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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty on paralleled

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Speaker 2: Results went away from six. Trish Shirson on the huddle

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Speaker 2: with us. From Shirson, Willis pr and Alie Jones read

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Speaker 2: pr Hello you too, Hello, good e Tricia. You seeing

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Speaker 2: the announcement of the Chinese premiere visiting is a big deal.

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Speaker 3: I am seeing this as a big deal. I think

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Speaker 3: it's overall it's good news for New Zealand. I think

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Speaker 3: what it signals is the work that has been done

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Speaker 3: since the election to try and send a signal to

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Speaker 3: the world that New Zealand is open for business. The

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Speaker 3: big push is to get more foreign direct investment, and

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Speaker 3: we know we're a very difficult place to come and

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Speaker 3: get investment. So I think it is a really good thing,

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Speaker 3: and it is put everything else aside about China. They

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Speaker 3: are critical for New Zealand, not just in terms of trade,

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Speaker 3: but in terms of where we sit in the world.

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Speaker 3: So I think it is a really important visit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you reckon? Allie?

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Speaker 4: I agree, but I think it's really interesting. You know,

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Speaker 4: Trisch said everything else aside about China. I think that's

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Speaker 4: the hard bit and I'm not saying that I've got

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Speaker 4: the answers, and I'm not being critical of what you said, Trish,

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Speaker 4: but I think that's always in the background, the human

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Speaker 4: rights Hong Kong to bet and so forth.

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Speaker 5: But look, I agree with you. I think it is

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Speaker 4: I think it's particularly important with what's going on in

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Speaker 5: Two of the Orchist partnership.

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Speaker 4: But look, you've got to have people in the tent

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Speaker 4: to have good diplomatic relations, and this is a start

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Speaker 4: with that.

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Speaker 2: Tris you were speaking about, you know, being a difficult

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Speaker 2: place to invest in. Do you think we will ever

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Speaker 2: see the overseas investors return to the oil and gas industry.

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Speaker 3: Well, the key words I think came from your text

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Speaker 3: and just before we came on air, that it is

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Speaker 3: hard for big overseas investors to trust New Zealand. So

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Speaker 3: you know, even though this government is doing everything it

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Speaker 3: can to get out and hang out the welcome sign.

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Speaker 3: If I were a big overseas investor and I'm making

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Speaker 3: a decision about where to put my capital, I go, well,

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Speaker 3: hang on. New Zealand's got a three year political cycle

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Speaker 3: the main opposition has said, hey, as soon as it

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Speaker 3: got back and it would reverse this. I think it's

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Speaker 3: going to make it really difficult. But you know, for me,

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Speaker 3: this underscores the damage that the labor government has done

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Speaker 3: to our economy and it will reverb for probably decades

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Speaker 3: to come.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean it seems at the moment, Ali, I think

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Speaker 2: Trisha's bang on, and it seems that the only solution

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Speaker 2: that Shane Jones has landed on here is to offer

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Speaker 2: these guys really really really long contracts. Is that enough?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But I did hear him this morning on ZB two

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Speaker 4: and he was talking about you know, I think Mike

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Speaker 5: And I think Shane Jones is right.

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Speaker 4: You've got to give the world enough time to get

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Speaker 4: not get used to, but for them for the government

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Speaker 4: to start to woo them back. And that's probably part

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Speaker 5: I mean, one thing I.

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Speaker 4: Want to say though, is I do hope there's going

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not talking about that one toad or

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Speaker 4: Canterbury coast. That is a place where there's been exploration,

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Speaker 4: are really robust and well resourced emergency plans for spills

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Speaker 4: or accidents, I'm really quite uncomfortable with the proposal.

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Speaker 5: And is anyone thinking about that? Is anyone talking about.

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Speaker 2: Do like, is there anything that we do other than

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Speaker 2: Well, how many boats have we got?

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Speaker 4: I remember talking about this when I was on the

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Speaker 5: So, you know, I'd like to have that conversation.

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Speaker 3: So upset my timer was going through that is such

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Speaker 3: that is that your ring tone?

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Speaker 2: No, it's a timer for something. I was going to say,

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Speaker 2: If that's your ring tone, it would like I would

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Speaker 3: And I don't even know I had set but just

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Speaker 2: No, I know that's points.

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Speaker 3: It's terrible, but just to cover off these points, and

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Speaker 3: it's sort of Germaine after the protests over the weekend.

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Speaker 5: It is not a.

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Speaker 3: Binary choice in New Zealand between progress and investment and

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Speaker 3: the environment. That's point one point two. The major damage

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Speaker 3: that happened with labours, oil and gas band don't forget this.

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Speaker 3: They sprung that on everyone and thought that was smart.

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Speaker 3: They didn't tell the the industry what was happening, and

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Speaker 3: part of why there will be a lack of trust.

