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Speaker 1: Rod Little is with us out of the UK. Hey Rod,

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Speaker 1: how are you going?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: And very well? Thank you. So what's the UK's response

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Speaker 1: to what's going on in Syria?

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Speaker 2: Well, twofold First, in most of the major media over

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Speaker 2: here have been talking up the victory of the Syrian

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Speaker 2: rebel forces much in the same way that they sort

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Speaker 2: of heralded the release from prison of Nelson Mandela. It's

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Speaker 2: a I think it's probably. I mean, they've just been

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Speaker 2: saying this is a new moderate. They're not alca either,

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Speaker 2: you know, don't worry about it. They're going to be

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Speaker 2: just fine. We've got to get rid of a sad.

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Speaker 2: I have my doubts about that. I think if I

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Speaker 2: come back to bite us at the moment, David Lammy,

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Speaker 2: our Foreign Secretary, God help us, is currently mulling over

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Speaker 2: the prospect of removing HTS from the list of prescribed

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Speaker 2: organizations under the idea that they might indeed be reformed.

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Speaker 2: But I think that would be a very wise, unwise

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Speaker 2: thing to do at the moment. The other thing, of course,

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Speaker 2: is the fact that we have many many Syrian refugees

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Speaker 2: in this country who have come here is a persecution

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Speaker 2: from Bacharalasad. Now the Austrians have already announced mass deportations

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Speaker 2: of Syrians. Asset's gone, You're going home. And indeed even

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Speaker 2: our labor government has now said that all applications for

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Speaker 2: asilent from Syria are going to be put on hold

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Speaker 2: and will not be processed. They are thinking of sending

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Speaker 2: some back.

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Speaker 1: So what is it going to take? I meane, I

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Speaker 1: see Lemmy's got one position, and kirstam as saying, well, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, hold the horses will have it. It's far

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Speaker 1: too really to decide whether these guys need to be

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Speaker 1: taken off the terrorist list or not. What's it going

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Speaker 1: to take to actually take them off? What do they

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Speaker 1: have to do to prove them.

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Speaker 2: Well? Not allowed the country to descend into chaos, and

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Speaker 2: not announced a kind of general g hard against infidels,

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Speaker 2: none of which seems very very likely. It seems to

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Speaker 2: me that we're in the same position with Syria that

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Speaker 2: we were in twenty ten, with Libya twenty eleven, rather

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Speaker 2: that you know, well, we keep being told that these

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Speaker 2: organizations have reformed and are no longer murderous and violent,

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Speaker 2: and yet you know, we were told that about the Taliban.

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Speaker 2: It was going to be Taliban to zero. They were

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Speaker 2: going to be completely different. No, that didn't happen. So

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Speaker 2: I think we I just hope that Sakeir Starmer prevails

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Speaker 2: over LAMMI and that we're a bit We're a bit

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Speaker 2: measured in our response to what happens Insirio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's hoping. Hey, the old business indicators are not

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Speaker 1: looking too good for a recession, are they.

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Speaker 2: No, And you know, I think I've probably got this wrong.

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Speaker 2: I actually saw back in July that a new labor

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Speaker 2: government might just provide a bit of an impetus to

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Speaker 2: the economy, given the years of stagnation under the Conservative Party.

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Speaker 2: But it has been catastrophic and Rachel Reeves's budget a

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Speaker 2: month ago has rare two months ago now has really

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Speaker 2: said the seeds of what looks like becoming a recession.

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Speaker 2: We are on the edge of a recession. We were

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Speaker 2: a long way away from that under the Tories, no

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Speaker 2: matter how inept they were, but we're now on the

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Speaker 2: edge of a recession. More and more firms are pulling

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Speaker 2: out of London. The economic indicators are looking very very bad. Indeed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really, hey, Rod, look after yourself. Thanks for talking

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Speaker 1: us through that. I really appreciate its Rod Little, our

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