatment and get them into start a

1465
01:07:10,333 --> 01:07:14,413
Speaker 11: possible all successfully to get some further management of that problem.

1466
01:07:15,013 --> 01:07:17,653
Speaker 11: Very well and we expect them to do very well.

1467
01:07:17,853 --> 01:07:21,013
Speaker 2: Oh good on you mate, that's fantastic. Now we were

1468
01:07:21,013 --> 01:07:23,253
Speaker 2: talking about CPR before, and have've talked about a bit,

1469
01:07:23,333 --> 01:07:26,053
Speaker 2: but CPR is one thing. What should you do if

1470
01:07:26,653 --> 01:07:28,013
Speaker 2: someone's bleeding?

1471
01:07:30,293 --> 01:07:32,653
Speaker 11: Look, if you can see bleeding, then seeing where it's

1472
01:07:32,693 --> 01:07:34,973
Speaker 11: coming from, then the simplest thing to do is to

1473
01:07:35,053 --> 01:07:39,613
Speaker 11: put some pressure on it, and without making that sound simplistic,

1474
01:07:39,973 --> 01:07:44,653
Speaker 11: it's what we teach people in all sorts of situations.

1475
01:07:44,773 --> 01:07:47,693
Speaker 11: So whether it's an accident at the side of the road,

1476
01:07:47,813 --> 01:07:52,293
Speaker 11: whether it's someone who's been involved in a terrorist incident

1477
01:07:52,413 --> 01:07:55,413
Speaker 11: like we've talked about seen recently in the last twenty

1478
01:07:55,453 --> 01:07:58,293
Speaker 11: four hours in Manchester in England, or if someone's injured

1479
01:07:58,333 --> 01:08:00,893
Speaker 11: on the battlefield. The idea of simple pressure over a

1480
01:08:00,933 --> 01:08:04,773
Speaker 11: bleeding point is a very very effective way of helping

1481
01:08:04,853 --> 01:08:09,253
Speaker 11: control that bleeding until appropriately people can come and do

1482
01:08:09,453 --> 01:08:12,853
Speaker 11: something of a greater degree of intervention. So some simple

1483
01:08:12,933 --> 01:08:17,253
Speaker 11: pressure on it, even with fingers and thumbs and a

1484
01:08:17,293 --> 01:08:20,572
Speaker 11: little bit of gauze or something similar, making sure that

1485
01:08:20,613 --> 01:08:22,412
Speaker 11: you keep yourself safe at the same time.

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01:08:22,613 --> 01:08:25,293
Speaker 3: What's the advice around tornice's? I mean, is it ever

1487
01:08:25,412 --> 01:08:28,053
Speaker 3: worth trying to fashion some sort of tornice yourself or

1488
01:08:28,173 --> 01:08:31,372
Speaker 3: is that not really the advice if you see someone

1489
01:08:31,412 --> 01:08:31,932
Speaker 3: who's bleeding.

1490
01:08:33,013 --> 01:08:35,893
Speaker 11: It's an inesting question. Though in the nineteen eighties it

1491
01:08:36,013 --> 01:08:37,572
Speaker 11: was something we used to see on when I was

1492
01:08:37,612 --> 01:08:38,852
Speaker 11: growing up. It was something we used to see on

1493
01:08:38,893 --> 01:08:40,492
Speaker 11: TV all of the time, and then it went out

1494
01:08:40,532 --> 01:08:44,692
Speaker 11: of fashion quite significantly, and it's come back into our

1495
01:08:44,772 --> 01:08:48,492
Speaker 11: clinical practice with experience in the wars and past like

1496
01:08:48,572 --> 01:08:53,333
Speaker 11: Iraq and Afghanistan, that the simple thing to do for

1497
01:08:53,452 --> 01:08:57,173
Speaker 11: a simple bleeding point is to put some pressure on it,

1498
01:08:57,812 --> 01:09:01,133
Speaker 11: and the event of catastrophic bleeding, then a tornice is

1499
01:09:01,213 --> 01:09:06,053
Speaker 11: something that we will use. There are downsides to it

1500
01:09:06,133 --> 01:09:08,053
Speaker 11: in terms of blood supply to the rest of that

1501
01:09:08,412 --> 01:09:11,572
Speaker 11: in and potentially causing injury, but it's something in our

1502
01:09:11,692 --> 01:09:15,213
Speaker 11: armentarium we'd encourage people in the first instance, just do

1503
01:09:15,372 --> 01:09:18,852
Speaker 11: some nice direct pressure, nice and firm and see whether

1504
01:09:18,893 --> 01:09:20,092
Speaker 11: that's enough to stop the bleeding.

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01:09:21,013 --> 01:09:24,692
Speaker 2: There is a reasonable chance Gareth, that you know you

1506
01:09:24,812 --> 01:09:29,412
Speaker 2: might come across someone with a stab wound. What should

1507
01:09:29,412 --> 01:09:31,932
Speaker 2: you do if the staber is still there? I mean,

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01:09:31,973 --> 01:09:33,053
Speaker 2: that's a problem, isn't it.

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01:09:34,652 --> 01:09:37,532
Speaker 11: It was interesting talking to listening to your previous caller.

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01:09:37,652 --> 01:09:40,492
Speaker 11: Is this idea of people want to help, People want

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01:09:40,532 --> 01:09:44,773
Speaker 11: to get involved, but it's really important that you maintain

1512
01:09:44,933 --> 01:09:48,932
Speaker 11: your own safety in the first instance as well. If

1513
01:09:49,013 --> 01:09:51,893
Speaker 11: you being there and intervening and helping simply makes you

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01:09:52,093 --> 01:09:55,972
Speaker 11: another casualty, then that doesn't help you. It doesn't help

1515
01:09:56,013 --> 01:09:57,852
Speaker 11: the person that you've tried to save, and it doesn't

1516
01:09:57,893 --> 01:10:00,013
Speaker 11: help the emergency services that are coming to you. So

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01:10:00,732 --> 01:10:03,692
Speaker 11: if we're going, if we're tasked to an incident like that,

1518
01:10:03,933 --> 01:10:06,933
Speaker 11: then the police will clear that scene for us and

1519
01:10:07,053 --> 01:10:09,772
Speaker 11: say that it is safe to go and help the

1520
01:10:09,812 --> 01:10:13,972
Speaker 11: people that need our help. If you're approaching that as

1521
01:10:14,093 --> 01:10:17,173
Speaker 11: you're somebody walking down the streets or you're out of

1522
01:10:17,253 --> 01:10:19,932
Speaker 11: the movies or out of the shopping center, then making

1523
01:10:20,013 --> 01:10:23,372
Speaker 11: sure that you're safe in the first instance, and calling

1524
01:10:23,532 --> 01:10:26,772
Speaker 11: for help from emergency services, so the sooner you call

1525
01:10:26,853 --> 01:10:28,932
Speaker 11: for help, the sooner that help can be on its

1526
01:10:28,973 --> 01:10:30,972
Speaker 11: way and helping to manage that situation.

1527
01:10:31,652 --> 01:10:33,732
Speaker 2: Is there any advice at all? And this is probably

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01:10:33,732 --> 01:10:35,893
Speaker 2: a tough thing to put on someone like yourself, so

1529
01:10:36,133 --> 01:10:37,732
Speaker 2: just tell me if you don't want to answer the question,

1530
01:10:37,812 --> 01:10:40,492
Speaker 2: But is there anything any words you should yell at

1531
01:10:40,572 --> 01:10:45,012
Speaker 2: someone that has you know, stabbed someone or attacked someone

1532
01:10:45,213 --> 01:10:48,772
Speaker 2: that that helped clear the scene? Is it helpful to

1533
01:10:48,812 --> 01:10:51,492
Speaker 2: stand back and go get out if you leave them alone?

1534
01:10:51,973 --> 01:10:52,093
Speaker 5: You know?

1535
01:10:52,572 --> 01:10:55,372
Speaker 2: Is there words that can help in that kind of situation?

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01:10:56,293 --> 01:10:58,333
Speaker 11: I think that's so unpredictable, isn't it. You're trying to

1537
01:10:58,812 --> 01:11:02,412
Speaker 11: understand the mental state and the motivation of the person

1538
01:11:02,492 --> 01:11:04,333
Speaker 11: that we think has actually caused that injury in the

1539
01:11:04,372 --> 01:11:09,172
Speaker 11: first place. I think that's very unpredictable. So I approach

1540
01:11:09,253 --> 01:11:12,532
Speaker 11: to it would be trying to withdraw myself from that

1541
01:11:12,692 --> 01:11:16,053
Speaker 11: scene to a safe distance, maybe keeping an eye on

1542
01:11:16,133 --> 01:11:18,452
Speaker 11: who the person is that we think is the offender,

1543
01:11:18,612 --> 01:11:22,132
Speaker 11: and calling to help. Trying to provide as much information

1544
01:11:22,293 --> 01:11:25,133
Speaker 11: as possible to the emergency service call that you're getting

1545
01:11:25,133 --> 01:11:27,932
Speaker 11: in touch with, but maintaining your own safety is really

1546
01:11:28,053 --> 01:11:30,013
Speaker 11: key here. We don't want you to be hurt.

1547
01:11:30,053 --> 01:11:32,612
Speaker 3: As part of this, we're speaking to Gareth Richards. He

1548
01:11:32,812 --> 01:11:35,452
Speaker 3: is a pre hospital and retrieval medicine doctors with the

1549
01:11:35,772 --> 01:11:39,933
Speaker 3: West Pat Rescue Helicopter. Gareth, say, you come across a

1550
01:11:40,452 --> 01:11:43,652
Speaker 3: traffic accident and clearly you've got some skills there that

1551
01:11:43,732 --> 01:11:45,893
Speaker 3: you can assist. I mean, is it not quite a

1552
01:11:45,933 --> 01:11:49,732
Speaker 3: similar thing. But that idea of taking that leadership approach

1553
01:11:49,893 --> 01:11:52,213
Speaker 3: and trying to manage what is going on around you

1554
01:11:52,293 --> 01:11:55,053
Speaker 3: when you've got those skills, is that something that needs

1555
01:11:55,093 --> 01:11:55,852
Speaker 3: to be taught as well.

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01:11:57,213 --> 01:12:00,253
Speaker 11: I think there's great opportunity there isn't there. So we've

1557
01:12:00,333 --> 01:12:04,492
Speaker 11: got a number of programs on television of pre hospital

1558
01:12:04,572 --> 01:12:08,452
Speaker 11: paramedic and helicopter responses. As someone sitting at home now

1559
01:12:08,532 --> 01:12:12,692
Speaker 11: watching those things on TV, there's an opportunity to have

1560
01:12:12,812 --> 01:12:15,133
Speaker 11: a think about how you might approach it if you

1561
01:12:15,293 --> 01:12:17,892
Speaker 11: came upon a scene like that, because that's the way

1562
01:12:17,893 --> 01:12:19,652
Speaker 11: it evolves. You're driving down the road, you see a

1563
01:12:19,692 --> 01:12:22,572
Speaker 11: car branch. The approach is the same is we want

1564
01:12:22,612 --> 01:12:24,892
Speaker 11: you to be safe. So the first thing is to stop,

1565
01:12:25,173 --> 01:12:28,572
Speaker 11: take a breath, and just get your head together to

1566
01:12:29,013 --> 01:12:32,652
Speaker 11: check that there's no danger to you specifically, so things

1567
01:12:32,732 --> 01:12:36,932
Speaker 11: like power lines that are down, things like fuel legs

1568
01:12:37,013 --> 01:12:40,213
Speaker 11: that may ignite around hot engines, for example, those things

1569
01:12:40,253 --> 01:12:43,172
Speaker 11: that are going to put you at danger oncoming traffic,

1570
01:12:43,333 --> 01:12:46,812
Speaker 11: so making sure that your car is protecting you from

1571
01:12:46,893 --> 01:12:51,572
Speaker 11: oncoming traffic, for example, identifying what the problem is, so

1572
01:12:51,732 --> 01:12:53,812
Speaker 11: who are the people that are injured, what are the

1573
01:12:53,933 --> 01:12:56,652
Speaker 11: number of those people, and then calling for help. Again

1574
01:12:56,732 --> 01:13:00,612
Speaker 11: this idea of getting emergency services activated early so that

1575
01:13:00,732 --> 01:13:03,133
Speaker 11: people can come to you. And if those are the

1576
01:13:03,253 --> 01:13:05,532
Speaker 11: first things that you can do and make sure everyone

1577
01:13:05,572 --> 01:13:08,212
Speaker 11: else is safe at the same time, then that response

1578
01:13:08,412 --> 01:13:12,012
Speaker 11: is already well underway to help the people that are injured.

