1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: I might have a win with new numbers around youth 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: offending showing it's down fourteen point six percent compared to 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: June of twenty three, Northland seen of forty percent drop. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: Orkands down fourteen Karen Chaws, the Children's Minister of course 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: enders with us, Karen morning. 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm morning. How are you very well? 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Indeed, how much of this as ram raids, like because 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: we don't ram raid much anymore, that numbers naturally dropped. 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a big part of it. I don't 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: have the percentage in front of me, but ram raids 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: have dropped by eighty two percent, and we do know 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: that that a small group of young people are causing 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: a large problem within our communities. So this isn't a 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: massive problem, and so we're focusing on the small group 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: of serious, persistent youth offenders and it's starting to work good. 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: So this is the repeat of fending is down. But 17 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: one of the in your press release you're claiming boot camps. 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. The boot camps haven't even started. 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: Yes, but we did run a pilot and we had 20 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: a lot of learnings from that pilot that we're now 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: using within our work. Pro working with the community, working 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: with the families, making sure that we have good wrap 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: around service with young people when they're going back to 24 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: the homes, back into their homes. So whilst the military 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: style academy hasn't started for the program within the youth 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: justice facilities, it doesn't mean that we haven't taken some 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: of those learnings and put it into our work program. 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: I've also, I'm quoting you, I've also been informed that 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: repeat young offenders are avoiding reoffending because they know courts 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: are rung a tamariki and police are working together more closely. 31 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: Is that anecdotal or is that real? 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: That's what I'm hearing out in the community. I'm hearing 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: that the consistent message from Auto Atomitiki, police and other 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: agencies that the message is out there that young people 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: know now that they're not untouchable and that there will 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: be consequences of their offending. 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, the variation and region so forty percent, Northland 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: thirty six, Tasman twenty eight, Wellingtons seventeen Wykatto. Can you 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: explain that, is that a different approach from the police 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: and ot or there was more crime in some areas 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: than others or what's going on there. 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: We've had focus in some areas where we knew there 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: was a big problem, where communities were telling us this 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: was a problem. So there were some regions where where 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: tables were set up with cross agency approaches around the table. 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: But what I would say is the fast track, the 47 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: extension of the fast track that have been set up. 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: I think over multiple communities have really made a difference. 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: In Hamilton wrote to Rua christ Church Auckland, where we 50 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: have multiple agencies sitting around the table and making quicker, 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: faster decisions about what we're going. 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: To do good Is there more where this came from? 53 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, we're not going to stop. Whilst fourteen point 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: six percent is a good number and we're a few 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: years ahead of our target, it doesn't mean we stop 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 2: keep going because communities have told us they felt unsafe 57 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: and this is a problem that needed to be fixed, 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: and I campaigned on making sure there were consequences for 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: young people. But we also need to make sure that 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: we've got good rehabilitation there so that we're not getting 61 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: this repeat of ending good stuff. 62 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Caaren appreciate it. 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