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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks, that'd be.

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Speaker 2: Time to catch up with our sustainability commentator Kate Hall

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Speaker 2: is with us this morning, gilder Icade, Well, Jack, this morning,

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Speaker 2: we're looking at travel and how you can try and

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Speaker 2: be a bit more sustainable, not only in your travel

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Speaker 2: but with the things you're doing at home while you travel,

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Speaker 2: which I know sounds a bit confusing, but actually there

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Speaker 2: is some really simple stuff you can do to make

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Speaker 2: sure you're obviously consuming less energy at home when you're

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Speaker 2: not at home. So let's start off there. I didn't

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Speaker 2: know this did anything, but you reckon actually switching off

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Speaker 2: appliances at the wall is worth it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yep, there have been studies done. Obviously, it depends

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Speaker 3: on the footprint of your home and all of that

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Speaker 3: as to how much you are actually saving, but switching

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Speaker 3: appliants off, I think it's also a good piece of

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Speaker 3: mind as well. You know that things aren't running and

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Speaker 3: just and can't be running, you know, less likely for

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Speaker 3: things to happen.

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Speaker 2: So I've become quite obsessed with my power bill lately,

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Speaker 2: basically because this is utterly seen over the winter, because

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Speaker 2: we have some we hit We still have pipe gas

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Speaker 2: at our place for heating, so don't get me started

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Speaker 2: on that anyway. But we were away from home for

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks and I found it like really

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Speaker 2: interesting to see how much energy we were still consuming

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Speaker 2: when no one was in the house. I was like,

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Speaker 2: it was as possible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still a lot. I mean it is hard

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Speaker 3: for your fridge and freezer, but if you are away

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Speaker 3: for you know, a really like a month or something,

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Speaker 3: it can actually be in your best interest to get

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Speaker 3: rid of all the food, pass it around to friends

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Speaker 3: and family, and actually turn it off. Yeah, because yeah,

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Speaker 3: especially you said over winter and get into the summer months.

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Speaker 3: And also then it's it's not on your mind as well.

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Speaker 3: If something had to happen, you know, the power goes out,

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Speaker 3: you're not wasting all that food because you're not there

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Speaker 3: to kind of salvage it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good point. Yeah, because that's a

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Speaker 2: terrible I'm sure you know that, that terrible feeling getting

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Speaker 2: back from being away from home and realizing that actually

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Speaker 2: the freezer has been plugged for four days and you

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Speaker 2: had meat and ice cream and everything's kind of a

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Speaker 2: warm glob at the bottom. No one needs that. What

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Speaker 2: what about packing? How do you think about packing sustainably?

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Speaker 3: Well, I've always been quite a light to packer, and

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Speaker 3: I think that's great too, because you're not carrying around,

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Speaker 3: you know, a whole lot of unnecessary stuff. And then

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Speaker 3: especially if you're fine an aeroplane or in a CAF,

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Speaker 3: the heavier the vehicles, the more coveron emissions. And I

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Speaker 3: just find it practical too.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. I am a principle one hundred percent support.

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Speaker 2: That's my favorite writer, AA girl who used to just

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Speaker 2: travel around you know, the world. He was an amazing

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Speaker 2: travel writer. He swore that he would never travel anywhere

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Speaker 2: with checked and luggage. So he was always like, I've

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Speaker 2: just got just one bag and you know, like a

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Speaker 2: few essentials in there, and if there's something I really

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Speaker 2: need when I'm away, then I'll be able to pack that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure he made, you know, some exceptions

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Speaker 2: for the Arctic Circle and things like that, but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he just reckoned that was the way to travel.

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Speaker 2: There is something, Yeah, there is something quite nice about,

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Speaker 2: especially if you're going to multiple places as part of

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Speaker 2: a trip, about not having to fat around with giant suitcases.

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Speaker 2: And stuff as well.

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Speaker 3: It just makes the whole trip so so much easier,

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Speaker 3: you know, transporting yourself to and from buffes and planes

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Speaker 3: and trains and you know, in vehicles, And you're right,

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Speaker 3: you can actually if you need something enough, you can

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Speaker 3: buy it when you're there. And I guess that can sound,

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Speaker 3: you know, slightly controversial, because for me, if I were

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Speaker 3: to forget my toothpaste or toothbrush, you know, I've got

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Speaker 3: my resual toothbrush and my toothpaste, but I haven't. When

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Speaker 3: you're focusing just on the essentials, you're more likely to

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Speaker 3: bring those and if you buy it once, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So what about the travel itself.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to tell us that we have to

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Speaker 2: take e bikes everywhere? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, never go anywhere and just take either.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a journey to Australia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, my dad's a windsurfer and I always thought one

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Speaker 3: day I want a windsurf to estlain it. Anyway, I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna I'm not going to suggest you do that,

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Speaker 3: because there are there are ways to aft your flights.