1579
01:13:12,333 --> 01:13:16,253
Speaker 11: And then we get into the ABC type approach that

1580
01:13:16,372 --> 01:13:19,973
Speaker 11: we can talk about for resuscitation in CPR, and you

1581
01:13:20,093 --> 01:13:23,092
Speaker 11: may have covered already what about burns?

1582
01:13:24,372 --> 01:13:26,412
Speaker 2: What should do if you come across some with burns

1583
01:13:26,612 --> 01:13:29,372
Speaker 2: while you're waiting for other help to come. What's the

1584
01:13:29,452 --> 01:13:30,173
Speaker 2: current thinking on that.

1585
01:13:31,013 --> 01:13:34,053
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's a horrible idea that that terrible injuries are

1586
01:13:34,173 --> 01:13:39,532
Speaker 11: really confronting. They can be enormously painful for the people

1587
01:13:39,572 --> 01:13:43,372
Speaker 11: that the person that's been burnt again, the same same

1588
01:13:43,492 --> 01:13:46,812
Speaker 11: general approach, So is it safe to be involved? Who

1589
01:13:46,853 --> 01:13:49,013
Speaker 11: are the number of casualties? What sort of response are

1590
01:13:49,013 --> 01:13:51,972
Speaker 11: they able to give you? Making sure helps on the way.

1591
01:13:53,093 --> 01:13:58,812
Speaker 11: We provide often some fairly simple interventions for burn victims

1592
01:13:58,853 --> 01:14:01,333
Speaker 11: when we're transporting them, so will give them We'll do

1593
01:14:01,372 --> 01:14:04,972
Speaker 11: our resuscitation component, We'll add some pain relision. Simple things

1594
01:14:05,053 --> 01:14:08,692
Speaker 11: might be wrapping something like some lad wrapper around the

1595
01:14:09,053 --> 01:14:11,093
Speaker 11: burns as well to seal them off from the air.

1596
01:14:11,173 --> 01:14:13,492
Speaker 11: Not too tight, we don't want to affect the circulation

1597
01:14:13,652 --> 01:14:16,693
Speaker 11: to those limbs. But simple glad wrap is a surprising

1598
01:14:16,853 --> 01:14:19,492
Speaker 11: piece of first aid that we use, even on the helicopter.

1599
01:14:19,933 --> 01:14:23,333
Speaker 11: There are lots of different burns creams and dressings as well,

1600
01:14:24,253 --> 01:14:26,173
Speaker 11: but we like to keep things simple.

1601
01:14:26,853 --> 01:14:29,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you'd probably recommend people to have a decent

1602
01:14:29,572 --> 01:14:31,932
Speaker 2: first aid kit in their car and in their house.

1603
01:14:32,532 --> 01:14:35,692
Speaker 2: I imagine Gareth again, I think it's enormously useful.

1604
01:14:35,772 --> 01:14:38,852
Speaker 11: So the having the equipment, having an idea of how

1605
01:14:38,933 --> 01:14:41,052
Speaker 11: to use them, so that there's lots of different first

1606
01:14:41,093 --> 01:14:44,492
Speaker 11: aid courses that are taught s John offers them. There

1607
01:14:44,492 --> 01:14:49,692
Speaker 11: are private providers a first aid first aid courses. Having

1608
01:14:49,732 --> 01:14:51,532
Speaker 11: an idea of what's in your kit. It doesn't have

1609
01:14:51,652 --> 01:14:53,893
Speaker 11: to be all the bells and whistles, so just some

1610
01:14:54,053 --> 01:14:56,532
Speaker 11: simple things, like we said, maybe some gloves to protect you,

1611
01:14:57,492 --> 01:15:00,612
Speaker 11: to be able to stop some bleeding, an idea of

1612
01:15:00,732 --> 01:15:04,812
Speaker 11: how to do CPR, some simple first aid interventions, and

1613
01:15:04,893 --> 01:15:08,532
Speaker 11: maybe some simple pain relief, and we know where that

1614
01:15:08,692 --> 01:15:10,892
Speaker 11: is and how to access this, and what's in your kit,

1615
01:15:11,093 --> 01:15:13,412
Speaker 11: making sure that it's up to date and that you

1616
01:15:13,532 --> 01:15:15,133
Speaker 11: know how to use the things that are in there.

1617
01:15:15,173 --> 01:15:17,012
Speaker 11: It's better to be able to use a small number

1618
01:15:17,053 --> 01:15:19,933
Speaker 11: of things effectively than to have a whole bunch of

1619
01:15:20,133 --> 01:15:21,932
Speaker 11: things in your first A tip that you don't.

1620
01:15:21,732 --> 01:15:23,492
Speaker 2: Really know what to do with a couple of techs

1621
01:15:23,532 --> 01:15:26,213
Speaker 2: coming through here, what about choking? Can you ask them

1622
01:15:26,253 --> 01:15:26,892
Speaker 2: about choking?

1623
01:15:28,492 --> 01:15:28,772
Speaker 12: Choking?

1624
01:15:28,933 --> 01:15:31,812
Speaker 11: Yep, So again depends a little bit on the injury

1625
01:15:31,893 --> 01:15:34,612
Speaker 11: or what's the cause. But the approach again would be

1626
01:15:34,692 --> 01:15:38,452
Speaker 11: this very simple structured approach. So is there any danger

1627
01:15:38,492 --> 01:15:43,173
Speaker 11: to you? Is the patient responding? If not, then I'm

1628
01:15:43,253 --> 01:15:46,053
Speaker 11: calling for help. I'm getting those emergency services along the way.

1629
01:15:46,652 --> 01:15:50,133
Speaker 11: Some simple airway maneuvers would be to check inside the

1630
01:15:50,253 --> 01:15:52,852
Speaker 11: mouse and make sure there's nothing that's including the breathing,

1631
01:15:54,013 --> 01:15:56,692
Speaker 11: just that unresponsive. Can you get to get the whatever's

1632
01:15:56,732 --> 01:15:58,812
Speaker 11: in their mouth or the upper part of their throat

1633
01:15:58,973 --> 01:16:02,612
Speaker 11: out of the way. Does that help? And if they're

1634
01:16:02,652 --> 01:16:05,492
Speaker 11: not responding still, then we go down this pathway of

1635
01:16:05,853 --> 01:16:08,893
Speaker 11: the ABC type approach. I'm managing the airway, starting to

1636
01:16:08,973 --> 01:16:11,372
Speaker 11: do some supportive breathing and doing some CPR.

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01:16:11,732 --> 01:16:12,092
Speaker 5: Brilliant.

1638
01:16:12,253 --> 01:16:14,652
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Gareth and you guys do

1639
01:16:14,853 --> 01:16:16,892
Speaker 2: fantastic work. And there's a bunch of people just texting

1640
01:16:16,973 --> 01:16:19,053
Speaker 2: through thanking you for the great work you do at

1641
01:16:19,053 --> 01:16:20,572
Speaker 2: the Whisky Rescue helicopter.

1642
01:16:20,973 --> 01:16:23,733
Speaker 3: Great people. It is seven to three back very shortly.

1643
01:16:24,412 --> 01:16:26,812
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1644
01:16:26,853 --> 01:16:30,532
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news.

1645
01:16:30,452 --> 01:16:31,133
Speaker 2: Talk zai'd be.

1646
01:16:32,772 --> 01:16:35,372
Speaker 3: It is five to three We've had so many calls

1647
01:16:35,412 --> 01:16:36,732
Speaker 3: and texts on this, we're going to carry it on

1648
01:16:36,812 --> 01:16:39,412
Speaker 3: after three o'clock. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty

1649
01:16:39,532 --> 01:16:41,412
Speaker 3: is the number to call. Do you know First Aid

1650
01:16:41,492 --> 01:16:44,213
Speaker 3: CPR what to do if you're facing a situation where

1651
01:16:44,253 --> 01:16:46,852
Speaker 3: you may need to save somebody's life. As we've been

1652
01:16:47,093 --> 01:16:49,412
Speaker 3: chatting about all after the noon and in the morning,

1653
01:16:49,452 --> 01:16:52,572
Speaker 3: Taylor swift twelfth studio album, The Life of a Showgil

1654
01:16:52,692 --> 01:16:55,213
Speaker 3: It is to be released today at five pm. A

1655
01:16:55,293 --> 01:16:58,653
Speaker 3: huge amount of excitement around that, So we are celebrating

1656
01:16:58,732 --> 01:17:02,452
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift all afternoon and right now we are playing

1657
01:17:02,732 --> 01:17:06,012
Speaker 3: a song from her two thousand and nineteen album Lover.

1658
01:17:06,173 --> 01:17:08,852
Speaker 3: This was her first album away from Skoot Braun and

1659
01:17:08,933 --> 01:17:12,732
Speaker 3: Big Machine Records and was produced by Kiwi Joel Little,

1660
01:17:12,853 --> 01:17:15,492
Speaker 3: very talented man. Once again, it topped the charts around

1661
01:17:15,572 --> 01:17:19,652
Speaker 3: the world. So taking us to the news is Cruel Summer,

1662
01:17:19,692 --> 01:17:23,412
Speaker 3: which remains sweat'smost stream song on Spotify, worth get us

1663
01:17:23,452 --> 01:17:26,333
Speaker 3: more than three billion streams. We'll see you on the

1664
01:17:26,412 --> 01:17:27,253
Speaker 3: other side.

1665
01:18:08,772 --> 01:18:13,092
Speaker 1: Your new home for inscul and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

1666
01:18:13,333 --> 01:18:16,612
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk.

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01:18:16,532 --> 01:18:21,053
Speaker 3: Zebby afternoon to you. Welcome back into our final hour

1668
01:18:21,213 --> 01:18:24,053
Speaker 3: for this week, seven past three. So we've been having

1669
01:18:24,093 --> 01:18:27,053
Speaker 3: a great chat about first aid CPR. What skills do

1670
01:18:27,173 --> 01:18:29,532
Speaker 3: you know or should you know if you ever put

1671
01:18:29,572 --> 01:18:32,053
Speaker 3: in a situation where you may have to save someone's life.

1672
01:18:32,133 --> 01:18:35,173
Speaker 3: We had so many calls and texts came through that

1673
01:18:35,293 --> 01:18:36,932
Speaker 3: we are going to carry it on. So I'd love

1674
01:18:36,973 --> 01:18:38,892
Speaker 3: to hear your stories. On Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1675
01:18:39,133 --> 01:18:40,213
Speaker 3: ten eighty.

1676
01:18:40,452 --> 01:18:43,452
Speaker 2: The six says Westpac Helicopter are as you say, Matt,

1677
01:18:43,532 --> 01:18:47,012
Speaker 2: Great New Zealanders love that discussion with Gareth. I'm putting

1678
01:18:47,133 --> 01:18:49,652
Speaker 2: a glad rap in my car right now for burns.

1679
01:18:49,853 --> 01:18:52,732
Speaker 3: Nice, very good, right, So, oh eight hundred and eighty

1680
01:18:52,732 --> 01:18:54,732
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two ninety

1681
01:18:54,732 --> 01:18:57,293
Speaker 3: two is the text number right now, though it is

1682
01:18:57,452 --> 01:18:58,133
Speaker 3: a past three.

1683
01:18:58,492 --> 01:18:59,612
Speaker 1: Matt and Tyler.

1684
01:19:00,372 --> 01:19:02,852
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Matt and Tyler afternoons on ZB we

1685
01:19:03,013 --> 01:19:05,173
Speaker 2: name the New Zealander of the Week and honor that

1686
01:19:05,253 --> 01:19:07,812
Speaker 2: we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker who's had

1687
01:19:07,812 --> 01:19:12,213
Speaker 2: an outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation over

1688
01:19:12,293 --> 01:19:15,053
Speaker 2: the previous seven days. And as always there'd be.

1689
01:19:15,093 --> 01:19:18,692
Speaker 3: Two runners up, but just one winner, Who will it be?

1690
01:19:19,133 --> 01:19:23,372
Speaker 2: Without further ado and passing around the nominees for Matt

1691
01:19:23,412 --> 01:19:27,013
Speaker 2: and Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of the Week Ah The

1692
01:19:27,093 --> 01:19:28,652
Speaker 2: second runner up also gets the.

1693
01:19:36,652 --> 01:19:37,132
Speaker 11: Award.