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Speaker 2: How long trust do you reckon before we convince the

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Speaker 3: Well, I think this government's trying to do that as

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Speaker 3: quickly as possible. But again it comes back to these

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Speaker 3: be trusted that it's hard for them to trust. We've

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Speaker 3: labor opposition who appear to be moving threatening to do

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Speaker 3: the same. Well not only threatening, to do the same,

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Speaker 3: but they're getting more cooplate but going more in my view,

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Speaker 5: And there's just one thing there though. Look, I agree

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Speaker 4: I'm all for a reasonable balance between protection of the

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Speaker 5: That's absolutely a given.

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Speaker 4: But I do not think this has just got to

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Speaker 4: and it's got to be a balance here. Where's the

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Speaker 2: All Right, we'll take a break and Tricia's just going

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Speaker 2: to take a moment to try to remember what that

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Speaker 2: time always for. Right, we're back with huddle, Trishus and

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Speaker 2: Allie Jones. We've worked out, so Tricia Ovens not on.

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Speaker 3: Well, not to my knowledge, because I can't really work out.

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Speaker 2: Started running a bath and walked away from it.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I can think is perhaps Siri during

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Speaker 3: the day has listened to me saying something and thought, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I have to be with Heather on

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Speaker 5: I thought you were buzzing me off.

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Speaker 4: I thought I was being voted off, but I talked

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Speaker 4: too long and there was a buzzer going.

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Speaker 2: Actually, that's not about idea all introduce that to the show. Listen,

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Speaker 2: Ali on really really serious and very sad subject. How

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Speaker 2: are you feeling about the news that another baby has died,

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Speaker 2: this time a ten month old boy in Tikawitty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look, it's always it's always sad and tragic,

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Speaker 4: and I don't want that to sound flippant.

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Speaker 5: It's just revolting and awful.

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Speaker 4: Well, you don't know what happened, and I don't want

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Speaker 4: to talk about this case or allude to anything that

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Speaker 4: may have happened. In fact, we shouldn't anyway, because it's

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Speaker 4: now being investigated. But I don't think we should ever

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Speaker 4: far too often in this country, and I think we

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Speaker 4: just absolutely tragic when a young child's life is taken

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Speaker 5: And look, as I said, we don't know what happened.

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Speaker 4: I would rather just wait and hear what the Let's

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Speaker 4: hope the police can actually do something with this case too,

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Speaker 5: Is it going to be vexed again? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you think, Trish, that we are getting used to it.

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Speaker 3: Here's a number for you. This in my account will

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Speaker 3: be child baby fifty eight in eight years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So that is a really disgraceful number for New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: And it also makes you realize why we probably have

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Speaker 2: Not scared, not scared and read a story this is.

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Speaker 3: It's a real shame and it's a terrible shame for

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope, so, I hope we all feel it

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Speaker 2: Tim Costley the Wyke and imp has been has been

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Speaker 4: He's not doing anything wrong if you look at what

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Speaker 4: it's let's just and stuck us in the village green

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Speaker 4: On through tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I noticed your you're saying us you're part of the collective,

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Speaker 2: aren't you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I am, and it is.

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Speaker 4: We're constantly being accused of earning too much or whatever.

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Speaker 4: And it's a bloody difficult job and it takes long hours.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think it's reasonable.

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Speaker 4: For someone or for people to expect someone like this

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Speaker 5: For God's sake, let's been reasonable.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Trisha?

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Speaker 3: I think it's fair that he's doing this. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: everyone goes, oh, it's only thirty minutes. Well, you know,

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Speaker 3: you just don't know at that time of.

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Speaker 2: Night, it's not thirty minutes. No, it's much longer. I

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Speaker 2: like forty five.

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Speaker 3: I totally, I totally agree. You know, when Rodney Hyde

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Speaker 3: And I think that is a is a very good thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I pick up on Allie's point to go, we

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Speaker 2: To write. Hey, very quick question for you, Alie. If

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Speaker 2: somebody calls you out of the blue and they've not

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Speaker 2: Do you get cross? Yes?

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Speaker 5: I do? I do.

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Speaker 2: I need to know why.

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Speaker 5: Someone's calling me. I mean it depends who it is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there will you.

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Speaker 4: Know if one of my kids calls me at an

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Speaker 5: What the hell are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm busy.

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Speaker 5: So yes, it does make me a bit annoyed.

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Speaker 3: Yepsh doesn't worry me. I don't ever answer a number

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Speaker 3: see the kids' names come up, well, you know, sometimes.

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Speaker 2: It's the core.

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Speaker 3: You'll you'll manage the call depending on what no, I'm

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Speaker 3: kidding no, or my husband you know again, might triage those,

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Speaker 3: But normally I find it quite useful if people want

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, thank you guys, I appreciate it.

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