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Speaker 3: That's really great. If you are flying I'm actually traveling

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Speaker 3: to church for the first time with my baby, and

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at, you know, okay, what things to take,

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Speaker 3: and I've offed at my flights when you are there

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Speaker 3: at like in the city, when you're traveling around taking trains,

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Speaker 3: if there irony, especially if you're not in New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: then it's more likely you can find trains. Looking at

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Speaker 3: direct flights instead of lots of little ones is also yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: slightly better, and buses too, So before you go, I

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Speaker 3: find it really helpful to investigate those things first because

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Speaker 3: then you're not in a situation where you know you're hungry,

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Speaker 3: you need to get somewhere, you're just going to jump

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Speaker 3: in a cab that you've actually researched and and looked

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Speaker 3: at things. And honestly, when you're in a bassa or

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Speaker 3: a train, you often see things, oh.

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Speaker 2: Good, nobly if you weren't going to say that, I

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Speaker 2: was going to say it. So, Like, the thing about

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Speaker 2: taking public transport when you're traveling overseas is that it's

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Speaker 2: a big part of the adventure. I just never I

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Speaker 2: never understand why people don't want to ride in a

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Speaker 2: train or a subway or bus or whatever. Because the

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Speaker 2: people watching in these things is amazing. You always get

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Speaker 2: to experience something new and exciting and fresh that you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have experienced otherwise. Yeah, I just I think it's

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Speaker 2: an absolutely vital part, especially if you're traveling somewhere interesting,

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Speaker 2: of getting to know the place.

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Speaker 3: Oh totally. Actually you're sitting with locals, you know, you're

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Speaker 3: not just observing things. Yeah, from kind of the outset.

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Speaker 2: It's all the tic, isn't it. It's authentic? Okay? Yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love that. I reckon it's one of the

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Speaker 2: great joys. Actually, I always set myself if I'm in

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Speaker 2: a new city, especially, I always set myself a challenge

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Speaker 2: when I arrived to try and understand the putwork.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's cool. I love that especially I think

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Speaker 3: as a New Zealander when I'm somewhere else and there's

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Speaker 3: great train systems, it's so novel as well, like it's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah it does, yeah, yeah, yeah it is. It

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Speaker 2: does feel well. Although this time next year, hopefully once

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Speaker 2: the central rail links, I thin will feel slightly less novel.

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Speaker 2: What about drink bottles? The reason I mentioned them is

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Speaker 2: that one thing I've noticed recently, and lots of international

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Speaker 2: airports is increasingly airports have a refill your own drink

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Speaker 2: bottle kind of station, even in places I wasn't, you know,

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Speaker 2: like I was in Central America recently and I was

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Speaker 2: surprised to see that there were places you can you know,

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Speaker 2: like an El Salvadore. There are places you can fill

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Speaker 2: up the drink.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's everywhere, yep. So packing kind of like

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Speaker 3: the little travel pits of I have cutlery, like a

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Speaker 3: low clepticle bowl, water bottle. I take a water bottle

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Speaker 3: that has selters and sterilizers. At other places too, that's

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Speaker 3: water to go have. They're right, which have it all

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Speaker 3: throughout India with those, so kind of like a little

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Speaker 3: kitch that when you're going away, you switch off your cliances,

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Speaker 3: you have your transport ready for when you get there.

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Speaker 3: You've got your little kind of reasonal items kit, which,

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Speaker 3: to be honest, I take with me everywhere I go,

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Speaker 3: So just make sure I take that or bulk up

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Speaker 3: with a few more items. And when I am actually

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Speaker 3: in the place too. You're talking about getting you know,

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Speaker 3: amongst the locals of transport, focusing on supporting local with

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Speaker 3: the places you're eating and staying. I think it's probably

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Speaker 3: like one of the biggest things because if you're going somewhere,

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Speaker 3: you're voting with your money like every day, and you

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Speaker 3: can either choose to support all the big chains who

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Speaker 3: like don't really care about you and aren't really part

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Speaker 3: by supporting local and like you know, actually, yeah, voting

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Speaker 3: with your money that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a good message. Hey, thank you. Kate

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Speaker 2: really appreciate it. As always, you can find Kate Hall

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Speaker 2: on social media. She's on all of the good channels,

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Speaker 2: I suppose, just such ethically Kate and her name will

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Speaker 2: pomp right up. Oh here we go, Jack. We've just

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Speaker 2: installed smart switches around the house and cut our daily

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Speaker 2: electricity usage by twelve kilo hours per day. We turned

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Speaker 2: off the microwave print to USB, Chart's TV laptop power supplies.

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Speaker 2: ETCA is Derek, Thank you.

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