1694
01:19:37,933 --> 01:19:40,013
Speaker 20: The part of a brewing company of Funger is a

1695
01:19:40,173 --> 01:19:44,213
Speaker 20: fantastic community hub and a house of joy for so many,

1696
01:19:44,692 --> 01:19:48,172
Speaker 20: but despite bending over backwards to appease the selfish haters,

1697
01:19:48,412 --> 01:19:50,732
Speaker 20: it has lost its right to sell alcohol to customers

1698
01:19:50,812 --> 01:19:53,812
Speaker 20: from December twenty A shame on the DLC with your

1699
01:19:53,973 --> 01:19:56,173
Speaker 20: humiliating phone app sound level tests.

1700
01:19:56,372 --> 01:19:58,772
Speaker 2: You need to remember that the needs of the many

1701
01:19:58,853 --> 01:20:02,333
Speaker 2: and the social outweigh the whining of the bitter, cloistered

1702
01:20:02,412 --> 01:20:05,812
Speaker 2: few or in this case two or potentially one, the

1703
01:20:05,933 --> 01:20:07,892
Speaker 2: part of a brewing company Funger Parour.

1704
01:20:08,333 --> 01:20:10,492
Speaker 3: Don't give up hope you will win your appel.

1705
01:20:10,893 --> 01:20:13,293
Speaker 2: You are doing great things for the community and you

1706
01:20:13,452 --> 01:20:14,972
Speaker 2: are second runner up for New.

1707
01:20:14,933 --> 01:20:18,293
Speaker 3: Zealander of the Week. Coerson.

1708
01:20:20,293 --> 01:20:25,372
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear one more? The first runner

1709
01:20:25,412 --> 01:20:29,692
Speaker 2: up also gets the Achievement Unlocked Award. You can waste

1710
01:20:29,732 --> 01:20:32,652
Speaker 2: your life on video games, but not these smart kiwis.

1711
01:20:32,692 --> 01:20:35,812
Speaker 2: They are making the buggers and bringing in hundreds of

1712
01:20:35,973 --> 01:20:39,652
Speaker 2: millions of dollars to our economy, thirty eight percent growth

1713
01:20:39,732 --> 01:20:43,452
Speaker 2: year on year and hiring more and more New Zealanders. Hey, government,

1714
01:20:43,492 --> 01:20:45,652
Speaker 2: if you're listening, let's give them all the support we

1715
01:20:45,772 --> 01:20:48,293
Speaker 2: can get before they have to say game over and

1716
01:20:48,412 --> 01:20:51,253
Speaker 2: piss off to Australia for the flash of rebates the.

1717
01:20:51,372 --> 01:20:53,012
Speaker 3: New Zealand gaming industry.

1718
01:20:53,652 --> 01:20:57,133
Speaker 2: You first runner up for New Zealander of the Week,

1719
01:21:06,213 --> 01:21:09,732
Speaker 2: but there can be only one, and the winner also

1720
01:21:09,853 --> 01:21:13,653
Speaker 2: gets the Passing Away with the Same Dignity and Positivity

1721
01:21:13,772 --> 01:21:17,253
Speaker 2: that you carry through your life award. He spent much

1722
01:21:17,293 --> 01:21:19,452
Speaker 2: of his working life in the dark lands with the

1723
01:21:19,612 --> 01:21:22,412
Speaker 2: sorts of scary people most of us would prefer to

1724
01:21:22,452 --> 01:21:25,892
Speaker 2: pretend didn't exist, but it didn't stop the man from

1725
01:21:25,973 --> 01:21:28,532
Speaker 2: bringing humor and positivity to the world.

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Speaker 3: His books have helped a.

1727
01:21:30,333 --> 01:21:32,973
Speaker 2: Huge amount of Kiwi parents through the tough job of

1728
01:21:33,013 --> 01:21:36,213
Speaker 2: bringing up kids. Everyone's seen one of his TV shows

1729
01:21:36,333 --> 01:21:40,412
Speaker 2: or his live appearances. He was great at so many things,

1730
01:21:40,452 --> 01:21:43,492
Speaker 2: but most important of all, he was a fantastic human

1731
01:21:43,572 --> 01:21:47,652
Speaker 2: being in his personal life. Gone too soon. You good,

1732
01:21:47,772 --> 01:21:51,612
Speaker 2: good man and great great New Zealander. As your wife

1733
01:21:51,692 --> 01:21:54,973
Speaker 2: Natalie put it, you spent your life helping others and

1734
01:21:55,612 --> 01:21:59,892
Speaker 2: now it's your time to rest. Nigel. Latter you are

1735
01:22:00,293 --> 01:22:04,532
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the Week, Take

1736
01:22:04,652 --> 01:22:05,092
Speaker 2: it away.

1737
01:22:05,293 --> 01:22:06,692
Speaker 3: Howie Morrison a.

1738
01:22:33,853 --> 01:22:39,452
Speaker 21: Very very special human, a person who was Mario. I

1739
01:22:39,492 --> 01:22:44,133
Speaker 21: would say, call ye call yeah. He was love and

1740
01:22:44,213 --> 01:22:48,572
Speaker 21: love with Nigel and a man of love. And I

1741
01:22:48,692 --> 01:22:51,492
Speaker 21: feel right at the moment I look at the response

1742
01:22:51,572 --> 01:22:54,772
Speaker 21: from the Prime Minister and all the responses that are

1743
01:22:54,812 --> 01:22:58,732
Speaker 21: happening around the country. Then, as Nearly said, she feels

1744
01:22:58,853 --> 01:23:03,173
Speaker 21: like a is giving Nigel one huge hug right now,

1745
01:23:03,652 --> 01:23:05,933
Speaker 21: and that's because of the man who he was.

1746
01:23:07,093 --> 01:23:10,612
Speaker 3: Would be very good Afternoons Tu it is fourteen past three,

1747
01:23:10,732 --> 01:23:13,012
Speaker 3: so we're getting back into our discussion about first aid

1748
01:23:13,173 --> 01:23:16,652
Speaker 3: and CPR. This is on the back of a young

1749
01:23:16,812 --> 01:23:20,652
Speaker 3: child who remarkably was saved by a lifeguard and by

1750
01:23:21,093 --> 01:23:23,213
Speaker 3: some people at the Paul and Mount Mong and Nui

1751
01:23:23,372 --> 01:23:26,532
Speaker 3: as well. It was the child was sent to tait

1752
01:23:26,572 --> 01:23:28,692
Speaker 3: on a houspital w in a critical condition, but thanks

1753
01:23:29,213 --> 01:23:32,052
Speaker 3: to the skills of that lifeguard and others, yeah, child's

1754
01:23:32,093 --> 01:23:32,772
Speaker 3: life has been saved.

1755
01:23:32,812 --> 01:23:35,253
Speaker 2: And as we were saying, I read the story and

1756
01:23:35,293 --> 01:23:37,372
Speaker 2: it struck me that if no lifeguard had been around

1757
01:23:37,412 --> 01:23:39,013
Speaker 2: at that point and I'd been there, then that kid

1758
01:23:39,053 --> 01:23:41,173
Speaker 2: would have been in huge amounts of trouble. And that

1759
01:23:41,333 --> 01:23:44,053
Speaker 2: just questions what kind of human being am I being?

1760
01:23:44,133 --> 01:23:46,852
Speaker 2: And what kind of New Zealand citizen am I being?

1761
01:23:46,893 --> 01:23:49,133
Speaker 2: If I haven't learned those details? So I want to

1762
01:23:49,173 --> 01:23:51,133
Speaker 2: do it. And we started talking about this and found

1763
01:23:51,133 --> 01:23:54,253
Speaker 2: out it was actually Shoctober. Yes, So in a great

1764
01:23:54,372 --> 01:23:58,893
Speaker 2: moment of synchronicity, sh October with Saint John's is on

1765
01:23:59,093 --> 01:24:02,013
Speaker 2: right now where you can contact them and get three

1766
01:24:02,093 --> 01:24:07,892
Speaker 2: one hour courses on CPR and first responding. So how

1767
01:24:07,933 --> 01:24:08,253
Speaker 2: good is that?

1768
01:24:08,572 --> 01:24:09,933
Speaker 3: No excuse? Yeah, get onto that.

1769
01:24:10,333 --> 01:24:13,932
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the question really is, you know, how prepared

1770
01:24:13,973 --> 01:24:16,133
Speaker 2: should you be? You know, is it your obligation as

1771
01:24:16,173 --> 01:24:18,812
Speaker 2: a citizen to go out there and be able to

1772
01:24:19,133 --> 01:24:22,972
Speaker 2: deal with these kinds of situations. This is a text

1773
01:24:23,013 --> 01:24:26,932
Speaker 2: that's come through that is just so, you know, proves

1774
01:24:26,973 --> 01:24:29,372
Speaker 2: the point. Really, I was saved by a stranger, still

1775
01:24:29,412 --> 01:24:32,212
Speaker 2: in touch. Fifteen years later, I get the man birthday

1776
01:24:32,412 --> 01:24:36,253
Speaker 2: and Christmas presents, So lucky someone new CPR was there,

1777
01:24:36,933 --> 01:24:40,932
Speaker 2: So blessed, so grateful. His name was Stephen. He's from Dunedin.

1778
01:24:41,013 --> 01:24:43,012
Speaker 3: Oh that is lovely lovely.

1779
01:24:43,053 --> 01:24:45,452
Speaker 2: If you're in particular Stephen from Dunedin, then you're listening.

1780
01:24:46,053 --> 01:24:46,492
Speaker 2: Good on you.

1781
01:24:46,692 --> 01:24:48,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, great New Zealander clearly.

1782
01:24:48,372 --> 01:24:52,173
Speaker 2: Oh thirty presents in total so far, and thank you.

1783
01:24:52,293 --> 01:24:54,173
Speaker 3: Very good nudge. He deserves everyone who's been.

1784
01:24:54,053 --> 01:24:56,412
Speaker 2: A Birthday and Christmas present for him for fifteen years.

1785
01:24:56,532 --> 01:24:57,253
Speaker 2: Yeah thirty.

1786
01:24:57,293 --> 01:25:00,333
Speaker 3: It's a good haul. Yeah, yea, Daves with it just

1787
01:25:00,372 --> 01:25:01,692
Speaker 3: for the present, Yeah, exactly.

1788
01:25:02,492 --> 01:25:03,572
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Dave.

1789
01:25:04,452 --> 01:25:05,333
Speaker 18: Oh good eight fellows.

1790
01:25:05,492 --> 01:25:09,093
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, pretty good. You better than you were

1791
01:25:09,333 --> 01:25:10,732
Speaker 2: when the incident went down.

1792
01:25:11,812 --> 01:25:15,173
Speaker 18: Yeah, mate, it was well, I don't remember much, but yeah,

1793
01:25:15,612 --> 01:25:18,652
Speaker 18: just to illuminate the terrain for the listeners. I last year,

1794
01:25:18,772 --> 01:25:21,333
Speaker 18: January fourteenth, last year, I had a kadak arrest at

1795
01:25:21,372 --> 01:25:27,973
Speaker 18: three o'clock in the morning and my partner resuscitated me

1796
01:25:28,053 --> 01:25:31,133
Speaker 18: with CPRS. I was gone for fifteen minutes and then

1797
01:25:31,213 --> 01:25:35,012
Speaker 18: the Ambos and firebrigate arrived and continued on the task

1798
01:25:35,093 --> 01:25:39,452
Speaker 18: and woke up five days later in cross Each hospital.

1799
01:25:40,173 --> 01:25:43,532
Speaker 2: Wow, and good on your partner, and thank goodness that

1800
01:25:43,772 --> 01:25:46,253
Speaker 2: she knew what she was doing to keep you going.

1801
01:25:46,372 --> 01:25:49,093
Speaker 2: So you didn't you were you had the arrest? Were

1802
01:25:49,133 --> 01:25:50,173
Speaker 2: you asleep when it happened.

1803
01:25:50,812 --> 01:25:53,452
Speaker 18: Yep, I was gone to dead mate. I was ka,

1804
01:25:54,213 --> 01:25:58,452
Speaker 18: I was ka gone wow intense purposes. If I hadn't

1805
01:25:58,732 --> 01:26:01,452
Speaker 18: if she hadn't woken up and heard, excuse me, the

1806
01:26:01,973 --> 01:26:04,732
Speaker 18: bit of the gurgling going on and so forth, the

1807
01:26:04,812 --> 01:26:07,133
Speaker 18: so called death rad, all I would have she would

1808
01:26:07,173 --> 01:26:10,253
Speaker 18: wake it up and been planning what color coffin?

1809
01:26:10,253 --> 01:26:10,972
Speaker 5: I would have been having.

1810
01:26:11,492 --> 01:26:11,732
Speaker 4: Wow.

1811
01:26:12,053 --> 01:26:15,293
Speaker 2: And when five days later you woke up in the hospital,

1812
01:26:15,452 --> 01:26:17,812
Speaker 2: what were the conversations, like, what were the questions you're asking?

1813
01:26:17,893 --> 01:26:20,973
Speaker 2: There must have been incredibly discombobulating.

1814
01:26:21,893 --> 01:26:22,572
Speaker 5: I was made.

1815
01:26:22,612 --> 01:26:25,652
Speaker 18: It was unbelievable. I didn't have a clue what would happened.

1816
01:26:25,732 --> 01:26:28,532
Speaker 18: I was basically I woke up and I had tubes

1817
01:26:28,572 --> 01:26:31,213
Speaker 18: coming out of me and lights flashing and all sorts

1818
01:26:31,253 --> 01:26:36,173
Speaker 18: of you know, the usual pilava and so yeah, that

1819
01:26:36,333 --> 01:26:36,933
Speaker 18: was that was it.

1820
01:26:37,173 --> 01:26:41,772
Speaker 4: So I was, Yeah, my life was all.

1821
01:26:41,652 --> 01:26:46,173
Speaker 18: But over, having but saved by the partner. Yeah, who

1822
01:26:47,253 --> 01:26:50,372
Speaker 18: you know did the CPR for fifteen minutes by herself.

1823
01:26:51,053 --> 01:26:53,572
Speaker 3: It would have been terrifying for her for that fifteen

1824
01:26:53,612 --> 01:26:56,213
Speaker 3: minutes while the ambos came. I'd take it she had

1825
01:26:56,253 --> 01:26:58,572
Speaker 3: some skills in that area, or she she had enough

1826
01:26:59,093 --> 01:27:00,692
Speaker 3: that she knew what she needed to try and do.

1827
01:27:01,572 --> 01:27:01,772
Speaker 5: Well.

1828
01:27:01,853 --> 01:27:02,973
Speaker 18: Look, you know, I'll be straight up.

1829
01:27:03,053 --> 01:27:07,372
Speaker 3: She's actually a doctor that helps, but helps.

1830
01:27:08,812 --> 01:27:09,732
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I can do.

1831
01:27:11,133 --> 01:27:15,652
Speaker 18: But look, you know I have come from a back.

1832
01:27:16,213 --> 01:27:16,932
Speaker 5: A few years back.

1833
01:27:17,013 --> 01:27:20,012
Speaker 18: I was on Ambo. I performed CPR on a taxi

1834
01:27:20,133 --> 01:27:23,852
Speaker 18: driver who had a cardiac arrest and he's still holding

1835
01:27:23,853 --> 01:27:26,053
Speaker 18: his cup of coffee when he went down. Look, unfortunately

1836
01:27:26,173 --> 01:27:29,173
Speaker 18: that guy did not survive. I like to think it

1837
01:27:29,253 --> 01:27:32,612
Speaker 18: wasn't my fault, but he was. You know, he had

1838
01:27:32,732 --> 01:27:35,692
Speaker 18: hit a massive my cardio in flaction and he died

1839
01:27:36,093 --> 01:27:39,173
Speaker 18: literally before he hit the ground. So I kind of

1840
01:27:39,253 --> 01:27:42,053
Speaker 18: get both into that speech room. I performed CPR on

1841
01:27:42,173 --> 01:27:44,652
Speaker 18: him for ten or fifteen twelve minutes. I think it

1842
01:27:44,812 --> 01:27:49,572
Speaker 18: was so Yeah. Look, just to Honeing on your point,

1843
01:27:50,333 --> 01:27:52,372
Speaker 18: everyone should have some sort of basic training at the

1844
01:27:52,532 --> 01:27:55,692
Speaker 18: very least no CPR. And if you do no CPR,

1845
01:27:56,893 --> 01:27:59,612
Speaker 18: then you know, you know, keep up, keep up the

1846
01:27:59,652 --> 01:28:02,652
Speaker 18: practice because things have changed, you know, things are constantly changing.

1847
01:28:03,293 --> 01:28:05,852
Speaker 18: There's a great app that you can download called good

1848
01:28:05,973 --> 01:28:09,213
Speaker 18: Sam And if you're a CPR our exponent, you know

1849
01:28:09,333 --> 01:28:11,132
Speaker 18: that you can download the app and it will alert

1850
01:28:11,173 --> 01:28:13,253
Speaker 18: you to someone having a cardiac arrest within about a

1851
01:28:13,293 --> 01:28:15,692
Speaker 18: thousand meters of you. So if you want to respond

1852
01:28:15,732 --> 01:28:19,732
Speaker 18: to that, it's totally voluntary, it's totally free, and that's

1853
01:28:19,933 --> 01:28:22,213
Speaker 18: that's another kind of cool thing to have. And as

1854
01:28:22,293 --> 01:28:24,892
Speaker 18: well as the ad locations, you could download that app

1855
01:28:24,933 --> 01:28:30,093
Speaker 18: as well. But it's that first called it's called good Sam.

1856
01:28:30,173 --> 01:28:34,213
Speaker 2: Good Sam good Okay Samaritan, Yeah, good Sam, good Sam.

1857
01:28:34,333 --> 01:28:36,692
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's called good Sam Responder. You can download off

1858
01:28:37,572 --> 01:28:42,133
Speaker 18: your you Play Store or the Apple Store App store

1859
01:28:43,213 --> 01:28:45,972
Speaker 18: and yeah, look it's just you can download your phone.

1860
01:28:46,133 --> 01:28:48,652
Speaker 18: You keep it open if you're if you want to

1861
01:28:49,173 --> 01:28:52,173
Speaker 18: be part of that community, someone has a cardiac or

1862
01:28:52,213 --> 01:28:55,893
Speaker 18: suspect the cardiac arrest, that you'll get the alert and

1863
01:28:55,973 --> 01:28:59,972
Speaker 18: you can actually respond if you want to. But look,

1864
01:29:00,053 --> 01:29:03,412
Speaker 18: it's definitely important. You don't know, I mean, I'm not

1865
01:29:04,372 --> 01:29:06,692
Speaker 18: I didn't have any I didn't have any signs prior

1866
01:29:06,772 --> 01:29:08,973
Speaker 18: to my cardiac arrest. I didn't I didn't have the

1867
01:29:09,093 --> 01:29:12,213
Speaker 18: left hand, the left shoulder, draw sort of pain and

1868
01:29:12,253 --> 01:29:14,572
Speaker 18: all that sort of sweating, you know, like they show

1869
01:29:14,612 --> 01:29:17,372
Speaker 18: on the TV ads. My pain was on my right side,

1870
01:29:17,732 --> 01:29:21,053
Speaker 18: so that totally you know, I didn't think, oh, I'm

1871
01:29:21,093 --> 01:29:24,093
Speaker 18: not having a categorist. You know, I didn't really there's

1872
01:29:24,133 --> 01:29:27,692
Speaker 18: no signs, so you don't know, mate, I never know

1873
01:29:27,772 --> 01:29:29,173
Speaker 18: when it's going to you know, when that sort of

1874
01:29:29,213 --> 01:29:30,213
Speaker 18: thing's going to happen.

1875
01:29:30,732 --> 01:29:33,293
Speaker 2: What a unique position you are in life, Dave, that

1876
01:29:33,452 --> 01:29:36,932
Speaker 2: you've both attempted to save someone with a fifteen minute

1877
01:29:37,652 --> 01:29:41,772
Speaker 2: CPR and been saved by it. So I know, So

1878
01:29:42,013 --> 01:29:46,013
Speaker 2: what was the feeling like when you're working, you know,

1879
01:29:46,133 --> 01:29:49,213
Speaker 2: working on this person that's gone down, this taxi driver

1880
01:29:50,013 --> 01:29:53,692
Speaker 2: and you must have started to know that it might

1881
01:29:53,812 --> 01:29:56,652
Speaker 2: not be working, but you're still going. Took us through

1882
01:29:57,173 --> 01:30:00,652
Speaker 2: the emotions of that and how that all played out,

1883
01:30:00,692 --> 01:30:01,572
Speaker 2: if you don't mind.

1884
01:30:02,213 --> 01:30:02,692
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure.

1885
01:30:02,732 --> 01:30:04,933
Speaker 18: Look I was off dirty at the time, and I

1886
01:30:05,093 --> 01:30:08,572
Speaker 18: was in Bledhem and where I lived then, and look

1887
01:30:08,572 --> 01:30:10,053
Speaker 18: I've filled him up a car with gas and a

1888
01:30:10,133 --> 01:30:13,213
Speaker 18: woman comes running out and from the little taxi office

1889
01:30:13,213 --> 01:30:16,173
Speaker 18: in Queen Street and blend him saying, look, Bill's you

1890
01:30:16,213 --> 01:30:19,772
Speaker 18: know collapse. Anyway, the feeling was just total, you know.

1891
01:30:19,812 --> 01:30:22,372
Speaker 18: I tried to kick into you know, automation, you know

1892
01:30:22,452 --> 01:30:24,532
Speaker 18: that I need I know what I need to do.

1893
01:30:24,933 --> 01:30:28,013
Speaker 18: And seeing the man lying down there, you know, he was,

1894
01:30:28,452 --> 01:30:30,612
Speaker 18: like I said, he still had his cup of coffee

1895
01:30:30,612 --> 01:30:32,652
Speaker 18: in his hand. He sort of gripped at coffee, wasn't

1896
01:30:32,692 --> 01:30:35,212
Speaker 18: in it. He was on the ground doing the CPR.

1897
01:30:35,492 --> 01:30:38,812
Speaker 18: Was just it's very intense, and anyone who's done CPR

1898
01:30:38,973 --> 01:30:42,612
Speaker 18: on a person knows this. You just try and do

1899
01:30:42,732 --> 01:30:45,253
Speaker 18: your best. And you know, am I pushing too hard?

1900
01:30:45,253 --> 01:30:47,532
Speaker 18: Am I pushing too soft? Should I keep breathing? Should

1901
01:30:47,532 --> 01:30:49,612
Speaker 18: I breathe into his mouth? It's all of those things

1902
01:30:49,692 --> 01:30:53,492
Speaker 18: going through your head constantly because you want that man,

1903
01:30:53,572 --> 01:30:55,133
Speaker 18: you want that guy to live, You want that person

1904
01:30:55,213 --> 01:30:58,852
Speaker 18: to live. And as I said earlier, unfortunately, you know,

1905
01:30:59,053 --> 01:31:03,932
Speaker 18: his event was very very Yeah, it was pretty serious obviously,

1906
01:31:03,973 --> 01:31:07,372
Speaker 18: and he passed away on front of me because he

1907
01:31:07,452 --> 01:31:11,213
Speaker 18: was in chained to what will change stokes respiration, which

1908
01:31:11,293 --> 01:31:14,572
Speaker 18: basically is as the old, the old, the old description

1909
01:31:14,652 --> 01:31:15,492
Speaker 18: there as a death rattle.

1910
01:31:16,213 --> 01:31:18,372
Speaker 5: And you know, it was just horrible.

1911
01:31:18,452 --> 01:31:22,773
Speaker 18: But you know, I gave it a go, and everyone

1912
01:31:22,853 --> 01:31:25,293
Speaker 18: should just give it a go. Don't be afraid, don't

1913
01:31:25,372 --> 01:31:29,572
Speaker 18: ever be afraid. But I do heartily recommend everyone and

1914
01:31:29,933 --> 01:31:32,093
Speaker 18: my company that I work for now we've all done

1915
01:31:32,093 --> 01:31:35,532
Speaker 18: the first aid course and everyone should do it at

1916
01:31:35,572 --> 01:31:38,372
Speaker 18: some stage of their life. Earlier, you know them later,

1917
01:31:39,572 --> 01:31:43,612
Speaker 18: for your children, for your partner, and for just for

1918
01:31:43,772 --> 01:31:45,052
Speaker 18: the other people.

1919
01:31:45,532 --> 01:31:48,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well said Dave. And look, I'm so glad

1920
01:31:49,013 --> 01:31:52,412
Speaker 2: that your your partner was there hand able to do that,

1921
01:31:53,253 --> 01:31:56,372
Speaker 2: because you seem like a fantastic human being and it's

1922
01:31:56,412 --> 01:31:58,772
Speaker 2: just so great to to have you with us.

1923
01:31:59,572 --> 01:32:01,412
Speaker 18: Oh thanks very much, bro, And look at and you

1924
01:32:01,492 --> 01:32:05,132
Speaker 18: know what, Yeah, I'm eternally grateful obviously to my partner

1925
01:32:05,173 --> 01:32:08,532
Speaker 18: and apparently the big husky fireman who broke you know,

1926
01:32:08,612 --> 01:32:12,092
Speaker 18: my ribs, you know, he was I think my partner

1927
01:32:12,133 --> 01:32:13,933
Speaker 18: had got had a crush on him as well, so

1928
01:32:14,333 --> 01:32:17,333
Speaker 18: I kind of nearly lost two things, you know, big

1929
01:32:18,093 --> 01:32:19,892
Speaker 18: big handsome fireman.

1930
01:32:20,492 --> 01:32:24,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the looeah to compete with some of those

1931
01:32:25,333 --> 01:32:26,293
Speaker 3: Do they have a big mustache?

1932
01:32:27,133 --> 01:32:28,692
Speaker 18: He did, mate, you know, and.

1933
01:32:30,452 --> 01:32:31,652
Speaker 3: I've seen them in the calendars.

1934
01:32:32,173 --> 01:32:36,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeh off, just's just the suspend, you know, the

1935
01:32:36,612 --> 01:32:37,333
Speaker 2: suspenders on.

1936
01:32:37,933 --> 01:32:40,333
Speaker 3: The beat of Sweet of him. Yeah, yeah, we got.

1937
01:32:40,253 --> 01:32:42,852
Speaker 18: Apparently apparently we was walking through the door. It was

1938
01:32:42,853 --> 01:32:45,652
Speaker 18: all the slow maged to her and Sweet were coming down,

1939
01:32:46,253 --> 01:32:48,213
Speaker 18: you know exactly shirtless my god.

1940
01:32:48,372 --> 01:32:51,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you can forgive him from because he saved you,

1941
01:32:51,933 --> 01:32:52,732
Speaker 2: but still stay away.

1942
01:32:53,812 --> 01:32:56,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, right, thanks for your call. Dave Great

1943
01:32:56,732 --> 01:32:58,612
Speaker 3: cal oh eight hundred eighty ten eighties number to call.

1944
01:32:58,652 --> 01:33:02,092
Speaker 3: Love to hear your experiences. If you're like Dave, needed

1945
01:33:02,133 --> 01:33:04,612
Speaker 3: someone to perform CPR on you, or you were the

1946
01:33:04,692 --> 01:33:07,093
Speaker 3: one doing the CPR. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighties.

1947
01:33:07,133 --> 01:33:09,213
Speaker 3: The number to call twenty four past three.

1948
01:33:13,213 --> 01:33:16,572
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1949
01:33:16,652 --> 01:33:19,692
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news talk Z'd be very good afternoon.

1950
01:33:19,732 --> 01:33:21,772
Speaker 3: Would you know how to save someone's life if you're

1951
01:33:21,893 --> 01:33:23,812
Speaker 3: in that situation? Love to hear from you on Oh

1952
01:33:23,812 --> 01:33:26,892
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. So many texts coming through

1953
01:33:27,652 --> 01:33:31,692
Speaker 3: about incidents that people have found themselves in. Hello Matt

1954
01:33:31,692 --> 01:33:35,012
Speaker 3: and Tyler. I found an extremely comprehensive first aid manual

1955
01:33:35,053 --> 01:33:37,293
Speaker 3: and a second hand book sale ninth edition First Aid

1956
01:33:37,372 --> 01:33:41,133
Speaker 3: described as the UK's only fully authorized guide, written by

1957
01:33:41,213 --> 01:33:44,652
Speaker 3: Saint John Ambulance. It is a fantastic read and I'd

1958
01:33:44,692 --> 01:33:49,173
Speaker 3: recommend it to everybody. And this one another cardiac arrest survivor. Here,

1959
01:33:49,213 --> 01:33:50,972
Speaker 3: I dropped dead in front of my six and seven

1960
01:33:51,053 --> 01:33:53,372
Speaker 3: year old kids back in two thousand and seven, aged

1961
01:33:53,492 --> 01:33:56,412
Speaker 3: just thirty five. Very blessed to still be here. Wellington

1962
01:33:56,492 --> 01:33:59,852
Speaker 3: Free Ambulance has free A D and CPR training all

1963
01:33:59,933 --> 01:34:00,293
Speaker 3: year round.

1964
01:34:00,492 --> 01:34:02,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've just downloaded those two apps. They're the

1965
01:34:02,973 --> 01:34:07,213
Speaker 2: good Sam app, which is the good Sam respond To

1966
01:34:07,253 --> 01:34:10,972
Speaker 2: app with allthough details in it and that Dave was suggesting,

1967
01:34:11,053 --> 01:34:16,053
Speaker 2: and the AED Location app. So I recommend everyone does that.

1968
01:34:16,532 --> 01:34:18,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to get onto that right now as well.

1969
01:34:18,893 --> 01:34:21,213
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty see numbered call.

1970
01:34:21,333 --> 01:34:25,572
Speaker 2: Well there's lots around us, tyler AEDs. They're everywhere, are they?

1971
01:34:25,572 --> 01:34:27,772
Speaker 3: They're not locked up, are they? It's not like break

1972
01:34:27,853 --> 01:34:29,612
Speaker 3: glass to get your AED. I think you can just

1973
01:34:29,652 --> 01:34:31,692
Speaker 3: open it up and that mate.

1974
01:34:31,612 --> 01:34:32,492
Speaker 2: We're surrounded by them.

1975
01:34:32,532 --> 01:34:34,933
Speaker 3: Oh ready to go? Yeah that makes me feel a

1976
01:34:35,013 --> 01:34:35,772
Speaker 3: lot more comfortable.

1977
01:34:35,893 --> 01:34:36,093
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1978
01:34:36,532 --> 01:34:38,492
Speaker 3: So if anyone's used one, love to hear from you

1979
01:34:38,732 --> 01:34:40,933
Speaker 3: how because I think once you get it out and

1980
01:34:41,013 --> 01:34:43,652
Speaker 3: then it's almost like constructions pop up on the screen.

1981
01:34:43,812 --> 01:34:44,253
Speaker 5: Oh does it?

1982
01:34:44,692 --> 01:34:48,173
Speaker 2: Yep? The the instructions pop up on the screen and

1983
01:34:48,253 --> 01:34:50,412
Speaker 2: it also talks to you, talks you through it, and

1984
01:34:50,532 --> 01:34:52,253
Speaker 2: it also tells you if the person needs it, so

1985
01:34:52,293 --> 01:34:53,732
Speaker 2: you put it on them and it tells you what

1986
01:34:53,812 --> 01:34:53,933
Speaker 2: to do.

1987
01:34:54,053 --> 01:34:57,893
Speaker 3: You know, that's clever. Chris, so well, speaking of AEDs,

1988
01:34:58,692 --> 01:35:00,253
Speaker 3: you've had one save your life.

1989
01:35:01,812 --> 01:35:03,612
Speaker 11: Here, guys, how are you very good?

1990
01:35:03,772 --> 01:35:04,492
Speaker 3: Tell us a story.

1991
01:35:06,492 --> 01:35:09,333
Speaker 22: So mine's sort of the next step up from CPR.

1992
01:35:09,452 --> 01:35:12,852
Speaker 22: They had a good friend with me when I started

1993
01:35:12,893 --> 01:35:15,612
Speaker 22: to struggle, and he called an ambulance and they came

1994
01:35:15,692 --> 01:35:19,133
Speaker 22: and my heart was running about two point fifty. They

1995
01:35:19,612 --> 01:35:22,812
Speaker 22: shocked me, No game, you kidded me and actually stopped

1996
01:35:22,812 --> 01:35:24,612
Speaker 22: my heart, and then they shocked me to bring me back,

1997
01:35:24,853 --> 01:35:27,053
Speaker 22: took me to a hospital where I then stayed for

1998
01:35:27,532 --> 01:35:33,652
Speaker 22: two weeks, and I ended up having an internal defibrillator fitted.

1999
01:35:34,412 --> 01:35:37,133
Speaker 22: So I've got my own one on demand almost and

2000
01:35:37,732 --> 01:35:40,732
Speaker 22: that has saved my life five times.

2001
01:35:41,412 --> 01:35:44,772
Speaker 2: Wow. Does that go off on its own, detect a

2002
01:35:45,053 --> 01:35:46,692
Speaker 2: situation and sort it out or do you have to

2003
01:35:46,772 --> 01:35:47,612
Speaker 2: activate it? Chris?

2004
01:35:49,053 --> 01:35:52,572
Speaker 22: Now, I've got a couple of things wrong with my heart.

2005
01:35:52,652 --> 01:35:55,213
Speaker 22: The main one is a rhythmia which pushes me into

2006
01:35:55,853 --> 01:35:59,253
Speaker 22: was called me intrichul attack cardio and when that happens,

2007
01:35:59,732 --> 01:36:02,333
Speaker 22: your heart needs to be shocked, and the device will.

2008
01:36:03,133 --> 01:36:05,772
Speaker 22: It's a two and one. It's a peacemaker and a

2009
01:36:06,093 --> 01:36:11,933
Speaker 22: defibrillator and it will. It will work to try to

2010
01:36:13,013 --> 01:36:15,852
Speaker 22: sort you out. Without giving you a shock for probably

2011
01:36:16,013 --> 01:36:19,452
Speaker 22: twenty or thirty seconds, and then when you actually need one,

2012
01:36:19,692 --> 01:36:22,293
Speaker 22: that will give you a shock and it's not nice.

2013
01:36:23,412 --> 01:36:24,253
Speaker 3: What does that feel like?

2014
01:36:27,093 --> 01:36:29,173
Speaker 22: And Swiss and hanging on to an electric fence?

2015
01:36:29,412 --> 01:36:29,692
Speaker 3: Okay?

2016
01:36:30,612 --> 01:36:30,812
Speaker 2: Right?

2017
01:36:31,013 --> 01:36:31,173
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2018
01:36:31,213 --> 01:36:34,812
Speaker 2: And then and then and now you go, you go, Chris,

2019
01:36:35,093 --> 01:36:35,333
Speaker 2: you go.

2020
01:36:36,093 --> 01:36:39,452
Speaker 22: The old the old days, you know when carsaid coils

2021
01:36:39,492 --> 01:36:40,852
Speaker 22: and that if you've got to whack off of a

2022
01:36:40,933 --> 01:36:43,133
Speaker 22: coil or a spark plug sort of like, that may

2023
01:36:43,173 --> 01:36:43,812
Speaker 22: be a bit worse.

2024
01:36:44,812 --> 01:36:48,213
Speaker 2: And and once it goes off, Chris, what is what

2025
01:36:48,372 --> 01:36:48,852
Speaker 2: happens to you?

2026
01:36:48,973 --> 01:36:49,173
Speaker 5: Then?

2027
01:36:49,492 --> 01:36:52,333
Speaker 2: At that point are you are you able to operate still?

2028
01:36:52,452 --> 01:36:55,932
Speaker 2: How long are you out down for when that happens.

2029
01:36:56,053 --> 01:37:01,333
Speaker 22: I'm well, I work backwards to that one. Currently I'm good,

2030
01:37:01,492 --> 01:37:03,612
Speaker 22: have been for about a year because I'm being controlled

2031
01:37:03,652 --> 01:37:04,252
Speaker 22: by medication.

2032
01:37:04,612 --> 01:37:04,812
Speaker 2: Yep.

2033
01:37:05,732 --> 01:37:07,933
Speaker 22: There's always a fear of it going off. But you

2034
01:37:08,492 --> 01:37:12,933
Speaker 22: learn within yourself when once my blood pressure drops and

2035
01:37:13,173 --> 01:37:16,173
Speaker 22: I start to feel a bit queasy or you know,

2036
01:37:16,412 --> 01:37:19,532
Speaker 22: just off, I know, to get sitting down somewhere on

2037
01:37:19,652 --> 01:37:24,013
Speaker 22: the ground and then you're not well if you like,

2038
01:37:24,213 --> 01:37:27,253
Speaker 22: for two, three, four, five minutes, and then it shocks you.

2039
01:37:28,133 --> 01:37:30,612
Speaker 22: And my wife always says she can't believe it because

2040
01:37:30,812 --> 01:37:33,333
Speaker 22: after the shot, within two minutes, I'm like, normal.

2041
01:37:34,133 --> 01:37:36,012
Speaker 6: Wow, I'm back.

2042
01:37:36,452 --> 01:37:38,053
Speaker 3: It's incredible technology, isn't it.

2043
01:37:39,612 --> 01:37:39,732
Speaker 5: Oh?

2044
01:37:39,933 --> 01:37:41,852
Speaker 22: It is, and I wouldn't be here without it.

2045
01:37:42,772 --> 01:37:46,173
Speaker 2: Well, I'm so pleased you've got that nine lives off them.

2046
01:37:46,293 --> 01:37:46,532
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2047
01:37:46,933 --> 01:37:50,852
Speaker 2: Well, I mean and sometimes, you know, you just marvel

2048
01:37:50,933 --> 01:37:54,973
Speaker 2: that the age we live in for these things to

2049
01:37:55,053 --> 01:37:57,572
Speaker 2: be to be possible, Chris, because you know, it's great

2050
01:37:57,612 --> 01:37:59,292
Speaker 2: to have you on the planet at the moment.

2051
01:37:59,173 --> 01:38:02,013
Speaker 3: Absolutely so, just as a layman, Chris. You mentioned too,

2052
01:38:02,133 --> 01:38:03,612
Speaker 3: it was you know, at one point your heart was

2053
01:38:03,652 --> 01:38:06,412
Speaker 3: hitting two hundred and fifty beats per minute. Because I

2054
01:38:06,452 --> 01:38:08,612
Speaker 3: don't know too much about you know, cardia kari store

2055
01:38:08,732 --> 01:38:11,013
Speaker 3: or how it works. So does it get to the

2056
01:38:11,093 --> 01:38:13,852
Speaker 3: point where effectively your heart is about to fail?

2057
01:38:16,013 --> 01:38:19,933
Speaker 22: Yeah, well I haven't had a cardiak of rest or

2058
01:38:19,933 --> 01:38:24,772
Speaker 22: a stroke. I've got my hat goes into ventricular attacked cardia.

2059
01:38:24,893 --> 01:38:27,492
Speaker 22: So what that does is it beats, and it thinks

2060
01:38:27,572 --> 01:38:29,772
Speaker 22: it's not pumping, so it just beats faster and faster

2061
01:38:29,853 --> 01:38:34,333
Speaker 22: and faster, and it can't beat anymore. So you know,

2062
01:38:34,572 --> 01:38:37,333
Speaker 22: I stopped wearing a smart watch because my smart watch

2063
01:38:37,372 --> 01:38:41,372
Speaker 22: said that I was at about sixty, but I didn't

2064
01:38:41,412 --> 01:38:45,572
Speaker 22: feel right, so I don't believe those things anymore. The

2065
01:38:45,612 --> 01:38:48,612
Speaker 22: ambulance came, they checked me out. Soon she saw me.

2066
01:38:48,732 --> 01:38:51,452
Speaker 22: She was pretty sure she knew what was wrong. Put

2067
01:38:51,492 --> 01:38:53,452
Speaker 22: me in the ambulance. And I actually said from I

2068
01:38:53,532 --> 01:38:55,532
Speaker 22: going to die today? She said, no, if not, what

2069
01:38:55,692 --> 01:38:58,372
Speaker 22: we're here, that is a hell of an amber.

2070
01:38:58,372 --> 01:38:58,572
Speaker 18: Hope.

2071
01:38:58,652 --> 01:39:00,133
Speaker 3: I mean that's what you want to hear for those

2072
01:39:00,293 --> 01:39:01,133
Speaker 3: those paramedics.

2073
01:39:02,093 --> 01:39:06,293
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, absolutely all three then that came over my life.

2074
01:39:06,612 --> 01:39:10,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, great people, great heroes. Yeah, Chris, thank you so

2075
01:39:10,452 --> 01:39:13,213
Speaker 2: much for bringing and sharing his story and absolutely all

2076
01:39:13,213 --> 01:39:13,532
Speaker 2: the best.

2077
01:39:14,772 --> 01:39:16,293
Speaker 22: Yeah, jeez, Gray everyone sharing.

2078
01:39:16,492 --> 01:39:18,893
Speaker 3: No, you're a good man, Chris, thank you very much, Soberen.

2079
01:39:18,973 --> 01:39:22,053
Speaker 3: But yeah, important to hear right headlines with Raylene coming

2080
01:39:22,133 --> 01:39:23,692
Speaker 3: up there and we're taking more of your calls on

2081
01:39:23,772 --> 01:39:26,253
Speaker 3: O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty twenty eight to four.

2082
01:39:28,412 --> 01:39:31,852
Speaker 13: US Talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

2083
01:39:31,933 --> 01:39:35,253
Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble around, or I should

2084
01:39:35,333 --> 01:39:39,092
Speaker 13: say another thirty six thousand workers have voted to strike

2085
01:39:39,293 --> 01:39:42,333
Speaker 13: later this month, bringing the total number who will stop

2086
01:39:42,412 --> 01:39:45,692
Speaker 13: work on October twenty third to more than ninety one

2087
01:39:45,853 --> 01:39:50,053
Speaker 13: thousand to for the Order Nurses, midwives and Healthcare Assistance.

2088
01:39:50,372 --> 01:39:54,253
Speaker 13: The latest to join the day of industrial action. Foreign

2089
01:39:54,293 --> 01:39:57,933
Speaker 13: Affairs Minister Winston Peters is condemning the action by protesters

2090
01:39:58,293 --> 01:40:02,773
Speaker 13: outside his Auckland home, calling it blatant harassment. The protesters

2091
01:40:02,812 --> 01:40:05,212
Speaker 13: were showing support for the kiwis on board the flotilla

2092
01:40:05,333 --> 01:40:09,852
Speaker 13: Sea's near Gaza, now detained by Israel. The government's looking

2093
01:40:09,973 --> 01:40:13,612
Speaker 13: at weapons manufacturing in New Zealand. After a twelve billion

2094
01:40:13,692 --> 01:40:18,212
Speaker 13: dollar defense capability plan, ministers have today launched the Defense

2095
01:40:18,333 --> 01:40:24,692
Speaker 13: Industry Strategy spanning four years. Around twenty Victoria University students

2096
01:40:24,812 --> 01:40:28,293
Speaker 13: are staging a sit in at the Vietnamese Embassy. It

2097
01:40:28,412 --> 01:40:31,892
Speaker 13: follows a failed effort to extradite two Vietnamese men who

2098
01:40:31,973 --> 01:40:34,692
Speaker 13: were part of a delegation who were accused of in

2099
01:40:34,772 --> 01:40:38,333
Speaker 13: decently assaulting two weight staff at a Wellington restaurant in

2100
01:40:38,452 --> 01:40:43,253
Speaker 13: twenty twenty four. Four cups of coffee and more walking

2101
01:40:43,692 --> 01:40:46,972
Speaker 13: the daily habits that protect your liver. You can find

2102
01:40:46,973 --> 01:40:49,532
Speaker 13: out more at endcent Herald Premium. Now back to matt

2103
01:40:49,572 --> 01:40:50,572
Speaker 13: Ethan Tyler Adams.

2104
01:40:50,652 --> 01:40:52,532
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Ray Lean and we have been

2105
01:40:52,572 --> 01:40:55,293
Speaker 3: talking about CPR first daid those skills that you may

2106
01:40:55,412 --> 01:40:57,972
Speaker 3: need to save somebody's life if you've been in that situation.

2107
01:40:58,173 --> 01:40:59,692
Speaker 3: Really can you hear from you on oh, one hundred

2108
01:40:59,692 --> 01:41:03,173
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty quite a few text coming through

2109
01:41:03,293 --> 01:41:07,972
Speaker 3: nine two ninety two is well, this one says Kiday, Guys,

2110
01:41:08,013 --> 01:41:12,133
Speaker 3: I have this amazing cost effective sell aed in my car.

2111
01:41:12,572 --> 01:41:14,933
Speaker 3: It's portable and has saved a number of lives and

2112
01:41:15,013 --> 01:41:16,172
Speaker 3: can be purchased online.

2113
01:41:17,173 --> 01:41:19,293
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh that's god. It's great to have your own one. Yeah,

2114
01:41:19,492 --> 01:41:22,013
Speaker 2: absolutely incredible because you have to keep that charge though,

2115
01:41:22,013 --> 01:41:22,532
Speaker 2: I guess.

2116
01:41:22,492 --> 01:41:24,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine you do it. I'll try and search for that.

2117
01:41:24,412 --> 01:41:26,452
Speaker 2: The six says great chat just on how to get

2118
01:41:26,492 --> 01:41:28,772
Speaker 2: into the a ED. Some of the community have keypad

2119
01:41:28,812 --> 01:41:30,372
Speaker 2: locks and you have to call one one one and

2120
01:41:30,452 --> 01:41:32,933
Speaker 2: they'll give you the code. Yes, ah, right, because you

2121
01:41:32,973 --> 01:41:33,812
Speaker 2: were asking that, weren't you.

2122
01:41:33,933 --> 01:41:34,133
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2123
01:41:34,572 --> 01:41:38,932
Speaker 2: I've never tried to open one. Yeah, but I I'd

2124
01:41:38,933 --> 01:41:41,852
Speaker 2: always assume you could open them. But I mean, wouldn't

2125
01:41:41,933 --> 01:41:46,093
Speaker 2: just you just get knobs and knobs grabbing them when

2126
01:41:46,133 --> 01:41:47,892
Speaker 2: a drunk and blasting each other with them?

2127
01:41:47,973 --> 01:41:51,052
Speaker 3: Right, very true? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Richards.

2128
01:41:51,933 --> 01:41:55,012
Speaker 3: You've got some CPR lessons. Yeah, kidy mates. So something

2129
01:41:55,053 --> 01:41:55,772
Speaker 3: happened in Japan.

2130
01:41:57,732 --> 01:42:00,692
Speaker 12: No nothing, no, no, no, nothing happened, but it did,

2131
01:42:00,772 --> 01:42:05,412
Speaker 12: but nothing's bad. So I was in Tokyo and they

2132
01:42:05,452 --> 01:42:08,213
Speaker 12: had the fire service all set up in a y

2133
01:42:08,333 --> 01:42:12,692
Speaker 12: a very wide pedestrian area with loads of annekins on

2134
01:42:12,732 --> 01:42:16,293
Speaker 12: the floor, just just showing people how to do CPR

2135
01:42:16,612 --> 01:42:18,652
Speaker 12: and you know, giving everyone a go at it really,

2136
01:42:19,053 --> 01:42:21,133
Speaker 12: which I thought was pretty good.

2137
01:42:22,293 --> 01:42:25,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is you got on the Japanese. Look,

2138
01:42:25,412 --> 01:42:27,173
Speaker 3: they do a lot of great things the Japanese, but

2139
01:42:27,333 --> 01:42:30,293
Speaker 3: having public displays where you can just practice your CPR

2140
01:42:30,692 --> 01:42:31,812
Speaker 3: all for that, bring that here?

2141
01:42:31,893 --> 01:42:34,572
Speaker 2: So are they always here or was they set up

2142
01:42:34,612 --> 01:42:35,653
Speaker 2: as a sort of installation.

2143
01:42:37,293 --> 01:42:40,213
Speaker 12: Look, I just I just wondered. It seemed like it

2144
01:42:40,333 --> 01:42:43,532
Speaker 12: was sort of just set up for something. And then

2145
01:42:43,812 --> 01:42:45,452
Speaker 12: a little bit further around the corner, they had this

2146
01:42:45,572 --> 01:42:47,372
Speaker 12: bit machine or set up that you could sit in

2147
01:42:47,933 --> 01:42:50,973
Speaker 12: which simulated an earthquake, and then what you should be

2148
01:42:51,013 --> 01:42:54,732
Speaker 12: doing in earthquake, which was like, oh, well we're dying

2149
01:42:54,772 --> 01:42:56,133
Speaker 12: now in an earthquake.

2150
01:42:56,652 --> 01:43:00,412
Speaker 3: Roll those out across the zeland or entertaining walk you

2151
01:43:00,532 --> 01:43:01,972
Speaker 3: in on what is the current?

2152
01:43:02,053 --> 01:43:02,333
Speaker 5: It was?

2153
01:43:02,412 --> 01:43:04,812
Speaker 3: It was I keep ask this question.

2154
01:43:04,853 --> 01:43:06,333
Speaker 2: I think people give me the answer, but what's the

2155
01:43:06,412 --> 01:43:09,012
Speaker 2: current thing you're supposed to do on this quack? Because

2156
01:43:09,013 --> 01:43:10,253
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, it was like get under

2157
01:43:10,293 --> 01:43:13,173
Speaker 2: the door frames and not go outside as it go

2158
01:43:13,293 --> 01:43:17,372
Speaker 2: outside that simulation you come across, say anything about that, Richard,

2159
01:43:18,173 --> 01:43:19,612
Speaker 2: Uh No, no it didn't.

2160
01:43:19,732 --> 01:43:20,652
Speaker 12: It was all in Japanese.

2161
01:43:21,732 --> 01:43:22,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, going on.

2162
01:43:23,093 --> 01:43:25,972
Speaker 12: But to be fair that there's loads of different things.

2163
01:43:26,013 --> 01:43:28,333
Speaker 12: Isn't it like, you know, get under something or whatever.

2164
01:43:28,853 --> 01:43:31,652
Speaker 12: I mean, personally itself, I'd try and find an open

2165
01:43:31,692 --> 01:43:33,293
Speaker 12: field and when nothing can fall on me.

2166
01:43:33,412 --> 01:43:36,572
Speaker 3: Really, yes, I'm going to say that. During the during

2167
01:43:36,612 --> 01:43:39,492
Speaker 3: the kai Quarta earthquake, I think the official advices drop

2168
01:43:39,612 --> 01:43:41,932
Speaker 3: cover and hold, but I didn't know what the hell

2169
01:43:42,053 --> 01:43:43,852
Speaker 3: was going on because it was so long. Cover and

2170
01:43:43,933 --> 01:43:46,692
Speaker 3: hold what well, yeah, good point, drop under a disk,

2171
01:43:46,853 --> 01:43:48,612
Speaker 3: cover your head and hold on for your life.

2172
01:43:48,732 --> 01:43:49,053
Speaker 12: I don't know.

2173
01:43:50,053 --> 01:43:52,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should find out what the answer to that is.

2174
01:43:53,093 --> 01:43:56,732
Speaker 12: Yes, you go it to So getting into the first

2175
01:43:56,812 --> 01:44:01,532
Speaker 12: eight thing, I actually served the Parachute Regiment in Northern

2176
01:44:01,572 --> 01:44:07,052
Speaker 12: Ireland and the Falklands War, and fairly well trained combat

2177
01:44:07,133 --> 01:44:10,812
Speaker 12: medic out there with the regiment, and that we worked

2178
01:44:10,853 --> 01:44:15,373
Speaker 12: under a team called A A B, which was airways

2179
01:44:15,532 --> 01:44:19,213
Speaker 12: clearing airway, be was bleeding, stop any bleeding and then

2180
01:44:19,253 --> 01:44:22,732
Speaker 12: try and evacuate the person. So you know, you had

2181
01:44:22,812 --> 01:44:25,852
Speaker 12: your your Saint John's people on and the medics on

2182
01:44:25,893 --> 01:44:27,732
Speaker 12: and all that, and they're dead right with the bleeding

2183
01:44:27,812 --> 01:44:30,652
Speaker 12: and all that. It's just apply direct pressure to it.

2184
01:44:31,452 --> 01:44:33,412
Speaker 12: So in the back of the car, I've always got

2185
01:44:33,452 --> 01:44:36,012
Speaker 12: a couple of roll bandages something like that, yeah, which

2186
01:44:36,053 --> 01:44:38,612
Speaker 12: which are a brilliant things. You know, you can put

2187
01:44:38,652 --> 01:44:40,892
Speaker 12: a pat use one of the pad neilby and wrap

2188
01:44:41,013 --> 01:44:43,692
Speaker 12: it around the route that the wound apply direct pressure.

2189
01:44:46,013 --> 01:44:48,852
Speaker 12: So yeah, I mean airways is a big thing. If

2190
01:44:48,853 --> 01:44:50,532
Speaker 12: they haven't got a clear airway, then they're probably going

2191
01:44:50,572 --> 01:44:50,892
Speaker 12: to choke.

2192
01:44:51,293 --> 01:44:52,572
Speaker 5: So sort of it.

2193
01:44:52,692 --> 01:44:54,333
Speaker 12: You had things out there where people that got shot

2194
01:44:54,652 --> 01:44:56,253
Speaker 12: through the face, so you had like the teeth and

2195
01:44:56,293 --> 01:45:00,173
Speaker 12: everything else he's scraping out and tongue being swallowed. Not

2196
01:45:00,253 --> 01:45:04,133
Speaker 12: that sort of stuffy with these people thuming in about

2197
01:45:04,173 --> 01:45:06,892
Speaker 12: these songs. I thought it's quite funny where someone said,

2198
01:45:06,973 --> 01:45:09,972
Speaker 12: like it's it's a good idea, do it to stay

2199
01:45:10,013 --> 01:45:12,372
Speaker 12: in live, which is everyone gets tall and then I

2200
01:45:12,412 --> 01:45:15,372
Speaker 12: don't think the good suggestion was another one bites the dust.

2201
01:45:15,492 --> 01:45:16,812
Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm not very encouraging.

2202
01:45:17,213 --> 01:45:21,492
Speaker 2: Yeah in terms of in terms of messages, it's the

2203
01:45:21,612 --> 01:45:22,093
Speaker 2: right feet.

2204
01:45:22,253 --> 01:45:23,213
Speaker 3: Oh it's good.

2205
01:45:23,412 --> 01:45:25,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely don't want another.

2206
01:45:24,772 --> 01:45:26,412
Speaker 3: One to Yeah.

2207
01:45:29,013 --> 01:45:31,012
Speaker 12: If you're seeing it in your head, you're like, oh.

2208
01:45:31,893 --> 01:45:33,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe staying in life is a bit of one.

2209
01:45:33,692 --> 01:45:37,412
Speaker 2: Just for the positive records, so positive information. Hey, just

2210
01:45:37,492 --> 01:45:40,053
Speaker 2: before we let you go, Richard, So you see you're

2211
01:45:40,053 --> 01:45:41,972
Speaker 2: on the Falkland Islands. You must have been operating near

2212
01:45:42,013 --> 01:45:43,093
Speaker 2: the Harrier jump Ye.

2213
01:45:43,093 --> 01:45:43,452
Speaker 3: It's god.

2214
01:45:43,732 --> 01:45:44,892
Speaker 2: I love the Harrier jump jets.

2215
01:45:46,532 --> 01:45:52,053
Speaker 12: They didn't land or anything like that where we were,

2216
01:45:52,173 --> 01:45:54,372
Speaker 12: but we I was with a second Battalion of the

2217
01:45:54,372 --> 01:45:57,173
Speaker 12: Parachute Regiment, so we had a big batlet goose green

2218
01:45:57,772 --> 01:46:01,612
Speaker 12: and the biggest problem we had lack of ammunition and

2219
01:46:01,772 --> 01:46:04,532
Speaker 12: everything else. But our harriers were based at sea, on

2220
01:46:04,612 --> 01:46:07,213
Speaker 12: the aircraft carriers. Yeah, and the weather was so bad

2221
01:46:07,293 --> 01:46:09,053
Speaker 12: that they couldn't take off and support us.

2222
01:46:09,412 --> 01:46:13,932
Speaker 2: Yeah right, well, no, no, no, no, I do mate.

2223
01:46:13,933 --> 01:46:16,093
Speaker 12: I'll tell you what when when you those boys in action,

2224
01:46:16,853 --> 01:46:19,932
Speaker 12: hats off to them, absolutely amazing, you know, actually watching

2225
01:46:19,973 --> 01:46:24,612
Speaker 12: a live firefight going off. But what happened in the

2226
01:46:24,772 --> 01:46:26,612
Speaker 12: Argentina is that they could take off because they were

2227
01:46:26,692 --> 01:46:30,173
Speaker 12: land based, so Greuse Stream just near the settlement for

2228
01:46:30,253 --> 01:46:33,253
Speaker 12: a settlement where the Pakaris dropped the maypalm hon Us

2229
01:46:33,333 --> 01:46:35,812
Speaker 12: and that didn't cause too much of a problem, thank god.

2230
01:46:36,213 --> 01:46:41,933
Speaker 12: But towards the evening the harriers came in and it

2231
01:46:42,053 --> 01:46:44,492
Speaker 12: was more of a bit of a firepowered demonstration than

2232
01:46:44,532 --> 01:46:46,932
Speaker 12: anything because we've still got all these hostages being held

2233
01:46:46,973 --> 01:46:49,692
Speaker 12: in Goose Green and that was part of my job

2234
01:46:49,853 --> 01:46:52,572
Speaker 12: was to try and get to the hostage release. But

2235
01:46:54,133 --> 01:46:56,133
Speaker 12: these war birds came over here, mate, and they were

2236
01:46:56,333 --> 01:47:01,093
Speaker 12: like almost touching the ground and the wings were just

2237
01:47:01,173 --> 01:47:04,133
Speaker 12: like a big eagle wings swooping down over here, and

2238
01:47:04,652 --> 01:47:07,893
Speaker 12: that was pretty amazing, pretty amazing to see. Yeah, And

2239
01:47:08,013 --> 01:47:11,652
Speaker 12: also like one of the dog fights was watching you know,

2240
01:47:11,853 --> 01:47:14,133
Speaker 12: you've seen it in the old movies and all that,

2241
01:47:14,572 --> 01:47:17,612
Speaker 12: where they hit the reverse for us and all the aircraft.

2242
01:47:17,652 --> 01:47:19,973
Speaker 12: The other one shoots fire where we actually watched one

2243
01:47:19,973 --> 01:47:23,333
Speaker 12: of the pilots doing that, and it's just like those boys, mate,

2244
01:47:23,532 --> 01:47:26,692
Speaker 12: they were really good. And luckily they were actually armed

2245
01:47:26,732 --> 01:47:29,333
Speaker 12: with the accept missile, which was a new missile that

2246
01:47:29,452 --> 01:47:33,852
Speaker 12: was out I'll fire and forget, So that was sorry.

2247
01:47:33,933 --> 01:47:39,213
Speaker 12: The sidewinder missile. Yeah, which they'd armby harriers with which

2248
01:47:39,253 --> 01:47:42,372
Speaker 12: have never been tested before in a in a war situation.

2249
01:47:42,612 --> 01:47:45,572
Speaker 12: But you know, we spoke the pilots afterwards get togethers,

2250
01:47:45,572 --> 01:47:50,572
Speaker 12: and they were pretty amazing at this dismissile type thing.

2251
01:47:50,893 --> 01:47:53,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for it. You've lived

2252
01:47:53,053 --> 01:47:54,452
Speaker 2: an incredibly interesting life.

2253
01:47:54,532 --> 01:47:55,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen some stuff.

2254
01:47:56,412 --> 01:47:58,133
Speaker 2: Ben boring over the harereat jumps, so I love those.

2255
01:47:58,253 --> 01:48:01,293
Speaker 3: I was just watching a video of a very compressive machines, right,

2256
01:48:01,333 --> 01:48:03,852
Speaker 3: and it's seventeen to four beck very shortly, Oh, one

2257
01:48:03,893 --> 01:48:07,572
Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen addies and number to call the big stories.

2258
01:48:07,333 --> 01:48:10,852
Speaker 1: The big issues, to the big trends and everything in between.

2259
01:48:11,093 --> 01:48:14,012
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons US Talks.

2260
01:48:14,013 --> 01:48:17,333
Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoon, having a great discussion about

2261
01:48:17,372 --> 01:48:19,973
Speaker 3: first aid training CPR. Have you ever been in a

2262
01:48:20,053 --> 01:48:24,412
Speaker 3: situation where you've needed to utilize it or someone performed

2263
01:48:24,452 --> 01:48:27,213
Speaker 3: CPR or on you? So many calls and texts coming through.

2264
01:48:27,853 --> 01:48:29,612
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number, but oh,

2265
01:48:29,652 --> 01:48:32,012
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty is the number of call.

2266
01:48:32,253 --> 01:48:34,053
Speaker 2: Glenn, welcome to the show. You want to talk about

2267
01:48:34,093 --> 01:48:34,932
Speaker 2: cardiac arrests?

2268
01:48:35,652 --> 01:48:40,892
Speaker 23: Yo, yeah, Matt Tyler. In August twenty nineteen, I had

2269
01:48:40,893 --> 01:48:44,293
Speaker 23: a cardiac arrest and I was stone cold, mother of dead,

2270
01:48:45,133 --> 01:48:48,692
Speaker 23: and some do. I never knew this guy, and I

2271
01:48:48,772 --> 01:48:51,452
Speaker 23: think his name was Paul. He must have been a

2272
01:48:51,532 --> 01:48:53,772
Speaker 23: builder or something. It all depends where you have a

2273
01:48:53,853 --> 01:48:55,852
Speaker 23: cardia charrest, have you have it away from it? No

2274
01:48:55,933 --> 01:48:59,213
Speaker 23: one that knows what they're doing, you're dead anyway. This guy,

2275
01:49:00,013 --> 01:49:01,732
Speaker 23: he must have just walked straight out of with a

2276
01:49:01,893 --> 01:49:04,452
Speaker 23: fresher course from Saint John's or something we've done the

2277
01:49:04,893 --> 01:49:08,892
Speaker 23: first day, because I can't remember that. He immediately jumped

2278
01:49:08,893 --> 01:49:11,973
Speaker 23: on me and jumped on the start smashing away on

2279
01:49:12,093 --> 01:49:15,333
Speaker 23: my chest and broke a couple of roobs. To be fear,

2280
01:49:15,492 --> 01:49:17,973
Speaker 23: but I think that's what they're supposed to do. And

2281
01:49:18,213 --> 01:49:20,812
Speaker 23: he kept on pumping away there for twenty minutes before

2282
01:49:20,853 --> 01:49:25,253
Speaker 23: the handbags got there, and apparently they gave me six

2283
01:49:25,412 --> 01:49:29,333
Speaker 23: jump starts before that they got a pulse and obviously

2284
01:49:29,532 --> 01:49:32,652
Speaker 23: you know a bit more key then. But this other dude, lucky,

2285
01:49:32,692 --> 01:49:35,333
Speaker 23: he knew what he was doing. So I'd recommend anybody

2286
01:49:35,492 --> 01:49:37,293
Speaker 23: learned how to do that. It could be a life

2287
01:49:37,372 --> 01:49:39,892
Speaker 23: to be saved. I was one of the lucky ones.

2288
01:49:40,572 --> 01:49:42,933
Speaker 23: Not many of them. Not many of us make it.

2289
01:49:43,572 --> 01:49:48,452
Speaker 23: And that was years ago, August twenty nineteen, and all

2290
01:49:48,532 --> 01:49:51,333
Speaker 23: they did well. I was in a coma for four

2291
01:49:51,412 --> 01:49:54,492
Speaker 23: days in hospital. They called up with me kids and said,

2292
01:49:54,492 --> 01:49:55,852
Speaker 23: you you to come and see you old man for

2293
01:49:55,933 --> 01:49:57,973
Speaker 23: the last time, that he ain't making it out of here,

2294
01:49:59,333 --> 01:50:03,253
Speaker 23: not standing up anyway. And then yeah, I wake up

2295
01:50:03,333 --> 01:50:07,333
Speaker 23: with tubes and lights flashing and wires looked up, and

2296
01:50:08,013 --> 01:50:09,893
Speaker 23: they cart me off there. And they must had a

2297
01:50:10,013 --> 01:50:16,692
Speaker 23: few spear not defibulated. What do you pacemakers, They must

2298
01:50:16,732 --> 01:50:19,652
Speaker 23: had a few spare ones left over for that budget

2299
01:50:19,732 --> 01:50:23,812
Speaker 23: for that year. And so they cut me open and

2300
01:50:24,093 --> 01:50:27,532
Speaker 23: put one of them in. Apparently it had there was

2301
01:50:27,532 --> 01:50:30,692
Speaker 23: supposed to have charge for five years, which is up now.

2302
01:50:31,372 --> 01:50:33,972
Speaker 23: But I do go back. I've got to go back

2303
01:50:34,053 --> 01:50:38,092
Speaker 23: actually pretty soon on August, on September the twentieth. I'llkay

2304
01:50:38,093 --> 01:50:41,213
Speaker 23: over the twentieth to get their test that they just

2305
01:50:41,412 --> 01:50:42,772
Speaker 23: I don't know what they do. They do a few

2306
01:50:42,893 --> 01:50:47,492
Speaker 23: tests on them, but they reckon in Christ you so,

2307
01:50:47,532 --> 01:50:50,333
Speaker 23: I got some pretty good heart surgeons from world renowned.

2308
01:50:50,933 --> 01:50:53,012
Speaker 23: They reckon that by the time this one here runs

2309
01:50:53,053 --> 01:50:54,892
Speaker 23: out a battery that you'll be able to get another

2310
01:50:54,973 --> 01:50:58,093
Speaker 23: one at charges from the outside like you do with

2311
01:50:58,213 --> 01:51:00,972
Speaker 23: the phone here. You can put them on a thing,

2312
01:51:01,893 --> 01:51:05,333
Speaker 23: but at the moment it's never gone off. I did

2313
01:51:05,452 --> 01:51:08,692
Speaker 23: ask the technician what it feels like if I go off,

2314
01:51:08,732 --> 01:51:11,812
Speaker 23: and well, me's the standing behind a horse and it

2315
01:51:11,933 --> 01:51:12,293
Speaker 23: kicks you.

2316
01:51:12,333 --> 01:51:16,173
Speaker 2: With both f Yeah, I can picture that. I can

2317
01:51:16,213 --> 01:51:20,092
Speaker 2: get that. That's fantastic, and then makes the point perfectly

2318
01:51:20,333 --> 01:51:22,013
Speaker 2: he was lucky that there was someone there that was

2319
01:51:22,093 --> 01:51:25,612
Speaker 2: schooled up by the Saint Shane John's Waders so they

2320
01:51:25,612 --> 01:51:28,133
Speaker 2: could help him. So yeah, yeah, I think being able

2321
01:51:28,173 --> 01:51:30,612
Speaker 2: to do the basics to save your fellow citizen is

2322
01:51:30,973 --> 01:51:34,972
Speaker 2: the absolute basics we can do. Yeah, so currently I can't.

2323
01:51:35,013 --> 01:51:36,652
Speaker 2: So I'm going to make sure I scool up on that,

2324
01:51:36,812 --> 01:51:39,452
Speaker 2: and I've downloaded the Good Samaritan app, the Good sam

2325
01:51:39,652 --> 01:51:43,492
Speaker 2: at and the aed Locator app and good on Saint

2326
01:51:43,572 --> 01:51:46,293
Speaker 2: John's because it's a sh October and they're giving free

2327
01:51:46,372 --> 01:51:50,293
Speaker 2: courses on CPR at the moment, so let's all get boned.

2328
01:51:50,013 --> 01:51:50,293
Speaker 5: Up on it.

2329
01:51:50,412 --> 01:51:51,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great discussion. If we're going to go

2330
01:51:51,853 --> 01:51:54,812
Speaker 3: to that website that is three the number three steps

2331
01:51:55,053 --> 01:51:57,893
Speaker 3: for Life dot Saint John dot org dot n z.

2332
01:51:58,013 --> 01:51:59,253
Speaker 3: It fantastic and what.

2333
01:51:59,333 --> 01:52:01,612
Speaker 2: A bunch of fantastic, humbling conversations we've had in the

2334
01:52:01,692 --> 01:52:02,053
Speaker 2: last hour.

2335
01:52:02,093 --> 01:52:05,013
Speaker 3: That was also so good. Right, every week we pick

2336
01:52:05,053 --> 01:52:06,612
Speaker 3: a caller of the week, and this week we were

2337
01:52:06,732 --> 01:52:10,092
Speaker 3: so inundated with such great callers, genuinely that we couldn't

2338
01:52:10,093 --> 01:52:12,893
Speaker 3: picture just one. So this week we've got two. The

2339
01:52:12,973 --> 01:52:15,253
Speaker 3: first was during our discussion on rats, and this was

2340
01:52:15,293 --> 01:52:18,372
Speaker 3: after the Deputy Mirror of Paris called for an armistice

2341
01:52:18,412 --> 01:52:21,173
Speaker 3: between man and rat and we had a call from

2342
01:52:21,253 --> 01:52:24,213
Speaker 3: young Casey. She rang up to share how things went

2343
01:52:24,293 --> 01:52:26,852
Speaker 3: a little bit wrong when it came to their pet rats.

2344
01:52:27,093 --> 01:52:29,532
Speaker 21: We've had pitt rat my whole life, pretty much, I

2345
01:52:29,612 --> 01:52:30,052
Speaker 21: may seem.

2346
01:52:30,452 --> 01:52:33,052
Speaker 7: We rested these two white, gorgeous rats.

2347
01:52:33,093 --> 01:52:33,932
Speaker 14: They were so sweet.

2348
01:52:34,093 --> 01:52:37,133
Speaker 17: One of them actually got out and it bread was

2349
01:52:37,572 --> 01:52:40,133
Speaker 17: a wild rat around our house.

2350
01:52:40,372 --> 01:52:42,493
Speaker 8: We had twenty baby rats.

2351
01:52:42,293 --> 01:52:45,892
Speaker 14: Just running around. We don't know, we're our pit one.

2352
01:52:45,933 --> 01:52:47,732
Speaker 2: We so it didn't even look after it was just

2353
01:52:47,853 --> 01:52:50,333
Speaker 2: like an absent father just so does wild oats, and

2354
01:52:50,452 --> 01:52:53,012
Speaker 2: left twenty a rat infestation in the house.

2355
01:52:54,652 --> 01:52:56,772
Speaker 3: Absent father rat. I think there was nicely put. Then

2356
01:52:56,853 --> 01:52:59,372
Speaker 3: we had a great chat on whether people are still

2357
01:52:59,492 --> 01:53:03,732
Speaker 3: enjoying installing rather fireplaces and Troy from Ashburny is good man.

2358
01:53:04,013 --> 01:53:06,772
Speaker 3: He called in they had just installed a fireplace and

2359
01:53:06,933 --> 01:53:09,372
Speaker 3: him and his wife were really really enjoy it.

2360
01:53:09,732 --> 01:53:09,892
Speaker 5: Man.

2361
01:53:10,013 --> 01:53:12,612
Speaker 12: The wife put one in a couple of months ago.

2362
01:53:12,732 --> 01:53:12,932
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2363
01:53:13,013 --> 01:53:15,293
Speaker 2: And do you find yourself, you and your mess this

2364
01:53:15,933 --> 01:53:16,972
Speaker 2: steering into the fire.

2365
01:53:17,213 --> 01:53:17,412
Speaker 5: We do.

2366
01:53:17,572 --> 01:53:20,173
Speaker 11: We've had a few nights we're falling asleep on the couch.

2367
01:53:20,492 --> 01:53:23,013
Speaker 11: Sometimes we'll even have, like have a date night in

2368
01:53:23,093 --> 01:53:25,932
Speaker 11: front of a date night in front of the couch.

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Speaker 2: It's the things get amorous, Troy, if you don't mind

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Speaker 2: me asking, it's a pretty romantic situation you're describing there.

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Speaker 3: Heavily, and well, well you know, we'll we'll take the

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Speaker 3: clothes off and sit in front of the fire.

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Speaker 2: Lovely, yea beautiful the.

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Speaker 3: Joys of fire place A love it fantastic creat calls

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Speaker 3: this week right, stay right here, will be back very shortly.

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Speaker 3: It is eight minutes to four.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

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Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons

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Speaker 1: used talks.

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Speaker 5: It'd be.

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Speaker 2: All right, great show, great week, go Liam and Singapore

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Speaker 2: off the weekend weekend, and if you're running the Devonport

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Speaker 2: Half Marathon on Sunday, lookout for me on the run.

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Speaker 2: I might need CPR go well mate, yeah, good on you,

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Until Monday afternoon, give.

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Speaker 3: A taste of kew from us A yes now, as

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Speaker 3: we've been celebrating all day to day. Taylor's was twelfth

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Speaker 3: studio album, The Life of a Showgirl. It is dropping

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Speaker 3: in about one hour's time five pm. That gets released,

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Speaker 3: so a lot of excitement around New Zealand in the

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Speaker 3: office and internationally as well. So we've been playing Taylor

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Speaker 3: all afternoon. And this song the eighth era from Swift

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Speaker 3: was Folklore. It was written and recorded during the early

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Speaker 3: stages of the COVID nineteen pandemic in twenty twenty. This

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Speaker 3: was a sister album to Evermore, which was released later

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Speaker 3: the same year. She explored new genres and new collaborators

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Speaker 3: through the albums, leaning into India as you can hear

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Speaker 3: so taking us to the news is this song from

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Speaker 3: her album Folklore.

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Speaker 2: August DAYA beautiful love leave alway Yeah you kay, I'll you.

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Speaker 13: It sounds like.

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Speaker 9: You don't, but it's so.

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Speaker 3: It don't you.

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Speaker 13: Swell oh.

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Speaker 17: Oh for more?

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Speaker 2: From used talkst B.

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Speaker 1: Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows

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